Oct. 4, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| MAGA media. | ||
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| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
| War room. | ||
| Stephen K. It's a Saturday for October Year of Lord 2025. | ||
| I've asked Kurt Mills, and Kurt, I'm going to intrude upon you to stick, and we're going to talk about Ukraine. | ||
| Then we'll bring Mark Kerkorian in. | ||
| Mark's going to give us an update on a really stunning uh decision yesterday of the Supreme Court about Venezuela. | ||
| And then when we go through that, I want you to stick around because I do want to talk about Venezuela. | ||
| And uh it looks like approaching uh American um kinetic activity there, including seizing seaports and transportation nodes by the United States military. | ||
| We'll get into that in a second. | ||
| Um I think it's very important. | ||
| Fred Flights is looked at as kind of the he was chief of staff under President Trump's first term for the National Security Council. | ||
| He's looking at that uh traditional bedrock of Republican thinking about national security. | ||
| And I think it shows you that we're having a shift, a fundamental serious shift in the way we think about geopolitics. | ||
| Now, I am much more aggressive and I would almost say interventionist when it comes against the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| I've been accused of by the great Darren Beattie, my close friend and colleague at Kurt Mills and other people I'm very close to are finding a CCP member under every every bed. | ||
| But um there's a shift in the shift is a geopolitical and national security uh thought process that's shifting radically. | ||
| And you can see it in Fred in the situation in the Ukraine. | ||
| So I want to get you in here, Kurt. | ||
| Um, and to see that quite frankly, you two guys are not that far apart really on the uh on the Middle East, although I think a lot of the old hands are like Fred, having got a lot of scars from the Middle East over the last 20 or 30 years and don't like Hamas. | ||
| And I keep saying Hamas has a history, as these terrorist organizations do, of being able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. | ||
| And Fred puts it at 10%, you put it at 50%. | ||
| I think the president will put it higher, right? | ||
| I think he feels Whitkoff going there, they'll hammer out some deal and he'll just he'll do his force of will. | ||
| It's one of the reasons I think more than any person in living memory, he deserves uh, you know, the be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize because he is a man of peace. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| This will make it seven or eight wars, something extraordinary. | ||
| But at the same time, and I think President Trump, he says it publicly. | ||
| He says, look, I'm very frustrated about Ukraine. | ||
| I thought I could do it easier. | ||
| I thought I could do it quicker. | ||
| I thought I had a better relationship with Putin. | ||
| He's he's uh he talks about this all the time. | ||
| And so Fred's nailed something you and I have talked about for a couple of years here in this Ukraine situation. | ||
| America, like we were in Israel in the in the 12-day war. | ||
| We were a combatant in that war. | ||
| I kept telling people when you send Aegis cruisers there and you start doing uh defense target acquisition, and when you've got uh you're sending Thaad missiles over on the defensive side, you're a combatant. | ||
| When you go do the expeditionary force hit uh by our bombers on the total obliteration, but at the same time, folks, you got 1970s technology and tomahawk missiles coming out of fast attack submarines in the North Arabian Sea, a place as a young naval officer, I was in like late 1979, early 1980. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Uh you're back to being a combatant in the war. | ||
| And right now, Kurt, what happened in the Viesbaden, and people understand the CIA and military intelligence, DIB be running a big deal out of Germany with the Brits and with others. | ||
| Fred's right, when you start having loose talk and and and Zelensky's making comments about I need tomahawks, I need patriots, and oh, by the way, President Trump, I think he said not approved, But basically signed off on or was acknowledged, knew in advance of the deep strike into Russia, what, three or four months ago with the drones, something that Curtis LeMay couldn't even fantasize about. | ||
| We are getting inexorably sucked into the kinetic part of the third world war. | ||
| And let me just remind everybody, because nobody talks about this enough. | ||
