Oct. 4, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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This Sunday at 10 a.m. | |
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| History sets sail. | ||
| I'm gonna have all folks from the Navy, national security experts. | ||
| You do not want to miss this. | ||
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President Donald J. Trump arrives in Norfolk, Virginia, aboard a mighty U.S. aircraft carrier. | |
| Fight, fight, fight, win-win-win. | ||
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As America celebrates 250 years of Navy power, brace yourself for missile launches, roaring jets, under his firepower, and the full force of America's sea strength on display. | |
| Hosted by Steve Bannon with live reporting from Jack Pasobic. | ||
| And Steve Gruber, Real America's voice, brings you this front row seat to freedom in motion. | ||
| It's not just coverage, it's a celebration of America's might. | ||
| RAV presents America 250, sea power and freedom. | ||
| Coverage begins this Sunday, 10 a.m. | ||
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| See you there. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| Here's the reason I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not gonna stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| MAGA Media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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| Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | ||
| It's Saturday, 4 October at Year of Our Lord 2025. | ||
| We kick off a very special weekend tomorrow from 10 a.m. Eastern Daylight Time, all the way to 5 and maybe even later if it goes that long. | ||
| We will be um commemorating and observing the 250th anniversary of the birth of the United States Navy. | ||
| And uh President Trump, it's a little earlier than the day, but that's because President Trump's available to go and uh review the fleet uh in a massive naval exercise will take place off the Virginia Capes tomorrow. | ||
| We're gonna cover it. | ||
| Start to finish our own Jack Pasobic, who actually be with the president. | ||
| Steve Gruber will be on one of the combatants, and we'll have you know 10 to 15 experts, analysts, observers to walk through uh naval strategy, geopolitics, the state of the United States Navy, all of it tomorrow starting at 10. | ||
| And uh we're gonna just have an incredible cruise. | ||
| Uh Captain Sean Spicer, actually, Sean Spicer's gonna be um uh sworn in as a captain on Tuesday back in Washington, D.C. So we'll have Captain Uh Sean Spicer. | ||
| We're gonna have Eric Prince, uh, I think Captain Fennell will get Captain Fennell on. | ||
| Uh, the entire crew that uh normally does national security here at the War and plus many others, specialist in um in naval warfare. | ||
| Admiral Massaw will join us at Rahall, a bunch of folks who don't want to miss this tomorrow. | ||
| Uh, very special. | ||
| And I want to thank our first guest this morning, and always an honor to start the show with uh Ambassador Monica Crowley. | ||
| First off, uh, Ambassador, you're what a whirlwind you guys have been on. | ||
| I've just I've never seen anything like it. | ||
| It's it's just absolutely extraordinary, and uh with the job you're doing is incredible, but the president of the United States never takes a day off. | ||
| I mean, on the one day he could get off, he's gonna be spending all day with the Navy, which I know they love it out to review the fleet. | ||
| And as you know, he's a uh he's a huge fan of victory at sea. | ||
| He knows that uh that Samuel Elliott Morrison was a 10-hour documentary film by heart. | ||
| Uh, and I know you're really looking forward to the more. | ||
| Can you walk us through it? | ||
| This is part of, I think this is Navy 250, but part of overall America 250. | ||
| Can you walk us through what it is and where are we in this uh commemoration celebration of America's 250th anniversary, ma'am? | ||
| Yes, of course. | ||
| It's great to see you, Steve. | ||
| Great to be with you, my friend. | ||
| Thank you so much for having me on this very special weekend. | ||
| You are exactly right that President Trump is superhuman. | ||
| He has superhuman energy, no days off. | ||
| Um, And in addition to my day job of being America's ambassador and chief of protocol of the United States, which is a 24-7 job because every world leader wants to come in and see President Trump. | ||
| They all love him. | ||
| They all want to have FaceTime with him. | ||
| And my office and I and I've got an extraordinary team. | ||
| We handle all of those diplomatic engagements for the President, the Vice President, and the Secretary of State. | ||
| But in addition to that day job, the President has also honored me and blessed me with a position as his administration's representative for all of the big US hosted events, including America 250, but also the FIFA World Cup we have coming next year, and the 2028 Olympic Games in Los Angeles. | ||
| I haven't even had time to think about the Olympic games yet, Steve. | ||
| But all of these great uh big US hosted events are coming down the pike, and we are now in the midst of America 250. | ||
| What you saw back in June was the first of several military anniversaries that the president is absolutely intent on celebrating because America's greatness, America's superpower status, none of that would be possible without 250 years of America's military greatness. | ||
| So back in June we had Army 250, and you saw that spectacular military parade. | ||
| Tomorrow we are going to be celebrating Navy 250. | ||
| And I know how much this means to you personally, Steve, as a former naval officer. | ||
| We're going to put on quite the celebration for you, for everybody who's put on that naval uniform over the last 250 years for the American people and really for a truly global audience. | ||
| Here's what we've got prepared. | ||
