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Jan. 24, 2026 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 5091: CHD Hits AAP With RICO Suit; Massive Snow Storms Engulf The East Coast

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Participants
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brian simpson
05:24
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carrie gress
07:03
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steve bannon
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Appearances
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brett adair
02:59
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dave brat
04:59
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erik fox
02:58
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mary holland
04:50
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mike lindell
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Clips
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albert bourla
00:14
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david crow
wsj 00:17
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jake tapper
cnn 00:10
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mike waltz
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Speaker Time Text
People Have Had Enough 00:14:18
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
Here's not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you're going to like hearing that.
I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
MAGA Media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
steve bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
It's Friday, 23 January, Year of the Lord, 2026.
Welcome.
We're not going to do a cold open today because we've got so much to get through.
We're packed in this hour.
Dave Brett joins me as my wingman for this.
Dave, we're going to have the Weather Nation guys on here in a while talk about the weather because that's maybe the most important story of this weekend and into early next week.
But Dave, I noticed that the Jack Smith thing was such a failure that the mainstream media kind of backed off of this day.
And they're totally focused on this little boy in Minnesota thinking that that's going to divert attention away from the mass deportations and divert attention away from Insurrection Act and insurrection.
You saw they did roll up, Dave, at least three of the 20, but look like three of the ringleaders that essentially barged into a Christian service, terrorized the families, terrorized the parishioners, and then threatened, threatened the pastor because he had some sort of role in ICE.
This is their new tactic.
They think they're going to back all the Christians off of any support of President Trump on the deportations.
Let me just repeat this.
We're getting mass deportations.
All 15 million of the illegal aliens that came here that Biden structured, financed, executed, implemented, exacerbated the invasion of our country, the biggest act of treason that ever happened and left us to deal with it.
We're going to deal with it because they're all going home and you can blow your whistles all you want.
You can take your cars and put them around.
You can do anything you want.
You can tear your hair up, but they're all going home because your business model is totally corrupt.
You're stealing from the American people.
You're stealing from American citizens to pay for this, for the destruction of the country.
No, thank you.
You think you're going to transform the country?
Well, natural evolution and transformation, maybe because America is always going forward, always going next level, but we're not doing your way, which is to turn us into a third world hell hole.
Dave Bratt, your thoughts?
dave brat
Yeah, well, I thought your show yesterday really hit the bullseye with Peter Schweitzer.
I mean, you call me a Puritan pilgrim, you know, dour guy or whatever.
That guy, there's no more innocent truth teller than that guy.
You can just look at that guy's face.
I don't know whether he's Protestant or Catholic or whatnot, but I'm friends with him.
I've met him over the years.
I consider him a national treasure.
It's not just immigration.
It's not just cheap wages.
It's a conspiracy of the Mexican government and elites.
And the rest of the world's in on it.
The Davos thing president just stood up to all that and gave them a clarion call.
And so, yeah, mass deportations is back on the table because the evidence and the receipts are all coming in.
And then I'm glad DC, the church invasion, that symbolically, there's nothing worse.
And the left saying there's First Amendment grounds for an attack on a church.
We need massive arrests, more than three.
I applaud ICE and all of our agents.
The Congress is still missing.
unidentified
They're AWOL.
dave brat
They need to put E-Verify in tomorrow, and they need to cut off all benefits tomorrow as well.
If you do those two things, you're going to take away the biggest incentives, right?
Economics is all incentives.
And you take away the incentives, and folks are going to self-deport massively as well once we shut off the free money that the American taxpayer is paying for.
That's the new thing.
Illegal immigration is one thing, but the taxpayer paying for it is another.
steve bannon
Yeah.
President Trump said it's going to happen on February 1st.
Let me just give you an update.
In Nevada, these radical judges just had a federal judge ordered the release of a convicted MS-13 murderer that ICE had rounded up on some technicality.
DOJ vows to seek further review.
This is what we're dealing with.
This is an outright insurrection from the media class, from the progressives who are all traitors.
They're all traitors.
If you support this, you're a traitor.
You're an outright traitor.
This is an invasion of our country.
And I guess we're going to have to sort it out, but it's going to get sorted out.
All 15 million.
Some people say 25.
It's 25, all 25.
I'm just sorry.
They have children.
You don't want to break up the family.
So guess what?
Adios, everybody got to go.
Peter Schweitzer, read it.
The Mexican government's been involved in this up to their eyeballs.
This just didn't kind of happen.
This has been the collusion.
And we got to get into the emails and text messages and conversations and meetings with the 53 consulates in the United States of America and the Biden regime and the permanent government.