| If you go from September 1st of 1939, the invasion of Poland, to January, June 21st of 1941, the Wehrmacht's invasion of Russia with Operation Barbarossa. | ||
| If you take that time frame and you look at the killing that really initiated the European war part of the second world war, um, it pales in comparison to the casualties. | ||
| President Trump said that they finally gave you the number, I think it's 1.8 million from intelligence sources. | ||
| And the president said, hey, I'm giving you inside baseball. | ||
| 1.8 million Ukrainians dead or wounded, and over a million Russians, I think, dead. | ||
| So you're talking a scale of two and a half, three over million casualties just in Ukraine right now. | ||
| And one of the reasons you don't see like MSMBC putting up footage every night like they did in the first days of the war, this is like World War I's Western Front. | ||
| There's been 650,000 Ukrainian casualties this year. | ||
| And tell me how much MSNBC or CNN has shown you, uh, like nothing, because it's too brutal. | ||
| So, Kurt, I'm very concerned that with President Trump focused on all this other stuff, we are getting sucked into, and by the way, the Hawks in the arms industry and in the Pentagon, and of course the um the insane Lindsey Graham's and these people want us, they want us, they want us in a basic kinetic war with Russia right now. | ||
| So, what's your what's your concern or observations about this Ukraine situation, sir? | ||
| Yeah, still reeling from agreeing uh so much with Fred Fleights on Ukraine. | ||
| Uh, that's not just anybody you had just there. | ||
| He was, of course, John Bolton's former chief of staff and this sort of uh wartime consigliere to General Keith Kellogg, who of course remains a special envoy on this whole theater. | ||
| So if that kind of thinking is ascended among the Hawk camp, uh that's pretty encouraging. | ||
| Um I think that the Tomahawk idea uh needs to be you know totally ruled out. | ||
| Um, something that you haven't missed on this show is that uh President Putin, the Tsar had his big party this week, which is the Valdai Club uh meeting uh in Russia. | ||
| And uh he made it pretty clear, and this is this sort of language that I think people from Russia have been saying both overtly and behind the scenes, that they're done with the Europeans. | ||
| Uh they had seen they see themselves as a civilization apart. | ||
| Um, they see themselves as doing something different from the quote West, and that they are not going to work with the Europeans who they think are basically histrionic and outdated in their thinking, they will work with the Americans. | ||
| Uh the Americans, uh, I think uh, and this is also something we've also discussed, is because there's no real love loss between them and the Chinese. | ||
| Uh they will work with the Chinese. | ||
| They are more in line with the Chinese now, uh, but they don't trust them. | ||
| Russia has a border with a massive border with China, not with the U.S. And so there's an opportunity, and people can say it's uh uh sort of uh pie in the sky. | ||
| But hang on, but hang on. | ||
| Hang on, but hang on, hang on one second. | ||
| But but but hang on one second, because you're hitting a absolute critical point. | ||
| Since the time of what Catherine the Great or Peter the Great, uh the Russian czars have tried to, and this is why the Capitol was moved to St. Petersburg, have tried to make and make the case that they're actually a European nation and try to integrate into Europe. | ||
| And this is one of the reasons for the first and second world war. | ||
| Um, who's kind of the overall geopolitical philosopher and uh uh theoretician has made this case for years that this uh this uh Eurasian, that they're actually a Eurasian power, and the more that and that uh uh Europe is walking away from Christianity, | ||
| it's a failed society, it's had uh it's it's gonna be the Islamization is only going to take over and kind of the camp of the saints, the the elites are too feckless to actually save their own countries, and so why would we want it's a civilization that's dying? | ||
| Why would we want to be a part of it? | ||
| We're actually a Eurasian power, and they make this a very uh elaborate um uh you know pitch about how their Eurasian power, and I agree with you, not with the Chinese Communist Party, but down even through Persia and that part of uh that part of Eurasia all the way to the Arabian Sea. | ||
| Are you saying in this latest meeting that that you think that that because if that's now their new policy, that's a major, that's a major pivot. | ||
| And I think that would raise the possibility of Russia potentially having an armed conflict with Europe. | ||
