Oct. 4, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| Up tonight because we've got a lot to go through. | ||
| Peter Wolfgang, the executive director of the Connecticut Family Institute. | ||
| Peter, you wrote a fascinating article just a couple of days ago, um, discussing the this theory, the thesis of gay washing in the latest translations of the Bible. | ||
| I'm gonna ask you to break this down a little bit. | ||
| But before I do, I just want to be specific here about the edition of the Bible that we're using. | ||
| I uh I use the Ignatius Study Bible, right? | ||
| Which is the um let me get this right. | ||
| It's the the new revised standard version, second Catholic edition, okay. | ||
| Um and the version we're talking about now is the new revised standard version, updated edition, catholic edition. | ||
| Right, okay, that's a bit of a that's a bit of a breathful. | ||
| However, the importance of this, um, first of all, the the somewhat dodgy translations here have been highlighted really by the Protestants. | ||
| But the interest to Catholics is that the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, the USCCB, has now authorized this version. | ||
| That's where it becomes important because authorized for uh for home use and presumably further down the line for liturgical use as well. | ||
| So, Peter, why don't we start off and discuss um the term that that's capturing our interest for the next 20 minutes, which is used, I think both in 1 Corinthians but also in a letter to Timothy. | ||
| What does that word mean? | ||
| Why don't you start off with saying what has that word always mean meant in the last 2,000 years? | ||
| Uh, and what does it mean by the stroke of a pen today? | ||
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Well, Ben, first of all, thank you. | |
| It's a great honor uh to be on your show, and you're asking me specifically about an article that I wrote this week for Catholicculture.org. | ||
| People can go to that website and read it. | ||
| Uh, it's up right now. | ||
| The article is titled Bishops Approve Gay Washed Bible. | ||
| And um the word that you're talking about is I'm probably gonna mispronounce it myself, but it is a Greek word. | ||
| It is found in both 1 Corinthians 6, verse 9 and 1 Timothy 1, verse 10. | ||
| It's the only two times in the New Testament that that word appears. | ||
| St. Paul coined the word himself, and the word, the Greek word is arson oite, arsenokoite. | ||
| And what that word has always been understood to mean uh until the most recent translation of the New Revised Standard Version Bible, the updated edition, is men who have sex with men. | ||
| Uh it's one of St. Paul's two condemnations of homosexual practice that appears in the New Testament. | ||
| And the reason I use the word gay wash, that phrase, it does not originate with me. | ||
| I am quoting a Protestant scholar by the name of Robert A. J. Gagnan. | ||
| He is one of the foremost scholars on the Bible and homosexuality. | ||
| And he was the one who sounded the alarm uh three years ago when the New Revised Standard Version updated edition. | ||
| I'm going to refer to it as the N R S V U E for short, although that's already six letters, it's already a mouthful. | ||
| Um, but he was the one who first sounded the alarm when the NRS V UE came out three years ago that for the first time ever in a major way that a major respected Bible translation had essentially taken out St. Paul's condemnation of homosexual homosexual activity, at least in these two verses. | ||
| Now it does still appear in other parts of the Bible, but it's in the NRSV UE, the NRS V Updated Edition. | ||
| But it's important to back up and explain why that's still a problem going forward. | ||
| Let's just let's just re recapitulate that point, okay? | ||
| This is the first time, or certainly with within the author, the authoritative translations. | ||
| This is the first time this this word has been translated out of its traditional context, right? | ||
| To To have a translation rendered into English that is explicitly nothing to do with homosexual practice. | ||
| Yes, the NRSV UE, I'm quoting someone else here, is the first major English Bible to suddenly find arsenalchoite impossible to translate. | ||
| And this person argued as other people did, that that's not an accident. | ||
| And we need to back up and talk about that. | ||
| How did we arrive at this place? | ||
| Why was this word, which has always been understood? | ||
| You know, it was never the Greek was never that uncertain. | ||
| I mean, if you want to, you can say almost every word when you're translating the Bible is uncertain. | ||
| But for most of the history of the English translation of the Bible, people understood what that word meant until historically speaking, the day before yesterday, or about three years ago, when the NRSV updated edition came out. | ||
