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Dec. 9, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4984: Trump Calls Out Weakness In Europe; Political Christian Infiltration Of Evangelicals
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megan basham
11:53
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steve bannon
18:16
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ben harnwell
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brian glenn
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dave brat
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donald j trump
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mike lindell
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trevor comstock
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jake tapper
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steve bannon
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
Waru, here's your host, Stephen K. Bass.
steve bannon
It's Tuesday, 9 December at the year of our Lord, 2025.
Let's go right to the White House and Brian Glenn.
Brian talked to us.
The president does a pivot today.
Heads of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
He's taking his economic plan on the road.
Only, you know, he's the best salesman for everything Trump.
He's going there today to make the case.
unidentified
Give us a preview, sir.
brian glenn
Yeah, good morning, Steve.
He is leaving at about four o'clock here from Joint Base Andrews.
We're flying.
I'll be with the president on Air Force One, going to the Pocono area there in Pennsylvania, taking a helicopter to finally get to the Mount Airy Casino there.
Well, he will take his economic plan, a lot of the affordability talk going into next year.
Now, see, we all know that he inherited double-digit inflation from the Biden administration.
That's on every service, every good, every product.
We saw it take place over the three, four years in the Biden administration.
So President Trump is doing everything he can to lower inflation.
Now, granted, he has done a tremendous job of getting a lot of the consumer goods down to, I think, you know, pre-Biden inflationary numbers, but yet has a lot to do from there.
Now, what's interesting about this particular trip, Steve, is in an area, it's in a congressional district where we have a freshman Republican who just won their election last time by only about 1.5%.
So it's a very swing congressional district, and that is next to another very tight, swing congressional district.
So the location of this trip today is very strategic in terms of the midterms, but also just in terms of echoing his economic policy to bring down the affordability here in this country post-a very tragic double-digit inflation under Joe Biden.
steve bannon
My recommendation, since inflation is cumulative, is don't fall into the affordability traps.
The Democrats are trying to goad you into this.
You are stopping the acceleration of it.
That's the story.
But more importantly, is these huge bets we've made on the big, beautiful bill, the supply-side tax cut, and the redoing of the world's commercial relationships through trade and tariffs.
They're both designed.
One's a forcing function, the tariffs.
The other is an opportunity function to drive capital, massive capital investment into plant equipment in the United States to return us to be a manufacturing superpower, of which Pennsylvania is a perfect example.
If we continue to hammer that, and it is going to take some time, but I think you show people where the progress is.
People are going to understand that within a year, you know, he's done this in the first 10 months.
It's extraordinary what he's accomplished, right?
Now this is going to take fruition in next year.
Scott Besson, who's no radical, as you know, Brian, you know him well, has said, hey, I don't think we're having a recession next year.
And I think that this capital investment is really going to kick in probably in the second quarter.
Is that where the president, I know the economic team is talking about this, is the president's speech today also going to lay out those types of things, which are, to me, more even fundamental than just talk about affordability?
You know, never play on the opponent's field, and that's what they want you to do, sir.
brian glenn
That's an excellent point, Steve.
And I do agree.
I think that's going to be a part of his messaging in here.
And Susie Wiles was on a podcast, I think, yesterday, talking about this plan of getting Trump back on the road, if you will, almost like a campaign stop, stomping for some of these other congressional candidates in terms of their messaging.
So to your point, I think messaging is very key in all of this and really laying it out to people that we're so used to these overnight fixes on problems that this is going to take a little bit of time or a little bit of time to correct, being the manufacturing coming back into these key states like Pennsylvania, which we saw so much steel manufacturing being reinvested in that state.
So to your point, I think on the short term, we'll see some of the things like energy, gasoline, things like that come down.
But on the long term, it's really that reinvestment in these states that are so crucial for these big businesses coming back in there, which these tariffs deals have done.
So, well, I think you're spot on on that messaging.
That takes place by the night at, by the way, at 6 p.m. Eastern there at the Mount Airy Casino.
steve bannon
Okay, and Brian Glenn will be with us.
Brian, thank you so much.
Where do folks follow you during the day with any updates, particularly get a copy of the speech or the remarks?
Where do people go, sir?
brian glenn
Absolutely.