| You saw what we did with the Army. | ||
| Well, for the Navy, it's that in the water and more. | ||
| So we are going to have about 20,000 sailors present. | ||
| We're doing this at Naval Station Norfolk, as they say, Norfolk. | ||
| Um we are going to have the USS Uh Georgia H.W. Bush, which the president is going to be on. | ||
| We're also going to have the USS Harry S. Truman. | ||
| Um, and a lot of the the celebration is going to be taking uh place on the Truman and also on the pier. | ||
| So we've got about 20,000 sailors coming. | ||
| We're also going to have ships of all kinds. | ||
| We're going to have submarines, including nuclear submarines. | ||
| We are going to have naval aircraft, including a lot of top gun flyovers, which are going to be spectacular. | ||
| We're going to have special operations forces and units on the scene. | ||
| We're going to honor our our active duty, of course, our veterans, and we're going to have Gold Star families present as well. | ||
| The president and the first lady will both be there, as well as the Secretary of War, Pete Headset, and the Secretary of the Navy, John Phelan. | ||
| I'm also honored that they have asked me to speak prior to the president coming to the podium. | ||
| So I'm really looking forward to that. | ||
| It is going to be a landmark celebration, Steve, to honor and celebrate and tout 250 years of American naval supremacy, naval dominance, naval might, and we're going to put on quite a show. | ||
| No, I can't tell you people in the Navy couldn't be prouder of uh of this moment, and of course, uh you guys helping put it on. | ||
| Uh we just hope uh I know that the Navy's gonna shine. | ||
| Uh the Army was fantastic. | ||
| That parade was amazing, uh, particularly not just simply the marching and the and the and look at reviewing the troops, but uh the material that came up uh and and had that great uh look 30 to 45 minutes of just the greatest equipment that the Army has. | ||
| The Navy, I'm sure, show well yesterday. | ||
| What is the um is it I know there's gonna be a naval exercise, and I don't want to give too much specifics on the president's schedule, but are you gonna have the big event and speak first? | ||
| Is that gonna come later? | ||
| Is the naval exercise in the middle of it? | ||
| Have you guys worked that out yet? | ||
| Yes, so the run-of-show, and I know you're coming to air here tomorrow at 10 a.m. | ||
| The run-of-show really begins around 11 a.m. noon, and there are gonna be live fire exercises. | ||
| So you're you're gonna see ships of all kinds engaged in naval exercises, including aircraft, naval aviation is going to be a very prominent. | ||
| And as Jack Pasobick mentioned here yesterday, you're gonna be able to see it up and down the eastern seaboard. | ||
| The entire Atlantic test range is going to be involved in these live fire exercises midday tomorrow. | ||
| And of course, the president is going to be aboard a carrier ship. | ||
| We're going to have an entire carrier strike group present. | ||
| He's going to be aboard for this. | ||
| So what the general public and the people present tomorrow at Naval Station Norfolk is going to be able to see. | ||
| They're going to be able to see essentially what the president is going to be seeing right there on the cattle uh carrier battle ship. | ||
| So the entire thing that's going to be aired in, you'll be able to see it here, of course, on Real America's Voice, but also at Whitehouse.gov if you want to stream it. | ||
| You'll be able to see up close and personal in real time what the president is seeing aboard the ship. | ||
| And then he's going to come back to land and he is going to speak to the nation and everybody assembled, touting the tremendous successes throughout history. | ||
| Steve, and you know this very well, all of the victories at sea that the United States Navy has achieved from the Barbary Wars, which was really our first naval successes under President Thomas Jefferson, all the way through to today and what we are doing around the world in the world. | ||
| It is going to be spectacular. | ||
| No, we couldn't be more excited. | ||
| Tomorrow morning, we kick off our coverage at 10 a.m., and we literally have like 10 to 15 of the best, smartest, analyst, naval strategist, folks that are operators in the Navy, special forces, a couple of Navy SEALs. | ||
| Eric Prince and Tage Gill will join us, some operators, and we're going to have just – it's going to be spectacular. | ||
| We can't be more excited. | ||
| Ambassador, I don't want to put you on the spot, but you uh were aide de camp for Richard Nixon. | ||
| I think, along with President Reagan, could considered the two greatest um geopolitical thinkers as far as dealing with uh great powers. | ||
| Uh and you learned at uh at his hand. | ||
| Uh can you put in perspective what President Trump has done over the last seven or eight months, culminated in obviously a very difficult situation in Israel and Gaza, but looking like making huge progress. | ||
| Can you just put it in perspective given your understanding of Richard Nixon's view of the world? | ||
| Yes, and thank you for that question, Steve. | ||
| It's a really important one because I think a lot of people miss the historical context of what President Trump is doing because he is doing so much day-to-day at a breakneck speed that is very hard to keep up with. | ||
| And those of us in the administration have a hard time keeping up with everything that he is doing and achieving. | ||
| First of all, I worked with President Nixon during the last years of his life. | ||
| I was not born when he was elected president. | ||
| Just want to clarify that. | ||
| But I did work with him and talk to him about his presidency very often. | ||
| And I wrote two bestselling books about my experiences with President Nixon and those conversations. | ||
| And look, he was a true visionary. | ||
