Dec. 9, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| Here's not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
| MAGA Media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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Waru, here's your host, Stephen K. Battle. | |
| It's Tuesday, 9, December, year of our Lord, 2025. | ||
| We are so jammed today that we're going to do the cold open a little bit later. | ||
| Some of our other guests, Senator Hawley will be joining us. | ||
| Senator Tuberville, we're pretty packed. | ||
| Dave Bratt's in studio with me. | ||
| And Ben Harnwell joins us from Rome. | ||
| I should say Dave Bratt is in the anchor chair in our DC studio. | ||
| I want to start with Oren Cass of American Compass, the chief economist over there. | ||
| So folks should understand behind the scenes in DC, two huge things are taking place simultaneously. | ||
| Number one, the Senate is working on a mega bus, not an omnibus, but a mega bus. | ||
| This thing's quite frankly a mess. | ||
| We're going to break that down later. | ||
| All types of spending we thought we got out of there is back in. | ||
| So we'll get to that in a moment. | ||
| But the other big fight is about kind of this global conflict about artificial intelligence, Oren, and about the executive order and the NDAA, the AI amnesty, this whole thing between the states and federal government and the four horsemen of the apocalypse at the frontier labs with no restrictions and David Saxe people want no restrictions. | ||
| But on the other hand, because the reason we're even talking about no restrictions is that we've had a Sputnik moment. | ||
| We're in a race like either to the moon or to build a hydrogen bomb against the Soviets. | ||
| And we can't miss a beat. | ||
| We can't put any restraints or any oversight on these amazing entrepreneurs because to do so would turn the world over to the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| But simultaneously, the Chinese Communist Party can't be competitive unless they have our chips, our know-how, our education, our capital, all of it. | ||
| The whole ecosystem to build a complex system, probably the most complex, like artificial intelligence, needs Western support and every aspect of it. | ||
| So make it make sense to me. | ||
| How do we have this situation where we are, and we're going to get a team of experts to start coming on here, many of never been on the war room before because they're experts in this area. | ||
| And across the board, this is kind of uniting a lot of people saying, we don't understand what's happening. | ||
| Just explain it to us. | ||
| Oren, the floor is yours. | ||
| Well, thank you for having me on. | ||
| It is a sad day for America first, bluntly. | ||
| I think you've, as you've laid out, there are these fights that have been going on behind the scenes over all of these different definitions and fights on AI. | ||
| And what's fascinating about them is these people will not have the debates in public. | ||
| You will not find anybody actually go out there, face a tough interview, and try to explain why we should be telling states nobody else can do any regulation. | ||
| They will certainly not go out and explain why should we sell chips to China. | ||
| And yet they continue to push these directly contradictory policies. | ||
| AI is the most important thing. | ||
| We have to win on it. | ||
| Also, we should give advanced chips to China. | ||
| I have to highlight, because this is so funny or maybe pathetic, you decide literally yesterday, as the Trump administration was saying we're going to start selling these advanced chips called the H-200s to China, the Trump administration Department of Justice was proudly announcing they had cracked down on somebody for smuggling those exact same chips to China. | ||
| This is the release from the Department of Justice proudly says that they exposed a sophisticated spunkling network that threatens our nation's security by funneling cutting-edge AI technology to those who would use it against American interests. | ||
| Well, now it's President Trump and the White House that are funneling that exact same cutting-edge AI technology to the Chinese who would use it against American interest. | ||
| The only through line, the only common denominator that makes sense is at every stage, it's the choice that's going to make the most money for the people selling these products. | ||
| The people who apparently get the last hearing in the Oval Office, the people who the decisions are being made on behalf of with no consideration for the national interest or the American people. | ||
| I want to go back because it's absolutely kind of one of the key points. | ||
| The Justice Department, and this investigation has been going on a while. | ||
| And the way that the release is, is that they've had a massive investigation. | ||
| They found these guys that are basically black market guys and doing this. | ||
| And it's like I said, Jensen Wong is an arms dealer. | ||
| He's an arms dealer. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| Some black market arms dealers got caught as arms dealers often do by people like the Justice Department that have these nets out there to make sure this is not happening illegally, that all the controls we put in the Commerce Department and all the different regulatory agencies that have a hand in this, you have very tight restrictions on this. | ||
| You go up to Capitol Hill, you get sign-off, you get everybody in kind of agreement. | ||
| Nobody's perfectly happy, but it kind of is a structure that you live with. | ||
| And then on the very day that they announce this really great effort to get these smaller arms dealers, the biggest arms dealer gets a pass and he's going to pay, you know, he's going to give 25% to the American people or back to the government. | ||
| That's fine, but it's kind of irrelevant if you're selling them something that will make them even, you know, even near competitive. | ||
| If this is a race and we've signed an executive order that turns the national labs and turns the weapons labs, the great weapons labs that Oppenheimer and the team built the atomic bomb and then built the hydrogen bomb. | ||
| Those same weapons labs, Los Alamos, Lawrence Livermore, Sandia, and others, plus the other national labs, will essentially be turned over to the AI guys because it's a matter of the utmost national security. | ||
