Episode 5219: Where Does The Market Say The Economy Is Going With The Iran Conflict
In a hypothetical March 2026 scenario, Donald Trump leads a prolonged "peace mission" against Iran, executing over 16 days of airstrikes that dismantle drone factories and naval vessels in the Strait of Hormuz. While guests like Stephen K. Bannon frame this as eliminating an illegitimate regime, critics warn that deindustrializing a Texas-sized nation risks long-term instability and could push oil prices to $78 per barrel by October. The discussion contrasts these Middle East escalations with strategic threats from China and Russia, ultimately suggesting that energy dominance strategies, potentially led by Harold Hamm, are critical for navigating this volatile geopolitical landscape. [Automatically generated summary]
For around 15 years, many American leaders, including all three presidents in that period, have believed that the country was too deeply entangled in trying to reorder the societies of the Middle East.
They felt the more pressing challenges were rebuilding America's industrial base at home and confronting the rise of China.
Yet, here America is, once again, fighting a war to reorder a society in the greater Middle East.
And like Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya, this seems unlikely to turn out quite as its proponents hoped.
Lisa, you heard in the earlier segment, we were talking about how Israel says, we're three weeks in, but we have three weeks to go.
What that means is not only will they totally destroy Iran's military capacity, they're destroying the factories where weapons are produced, they're also destroying Hezbollah, root and branch.
What is the Middle East going to look like, and how are the Arabs going to view Israel, countries like Saudi Arabia at this moment?
Well, look, I think one of the things that the region had been characterized was a sort of balancing between Iran and Israel from the point of view of the Arab countries.
In the absence of Iran, Iran decimated in the way the Israelis say that they're going to be able to do.
Then you have an Israeli hegemony in the region, which isn't, I think, exactly what people calculated.
Even the Gulf countries, even the Abraham Accords members didn't particularly see the region as having only one hegemonic power or aspiring hegemonic power.
So I think it's going to be very complicated because, you know, when you have Israeli officials saying they're going to do in southern Lebanon what they did in Gaza, when the guns stop, if there's that kind of devastation also in Lebanon, which is in a sense not a combatant, I think there's going to be a very, you know, a sort of heart-rending conversation within the Arab world about where they want to position themselves.
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See what happens.
Can you see why you're saying 5,000 Marines and tailors?
For 16 days, we've delivered overwhelming firepower deep into Iran.
This past Friday, U.S. forces executed a large-scale precision strike on Karg Island, destroying more than 90 Iranian military targets, including storage bunkers for naval mines and missiles, and other military infrastructure.
To date, our Air Force, Navy, and Marine Corps aviators have collectively flown more than 6,000 combat flights, demonstrating the unmatched capability of America's joint force as we maintain air superiority over Iranian skies.
We continue to remain centered on our military objectives.
These are well-defined and include eliminating Iran's ballistic missiles, drones, and naval threats.
It's one thing to defend by striking launchers and intercepting missiles and drones, but it's another thing to eliminate the wider manufacturing apparatus behind them.
And we are doing that today.
We've talked about it in concept.
Here's what it looks like in reality.
Let me show you for the first time a few examples of how we are dismantling Iran's defense industrial base, which will prevent threats to the region into the future.
Here you see a photo from March 1st of a naval drone storage facility located near the Strait of Hormuz.
This is the same location, eight days later, completely destroyed.
Next, here's a photo taken of an attack drone production factory in Tehran on March 5th.
Here's that same factory six days later after a devastating barrage of U.S. airstrikes.
And finally, the Yazdi Military Depot, pictured here last month.
These eight buildings are part of the IRGC's missile command infrastructure and are used to produce light and heavyweight torpedoes.
Now, here's that same military depot just last week, or what's left of it.
U.S. and partner strikes are doing exactly what they are intended to do, deliver on very clear military objectives to eliminate Iran's ability to project power against Americans and against its neighbors.
I watched as they roll all the way to Beirut in 1982 and live to regret it deeply for several decades.
An essayist who writes for the Atlantic magazine last weekend wrote an essay on victory disease, the ways in which leaders and armies can become so stoked by one victory that they keep going beyond the limits of good sense.