| And by visionary, I mean one of the rare American leaders who can see what the world is going to look like 20, 30, 40 years down the road and make American policy in office to anticipate that world. | ||
| We've had a few visionaries as president. | ||
| And I think Donald Trump is certainly one of them. | ||
| Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, you go back to FDR even, they achieved so much in the first hundred days of their presidency, the first year of their presidencies, frankly, throughout their presidencies, historic achievements in Nixon's case. | ||
| You had the opening to China, you had Dayton with the Soviet Union, you had Middle East shuttle diplomacy, you had domestic um uh bringing trying to bring the economy back in various ways. | ||
| You had the countercultural revolution that was happening underneath him, and of course the Vietnam War, which defined his entire presidency, and still he was able to achieve an enormous amount. | ||
| Donald Trump is that um steroids every day is a massive earth-shattering policy or initiative that is tr changing the trajectory of the country back To its foundational principles, as well as changing the trajectory of the world because now you have strong American leadership. | ||
| Ambassador social media, where do people get you at uh America 250 and over as your day job as uh head of protocol for the United States government, uh social media manager? | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Yes, on X Century Social, I am at Monica Crowley, and on Instagram, I am at Monica Crowley underscore. | ||
| Ambassador, thank you so much for joining us today on a Saturday to kick off the uh the weekend of commemoration celebration of Navy 250. | ||
| Thank you, ma'am. | ||
| It's gonna be very special. | ||
| Um, and uh, I think just like we did the Army celebration, we'll put in perspective where we are with our uniformed services as an amphibious readiness group is off the coast of Venezuela, and uh the president's team has briefed the Senate and saying, hey, we're at war with the cartels with non-state actors in Latin America, Central America, and Mexico. | ||
| We'll leave you here with Anchor Sobre. | ||
| We'll be back in a moment. | ||
| Fred Flights, former chief of staff of President Trump's National Security Council and Kurt Mills, the great Kurt Mills will join us next in the world Are you on Getter yet? | ||
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| Hamas said today that it agrees to release all Israeli hostages, a major part of the president's peace plan for Gaza. | ||
| Hamas says it is ready to immediately enter into negotiations to discuss the details of the deal. | ||
| The president released a statement saying the following quote: I believe they are ready for lasting peace. | ||
| Israel must immediately stop the bombing of Gaza so that we can get the hostages out safely and quickly. | ||
| Next week marks two years since those hostages were taken by Hamas during its attack on Israel, that also left more than a thousand dead. | ||
| Tens of thousands of people have died in Gaza since then. | ||
| Key part of that headline there that you just showed, Steph, is pending conditions. | ||
| This is known in the Middle East as the yes, but response. | ||
| Uh, and I think it is uh uh uh an important moment, perhaps an opportunity, as as I know millions of people around the world would hope that it is an opportunity for peace, but what it is right now is a yes but and it suggests that Hamas is willing to go into negotiations that might establish the conditions. | ||
| Uh, it's not clear yet from their statement exactly which parts of the 20-point peace plan they agreed to, which they don't. | ||
| They did say they're not ready to release the hostages under the 72-hour time clock that was initially mentioned as part of President Trump's proposal. | ||
| But I do think that this response from Hamas combined with President Trump appearing to accept it, now puts a lot of pressure back on Israel and its prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu. | ||
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How will they respond? | |
| Okay, we got Fred Flights and Kurt Mills. | ||
| So Kurt, I'll start with you. | ||
| Um The Reporting Times there's reporting that uh Whitkoff is uh is headed to Egypt uh to that resort there on the uh on the Red Sea, and uh where they're gonna negotiate this or work out the terms of of actual doing the transition. | ||
| Israel sending um uh one of their their ambassador that's um very close to Netanyahu, he's going. | ||
| So it's the most it's the most senior level to do this. | ||
| Plus, President Trump put out a true social that ordered Israel to stop bombing, right? | ||
| Which is interesting that you gotta order them. | ||
| Because once again, just like in the in the Iranian situation, they're gonna take they're gonna continue to bombing until you tell them to stop. | ||
| Or in Trump's case, order them to stop. | ||
| Netanyahu put up a uh a post, correct me if I'm wrong last night, basically conceding he was gonna do this. | ||
| The Times of Israel and the Jerusalem Post are both reporting that he ain't happy about it, but they he feels that the people around him feel that Trump has him boxed in and he's got to do this. | ||
| However, correct me if I'm wrong, you just informed me he took it down overnight, and it's it's saying it was taken down by the author. | ||
| His his uh tweet showing that um he was going to comply with this, sir. | ||
| That appears to be the case. | ||
| I mean, this is from his office, so it's put out, but you know, like this just be like the White House's account. | ||
| So it shows this and it says it's down now. | ||
| Um, I don't think this is a grand surprise because we can see uh who the Israeli prime minister's allies, what they've been saying uh late Friday night, early Saturday morning uh in Washington about this. | ||
| They've been complaining about it. | ||
