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Going Medieval On Critics
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| This is the primal screen of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| You're going to not get a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
| MAGA Media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
| steven k band friday 23rd of january anno domini 2026. | ||
| Harnwell here at the helm on Steve Bannon's war room. | ||
| Well, folks, we've made it to the end of the week, and what a roller coaster of a week it has been. | ||
| On Wednesday, on our show, digging in a little bit into all things Christian, we covered how three of the American Catholic bishops, Catholic cardinals, have made a really relatively unprecedented intervention. | ||
| That's Cardinals Supic, McElroy, and Tobin calling for a moral foreign policy. | ||
| That was a real throwdown on the Trump administration. | ||
| And there is some confusion here because the last person you're ever going to hear defending the Second Vatican Council is myself. | ||
| However, the council made it clear that the renewal of the temple order belongs to the laity, not to the clergy. | ||
| And you see the massive anti-conciliar instincts, if I might be provocative, on behalf of all these modernists that are trying to take back to themselves these decisions, political decisions, which belong to the laity, or men and women of goodwill. | ||
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Intentionality In Civil Disobedience
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| This is the whole point about the discretion that Catholics have in the political sphere. | ||
| To join me then today's show to go over some of these things, including the interventions some Catholics are making over ICE, is Peter Wolfgang, the executive director of the Family Institute of Connecticut. | ||
| Peter, thanks for coming back onto the show. | ||
| The phones didn't stop ringing when you came on a couple of months ago. | ||
| Let's start off then with the two articles that you published recently over the course of the past week in Catholic culture. | ||
| Because I think, you know, some of the things here, you're the only person saying what I've been thinking. | ||
| And I'd like you, if you wouldn't mind, just to dig into this a little bit more. | ||
| Firstly, let me cite you because you're saying here that we're talking here about the shooting of Renee Good. | ||
| And you're sort of make you make the argument that the ICE agent himself, it might not have looked to him that she was swerving to get away at the last moment. | ||
| And you obviously make the point that he'd also faced a vehicular assault before. | ||
| The intentionality, therefore, is important here. | ||
| And I just wondered if I might lean on your authority on these things. | ||
| If you could just explain a little bit, because there might be some confusion here, even amongst Catholics of Goodwill that perhaps haven't studied theology quite so profoundly. | ||
| But why is intentionality important in Catholic morality? | ||
| And why does it have an influence to bear on the present discussion to do with Renee Goode's killing? | ||
| Well, Ben, first, thank you for having me back. | ||
| You are referencing my January 9th article at CatholicCulture.org. | ||
| And in that article, it was titled Critics of Minnesota Ice Shooting Face Uphill Climb. | ||
| Here's why. | ||
| And your question gets to the very first reason of here's why. | ||
| In my article, I'm talking about the frame of mind that the agent may have been in who shot Renee Goode. | ||
| And I'm reacting to what I saw in a New York Times video. | ||
| The New York Times put out a video making the argument that Renee Goode was swerving her tires. | ||
| She was swerving her tires to get away from the agent to not run over the agent, which may well be, but two things can be true at the same time. | ||
| And I'll get to your point about your question about Catholic theology and intentionality and why that's important. | ||
| But just as a pragmatic matter, what it looked like to me when I watched the, and of course, what we really need is some sort of official finder of fact, whoever that would be. | ||
| The rest of us can all speak about this on the internet, but we really need some finder of fact to figure that out. | ||
| I can tell you from my perspective, looking at those videos, what I saw, and I looked at several of those videos, it may well be that Renee Goode was swerving her tires and trying not directly to run over that agent. | ||
| But from other videos, it looks like she was aiming right for him. | ||
| You know, she hit the guy and it didn't look good from his perspective. | ||
| So I think it's quite possible that even if she was swerving her tires away, from his perspective, he didn't know that. | ||
| I mean, she should have got out of the car the moment the agent said, get out of the car. | ||
| I mean, that's the moment where I think she crossed a moral boundary. | ||
| And I feel that way about the anti-ICE protesters in general. | ||
| There's a fantastic article at, I think the website is called Compact by Alicia Nieves, who actually organized these rapid response networks initially during the first Trump administration when they were meant to do something peaceful and lawful, which is just record these arrests and get these people the legal help they need. | ||