| I think I think their belief is that when all the European clowns came to President Trump's Oval Office and came out, and they really had no commitments on security, they had no money to put up, they have no arms, no troops, and their people have no political will to do it. | ||
| They kind of becown themselves. | ||
| Are you saying now, because of the embrace of the Eurasian strategy, it would make Russia more open to actually armed conflict against NATO, or are you saying they're just walking away from the whole thing? | ||
| I think it's unclear. | ||
| Uh the person you cited, Dugan is not just some rando. | ||
| This is uh I don't I think his relationships with Putin are probably slightly overstated, but they know that he has a uh massive profile, and then you know he's he's pumping out all this philosophical uh conjecture all the time, and to an extent, I think he represents the vanguard of the Russian state and the Russian project. | ||
| I think uh that's an interesting comparison you made with World War I. And a lot of ways uh the situation has reversed because you know I was in meetings in Brussels in uh June, and you could hear some of these, you know, these are not low-ranking people that I was talking to. | ||
| Here's some of these Europeans, they were just one more armed shipment away from you know, uh taking out uh Putin in Moscow. | ||
| That's the cast of mind in Europe, and versus the Russians think that this war is going just fine to an extent, parts of Russia, Russian society fears demobilization, fears the end of the war. | ||
| So these sides are very far apart. | ||
| As to Russia's orientation to the rest of the world, I mean, A, they have a lot of uh strong relations within the global south, but in general, I would say, geopolitically, they are a lone wolf. | ||
| Lone wolf can be good or bad. | ||
| Uh, but they have nuclear weapons, they're proud of civilization, uh, 11 time zones, and I think it is incumbent upon the United States to work pragmatically with them. | ||
| They're not going anywhere. | ||
| And I think what was very interesting about Putin, it'd be it's been well observed, his interviews with Carlson, etc., is how um sort of melancholic and preoccupied with history is. | ||
| Uh he talked again uh this week about the collapse after the Cold War, and he he sort of signaled you know all this thinking in the early 90s, none of it uh came to anything. | ||
| This sort of fukiamist fantasy about uh the nation's getting along. | ||
| It didn't happen. | ||
| This is a realist. | ||
| Uh this is a stone cold-hearted man, no doubt. | ||
| Uh, but it's somebody I think fundamentally the United States can do business with if it prioritizes its own national interests as opposed to the endless indulgence of histrionic Europeans. | ||
| Yeah, hang over a second, I want to hold you. | ||
| Uh uh Mark O'Corian joins us. | ||
| Mark, a pretty massive ruling from the Supreme Court yesterday. | ||
| Can you walk the audience through what the ruling was and what this massive impact is going to be, sir? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Um Biden, when he took over, we all know, started just letting pretty much anybody in. | ||
| Venezuelans, especially. | ||
| There had not been many Venezuelans coming across the border before, but he sort of invited them, and so they came in the hundreds of thousands. | ||
| And then he used something called temporary protected status. | ||
| TPS, it's in the law, but as the name suggests, it's supposed to be a temporary thing for when there's an earthquake or a volcano and we can't send people home right away. | ||
| What it does is it gives these illegal immigrants Social Security numbers, work permits, they can't get deported. | ||
| And Biden just kept renewing it. | ||
| And in fact, the most recent renewal was literally a week and a half before the end of the administration. | ||
| They were on the way out. | ||
| They were trying to lock these illegal immigrants into the country. | ||
| And President Trump said, yeah, okay, well, according to the law, the conditions don't warrant this special, essentially temporary amnesty. | ||
| And so we're pulling the plug on it. | ||
| And as you can imagine, you know, the usual suspects went to district court in San Francisco, and the judges there just said, oh, yeah, that's right. | ||
| It's mean to do that, so we're not going to let you do it. | ||
| Supreme Court now, this just recently, this was the second time they slapped down a lower court and have said, look, the law says the president can do this. | ||
| It's called temporary, and he's ending it. | ||
| And so this is a big deal because up to 600,000 or more uh Venezuelan illegal aliens led in by Biden will lose their work permits, lose their ability to stay. | ||