| And I don't think it's an accident that it was the mainline Protestant churches that uh this is their flagship Bible, the NRSV now updated edition, um, that ended up doing this. | ||
| And the reason you and I are having this discussion right now is because three years later, in 2025, just this week, the Catholic bishops have given their impramater to it. | ||
| And I think we need to back up and discuss that. | ||
| Uh, if I can, I want to start with something that you started with, actually. | ||
| The Ignatius Study Bible. | ||
| I cannot recommend it highly enough. | ||
| That translation is the revised standard version second Catholic edition. | ||
| It's it's a great translation. | ||
| It's something that we owe uh largely to Ignatius Press in the year 2006. | ||
| It was Ignatius Press that uh worked with the Vatican at that time to get approval of that translation for those Catholics, those tiny number of Catholics who belong to the Anglican ordinariate, which is something that Pope Benedict founded for Anglicans who convert to Catholicism. | ||
| If you the mass that you go to, the liturgy you go to, that's the translation that you hear. | ||
| And it's very beautiful. | ||
| Um, and it's something that goes all the way back to the King James Version of the Bible. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| The point about the beauty behind the new revised standard version, um, second Catholic edition, um, is that the underlying NRSV text was done really in collaboration between the between Protestants and Catholics with the idea that both Protestants and Catholics can use it and can have faith in it. | ||
| Now, there is, of course, the Catholic version, which where there are some contentious um renderings, historical traditional renderings uh in both ways that that it's being based mainly on the the King James version, of course, but so so there is that Catholic version that irons out some of the things to make it to make some of these nuances more acceptable in light of Catholic tradition. | ||
| But the underlying text here, this is the important thing, is that it was designed, I think I think what 20 or 30 years ago when they first um produced the core text for as an ecumenical project without selling out either side. | ||
| And that's an important, and it is an absolutely excellent uh rendering. | ||
| Yeah, so there's there's uh three different Bibles that we're talking about here. | ||
| There's the RSV from the mid-20th century, the revised standard version, then there's the new revised standard version, the NRSV, and then there's the Bible that brings us to our conversation today, which is the NRSV updated edition. | ||
| So the the RSV, what happened was the King James Version is a beautiful Bible, sunk deep roots into English language and culture, goes back to the early 17th century. | ||
| It was a Protestant Bible. | ||
| The Catholics had the due reams, the Protestants had the King James Bible, a landmark event in religious history in the 20th century in the English speaking world was the creation of the revised standard version, RSV, which is an ecumenical Bible, there's a Protestant version and there's a Catholic version. | ||
| And for the first time, you had a Catholic, you had a Bible in common for both Catholics and Protestants. | ||
| The Catholic Bible was slightly different, but for the first time, you had a Catholic Bible that was in the lineage of the beautiful King James Version Bible. | ||
| Then what happened was in 1989, uh the RSV was updated by the National Council of Churches, mainline Protestants, and you got the NRSV. | ||
| Now that was controversial. | ||
| The um the Bible that Ignatius Press has now is not an NRSV. | ||
| It specifically calls itself the RSV Catholic edition or second Catholic edition for a reason. | ||
| In the late 1980s, early 1990s, there was a lot of fight over so-called inclusive language. | ||
| Historically, words like man or mankind in the English language meant both men and women. | ||
| But in the late 1980s, feminism was all the rage. | ||
| So they had so-called inclusive language, where they they actually took out male pronouns from the NRSV. | ||
| And it was very controversial at the time. | ||
| It spilled over into the Catholic Church's fight over the English edition of the Catechism of the Catholic Church in the early 90s. | ||
| And as a result, in the English speaking world, we did not get an English catechism until 94, two years after everyone else got theirs, because Father Joseph Fesio, the founder of Ignatius Press, who was a student of Cardinal Ratzinger's, who was still a cardinal at the time, | ||