Certainly Donald Trump had victory disease after his stunning success in Venezuela.
I think the Israelis, after the amazing successes of the last two years against Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, have thought they just have to keep going, go all the way.
Lebanon has been a real quagmire for Israel.
And I would expect that in the next few days, you'll hear growing criticism of the idea of a big ground invasion of Lebanon again, because people have seen where that leads.
Why does it happen?
It happens because leaders get intoxicated by their own power.
The primary indispensable role of the United States is to anchor the global system against the revisionist ambitions of Beijing and Moscow.
China is not getting bogged down in Middle Eastern quagmires.
It is relentlessly investing in artificial intelligence, quantum computing, solar and wind power, batteries and robots, the technologies that will determine the balance of global power.
Russia remains fiercely committed to disrupting the European security architecture and undermining Western democracies through hybrid political military warfare that has proved hard to detect and even harder to defeat.
But while Moscow and Beijing challenge the basic architecture of America's world order, Washington is preparing once again to spend blood and treasure policing the Middle East and trying to pick the leaders of one of its countries.
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But it's enough, but it's enough to distort probably the most important shipping point in the world.
And I don't want to say that the strait is, quote, closed.
I don't like that term, but the reality is shipping traffic has fallen off a cliff.
It's critical for oil, for gas, for fertilizers, helium, for semiconductors.
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Is there a plan to get that fully, I don't want to say reopen, there was a tanker that ran through today, fully operational and safe for all global shipping?
But ultimately, we have to reopen the Strait of Hormuz to ensure stability in the market.
That is not a simple task.
So we're working with all of our allies, including our European partners, to bring together a viable collective plan that can restore freedom of navigation in the region as quickly as possible.
We were the number one producer anywhere in the world times by double, at least double.
Now I think it's much higher than that.
But we do it.
It's almost like we do it for Happen.
And we also do it for some very good allies that we have in the Midwest.
Our Commander-in-Chief, Donald Trump, who's facing the same kind of ugly internal forces as Roosevelt did, who's facing the same kind of enemy that Jefferson did and Madison did.
It's Monday, 16 March, in the year of our Lord 2026.
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Also, our magnificent team hit the war room.
That was a perfect curation of what's happened in the last 24 hours, beautifully cut and wedged in.
And I believe that Lincoln and Washington and Madison and Jefferson would have focused on the real threat to the United States coming from the streets of New York with Mandami and what's happening in Texas with this Islamic takeover and the 20 million illegal aliens,
Mark Levin, Tel Aviv Levin, that we have here in the United States that now the Republican pollsters think, oh my gosh, Mr. President, sending him fake polls that you can never mention mass deportations again, the fake polls are showing him to turn down, shut down the Mahab movement.
So now that we are promoters of Roundup of every significant MAGA policy to now focus on the Middle East.
And like I said, to the National Conservative Convention in June before the 12-day war, the Middle East is a sideshow to the central problems of the United States of America, and Israel is a sideshow to a sideshow.
And of course, Farid Zakara, sound like Captain James Finnell, keep the main thing the main thing.
Okay, here's what we're going to do.
And programming change already.
The commander-in-chief of the American military forces in the president of the United States has just announced on True Social that he is holding a press conference right before his board meeting at the Kennedy Center, the Trump Kennedy Center.
That board meeting is supposed to start at 1145-12.
We assume the president may hold this press conference sometime in the 11 o'clock hour.
So we're going to be packed today already.
We're going to start with oil.
We've got Eric Bowling and Rob Lockwood to walk us through it.
Two great briefings today.
We'll put up in its entirety on our streaming.
Scott Besson on CNBC, our own former contributor and Secretary of the Treasury, also Admiral Cooper and CENTCOM.
Two really great briefings.
We've got Pozzo and Captain James Finnell to break it all down for us.
The first hour is going to be on fire.
Short commercial break.
Natasha Owens will take us out.
We'll be back in a moment.
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When you took your side and the war you cry came to song for justice.
You're going to hit hundreds of millions of barrels over a three-week situation.
It's been, in essence, shut.
The idea of insuring these boats with Lloyds of London passage is also not going to work because there's no captain worth his salt that's going to risk the lives of 200 crew members to put it through there just because they have insurance.