| And the issue is not so much that they're all going to be rounded up and deported, but that they are gonna be they've clearly been told uh you gotta go back. | ||
| And in fact, many, if not most of them never even came from Venezuela. | ||
| They're already living in Colombia and Ecuador and Peru for years. | ||
| And they came because you know, Trump invited, I mean, Biden invited them. | ||
| And so that essentially what the Supreme Court has said, this is the second time they've had to slap down the lower courts. | ||
| They've said Trump gets to tell these illegal immigrants that the party's over and they need to leave. | ||
| Mark, hang on for one second. | ||
| I just want to hold you to the break about the implications and why can't we just round them up and send them back? | ||
| Um Mark Accorium from CIS. | ||
| Todd Benzman, as you know, is not with us anymore, is almost like a co-host here for years because he's actually Tom Holman's right-hand man now in the government working on these problems as uh a great representative of CIS, just an amazing organization. | ||
| Kurt Mills, Mark Krikorian, next in the war room. | ||
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| Mark Accorian, so uh you said they came from other countries. | ||
| Okay, here's I'm gonna have to I've asked Kurt Mills to stay around. | ||
| Taj is gonna join me. | ||
| Um we have an amphibious, and as Captain Fanel correctly uh corrects me, says ban and a sailor, it's amphibious ready group. | ||
| Okay, we have an ARG, an amphibious ready group with 4,000 fleet marines and sailors off the coast of Venezuela. | ||
| And today there's a great analysis, actually kind of where the ships are. | ||
| I mean, this is a big, big, big armada. | ||
| Uh and Marco and Marco's got his war, right? | ||
| So how do we send 600,000 folks back to a war? | ||
| And I'm all for, hey, let's round them up and show them the door uh and get them out of here. | ||
| But how do you do that in the middle of a uh a shooting war, sir? | ||
| Well, it's a couple things. | ||
| Uh first, don't get in the shooting war, but I'll leave that to Kurt to talk about. | ||
| Um, but the other thing is a lot of these people came from, like I said, from Colombia, from Peru and Ecuador. | ||
| Uh, and so they can go there. | ||
| And as far as deporting people, uh, I don't mean self-deporting, because a lot of people could self-deport that way. | ||
| I mean people we take into custody and throw out. | ||
| The administration now has agreements with a variety of other countries To deport third country nationals there to uh I'm pretty sure they have one, they've already finished it with Honduras and they have it with other countries. | ||
| So some of these people, especially if they're not criminals, the local government will say, well, if they're criminals, maybe we don't want them, or you're gonna have to pay us more. | ||
| But if they're just regular working stiffs, sure. | ||
| Uh we'll take them. | ||
| So we can deport them, or they can deport themselves to a variety of places, including Venezuela. | ||
| But if not, there's a lot of other places in Latin America that we they we can send people, or that they can go on their own. | ||
| Overall, because we haven't had you on in a while, given everything else President Trump's got going, how do you feel right now? | ||
| And by the way, the whole thing about Antifa and what's happening in Portland, a lot of in Chicago in Los Angeles, is all about the beginning of the process of mass deportations, right? | ||
| Now, I understand we've had two million, according to Rosemary Jenks, two million uh we have two million illegal aliens or foreign nationals have left the country in the first 250 days of President Trump's second term. | ||
| Where but where does CIS, where do you guys think we stand given the severity of this, given the reason that I think most people would say this is why President Trump won the 2024 election, where do you think we stand nine months into this? | ||
| I think we're doing pretty well. | ||
| Um look, uh there's stuff that I wish extra things that I would wish the administration would do. | ||
| But we are doing pretty well. | ||
| I mean, that was our research that showed that the total immigrant population has dropped by 2.2 million from January through July. | ||
| We estimate 1.6 million of them were illegals. | ||
| And of course it's October now, so the number's even larger. | ||
| And we actually have a report coming out next week looking at that number from other angles, and it looks like it's real. | ||
| A lot of people poo-pooed it and said, no, no, this is just surveys. | ||
| What do they know? | ||
| But it's a real number. | ||
