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Farms and Family Legacy
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| Islamic jihadis uploading against you. | ||
| Why in the hell you think they're in Houston and the north of Dallas? | ||
| They are working together to overthrow Western civilization. | ||
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Sharia compounds, which are areas governed by religious rules. | |
| We know who you are. | ||
| We know what you are. | ||
| And we know what you're trying to accomplish. | ||
| And it is not going to happen in the jewel of the crown of the union of this republic. | ||
| We purge any attempt to impose Sharia law in Texas. | ||
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The honor's coming. | |
| They are already here. | ||
| You are not here properly, and you're going to leave. | ||
| On the 3rd of March, Sharia law goes on the ballot in the state of Texas. | ||
| The United States Constitution and Sharia are fundamentally at odds with one another. | ||
| We're going to tell them, take your Sharia law and shove it. | ||
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Islam will never dominate the United States. | |
| And by the grace of God, it will not dominate Technic! | ||
| As Texas goes, so goes the nation. | ||
| As the nation goes, so goes the world. | ||
| Are you prepared to fight for this state? | ||
| Are you prepared to fight for your country? | ||
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War Room, Texas. | |
| Your host, Stephen K. Bannon, starts right now. | ||
| It's Thursday, 5 February in the year of our Lord 2026. | ||
| We're very honored to have Sid Miller, the Commissioner of Agriculture, in Texas. | ||
| Here was our guest for the first half of the show. | ||
| Sid, I first met you right after our Come From Behind victory in 2016 down in Mar-a-Lago. | ||
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That's right. | |
| Ryan's previous night called you down. | ||
| What was that meeting about? | ||
| Well, I'd been called to Mar-a-Largo for an interview, and you're pretty good to interview. | ||
| You grill hard, man. | ||
| I was considered for Secretary of Agriculture, cabinet position. | ||
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Yes, sir. | |
| In fact, you were the cover of it, it turned out. | ||
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Sonny Perdue got it. | |
| But later on, correct me if I'm wrong, I think you were approached a year or two later to say, hey, look, for the second term, the president wanted you as to be Secretary of Agriculture. | ||
| Sonny, Governor Perdue was going to move on. | ||
| They actually talked to you about coming in as a deputy, getting the Senate confirmed, so you go through the FBI checks, et cetera, and then you would fleet up to agriculture secretary. | ||
| We were going in as deputy secretary. | ||
| The deputy had resigned. | ||
| It was towards the end of the administration. | ||
| And then after the election, Sonny wasn't going to do another term, and then they'd slide me in from deputy into the secretary's position. | ||
| Let's go back to that time. | ||
| What was it that you felt with a populist nationalist outsider like Trump coming in, breaking every rule in the traditional Republican Party and really in politics? | ||
| At the time, your pitch about being Secretary of Agriculture, what did you think the country had to do as far as agriculture goes? | ||
| Because right now, we're in a situation, I think we're doing a $14 billion kind of bailout of farmers, right, because of the tariff situation. | ||
| What was your recommendation at the time that we should do? | ||
| Well, you know, I was a Trump supporter early on, the first statewide elect official in Texas. | ||
| I remember backing, you know, that was big back then. | ||
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Yeah, well, you know what? | |
| I was running Breitbart at the time when we had two Texans running. | ||
| You know, we had Rick Perry and Ted Cruz. | ||
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Ted Cruz. | |
| So why did you decide to back Trump back then? | ||
| There's no doubt in my mind. | ||
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This is the man. | |
| Well, you know, he's bold. | ||
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He's independent. | |
| No one owns him. | ||
| You know, I could tell he loves America. | ||
| And then that day, you know, you told me that he loves the family farm. | ||
| And that, you know, that was all I needed to hear. | ||
| He was for the family farm. | ||
| And that's my people, man. | ||
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That's us. | |
| That's who I represent. | ||
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So. | |
| Hey, I brought you this challenge. | ||
| Thanks so much. | ||
| Keep it with you because if you don't have it next time, you have to buy the drinks. | ||
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We won't want to do that. | |
| Tell me about family farms. | ||
| Where do you think we are right now? | ||
| We got Brooks Run. | ||
| We have a Texan as Secretary of Agriculture right now. | ||
| Of course, Brooks started the America First Policy Institute. | ||
| Where do you think we are in the country overall, not just Texas, with family farms? | ||
| Well, the family farms are still the heartbeat of rural America. | ||
| 95%, this is a shock you. | ||
| 95% of the farms in America are family farms. | ||
| Everybody thinks it's big corporate farms. | ||
| And that would be defined as what? | ||
| Yeah, you know, run by the families. | ||
| Some of them are incorporated for legal reasons, but to be able to pass down and pass down and tax reasons, things like that. | ||
| But yeah, 95% are family farms. | ||
| And a lot of them are passed on from generation to generation to generation. | ||
| But these are the ones that are under siege the most, right? | ||
| In fact, the bailout is really trying to make sure we're not bailing out agribusiness, but we're bailing out family farms. | ||
| So what pressures are they under today? | ||
| Well, we've got, and the pressures are a lot less. | ||
| They're getting better and better. | ||
| And they're fixing to get really, really good. | ||
| The tariffs, and Trump said this in the first administration, he reminded him this time, you know, it's going to get a little rough, but I'm going to take care of you. | ||
| I'll take this tariff money and I'll prop you up. | ||
| You stay with me. | ||
| And now we're seeing the results of that. | ||