| Now the ICE agent, the anti-ICE protesters are doing something much more aggressive that I think does cross legal boundaries. | ||
| So from the perspective of this poor ICE agent, I think it looked to him like she was coming for him, that she was going to run him down. | ||
| And he had already been through this once before. | ||
| He had been dragged. | ||
| I think the guy feared for his life. | ||
| Now, why does this matter in terms of intentionality with Catholic moral teaching? | ||
| Well, because Catholic morality. | ||
| Peter, before you go into that, let's just make the point here then, the synthesis of what you're saying. | ||
| I don't know if it helps to name the guy to use his name in this conversation, but his name has publicly been released, Jonathan Ross, right? | ||
| So important to say, the argument you're making here, before you go on now to the intentionality point, is that he had basically a split second to make an evaluation. | ||
| And there could have been a number of things on his mind in that moment. | ||
| And what was his thought of what was taking place at that moment in time would have dictated his response to that, right? | ||
| So let's do this now. | ||
| Let's go into the intentionality point of this. | ||
| So in Catholic morality, judges the whole human act, and that's evaluated by three elements. | ||
| There's the object, what are you doing? | ||
| There's the intention, why are you doing it? | ||
| And there's the circumstances, how, when, by whom, with what effects. | ||
| So taking those guidelines, look at the perspective of the agent. | ||
| I mean, was he trying to kill this woman out of malice? | ||
| Was it gratuitous? | ||
| Was he trying to teach a lesson to the anti-ICE protesters? | ||
| It doesn't look that way to me at all. | ||
| I mean, according to the government statistics, there have been, there were 99 such episodes in 2025, last year, of cars trying to ram ICE agents. | ||
| They have been through this over and over again. | ||
| If anything, the ICE agents have an incredible record of public safety, given how outrageously dangerous have been the activities of the protesters. | ||
| And this particular agent, as we said, had been dragged. | ||
| So from his perspective, he's got a split second to think about this. | ||
| Do I defend my life or do I get run over? | ||
| And he had to make that call. | ||
| And I think, according to Catholic morality, which judges the intentionality, how, when, by whom, with what effects, I think he made the best call that he did over the circumstances. | ||
| And when we consider, you know, when we're looking at that big picture, I really don't think, according to Catholic morality, and I wrote about this in both my articles, I really don't think that the ICE protesters, that is the anti-ICE protesters, the people against ICE, I don't think they have any or very little moral credibility here when compared with past protest movements. | ||
| And we can quibble with some of those movements. | ||
| We can talk about whatever the moral failings were of some of their leadership. | ||
| But when you think about Martin Luther King's early civil rights movement in the 1950s, early 1960s, when you think about the Operation Rescue pro-life protests of the 1980s, when you think about Gandhi in India in the 1940s, these were all nonviolent protests. | ||
| The protesters were all taught, certainly in the case of King and Operation Rescue, to go limp when you were being arrested. | ||
| And that's not what's going on with ICE. | ||
| Because, okay, you make the point here that Catholic teaching allows civil disobedience. | ||
| But you make the point, and you underline this quite strongly, that the anti-ICE protests aren't comparable to Martin Luther King's civil rights protests, also because of the violent nature of the anti-ICE protests, because the Catholic endorsed civil disobedience is predicated on a nonviolent response. | ||
| Is that correct? | ||
| That is correct. | ||
| And I'm pretty sure that I quote, I want to say it's paragraph 2243. | ||
| I don't have the article in front of me, but it's either 2242 or 2243 in the catechism of the Catholic Church, which does allow for civil disobedience. | ||
| Now, the very next paragraph does talk about the circumstances under which violence could happen, but they throw down something like five criteria that have to be met. | ||
| And they're very stringent. | ||
| And we are nowhere near that with what's going on right now. | ||
| That's more like something like what's happening in Iran or I don't know, some other country where the oppression is of magnitudes higher than whatever it is that even the anti-ICE people think that they're facing in the United States of America right now. | ||
| Under normal circumstances, the civil disobedience, our faith does allow for and even encourage then under certain conditions, civil disobedience, but it must be non-violent then. | ||
| And these tactics, I think, discredit the anti-ICE protesters and also, and this is very important, the cause. | ||
| You know, fighting for racial equality is one thing, or fighting to protect the unborn child, that's another thing. | ||
| What the anti-ICE protesters are fighting for here is an attack on public order altogether. | ||
| They're not saying the same thing. | ||