If the thing blows up, their families will be taken care of.
No, we're not in that day and age.
Here's my point.
I want Trump to win.
I want us to win in the midterms.
My biggest problem with what's going on right now, Steve, is it wasn't one and done.
didn't get in there and get the hell out, which I thought we should have, we could have, because this is now pushing a $4 gallon of gasoline within the next, I would say, 20, 30 days national.
I just pointed out, I just looked at October delivery for crude oil just right now, $78 a barrel today.
That means the market believes in October, it'll be at least the $78 barrel in October, which translates to about $375 a gallon.
However, we're coming down from likely a $4 per gallon of gasoline.
The market, you're right, Steve.
So in late December, early January, we were about $55 a barrel.
It started to move up because there was an anticipation of a conflict in the Middle East.
The oil market is very smart, very efficient, very smart.
And it predicts and it plans for conflicts.
It plans for supply shocks.
It also plans for oversupply.
And so you see, if it were a very temporary blip, let's call it believed in the oil market, you would see $100 on the spot price, which is traded today, $95 today, but it got to $103 last night.
So $100 a barrel today, and you'd see $60 or $65 in October, November, and December, because they would believe that oil prices are coming down.
They believe it's going to remain certainly elevated from where we started from, maybe a little less than where we are today, because we're not fixing the problem.
I want you to stick around for Pasovic and Captain Finnell.
I want to bring in Rob Lockwood, one of the original gangsters of kind of the mega movement.
Rob, both Republican strategists, media expert, you've got a piece up that I find very intriguing.
You're saying part of the solution to get back to that $50 barrel, $55 barrel, full spectrum energy dominance may be in the appointment of the senator from Oklahoma.
And you're strongly recommending Harold Hamm.
Tell our audience who is Harold Ham and why is he so important to the current environment, sir?
So, Steve, as outlined by Eric, we live in a complex world and the oil and energy markets are complex.
Harold Hamm, if Donald Trump is the CEO and the architect of America's national energy dominance strategy, which he is, Harold Ham is the intellectual godfather and an operator who helped usher in an American energy renaissance and American energy independence before President Trump even took office.
So he was a guy who grew up in absolute poverty, one of 13 kids, sharecropper family in Oklahoma.
They had no water on the farm on which they lived.
He had no formal education, no political connections, no industry connections, who built a Titan company called Continental Resources.
And Harold Hamm is a huge supporter of President Trump's, and he has been for a long time.
And I wrote this piece because right now in Oklahoma, with the, I think, forthcoming appointment and confirmation of Senator Mullen to head DHS, there's going to be an opening.
And this opening is a temporary seat, seven or eight months until the November election is certified.
This is political crunch time as we're seeing with the world of geopolitical affairs, but also because it's an election year with the midterms.
We have to win because if we don't, the Democrats will throw all the sand in the gears of all of the momentum that President Trump has built.
And so my thought is Harold Hamm is like a, I'm a Patriots fan.
I apologize to your audience who hates them, but he is the Tom Brady of modern American energy.
And this is political crunch time.
And Governor Kevin Stitt has the opportunity to put an energy icon into the Senate who can work with Republican caucus members to message how that energy is the foundation of prosperity and peace abroad.
And he could even tutor privately some Democrats who may not be able to campaign on that issue, but there are some who do privately understand the need for increased baseload power, the need for President Trump's energy dominance agenda to continue.
And so for me, it's a no-brainer.
Put this guy in the Senate for seven to eight months.
He can help President Trump save America.
He can help the Republicans win in the midterms and then have two more years of furthering the agenda that's going to bring America back to true greatness.
So that's the thesis of the piece and who Harold Hamm is.
We're going to get to some of the military, but I want you to hang on for a second.
Harold Hamm is also, I mean, he was with us early on.
This guy is our original MAGA and was with President Trump early on.
He's also President Trump's kind of mentor about the whole theory of the case of full spectrum energy dominance.
And you've seen Harold Hamm have a voice in the situation in Venezuela.
I mean, I don't think you could get a more important ally of President Trump and platform in the Senate between now and election day and also get some minds right over there and even in the administration about the importance of full spectrum energy dominance.