| The number of immigrants in general and illegals in particular is going down. | ||
| And that's not hard to believe because there's always churn. | ||
| Even under Biden, some illegals left. | ||
| The point is fewer are coming in because the borders shut down. | ||
| There's still people coming in on visas and not leaving, but the number of new illegals is lower, and more people are leaving, obviously. | ||
| And so this is a real thing. | ||
| The administration's got to keep it up because it can't just be talk and rhetoric and scare people and then not back it up. | ||
| But they are backing it up. | ||
| I would like to see more work site enforcement and less talk of just criminals, because yes, obviously we want criminals out. | ||
| That's uh, you know, you don't get a award for that. | ||
| But regular illegal immigrants who aren't criminal, I mean, aren't you know, non-immigration criminals, just ordinary working people, they need to go too. | ||
| And I'd like the president to talk a little bit more about that. | ||
| So I'll give them an A-but it's definitely an A-. | ||
| I mean, we are moving clearly in the right direction, and now the administration is taking steps to rein in this H1B issue, which I'm sure you've talked about before. | ||
| This is the uh supposedly legal immigration of tech workers, which is a total scam. | ||
| So scam. | ||
| Um, I'm feeling pretty good about it, uh, eight months in. | ||
| Kakorian, if you're feeling pretty good directionally, we're getting there. | ||
| Uh, where do you go? | ||
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| Where do you go? | ||
| Um, for the non-hot, go to our website, CIS.org. | ||
| If you like the snark and sarcasm, I'm on Twitter at Mark S as in Stephen, Mark S. Crikorion. | ||
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| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Thanks for taking Saturday to join us. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Kurt Mills. | ||
| So, Kurt, we're talking about hemispheric defense. | ||
| We're gonna talk a lot tomorrow on our on our show about the 250, about a pivot back here to more of the Monroe Doctrine from the Arctic, Panama Canal. | ||
| But Latin America is sitting out there, and somehow we got to get, you know, we got to help get things right. | ||
| You got Lula, an avid Marxist running a Brazil and gonna put he's put uh Bolsonaro in prison for 27 years where they uh they're where they're gonna kill him, no doubt. | ||
| Uh he's leading the BRICS Nations, gold's on a roll, and the central banks are buying gold at record rates because they're trying to use gold in these bilat deals and get it. | ||
| The de-dollarization effort is led by Lula. | ||
| Uh I know you libertarians like yourself, uh, all the all the coke guys and libertarians, you know, rubbing up on Millet, he's the greatest. | ||
| Didn't hear that here in the war room, but now however you got to save him, you've got to save him. | ||
| Scott Besson, who's not into bailouts, is giving him a 20 billion dollar bailout, right? | ||
| And on top of that, little Marco, the the the our Secretary of State, who's we try to shift away from being a neocon. | ||
| I thought we were there. | ||
| He's got an amphibious ready group off the coast of Venezuela, and they're up on Capitol Hill pitching uh, and this is the first time that the Trump administration, I think, has ever acknowledged issues, structural issues or customs and traditions. | ||
| So they're trying to get ahead of the War Powers Act by saying, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| You've misinterpreted these are non-state actors, these are drug dealers, and we're gonna do a lot more in just taking out these speed boats. | ||
| The plan has, I think, been leaked that they intend to, or at least a plan is to tend to take over the ports and transportation nodes in an actual invasion. | ||
| Uh your thoughts, sir. | ||
| Well, the secretary doesn't appear to be able to give up the old religion. | ||
| Um, as you are well aware in the first term, uh, the now Secretary of State uh was the key interlocutor of the administration selling the new President Trump back in 1718-19 on some of the most hare-brained schemes for Latin America. | ||
| Uh, members of Trump first uh Trump's first team, uh, namely Mr. Bolton and Mr. Pompeo uh were very zealous on this. | ||
| There was a bit of an abortive effort to do that. | ||
| Everyone remembers the Juan Guaido episode. | ||
| And so there was a lot of hope that this was kind of behind us. | ||
| Uh there are elements, you know, even members of President Trump's club, uh, this Harry Sargent character, uh, as well as Rick Cornell, who wanted to be Secretary of State by most reporting, uh, who wanted to do a deal basically with Maduro. | ||