I'll put that up for you at Brian Glenn TV on X at Brian on True Social on Instagram and Facebook as well.
We're going to have full coverage there.
So if you want to tune into Real America's Voice and my Scho Sols, and also just tune into programming, we're going to have copter footage, the whole bit going straight to this casino in Pennsylvania.
We'll have everything for you right here on Real America's Voice.
steve bannon
So bowling will pick it up at 4 o'clock.
We'll cover it at 5, the helicopter with Brian Glenn, the entire team, and then John Solomon picks up for us.
He'll cover the speech tonight.
Real America's Voice.
Thank you, sir.
Brian Glenn, thank you.
brian glenn
Thank you.
steve bannon
Let me play this.
Do I have Dasha Burns?
It was a fascinating dosha, I thought, did a great job.
And President Trump is at his combative best.
Okay, he always gives better than he gets.
Let's go ahead and play this.
I'll bring in Brad and Ben Harnwell.
unidentified
Some leaders in Europe are a little freaked out by what your posture is.
donald j trump
No, nobody should be freaked out by what they're doing to their countries.
They're destroying their country.
unidentified
Well, European Council friends.
donald j trump
They're people I like.
Look, they're people I like.
I get along with them.
You know that.
But they can't let this happen.
And it gets to a point where you can't really correct it.
There'll be a point, and it's very close to that.
unidentified
And what will that mean?
donald j trump
It will mean that they're no longer going to be strong nations.
unidentified
Or they won't be allies.
donald j trump
Or they'll be, well, it depends.
You know, it depends.
They'll change their ideology, obviously, because the people coming in have a totally different ideology.
But it's going to make them much weaker.
They'll be much weaker, and they'll be much different.
unidentified
And what will that mean for our relationship?
donald j trump
Look at your mayor of London.
He's a disaster.
He's a disaster.
He's got a totally different ideology of what he's supposed to have.
And he gets elected because so many people have come in and they vote for him now because, you know, it's like it's one of those things.
But I hate what's happened to London, and I hate what's happened to Paris.
I hate when I see it.
unidentified
You know, sir, it's sometimes hard to tell when you say these things.
Do you intend to send kind of a message of tough love to our allies to push them to make reforms?
Or do you think that many of them are just weak and you don't really want to be allies with them?
donald j trump
I think they're weak.
But I also think that they want to be so politically correct.
I think they don't know what to do.
Europe doesn't know what to do.
They don't know what to do on trade either.
I mean, I look at a lot of the trade situation that's going on over there.
It's a little bit dangerous.
But Europe, they want to be politically correct, and it makes them weak.
That's what makes them weak.
unidentified
It sounds like you want to see some pretty massive changes.
donald j trump
Well, I think they should get the people out that came into the country illegally.
unidentified
I want to ask about NATO.
donald j trump
You know, if you take a look at Sweden.
So Sweden was known as the safest country in Europe, one of the safest countries in the world.
Now it's known as a very unsafe, well, pretty unsafe country.
It's not even believable.
It's a whole different country.
steve bannon
Ben Harnwell, your observations.
ben harnwell
Look, Steve, the important thing about that interview, and this is Donald Trump at his best, okay, this is where he's absolutely forefront in your face about pushing the America first agenda, right?
No backing down on this.
In fact, it was the journalists who was backing down.
No, the beauty about this interview, Steve, is that it will land with the European peoples.
That's the thing.
You hear politicians talking and they talk about in slogans and sound bites and it never really lands and resonates with people because it never really reflects their daily perception of lived life, of lived experience, of reality.
That's not what you get with Donald Trump when he's at his best.
What you hear from Donald Trump when he's at his best is saying the truth as it corresponds to your existence that when you step out your front door, look down the street, what he says resonates with your empirical data.
And of course, when it's Donald Trump, he's saying what no one else will say, will have the courage to say.
And I think that's part of the background of what he was saying about the European elites being dominated by political correctness.
I'll add to this point, Steve.
People often, especially here in continental Europe, they often misunderstand Donald Trump and they misunderestimate him.
President Trump said that he gets on well with the European leaders and that's absolutely true.
You can see the rapport that he has because he's a personable guy when he's with them.