| You know, China just bought a bunch of soybeans. | ||
| They're talking about buying some more. | ||
| The prices are coming up. | ||
| We're going to get good prices for our commodities. | ||
| When Trump left that first administration, farmers were making more money than they'd ever made. | ||
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It was good. | |
| At the end of the year 19 before the pandemic. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| He was. | ||
| Even during the pandemic, what were those policies and what were those policies then that contributed to farms and particularly family farms doing well? | ||
| Well, Trump's aggressive trade policies is what put us in the black. | ||
| He found us new markets. | ||
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He increased our markets. | |
| He got commitments to buy our products. | ||
| We were, you know, agriculture exports went through the roof and we owned the agriculture exports around the world, thanks to Donald Trump. | ||
| Do you feel the second term, the second administration, he's just as focused? | ||
| He gave a talk the other day about this very topic about how he loves the farmers. | ||
| The farmers already supported him. | ||
| I know the media is trying to make a big deal about his tariff policies today being even more aggressive from Liberation Day. | ||
| Do you feel that his policies so far have helped, particularly not just agribusiness, but the family farmer? | ||
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Oh, absolutely. | |
| You know, that first term, it took like two years for this to get to this point. | ||
| We're there in about 12 months, 14 months. | ||
| We're going to tip over a lot sooner. | ||
| Farmers are going to make a lot more money a lot quicker because those tariffs are kicking in. | ||
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They're working. | |
| We had the first time he had like two, maybe three bailouts. | ||
| We had one this time is all it's going to take. | ||
| So farmers are ready to make some money. | ||
| Biden runt the agriculture industry. | ||
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What did he do? | |
| What specifically, in your mind, did Biden do to hurt agriculture? | ||
| He didn't make one trade agreement, none, didn't sign one contract. | ||
| So not only did we not find new markets for our agriculture producers, we didn't even keep the customers we had. | ||
| The Foreign Agriculture Service and USDA, they were all focused on the Green New Deal, climate change, LBGTQ, DEI, you know, all this. | ||
| Things not related to the business actually. | ||
| No, their deal is to, you know, protect and promote agriculture. | ||
| So first time in my lifetime, you know, America's always been the breadbasket of the world. | ||
| We grow enough for ourselves and feed a lot of the rest of the world. | ||
| Agriculture has always been one of our top exports. | ||
| Biden left us with a $50 billion agriculture trade deficit. | ||
| We are buying $50 billion more food than we're selling. | ||
| That means we are dependent on foreign nations to feed us. | ||
| When we're dependent on somebody else to feed us, that's when they can have full power over America. | ||
| That's the most dangerous situation I think we've ever been in. | ||
| So we're working hard to turn that around. | ||
| My office, I have 45 international trade missions set up in the next 12 months. | ||
| 45 that you're going out, they're coming to you, or are you going to go? | ||
| Some of them are inbound, most of them are most of them are outbound. | ||
| I just got a team back from Dubai, one back from Oman, and one back from Mexico. | ||
| This is to be basically a sales agent for the Department of Texas agricultural products. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| We take companies with us. | ||
| We take on those trips about 15 to 20 companies. | ||
| You're the tip of the spear of this issue with Mexico with illegal alien labor, but also Mexico is our biggest trade partner in agriculture. | ||
| Walk us through what President Trump has done to make sure that the American farmer is put first versus the, because there's a ton of product comes in from Mexico. | ||
| And quite frankly, on the affordability issue, you need some of that, correct? | ||
| Well, yes. | ||
| The biggest thing, this is huge. | ||
| For Texans, it is. | ||
| We got our water bill paid. | ||
| They're paying the greed yesterday. | ||
| We have a 1944 water treaty. | ||
| We share the Rio Grande and share the water in it. | ||
| Well, Mexico has dammed up all the tributaries and rivers that flow into it and holding back the water and won't pay their part. | ||
| So we lost our sugarcane industry in Texas. | ||
| Last plant closed, not enough water. | ||
| We're losing our citrus industry. | ||
| That's our winter garden area where we grow our winter vegetables and they couldn't plant a crop, no water. | ||
| So Trump put the pressure on them. | ||
| They announced yesterday that they were going to pay the next five years, you know, 350,000 cubic feet every year. | ||
| And they're going to catch up and get current with the water that they owe us. | ||
| So that's huge for Texas. | ||
| Is that because, maybe get you over in the shuttle a bit more? | ||
| Is that because of pressure President Trump put on them? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| There's no other reason to that. | ||
| You know, earlier I went up and met with our friend Stephen Miller. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And he said, this is, you know, back earlier. | ||
| And he said, oh, I didn't know about this. | ||
| He said, let me just, I'll get to Trump. | ||
| Why didn't somebody tell me? | ||
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I said, well, you know, there was. | |
| That's what you got used to. | ||
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And he said, no. | |
| I said, and so about two days later, Trump announced, look, Mexico, if you don't pay your water, you're not getting your water from the Colorado River. | ||
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We'll just hold your water. | |
| And they paid a little bit, but it didn't quite get there. | ||
| And then after that, he said, you know, you need to pay that water bill. | ||
| And if it's not paid by this date, we're going to put an extra 5% tariff across the board on Mexico. | ||
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You talk about water. | |
| And that got them to the table. | ||
| What's the tension inside of Texas of, because Texas has been principally an agriculture, real estate, oilfield services. | ||