| Uh Maduro is uh sort of um, you know, uh Tim Pot dictator in South America, uh, but not necessarily a major threat to U.S. national security. | ||
| And I think the risks of going in versus going uh versus you know keeping our powder dry are pretty clear. | ||
| Uh the uh Latin America has a lot of problems, South America has a lot of problems, but what it doesn't have historically, and Venezuela is the one exception vis-a-vis Colombia. | ||
| What it doesn't have is these massive refugee crises that we saw in the Syrian case and the Libyan case. | ||
| And so I think the way to think about Maduro is as maybe a Latino Gaddafi. | ||
| And we what do we learn from the Gaddafi case? | ||
| What do we learn by not listening to Gaddafi himself? | ||
| If you break it, you buy it, and you will see tons of people flowing over. | ||
| So I think it is curious, and you know, I think he deserves due deference as a sort of uh expert on this. | ||
| Uh, but you hearing uh that people like Stephen Miller uh allied with Marco Rubio for this regime change plan, I think you could be completely counterproductive. | ||
| And then if we're gonna talk about fentanyl, the reality there, and I think there's concerning Iraq war parallels, the reality here is some of these guys are just cooking this up. | ||
| Um fentanyl is not what Venezuela's in the business of. | ||
| Is there fentanyl in Venezuela? | ||
| Probably above zero, but Mexico is the fentanyl. | ||
| The CCP and the Mexican cartels are the fentanyl. | ||
| Oh, come on, you can't. | ||
| Real quickly, I and I I just want to hold you to a quick break. | ||
| But if you believe in America first, and we got in hemispheric defense, the question I want you to answer when we get back, Latin America is a festering sword. | ||
| You've got a massive problem in Argentina, and if you don't somehow intervene, it's gonna spin out of control. | ||
| You've got a huge problem in Brazil, and you do have a problem down uh in in uh in Venezuela. | ||
| So if you do want to argue hemispheric defense and come home and have expeditionary power to do total obliteration on the Eurasian landmass if we sow uh at times and places of our choosing, how do you do this? | ||
| The argument of Marco and I think Steve, Stephen Miller, is that we gotta set things right here in the Western Hemisphere. | ||
| Oh my ask Kurt Mills that on the other side. | ||
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| Kurt Mills, uh the question of South America and uh uh about if we're going to have a hemispheric defense and enforce the Monroe Doctrine 2.0, uh, you need to sort out the mess down there. | ||
| But is that just uh uh uh is this just a new breeding ground for neocon 3.0, sir? | ||
| Oh, it certainly could be. | ||
| I mean, I think there's some uh positive uh tailwinds and some some terrible headwinds. | ||
| So I I think the optimistic news is that the rumored national security strategy coming out of the Pentagon will emphasize hemispheric defense as you uh indicated. | ||
| And I think there's a way to do that that's uh very grounded in American history. | ||
| The Monroe Doctrine is not some 20th century invention, not some 21st neocon stuff. | ||
| The fifth president of the United States uh enacted it, and it has worked very well for the U.S. to be the dominant and unquestioned power in the Americas. | ||
| And it's not necessarily something, it's surely not something that I that I would seek to overturn. | ||
| Uh the danger, though, and we just talked about Russia-Ukraine earlier this morning. | ||
| The danger is of creating another Ukraine in the U.S.'s backyard. | ||
| President Putin made a mistake in his special military operation. | ||
| It backfired, it didn't work, he's recovering, uh, and the Russians have moderated their goals. | ||
| But imagine, imagine an outright invasion of one of our neighbors that becomes a breeding ground for all of our enemies to A encourage refuge massive refugee flows, and B, just muck it up. | ||
| Uh, I think we saw elements of this in June with the Iran crisis. | ||
| These reports are very, very uh sort of loosely sourced, but there was indications that the Chinese were planning to do some stuff if the war had dragged on, if it had become a regime change war. | ||
| I'm not at all convinced anymore that Xi Jinping is necessarily going to invade Taiwan, but if he sees his opportunity, it's like anything in life, like with any gambler. | ||
| Uh if he sees the U.S. mired in a war in Ukraine and then opening up a new front in Venezuela, uh, I think you could see all kinds of intervention. | ||
| And there's all kinds of Russian Chinese and even, yeah, Iranian and Lebanese money coming in there. | ||