It's outrageous.
Let me bring in Mary Holland.
So Mary, first question, I've got a clip on the play in a second.
The WHO, correct me if I'm wrong, yesterday was the one year from signing the executive order to get us out.
Are we, to your knowledge, are we technically out of the WHO?
mary holland
We are technically out of the WHO.
So when President Trump came into office, he declared that we would be leaving.
It's a year-long process, and we formally left the WHO yesterday, January 22nd, 2026.
And that's a really important big step because the WHO, especially during COVID, just was in lies up to its ears.
They have done nothing to remedy those lies.
They have people in charge who absolutely are untrustworthy.
And so I personally am very grateful we're no longer in the WHO.
steve bannon
We'll have more on that.
I think next week I'm going to have a special and bring a bunch of people in and talk about what that means in the way forward.
But what I love about children's health offense and Mary Holland in particular, you will go on offense in a New York second.
So you're now on offense.
Let me play this little clip and then I'm going to come back to you about children's health offenses on offense on vaccines, not just playing defense, on offense.
Let's go ahead and let it rip.
albert bourla
It's a different world when you start discussing vaccines.
unidentified
There is almost like a religion there.
albert bourla
So I'm very concerned, very frustrated with that.
unidentified
But I continue engaging.
albert bourla
And we have, as I said, a very strong and respectful both ways relationship.
mary holland
And we can talk about that.
david crow
So sort of discuss the things that you can get agreements on and park the issues that you kind of fundamentally disagree on.
Works for a while, but it's not a sort of sustainable kind of thing for years to come.
Something has to change, no?
unidentified
The Secretary of Health.
Yes.
steve bannon
Okay, Bobby Kennedy is changing everything about vaccines, Mary.
Tell me, you've had a big development at children's health offense.
You actually dropped a big lawsuit the other day.
Why did you do that?
mary holland
Yeah, well, just I just want to say on a poor Albert, but you know, the religion of vaccines is not Bobby Kennedy's or ours.
The religion of vaccines has been of the vaccine manufacturers and the fact that they're treated completely differently than drugs.
So we dropped a lawsuit against the American Academy of Pediatrics on Wednesday, and we are suing the American Academy under a racketeering federal statute in the DC district court.
And we're alleging that the American Academy of Pediatrics, which is the goal, you know, standard for pediatricians and for the vaccine schedule for children, we're alleging that they have been knowingly lying for decades about the safety of the entire schedule.
The two top plaintiffs on our case are parents who took their young children for routine vaccinations and these twins and another little girl, they died, Steve, right after their vaccinations.
And the insult and injury of the top plaintiff, Ms. Shaw, is that she's under criminal investigation for killing her twins when, in fact, the medical establishment documented that it was vaccine injury.
So this is what the lies do.
When you say the schedule has been fully tested and they're safe and effective and they save lives and there's never any downside, this is what happens is that doctors don't know how to treat vaccine injury.
People don't know what it is.
And literally children die from it.
Two of the other plaintiffs are also pediatricians who, when they actually looked at vaccinated versus unvaccinated health outcomes, they were exiled from the profession.
You can't do that because we all know that vaccines are magic.
They're not like other medicines that have pros and cons.
Vaccines are safe for everybody and they all have to follow a schedule.
So we're going against that.
We want them to declare that what they've said was wrong and we want them to publish that in all of their documents so that people understand that the schedule has never been properly tested.
steve bannon
What I love about you and Children's Health Defense, you went after them on a racketeering statute.
Tell me about it.
You went after the American Academy of Pediatrics basically for racketeering.
mary holland
Okay, let me explain why that is, Steve, because this is really the same racket that the tobacco industry did.
In fact, it's actually even more extreme than what tobacco did.
So we're basing this lawsuit largely on a case that was brought against Philip Morris.
And in those days, there was a tobacco research institute that sort of had this scientific patina.
It had this scientific kind of gloss on what was naked lies of the cigarette manufacturers, the tobacco industry.
And it's really the same thing here.
AAP gives this scientific medical white-coated gloss to the fact that these people are out to make money.
This is a medical trade organization that really doesn't care about the health of your child.
They really care about the bottom line of the pharmaceutical industry and putting out every vaccine that's possible, adding it to the schedule, saying it's been perfectly safety tested when that's a lie.
steve bannon
A big part of this, I take it, would be discovery if this suit goes forward.
A discovery, what do you anticipate to find in discovery?
mary holland
I would anticipate, much like in the tobacco cases, Steve, we would see the memos where they know these products are very dangerous.
They know the children who are vulnerable.
They know what shouldn't be happening.