| Now you got tech, big tech. | ||
| And the data centers, you know, Governor DeSantis just said this morning, no data centers in Florida at all. | ||
| He says, I'm not going to have data cents come down here, drive up the price of electricity for consumers, plus start taking our water, which we don't have that much of, and all to, you know, get these kids online and have these chatbots talking suicide to them. | ||
| Texas is at the cutting edge of tech. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| Austin, Yahoo's got Elon Musk. | ||
| But with tech comes data centers. | ||
| And with data centers comes not just this whole set of the Texas grid and agro, but it is the biggest source of drainage of water in the country, particularly the aquifers of Texas. | ||
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Data Centers and Energy Stress
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| What's going to happen here? | ||
| Well, it's too late to stop them. | ||
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They're here. | |
| We've got over 400 of them already. | ||
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400 data centers. | |
| Yeah, and there's no oversight. | ||
| There's no guardrails. | ||
| There's no organization. | ||
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I want people to hear this. | |
| They're just running wild. | ||
| They're just running wild. | ||
| They set up our counties have no ordinance-making authority. | ||
| So they can just do whatever. | ||
| So I get so many complaints. | ||
| They're building on our very most fertile farmland, taking up our, you know, once you pave over that farmland, it's gone. | ||
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I mean, you don't have it. | |
| And they're using a lot of water and electricity and driving up electric rates. | ||
| So no one's doing anything. | ||
| And I don't like regulation. | ||
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I like incentives. | |
| You know, encourage people to do the right thing. | ||
| So I came up with this idea called agriculture freedom zones. | ||
| And if you'll build in our marginal land, not productive land, we'll give you some incentives like deferred capital gains or accelerated depreciation. | ||
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And we'll get them. | |
| They'll take us up on that. | ||
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They'll say, oh, wow, I can't pass that. | |
| I mean, you'll take it away. | ||
| So they're not taking agricultural land. | ||
| They're out in the more desert areas, more of the areas of cancer. | ||
| The land we can't use for anything. | ||
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So we'll put them there. | |
| Now, we do have. | ||
| They have transmission, though. | ||
| They'll say, hey, we're losing so much on transmission from these remote things. | ||
| You've got to incentivize some of them. | ||
| So let's make the incentives good enough and they'll do it. | ||
| We're going to solve the water and the electricity problem with a product called SMR. | ||
| SMR is small modular reactor. | ||
| They're similar to what we've been using since you mean nuclear reactor. | ||
| Yeah, same thing we've been using for 60 years on our submarines and aircraft carriers. | ||
| So these things are much safer. | ||
| Submarines and aircraft carriers, you've got Hyman Rickover's great. | ||
| I was a naval officer. | ||
| The nuclear Navy is the best. | ||
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Are you going to have the same quality? | |
| I mean, we haven't had an accident, I think, since Admiral Rickover started. | ||
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Are you confident? | |
| None. | ||
| But are you confident that bringing nuclear power in here, which I'm a big nuclear power proponent, it's going to be safe enough for the state of Texas? | ||
| These are actually much safer than what we're using on the submarines and ships. | ||
| So they can put these in and you can just add them like so that doesn't take the energy part, but it's still going to split the water. | ||
| Well, yeah, it does too. | ||
| So these SMRs will actually, they could put power back on the grid instead of taking it off. | ||
| And these can be, they actually be positive for the population to potentially lower electoral bills. | ||
| And they don't have to be cooled with water. | ||
| That's another big deal. | ||
| They can be cooled with hydrogen. | ||
| And Roger, Abilene Christian University, they're doing research on molten salt, cooling them with salt. | ||
| And so we use those. | ||
| Those are closed loops. | ||
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Abbott on Job Security
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| So there's no, you know, anything to get rid of. | ||
| And they don't use our water and they're going to use our electricity. | ||
| We're going to be in pretty good shape. | ||
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Pretty good shape. | |
| How long have you been Agriculture Commissioner? | ||
| I'm in my third term, so 11 years. | ||
| 11 years. | ||
| And what's the biggest changes that you feel you've contributed to agriculture in Texas? | ||
| Well, we've done a lot of things. | ||
| And I'll just pick one. | ||
| This probably affects more people than anybody else. | ||
| So I'm in charge of nutrition. | ||
| In that, how would Bobby Kennedy rate you? | ||
| Make America Healthy Again. | ||
| Well, he's got some different ideas on nutrition, right? | ||
| But they say that agriculture, you know, they say agriculture is the most important part of our health. | ||
| If he says HHS, we cut all Americans being sick and having chronic illness by the food. | ||
| It's all in the soil. | ||
| And he's right. | ||
| And I agree with him. | ||
| And actually, I was Maha 10 years ago when I took this office because our schools, I'm responsible for 5.5 million school meals every day. | ||
| I mean, that's a big lunchroom, the whole state of Texas. | ||
| So our schools weren't serving any local products, none. | ||
| It was all ultra-processed, flash-frozen, added sauce, dyes, preservatives, you know, just instead of having healthy kids, we had healthy trash cans. | ||
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It tastes like crap. | |
| No one would eat it. | ||
| So I went on this program, the Farm Fresh program, and again, through incentives, not regulation, encouraged schools, at least on Friday, to serve something locally and have meet the farmer Friday. | ||