| worked with him to make sure that the catechism uh did not follow the NRSV, followed the RSV Catholic edition, and that that uh that more standard English language, man and mankind, uh, rather than being watered down, was kept in that Bible. | ||
| Now, what does that have to do with what's happening right now? | ||
| Now, it's interesting that the mainline Bible uh translation, the NRSV, it seems to go, Ben, with whatever happens to be the fad at the time. | ||
| So in the late 1980s, feminism was all the rage. | ||
| Taking out the male pronouns to refer to mankind was all the rage. | ||
| A lot of times it kind of messed up the translation of the NRSV, which is why Ignatius Press brought back the RSV, and then we got a second RSV, which is what you see in the study Bible, because Ignatius was working with the Vatican to get a liturgical edition. | ||
| That's how we got the RSV second Catholic edition. | ||
| But what happens is the mainline Protestants they update their flagship Bible about every 30 years or so. | ||
| So then we get the R NRS V updated edition with homosexuality taken out in those two verses, now that that's all the rage. | ||
| So let me ask you is it is it is this version that's just been authorized by the US Catholic bishops. | ||
| Will that eventually have um approval to be used in a liturgical context? | ||
| Not in the United States. | ||
| Uh, we've got a different story going on in the USA, but it's one that overlaps with this story. | ||
| So here in the United States for the last 55 years, we have used for the Mass, for the for the mainstream Novus Ordo Mass, we have used something called the New American Bible, and it's gone through several of uh revisions. | ||
| It goes back about 55 years to 1970, it's been revised several times, and the bishops require that that translation and only that translation be used for the mass in the United States. | ||
| And there are reasons for that. | ||
| Um they get copyright revenue out of it and so forth, and they and they also um understandably want everyone to be on the same page reading the same translation at mass. | ||
| That is now going through a revision uh that will be that that will be there will be yet another revision of the NAB, the New American Bible, that we'll be reading at Mass. | ||
| And it does raise a question. | ||
| Like the same people that gave the imprimatur for this NRSV updated edition where they gay washed those two verses in the New Testament, presumably are the same people that are going to be signing off on the New American Bible. | ||
| We know the names of some of those scholars, and they're very solid people. | ||
| Um, but it does raise a question like what can we expect from that edition of the New American Bible that we will be um hearing at Mass. | ||
| If they signed off on the NRSV updated edition, and I was hoping they'd require the translators to fix that one word. | ||
| If they did not require that, what are we going to be getting in the translation at mass in a couple years? | ||
| Um look, that's a point here that you've been you've been on this really since 2022, right? | ||
| This this but you've been writing about this um for the last three years, following every single development. | ||
| This is nothing that's just come out of um of of the blue. | ||
| Um the director of the N R S V UE is Catholic. | ||
| Um, And yet it was the Protestants, Robert Gagnon, as you were saying, who was who did most of the work on social media trying to get the um to get the the authentic the traditional at least something pertaining to the traditional sense of the word continued. | ||
| How um how will this does this have ecumenical implications? | ||
| The pushing through of this between Catholics and Protestants with regards to scriptural analysis going forwards. | ||
| So I'm I'm concerned that it does. | ||
| And it's hard to qualify to quantify it this early on, but the RSV in the mid-20th century, the NRSV in the late 20th century, and now the NRSV updated edition at the end of the first quarter of the 21st century is the flagship Bible of the Academy and of scholarship. | ||
| It's the Bible that everybody uh in that world sort of looks to. | ||
| And actually, I must say, I'd love to see the Catholics in in our world that are famous for um enlightening all of us as to the Bible. | ||
| I'm talking about faithful good uh Catholic groups like Ascension Press and you know the famous Father Mike Schmidt with his uh Bible in a year and Jeff Cavins and Scott Hahn and St. Paul's Center for Biblical Theology and Augustine Institute. | ||
| We could go on forever. | ||
| These are the guys that should really be addressing this. | ||
| I'm I'm just an amateur um following up on this, but I I think they need to push the bishops on this. | ||
| Hold on to this point. | ||