| You know, why do we provide not just the chips, but any part of the ecosystem, the capital, the expertise, the 350,000 Chinese students over here all taking engineering and advanced computer because they're not majoring in medieval poetry. | ||
| None of that's so two things can't be right at the same time. | ||
| If this is a Sputnik moment, okay, and we have to actually do some things that we wouldn't be comfortable with in ceding ground to the accelerationist, right? | ||
| Then at the same time, you can't be arming the enemy with everything they need to actually compete with us. | ||
| It just, it doesn't make any sense, does it? | ||
| Is there any logic here that you and I are missing or the other people I've talked to, the hundreds of other people in the last 24 hours on this? | ||
| Well, look, the argument that folks will make behind the scenes, because as I said, no one's willing to make this argument in public because it is such a weak argument. | ||
| But if you ask them, you know, with a straight face, like, tell me what you think here. | ||
| What are they saying, you know, in the Oval Office? | ||
| The argument is essentially that we want U.S. to have tech leadership in China. | ||
| And so if we sell these advanced chips to China, that will allow us to keep a foothold there. | ||
| That will sort of addict them to our technology. | ||
| This should sound familiar because it's the exact same thing corporations have been saying for 30 years. | ||
| Every new generation comes in and says, we have to get into China. | ||
| We have to sell our technology. | ||
| We have to give away our technology there. | ||
| And that's going to be good for us in the long run. | ||
| And every single time they end up embarrassed and thrown out on the street. | ||
| And China keeps the technology and takes the leadership. | ||
| And yes, the shareholders get a bunch of profit in the short run. | ||
| And the U.S. falls behind in the long run. | ||
| And what's so frustrating here is that, you know, AI is in many ways now the one advantage that we have. | ||
| If you think about the competition that we're in with China, as we try to reindustrialize, build back manufacturing in this country, our advantage on AI chips, our ability to build the most powerful systems, that's really the one thing that we sort of have going for us as we try to make up for the mistakes of the past. | ||
| And so to have folks saying, no, no, we want to instead go back and make the exact same mistake again, undermine the advantage that we have just to make a little bit more money in the short run, this is exactly the mistake we've been making over and over again. | ||
| And you just have to ask yourself, you know, if the tables were turned, if China had this advantage, would you have Chinese leaders saying, oh, yeah, let's sell a bunch of advanced chips to the Americans? | ||
| The question answers itself. | ||
| It is unfortunate that we don't have business leaders in this country that are sufficiently grateful to what America has given them, to the freedom that they have, to the profit that they are able to earn, that they think about the American interest at all. | ||
| It just gets thrown out the window if there's a little bit more money to be made, essentially selling the Chinese the rope that they're going to hang us with. | ||
| And what you're talking about is decoupling is that in 2019, they did this. | ||
| This is why you've had TikTok, you had DeepSeek, you've had all these things. | ||
| As soon as they get enough expertise, because they copy everything, as soon as they get enough expertise, they try to decouple from the West. | ||
| This is why they didn't sign the Lighthizer deal that President Trump negotiated for two years that would take care of the seven deadly sins and integrate them into the global economy. | ||
| They actually, at the very last second, Li He, when he presented it to Wan Shishan and Xi, they tore it up. | ||
| They said, we're not going to do that. | ||
| Then we're not going to do it. | ||
| After two years of negotiation, what you mention here is that Jensen Wong, when you talk about this and people making this argument, Jensen Wong is trying to sell or the American people that it doesn't matter who wins. | ||
| If China wins, that's okay. | ||
| If a Chinese company wins, it's okay. | ||
| He's on record of saying that. | ||
| He's actually said the American dream that if you're a China hawk, that is a badge of shame. | ||
| If you're a China hawk, if you're anti-CCP, you're a China hawk, that is a badge of shame, not a badge of honor. | ||
| And he said in this regard that the American dream actually goes through China. | ||
| What would you say of a person that tried to make that pitch consistently to the American people, sir? | ||
| Well, I think you're giving him too much credit for even saying he's making a pitch consistently. | ||
| One of the reasons he's not actually out there trying to make the case for this policy is because he can't make the case for anything. | ||
| One day he goes out there and says China's going to win. | ||
| One day he goes out there and says it doesn't matter who's going to win. | ||
| Then his PR people run in to clean up and say, no, no, no, no, you know, we're going to win. | ||
| Then he says export controls don't work. | ||
| Then he says there's no smuggling going on. | ||
| Then he says, don't worry about the smuggling. | ||
| Just let us sell it directly. | ||
| That, you know, one day, obviously, we have to beat China. | ||
| The next day, China Hawk is a badge of shame. | ||
| It's just throwing stuff at the wall, seeing what, if anything, sticks, and counting on the end of the day, having an administration that isn't going to think about the actual arguments, that's just going to sort of, I guess, go with the rich guy. | ||
| And I would hope that we would have an administration. | ||
| We'd have policymakers. | ||
| You know, it was reported that when Trump met with Xi, he was thinking about doing this kind of deal. | ||
| And other folks in the administration, you know, maybe with cooler heads, stepped in and said, you can't do this. | ||
| This is a mistake. | ||
| This is bad for the United States. | ||
| This is not consistent with the foreign policy that the president has espoused, the commitment to America first. | ||