And they go back to their countries and you see the smiles and the arm embraces and the air kissing and all the rest of it in the Oval Office.
And then they go back, they step back to their European capitals and say, they say, look, see how well we get on.
We'll roll him.
We'll get Donald Trump to do what we want and submit to our agenda.
They don't understand the man.
He's a very personable guy, but he's absolutely in his own skin when it comes to defending what he thinks about.
That's why they misunderstand him.
That's why they've stepped it wrong to some extent with regards to Ukraine.
And it's why what we were talking about before, the US's national security strategy has taken them all by surprise because they believed that stepping over to DC and having the backslap is an indication that President Trump isn't serious about pursuing his America first agenda.
He's absolutely serious about that.
And they're learning this the hard way.
steve bannon
And I hope Marco and the people around President Trump see now that these people are not dependable enough.
You can't do security guarantees and lock the United States in because we're people that step up for what we agree to.
You can't have security guarantees and you can't particularly have a sovereignty guarantee and Marco's sitting there saying we're going to ensure there's no more wars.
These people are just not trustworthy.
They're going to flip on a dime.
Selinsky to throw the toys out of the prim is just not acceptable.
Him come out and say that.
If I was President Trump, I think has had the patience of Job with these people.
It's like, okay, you guys go figure it out.
Ben Harnwell in Rome, where do people get you for all your beady-eyed commentary, sir?
ben harnwell
My beady cynical eyes stare at the daily events like a hungry serpent staring at a somewhat oblivious, fattened mouse.
I'm on Getter, Steve.
It's my social media platform of just choice.
Just type in my surname at Harnwell, and I have a whole list of provocations awaiting your perusal.
Thanks, Steve.
God bless.
Catch you tomorrow.
steve bannon
Thank you, sir.
Dave Brett, your observations.
We've got about a minute before we got to go to break.
What do you got for me, sir?
And hearing President Trump and that great interview with Dasha Burns.
dave brat
Yeah, I enjoyed that, how these 20-year-olds have the hoods on geopolitics to go up against someone who was elected by the American people.
Just total lack of respect on the moral front and the knowledge front.
But I think President Trump does have to explain to the nation.
Everybody knows we're missing something.
He can just walk away, right?
That's the simple explanation, but he's not.
And so there's a missing piece there that has to do with rare earths, geography, something, or the hawks keeping him there with NATO forces.
But I wish he would come forward and explain that piece so the American people can understand because the solution seems very simple to us.
Just get out of there.
steve bannon
Dave, hang on.
Megan Bashram is going to join us.
I need your thinking with Megan's very important article about the evangelical movement, one of the backbones of the Trump movement.
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And that is the key point.
As we talk about President Trump's going on the road, there's all this geopolitical, massive deals are happening.
We're talking about the economy, his trade deal today in Pennsylvania.
He's going to make the pitch for: hey, look, the big, beautiful bill was a supply-site tax cut.
Factories are coming back.
The trade deals to force manufacturing back here or have people pay.
It's very simple.
It's a forcing function, a gating or a toll.
If you don't manufacture it here, you're going to have to pay to get access to this market.
He'll be walking through all of that.
As part of this coalition, people are talking about, you know, you get the tech bros, you got all this.
One of the central, one of the central elements of it are the evangelical Christians.
Megan Basham joins us now.
Megan, in fact, the evangelical Christians are called what the last bulwark.
What is that phrase that people use to talk about the evangelical Christians as far as a political force?
megan basham
Yeah, you'll commonly hear them referred to as the lone bulwark, because as you look through polling on any number of conservative issues, you'll see that most other religious groups have largely fallen away.
Even if you look at, say, Catholics on abortion, you'll find that half of Catholics are pro-choice now.
But evangelicals, specifically white evangelicals, again and again, are the last men standing.
They are there and they are saying we are a force.
We're not going to be moved on immigration, amnesty.
We're not going to be moved on climate change.
We're not going to be moved on abortion.
We're not going to be moved on marriage or transing the kids.
So that is why they've been referred to that, because again and again, I would argue they are the voice of moral sanity and they just refuse to get with the liberal program.
steve bannon
So you've been getting our audience up to speed, both evangelicals and people who are not evangelicals, about this pressure inside the evangelical spectrum of the church, of that part of the church.