| Even if we disagree with, say, Pope Leo or the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops about what is the proper role of U.S. immigration policy, if you listen very closely to the Holy Father and to our bishops in the United States, they are not saying the same thing that the anti-ICE protesters are saying. | ||
| What they are saying is: look, immigrants need to be, they're human beings, they need to be treated with dignity. | ||
| And we could debate whether or not it's even fair to bring that up, whether or not they are being treated with dignity or not. | ||
| Maybe that's unfair. | ||
| But the fact is, that's all that the bishops are arguing. | ||
| The anti-ICE protesters, by contrast, they're arguing something different. | ||
| They want ICE abolished altogether. | ||
| They want to return to Biden's policy of de facto open borders. | ||
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| So back to Peter Wolfgang. | ||
| So I have the text in front of me from the catechism. | ||
| It's paragraph 2 to 42. | ||
| And it says, the citizen is obliged in conscience not to follow the directives of civil authorities when they are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or the teachings of the gospel. | ||
| And I think you've made a cogent argument why that's not the case at the moment. | ||
| What do you think, Peter Wolfgang, as a faithful Catholic, as someone who runs a Catholic organization, what do you think? | ||
| And what would you say to confused faithful when you see your bishops and your cardinals descending into the political square to make overtly political and partisan policy positions, portraying those positions as the official teaching of the church, with very little reference to actually what the Catholic Church teaches? | ||
| You know, the late Father Richard John Newhouse, who was the founder of First Things magazine, he had a saying, where it is not necessary for the bishops to speak, it is necessary for the bishops not to speak. | ||
| And what he meant by this, and this was meant as friendly advice to the bishops, was just that, look, obviously, the bishops need to speak on matters that go to the core of Catholic teaching, issues that are preeminent, like the right to life of the unborn, where Catholic teaching is very clear. | ||
| In lesser issues, prudential issues, where there can be a legitimate plurality of Catholic opinion. | ||
| And in that phrase, I'm quoting Joseph Ratzinger when he was before he became Pope Benedict. | ||
| He talks about how there are some issues like abortion and euthanasia where you can't really disagree at all. | ||
| It's strike really. | ||
| You can't disagree with the church on those issues and be a faithful Catholic. | ||
| There are other issues, and at the time he mentioned the death penalty and preemptive war, where there can be a legitimate plurality of opinion among Catholics. | ||
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Catholic Left's Role in Immigration Policy
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| And I think that is the case with immigration policy. | ||
| You know, you quoted paragraph, as I did 2242 in my article about how civil disobedience has to be respectful of the moral order. | ||
| Well, it doesn't violate the moral order to have borders. | ||
| You know, any country has borders, or it's not really a country. | ||
| And when you look at the anti-ICE protesters, that's what's really going on here. | ||
| What they really want is open borders. | ||
| Under Joe Biden, we let in at least 10 million, perhaps 20 million or more illegals into this country. | ||
| They are the ones that created this situation where we now have massed federal agents on our streets trying to clean this up. | ||
| That is a violation of the moral order that it got to this point in the first place. | ||
| And that's not on the agents. | ||
| That's not on President Trump. | ||
| That's the people who gave us this mess. | ||
| And so it is a big, tangled, complicated thing. | ||
| And when the bishops step into it, they need to be very careful in how they articulate it. | ||
| And look, I'm not saying that the bishops can't speak on prudential issues. | ||
| I mean, there's a long history of Catholic social teaching stretching all the way back to Pope Leo 13 in the 1800s, and it can be very helpful. | ||
| But they need to be very careful. | ||
| I would like it if they would hedge it more and say, look, good people can come down on different sides of this issue. | ||
| Here is our considered judgment. | ||
| And I don't think they always do that. | ||
| You use the word confused, and I think that's right. | ||
| I think they can tend to confuse the faithful. | ||
| And there are certainly voices out there. | ||
| We saw this a lot during the Pope Francis era, voices out there that say, if you deviate in the slightest way from anything the bishops say, you're a heretic or a dissenter. | ||
| And it's just not true. | ||
| You know, you mentioned Pope Francis. | ||
| He really was the zenith of portraying his own personal political positions as the official teaching of the church. | ||
| End of story. | ||
| And I like the fact that you mentioned explicitly the point here about the prudential issues, because that's absolutely key to this, right? | ||