| And now they're throwing it all out the window. | ||
| And it's a tragedy for this administration. | ||
| And it's going to be a tragedy for the United States. | ||
| You know, President Trump's the first president we've ever had that stood up to China. | ||
| One of the most refreshing things about him in 15 and 16 was that he stood up to China. | ||
| Here's what I want to do. | ||
| I want to hold you through the break. | ||
| I got Dave Brett, Ben Harnwell in Rome, Dave Bratt in DC. | ||
| Oren, and we're going to go to Brian Glenn, and Lawyer, our White Horse correspondent. | ||
| The president of the United States, Oren, this one tee up for when you come back in the next segment. | ||
| The president of the United States is headed to Pennsylvania today. | ||
| He's got a very compelling economic argument. | ||
| We've made two huge bets here, and you can't unwind those bets. | ||
| You made a bet on a supply-side tax cut to bring capital into manufacturing and turn us to be a manufacturing superpower. | ||
| At the same time, you've reorganized the world's commercial relationships and done it in six months to use trade as a forcing function or terrorism forcing function to bring capital in manufacturing from international companies and countries back to the United States to guess what, return us to a manufacturing superpower. | ||
| President Trump's going up to one of the part of the traditional rust belt, but Pennsylvania today to make his argument. | ||
| Orin Cass is going to help us with that. | ||
| Also, at the same time, Zelensky threw his toys out of the pram yesterday in London, meeting with Starmer and Macrone and said, hey, no territorial, no territorial concessions. | ||
| I'm out. | ||
| We're not going to give up anything. | ||
| It's going to be a deal. | ||
| President Trump has worked for months and today, Dasha Burns at Politico has an interview with him. | ||
| Open just says, hey, look, there's no leadership in Europe. | ||
| I don't even know what to do with these guys. | ||
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| So, Orin Cash, the president heads today to Pennsylvania. | ||
| And I think you're seeing a lot of people said the president's got to focus more on domestic. | ||
| There is this, I believe it's inextricably linked to what he's doing in national security, particularly trying to end the beginning phase of the kinetic part of the Third World War on the Eurasian landmass in the Middle East. | ||
| But he is taking advice. | ||
| And I think President Trump says, hey, look, Scott Besson's great, Navarre's great, Hassett's great, Lutnik, okay, these guys, I'm the one that can sell this, and that's why he's going to Pennsylvania. | ||
| What say you, sir? | ||
| Well, I think it's really important for him to get focused on this and really be driving a message that's about what the economy needs and what his policies are doing for it. | ||
| You know, we've seen so much focus on the affordability question lately. | ||
| I think what that comes down to ultimately is a realization people have that in the economy today, it's a struggle to make ends meet, that for a very long time now, the direction of the economy has not been one that provides better, higher paying jobs for people that let them build good lives for themselves, support their families. | ||
| And so, you know, I think obviously that's a message that Trump has run on. | ||
| I think early on in the administration, the first few months, they came in and focused a lot on that. | ||
| But then it's felt like over the past few months, there's been a lot more focus on foreign policy stuff. | ||
| There's been a lot of focus on some of this AI and tech stuff. | ||
| And in the background, we still have the tariffs. | ||
| We still have a lot of efforts to focus on getting investment back in this country. | ||
| But that has to be a message. | ||
| He has to be telling the story. | ||
| Here is how this is actually going to help. | ||
| And no, it doesn't help in one week, right? | ||
| People say, where are the manufacturing jobs? | ||
| Well, you have to build the factories first. | ||
| But there is a really good story to tell about the commitments that we're seeing to bringing investment back to this country. | ||
| And now I think what he needs to do is pair that with, okay, what are the next steps? | ||
| What are the ways we're going to support that investment? | ||
| What are the ways we're going to prepare people to do these kinds of jobs? | ||
| The ecosystem, the training, all that. | ||
| Do you agree? | ||
| I said, don't fall into the affordability trap because inflation's cumulative. | ||
| What Biden did, you're not going to unwind this. | ||
| It's going to be almost impossible to unwind that, particularly as you're running $2 trillion deficits every year, folks, and you got to refinance a third of it, the national debt. | ||
| It's going to be hard. | ||
| What you got to do is stop. | ||
| Remember, inflation, what you got to stop is what they've done is the accelerating rate of inflation. | ||
| But the focus should be on, because we made a bet, and you're not going to be able to unwind these bets. | ||
| You got to double and triple down. | ||
| It's on growth, not just GDP growth, but GDP per capita. | ||
| It's on jobs, high-value added manufacturing jobs in the ecosystem that comes around that would do it. | ||
| And it's wages, and particularly higher wages. | ||
| We had the trifecta in the summer, fall, and Christmas season of 2019, right before we got hit with the CCP pandemic. | ||
| That's the focus. | ||
| That's why I was going to Pennsylvania. | ||
| But I wouldn't fall into the trap of thinking you have to debate these guys every day on affordability. | ||
| That's just a trap they set for you using Biden's the DACA of the Biden economy as their club. | ||
| You get back to Trump's best, growth, jobs, and higher wages, sir. | ||
| Yeah, I think that's right. | ||
| And that is a question that comes up sometimes. | ||
| Like, what are we going to do to bring prices back down, right? | ||
| We don't actually want prices to fall. | ||
| You don't want to have deflation. | ||
| People, among other things, they'd suddenly see their wages start to fall too. | ||
| And no one would be happy with that. | ||