And I think it's very important for people to understand how we got here.
There's an article, and it was in Commonwealth magazine, that is a, I think, traditionally Catholic, pretty progressive left-wing, but it's called The Road Not Taken.
And I gave that to you because it's obviously a very deeply thought-through piece, but has some pretty surprising analysis in it.
I want you to walk us through it and particularly bring it up to this contemporary where you're making the argument that, hey, the evangelical church is under tremendous pressure from the progressive movement and maybe some people that don't have the best intentions of Christianity or the American Republic, ma'am.
megan basham
Yeah, so when you sent this article to me, I'll tell you it was a blast from the past because I spent 15 years working for the man who is known as the architect of compassionate conservatism.
That's Marvin Olasky, who is now editor-in-chief of Christianity Today.
So Marvin sort of came up with this idea or furthered and promoted the idea of compassionate conservatism.
And the concept was that the evangelicals passed that formed and were very successful with the moral majority, people like Pat Robertson, James Dobson, Jerry Falwell, that that was a path we should not follow anymore.
And instead, we should present ourselves as compassionate conservatism.
So obviously, the assumption in that phrase is that the conservatives of the Reagan era were not compassionate.
And so we needed to distinguish ourselves from them in some way.
And there's some argument about was this just a slogan that the Bush campaign picked up on to say, hey, we're compassionate conservatives, or was it a real policy change?
And I would argue it was a real policy change because what the Bush administration then did is they established the Office of Faith Initiatives.
And what that did was it ostensibly allowed evangelical and faith-based ministries to compete for government grants for various welfare programs.
But what it really did was it created an avenue to make all of these large evangelical institutions essentially an arm of the federal government.
And that's what we see today.
So much of that was established during that Bush era.
And so today, when you flash forward, the argument became to be compassionate conservatives.
And you actually hear this from John Faya, both in that article and in an interview that I listened to that he gave about that article.
They argued that the problem with the conservatives passed is they weren't compassionate because they didn't prioritize global interests above American interests.
In fact, I was so fascinated by this article that Faya gave, I jotted down a comment that he made in it where he talked about how the big beautiful bill was going to kill compassionate conservatism.
Like that was going to be the final nail in the coffin.
And one of the reasons that he argued for this was that he said they were big government to the benefit of the world.
And he suggested that this was a positive thing.
And in fact, he said that it was a failure of conservatives today, of those evangelicals, that lone bulwark, that they no longer see their prime purpose in politics to benefit the world, but to benefit American citizens.
And that's why they supported Trump.
And so that was so interesting to me that they openly admitted that they see a problem with evangelicals viewing their government's responsibility as first being to its own citizens and not to the world.
Now, Faya argues in the article that compassionate conservatism failed and that we didn't end up taking that road.
I think that's wrong.
We did take that road and we see the fruit of that road today.
And in fact, the reason that I think Trump became such a favorite of evangelical voters and why they have stuck with him is they saw the wages of that compassionate conservatism.
They see exactly what it did.
And what it did was to decimate America's own sense of order, its own immigration policies.
And it created chaos at the border.
It created drug trafficking, sex trafficking, and it sent so much of our American largesse and wealth over to other nations where it's frequently squandered.
It doesn't even help the people it's intended to help.
And so rightfully, at some point, American evangelicals went, ah, actually, this compassionate conservatism program did not work well.
It didn't work well for us, and it didn't even work well for the nations that we were supposedly helping.
steve bannon
The reason I wanted to have you on today is President Trump's going to Pennsylvania.
He's going up to two congressional districts that are going to be central to holding the House.
And in Indianapolis, they did get the vote 6-3 last night, not 5-4, to look at this redistricting.
We are really at the start of what is going to be an absolutely brutal year in American politics and trying to hold the House.
As we bring a close to this year and start next year, is the evangelical movement when they have all these different pressures, right?
And the people arguing about the history and as compassionate conservatives and are you really putting forward the message of Christ by getting involved in politics?
Is this difference between the leadership and a lot of the base?
Is the evangelical church and evangelicals in the pews, are they still as motivated to come out and to come out in large force?