| And it's a it could be a real risk for us. | ||
| We there's a way to do this. | ||
| Be moderate, be pragmatic. | ||
| Uh, you know, slowly move the Maduro people towards uh a more reasonable accommodation with the United States and avoid bloodshed. | ||
| Um I just want to get you on uh Israel before you punch. | ||
| I got a lot to say about the the national new national defense policies coming out. | ||
| I think it's way too weak on the CCP and Taiwan and all that, but we'll bridge Kobe and the guys are working on it. | ||
| I'll have you back on. | ||
| Maybe we'll get you on tomorrow during our naval thing and talk about the geopolitics and the strategy. | ||
| But um back to Netanyahu. | ||
| People don't remember, most people don't know or have not never learned or forgotten that Churchill, for all the things he's lionized in the West and the greatest, of course. | ||
| I understand Tucker and guys have a different perspective, but let's say he's one of the great leaders of the West in the 20th century of Christendom for all the years in the wilderness and coming and warning about the Nazis and and actually keeping FDR focused and and and being one of the key architects of victory, no doubt about that. | ||
| He the war, the the Germans surrendered on the 8th of May, 1945. | ||
| I believe it was mid-July of 1945, uh, just about 60 days later, they called an election, and Winston Churchill was turfed out before before the uh before the surrender of Japan, of which obviously the British Empire was a major part of that. | ||
| Uh, isn't Netanyahu in the same situation? | ||
| Is this and his calculations all about his political viability? | ||
| Are is it Are they thinking right now in Jerusalem and thinking through are they are they gaming out how he can continue to hold power or end up being like Churchill? | ||
| Yeah, I remember there's a cover piece a year or two ago in the Claremont Review books, my friends over there, uh that it was by Andrew Roberts, the great uh sort of Churchill stenographer who called uh Netanyahu, the Churchill of the Middle East. | ||
| He meant it as a compliment. | ||
| I think it's uh more of an accurate statement of fact, which is that Netanyahu, while the towering figure of a quarter century of Israeli politics is also in uh invincibly precarious one. | ||
| And if there is no war, there could be no power for Netanyahu. | ||
| We don't know. | ||
| His position is certainly stronger, and he was definitely underrated after the October 7th attacks. | ||
| Uh, but an election is really dicey. | ||
| And you mentioned the Churchill situation. | ||
| Uh he lost to uh a rival, uh not quite as towering, but still a significant figure in British politics, Clement Attlee, who had been the leader of the opposition before the war, had been leader of the labor party uh you know, into the 30s. | ||
| Uh Neftali Bennett, uh Netanyahu's uh protege turned rival, uh, has already been prime minister, and he could easily sell himself as a safer conservative pair of hands that will just turn down the temperature a little bit for a couple of years in Israel. | ||
| I'm not, I'm sure the White House and Trump will have problems with Netanyahu, and I think Americans will have problems, sorry, we'll have problems with Bennett, and I think there's reason to be concerned about Bennett. | ||
| I have no love lost for him. | ||
| Uh, but this is a far more stable figure. | ||
| Netanyahu at this point needs the instability. | ||
| He needs the crisis. | ||
| It's almost a sort of gormless uh desire uh for chaos. | ||
| Chaos is how he stays in the mix. | ||
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| Uh Kurt, where do people get you? | ||
| Social media and where they get you over the American conservative. | ||
| Yeah, WWE American Conservative.com, 2002, founded by Pat Buchanan and Scott McConnell and Taki against the Iraq war. | ||
| And my own stuff is at Kurt Mills at C-U-R T M I L L S on X and you know the internet. | ||
| So I think I'm pretty safe in saying the Israel First Crowd, you're their number one. | ||
| They hate you probably more than anybody, right? | ||
| I mean, they talk about Tucker and Anson, but you're you're you're kind of the the brains of the operation on the opposition. | ||
| So the smart guys hate you more than even Tucker. | ||
| Am I right in saying that? | ||
| Oh, I think it's a friendly disagreement. | ||
| Kurt Mills, thank you for joining us, sir. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| So Taj Gill, um President Trump's team went up to Capitol Hill to kind of get a workaround on the War Powers Act, which by the way, I think the War Powers Act is totally unconstitutional. | ||