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So we've expanded from that. | |
| Bottom line, last year, our schools bought and served $300 million worth of locally grown products. | ||
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Very healthy. | |
| A lot of it's organic. | ||
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No added dyes. | |
| Do you hope to be of those, is your target that all 5.5 million meals one day will be from Texas product Texas kids eating Texas agriculture? | ||
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We're getting close. | |
| 81% of the schools on a voluntary basis are participating in our program. | ||
| And Bobby Kennedy picked up on that and we become good friends. | ||
| I'm part of the Maha team. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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Talk about that. | |
| Well, when you unveiled the new food pyramid, I was there with you. | ||
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Saw that. | |
| And so that was that's. | ||
| Did you ever think you'd be up there with a guy named Bobby Kennedy Jr.? | ||
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Hardcore as you are. | |
| I'm part of your temple, huh? | ||
| He's done a hell of a job, though. | ||
| Do you think that do you think the part about the agriculture and the make America healthy again, do you think that's just optics? | ||
| Are you convinced this is real? | ||
| Oh, this is real. | ||
| It is real. | ||
| I mean, we spend so much money on health care. | ||
| I mean, it's climbing. | ||
| You know, people are since COVID, people's outlook on the food they eat is a lot different. | ||
| I call them these COVID moms. | ||
| They want to know where their food comes from. | ||
| They want to know what's in it. | ||
| They want to know who grew it. | ||
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Well, that's part of our coalition. | |
| That's why Kennedy and people like Tulsa Gabbert add a thing. | ||
| Governor Abbott, I think an ally of Governor Abbott at one time. | ||
| He's not endorsing you for this race. | ||
| No, look, and Abbott might have had enough, but he's ahead of the curve on the Sharia stuff. | ||
| What is about the falling out with you and Governor Abbott? | ||
| And what is, why did he endorse your opponent? | ||
| Well, I don't think he likes me. | ||
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Why don't he like you? | |
| Just your, just your stock. | ||
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I call him out. | |
| Look, my job is to protect agriculture, promote agriculture. | ||
| So going back to COVID, he had all these where you shut down businesses, you know, essential, non-essential business. | ||
| Well, I had livestock auctions shut down, feed dealers, Western stores. | ||
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That must have been easy shutting down livestock. | |
| I'm autonomous. | ||
| I'm not part of the governor. | ||
| I mean, I have executive power over the agriculture code. | ||
| So I said, wait a minute. | ||
| I'm going to issue my own executive order. | ||
| Any agriculture business, any agriculture-related business, or any business sports agriculture, you're essential and you're to stay open. | ||
| So we opened up all the feed seed fertilizer dealers, Western stores, florists, landscapers, gun shops. | ||
| He had them all closed. | ||
| And that did not set well with him. | ||
| He couldn't figure out how to deal with it. | ||
| And then again, he decided that he was going to inspect trucks as they were coming across the river from Mexico, even though they'd already been inspected. | ||
| And he shut down the border. | ||
| And we lost $3 billion worth of product rotted on those trucks that backed up. | ||
| We had 750 Texas-owned trucks in Mexico. | ||
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Do you think that he was doing that? | |
| Do you think that that level of care of shutting them down for the double and triple inspections was worth it? | ||
| Or do you disagree with that? | ||
| Well, I'll tell you the result and you can get to decide. | ||
| Found zero illegal aliens and zero contraband, nothing in a week's worth. | ||
| And it cost us $3 billion worth of product. | ||
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Illegal aliens. | |
| There's a big controversy now with Tom Holman, who I'm a big fan of Tom Holman. | ||
| Tom Holman's saying there's unprecedented cooperation in these big cities. | ||
| And I'm saying, come on, Tom. | ||
| I mean, the Minnesota Fry and these guys laugh at you every day. | ||
| Hochul in New York and now Spanberger in Virginia have put out decrees, executive orders in the last 24, 48 hours saying no law enforcement in the Commonwealth of Virginia, no law enforcement in the entire state will work with ICE at all. | ||
| Now, one of the big issues in Texas is clearly construction oilfield workers and agriculture. | ||
| Our understanding is that a couple of big raids on the construction things were called off because it would affect business. | ||
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They couldn't do stuff. | |
| What is the situation in Texas with Texas agriculture about really having American citizens as the labor force? | ||
| I think this is misunderstood. | ||
| At one time, we used a lot of illegal labor. | ||
| No doubt about that. | ||
| Not now, though. | ||
| We need about 800,000 migrant workers. | ||
| We have a program called the H-2A program. | ||
| It's a legal way to get workers up here. | ||
| We started with 75,000. | ||
| We worked that up last year to 400,000. | ||
| We're getting an extra 100,000. | ||
| So now we've got 500,000 of the 800,000. | ||
| But the 800,000 is shrinking. | ||
| The need is dropping. | ||
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Because of the technology. | |
| Technology. | ||
| We have cows that milk theirselves, unmanned drones that spray our crops. | ||
| Is that 500,000? | ||
| Are you confident that couldn't be done with American labor if the wages were higher? | ||
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Well, I'll tell you what. | |
| The last thing that a farmer wants to do, let's say a dairyman, he wants to hear, you know, that he has to hire an illegal. | ||
| That's his only option because somebody wakes him up at four in the morning and says, hey, boss, they just picked up all the hands. | ||
| Who's going to milk the cows? | ||
| You don't want to put yourself in that position. | ||
| Who's going to pick the crops today? | ||