Because if we don't, it's just the math is pretty brutal.
If we don't have a big turnout, and I think this is one of the reasons you got so much progressive pressure on the evangelical part of our church is that if the evangelicals do not turn up in this midterm in pretty huge numbers, that evening in November is going to be pretty grim for President Trump, the MAGA movement, and the nation as a whole, ma'am.
megan basham
Yeah, and what you're getting at there, Steve, is really important.
And that is that the GOP does not win elections without the evangelicals.
I've said this before.
It's a drum that I'm going to keep banging.
And that is that even left-leaning outlets like the Atlantic have rightly called them America's most powerful voting bloc.
The Republicans cannot sleep on the evangelicals.
They can't assume that they're going to have the level of support that they need to win.
And we actually have some somewhat concerning information if we look at the last election in 2024.
And that was the fact that, yes, evangelicals still supported Donald Trump at about 80%, but their voting rates were down about six to eight points.
So a lot of them stayed home.
And that was something that you saw these compassionate conservative, and I put that phrase very much in quotes because I don't think it's either compassionate or conservative.
But so you saw outlets like Christianity Today that has championed that concept and whose editor-in-chief literally wrote the book on it.
They put out articles arguing just before the 2024 election, hey, you don't have to vote.
You might want to just stay home.
You know, the most moral thing for a Christian to do might be to just sit out the election.
And so I would argue they were somewhat successful in that.
We saw six to eight percent more evangelicals sitting out the election in 2024 than did in 2016.
So I would say that's a warning bell for the Republicans that, you know, don't count on them getting out the vote.
I don't think they're going to vote for Democrats, but they might not turn out.
So you need to ensure that that base is enthused and it's getting out.
And, you know, part of why I think this compassionate conservatism and the leaders of that, your Russell Moores, your Marvin Alaskis, have been such a problem is because what that partnership with the federal government did back in the early 2000s was it created a mechanism so that all of these evangelical institutions essentially became an arm of the federal government.
And that opened the door to staffing them with your sort of think tank Christians.
Think you're never Trumpers like Pete Wenner or the late Michael Gerson.
So those are the type of people who took over those institutions, even at places like Focus on the Family, which James Dobson founded.
You know, he was one of the main leaders of the moral majority.
He founded Focus on the Family.
And at the end of his life, he was really pushed out and distanced.
Focus on the Family distanced itself from him.
So that compassionate conservatism created that kind of leadership.
steve bannon
Megan, hang on for one second.
I'm going to hold you through the break.
Senator Josh Hawley is also going to join us.
Dave Brett, myself.
Back in the day.
unidentified
Holy war.
steve bannon
Here's your Senator Hawley's, I think he's on the floor in the meetings.
We're going to get him as soon as he's free.
If not, we'll do it tonight or tomorrow morning.
We've got to get him up.
He's got a lot to say about artificial intelligence, as you can imagine.
Also, there's a whole bunch of stuff going on on the Senate right now and spending.
So, Basham, you got me more worried than ever now.
I wanted to have you on here.
unidentified
That's what I'm saying.
steve bannon
So, I'm not worried, but I'm worried.
unidentified
I'm worried.
steve bannon
Hang on, hang on.
If I'm sourcing those guys and you tell me that if I start putting some money into some guys who are already drifting anyway, because I say right now, and I say this as a Catholic, if you didn't have James Dobson and Pat Robinson and Jerry Falwell and from my beloved Commonwealth of Virginia, Robertson and Falwell Kane, you wouldn't have had a country.
They were as important in their time to saving this thing as Trump is today.
I mean, those individuals stepped into the breach and awakened America to the moral decline and the path we were going down.
And so you tell me now that 80%, if I'm on the opposite side as a strategist, you tell me, hey, we put some money in here, we do this, and we get some of these guys and we send them to institutions.
You said that they all want to be at the big, you know, at the big universities.
They all want to be at the big institutions and get the book deals and get the speaking engagements and get on all the big TV shows.
If I can get 20% of the evangelicals, the blown bulwark, if I can take 20% of our most fervent, dedicated Christians and get those not to vote for progressives, and I can take the overall support for Trump down by 8%, that's a massive victory right there.