But one of the things even before Discovery that's very important is that on February 13th, there will be a hearing in a federal district court in Boston where the AAP is bringing a lawsuit against Bobby Kennedy as the Secretary of Health and Human Services, alleging that everything that he's done so far violates the law and should be turned back.
And so I'm very happy that the timing is in the same news cycle so that at least people are aware the AAP may not be all that they are making themselves out to be, the carriers of children's health.
I think this complaint, if people read it, will really open their eyes to the reality of what the AAP has been doing for a long time.
steve bannon
People tell me that in the lobbyist community, people have followed this, say that Kennedy and you and these other grassroots organizations have really rattled big pharma.
They never envisioned at all that President Trump would actually be intellectually engaged in this.
And clearly, it's touched his heart somewhat that he's down for the fight.
I don't think they anticipated that, ma'am.
mary holland
I think you're right about that, Steve.
But I think it's Albert Borla, who's the one who's engaged in religion.
There's not a single vaccine on the childhood schedule that's ever been properly tested against a true inert placebo.
I mean, that's extraordinary, but it's the truth.
They're not treated like drugs.
And then the manufacturers have this incredible liability shield.
That's just the truth.
They're treated in this very special category.
And President Trump is a very common sense guy, and he gets it.
steve bannon
Mary, where can people go to see?
You've got content up all the time.
You're writing articles.
I particularly want them to get a breakdown of this lawsuit so we can follow it closely, which we will.
Where do they go?
mary holland
Come to children'shealthdefense.org.
We'll have it up on the landing page.
steve bannon
Ma'am, thank you very much.
Do you have social media?
Do you have a Twitter feed?
mary holland
Yep, Mary Holland NYC on X. Thank you, ma'am.
Thank you.
steve bannon
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Short break.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Cape Dave Bratt's with me writing shotgun.
Dave, as you know, there is a big event, a natural event that is occurring even as we speak.
I want to go to Jesse Kelly, meteorologist over at Weather Nation.
Jesse, can you walk us through what's actually happening here?
Because as you know, a place like the Daily Mail and others, their hair is on fire.
They're running around.
So we turn to Weather Nation to get the basic facts of what's happening, sir.
brian simpson
Yeah, so right now, the Venazar is starting to take place right now across areas of Texas and Oklahoma.
Starting to see some rain, starting to see a mixture of sleet and freezing rain.
We'll gradually see some of this wintry mix transition to more snow across Oklahoma.
They're going to see everything just spread towards the east throughout the evening and overnight hours.
And we're looking at two rounds of precipitation.
And we're going to be looking at some big time impacts, especially in these areas and these counties where we're looking at these dark purple counties.
So of East Texas, most of Louisiana, north central Mississippi, and then also with that coal air damming event affecting areas like Atlanta, Columbia, South Carolina, Charlotte.
So again, these areas in the dark purple, we can see ice accretion, maybe up to one inch thick, if not higher than that.
So basically, what that means, you can expect widespread power allergies.
Travel will be impossible.
So if you live near the I-20 corridor, the I-85 corridor, especially in these areas where we have those ice storm warnings, make sure that you are prepared for where you are right now.
You're going to be there for a couple of days.
Power allergies will be likely as you get further up to the north into areas like Kansas, Missouri, St. Louis, even out towards the northeast.
We're looking at basically all snow.
And some of this snow could be rather heavy as we go into this weekend.
Here's the first round of snow to the north, sleet, freezing rain in this pink.
Down south may see a few thunderstorms for Houston as that travels off towards the east.
We're also going to see a warm nose.
So you got some warmer air from the Gulf that may keep Alabama for the most part protected from winter precipitation.
Maybe the northern part of the state could see some freezing rain, but for areas like Birmingham, Montgomery, it may be too warm for freezing rain.
So we're going to get just a cold rain.
That'll work its way over towards Georgia, but again, across the I-885 corridor, it will be very dicey to travel, if not impossible because of all the ice.
Here comes the second round of more snow and ice across Oklahoma into Texas.
All of this will work its way out into Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Maryland, D.C. We'll see snow, maybe transition over to maybe a mix.
And then here across the Gulf Coast for Sunday afternoon, we may see a few severe thunderstorms.
So we've got a lot of hazards at play over the next couple of days.
And then once all this precipitation comes to an end, it's still going to remain very cold here for a lot of us across the south.
So we want to continue to reiterate the point of once all the ice and the snow and the sleet come to an end, what's on the ground is going to stay on the ground for a lot of us here until at least middle part of next week, especially across the south, once temperatures will get above freezing and anywhere from OKC, let's say Fort Smith, Fayetteville, Arkansas, all the way up into areas like New York City, Boston, Hartford.