| And so one important thing is emphasize that we are done with the Biden inflation. | ||
| Would you rather have inflation at 2% than 3%? | ||
| Yes, that should still be the goal. | ||
| But we are not seeing the kinds of disastrous inflation we had a few years ago. | ||
| People need to know, though, how are things going to start getting better? | ||
| What is the actually path to better lives for them, for their families? | ||
| And so, you know, like you said, if you just get into this affordability fight, then you end up with the president on the other side of it saying there is no affordability problem. | ||
| And people aren't going to agree with that. | ||
| So you have to actually have a positive story. | ||
| Here is our theory of the case. | ||
| Here's what we're doing to actually make things better. | ||
| It doesn't happen overnight, but we're on the right track. | ||
| And hopefully that's the story he'll get out there and be telling on this trip. | ||
| And nobody's a better salesman of this than President Trump of his economic plan. | ||
| That being said, he's got so much on his shoulders right now, so much on his plate. | ||
| Orin, where do people get to you with American Compass? | ||
| You got a great new book out that you've edited, all these different pieces you guys have written. | ||
| Where do people go to get all your content? | ||
| Because you're kind of on the cutting edge of economic nationalism and economic populism, sir. | ||
| Well, I appreciate that. | ||
| The book is called The New Conservatives. | ||
| It's a great rundown. | ||
| I think of everything that's happening on the right of center. | ||
| Lots of great contributors, you know, Ambassador Lighthizer, Secretary Rubio have pieces in it. | ||
| And so, frankly, the perfect Christmas gift for anyone in your life who wants to understand what's going on, where we're headed on the right of center. | ||
| You can find me on X at Oren underscore CAS. | ||
| And please check out American Compass's publication. | ||
| It's called Commonplace. | ||
| We're at commonplace.org. | ||
| We've done a lot on this CHIPS topic, and we're putting out a lot of stuff every week on exactly this set of challenges and the things that really matter in America. | ||
| Oren, thank you so much. | ||
| The cutting edge of all these different economic issues that geopolitical issues that we face. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| Great to see you. | ||
| Thank you, folks, over at American Compass. | ||
| Great work. | ||
| I got Brad. | ||
| Brad, give me your assessment of the economy. | ||
| Chips deal. | ||
| And then I got to get Harnwell in here before Tubberville, because I'm going to ask Senator Tubberville about Zelensky throwing his toys out of the pram. | ||
| What do you got for us today, Brad? | ||
| Morning. | ||
| Yeah, well, Oren had it right there. | ||
| We have lost our representative republic. | ||
| We have lost the Congress. | ||
| If you just look at the money, right, just follow the money. | ||
| Congress is not getting us out of any of the wars we're in. | ||
| They just passed legislation that said we cannot downsize the NATO troops, the tens of thousands of Americans over in Europe, right? | ||
| And so when it comes down to it, if you look at, you know, five years ago, we were all being censored. | ||
| President Trump was being censored. | ||
| Now he's got the guys in the dining room. | ||
| He's kind of in a hard spot because if you go against those guys, they just censor you again. | ||
| And so the solution, when the Republicans get in charge, right? | ||
| When Pelosi gets in charge, she was ruthless. | ||
| When the Republicans get in charge, we don't believe in our first principles. | ||
| You have to downsize these monopolies and these oligarchs, and there's no way around it. | ||
| Or the next time we lose power, you know exactly what's going to hit us. | ||
| Nancy Mace has a good piece on the budget in the New York Times today, what the Democrats know that we don't know. | ||
| And she just goes over it. | ||
| It's very well done. | ||
| The leadership, a small number of leaders put together bills. | ||
| There's no amendments allowed. | ||
| There's no open rules allowed anymore since 16. | ||
| Pelosi was ruthless. | ||
| Our leadership doesn't take any ground when we're in power. | ||
| We have bulletproof majorities on tons of issues that she lists. | ||
| Let me see if I can find them here. | ||
| Here they are. | ||
| Banning congressional stock trading. | ||
| 86% of voters are in favor. | ||
| Term limits. | ||
| 87% of adults in favor. | ||
| Voter ID, 76% of people support. | ||
| These are bipartisan supermajority positions. | ||
| And yet our guys can't figure out how to put these in play, right? | ||
| On immigration. | ||
| Where's the permanent piece? | ||
| Where's the border wall? | ||
| Where's the legislation that makes this stuff permanent? | ||
| Now you got Pritzker up in Illinois just I think I read today thousands and thousands of illegal criminals released under his watch. | ||
| And where's the Congress on this? | ||
| Trump cannot do it all himself, but we've got to retake our economy and put some basic principles in place. | ||
| I saw this monopoly merger of Netflix along with Warner Brothers. | ||
| That's problematic, no matter how that thing goes. | ||
| Now you've got Obama, Susan Rice, is on the board of Netflix, right? | ||
| What could go wrong with a monopoly position with Netflix taking over Warner Brothers, HBO, all of that, the narrative monopoly. | ||
| And they paid both Obama's handsomely for movies they made about them. | ||
| So it's not really the business, right? | ||
| It's not like we're anti-business or anti-capitalist. | ||
| We don't want the political tentacles in the middle of every single thing we're seeing. | ||
| The CHIP deal is absurd on its face, as Oren put it. | ||
| You can't put it any more clearly than that. | ||
| And we just got to get our ducks in a row. | ||
| And part of it is the pressure we need to put on these CEOs, right? | ||
| That's Steve. | ||
| That's why you're so good and why the show is so good. | ||
| You call out people individually, and the CEOs need to start being called out. | ||
| They've been given carte blanche, just like members of Congress, to hide, to hide under their desks, make money up to the last minute until Taiwan goes haywire, and then they're going to say, oh, my God, we've got to decouple. | ||