And if those numbers are anywhere close to reality right now, looking forward to what's coming, I can tell you folks, you think you got a dog fight, you got a much bigger dogfight than that because some of these congressional districts are going to come down to turning out the evangelical vote.
So what is being done for us to carve back the 20 we lost, the 20% we lost, and get the denominator up to get that 8% to get the level set.
Because right now, we're not even talking about what used to be one of my favorite topics, the 40 million Christians in the country who just don't register to vote and not engage at all, ma'am.
megan basham
Right.
And I hate to say this, but there's not a lot being done right now.
You know, I know of some small organizations, the Center for Baptist Leadership being one trying to reform the largest Protestant denomination in the U.S., the Southern Baptist Convention.
But there is not a lot of focus on this.
There's not a lot of organization.
And I do think that's concerning because what people don't realize is that you have all of these sort of pseudo-evangelical initiatives and organizations that are funded not just by the federal government, but also by these large left-wing foundations like the Tides Foundation, the Rockefellers.
And they have created these, they're political Christian groups that are coming into churches and basically saying, hey, it is un-Christian to pursue political power.
You shouldn't be focused on political power, which one, you know, that's not true biblically.
Pursuing political power for righteous ends is perfectly biblical and it's a good thing to do and we should do it.
So, you know, they play kind of games like that.
But, you know, these are organizations like the J29 coalition, like something called the After Party that Russell Moore and David French are running.
And these are coming into churches trying to convince Christians that they either need to vote against their interest or sit out in order to follow Christ.
So it's a really insidious, manipulative thing.
And the thing that does concern me is no, I don't see a lot of pushback on the other side.
It's certainly not organized.
The one positive is that you can say that it has taken a lot of time to even chip away at those numbers.
So again, Barna found that in 2024, 6 to 8% evangelicals stayed home.
But what I can tell you is that the rank and file are much more conservative than their leadership.
And I think they have seen the wages of this compassionate conservatism that took hold in the early 2000s.
And they see the chaos, particularly when it comes to immigration and what we have sent overseas.
They started to go, hey, actually, we don't want this.
And, you know, just really quickly, I found that quote from John Faya, and I just want to read it to people so that they understand the ideology coming from these squishy evangelical leaders.
He said, the whole idea of America first means that America is essentially selfish.
It takes care of its own interests before it takes care of others.
unidentified
Well, yeah, that's what a government is supposed to do.
megan basham
It is supposed to take care of its own citizens before it looks to the needs of citizens of other nations and in other parts of the world.
So it was just sort of mind-blowing to me that he openly admitted that that is what they want.
They want the United States government to prioritize other nations and other people above its own people.
So, you know, yes, it is a concerning situation because I think that evangelical vote has been taken for granted.
And if you don't mobilize them, you are not going to win elections and it will be a wipeout, I think, probably in the midterms if something isn't done to raise that alarm.
steve bannon
Do you get any sense that people in the House?
I mean, Mike Johnson, I give Johnson a very hard time, but he's a very devout Christian.
Anybody in the, is the House, NRCC, the House leadership, White House, is anybody making an act of things that, hey, look, we had some issues in the great comeback of 24, 20% of the people voted for, didn't vote for Trump, and then it was overall down 8%.
Has there been any rejuvenation of this in your mind?
megan basham
All right.
So I'm going to tell you quite honestly, Mike Johnson has some strong associations with some of these organizations that I find concerning.
We have spoken before about the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention.
You know, there has been a fight within the SBC to reform them and that's happening.
But Mike Johnson served with the ERLC before, and they are a very squishy compromise organization that has taken money from these left-wing foundations and has promoted this idea that Christians backing Donald Trump are grasping for some sort of unrighteous power.
So I do have a little concern about him and his associations there, not because I necessarily think he agrees with their program, but because there's these friendship networks and there is these professional relationships that there is a tendency not to want to defy them and not to speak openly about what organizations like that are doing in terms of trying to muddy the waters on who evangelicals should support politically.
steve bannon
Megan, where do people go?
You're clearly going to be a central player in all this going forward.
Where do people go to get your writings, your books, most importantly, what you're putting up on a daily basis on Twitter and other social media?
megan basham
Yeah.