We could be seeing snowfall amounts potentially over a foot plus.
Further south across areas of Texas, Louisiana, and again across the I-85 corridor between Atlanta and Charlotte, we can see the potential of maybe an inch of ice and that it's going to be a very crippling storm.
So it's very important for everyone to be off the roads and stay home during this event.
Here's my last point: a lot of coal alerts are in place.
It's very cold up north, and all this gold are continuing to sink more to the south over the next couple of days.
So it's going to be a very cold couple days here, not only for the north, but also down to the south.
It's going to keep all that snow on the ground, the least in the middle part of next week.
steve bannon
Jesse, is the reason this is kind of unique is that we've had this Arctic blast that's not just hitting Minnesota and the northern states like sometimes it does, but it's all the way coming through the middle Atlantic down into areas of the south.
At the same time, you've got moist, warm rain coming out of the Gulf of America and other places, maybe Baja coming across.
Is that what makes it so dangerous for so many emergencies in states and people prepping?
You got a cold blast coming down from the north pretty deep into the country, coupled with this moist air and this rain and participation coming across from the Gulf of America and from other places south?
unidentified
Yeah, you basically nailed it.
brian simpson
So yeah, we have this Arctic blast coming in out of Canada and we have a disturbance that came out of California a couple days ago.
We got all this moisture coming out of the Gulf.
So basically, as all this colder air meets up with all this moisture, that's why we're looking at a big-time event.
But these temperatures, though, they are very critical on your precipitation type.
Now, obviously, the further north, you get up into areas like Illinois, Indiana, to Ohio, and to the northeast, it's going to be a slam dunk shot of all snow.
But as you get further down to the south, yes, temperatures at the surface, yeah, they're below freezing.
But as that moisture from the Gulf is coming up to the north, there's a warmer air about 4,000 or 5,000 feet, which is allowing for rain basically to fall in a shallow, cold air at the surface.
That's where we're going to see an ice mess for a lot of us across the south.
And of course, you're seeing this much ice that the forecast is suggesting.
Obviously, travel is going to be dangerous, if not possible, if not impossible rather, for a couple of days.
steve bannon
Jesse, you said also there's going to be two shots.
This kind of coming out of Texas, Oklahoma, there's going to be two shots.
Right now, as you see it, the first shot commences when, and the second shot commences when.
brian simpson
So, the first round of precipitation we're seeing right now, that's round one starting to take place right now across areas of Texas and Oklahoma.
unidentified
So, that's the first round.
brian simpson
That will begin to move into areas like Dallas later on tonight.
That will work its way towards Little Rock after midnight, and then eventually work its way out into the southeast into the Ohio Valley as we head towards Saturday afternoon, Saturday evening.
This will move off the Atlantic coast by Sunday morning.
But notice, though, there's more energy coming out of Mexico, more snow, more sleet.
And then, this, in my opinion, feels this is going to be a stronger push of moisture, more stronger dynamics.
And this is also going to allow for some severe weather down towards the south across the Gulf Coast.
We could see some damaging winds, maybe some hail, heavy rain also could be a concern.
So, there's a lot of facets here when it comes to this forecast that we're going to keep a close eye on from Texas all the way out towards the East Coast.
steve bannon
Jesse, I want everybody to download the Weather Nation app, Weather Nation's all-one word Weather Nation app now.
You get real-time alerts, live radar, non-stop updates, and real weather 24 hours a day.
So, download the Weather Nation app.
Jesse Kelly, any social media?
How do people track you, sir?
brian simpson
I'm on X at Jesse Kelly WX, also on Facebook at Meteorologist Jesse Kelly.
steve bannon
I shouldn't know all this stuff, Jesse.
Thank you so much.
Great.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
Appreciate you.
Eric Fox, is Eric Fox with us?
Eric Fox.
Tell me about Texas.
Tell me Texas, Oklahoma.
Is this, you know, Dave Bratz?
Dave, I think you're looking at 18, potentially 18 inches in the center of Virginia and God's country, right?
How bad is this going to be, Eric, as it comes up through Texas, Oklahoma, through the south, through the mid-Atlantic into Virginia, sir?
erik fox
Well, it's definitely starting here in Texas already.
I'm in the northern part of Texas, Wichita Falls, and I'm going to turn here.
The side of my truck is already solid ice.
And you can see it on the windows.
And it's only been probably five or 10 minutes worth of a lot of ice coming down, freezing rain mixed with sleet.
So it's already starting.
It's already been like five, ten minutes worth of heavy precip.