| And so it's politics entwined with the economics. | ||
| And I think Trump's going to be decisive in the coming weeks. | ||
| He's getting the word. | ||
| He's getting the memo, what's going on. | ||
| And so I'm looking forward to his comments. | ||
| Yeah, we'll start today in Pennsylvania. | ||
| Ben Harnwell, we got about a minute. | ||
| Team me up. | ||
| The audience, what happened in London? | ||
| Zelensky threw his toys out of the pram. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because he wasn't getting what he wanted. | ||
| What he really desperately needs is U.S. support. | ||
| That's the only credible military support that's going to win the war for him. | ||
| And the Europeans are reduced to the gesture and theatrics of offering solidarity based on their stealing, effectively, Russian frozen assets to the tune of 78 billion sterlings. | ||
| It's about less than $100 billion, a significant amount. | ||
| The Russians, Putin Lavov, say that will be an act of war against Russia on part of the Europeans. | ||
| After the break, Steve, I'll break this down more. | ||
| But we're not heading towards peace right now. | ||
| We are not heading towards peace. | ||
| But I think President Trump, you saw from the interview with Politico, Dasher Burns, I think he's fed up with these Europeans, the phoniness and the performative art of it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Stealing the Russian people's assets to pay for the war against their troops. | ||
| And there's a lot of blame to go around about what happened. | ||
| But one thing's for certain, the Ukrainians were goaded onto this, and now they have a destroyed country and 2 million casualties. | ||
| Think about that for a second. | ||
| Absolutely, totally, completely revolting what happened to those folks because of the Europeans and the globals. | ||
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I'll entertain a motion. | |
| Mr. Chairman, I'll make a motion to deny the application based on staff comments and what we've heard this evening. | ||
| Second. | ||
| I have a motion to second. | ||
| Second. | ||
| Second. | ||
| I have a motion to second. | ||
| All in favor say aye. | ||
| Aye. | ||
| All the roses. | ||
| We are a recommending body. | ||
| This will go to the council with a recommendation to deny to the council. | ||
| But the applicant has the right to go to the council and make their application to the council. | ||
| So I want you to understand we are a recommending body. | ||
| The council is the final say-so. | ||
| Does everybody understand? | ||
| The folks in Alabama are not sitting back and going to let these things happen to them. | ||
| They're using their agency. | ||
| So whether we're talking about Dearmore and Michigan or what's happened in Minneapolis or what's happened with Mamdani, you know, doing videos showing the illegal aliens how they basically fight ICE agents on deportations or in the great state of Texas, which is ramping up now. | ||
| Governor Abbott has now declared the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist organization and care a terrorist organization. | ||
| DeSantis followed, I think, yesterday, declared both terrorist organizations. | ||
| At the same time, you got, you know, Laura Loomer's up with a piece people should read on her Twitter about cash is over in Doha, and we're signing joint memorandums of understanding between Qatar and the FBI on joint investigations. | ||
| Maybe somebody will get to the, hopefully in that investigation, find out if Qatar is still financing the Muslim Brotherhood and supplying logistics for them, because that's a question we absolutely have to have answered, and we have to have it answered quickly since they're underwriting Gaza. | ||
| They're in partnership with Turkey. | ||
| A big part of the peace in Israel is going to come from Qatar and Turkey. | ||
| And that's got to be put on the table and kind of explained to people as we go forward. | ||
| Senator Tuberville joins us. | ||
| Senator Tuberville, what in the hell happened in Alabama? | ||
| And why did it take folks in Alabama to stand up and say this is not going to happen on our watch? | ||
| And it's certainly not going to happen in our town, sir? | ||
| Well, thank you, Steve. | ||
| People have to wake up. | ||
| And it's fortunate that we have got some strong people in Hoover, Alabama that did just that. | ||
| They stepped up. | ||
| This is a prime example, Steve, of why people need to be very concerned about people from other countries running for election in city councils, city commissions, zoning commissions, because they are going to control our communities and our states. | ||
| And it's going to ramp up and it's going to intermingle with everything with all 50 states and our great countries. | ||
| So I'm proud of the people of Hoover. | ||
| I'm proud of the people that went to the meetings, the zoning meetings says enough's enough. | ||
| We're not building a building here, an education building that preaches the Koran and Sharia law. | ||
| We're not going to do it because they preach to hate America and hate our country and hate the people that live in the community. | ||
| So I'm very proud of them. | ||
| Well, what is it? | ||
| What did it finally take to get average citizens? | ||
| Because you've seen what's happened in Minneapolis. | ||
| You know, Biden and Obama and these administrations, and quite frankly, we haven't dealt with it tough enough. | ||
| I mean, Omar, to me, should be denaturalized, put in prison here, and then shipped back to Somalia. | ||
| You see what's happening there, and this scandal is huge. | ||
| It's now in Maine. | ||
| You see Mamdani is sitting there mocking us to our face, doing videos now showing illegal aliens how they combat the ICE agents to combat the removal. | ||
| What was it about the folks in Hoover, Alabama that what is it about them? | ||
| They finally said, we're not going to do this anymore. | ||
| We don't care if we, because they're coming to, and they attack them. | ||
| When they stand up in those meetings, they get attacked afterwards as being haters and xenophobes and nativists and Christian nationalists. | ||
| What was it about them? | ||
| What was it about this quote unquote education center that finally hit their tripwire? | ||