| How are we going to get the crops in? | ||
| All the hands are just, you know, Border Patrol just picked them all up. | ||
| So, no, they do not want to work illegals. | ||
| I mean, sometimes that's the only choice you have. | ||
| You do what you have to do to feed the family. | ||
| But for the most part, we don't work near as many of them as we used to. | ||
| What would you tell Tom Holman? | ||
| What's the best way for Tom Holman and ICE in the state of Texas to do this that's logical, to do it that, so you're not crippling business? | ||
| It's humane, but it's got to happen. | ||
| If mass deportations is what the American people are demanding, what would be your recommendation to Holman? | ||
| Well, I think I'm the least qualified to tell Tom Holman how to do his job. | ||
| I think he's doing a perfect job. | ||
| He knows that job better than anybody else. | ||
| And Tom, just keep doing what you're doing. | ||
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You're doing great. | |
| I mean, you got my 100% approval. | ||
| Now, you've got a young, I think his name's Sheets says he's a populist nationalist. | ||
| He's your competitor this time. | ||
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What are the differences in policies? | |
| Let's leave personality aside, but policies between what he's proposing and what you're proposing. | ||
| Well, the only time I've disagreed with the president is when he came out and said, we need to import more Argentine beef. | ||
| I said, oh, wait a minute. | ||
| Let me give you some different ideas. | ||
| To fix this problem, we need to grow the cattle herd. | ||
| We need more cattle. | ||
| This complicates our agriculture trade deficit, makes it worse. | ||
| So I said, you know, open up some great, Biden kicked all of our ranchers off the grazing land because of cow flax and climate change. | ||
| And so is that really the reason they used it? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So I said, so open those grazing lands. | ||
| So we got a place to put our cows so we don't have to send them to slaughter in the drought. | ||
| Bergen almost immediately opened 5 million acres. | ||
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So that's good. | |
| And I said, put in a heifer retention tax credit. | ||
| You know, if a farmer keeps a heifer, give them $500 off his taxes. | ||
| They'll start keeping them and growing the herd, I promise you. | ||
| Because you're saying you ought, and particularly in Texas, you want Texas beef and American beef versus either Brazilian or Argentine. | ||
| No, we don't need that. | ||
| No, we, you know, it's not even the same quality. | ||
| You can't even compare it. | ||
| So we want the American, it's American. | ||
| This is part of the financial ballot. | ||
| I know my buddy Scott Besson worked under the part of the Argentine thing was help them get cash, generate cash to pay down their rise. | ||
| Because the economy is all. | ||
| Do you think you've stopped that because of your policies? | ||
| Well, what they did was minuscule. | ||
| It was less than 2% of what we needed. | ||
| So it really didn't move the needle very much. | ||
| 2% of what you needed to get the American beef back out. | ||
| So it might have lowered, and it was only hamburger meat. | ||
| It didn't change the price of a steak or a roast or anything, the high-quality cuts. | ||
| But that's really not, in my vision, America-first policy. | ||
| We need those jobs here. | ||
| We need our slaughter plants to process our trucks, our farmers, you know. | ||
| So why would Abbott disagree with you on any of these? | ||
| These are all America-first, Texas agriculture-first policies. | ||
| Well, my opponent says that we just need to buy more foreign beef. | ||
| And I disagree with him on that. | ||
| My education is in agriculture. | ||
| He has none. | ||
| I was an ag teacher and taught FFA and the 4-H and couldn't wait when I turned nine to get into 4-H so I could start showing animals. | ||
| He was never even, he hadn't lived on a farm. | ||
| Is this the toughest primary race you think you've had? | ||
| This is the least qualified person I've ever run against, but he's rich and a hard worker. | ||
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I'll give him that. | |
| He's spending lots of money trying to buy the election. | ||
| But he's really unqualified because he's never lived on a farm. | ||
| He said that FFA didn't teach kids anything about agriculture. | ||
| I mean, the guy just clueless. | ||
| So you're a big supporter of Future Farmers of America? | ||
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| It's the best artist. | ||
| It actually teaches leadership, too. | ||
| That's where we get some of our best leaders is through Brooke Rollins, the Secretary of Agriculture, got her starting FA. | ||
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She talks about it all the time. | |
| We've got a couple of minutes left. | ||
| One of the reasons that we've moved the show here is this whole issue on Prop 10 on the ballot about Sharia law. | ||
| You're 70 years old. | ||
| You've lived here your entire life. | ||
| You're a native Texan. | ||
| Your observations about the situation of Sharia law in Texas right now? | ||
| Well, I came out, this was like October, I guess, and I called on Governor Abbott and the president to declare the Muslim Brotherhood and Care terrorist organizations. | ||
| Why did you do that so early? | ||
| I could just see it. | ||
| I mean, you see it up here in Dallas, this epic city or meadows, whatever they call it now. | ||
| They come in here, they want to assimilate, they want to install Sharia law. | ||
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It's not a religious freedom. | |
| This is a government takeover. | ||
| I mean, look at France and Germany. | ||
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Look at Sweden. | |
| And don't even talk about Britain. | ||
| The backbone of this state are ranchers and farmers. | ||
| Where do they stand on this issue? | ||
| They're with me. | ||
| I mean, we got to stop this before we end up like London or someplace like that. | ||
| They come in and just eventually take over. | ||
| And, you know, their goal is to, you know, have their representation in Congress, you know, have a majority there, and then they can install Sharia law. | ||
| We got a minute. | ||
| Why in October did you come out and say they got to be designated terrorist organizations? | ||
| Even the president has, I mean, he's done it in Jordan and in Syria, but he hasn't done it overall. | ||
