Sept. 19, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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| All these networks lying about the people. | ||
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| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not gonna stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| MAGA media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann. | ||
| you you Welcome. | ||
| This is Steve Bannon's War in Ben Harnwell here at the helm. | ||
| Folks, this is the first show we've taped since Charlie Kirk was struck down, gunned down last week. | ||
| Let's bring up Jenny and Frank now because we've decided decided what we're gonna do is we'll open this show today with a prayer for Charlie for the repose of his soul for his wife and children for everyone at Real America's Voice and everyone at the RAV family watching at home. | ||
| We'll say a quick prayer in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. | ||
| Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. | ||
| Holy Mary, Mother. | ||
| Pray for us. | ||
| Now and at the hour of our death. | ||
| Now at the hour of our death. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| Amen. | ||
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The Father, Son, the Holy Spirit, Amen. | |
| The only part of Scripture that I would cite at this moment is where sin increased grace abounded all the more. | ||
| Obviously, to do with the incarnation of Jesus Christ, his crucifixion, um, which redeemed us, and I think by that principle, we'll hope that God will draw a greater good out of that horrendous evil that was committed. | ||
| Um Jenny, you um let's play a quick clip of you speaking in Belfast, uh, right on the subject of Charlie, and then we'll uh we'll come back and hear uh some more analysis from you later on in the show. | ||
| Woke ideology and its intolerance of free speech is a mortal threat to us all. | ||
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Yay! | |
| The woke left decade-long campaign to cancel, demonize, unperson its political opponents, has culminated in a political assassination of one of the most effective political organizers and communicators of our age. | ||
| Charlie Kirk lived for and died for free speech. | ||
| The woke left cannot live with free speech because free speech unmasks all its lies, contradictions and hate. | ||
| Jenny, I couldn't have been proud of watching you deliver that. | ||
| I listened to the whole thing. | ||
| We'll ask Frank if he'd kindly put the the full link up on canon two on two. | ||
| Couldn't have been prouder of hearing what you spoke, what you wrote for that event um before hundreds of people in Belfast, and they picked the war rooms Jenny Holland to open the um that that conference. | ||
| You spoke very well, very beautifully about Charlie, and I think you picked the the salient points. | ||
| Um but so that 10th of September, the horrific date that it is, um, and it wasn't only Charlie who was martyred on that day. | ||
| There's uh there was another guy in France, an Iraqi Christian, uh, who was killed. | ||
| Uh in Odium Fide, uh, as well in Hatred of the Faith as well in this case. | ||
| Frank, you've got the details here. | ||
| What happened in France? | ||
| Uh, this is uh um a Chaldean Christian, which is a Catholic that had escaped ISIS in Iraq uh with his sister, and he was living in France, and he was I guess what we call a podcaster, he would stream live on TikTok, and he would talk about Catholic things. | ||
| And uh he was um everybody said he was very, you know, mild manner, he had no enemies. | ||
| Uh this was, you know, this wasn't like Charlie, a huge big enormous thing. | ||
| This was uh an average everyday Catholic doing what he thought he could do to help. | ||
| And uh he was uh there was somebody followed him to his house and stabbed him in the neck, like we've seen lately. | ||
| And uh he uh actually died on camera, bleeding, and um he uh while he while he was on camera, his sister was out shopping and she didn't have her phone, I suppose, and she didn't know, but all kinds of people were texting saying that they saw him, and by the time the uh people arrived, after even everybody was crying to get a hold of him, he was already dead. | ||
| But the police, and I think this is very typical. | ||
| They said they don't really they don't really have any leads. | ||
| They have video, somebody has video of him in a hoodie and a dark outfit, but they don't have any leads and they don't want to say anything about it. | ||
| And I think that the media has been uh, you know, sort of kind of quiet about this, kind of mute about it. | ||
| He had received threats in the past, and um, you know, it's just uh I think it's typical, and and politically, Marine Le Pen, who is really probably the most popular politician in France, but is not in power, she condemned it. | ||