Harold Hamm, I would say, is original gangster when it comes to that.
And he certainly is an incredible throwback to the wildcatters of the mythical or the original foundational myth of our oil industry.
That's Ham goes back to that and has that kind of, that's the cut of his gym.
Anyway, short commercial break.
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President said he's going to have an impromptu press conference probably around 11 o'clock.
There's obviously a lot to talk about and the media is baying like a pack of jackals after him.
So it'll be quite interesting.
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Well, Steve, as I said yesterday here on the program, and I would say as well, President Trump clearly at a crossroads in this situation.
You've got the 31st MEU, which is now steaming its way, I'm told, through the Straits of Malacca right about now coming up.
They were in operations in and around the Philippines, South China Sea area.
They're headed up through the Strait of Malacca.
They are steaming along, picking up speed and heading over to the Persian Gulf, which obviously allows the president for a range of optionality, as it's called in military defense circles these days, along with the different pieces of the puzzle that he has.
And I was on media earlier this morning, and I would say here again, as well as to the war room, that I have seen a very strange contention from the Wall Street Journal and others saying that boots on the ground are necessary to take Karg Island.
And that's one of the most ridiculous things that I've heard.
You don't need to take this territory to be able to neutralize it, because if you just simply want to neutralize Karg Island, you could use cyber warfare very easily to shut down offload and onload operations.
Anything with the computer could be fried.
And of course, the United States Navy has been neutralizing piers for centuries at this point.
In fact, the United States Navy SEALs were designed for that specific purpose.
If you go back to the UDT teams, and so this is something that the Navy is able to do.
You can take out the pier.
You don't have to touch any of the fuel supplies, the depots, the pipelines, any of it.
You just hit the pier.
It's really simple.
But I think, Steve, that what's going on now is that there are people who are deeply and seriously agitating, including Wall Street Journal, for the president to put boots on the ground because they realize that once he has done so, the mission creep will be so far in that this thing could explode into a full-fledged war.
And they deeply want that.
And that's what I said here last week: that Lindsey Graham was certainly part of that push, gesture gooning up and down for a wider, full-scale war with Iran.
So on the Sunday show lineup on Friday and all the Sunday shows, Lady Lindsay was not included.
Now, on the Saturday update, he was included in a couple, I think, Meet the Press and a couple others.
My understanding, he was not on the Sunday shows yesterday as a surrogate.
They may be trying to dial down.
I think they're buying your theory of gesture gooning.
But hang on for a second, Jack.
Let's bring in Captain Finnell.
Captain Finnell, CENTCOM Admiral Cooper went through another methodical briefing today of what the still the focus of CENTCOM on the military objectives, also the industrial base.
The Israelis have told us they've got 6,000 more targets, at least two or three weeks, maybe four weeks of still intense bombing, and every day is pretty intense.
In fact, you could say over the last, at least through Saturday night, those three or four nights in a row increased in intensity every night.
Your assessment of CENTCOM and then the broader military objectives here, sir.
Well, Steve, I agree with Admiral Cooper's statement that Iranian military capability is declining while U.S. military capability is increasing.
And the numbers that he put out on his briefing this morning are very clear that we are really, really pounding them every day for 16 days.
And I would like to give an example because I heard Eric Bowling's angst, and I understand it about the straight and the concern that everyone has about this being shut down.
But one just little note from the UK's Maritime Trade Office, they have what they call a Joint Maritime Information Center, and they've been putting out reports every day of the conflict.
And since the conflict has started, they pointed out in their daily reports, number 15 was released last night, that there has been no Iranian mines detected in the Persian Gulf and in the Strait of Hormuz.
And people could say, well, that's not verified, or they can go down that tangent.
But let's just take that independent agency who has clearly no skin in the game to exaggerate.
They have stated that now for 15 days.
Why is that?
And I would say that is a reflection of the targeting plan that CENTCOM put together and that they outlined every day since this conflict has been going on.
Take out the missiles, take out the missile launchers, take out the missile production factories, which they are now heavily doing in the last 24, 48 hours, but also this Navy piece.
And when we say Navy, we just think of ships floating.
But it wasn't just ships floating.