| Why did Sid Miller, the agriculture commissioner in Texas, why did you come out in October? | ||
| I just see how dangerous this is. | ||
| I mean, it's real. | ||
| I mean, we need to take this seriously because everything they do is against our Constitution. | ||
| It's against our founding fathers. | ||
| It's against our Judeo-Christian values. | ||
| I mean, what they want to do is just destroy us. | ||
| And the ranchers and farmers are with us on this? | ||
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| Proposition 10 to prohibit Sharia law in Texas, you support? | ||
| It'll pass with 95 plus percent. | ||
| Sid, where do people go for social media to find out how you're doing as an agriculture commissioner and what's your campaign site? | ||
| So, social media is Miller for Texas, F-O-R, Miller for Texas. | ||
| My website is sidmiller.com. | ||
| It's a real hard one to remember. | ||
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Thank you, brother. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| By the way, you gave a magnificent interview back in 2016, and you were the cover bid to be the department, the Secretary of Agriculture. | ||
| I know the president thinks very highly of you. | ||
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| Take a short commercial break. | ||
| Janet Cuardino, former FBI special agent and one of the top experts in the world and lives in Texas on this issue of Sharia law next in Warren, Texas. | ||
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We'll be back in a moment. | |
| As the nation goes, so goes the world. | ||
| Are you prepared to fight for this state? | ||
| Are you prepared to fight for your country? | ||
| John Guandola joins us, a former FBI, also military, been training about folks in D.C. That's where I met him years ago at the very beginning of all this, I think 15, 20 years ago, about Sharia law in the Islamic invasion of the West. | ||
| John, we just had Sid Miller on, who's agriculture commissioner and running again in a very tightly fought race. | ||
| He came out in October and recommended to the president and the abbot that the Muslim Brotherhood and CARE in the state of Texas be designated terrorist organizations. | ||
| Now, how we get, and he says because, hey, the ranchers and farmers here are talking about it all the time. | ||
| One thing I think we've been able to do here from the time we had the first conference and the dinner and launched a war in Texas is given people a permission structure to talk about this now. | ||
| And people like Sid, a couple of months getting far ahead of this and saying, hey, they've got to be designated terrorist organizations. | ||
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What are your thoughts? | |
| You feel, I can tell you, we're inundated today, not just in Texas of people that want to come on the show or people who want to talk about this, but all over the country, Arizona, Oklahoma, Arkansas, South Carolina. | ||
| Mike Lindell came on the other day and said the first thing he would do in the governor's, when he was elected governor as a Republican, would be ban Sharia law in the state of Minnesota. | ||
| He says it has to be done. | ||
| And I might add that Mike Lindell, the first real poll that's come out in that primary, Mike Lindell is up one point over the Speaker of the House, a female who's the Speaker of the House, Republican Speaker of the House, or the leading Republican in the House in Minnesota. | ||
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| And she had like a 20-point lead on him at one time. | ||
| Do you think we've actually provided a permission structure for people to start to talk about this? | ||
| Because when I first met you in D.C., there was no permission structure to do that. | ||
| In fact, in the original war against terror with Bush and these guys, we could never actually say what the reality was of the Muslim Brotherhood and particularly this aspect of Islam about Sharia law, sir. | ||
| So, yes, and thanks for having me on again, Steve. | ||
| Yes, I do think it's interesting that so many people are speaking about this very openly and very frankly, which is in one sense, as you mentioned, I think, you know, doing this for 25 years and seeing this, it's in one sense, I'm a little frustrated that, you know, 25, 20, 15, even 10 years ago, | ||
| and even five years ago, and even a few years ago, those of us who are out here speaking it, you know, we've been threatened, we've been audited by the IRS, we've been sued, all these things, and now it's being talked about. | ||
| So yes, I believe the leaders have an open door to speak much more frankly than even a year ago, even two years ago. | ||
| And that's a good thing. | ||
| I think focusing the effort first on the Muslim Brotherhood is a very good thing because they drive much of the structure. | ||
| I think we need to understand that this is a war that's being waged by hostile foreign powers using thousands of proxies in the United States to wage this war. | ||
| And we're seeing that when you look across the United States, what's going on in Arizona, what's going on in Texas, what's going on in Minneapolis, what's going on in Michigan, what's going on, quite frankly, in North Carolina, what's going on in Atlanta. | ||
| It's happening everywhere, and it has to be addressed. | ||
| And certainly speaking about it is the first step. | ||
| Why does it seem like it's everywhere all at once? | ||
| I mean, you know, and I can tell this is happening because not just the outpouring I've gotten, we're going to, you know, we've had a huge conference today with grassroots leaders where over 100 showed up. | ||
| They're fully dedicated to one proposition in March on the ballot, and that is to prohibit Sharia law in the state of Texas. | ||
| But I've worked on grassroots and, you know, between Breitbart and President Trump's campaigns and then the war room, you know, we've always been a platform for the grassroots voices. | ||
| I've never seen a galvanizing issue come together so quickly about this, but I'm seeing it in other states too. | ||
| People are coming all the time saying, we have to do this in North Carolina. | ||
| We have to do this in Oklahoma. | ||
| We have to do it particularly in Arizona. | ||
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People are coming. | |
| Why does it seem like all of a sudden this was right below the surface and people just need a permission structure to talk about it? | ||
| Because when you say it's a war, what are the Muslim Brotherhood and the people trying to spread Sharia law? | ||