| They've been saying the president has made a mistake, they said uh that no deal's been inked, they've been uh overtly threatening Hamas, which you know, not nice guys, but they are the people that want to do the deal, and it's very clear they're unhappy. | ||
| Netanyahu doesn't uh have to say it, his surrogates in the media and in politics can say it. | ||
| And Lindsay Graham, the president's good friend, and of course uh the uh unchallenged America first senator, he himself was whipping against the deal as soon as it was it was assigned. | ||
| You saw it in uh the president's West Wing address, Rover Office Address. | ||
| He looks happy, and he highlighted a number of countries in the region, including Egypt, Qatar, Jordan, and on, and he did not single out Israel. | ||
| So it appears to be a redux of really where we were before the spring uh before the summer, which is that the president was willing to work with everybody in the region, uh, but Israel is not getting any special privileges. | ||
| And we've seen this show before, even before the president was sworn in. | ||
| Winkoff did a deal uh that created a ceasefire in the war, and Israel broke it in March. | ||
| And so this is another uh example of the president's instincts towards peace and not being a supplicant of a foreign power. | ||
| But look, here here here's here's the and this falls directly on the shoulders of Lindsey Graham and Tel Aviv Levin and this crowd of Israel first. | ||
| They brought this on because uh their uh their promotion of Netanyahu and blind loyalty to Netanyahu and not what was best for Israel, because you have a situation now, correct me if I'm wrong. | ||
| You call it what you want, but this um and by the way, Hamas has to go through it. | ||
| Remember, they're just a they're the franchisee of the Muslim Brotherhood. | ||
| They always snatch, they have a tendency to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory all the time. | ||
| Very tough to control. | ||
| Although the president's united, at least the Gulf Emirates and the Arabs more than Lawrence of Arabia in this matter, and also the attack of Netanyahu on Qatar. | ||
| Uh and Qatar are, I think are terrible guys, right? | ||
| They're the financiers of the Muslim Brotherhood. | ||
| But what you have is Gaza is a proto-Palestinian state. | ||
| You're gonna have the Gulf Emirates led by Qatar finance this. | ||
| No Palestinians are leaving. | ||
| Uh, I think the way it reads, you're gonna have an Arab security force, right? | ||
| And uh obviously Hamas lays down their arms and and all that gives up their military operation. | ||
| But you have a Palestinian state, you're gonna have a proto-Palestinian state in Gaza in the territory of Israel, number one. | ||
| Number two, uh, unlike the Israel first crowd was bragging the other day about Judea Samaria, it absolutely forbids any any um any Israel uh takeover or truusion with the settlers in the uh uh in Judeo-Sumaria. | ||
| Uh so that's off the table. | ||
| And they're talking about adding the Persians or the Iranians to the Abraham Accord. | ||
| So the Greater Israel project crashes and burns. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because of the American sponsors of Netanyahu, and I told you this was gonna happen, and now it's happened. | ||
| Okay, and they can spin it any way they want to spin it, and they can try to kill it any way they kill it. | ||
| President Trump's not gonna let this be killed. | ||
| This was a master stroke, a master stroke. | ||
| I've never seen anything. | ||
| This is one of the most impressive uh turn of events I've ever seen from any president of the United States. | ||
| It's incredible. | ||
| This I almost put in the same level of Nixon in China, not quite, but uh, and of course, President Trump's got a couple of things he's working on in Ukraine and uh with the CCP. | ||
| But Kurt, am I wrong in that? | ||
| Is that the Israel first uh sponsors, uh cheerleaders, promoters led this. | ||
| And you're gonna have to understand Netanyahu's visit the other day was a humiliation. | ||
| Let me be sp specific. | ||
| It wasn't just his arrival, which was like an Uber driver picking up uh uh picking up a uh affair with no color guard, etc. | ||
| When Netanyahu came out and lied about what the apology was to Cutter, oh, I just all I did was apologize for killing the security guy. | ||
| The White House immediately put out that photograph of Netanyahu reading the document that was tied that was given to him by Whitkop and Kushner the day before with a full apology with the president of the United States holding the phone and giving him the look that only Trump can give you. | ||
| And him like uh, you know, uh a uh uh a uh vassal state reading the apology. | ||
| And so finally they are acting like a protectorate, and this is what President Trump has gone to. | ||
| In the Israel first crowd, you have nobody to blame but yourself for this situation. | ||
| You have a Palestinian, you have a two-state solution. | ||
| For all the people supported Israel for so many years, and said we can't have a two-state solution. | ||
| You have a two, you can call it anything you want. | ||
| When you've got the Arabs financing it, when you have an Arab security force in Israel, on Gaza, it's that's a proto-Palestinian state, and when you have any involvement or any expansion to the West Bank or Judea Samaria blocked, and you're gonna add Iran to the President Trump's openly talking. | ||
| I want to add him to the Abraham Accords. | ||
| The Greater Israel Project is over. | ||
| It crashed and burned because of the American sponsors that cheerleaded on Netanyahu and didn't take the warning from people who said, hey, if you keep doing this, you keep blindly uh uh backing this guy, it's all gonna crash around you, and it has crashed around you. | ||
| Now, Kurt Mills, where am I wrong in that assessment, sir? | ||
| I don't think you're wrong on most of any of it. | ||