And it's going to continue to be that way, of course, for several days, just like Jesse was saying.
steve bannon
Eric, they've already called for many of these states have already said, hey, we're in a state of emergency.
Walk me through how that works in the great state of Texas.
erik fox
Yeah, so Governor Abbott has already declared a state of an emergency for the state, for the entire state.
And actually, I was in an emergency briefing with where I'm a police officer in Burke Burnett, and they had meetings where they can get funding already from the state.
They're preparing themselves to for the worst case scenario.
The worst case scenario is losing that power due to this ice.
And so they're planning on what happens if we lose power.
What happens if we get 16 inches of snow?
You know, the road waste.
What do we do with the people?
How do we keep them warm?
So all those plans start at the state level and then work their way down to county and municipalities.
And those plans are underway.
Of course, FEMA's involved with that as well at the state level.
So all those preparations have already happened.
And now the storm's here.
It's just, you know, wait, prepare, try to keep the roadways clear and also try to keep the people warm.
I think the biggest story in this is going to be cold for Texas.
I mean, you're talking record-breaking cold all the way through Monday into Tuesday.
So you're going to have a lot of people in harm's way just from the cold.
steve bannon
Eric, we've had Dave Walsh on here for years debating this whole concept about the Texas grid.
I know the ice is coming in, but is the grid itself is a concern about the grid being able to actually operate here given the ice?
erik fox
I believe there's a lot of lessons learned that happened over the last few years over the last big outage.
And I know there's been a lot of preparation preparing their grid.
So far, the state's going out, they think they can handle it.
I believe they can handle it.
This is a little bit different situation where you're not going two plus weeks really, really, really below zero.
You're talking more four or five days.
So I believe this grid is going to be able to maintain itself.
And that's just the state really preparing itself for these events like this.
Of course, we know the windmills have been treated.
The coal plants are at full capacity.
So we should be okay as long as we don't have anything that we don't know about happen, which could be weather.
Weather changes.
Models are not always 100%.
But from what we're seeing, they should be able to handle it.
The best thing you can do is prepare.
Make sure that you have your generators.
You have your electrical cords ran.
Make sure those generators are outside.
Make sure that any safety precautions, don't get out, don't get on these roadways you don't have to.
I can already see a glaze of ice on these roadways.
And it's only been, you know, 20 minutes.
So just stay indoors, prepare yourself and, you know, have your blankets and keep everybody warm.
steve bannon
Download the Weather Nation app right now.
You get updates.
You get all of it.
Eric, your social media, where do people get you, Eric Fox?
erik fox
Yeah, Eric Fox with a K2000, E-R-IK F-OX 2000.
steve bannon
You stay safe.
Let's hope those power lines hang in there.
They grid, they've done a valid work for Eric Fox.
Thank you so much.
Look for you for updates tonight and tomorrow.
Thank you, sir.
Wow.
Already started.
He said the first five minutes of this thing.
Look at that ice right there.
Be careful.
Only going out if you have to.
Watch that black ice.
Okay, short commercial break.
We're going to talk to March for Life was a day.
Poso's telling me, and this was kind of limited media, right?
They had over 100,000 young people out there today.
Pretty bitter cold in Washington, D.C. Short commercial break.
We'll be back with Dave Brat in a moment.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
steve bannon
Dave Bratt, you're always one of those, you're always one of those Boy Scout types.
Be prepared, right?
You're like my Patriot Supply, always thinking downrange.
Are you now?
I understand that Lynchburg, they're talking about Lynchburg maybe getting up to 18 inches potentially with bitter cold and ice.
What's your sense of things there?
dave brat
Well, I don't hype these kind of things.
I'm a Calvinist.
We don't get too emotional on much, but I think this is going to be a severe story.
Everyone's saying it's a catastrophic ice event.
The snow doesn't matter.
And your Jesse Kelly brought up a term in passing that I looked up because I'm like, how in the world can it be this brutally cold up in the atmosphere and it's snow?
And then down here, it's brutally cold.
So how in the world are we getting to sleep?
Well, there's this thing called a warm nose.
And he said it five to 10,000 feet up.
There's this middle range where it comes, it's snow up there.
It comes down through this middle range.
It's warm from this, you know, the southern air that's flowing up from the south.
And then it turns into sleet up there.
And then it hits the cold and freezes and comes down.
You just saw it five, five minutes in down in Texas.
And that's the part.
So the more worrying part for us in our area is 0.9 or one inch of ice.
Never heard of that, right?
That's the catastrophe.
And it's going to hit 230 million people.
Two-thirds of the American people are going to get hit with this because it's a seaboard and it's the population centers.