It was those bases and those storage facilities for torpedoes, mines, drones, ammunition, the boats themselves that go ashore, the small fast boats.
So we have been decimating that.
And a reflection of that success has been that there hasn't been one ship that's hit a mine.
There's been no detected mines in and around the strait in this last 16 days.
And I remind people, the number one weapon that has damaged more U.S. Navy warships since World War II is the mine.
So we have actually been very successful in that regard.
And so I think what we should, and I know it's very hard for people to do that, I haven't been in the military, but when you listen to the former commanders of NAVCENT, Fifth Fleet, like Admiral Donegan, who's on ABC this Sunday, we have known about this.
We have planned for this, and we are going through it very systematically.
And I agree with Jack, we don't have to put boots on the ground on Carg Island to take out their capacity to produce oil or to at least disseminate the oil.
And last night, there was overhead imagery, commercial imagery, that showed three maritime tankers from Iran sitting at Carg Island being loaded up with fuel.
At some point, that will stop.
And that's the president's time to choose to do that.
And I'm not the president.
I'm not sure exactly when he'll do that.
But at some point, if this doesn't ratchet back, he'll have another ladder, a rung on the ladder to take up in the escalation, at least in terms of putting pressure on the regime to capitulate.
And we do not have to be boots on the ground.
We do not have to have an endless war.
We can do this if we just stay the helm or steady on the helm and keep proceeding as we have.
And the Tripoli coming through the Strait of Malacca, she'll probably pick up two littoral combat system, littoral combat ships with mine warfare packages, and they'll escort them out to the Gulf should we have to use even mine sweepers.
But there is another plan that we can use, which is right now we're going to start rolling in A-10 Warthogs, the Thunderbolts, and with those, along with F-18s, F-15s,
and F-16s with this advanced precision kill weapon system that the Ukrainians have been using to shoot down drones in the Ukraine, these $25,000 missiles can be used and they're being brought out to the theater to be able to take down any kind of unmanned surface vessel or any kind of drone.
So we have the capacity to start really making it apparent to the shipping community that it is going to be safe.
Well, those wars actually started in 81, but we didn't actually start doing the escort program until that, like you said, 87-88.
And during that whole period, those seven, eight years, there were over 450 ships that were struck, attacked, or struck by Iranian and Iraqis during that period.
55 of these ships actually sank during that time period.
And what we did in Operation Fran Mantis is that we started escorting groups of ships with our destroyers and frigates.
We used to have a lot of frigates then because it was a 600 ship Navy.
Today we only have a 300 ship Navy, but we have much greater capabilities on our ships with our Aegis radar systems.
So we have these Aegis-equipped destroyers, the Arleigh Burke class, and those ships.
And most of the estimates I've heard from former flags, admirals, have said somewhere around a dozen or a little over, a little under.
If we had a dozen of those operating into the strait, escorting groups of tankers, we could start ratcheting these numbers up from the one, two, three, or four that happened a couple of days ago up to in the 50s or 60s in short order.
But before we start putting a U.S. Navy warship in those waters off that coast, CENTCOM is going to want to know and be absolutely certain that we don't bring a destroyer in there and have it take a hit from something that the Iranians have.
And all of a sudden, now we're talking about how the United States Navy lost a warship and killed 300 sailors.
That's not what we want.
So they're going to make sure that they rub everything out.
And the other way that you can do this, like I said, with the mines and these other systems that the Iranians have, is what we have is persistent ISR.
We have satellites, we have airborne unmanned ISR platforms, we have manned platforms, we have dirgibles that are actually afloat that can look at the state.
The Japanese ambassador is coming to the White House this afternoon.
The prime minister is coming for a huge meeting and dinner on Thursday.
Talk to me.
President Trump actually made a call to arms, says he needs all the allies, NATO, and kind of implied, hey, if you're not there, maybe we're not going to be there.
Called for NATO.
He called for the Chinese Communist Party to send the People's Liberation Navy.
We got 60 seconds, sir.
I'm going to keep you around.
Give me 30 seconds on President Trump's calling for all the navies of the world to come and keep the Strait of Hormuz open.
I might add that I think the Filipinos, I think the Philippine government also told the Chinese Communist Party today that the South China Sea is not an internal sea of China.