| I'm gonna come back to you now about the actual practical implications in daily life arising out of this translation just in two minutes. | ||
| Thanks, Peters. | ||
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| Okay, so Peter, my question to you here, listening to this debate, is there are is not just dry theoretical stuff, right? | ||
| Um the question to ask here is does the Bible make moral distinctions, therefore, between different types of homosexual relationships? | ||
| That's really, I think you might you'll agree with me here. | ||
| That's the subtext of how um of the importance of of changing this arsenal coite um correctly. | ||
| Um does the Bible make moral distinctions between different types of homosexual relations? | ||
| Because taking that word in the wrong way would suggest that it does, right? | ||
| This has like massive implications. | ||
| Oh, it it has tremendous implications, particularly those two verses in 1 Timothy and 1 Corinthians where it has been changed. | ||
| And the way you described it, by the way, that is that comes straight from a Washington Times article in 2022 that covered the whole gay washing controversy, and both they and the the translators Of the NRSV updated edition, they frame the issue that way. | ||
| Does that word, that Greek world, does it, does it condemn all uh homosexual relationships or just illicit ones? | ||
| Which is to suggest that the Bible makes a moral distinction between different kinds of uh same sex uh sexual activity, and it does not. | ||
| That's an ideological novelty. | ||
| That's the way they're sneaking this sort of stuff in. | ||
| And I know the translators have defended themselves and said they're just doing objective scholarship, but I think it's reasonable to wonder if that if that's really the case. | ||
| Uh, especially when you consider, and it has huge, it has eternal um implications because what those two verses are saying, St. Paul is listing um a bunch of different categories of of uh people, activities that they're engaged in, that if unrepentant, they will not inherit the kingdom of God. | ||
| That is what he is saying. | ||
| So when you change that to suggest that uh, you know, when St. Paul, inspired by the Holy Spirit, says, Look, unrepentant uh homo people engaged in male homosexuality will not inherit the kingdom of God. | ||
| Um, when the NRSV updated edition says something different than St. Paul under the Holy Spirit says that in that two verses, that is not an act of love to our neighbors who may be engaged in that sort of activity. | ||
| We want them to inherit the kingdom of God too, and we're not doing them any uh favors, we're doing them in eternal disfavor, a disservice, uh uh with horrifying consequences to fudge up those two verses to fuzz them up and make them unclear. | ||
| They've been clear throughout centuries until this this edition of the Bible. | ||
| It's a very serious matter. | ||
| This is uh the importance that you just touched on here of preaching the truth in charity, both of those two things go together. | ||
| In fact, preaching the truth, of course. | ||
| I mean, there are different ways that you can go about it, but preaching the truth is actually a charitable act in and of itself. | ||
| Um tell me something here, because this is on on this show, on the evening show, often um on the war room, we touch on issues that are importance. | ||
| This is uh our audience is our audience is largely evangelical, but we do touch on issues pertaining to traditional Catholicism. | ||
| And in addition to the debate over how we should live, there's the question here of episcopal authority, right? | ||
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| I've always my understanding is that the um the bishops of the Catholic Church, when they authorize translations, they're doing that in some way under the Holy Spirit. | ||
| I think the church has said that explicitly with regards to the Vulgate translation into Latin. | ||
| But this here, seeing this the the United States Catholic bishops have just authorized this. | ||
| Is it legitimate to ask what is the bishop's authority here on authorizing translations? | ||
| Um does it throw questions about about the authority of bishops in general when it comes to teaching faith and morals? | ||
| Well, I I think it would be good, and this probably won't happen, but I think we ought to ask anyway. | ||
| I think it would be good if the bishops themselves uh here in the United States clarified uh this question as it relates to their approval of the NRSV updated edition. | ||
| The way that the public found out about this was Friendship Press, which is the publishing arm of the National Council of Churches, the Protestant mainline body, they're the ones who put out this information that the USCCB, the US um Catholic Bishops Conference, had approved of this translation of the Bible, | ||