And so, and then to make matters worse, the high is only below 20s.
It's 20s all week.
It doesn't hit 29 till 30, till Thursday and 33 on Friday.
And so when does the ice go?
So this, you know, take care.
The bottom line here is think through the senior folks in your life, the people in your church, the folks that you know need a backup plan.
Chuck in on them.
That's the important part here.
Churches, this is your time to be relevant and love people and that that will draw people to the church.
If we do what we're supposed to do, that's a huge thing we can all do for each other right now.
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steve bannon
Yeah.
You guys should know.
We travel with Eric Fox a lot.
He's a very safe pair of hands and a great meteorologist.
And he, when he says, hey, this thing just started, we're already getting this type of ice in Texas.
It's time to be careful.
I want to thank Jesse Kelly and Eric and Weather Nation.
Download the app.
Okay, but we're actually going to go to Mississippi.
Northern Mississippi is being hit hard.
We're going to go there in the next block.
I want to introduce Carrie Gress.
Kerry, you're an author.
You're over at, I think, Theology of the Home, a website or one of these online magazines, but you've written a great book called The End of the Patriarchy, right?
Here's what you're called.
You had 100,000 young people.
unidentified
It's called the end of the day.
steve bannon
You had 100,000 young people turn out today.
And Charlie Kirk, the Charlie Kirk team was there.
We had Hawkins on.
She was amazing.
Jack Besobic's out there.
The question is, is that Roe v. Wade's over, and I know they got some state issues, but where's the energy come from?
Didn't you guys slay the dragon?
Isn't the dragon slayed and we can move on to the next thing?
Are you still concerned that the dragon's not slayed yet?
carrie gress
Yeah, no, I think we thought the dragon was Roe, but that was Roe was not the dragon.
The dragon, I really think, is actually feminism.
I think the march still has some incredible energy because people go there and they finally have this experience of feeling like I'm not alone.
You know, I've got other people to support me.
And there's just this incredible amount of energy and invigoration that comes from it.
But really, until we get to the heart of what the issue is, what's feeding abortion, we're just not going to be able to end it.
And that's really feminism.
And I think for a long time, Christians have tried to make it work, you know, feminism work with Christianity.
And the fruit has really just been awful or mediocre.
You know, we haven't actually seen any real success of this, especially on the abortion front.
So I think that's what we need to be looking at now, the true engine of what's creating these 3,000 abortions a day in the United States.
steve bannon
When we see, is feminism what we're seeing in part of it in Minneapolis, particularly they call it awful now, what angry white, female, angry white, female urban liberals.
Is that what we're seeing?
Because these are the vanguard of this insurrection here in the United States.
Is that modern feminism?
carrie gress
Yeah, I mean, I think it's old feminism too.
I think this is the amazing thing: people have thought that feminism was this thing that was just there to help women.
But if you really dig into it, which I do actually in my new book called Something Wicked, the whole goal of feminism was to get rid of Christianity, to really create this revolution.
Women, the early feminists thought that Christianity was used by men to enslave women.
So, you know, you fast forward 200 years, and it shouldn't be a surprise that we're seeing this incredible rage because the rage was actually inculcated from the beginning because the feminists knew that if you got women angry, then they would be much more politically effective.
So, we see that just saturated in the feminist movement today.
And so, these are really the results of it.
When you confuse women enough and you tell them that their autonomy or the sense of misplaced compassion, that they can change things just by feeling compassionate about them instead of actually having to have results, this is what you're going to end up with, is exactly what we're seeing in Minneapolis.
steve bannon
Go back to the beginning.
You said feminism came about because it was an effort to end Christianity.
What do you mean by that?
When did that start?
And who was involved in that?
It was actually started to end Christianity.
carrie gress
Absolutely.
unidentified
Yeah.
carrie gress
This is the one thing that I think is really fascinating.
As a conservative, I always thought, okay, the first wave was good, and the second wave is really where things went off the rails.
And when you actually go back and look at what the issues were, Elizabeth Cady Stanton was a staunchly, staunchly anti-Christian woman.
She and Susan B. Anthony, who ended up becoming an atheist, started this newspaper called The Revolution.
They also wrote this book with another woman named Matilda Gage, who was actually the mother-in-law of L. Frank Baum, who ended up writing The Wicked Wizard of Oz.
But he was heavily influenced by his mother-in-law, who was a witch, and taught him all about good witchcraft, bad witchcraft, which you obviously see in that, in that film and in the book.
And then The Wizard is actually supposed to be a model of the patriarch and this idea of how do we take the patriarch down and really have this kind of godless egalitarianism.