There's a lunch for the Kennedy Center board or Trump Kennedy Center board.
It's going to take place around noon.
President says he's going to do a press conference beforehand.
I think that's in the East Room.
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Well, Steve, certainly there's a lot to be brought to bear here.
Now, the idea that NATO is going to send their ships in, it's going to be interesting.
We'll have to see.
Also, real questions about Israel.
Israel also has a Navy as well, and yet we haven't heard any calls, I think, for the Israeli Navy to get involved in this as well.
They are striking Iran with their air power, certainly, right now, but they do have naval assets that could be brought to bear.
And so, of course, if Israel wants to send their naval assets to the Strait of Hormuz, that could also be an option here for greater forces in that region.
And certainly, and by the way, there's also one other option, of course, that the United States also has not taken, and that's our own use of asymmetric warfare against Iranian tankers that we've seen in the past.
So, we have seen the seizing of tankers by whether it's Venezuela-bound, whether it's these Venezuela flag tankers.
If the United States Navy were to be able to start conducting those interdiction-style operations that we saw with the Venezuelan sanctions, then you wouldn't necessarily need to close the Strait of Hormuz at all.
You'd be able to affect Iran in the same exact way.
Now, again, of course, this also increases the level of escalation, but doesn't necessarily require boots on the ground.
And again, Steve, I'm just talking about the wide variety of options, the plethora of options that the president has at his fingertips here that, again, totally at sea or using air power tech technology or capabilities, do not require boots on the ground.
Asymmetric, number one, go to Dubai and seize the pirates.
That's the pirate cove of the Middle East, just like Tortuga was against the British Empire in the Caribbean.
They should seize all the financial assets of Iran.
The Persians all do it.
Finn Arabs allow them to do it because they're making huge coin off that.
They ought to seize that immediately.
We also ought to put sanctions on any country trading with Iran financially to seize it.
And I think you keep it open, but I don't know why you're not seizing any oil coming out of there that is being traded and cash is going to the Iranians.
I don't get it.
I don't get how you put people in harm's way and you'd like to choke them down, cut their cash off.
When Besson started destroying the what's the currency, the real back in January, you had millions of people take to the streets.
Choke them out.
They shouldn't get a penny.
They shouldn't get a penny from it, including the Chinese Communist Party.
Of course, we're going to be up human events daily every day.
If you missed that, we've got our sit reps that come out daily in terms of the email.
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We're going to be up there as well.
And today, we're also going to be issuing a response because, Steve, I didn't know there's a little TV show that goes on that's been going on for a while called the Oscars, the Academy Awards, where Conan O'Brien decided to call out my turning point halftime show last night.
So, of course, we'll be responding to his very poorly watched, you know, little shindig last night and maybe give him a little more rating because he really needs it.
Nobody watched it, but I did see the clip of the joke.
Good luck on that.
Rob Lockwood.
I think Harold Hamm will be, I think Harold Hammo will be saying, let's rev up Venezuela and let's get rolling in Guiana in the Gulf of America and in Texas.
We got 10X.
The president said yesterday, we got 10 times the natural gas and oil resources here in this part of the world that they got in the Middle East.
And we can certainly put the Middle East on the back burner.
I want people to go read your article one more time.
Why should Harold Ham be in the United States Senate for the next eight months?
And you're behind the shale revolution, Energy Renaissance in America.
He led the crusade to legalize the sale of energy exports in America in 2015.
That set the table when President Trump came in and had tremendous success.
You were a key part of that in his first term, which allowed America to become truly energy independent.
The disastrous Biden years set us back.
But in the first year of the Trump administration, we were able to do things like get 6,000 permits approved for drilling.
President Trump opened the Gulf of America back open for business.
With the stroke of a pen, he led to 100,000 barrels more per day in immediate exploration.
And they're already holding leases for new energy exploration rigs down in the Gulf of America right now, generating hundreds of millions of dollars of proceeds already.
But it ensures an America energy-dominant future if we hold the Senate, if we hold the House with President Trump's leadership.
And there's no better person in the entire world to fill that vacant Senate seat than Harold Hamm.
So you put Harold Hamm in the Senate, you let him work with President Trump hand in hand for the next seven months.