| And you actually, You see here the absurdity of that late unlamented Pope Francis going on and on about sort of anti-clericalism and sort of the need for the laity to be involved in sort of the synodality and all the rest of it. | ||
| But in fact, no, we haven't had a Pope as clerical as Francis since Pius XII and arguably since before that. | ||
| Here was a guy who really insisted, effectively, his de facto behavior in the public square was that there's no such thing as prudential issues. | ||
| I will tell you what are your essential political beliefs to be. | ||
| And there's very little difference between that kind of behavior and a religious cult. | ||
| We have about like four or five minutes left. | ||
| The one thing I want to quickly hit in the rest of this segment is your argument here that it's actually the Catholic left itself that is responsible along with Joe Biden for the present situation that ICE is trying to work against. | ||
| Would you make that argument for the war room posse so they can see this and consider this? | ||
| Because the left, the Catholic left, and I've seen that you have been under heavy attack on social media by some proponents of Catholic progressives. | ||
| They seem to be oblivious or deliberately oblivious to the fact that they are largely responsible for the present situation. | ||
| Well, there's a phrase that I'm sure war room viewers are well familiar with: Trump derangement syndrome or TDS. | ||
| And, you know, I've often said the people, and I see them on my newsfeed complaining day and night about President Trump, everything President Trump has done. | ||
| And look, I, you know, President Trump is not above criticism. | ||
| You know, he, my attitude towards him is transactional. | ||
| I'm not, I don't hang on his every word. | ||
| I think he's delivered for the Catholic faithful in many ways. | ||
| He overturned Roe versus Wade. | ||
| But what I've, so I, you know, he's not above criticism. | ||
| But what I would say to the Trump derangement syndrome and particularly to the Catholic left is instead of like raging day and night about how people like me or any of the rest of us who voted for Trump, how could we do that? | ||
| Don't you see this? | ||
| Don't you see that? | ||
| What they really need to do, then every single critic of President Trump, what they need to do, I've been saying this for a decade, each and every one of them needs to look into the mirror and ask themselves, what's so wrong with me that I drove them to Donald Trump? | ||
| And I think they could do no better to answer that question, I think, than perhaps to listen to the war room, Steve Bannon's war room, and all the larger discussion about what has become of America, what's become of our country these last 25 years, how has globalism worked out for our country? | ||
| Is there a better way? | ||
| I think the Trump administration was very articulate recently in Davos in arguing why, particularly the Commerce Secretary, in why the policies that have been pursued for the last 25 or more, 30 years have not been good for the United States of America. | ||
| Why populism and nationalism have risen up? | ||
| What are the needs that it fills? | ||
| And these guys, the Catholic left, man, they just don't care. | ||
| They live in their bubble and they really like to hear themselves talk. | ||
| And they're not really interested in the fact that these things don't take place in a vacuum. | ||
| A lot has happened to our country in these last 25 years, a lot that has not been good. | ||
| Our situation has eroded. | ||
| There are very important thinkers like Steve Bannon and others that are trying to think their way out of this and trying to look at the big picture and saying, look, we are in a historical moment here. | ||
| We're in kind of a hinge moment of history. | ||
| And whether you buy a particular theory of that or not, it's clear that we've lived through these sort of moments before. | ||
| And the Catholic left, all they can do is hear themselves talk. | ||
| It all just seems like a lot of performative virtue signaling. | ||
| You just mentioned that President Trump did deliver on abolishing or overturning Roe versus Wade through his wise appointment of Supreme Court justices. | ||
| In the 60 seconds, 90 seconds that you have left, could you say what are you and faithful Catholics looking for from this administration with regards to perhaps diplomatic outreaches towards the Vatican in how the Vatican interferes in U.S. domestic politics? | ||
| And this is, you know, the background would be to this question, the fact that this is now being discussed openly, the possibility of President Trump going over to the Vatican to see Pope Leo. | ||
| What kind of message would you like to see the administration making there diplomatically? | ||
| Well, I think that there's not as much sunlight as is sometimes portrayed. | ||
| There's not as much distance as is sometimes portrayed between Catholic social teaching and the policies of the Trump administration. | ||
| Even then, it could be argued that in many ways the Trump administration policy is much closer to Catholic social teaching than pre-Trump versions of the Republican Party or conservatism. | ||
| I think that needs to be brought out a lot more, and the Vatican needs to appreciate that better, in my opinion. | ||