So that was very, very early on in the feminist movement.
steve bannon
Is this what you're doing?
Tell me what your new book's about, Something Wicked.
carrie gress
Yeah, so something wicked.
The last book that I wrote was really more of a called The End of Woman.
It was really a philosophical look at how we got from Mary Wollstonecraft to the trans movement and just all the steps that it took and how we get the sexual revolution out of feminism, we get wokeism out of it.
But this latest book called Something Wicked is really about why feminism and Christianity just cannot be mixed.
I think we've been living under this false impression for a long time that the two can actually work.
But in fact, they can't.
They have very different DNA.
One's about power, the other one's about humility and surrender and following Christ.
steve bannon
Hang on, I'm a Catholic, and I know there is some aspect over there of something called Catholic feminism.
You're saying that that can't, is that not possible to work?
carrie gress
Well, so John Paul II talked about, he used the word feminism three times that we know of in his 26-year pontificate.
So it was hardly, you know, this resounding endorsement of feminism.
He has this really beautiful encyclical called Milieres Dignitatum, and he doesn't use the word feminism even once in that document.
So I think that if you, and if you also look at his work and you contrast it to what the feminists have done, it's totally opposite.
And it's actually a really beautiful and compelling blueprint that we could use for womanhood.
The problem is, though, that a lot of the Catholic feminists have now tried to fuse John Paul II's work with first wave feminists.
So women like Mary Wollstonecraft, Susan B. Anthony, some of the more colorful women that were clearly not Christian.
In fact, many were deeply involved in the cult or spiritualism.
Most people don't realize that Elizabeth Katie Stanton actually got the idea for the Seneca Falls Convention from the spirits because she was involved in the cult.
And that spirit table is still at the Smithsonian today.
So these things are deeply incompatible.
You can't just take these ideas that really blended and kind of grew up with socialism and communism and then try to marry them to these incredibly rich and beautiful ideas that John Paul II has that are deeply based in the tradition and in the Bible and what it is that we understand about human anthropology.
steve bannon
So are you arguing that the right to life movement, and particularly this new wave of young people that are coming in inspired by Charlie Kirk?
Are you saying it's not just focus on state laws or the today Hawkins was talking about this pill, but that you ought to shift your kind of gun sights if you want to do something real that you go after and take down feminism?
Is that your point?
carrie gress
Yeah, I think we have, you know, this is why we haven't had the kind of traction that you would expect.
You spend all this money, but we can't change minds because feminism has actually become a kind of religion for women.
Female autonomy is the idol.
It's got its own commandments, its own theological virtues, and abortion is the sacrament.
You have to have abortion in order for women to be autonomous because women have to work and they don't want to be encumbered by their children.
So until we start getting that in our sights and helping women really understand that not only is this an idol, but it's also something that is going to make you deeply unhappy.
And this is why we have so many unhappy women.
You know, we see it through all those metrics that tell us about happiness.
We also see this incredible fracturing of the family.
We see this in the deep divide between men and women in the culture today.
So yeah, I think we've got to start with what's fueling it.
And, you know, we've never seen abortion numbers in the world today throughout history.
And again, what's new?
Well, feminism is this new idea, this belief that somehow we can protect women from all their vulnerabilities and all the things that could possibly hurt them and kind of bubble wrap them in this idea of autonomy.
And they just need to have great careers and then they're going to be happy.
Well, you talk to enough 50, 60, 70-year-old women who end up at this place where they think this is not what I wanted with my life.
I didn't expect to be alone at this stage of my life.
But this is really where feminism is leading women.
And I think there's a lot of young people who are open to thinking about it differently now.
I think it's a harder sell among Gen X and certainly boomers.
But I have a lot of hope in young people being able to see their life differently and really start kind of seeing the way that feminism is self-destructive.
steve bannon
If people want to start to get their arms around your argument here, where do they get the book?
carrie gress
You certainly can get at Amazon.
You can get the publisher, SophiaInstitute.com.
If people want a signed copy, they can get it at my website called theologyofhome.com as well.
steve bannon
It's theology of home.
By the way, the Sophia Institute is one of the best publishers out there.
Quality books.
Do you have social media?
Where's a website?
Social media, where do people track you down?
Follow your writings.
carrie gress
Yeah, the best place is Instagram.
I'm Kerry Gress at Instagram.
And then Facebook.
I think I'm Carrie DotGress at Facebook.
steve bannon
Thank you, ma'am.
Thank you for joining us today.
unidentified
Appreciate it.
carrie gress
Thank you.