| Um, I would say the the key reality is if it holds, which is the always the boring answer on this. | ||
| I I spoke with at some length with a longtime Israel Palestinian negotiator uh late last week or late this week. | ||
| Um, and you know, we were kind of going back and forth on it, and you know, Tony Blair was all over this proposal, and so we were both kind of like I don't know if this is gonna really gonna work. | ||
| And then it would sort of occurred to both of us that actually uh the Palestinians may call the Israelis bluff. | ||
| Why not accept it? | ||
| Uh if this is actually a deal on offer, they can take it, and it's uh a pathway uh for them to potentially keep their lives and their people stay in their land. | ||
| And sure enough, that's what happened, and the bluff was called. | ||
| And the Israelis are utterly panicking. | ||
| And you know, people uh who don't share the perspective that I have uh that the Israelis are asking for way too much, that the Israelis are trying to dominate our politics, that the Israelis uh will never stop if we don't stop them, frankly. | ||
| Uh, are they act like this came out of a void? | ||
| This came out of nothing. | ||
| Uh the reality is that this has hijacked and sabotaged President Trump's presidency. | ||
| This is all we are talking about. | ||
| And you know, as much as I like to talk about Middle East issues, uh, it's not terribly great for the United States that all we are talking about is a foreign country's problem. | ||
| What I said what I what I said the national conservative, yeah. | ||
| What I said the National Conservative Convention, just like in the Seven Pillars of Wisdom, when the generals schooling uh T. E. Lawrence, he said, hey, the the Middle East is a sideshow to the main event, the Western Front, and the Arab Revolt is a sideshow to a sideshow. | ||
| That's exactly where we are today in American geopolitic. | ||
| The Middle East is a sideshow in the Israel situation is a sideshow to a sideshow. | ||
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| What galls me is the cheerlead is the cheerleaders, the cheerleaders who followed Netanyahu because he's doing it for his own political concerns, not for the defense of Israel. | ||
| And now you are where you are. | ||
| And I don't get me wrong, Hamas are as bad as they get, right? | ||
| The Muslim Brotherhood is bad as they get, and Cutters, I think worse. | ||
| But you got to face certain political and geopolitical and financial realities. | ||
| Okay, short break. | ||
| Uh Kurt's gonna stick around. | ||
| Fred Flights is going to join us, and we're also going to expand it, have a chat about the kinetic war in Ukraine. | ||
| Next in the war room. | ||
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| This Sunday at 10 a.m. | ||
| Eastern, history said sail. | ||
| I'm gonna have all folks from the Navy, national security experts. | ||
| You do not want to miss this. | ||
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President Donald J. Trump arrives in Norfolk, Virginia, aboard a mighty U.S. aircraft carrier. | |
| Fight, fight, fight, win, win, win. | ||
| As America celebrates 250 years of Navy power, brace yourself for missile launches. | ||
| Rowing chess, thunderous firepower and the full force of America's sea strength on display. | ||
| Hosted by Steve Bannon with live reporting from Jack Vasobik. | ||
| And Steve Bruber, Real America's Voice, brings you this front row seat to freedom in motion. | ||
| It's not just coverage, it's a celebration of America's mighty. | ||
| Brav presents America 250. | ||
| Sea power and freedom. | ||
| Coverage begins this Sunday, 10 a.m. | ||
| Eastern. | ||
| See you there. | ||
| I want to thank the team over Real America's Voice who's had some great specials recently. | ||
| The Army 250, of course, the commemoration and celebration of Charlie Kirk's life, and then tomorrow for seven hours, maybe longer if it keeps going. | ||
| Uh, we'll have to see. | ||
| Interesting thing about tomorrow is it's supposed to end at five 5 p.m. Eastern daylight time tomorrow. | ||
| And at 6 p.m., the president gave Hamas the other day a play me or trademate. | ||
| They said, hey, he said, hey, the deadline six, you're in or you're out. | ||
| Uh, and if you're out, that's fine, but all hell will break loose. | ||
| Now they're heading towards uh the resort on the Red Sea in Egypt. | ||
| Um, which I think is pretty close to Aqaba, which was Lawrence of Arabia's great victory uh with the beginning of the Arab Revolt with uh Faisal's army and others. | ||
| Fred Flights, um, you're an old hand at this. | ||
| Walk us through first off the scale. | ||
| I mean, I think people that haven't worked this problem for decades, don't understand the scale of this solution is pretty breathtaking, is it not, sir? | ||
| It is, and I said in an American Greatness piece yesterday that this peace plan put Trump put forward, this 20-point peace plan really is a masterpiece because he has the Israelis and the Arabs and the Palestinian Authority endorsing it, which is really unprecedented. | ||
| And he did this because he has language in there that Israel would never have accepted before, and that is it contemplates a role for the Palestinian Authority for governing Gaza, and it said there may be a future pathway for a Palestinian estate. | ||
| These are phrased as distant aspirations when the Palestinians de-radicalize, but it is unprecedented. | ||
| But just that language got the Saudis and the Palestinian Authority on board. | ||
| This leaves Hamas with no with nowhere to go. | ||
| That they don't want to accept this deal. | ||
| They're not, they don't have any allies. | ||
| Having said that, Hamas's response is a clever no. | ||
| They have not agreed to disarm, they have not agreed to destroy their weapons, they have ruled out the idea of an international force governing Gaza, and uh they're basically putting themselves in the position where they're dangling the idea of releasing the hostage up front. | ||