| Yeah, well, a lot of them, and I've talked to people in the Hoover area that actually watch shows like yours and other shows across the country. | ||
| They don't watch mainstream media because you don't get the real picture of what's going on. | ||
| But they've seen this small school, this Islamic school in their community, and they've seen it pick up speed and starting to grow. | ||
| And what happened is they wanted to enlarge this school to start accepting more people in, even people that weren't Islamic, to start indoctrinating them in the things that they want them to believe. | ||
| And so they said, enough's enough. | ||
| And again, we have to talk about it. | ||
| We have to stand up and fight for what we believe in. | ||
| These people, now there's some people come over from some of these countries that want to come here for a better life. | ||
| And they're going to assimilate and go by the things that we believe in, go by our Constitution. | ||
| The Muslim group, Steve, this is World War III, okay? | ||
| And it's going to be on our soil. | ||
| And it's coming so fast within five or 10 years, it is going to be way out of control. | ||
| We have a prime example of this, Europe. | ||
| Europe is gone. | ||
| And they will have to fight in the streets to get it back. | ||
| And that's coming. | ||
| And so we do not want that to happen here. | ||
| And the people of Alabama, the people of Hoover saw this, and they want to stop it before it really gets started. | ||
| Don't let the fire start and get out of control. | ||
| And I'm so proud of what they did. | ||
| You talk about people awakening. | ||
| I mean, on this show, the folks, when it happened in Hoover, everybody's telling me, we got to get the Hoover people on here. | ||
| We got to do a show about them because they're showing about how populism works. | ||
| But President Trump, you know, the national security strategy, the first part, not the military, but the overall strategy came out. | ||
| And he said, hey, in 20 years, you've got a civilization collapse in Europe. | ||
| We don't even know who to partner with or what deals we can cut there because we don't know who's in charge. | ||
| Do people in the United States Senate understand that? | ||
| The people that keep trying to throw all this unbelievable amount of money and resources and troops into the European situation when they will not defend themselves, sir? | ||
| Yeah, well, I heard you talking about Ukraine before this and the out-of-control war that's been over there for four years that should have really never have happened. | ||
| It was caused really by Europe, by NATO, and by us, you know, CIA behind the scenes that overthrew the government back in what, 2014. | ||
| And so we've been watching people get slaughtered over there right and left on both sides. | ||
| They don't have a country now. | ||
| They've lost half their population. | ||
| As you said, a couple million people have either lost their lives or been maimed. | ||
| But all that happens because you don't talk about it. | ||
| What happens up here in Washington, D.C. is we don't talk about it. | ||
| I will give a speech this week on the floor, my third one, about this radical terrorism, Islamic terrorism. | ||
| And I'm taking heat from a lot of people, even from some of my people, because, hey, this, Coach, this is election year. | ||
| Well, who cares? | ||
| We're not going to have an election year in a few years if we don't start talking and fighting back now. | ||
| Now is the time to do it. | ||
| Talk to us about that. | ||
| You're giving speeches on the floor of the Senate as the United States Senator from Alabama. | ||
| You're talking about radical jihad and Islamic radicalism. | ||
| And people in the Senate are coming up to you and saying, you got to tone this down. | ||
| Well, all I can tell you is the rhetoric is they want it to be positive. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| They want everything to be positive going into election year. | ||
| Well, I'm on the ballot. | ||
| I'm not on the Senate ballot. | ||
| I'm on the governor ballot of Alabama. | ||
| And it doesn't bother me because if the people don't want me to come back there and speak the truth and say, listen, we're going to save our state, then I don't need to be there. | ||
| You know, if they don't want me to fight, they don't need me there. | ||
| But same thing with senators. | ||
| Don't ride the fence. | ||
| Tell them how it is. | ||
| Tell the people in your state how it is. | ||
| And if you don't get re-elected, go home, get you another job. | ||
| That's the way I look at it. | ||
| What about, you know, Mike Lee sent us some information. | ||
| We're going to have him on hopefully this afternoon, maybe tomorrow, about the mega bus, this whole fight to try to stop spending and to try to get these deficits down because we can't continue on at $2 trillion deficits annually. | ||
| But what I'm hearing is that there's some sort of spending bill that's trying to come together behind the scenes and put forward. | ||
| It's a mega bus. | ||
| It's not an omnibus, but it's as close to it, but it's got just an incredible amount of spending in it, no real cuts to it at all. | ||
| Anything you can share with us of what's going to happen here? | ||
| Yeah, there's a few cuts to it. | ||
| Now, we've passed, there's 12 appropriation bills. | ||
| We've passed three. | ||
| That's the first three we've passed, by the way, since I've been here in almost six years. | ||
| And so they passed those. | ||
| Now, we got to have five more that we'll try to pass in the next couple of weeks. | ||
| Now, what does that mean? | ||
| If we can pass those five bills, they won't have the ability to shut the government down when it comes to January because the Democrats are going to do that. | ||
| They're going to shut it down again because they feel like that that's a winning move for them. | ||
| And it's really not. | ||
| They were the reason that we shut down the government for 43 days. | ||
| But if there is a lot of spending in this, Steve, there's way too much spending. | ||
| We don't go over it and try to cut back a certain percentage. | ||
| You know, if you look at senators like Rand Paul, who wants to cut 1% every year, 2%, there's no traction to that because why is that? | ||