| You know, I would go as far as to suggest, or I wouldn't expect you to agree with me on this, Peter, but I would go as far as to suggest that there are some things about this administration that are more Christian and more Catholic than what's coming out of the Vatican itself. | ||
| I remember on the feast of St. Michael the Archangel last year, President Trump put out a statement on the official White House website congratulating Catholics at the feast. | ||
| And that was like, I think, a more Catholic thing than that, I cannot think of right now. | ||
| And yet, I was aware of silence coming out of the Vatican. | ||
| So I would go slightly beyond what you're saying here. | ||
| I think in the political sphere, there are many Catholics of goodwill that actually look for spiritual leadership in the political sphere more from the White House than what they do from the Vatican. | ||
| That's really, I think, all the time we have now, Peter. | ||
| Sorry, because we can obviously spend the next hour going through these things. | ||
| Just very quickly, where do people go on social media to keep up with your output? | ||
| Well, they can go to my personal Facebook, facebook.com/slash Peter Wolfgang, and to our website, ctfamily.org. | ||
| That's Family Institute of Connecticut. | ||
| Peter Wolfgang, very grateful that you took the time out to come out and share your analysis with the war imposter. | ||
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Muslims Traveling to Cologne
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| Take care now. | ||
| God bless. | ||
| Folks, stand by for Beatrix von Storck, who will be here on the war room in 30 seconds time. | ||
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| Well, it's my great honor to bring onto the show now Beatrix von Storck, the deputy leader of the alternative for Deutschland, the AFD. | ||
| I know you're very busy, Beatrix, and you've come out of a meeting and you're going to go back into one. | ||
| But I was very, very keen to have you on the show. | ||
| And I don't think I've interviewed you on the war room since a year ago when Steve was in prison. | ||
| And so we do have a lot to catch up with. | ||
| I did want to speak to you because the US Under Secretary of State Sarah Rogers tweeted out something that you had said 10 years ago with regards to the present political environment. | ||
| And I wanted your take on this. | ||
| I want to know from you what difference you're starting to see in Germany with regards to your own domestic persecution of the state against the AFD. | ||
| What difference you're starting to feel now on the ground with the fact that President Trump has been one year since he was inaugurated. | ||
| Before we do that, let's go through historically the situation that we're going to talk about now and play this short video and then we'll talk about your reaction to it. | ||
| So here was an Islamic theologian um, who basically said literally you heard her there, the subtitles were, who will say that it is legitimate for Muslims conquerors, to to take women as prisoners and then to rape them. | ||
| Yet, when you said almost, what, eight years ago, little more than that, on January the 2nd, I think it was, 2018, when you said that Muslims were rapist hordes entering Europe, | ||
| you were the state authorities, I mean, I know they dropped, I think, the case a couple of weeks afterwards, but they opened immediate prosecution against you on hate crime grounds. | ||
| You were banned on Facebook, you were banned on, or they took your post down on Facebook, you were provisionally banned on Twitter. | ||
| That just indicates how much times have changed over recent years. | ||
| Just tell us your perspective. | ||
| Because of course, the AFD is on like 25-30% in the polls now in Germany and it's doing very, very well. | ||
| Eight years ago, it was a very different situation. | ||
| And it took a lot of courage to come out here and say what you said. | ||
| Just tell us a bit about what happened then and what's happening now. | ||
| Okay, perfect. | ||
| So I think one has to start with the context of the tweet I made at that very day. | ||
| That was New Year's morning. | ||
| I think it was 1st or 2nd of January. | ||
| I think it was 1st. | ||
| Or even the 31st of December. | ||
| So it was at the very moment when everyone was about heading to celebrate New Year's. | ||
| And we in Germany had experienced a disaster a year ago at New Year's because we had hundreds of Muslims celebrating in Cologne, surrounding women, almost raping, you know, sexually go after them and, you know, being violent and everything. | ||
| It was a huge disaster the year before. | ||
| And then the next year, so from 2017, the night to 2018, the same thing was about to happen again. | ||
| So lots of Muslims from all over the place were traveling in trains towards Cologne because they wanted to celebrate again, because they very much enjoyed what they did the year before. | ||
| And at the very moment, when all those Muslims were traveling in trains towards Cologne, the police made sure that they did not reach Cologne. | ||
| So they picked them out of the trains because they perfectly knew what was their plan. | ||
| And so, and at the same time, while those Muslims were taken out of the trains to not enter Cologne, at the very moment, the police in Cologne and the region were sending out New Year's wishes on Arab language. | ||