| So when the U.S. and Israel reject this deal and they may have to, they will be blamed. | ||
| It's a clever rejection, but the beauty of the Trump plan is that the world can move on without Hamas in rebuilding Gaza. | ||
| It has provisions that areas that have been cleared of terrorists will start to be uh uh uh occupied by this international force where rebuilding will begin. | ||
| Trump's not not gonna let Hamas continue to have a terrorist veto. | ||
| He's not gonna let Israel occupy Gaza. | ||
| It's a brilliant plan. | ||
| It certainly qualifies Trump for the Nobel Prize, and it may provide a model for solving other difficult disputes, such as Ukraine. | ||
| Fred, for the audience and for me, help me out. | ||
| How does the the sponsor here is Qatar? | ||
| How does Hamas have even flexibility when they're gonna be cut off a money? | ||
| Qatar wants to make this do you can tell, or at least on the surface. | ||
| Well, how can Hamas expect to operate if if uh Qatar and UAE and the Saudis are adamant that we got to bring this thing to a close and we're prepared to pull up the money and even put up the uh the security guarantee as far as troops go to oversee it? | ||
| How does Hamas say no to that? | ||
| They really can't. | ||
| They have nowhere to go, and they're not gonna get their funding from Iran either. | ||
| Hamas will eventually become uh an irrelevant party. | ||
| I mean, it's gonna be a movement, it's gonna be a terrorist movement that'll probably be around for a long time. | ||
| There's lots of terrorist movements that are still active, even though they were set back substantially U.S. military action. | ||
| But with the Arab states united in ending this conflict, they think Hamas is an annoyance also. | ||
| I think we could have a glide path to peace because of Trump's stubborn determination to stop this war. | ||
| In the law of unintended consequences, how did Netanyahu and his sponsors here in the United States get into a situation where they're going to have a protocol? | ||
| Because if this deal closes, you have a two-state solution, right? | ||
| You have the Arabs financing, the Arabs securing a part of a significant part of Israel that is essentially under you can call it what you want, but it's under Arab control. | ||
| You've blocked really the uh Judeo-Sumaria expansion, and President Trump, if that all happens, President Trump will work like crazy to add the Iranians into the Abraham Accords. | ||
| How does a group that was adamantly opposed to all of that end up in a situation where this is the deal that is Trump's kind of told him, hey, this is the deal. | ||
| And remember, he didn't have Netanyahu a pine to this thing. | ||
| Netanyahu made some changes about the withdrawal schedule, but he wasn't looking for his opinion. | ||
| How did they get themselves in that situation? | ||
| First, let me say Iran's not going to be part of the Abraham Accords. | ||
| That that's just that's just not going to happen. | ||
| And this whole process is going to be overseen by a board of peace that President Trump will be in charge of. | ||
| This is not going to be run by the Arabs. | ||
| There'll be an Arab force in Gaza. | ||
| There also will be European states. | ||
| I think there's concern, and the concern you raise is significant. | ||
| But let's keep in mind that Israel wants endorsed a two-state solution. | ||
| And if the Palestinians can be de-radicalized, and that's required under the agreement to have a Palestinian state, Israel might be able to accept it. | ||
| That was its position a long time ago, certainly before the October 7th attack. | ||
| So, I mean, there's a lot of conflicting opinions here. | ||
| A lot of it's still driven by the aftermath, the October 7th attack. | ||
| But I think we could be close to peace because of what Trump has been putting forward. | ||
| Let's go back to the board, the Board of Peace and if President Trump's the chairman. | ||
| But he's got a couple of three-day jobs, right? | ||
| And I understand it's the Board of Peace. | ||
| But the guy and the guy running it is Tony Blair. | ||
| Correct me if I'm wrong. | ||
| Is Tony Blair not on the payroll cutter to like 20 million bucks a year, sir? | ||
| He's a he Tony Blair is a lackey for UAE, for Qatar. | ||
| He's he's been over there sucking down cash. | ||
| He's essentially an Englishman representing the Arabs. | ||
| Am I incorrect there? | ||
| Well, you have information on Blair that I don't know. | ||
| But if Trump is not running it, I imagine he's going to have uh Secretary Rubio or another prominent senior American national security official uh be his proxy. | ||
| It's not going to be run by Tony Blair. | ||
| Okay, you know Hamas is one of the buddy. | ||
| What's the what's the Fred flights uh Saturday morning for October? | ||
| So before the 6 o'clock deadline tomorrow, what what where do you put what's the probabilities? | ||
| What's your percentage of probabilities that Hamas they're gonna negotiate now in uh in uh in Egypt at this resort on the Red Sea? | ||
| Um what what is I think Dermer's there representing Netanyahu, of course he's Netanyahu's right-hand man. | ||
| Whitkoff's there. | ||
| Uh I know Qatar's gonna have people there. | ||
| I'm sure Hamas have people there. | ||
| What's the probability this closes along the lines as stated today? | ||
| I mean, this process first shows that Trump didn't immediately reject Hamas's answer. | ||
| He's giving them an opportunity through diplomacy to show he's willing to deal. | ||
| Maybe there's some elements of the plan that could be modified to get Hamas to come on board. | ||
| I don't know what they are, but I think Trump Trump's a deal maker. | ||
| We know that. | ||
| But I'm afraid because of Hamas's hatred of Israel, hatred of Jews, I think the chances of them agreeing to this, something that Israel can agree to is probably 10% or less. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Uh Kurt Mills, observation thoughts. | ||