So if you want a background on what's going on with evangelicals and how we got here and how the compromise happened, I'll recommend my book, Shepherds for Sale, How Evangelical Leaders Traded the Truth for a Leftist Agenda.
You can get that at Amazon, Target, Christian bookstores, anywhere books are sold.
I tend to hang out on X a lot, a little too much.
So if you go to X, you can find me there at Meg Basham.
And you can find me on Instagram at journalist Megan Basham.
And of course, all my writing at the Daily Wire.
steve bannon
Megan Basham, thank you so much, ma'am.
Appreciate you.
megan basham
Thanks for having me.
steve bannon
Brad.
In fact, Brad, I think it was in my producers.
Was during my time in prison that when you were co-hosting so much, that we introduced the Warren Posse to Meghan.
Just absolutely incredible.
James Dotson, Pat Robertson, and Jerry Falwell were giants, were giants.
If it had not been for those three men and what they, and Ralph Reed and some of their acolytes that came from that, the Tony Perkins, the Ralph Reeds, and we don't agree, obviously, with Tony and Ralph and these guys on everything, particularly certain foreign policy issues that we'll leave for another time.
But if it was not for those three giants, you wouldn't have America.
Remember, this has been a fight for a while.
And President Trump is the leader in leading us forward.
And look, you know, and sometimes we totally disagree with President Trump's policies, and that's just going to happen.
You're not going to agree with everything.
If you didn't have Donald Trump, you would not have a country.
Full stop.
You just would not have a country.
The same with those three gentlemen, Dotson, Robertson, and Falwell.
And I say that as a Catholic, that those three, and I remember my parents, my parents were super conservative, Latin Mass Catholics.
They thought the world of Jerry Falwell, they thought the world of Pat Robertson, and they thought the world of Dotson.
They said at the time that particularly as the church was going through these issues, that part of the church got so progressive and quite frankly, a lot of it anti-American.
It was these three that stood in the breach.
What would they tell us today, sir, about where we are and what we need to do, particularly in the evangelical church?
Folks should understand there's a huge fight because the progressive left understands this.
They understand that there are a lot of patriots, a lot of Americans.
This country was built upon folks like this, the Minutemen, the militias.
That's why they're after the evangelical church, sir.
dave brat
Yeah, they thought there was moral rot back then.
They couldn't bear the sight today.
Those three giants you mentioned are giants because they spoke about God, not values or virtues or whatever.
You go back to Albert Schweitzer and back in his search for the historical Jesus, made a remarkable discovery.
When human beings go back and try to look up who Jesus is and create Jesus, guess what they do?
They find a Jesus in their own image.
So today, it's not surprising you find a globalist socialist Mamdani Jesus who's in favor of compassion.
You find exactly what you want to find, but that's not who God is.
Your favorite theologian in mind, John Calvin, defined faith as a firm and certain knowledge of God's benevolence.
Dot, dot, dot.
Knowledge.
That's a shocker to most people, right?
So God is absolutely compassionate, but God is also holy.
So holy, you can't stand on the holy ground, right?
And so that's the work of Christ is allowing us the approach to God the Father Almighty and his holiness.
This is totally absent from the mainstream media and all these folks talking about compassion, right?
They don't want to find God, the God of the giants you just mentioned.
And that's what has to be done.
So last weekend, there was a guy in the New York Times who wrote a guest piece on St. Augustine, and everybody's just raving about Augustine.
And they said, we got to search for our soul.
And the most important thing you can do is to fight against Trump to enrich your soul.
I was like, oh, my word.
And then the next day.
steve bannon
No, but this is what they're doing.
They're turning it to a religious fervor.
They're turning it to fervor.
You want to save your soul?
You have to.
God is going to ask you how much you fought this demon named Trump.
dave brat
Right.
The next day, Russ Douthett writes a piece saying, I want more Christianity in Christian nationalism.
No, he doesn't.
You're at the paper of record and you never write about the chief attributes of God or Christianity at all, right?
The dominant theme in the New Testament is the kingdom of God.
You want Christianity, Russ?
Write on that sometime.
I don't see the New York Times educating Christians on what faith is, affirming certain knowledge.