| Why have they chosen this minute or these last couple of years to really go full force into, because when I knew you, a lot of it was about infiltration into the federal government, infiltration into the intelligence services, infiltration into law enforcement. | ||
| And I tell people when I was in the White House for that year in 2017, from the time I took over the Trump campaign in 16 to 17, the one thing I had the biggest epic fail on where we succeeded in so many things, Paris Accord, getting at so many things and turning things around in the economic plan, I had literally a faceplant when I tried to drive the designation of the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. | ||
| The entire apparatus, particularly the State Department, the Pentagon was terrible. | ||
| The intelligence services were worse. | ||
| Oh, these guys just provide hospitals and schools, and they're really our allies throughout the world. | ||
| I'm sitting there going, what are you talking about? | ||
| But you couldn't make any traction at all. | ||
| Why is it that it looks like across the nation in the states themselves, we're seeing this really this drive of the Muslim Brotherhood and these foreign powers and their allies to bring Sharia in some sort of mass bases into the states of the United States? | ||
| So this is a, I mean, this is the question. | ||
| So it might be helpful for your audience to lay a couple markers on the ground. | ||
| First of all, everything they do is about Sharia, the global Islamic movement. | ||
| It's the stated purpose of Islam is to impose Allah's divine law, Sharia on the earth. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| But the modus operandi of these movements, the Muslim Brotherhood being the leading movement, but in the United States, we also have the Hezbollah, Iranian elements and a very large movement there, the Diobandis, Tbiliki Jama, Jamadi Islami, these other elements. | ||
| The thing that I'm very concerned about is there are a lot of people talking about we need to ban Sharia, we need to ban the Muslim Brotherhood. | ||
| But if you talk to them and say, I want you to explain to me what Sharia is and how do they use it in this war to undermine what we're doing, you get about five or 10 seconds, and that's the end of the understanding. | ||
| This is a war that's primarily being fought in the information battle space. | ||
| So we still have people, and it's a good thing that they're, you know, now they're starting to say, you know, the problem is Sharia and Sharia is a foundation of Islam. | ||
| So the problem is Islam. | ||
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| So saying that 25, 20, 15 years ago was not a popular thing. | ||
| now as the enemy is at literally their final stage of the war, they're not necessarily concerned that Americans are catching on. | ||
| In Sharia and in Islam, you'll know everything about Sharia when you're under it. | ||
| That's their perspective. | ||
| And you're not allowed to talk about it. | ||
| And they don't talk about it in truthful ways until they're in their final stages. | ||
| And when you hear Muslims as they are in the United States speaking much more frankly about what jihad is, what Sharia is, and what their true intentions are, it means they believe it's game over. | ||
| Now, I don't necessarily believe that. | ||
| I don't believe that. | ||
| But we have to understand they're in the end game. | ||
| And just now, Americans and our leaders are waking up that, hey, this might be a problem because for 30 years from the Clinton administration forward, we were told that Islam, true Islam, some mystical version of Islam not taught anywhere on the planet is really good. | ||
| But this radical perversion of Islam that al-Qaeda and Boko Haram teach and is taught, by the way, in every Islamic school on the planet, because it's a capital crime for Muslims to teach Muslims anything about Islam that's not actually true. | ||
| So our understanding of this is still at a very, in my opinion, a very shallow depth. | ||
| And actually, the citizens who have been trained or taken a deeper dive understand it at a much deeper level than the leadership of the state and federal governments around the United States. | ||
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| And I'll just share this quick story. | ||
| Full stop. | ||
| Give me an example. | ||
| I need to know that because people are saying, hey, I'm reading the books. | ||
| I'm going online to John's, what John puts out. | ||
| I'm teaching myself. | ||
| I want to go part of the thing in the conference today. | ||
| One was workshops on what we're doing, on what the grassroots are doing to lead to three March. | ||
| The whole half of it at the end of it was seminars actually sit there and go, you need to really understand this. | ||
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You understand the depth. | |
| Why do you say citizens right now are better trained than leaders at the state or federal level? | ||
| That would come as a pretty big shock to folks. | ||
| Out of necessity, because they've recognized their leaders aren't doing it. | ||
| I can tell you over the last 20 plus years of actually training FBI, CIA, DHS, local and state law enforcement, 100% of them, 100% over the years. | ||
| At the end of the training, I asked two questions. | ||
| Did you know this information? | ||
| So this is about Sharia, about the Muslim Brotherhood Network, and how they actually operate. | ||
| Did you know this information before you came in? | ||
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| 100% have said, no, we did not know this. | ||
| And this includes FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force agents and officers. | ||
| It includes DHS, name it. | ||
| But when I ask the second question, do you believe this is critical to protecting your community? | ||
| 100% say yes. | ||
| Whereas when we go in and teach citizens 10 years ago, five years ago, and today, and today it's even much more so, they walk in with at least a general understanding of these movements and that they are operating in their community. | ||
| And they even know some of the organizations, the Islamic Society of North America, Muslim American Society, CARE, Muslim Student Associations, Islamic Circle of North America, and they understand they're hostile. | ||
| And that's the difference, is the way this war works. | ||
| You just said it, when you have jihadis advising presidents, governors, state legislators, pastors, chambers of commerce, how to defeat jihadis, it's no wonder that the leadership remains clueless, just staggeringly ignorant of the Islamic threat of Sharia, of the Muslim Brotherhood, and the other movements and the networks, | ||