| Because people get reelected on the money that they spend up here. | ||
| But at the end of the day, it's going to get us all in trouble. | ||
| It's already got us in trouble. | ||
| 38 trillion and counting. | ||
| Every three months, we add another trillion on. | ||
| It's going to be devastating to the young people in our country, even to us, Steve, as we're seeing everything ramp up in terms of prices going up. | ||
| Everybody says prices are going up. | ||
| President Trump's not helping. | ||
| Well, wait a minute. | ||
| Prices go up when the federal government spends more money and people need to wake up. | ||
| That's what happens up here. | ||
| Is there any discussion behind the scene with your colleagues, understanding the financial cliff that we're hurdling towards? | ||
| And you just can't, it can't be business as usual. | ||
| Is there any discussion on that at all? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of discussion. | ||
| We talk about it. | ||
| And we are, our group now, the 53 that we have, for the most part, are physically responsible, want to cut back, want to do what the American people want is try to save this country from a financial collapse, which is coming. | ||
| There's more here than not. | ||
| The problem is it takes 60 votes to get anything done. | ||
| And people ask me, you know, Coach, you're not getting anything done up there. | ||
| Well, you put something on the floor. | ||
| You're not going to get one vote from the Democrats. | ||
| So I'm going to say this. | ||
| I was totally against busting the filibuster a few years ago because I saw how the Democrats act. | ||
| But now, knowing that the Democrats, the very first day when they take over, and it's going to happen sooner or later, they're going to bust the filibuster and it's going to be a 51-vote count. | ||
| I'm for doing it right now. | ||
| I'm for saving our country, getting people elected, getting all these bills passed that President Trump wants to pass through the voting regulations to where we can get back and people can trust our country's elections when we have them next fall. | ||
| If we don't do that, we'll probably lose the House, the way things are going right now, and even could lose the Senate. | ||
| But these voting rules have to be changed. | ||
| And the only way we can get it done, Steve, is bust the filibuster with 51 votes in the Senate. | ||
| You came and you were traditional, so that's why you didn't want to do it. | ||
| Is there anybody else joining you? | ||
| Are we close at all to changing the filibuster? | ||
| Do you think we even have close to the votes? | ||
| I think we could get right now probably more than half, maybe closer to 60, 65% when we sit down and really talked about it, because it's going to mean a lot of the futures up here of the senators. | ||
| They're not going to get re-elected. | ||
| I mean, we can fool ourselves if we don't do something and show the American people we're here to get something done for them. | ||
| We don't work for the Senate. | ||
| We work for the American people. | ||
| If we don't show them to do that, a lot of these people are going to get voted out. | ||
| And it might not be this year coming up, but it's going to be years of the future because what's going to happen is there's going to be an accumulation of bad things that are going to happen because we haven't done anything, like this unaffordable health care that we have. | ||
| We can't do anything about it because we can't change it because the Democrats won't allow us because of 60 votes. | ||
| If we don't show the American people the heck with the so-called tradition of what we do here in the Senate and just take it on and say, listen, we're going to change this country the way it should be, the way our forefathers wanted it to be. | ||
| And if it breaks their tradition and hurts somebody's feelings, fine. | ||
| But at the end of the day, we better start working for the American people and we're in about a United States Senate tradition. | ||
| Senator Tuberville, where do people go on social media to get you, sir? | ||
| At Senator Tubberville for senator and then at Coach for Gov running for governor. | ||
| Now, I've got a year left here. | ||
| I'm looking forward to working with President Trump. | ||
| Steve, we're in a this next year will be more lawsuits, more trials, more tribulation, and more things that will happen, whether we're going to save our country or not save it, because we can't wait another year on the physical ability and also this Muslim overtake of our country. | ||
| Senator Tuberville, thank you for the stark warning. | ||
| Appreciate you taking time away today, Dave, to join us. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
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| Senator Tuberville, listen and take that to heart, folks. | ||
| Short break. | ||
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We rejoice with a lobby. | |
| Let's take down the CCP. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| I'm going to go to Brian Glenn in a moment at the White House about President Trump today. | ||
| Before I do that, Ben, I had to bring you into this because of Senator Tuberville, what happened in Hoover, Alabama, folks ended up. | ||
| And Senator Tuberville said, hey, they're going to be war in the streets in Europe in five or ten years. | ||
| President Trump's national security strategy said 20 years. | ||
| Liz Truss, we had her on the other day, she said she thought that was optimistic, right? | ||
| That it would happen sooner than that. | ||
| Your thoughts, sir, particularly given this Ukraine situation and one of the reasons that there's no money, no troops, and President Trump, and he just was with Dasher Burns. | ||
| I'll play a little later in the next hour, was dumping all over the European leadership is because he's saying, hey, they've kind of lost their own countries. | ||
| Thoughts, sir? | ||
| So much to unpack in that question, Steve. | ||
| First of all, I have to pay tribute to Senator Tuberville and what he's done in Alabama in forcing this Islamic Academy of Alabama to drop its relocation plans. | ||
| He single-handedly, I think, made a massive contribution to his home state there. | ||
| Alabama is the quintessential part of the Bible belt. | ||