| I know you have a different perspective, but I also ask you for the probability along the general lines that we have today that this deal closes, as is. | ||
| I think we're gonna get a deal this weekend base case. | ||
| I put it over 50%. | ||
| The president is excited about this. | ||
| And I think the reality is that Hamas it can't be two things at once. | ||
| It can't be this all-powerful, all-menacing terrorist organization and a decimated military force that is a quote annoyance to the Arabs. | ||
| The reality is Hamas has a few cards to use the president's uh terminology. | ||
| But basically the moderate wing of Hamas has been in control because the Israelis have assassinated them all in the last two years. | ||
| And I think we are reaching up, you know, days from the two year anniversary of October 7th. | ||
| And for the Israelis to basically sabotage yet another deal, uh, I think would be really a bridge too far. | ||
| I think we will have something inked base case. | ||
| I don't rule out that the Israelis can sabotage it uh before 6 p.m. on Sunday, but I think it is at this point unlikely because of how publicly happy President Trump is with the results here. | ||
| I think we will get something, and then the open questions will be how does this look? | ||
| How does this look? | ||
| How does this look? | ||
| But again, yes, the president may chair this board, and here's where I agree that you know he's got a lot of things going on. | ||
| What is the what are the U.S. interests in this region? | ||
| I mean, we're we're talking about a pathway towards demilitarization of the most radical arm of the Palestinian cause. | ||
| We're talking about uh something that has broad regional buy-in, and we're talking about a pathway uh towards you know ending wars in the region and getting the U.S. out militarily. | ||
| Um, I inclined to agree that something like Iran joining the Abrahamic force is unlikely. | ||
| Uh, but that being said, ruling it out. | ||
| I mean, the president's instincts here, uh, he just moves the overseer window. | ||
| Why not have a conversation like that? | ||
| Why does it always have to be regime change, regime change, regime change? | ||
| Iran's a complex country. | ||
| Um, I'm not really sure we should be picking winners and losers in any country, uh, especially in the Middle East. | ||
| Oh, oh, oh. | ||
| I think a President Trump is people understand when he said the total obliteration at the end of the 12-day war. | ||
| There's not gonna be any regime change. | ||
| Everybody, and that's another another of the Israel first crowds fantasies. | ||
| It's not gonna happen on Donald Trump's watch. | ||
| You told you for 12 days, and Netanyahu now coming up and said, Well, we never really plan to have total obliteration on one of the cards. | ||
| It's all everything he's everything that comes out of his mouth, is a bald face lie. | ||
| One of the most dangerous individuals in the world. | ||
| If we need regime change, you ought to use this deal to have regime change in Jerusalem and get some people in there that can deal straight with the Americans and not the Israel First Crowd is as much to blame here as Netanyahu. | ||
| Uh, Fred, uh let's say even 10% where this week, make the case for Donald Trump as the recipient in the awardee of the Nobel Peace Prize, sir. | ||
| I I would make that, and I I'd and I'd also mention some things with Kurt that I agree with. | ||
| Remember Trump's speech in Saudi Arabia that America should not have permanent enemies. | ||
| He wanted peace through strength and commerce. | ||
| This was a message to both to Iran and to China and to other adversaries that we don't want to be at permanent war with these nations. | ||
| We don't want to have people who we are uh constantly planning military action or through overthrowing regimes. | ||
| Trump does not want to do that. | ||
| I agree, that's not gonna happen in this administration. | ||
| But I think the outline of this Gaza peace plan is more than sufficient to qualify Trump to get the Nobel Peace Prize. | ||
| And as I said earlier, regardless of whether Hamas accepts it, there will be peace in Gaza, it will be rebuilt, hopefully with Hamas's cooperation, but the world is gonna move on regardless of what Hamas decides. | ||
| Uh Fred, can you hang on for a second and Kurt? | ||
| I want to get to uh some uh concerning developments in the kinetic part of the third world war on the Eurasian land mass, yes, in the bloodlands, that would be Ukraine, which I think is ten times more dangerous than what we're dealing with the Middle East. | ||
| And Kurt, I will tell you and get your answer on the on the thing. | ||
| I think that they look at uh major business and financial relationships with Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Qatar. | ||
| I think it's just been a sea change. | ||
| I agree with uh with Brother Flights. | ||
| I think when President Trump, that meeting they had this year was quite different than the meeting we had in the opening six months of the first term. | ||
| I just think it's a total sea change. | ||
| And cutter, of which I'm not a fan of, and still say that hey, they're the they're the railhead of the financing of the Muslim Brotherhood, is a whether you like it or not, they're a major player. | ||
| Anyway, short commercial break. | ||
| We're gonna pivot to Ukraine. | ||
| President Trump this week, I agree with Fred. | ||
| If anybody ever deserved a Nobel Peace Prize for what this man has taken on and tried to solve is incredible and solved. | ||
| Or at least laid the framework for making it plausible to solve. | ||
| Leave you with anchors away. | ||
| We're going to be back in the warm in just a moment. | ||
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| Fred, um you wrote I this to talk to me about this brilliant piece. | ||