| and that approval now does appear on the US C C B's website, but you know, the USCCB is a bureaucracy, and you know, it would be worth asking, like, who did who gave that imprimatur? | ||
| Was it was it some staff person? | ||
| Was it some subcommittee? | ||
| Was it the bishops themselves? | ||
| The bishops are the successors to the apostles, and they do have legitimate authority. | ||
| And I I mean it's worth asking how how was it exercised uh in this instance? | ||
| Was it their authority? | ||
| Was it some subcommittee? | ||
| And why? | ||
| And they ought to justify and explain this is why we didn't want that word changed. | ||
| This is a tapestry, but when you start pulling on the threads, it can un unravel far more than what you what what you expected when you set out. | ||
| I think the Catholic Church here, not for the first time, really since the second Vatican Council onwards, is in very dangerous territory here when it comes to its own authority. | ||
| Okay, so that's that's pretty um that's pretty damning, I think. | ||
| Just tell me one thing, because you've got it like about a minute and a half left. | ||
| Tell me one thing here. | ||
| When we say that the word of God is divinely inspired and inerrant, we're talking about the original version in Greek, right? | ||
| Well, the original version is to what extent to what to what extent can we make that assumption when it comes to translations in general? | ||
| Yeah, so the the original version of the Bible, the the old testament was in Hebrew and the New Testament um was in Greek. | ||
| And my understanding is that the church considers both the the original versions uh inspired as well as the Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Hebrew. | ||
| And your question is to what extent can we accept um English translations as inspired? | ||
| They're not inspired, uh certainly in the the translators are not inspired in the way that St. Paul and Moses and all the original authors of the Bible were inspired. | ||
| You need to read it through the through the church's tradition, the interpretation. | ||
| The again, you've we've referenced the Ignatius study Bible, it doesn't get any better than that. | ||
| Um, but it's not inspired in the same way that the the original is. | ||
| Um it really is a work of scholarship where the church's authority comes in, is when the church gives imprimaturs to these translations. | ||
| It's not the same thing as saying it's inspired the way the original is, but that the church has looked at this and they don't see anything here that contradicts Catholic teaching on faith and morals, and I think the translation of that one word does. | ||
| Okay, you're gonna give me a have to give me a yes or no on this one. | ||
| Can we as faithful believers have confidence that the translations that we're reading, if they have the imprimators, are accurate and faithful and will not lead us astray. | ||
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Yes, ultimately, but we gotta but we're part of the process too. | |
| We are part of the process too. | ||
| The lady have a voice too, and uh, when we see something weird, we have to push back. | ||
| Peter Wolfgang, this has been a really fascinating. | ||
| We're gonna have to get you back on to explore these themes in more detail. | ||
| In the meantime, where do people go to keep up with your analysis on social media? | ||
| So, Family Institute of Connecticut's website is CTFamily.org. | ||
| You can also find me personally on Facebook at Facebook.com slash Peter Wolfgang. | ||
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| Peter, that's very kind of you. | ||
| Thanks for coming on the show. | ||
| Look forward to catching up with you again soon. | ||
| God bless for now. | ||
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| Well, one of the news stories that's been dominating German conversation over recent weeks is to do with the murder of a young girl, a young 16-year-old Ukrainian refugee in Germany called Liana. | ||
| Um, and she was pushed on the the train tracks by an Iraqi uh immigrant. | ||
| This is similar to the situation that that that's occupied American um attention over recent months as well. | ||
| So my next guest, Vadim Dirksen, a senior editor at Younger Freiheit news portal that's been right at the center of drawing attention to this. | ||
| Vadim, welcome onto Steve Bannon's war room. | ||
| What can you tell us about this case first of all? | ||
| What are the the facts before we go into how this is uh captivated German attention? | ||
| Hi Ben, uh nice to have me on your show. | ||
| Um yeah. | ||
| The thing is uh Liana was murdered brutally on a daylight uh standing uh at the train station, and she was pushed on the rails on the rails when the train uh a freight train rushed in. | ||