| I say this as a good Catholic, but that's exactly how Alabama should remain. | ||
| And I'd hate to see the word broken up with a hyphen dropped in Obama becoming part of the Koran belt. | ||
| So close that, move on to the strategic, the strategic review that was dropped a couple of days ago by the White House. | ||
| You know, President, the White House, echoing President Trump's thinking and that made a very astute point here. | ||
| And they were saying that the demographic changes in continental Europe is having a consequence on our domestic policy priorities. | ||
| And that has an influence as well with regards to NATO. | ||
| And that's an absolutely that point is spot on, Steve. | ||
| You look at France, for example, and that's its national policy now. | ||
| Domestic policy, also its external policy, its foreign policy, is totally dictated now by the fact that most of Paris, in terms of ethnic descent, is coming from North Africa. | ||
| That has reorientated the capital, and Paris has always been the lead as far as France as a country is concerned. | ||
| It's reorientated the capital and the whole nation of one of the EU's fundamental countries towards the Islamic sphere. | ||
| And that has consequences for NATO. | ||
| And President Trump was absolutely spot on to mention that. | ||
| Moving on to Ukraine, because all of these things tied together, actually, around this point, around the NATO point. | ||
| We mentioned this just before the break before Senator Tubberville. | ||
| President Zelensky threw his toys out of the plan, as you say, yesterday in Downing Street, in the White House. | ||
| And effectively, I would say it's the metaphorical equivalent of spitting directly in President Trump's face. | ||
| That's what I'd say that he's done. | ||
| President Trump has invested so much time and energy since he was inaugurated to finding a peaceful resolution of this war. | ||
| And Zelensky threw it back in his face simultaneously whilst trying to prepare the ground to bring the United States back into this war because that's the only feasible way he has of winning and maintaining the position which he announced yesterday that there will be no territorial concessions in the Donbass. | ||
| Why do I say, Steve, that all of these things are tied together? | ||
| Because even though we have, you know, I don't want to say that we were perhaps sceptical on the success of the 28-point plan, let's call it like that on this show. | ||
| Skeptical of the success. | ||
| It now appears that that 28-point plan is in the dustbin. | ||
| But the fundamental reason that the Europeans are still sort of walking along with the gangster swagger with regards to Russia is that they're because it's the whole NATO dynamic, Steve. | ||
| They can afford to do this. | ||
| Instead of building sort of constructive relations with Russia, trying to regularize that relationship, they're still doing the gangster swagger because America is still, via NATO, effectively underwriting continental Europe's security and stability. | ||
| So I would say, Steve, on this show, I would say, first of all, the President has got to say, I think now's the time after nearly 11 months, 10, 11 months of hard work on trying to produce a peace agreement. | ||
| He needs to say America is out. | ||
| Guys, have at it. | ||
| If you think you can, you know, to the Europeans, have at it. | ||
| If you think you can win this war, do it. | ||
| If you don't, don't, we're out. | ||
| But the second thing, Steve, and I say this one time on the show, is that I think it is astoundingly obvious, especially after the national security document of a couple of days ago, it is no longer in America's long-term interests to be a member of NATO. | ||
| I'm not saying NATO should be dissolved. | ||
| It has a purpose if it is maintained and financed by the European nations. | ||
| But America, the United States, has absolutely no benefit through this membership. | ||
| As I say occasionally, and I hand back to you on this point. | ||
| You know, LC, I think they let Sweden in, for example. | ||
| You know, you've got Lithuania there, you've got these Baltic countries. | ||
| In what worldly scenario is that going to be necessary for the salvation of America in a military theatre of war? | ||
| What situation is there ever going to be where America is about to bubble under? | ||
| And then they say, oh, what's that dust kicking up on the horizon? | ||
| Thank God, it's the cavalry. | ||
| It's the Lithuanians. | ||
| They're coming to save us. | ||
| The whole thing, Steve, it's a hoax, this idea of pooling massively, asymmetrically paired countries together because the risk is asymmetric. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| America needs to come out of the nate. | ||
| come out of NATO, encourage the Europeans to step forward, embrace with maturity their own needs, and then make that sell to the European peoples if that's what they think is going to be in their interest. | ||
| Yeah, they'll get turfed out because that would mean no national health care, no free college, no a month of August off, no retirements at 50, any of it. | ||
| Okay, Ben Harner will hang there. | ||
| We're going to have even a more intense hour next hour than we just had. | ||
| Brack's going to stick around. | ||
| Harnwell's going to stick around. | ||
| We're going to the White House. | ||
| Brian Glenn, the president is doing a pivot today, going to Pennsylvania with all these issues in the world. | ||
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And this, I think, kind of sums it up. | |
| People are talking about giving Ukraine their security and guaranteeing their security and guaranteeing their sovereignty on just a moment's notice. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Zelensky sits there with President Trump. | ||
| These kind of agreements, these understandings about the territory have been from the beginning and just out of nowhere. | ||
| No, we're not giving it an inch. | ||
| You can't trust them. | ||
| You can't depend upon them. | ||
| It's not possible. | ||
| It's time to cut it loose and let them go figure it out. | ||
| Cut it loose and figure it out. | ||
| The president heads to the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, Brian Glenn, is with us at the White House. | ||
| Short commercial break. |
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