| You're you're saying, hey, any escalation, any anything of these advanced weapons systems, it's advanced weapons systems that can hit long distances, sharing of intelligence and maybe even targeting acquisition by the United States would be a massive escalation in Ukraine. | ||
| Give us your assessment as we sit here today with President Trump spending his time now trying to sort this mess out in Gaza. | ||
| What is going on in Ukraine and why are you why are you sending up a flair to say I don't think people are paying enough attention to this, but we could be slipping down the we could be sliding down the road to perdition here, sir. | ||
| Steve, I want to first thanks for having me on today. | ||
| This has been a great discussion. | ||
| There's talk right now that Zelensky wants to acquire U.S. Patriot cruise missiles. | ||
| They have a range of 1,500 miles. | ||
| The Ukrainian border is about 500 miles from Moscow. | ||
| This would allow Ukraine to destroy buildings in Moscow, including the Kremlin. | ||
| There's talk of giving Ukraine other long-range missiles and intelligence to strike deeper into Russia. | ||
| And this leaves us to ask the question: when is the U.S. crossing the line between providing defensive support to Ukraine to kick the Russians out of Ukraine and go into war with Russia? | ||
| I think giving Patriots to Ukraine would constantly go into war with Russia and will result in Russia taking appropriate responses, possibly firing missiles into NATO countries. | ||
| I don't think anyone's thinking this through. | ||
| The implications of giving such a major military capability to the Ukrainian army. | ||
| And look, I like Ukraine. | ||
| I want Ukraine to win. | ||
| They're not going to win back most of their territory. | ||
| I think we may be able to get an armistice if Trump continues to press forward with top of economic and energy sanctions. | ||
| But letting Ukraine escalate the war, greatly escalate the war like this, I think will have far-reaching consequences that could start a much larger regional war. | ||
| Okay, walk me through. | ||
| President Trump would say, hey Fred, I hear you, but I've been over backwards. | ||
| I went to Alaska. | ||
| I've tried to do everything possible to uh to get Putin on board here. | ||
| And for whatever reason, his relationship with the Chinese Communist Party, the fact that Germany and the Western Europe still buys only gas from him. | ||
| Uh, they don't seem to want to uh come to a situation where we can have a discussion about maybe going back to the original, you know, they keep the Dumbask in the in the eastern Russian speaking regions in Crimea, but he's not even prepared to have that discussion, it appears. | ||
| President Trump's bent over backwards. | ||
| So what would your President Trump is saying, hey, I've tried everything. | ||
| I need I need some piece of look. | ||
| I agree with you 100%. | ||
| But I think the counterargument, particularly people around Trump are saying you've done everything. | ||
| You need another part of leverage. | ||
| He's he's he's insulted them on true social, your army's nothing. | ||
| This should have been done in three weeks. | ||
| You're a we're not a superpower. | ||
| Uh isn't this looked at as a point of leverage for the president to basically warn we're gonna give Tomahawks and Patriot missiles uh to Ukraine and potential uh targeting information, which I agree with you would make us a combatant, right? | ||
| I happen to think we're a combatant now, of course because what's happened out of Visbaden, where essentially the CIA and other guys are running this war, and that's how you had the deep strike into into with the drones into Russia. | ||
| But what would you tell the president? | ||
| He's gonna say, Fred, I hear you, but I can't get this guy to the table. | ||
| Steve, you and I know that God created us with free will, and we can use that free will to make good decisions or bad decisions, to pursue good or evil. | ||
| Trump really did go out of his way to create off ramps and an opportunity for Putin to do the right thing. | ||
| He's decided to do the wrong thing because his fanatical views about NATO and Ukrainian nationality and all kinds of nonsense we've heard spout it. | ||
| But the next step is to put pain on Putin to bring him to the negotiating table to get past this unreasonable line of thinking. | ||
| That's why I think crippling economic sanctions and energy sanctions, that's what we have to do, not escalate the war. | ||
| Now, Trump's not going to give Patriots and uh uh Tomahawk missiles to Putin. | ||
| He's too smart for that. | ||
| And he he I do think he's gonna give additional military uh support to Ukraine, but there's gonna be a limit. | ||
| Trump doesn't want to escalate to the point where we're looking at a regional war or a world war. | ||
| But Trump also wants Europe to play its part. | ||
| Europe bought $1.8 billion in energy from Russia last year, and they're not going to stop until 2027. | ||
| Europe has to help, and it has to initiate secondary sanctions, as we do. | ||
| So they don't swoop in and take advantage of economic opportunities when we're sanctioning nations to end the war in Ukraine. | ||
| Europe has to be part of this. | ||
| They have to stop lecturing Trump about being too close to Putin and doing serious things to stop the war. | ||
| Fred, what's your social media? | ||
| Where do people get your writings? | ||
| American Greatness, all of it. | ||
| Uh, you can go to X or to uh uh uh different other accounts at Fred Flights, and our website is uh America First Policy.com. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Appreciate you taking Saturday and joining us. | ||
| I'm gonna pose upon Kurt Mills to stick around for a few minutes. | ||
| Also have Mark Kerkorian CIS and updates on the left's meltdown on Project 2025 and Russ vote in the team that are running this uh government shutdown. |
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