| because that's the intentional target of the information operation from the enemy's perspective. | ||
| So we've been looking, we have this narrative that there are these competing versions of Islam. | ||
| And this was true under Bush, what America needs to do is get the good Muslims to help us understand the bad Muslims. | ||
| Except there's only one Islam. | ||
| There's one Sharia. | ||
| And that's it. | ||
| So are there Muslims who don't want to adhere to Sharia and wage jihad? | ||
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| But what they believe doesn't constitute a different version of Islam. | ||
| They're just outliers. | ||
| And according to Sharia, they're apostates and they should be killed. | ||
| And so we can't base national security decisions, foreign policy, and domestic counterterrorism strategy based on someone who calls themselves a Muslim, number one, and doesn't follow Sharia. | ||
| And number two, in fact, 100% of the people we're leaning on to get advice from in DHS, FBI, our general officers in the military, et cetera, are Muslim Brotherhood. | ||
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They're hostile. | |
| They're jihadis in suits, claiming to be nice people and presenting a very friendly image when in fact they're not. | ||
| And that's why I say this is much more a counterintelligence, espionage, and subversive movement, because they're still doing it. | ||
| They're in this administration doing it. | ||
| And it creates havoc because you have what appears to be competing versions of Islam. | ||
| And you get people who are in national security positions saying, well, you know, what Saudi Arabia does is different from what Jordan does, is different from what Indonesia does. | ||
| It's all based on Sharia. | ||
| And so just because they don't advance Sharia at the same level, well, that's part of jihad. | ||
| You can only go as far and as fast as you're able to do without losing too many members of the Islamic community who don't get it. | ||
| And so there's a requirement to educate the Muslim population. | ||
| And you can't go so fast in advancing the jihad that you expose your hand to the non-Muslims on what you're actually doing. | ||
| And a great, you know, there are so many examples of this, but we have to understand that you have to understand based on Sharia. | ||
| That's how they make their decisions. | ||
| It's a blueprint for how they wage war. | ||
| And deception is at the center of all of this. | ||
| And so when you have, there is, you know, just like we've talked about before on your show, Steve, Mr. Trump invited a Hezbollah guy to his first, to this past inauguration. | ||
| And I was able to inform some people who had an inroad to the administration to kick that guy out, Imam Husseini. | ||
| And then they were going to replace him with another guy who I then provided information on who's also a bad guy. | ||
| At the national level, there is not one Muslim working at that level who's not hostile. | ||
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| And we can go down the list by name. | ||
| We did it before when people were like, well, we're going to bring this guy as Oz Sultan into the first Trump administration. | ||
| And I was able to demonstrate he's a jihadi. | ||
| And Mike Flynn walked him out of the building. | ||
| There is, you're not, at that level, you're not going to get somebody who's not hostile. | ||
| And this is the problem is we keep looking for the good ones. | ||
| And at that level, the information campaign and the information battle is so strong that they make sure that the target is the leadership. | ||
| The higher up in the chain, the more they're going to make sure that information is not getting to them. | ||
| Whereas the people down at the ground level are still doing their due diligence and getting to them. | ||
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| And by the way, I just want to say this. | ||
| The Hezbollah guy that got invited to the Trump inauguration, this past one, who was fired for bringing that guy in? | ||
| Nobody. | ||
| How was the vetting process changed in this administration? | ||
| It wasn't. | ||
| And so long as we keep making these mistakes and they keep know that the enemy knows where those open doors are, where the counterintelligence failures are, they're walking right in. | ||
| And they do it by building relations. | ||
| I mean, you got Jared Kushner chastising people like me for going after Qatar and Turkey and Saudi Arabia and how wonderful they are. | ||
| So he's literally carrying the water for these hostile jihadi states who are at the front end of the global Islamic movement. | ||
| That's because he's a target of these hostile information operations. | ||
| John, we got to bounce, but I need people to go to your site. | ||
| You're working on a book that I think is going to be a major magnum opus about this entire area, but you've got tons of information up on your site, training courses, social media. | ||
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| JohnGuandolo.com. | ||
| And yes, the book, The Campaign Plan for Victory, will be the third in that trilogy, Raising a Jihadi Generation, Islam's Deception, The Truth About Sharia, and now the Campaign Plan for Victory, which is literally a blueprint for how to win the war. | ||
| Look forward to seeing that. | ||
| Social media, where do they go, John? | ||
| Jay Guandolo, 54271. | ||
| But if you just search Jay Guandola, you'll find me on X. Thank you, brother. | ||
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| Look forward to having you back on and maybe one day in studio. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Reward for coming out with a battle plan of how we win. | ||
| First step, go to the polls, the primary on March 3rd, or early voting starts the 17th. | ||
| Make sure that you vote Proposition 10 to prohibit Sharia law in the state of Texas, Prop 10. | ||
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| I want to thank Jenny for putting on this magnificent conference today of all the grassroots leaders that are working on this issue about the proposition for remarch. | ||
| Really pretty impressive what they've pulled together. | ||
| giving a permission structure to people talk about the Shri law in the state of Texas. | ||
| And as Sid said today, hopefully we're going to win with a 95% margin, but we'll take any victory. | ||
| We need a huge turnout. | ||
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