| Uh I was there at the site. | ||
| Um the the train came in very fast with uh 100 kilometers per hour. | ||
| Uh it's about approximately like 60, 70 miles per hour. | ||
| So they they passed quite fast, and she was pushed on the on the in front of this train by an uh Iraqi asylum seeker who was illegal in this country, who uh needed to be deported. | ||
| He uh but he stayed in the country. | ||
| Um, and uh this young little girl, she never met this guy before. | ||
| She didn't know him as a um she was not related, she was not close to him, she was just a suspect. | ||
| She she she was I'm sorry, she was just uh a victim in this situation because she was there at the time when this guy was there, and this is uh especially very horrific to see. | ||
| Uh I met the mother, she was uh completely uh crushed. | ||
| Uh she was done. | ||
| Uh you you can see how big this impact was and or still is on the family that was the only girl they had. | ||
| Um she um Liana has also two brothers yet, younger brothers. | ||
| Um the only the mother handled to talk to us because she sought for justice, and um because in the beginning the police didn't even know that there was a murder, they thought it was maybe a suicide, maybe there was uh uh just an accident, but she was caught by wind, they told uh the mother. | ||
| Um, and there were no cameras, so there was nothing what could tell okay, this girl was pushed there. | ||
| There was only one thing, one little hint what brought um this all to light. | ||
| This girl was was on the phone with her grandfather, and he just heard her scream in the last second. | ||
| And he was in a uh in Ukraine, by the way, he's in Ukraine. | ||
| Um, yeah, they were WhatsApping, and then uh he heard that incident happening. | ||
| So if it hadn't been for that fact that she'd been on the phone at the time, this would have just been uh entered sort of consumed into the into suicide statistics. | ||
| Vadim, I'd I'd like to um to point this out to our largely American audience here. | ||
| These kind of stories are happening every day. | ||
| I know this is the one that's really captured German attention right now, but these kinds of stories are happening a violent crime, especially against young girls, uh, but but not exclusively girls, um, also against young boys. | ||
| But these kind of things are happening every day, not only in Germany, but right across the European continent right now because of the the third world illegal invasion. | ||
| How has the response to this? | ||
| Obviously, because it is a lot in the news. | ||
| What what has been the response of the various political parties to this brutal murder? | ||
| So there was a different response from different parties. | ||
| The first thing what the mother did, she she wanted to have justice, and she wanted to know what happened to her uh girl. | ||
| So she went to the politicians there. | ||
| She went to the local uh chapter of the CDU, the leading party uh of Chan Chancellor Mertz. | ||
| Um, and she she asked them to help them, and then they said, Well, why are you asking? | ||
| Let the police do their work. | ||
| Um, by the way, we we we are raising money for you and for the funeral. | ||
| What else do you need? | ||
| And She was just devastated. | ||
| She was she was uh she was in shock hearing that so she went just to the next party to the opposition party, which was the the office was right next to it, and they helped them. | ||
| They just posted something online, they asked for help for uh people who might have seen something, and this all of the sudden brought some uh started to to change um and and bring some public publicity to this uh case. | ||
| But till now uh we have uh in the local parliament, uh the the leftists are ruling there. | ||
| They don't want to have a uh even the the the let's say the the the centrist uh right wing uh not centrist right like the CDU uh they they wanted to have like kind of uh what's called the um um I'm sorry the the the kind of uh commission there to to find out what happened there and they had to vote uh if they want to start this commission and they uh they voted all against it except for the AFD. | ||
| And the AFD, um, before you tell before you tell me about how the AFD are doing right now, because I think they're sort of number one in the polls. | ||
| What was the tell me more about the AFD response? | ||
| The alternative for Deutschland. | ||
| Yes, but the thing is uh she went not only to the AFD, but she went to the the nightmare of the leftist. | ||
| Uh it's his name is uh Bjorn Hoecke, and he is painted as uh really the the darkest, the the the evil, the the most evil politicians of the um AFD, and his office was right there. | ||