| So wishing you all the best for the new year and hope you enjoy the night and have a nice party, something likewise in Arab. | ||
| So they were addressing those whom they at the same minute were trying to not have this party again and to make sure that it did not happen again in Cologne. | ||
| And so I just made a statement on this and I was kind of strongly asking myself, putting it out on Axe, then Twitter back then, asking why the hell is the police addressing those sex offenders who in hundreds were trying to reach Cologne? | ||
| Why are they addressing them in Arab language and wishing them all the best for the new year? | ||
| They should have sent out a different message, like don't even try, don't even, how do you dare to go to Cologne? | ||
| Just go back wherever you are, but don't even try to get there. | ||
| And that was, so there was a perfect context for this comment. | ||
| And then, I mean, then the whole, you know, jetstorm started and the legal process came in process. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But you were vindicated, because we just played the video clip of the Muslim scholar, of the Islamic scholar. | ||
| And there, that was afterwards, right? | ||
| But she was saying exactly what you had said in your tweet. | ||
| And that's perhaps where things would have left had it not been for the fact that there is something going on now with the US administration that is really starting to take seriously to the political persecution of the right now. | ||
| We heard JD Vancy's speech to Munich at the Defense Conference a year ago. | ||
| We've seen the same thing repeated in the United States strategic security document of a couple of weeks ago, always underlying the point that the immigration here in continental Europe is undermining America's allies' ability to be allies to the United States. | ||
| Specifically, Denver, if you wouldn't mind putting up that tweet now on the screen, and we'll just talk about this. | ||
| What we saw, I think, a couple of days ago here, is the Under Secretary of State for Public Diplomacy, I think, Sarah Rogers, quoting you and attaching that, the headline there that you can see from the Muslim Scholar. | ||
| This sort of thing, this sort of support from the White House, from an American administration, would have been unthinkable back in 2018. | ||
| Tell me, if you will, because the AFD has already been registered by the German security services as I think a domestic terrorist threat. | ||
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| I want to know what, how American interest in the domestic German political situation is starting to make a difference in your favour. | ||
| That's really where I'd like to know now because the administration is really starting to answer many people's press. | ||
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| Beatrix, tell me how is American interest making a difference now for the AFD in Germany? | ||
| Well, this has a heavy impact on what has been done by the administration and what has been done by Elon Musk, one must say, because at that time I was forced to delete my tweet on Twitter to have access to my account again. | ||
| And I was pursued. | ||
| So there were critical complaints to possible incitement to hatred. | ||
| They have been filed with the Cologne Public Prosecutor's Office. | ||
| So there was a huge press echo and everything. | ||
| I was forced to put that tweet down and so forth. | ||
| So this has not changed. | ||
| So first of all, on X, we have the free speech back. | ||
| Now they are trying to go after X, of course, but still it has gotten much better than ever since. | ||
| And of course, every move the US administration is doing is helping us. | ||
| At least those globalist elites, they start to understand that they have a heavy enemy in their fight to take down free speech. | ||
| I think the US national security strategy puts it out very clearly, crystal clear, I would say, that free speech is essential to democracy and that the United States is only willing also to protect allies when they stick to the same values. | ||
| And democracy and free speech is a center value we should all share. | ||
| And so this has kind of an impact for us. | ||
| It's very, very important. | ||
| But of course, still our legal forces are going against us. | ||
| You know, we are brought to court still for calling our minister for economy an idiot. | ||
| So then they will come, they will search your house, they will confiscate your iPhone or whatsoever, your computer. | ||
| It's still a disaster, but it's very helpful what's coming from abroad the ocean. | ||
| Can you tell me what, you know, I guess you're going to be right at the center of these moves as deputy leader. | ||
| Can you tell me what the present state of play is with regards to the debate about finally eliminating the Cordon Sanitaire, which blocks the AFD from participating in coalition governments? | ||
| You did mention, I think you were picked up in the Washington Post, you did mention that if you aren't banned, if AFD isn't banned, you will eventually have to be involved because there simply won't be any other majorities. | ||
| Tell me, I know that I have started to pick out, in fact, we covered this on the show last Friday, that there are soundings now coming out from the CDU itself. | ||
| Some people are coming out and saying that this Cordon Sanitaire not only hasn't worked, it's actually made the AFD more popular with people. | ||