Thanks very much for having me.
steve bannon
Hey, Bratt, I think she's on to something, right?
There's got to be an answer.
No, no, it's got to be an answer to this thing in Minnesota.
I mean, we've got to have the Insurrection Act and shut the thing down.
But there's something, there's something not right about the anger coming from these women, right?
It's satanic, sir.
dave brat
Yeah, no, when she started describing it, you know, you and I, Marxism has seeped in across the board.
You know, at first, we got to have a little bit, little mix of socialism, you know, to help capitalism.
And, you know, if you're a good guy, you're certainly going to go along with that.
And that ends up in Mamdani.
And then, you know, the socialization of the family, the politics, you know, you don't want to be a nasty person.
You got to allow these illegals in.
mike waltz
It's mean not to.
dave brat
And then you get a border invasion and chaos and riots where they're taking on our law enforcement officials.
These are all just elements of the overall Marxist logic she was laying out.
And the great deceit in Marxism is that it's always the fault of the capitalist or the patriarchy or it's somebody.
And then there's this utopian notion that they're going to be the answer somehow, but they're never the answer.
And so the patriarchy somehow is responsible for giving the only country with minority rights across the board, for giving human rights language in the 1300s, for giving property rights, for giving the modern free market system, which is fed up a billion Indians and Chinese in the last 30 years.
So this nasty patriarchy, upon inspection, I don't think so.
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Brett Adams is north of Tupelo, Mississippi, and the area of the country is supposed to be hit the hardest.
I think come Saturday or Sunday.
Brett Adams, field Adair, sorry.
Brett Adair, your field meteorologist with a weather nation.
What do you got for us, sir?
brett adair
Yeah, we've got some increasing clouds and cooler temperatures filtering into the area today.
We made it into the 40s here, but we're starting to fall like a rock.
We're in the 30s now, and we'll approach freezing and get well below freezing later tonight.
I'm currently traveling westbound on the U.S. Highway 72 corridor north of Tunica or north of Tupelo, excuse me.
I'm near the community of Corinth.
We're going to move in the general direction of Memphis, but this entire corridor is in the line of fire for over one inch of freezing rain, possibly a couple of inches of sleet.
Looks like most of the snow is going to be back over Arkansas and northern Tennessee up into Missouri and Kentucky.
So this is the deadly stuff, though.
Freezing rain, when it accumulates on the roadways, especially in these areas where we don't have as much treatment in our area, like states to the north.
They're used to dealing with this on a regular basis.
This is not our cup of tea.
We see this once or twice every five to ten years.
So our roadways don't get a lot of that pre-treatment that some of those up to the north do.
So these roads are likely going to deal with issues very quickly.
Initially, we'll start seeing the bridges, the overpasses, the trees, the power lines that'll take on some of that ice accretion and accumulation as we go into specifically early tomorrow morning.
It looks like this area is going to start seeing impacts shortly after daybreak.
And that precip shield will expand throughout the day.
A lot of freezing rain to come through most of the day, Saturday into Saturday night, and even through Sunday.
And things will begin to clear out late Sunday from west to east.
But it's going to be a long period of frozen precipitation here.
So we're worried about, again, travel issues.
We're worried about power problems.
So if you guys have electric heat, make sure you got a generator.
Make sure you've got kerosene, propane.
Make sure you've got, you know, hot pans, all of those things that'll give you that heat and that potential for, you know, non-perishable food items.
So if you need some, you know, things to eat during the storm, because once the power goes out, if we get the ice that's projected across the area, it's going to be a while before it comes back up because power outages are going to be widespread all throughout the state of Mississippi, Louisiana, Tennessee, with what we're expecting is kind of a worst case scenario for this area, Steve.
steve bannon
Brett, I want everybody to download the Weather Nation app, how they follow you on social media, sir, because people are going to be tuned in for this 24-7 for the next couple of days.
brett adair
Well, meet your Brett Adair on Facebook, and that's going to be where I'm going to post most of my updates.
And you can obviously catch us on television and on our app at Weather Nation.
Myself, you've already talked to Eric Fox out in Texas where things are really beginning to get dicey.
We'll have several other correspondents out covering west to east from Texas all the way up into the northeast as this thing really kicks up over the weekend.
steve bannon
Brett Adair, thank you for joining us north of Tupelo.
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steve bannon
Want everybody to be safe there, man.
This ice could be supposed to be a massive ice event.
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate you.
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Yeah.
dave brat
No, Brett hit it right.
Unfortunately, this storm is hitting two-thirds of the country.
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steve bannon
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The South.
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Oklahoma, Texas, and the South.
We'll see you tomorrow morning.
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