| And um the mother went there and she she doesn't know any of the politics, she doesn't know what what's the system in here is she she just saw a sign of a political party and she asked for help, and the party helped, | ||
| and um what they they they brought it to light, and only the publicity and the pressure from the media from the alternative media helped to um to to discover what actually happened in this case there. | ||
| So the AFD was wheel pushing it in and transporting it over social media and thanks to Elon Musk, also to the platforms like X, uh, to the publicity of the German uh people. | ||
| So um we're actually trying to get Bjorn Hocker on on the show. | ||
| Um where we're liaison with his office. | ||
| Um I like the fact that you say that this isn't just any old AF uh D guy. | ||
| This is the this is this is the nightmare for as far as the the left is concerned for his positions, and he is absolutely excellent. | ||
| Um, what is the tell me about how the populate sentiment in Germany is growing against the third world illegal invasion right now? | ||
| So we actually we're seeing pictures from the UK. | ||
| There were Tommy Robinson had three million people out in London a couple of weeks ago, and the position is arguably even worse in Germany. | ||
| Actually, we have uh an anniversary just a few weeks ago, the 10 years open border uh politics of Angela Merkel, and we just made uh brought all the numbers together. | ||
| And I want to just show you some charts of it. | ||
| I think this is very interesting for also for the Americans to see what actually happened in this 10 years. | ||
| Um after we see here, for example, uh you can see this uh peak here. | ||
| This is the asylum seekers, and this is um 2015 was the highest peak when the asylum seekers came into Germany, but um the number uh it came down a little bit after that, but it stayed higher than previously ever. | ||
| So they're still coming in, and there's another peak. | ||
| That's when the leftists took over. | ||
| Then um it's still so they they're coming into the country without any um control, and you mean this is just the crossing borders, so that means all this peak there, they're not going back, they're all staying in Germany. | ||
| What made that to the crime scene? | ||
| We have this number here. | ||
| These numbers are very interesting. | ||
| This is the sexual assault. | ||
| I mean, um you see the dark blue, that's the German citizen uh committing crime, sexual crime. | ||
| The red ones are the uh immigrants living here, and the yellow ones on top, these are only asylum seekers. | ||
| And here you see on 2024, they add up like they commit the same amount of crime, sexual crime, as the German citizens, although they make only uh they they they make from the German society they they probably make 10% or so. | ||
| So um, and in this dark blue um German um column, you they are also immigrants which became Germans over time, and this is also an interesting chart to see. | ||
| This is the um chart showing all the numbers of uh asylum seekers becoming German, and this is one here the blue uh rise here. | ||
| This is the um migration of or becoming Germans of uh Syrian refugees. | ||
| So in the next years, when there's more crime coming in, um, in the German statistics, you won't see the Syrian uh asylum seekers anymore because they have the German passport. | ||
| Um this takes and that could this have an influence on different aspects in all of our society, yeah. | ||
| That could already be to some extent a phenomenon right now. | ||
| Some by Vadim, I'm gonna ask you something about I've seen something interesting uh on the left of the German political spectrum, which is responding to some extent to the um small extent to the uh to the invasion. | ||
| I I'll ask you about that in just two minutes, but stand by. | ||
| I I gave the number out earlier on um in the first half of the show for Birch Gold. | ||
| I'm gonna give it again. | ||
| Um you need to text the word Bannon to nine eight nine eight nine eight. | ||
| That's uh banner B A N O N to nine eight nine eight nine eight. | ||
| Um and there is something else I want to quickly mention to do with um home title lock. | ||
| I don't know if you guys saw this story that was in the the press a couple of days ago to do with Graceland, um the historic home of Elvis Presley that a Missouri woman was sentenced this week to four years in federal prison for scheming to defraud Elvis Presley's family by trying to auction off his Graceland home and uh property before a judge halted it. | ||
| Uh so look, that went quite far, uh, and this is obviously to do with exactly what we're talking about all the time uh on home title lock. | ||