| We gotta try to push that to make sure we can get some just like the uh the um election electoral counter 1887, which uh is a I think a great document we played by the rules in the in the election in 2020 was illegal, but I also think that that has certain unconstitutional provisions and is particularly what they've done toward recently. | ||
| Uh and he said we're not they said we're not going to war with Venezuela, we're not going to war with Mexico, we're not going to war in Central America, we're going to war against non, and they said we're actually at war with non-state actors, these these uh cartels. | ||
| And of course, President Trump has declared Antifa a terrorist organization, and now you got the U.S. Army. | ||
| I don't know, talking about the 82nd Airborne or uh others going actually be deployed to Portland. | ||
| Asymmetric warfare. | ||
| How dangerous is this situation in Venezuela? | ||
| And uh how quickly do you think it can be sorted out if we go asymmetric actual kinetic war against these drug cartels, sir? | ||
| Um it can it can get very dangerous, but uh we'll see. | ||
| You know, look, we took down Pablo Escobar, and there was not a lot of repercussions for that. | ||
| Everybody said if we bomb Iran, there's gonna be World War III, that didn't happen. | ||
| So I think the threat, the threat was on the table, it needs to be realized, and we need to plan for it because we have there's cartels in and especially in the states where there's legalized marijuana, there's heavy cartel activity. | ||
| So they have cartel members in the U.S. And you know, it's kind of like having a okay to sleep ourselves if we start attacking the cartels in Venezuela and Mexico. | ||
| Some people say that they're gonna start launching terrorist attacks in the U.S., but that's worst-case scenario. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| It might happen, it might not. | ||
| But the this I think the safest way to do it is using Army Special Forces. | ||
| They go in and they work with the locals and attack the cartels that way, and then the more aggressive way to do it is gonna be the way we did asymmetrical warfare in the global war on terrorism, where we're launching uh direct action missions against these cartels, their supply lamp supply lines, their training camps, and their personnel. | ||
| And you know, that's gonna be flying in the middle of the night. | ||
| Well, it'll be treated as I think it would be treated as cross-border missions. | ||
| I doubt we're gonna go in and actually set up like Ford operating bases in Venezuela or Mexico, where the cartels are. | ||
| It'll be like cross-border raids where we go in in the middle of the night, hit a target, and then leave by sunrise. | ||
| It's but hang it's but but it has been leaked that there is a plan. | ||
| I'm not saying they're executing it, but it's a plan that they're considering to see. | ||
| I mean, this is now three or four publications have it, where they're thinking of going in and seizing key ports in Venezuela, and maybe even uh transportation nodes, rail rail lines, uh rail crossings, etc. | ||
| What what would that that would be a major escalation, right? | ||
| Even if you're going against non-state actors, you're actually physically there with with the with troops and material actually on the ground that then have to be defended, correct? | ||
| Yeah, correct. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Then yeah, that that's a whole different story. | ||
| If we're we're seizing ports and strategic targets, that's different from striking the cartel personnel supply lines that I was talking about. | ||
| So I mean that's that's basically like a small-scale invasion in places, and like you said, once we take those targets, we have to hold them and defend them. | ||
| So that's a whole different ball of wax. | ||
| It's it's it's I mean, it as you know, it's possible. | ||
| We we invade countries all the time, everywhere all around the world. | ||
| So we've got the strongest military in the world and the most technological, so it's definitely possible. | ||
| And um I think I think we can do it without with without um sustaining minimal casualties just because we have the technology, and then you know, uh, what we're gonna get air dominance overnight over there if we do that. | ||
| That's that's the whole thing. | ||
| If we control the air, we can't do it. | ||
| I think we'll control the air instantaneously, right? | ||
| Not just drones, but combat air combat air patrol. | ||
| Um, Taz, you're gonna join us tomorrow for our naval special being uh you were a former your former naval personnel, um, as we refer to as Churchill. | ||
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