| What is the current state of play there? | ||
| Well, I would say there are different levels of issues you can start off with. | ||
| So first of all, of course, everyone basically publicly is saying, well, we will stick to the firewall, the Cordon Sanitaire, it will never be given up. | ||
| But we know this on the regional level or on the local level already is not functioning, is already something else underway. | ||
| So on some local and some regional levels, we work together, at least we vote together, and we have an impact on policy. | ||
| On federal level, that's not yet the case. | ||
| But even here, they start to understand that it's impossible to block 25-27% of the voters out of policy. | ||
| And technically, it starts getting very difficult for them to form a government. | ||
| Because the Chancellor's Party and the Social Democrats usually, when they formed a government, it was called the Grand Coalition. | ||
| They had something like 50 or 60% altogether. | ||
| Now, it does not even, they do not even reach 50%. | ||
| So even the two biggest, former biggest party, they do not manage to form a government because they are not reaching 50% of the members of parliament after election. | ||
| That would be the case if we would have an election right now. | ||
| And so they start to understand that they might need us or the far left to form a government. | ||
| And so they are stuck behind the firewall or basically the firewalls protecting the far left. | ||
| and the left and the social democrats to stay in power because without the firewall there would be a good majority with the Christian Democrats and the AFD and then to have a center-right government. | ||
| So the firewall protects the lefties from losing the power because they basically have lost the power within the electorate. | ||
| So people don't, they are just tired of left policy because it doesn't work. | ||
| You see, this is how quickly time flies. | ||
| We only have three minutes now. | ||
| But I do want to ask you about your recent statement that you thought that this government is going to last until 2029. | ||
| You said you think it's going to collapse this year in 2026. | ||
| Just tell me how is how has Friedrich Mertz become so unpopular so quickly? | ||
| I would say he has been unpopular from the very beginning. | ||
| But he was campaigning on issues like inner security, we'll save the borders, we will deport all those illegal aliens who are in Germany and we will be very tough also on bureaucracy and on criminals and everything. | ||
| And then he went into government with the Social Democrats, so with a lefty party, and he couldn't deliver anything of it, anything at all when it comes to economy, even less. | ||
| And so people are frustrated. | ||
| So some were still voting for CDU. | ||
| They were wishing that something would get better, but it got worse. | ||
| And even some former Social Democrats are disappointed because they realize that what they are presenting as the solution is not a solution. | ||
| It makes every problem even worse. | ||
| And so they just start to realize that it isn't functioning. | ||
| Our industry is dropping. | ||
| It's not slightly going down. | ||
| It's dropping. | ||
| And this has been said by the head of the German industry chamber. | ||
| So it's really a very dangerous situation we are in. | ||
| And they have no solution to come up with. | ||
| And this is the reason why AFD now is the strongest in several polls in overall of Germany and by far the number one in the east of Germany by 40%. | ||
| Could you just give me 30 seconds on how Friedrich Mertz's plan to reintroduce conscription is going down with German youth right now in order to fight Vladimir Putin and defend Zelensky? | ||
| How is that going down right now? | ||
| Well, people start to understand that it's ridiculous to try to save the world, to try to save Ukraine and build up Gaza and save the climate and whatsoever. | ||
| While economy is declining, so we don't have money to even equip our army properly. | ||
| People start to understand that going into debt for the rest of the world doesn't serve our people. | ||
| And this is again another reason why I think this government is fading away. | ||
| On the way out. | ||
| Folks, you just heard it from Beatrice von Storf, deputy leader of the AFD. | ||
| In eastern Germany, the AFD is now polling at 40%. | ||
| I think Margaret Thatcher formed her third government in the UK on about 43%. | ||
| These are huge statistics to be aiming for in a proportional representation system. | ||
| Very quickly, Beatrix, where do people go on social media to keep up with your work and to support what you're doing? | ||
| On any platform, and just search for Beatrix Runstein. | ||
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| There you will find me. | ||
| Great, there you go. | ||
| You can see the Twitter account there. | ||
| That's all we have time for. | ||
| I hope you'll come back at some point, Beatrix. | ||
| Give us an update. | ||
| World War will be back at 10 o'clock tomorrow. | ||
| I want to thank Will and his crack team in Denver, Real America's Voice, and of course, our producer, Cameron Wallace, and Victorio Santi Franco, who worked tirelessly this week to put this show together. | ||
| I'll be back next Wednesday, God willing. | ||