| Um and if someone can get so far advanced in flogging off Graceland, um then of course the point is they can do this to uh to you or to me. | ||
| So that's the important thing. | ||
| That's how key this is. | ||
| Um what you need to do if you want uh a free title history report on your property, or even a the free 14-day trial of home title lock. | ||
| So go to home title lock.com and use promo code Steve for your 14-day free trial and do ask them about that triple lock protection. | ||
| So let's carry on now with the show. | ||
| Um Vadim, what I wanted to ask you was about this social democrat politician called the Trump of Duisburg, uh sorrow Soran Link. | ||
| Um who defeated the AFD. | ||
| Now, obviously, on the war room we're we're cheerleading for the AFD because we see the alternative for Germany is being the principal party that's going to shake the political class in Germany out of its quagmire. | ||
| But this is interesting because this guy did beat the AFD, and he does appear to have a more hard line position on immigration than the AFD. | ||
| Tell me about that. | ||
| Um, are I right in that? | ||
| And how unusual is it to have someone in the socialist party in Germany pushing an anti immigration position. | ||
| Um the parties, they have it actually very uh there's a tough moment for them uh for the old parties uh even pushing uh now against uh illegal immigration. | ||
| We see uh, for example, uh, also with the new chancellor Merz who said there's gonna be a massive change, there is gonna be a 100-degree change of uh migration policy. | ||
| Um he distanced himself from um Angela Merkel. | ||
| This all didn't help. | ||
| The AFD is still on the rise. | ||
| She uh the the AFD, the party um grew fifth five percent more uh in comparison to the beginning of this year after the elections. | ||
| Now they are number one. | ||
| Um on the ground basis, let's say, and the in the in the cities where the mayors uh to be elected and so on, in these kind of elections, it's harder for the AFD because they it need more than 50 percent, and it's easier for the older parties to gather all the candidates uh or the the votes of the uh oppositions against the FD uh against the AFD, and this helps them then uh to get their own mayors and so on. | ||
| So this is the hardest, the toughest ground for the AFD still on the local uh elections, but uh let's say on the federal um federal um elections, which uh and some of the we have like states, 16 states. | ||
| Um we're gonna have five elections next year. | ||
| Uh two most three elections of them are gonna be in the eastern part of Germany, and the the AFD is on top there. | ||
| Uh, they they have now in the polls like 39%, 38%. | ||
| They're leading like with a big gap to the second party, and this is a major problem for the CDU for the SPD because they need only like we have a five percent uh uh threshold when you come into the parliament. | ||
| That means you need only 40, 45 percent to have 50 percent of the parliament. | ||
| So the AFD could actually rule completely alone on its own without any coalition, maybe next year in some of the states. | ||
| Look, in in the in the final couple of minutes of the show, just tell me how Chancellor Merz has collapsed so spectacularly quickly, having been in office just for a few months now. | ||
| Uh how how is that been perceived in Germany? | ||
| The biggest value of a politician in politics is trust. | ||
| And he said there's gonna be a massive change, and this change he didn't provide it. | ||
| Actually, he even switched his complete position, which he had before before the elections. | ||
| He switched it over, and now, like, say with the debts, the the the government get debts. | ||
| He said we're not gonna not we're not gonna raise more debts, but he did he took the biggest debt in history uh of a chancellor. | ||
| So uh this raised also big critiques inside of the CDU. | ||
| The the conservative parts of the CDU are now upset with him. | ||
| They're they they um and so the trust is gone. | ||
| Nobody really believes that he can actually bring the change he promised. | ||
| So, and this is the major problem. | ||
| Um, the the old parties are on the fall, they they go down, the AFD is on the rise, and it's a new hope. | ||
| And we see it here also. | ||
| We have a chart by by the way, also for this one. | ||
| Um, you see how the the mood uh against migration changed over the last 10 years. | ||
| So here the green one, you see, they agreed like 40 per five 45 percent said it is good to have migration in Germany. | ||
| That was 2015. | ||
| It was still a minority. | ||
| The majority said it's wrong, but Angela Merkel and so on, they did it what they did. | ||
| Now, 10 years later, we have it in the polls, only 27-28% say migration is okay. |
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