What knowledge, Russ?
They all get clever and have their witty banter.
And then I'll just go into the empirics.
Everybody ought to get this little thing you can find online, GapMinder.
Gapminder.org.
Download it on your computer.
It takes a minute.
Hit play.
And you'll see economic growth.
And you'll find a curiosity that's verified by a Berkeley economist, Bradford DeLong.
The countries that had economic growth first were all, roughly speaking, Protestant and Christian countries in Western Europe.
Why is that?
Because those countries had democracy first.
They had decentralization of power first.
They had property rights first.
They had the rule of law first.
That all came out of Christianity, not to mention human rights lingo that the rest of the world's religions don't have.
Well, this, you will never see this in an educated paper like the Washington Post or the New York Times, et cetera.
These are the key institutions that created democracy.
And it came roughly speaking following the Protestant Reformation and John Locke and then our founders who were all Protestants and the heads of every university were Protestants.
And they do not want you to know that.
In fact, they want to get rid of that tradition so they can have their socialist, globalist, elitist run power up in the swamp.
So don't get deterred.
Follow the giants.
Follow God.
Search for God and skip with all the virtues and values until you first got your arms around who God is.
steve bannon
Get your mind right.
Dave, hang on.
You're going to stick around with us.
Dave Brad, co-hosting today.
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unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, we've made a command decision.
Brad's going to be with me more as co-host in the morning.
We've got so much to go through.
In fact, the five and six o'clock shows today are going to be amazing, too.
But, Dave, and I realize it's not totally your line of country, but we're going to carve out an hour, maybe in the six o'clock, maybe when the 11 o'clock hour is going forward.
We want to do, I want to do Dotson, Robertson, and Falwell and bring people up to speed, particularly not their work.
They saved the country.
President Reynolds, they saved the country in a moment when the country needed saving.
They performed much of what President Trump is doing right now.
Of course, you had Reagan.
You then had the Bush, you know, Junta, all that.
But these three gentlemen are giants.
And I don't think they get enough credit in the MAGA move today because I just don't think a lot of people just don't know the work, but we'll do that.
Until that time, Dave, what's your social media?
Where do people get you?
Tomorrow, you and I are going to go through some economics.
Particularly, we're going to analyze the president's speech today at 6 in Pennsylvania.
I'm sure he'll be running a little late.
And we'll break it down, particularly the difference between the supply side bet.
And I just don't think they ought to get sucked into this trap on affordability.
You've got to talk about it.
You've got great news about there about what's happening.
But don't play the Democrats.
And President Trump's smart enough for that.
That's why I talked to Dasha Burns.
I thought he did a great job with her.
Where do people go to get you, Dave?
dave brat
Yep, 21% inflation under Biden.
That's all he needs to say.
Four years, 21%.
steve bannon
Amen.
dave brat
Just go to Brad Economics on Getter and X, and I'm going to post that gapminder.org.
Please, there's more information in that little data series, and it's beautifully done.
Get your kids, get yourself on it, gapminder.org, China and India, the explosive growth.
Two red balls on that dart dots, red dots on that chart will scare the living daylights out of you.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate you.
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trevor comstock
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steve bannon
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But where do they go right now to just get online, get on the site, look at the products, look at the ingredients, look at all the reviews?
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trevor comstock
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steve bannon
Sir, thank you so much.
I'll see you back here at 6.
Appreciate you.
Go to work now.
Mike Lindell, brother, we got Charlie Kirk is going to follow us at noon, the Charlie Kirk show.
Posto, then we're back here at 5.
I think there's some big announcements coming to you later in the week.
What do you got for us today, sir?
mike lindell
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So what we're doing, we're actually, we're working hard to get it out there to the public because people in Minnesota, I mean, they need to know what's going on with this governor, with Keith Ellison, who's attacking my recovery network and all these things going on.
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Thank you, brother.
The Charlie Kirk Show with Andrew Colvette and others is next post.
So after that, Steve Gruber, Eric Bowling, President's going to be leaving about 4 o'clock.
Brian Glenn's with him.
We'll be here at 5 and we'll be here at 6.
President's going to give a speech.
We're going to have two killer shows.
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