| But uh, and and the uh um I think the foreign minister or the uh the interior minister, he mentioned it. | ||
| But uh that you know there, yeah, Bruno uh Bruno Retalo, he he talked about protecting Christian places of worship, but very I think very little is being done about this. | ||
| It was mentioned at Alatia magazine. | ||
| Uh it it's it's uh it's something I think that is a product of all this immigration that uh the Pope has called a sin to resist. | ||
| But this is not a new thing. | ||
| This has been happening for a long, long time. | ||
| The the attacks are up 13% just from last year, and they are terrible. | ||
| There's 400 anti-Christian acts that are recorded, mostly vandalism. | ||
| So this man, in a small way, just like Charlie Kirk was brave in the face of what was coming. | ||
| It wasn't like he was a convert, it doesn't mention that he was a convert. | ||
| He was just a Christian who had a public witness, and for that he was killed. | ||
| And it's just a matter of the numbers, I believe. | ||
| As far as I also sorry, he also on TikTok in Arabic. | ||
| So he was discussing the Christian faith to his audience in Arabic, which I think no doubt was um a factor or certainly a provocation in in a religious sense. | ||
| Um not that it's been confirmed who killed him. | ||
| Yes, it's true. | ||
| He was he was preaching actually to his own people, and he was very brave. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| What do we know? | ||
| What do we know about this this um this heroic Martha's um executioner? | ||
| What do we know about the guy who killed him? | ||
| All they all they know so far is that he was just, you know, he was just a guy wearing dark outfit and a hoodie. | ||
| They see the videos, but they haven't made any actually a statement with any kind of information about what they think uh it is. | ||
| And I I'm I'm I wonder how they even prosecuted. | ||
| I read so many stories about them just letting people off the hook who do terrible Muslims off the hook who d do terrible things. | ||
| Um, you know, I I don't know, I don't know what kind of prosecution will actually happen. | ||
| You know the the the leadership in France has such a low rating. | ||
| Uh Macron's is 15%. | ||
| He'll hold on to power at all costs. | ||
| This is this is really uh uh this is really a uh uh uh persecution of the Catholic people, and and it's not being it's not being handled politically at all. | ||
| The reports I read said that he was sorry, the reports I read that said that the attacker was waiting for him. | ||
| He was wait laying in wait for him to return to his uh residence in an apartment building. | ||
| So it sounds from that that it may it was certainly targeted. | ||
| Yes, but it was something that he was that he walked in front of the camera after being stabbed. | ||
| That's what it sounds like. | ||
| It sounds like it happened, you know, he followed him on the way. | ||
| Well, I I read that he followed him, but he was waiting for him. | ||
| Yeah, you know, the the Pope just made a statement uh recently to the people uh at Lampedusa Island that are all flooding into Europe saying he hopes to be with them soon. | ||
| The powers that be are going to permit more of this. | ||
| Tell me more about this. | ||
| You you mentioned that Pope Leo said that resisting immigration, what we call on the war room, um the invasion. | ||
| When we write about it, we correctly use capital letters just to underline the point. | ||
| It's not a subtle argument, this. | ||
| So you you mentioned that the Pope um inverted commerce said that resisting the invasion is a sin. | ||
| Tell me more about that. | ||
| Well, I it's this is something that they preach as their gospel, resisting this as a sin. | ||
| And you know that even in the United States, the bishops are always telling everybody that it's a sin. | ||
| And that uh they're saying that just recently uh that the head of the USCB immigration area said that um you know people who work for ice can't even be they should consider not going to communion. | ||
| That's a mortal sin, perhaps to work for immigration. | ||
| This is throughout the church. | ||
| Now, Leo has just started his his um talk about even though he's brought up immigration over and over and over. | ||
| Um he he, you know, this Lampedusa visit like Francis did right when Francis became Pope, that's coming. | ||
| So he'll be down there on that island, which is really an island, a stopping point for Muslims to come into Europe. | ||
| How how is a country like France supposed to prosecute when you have so many when you have you past a critical mass of people, and they're they're so different than you that your very words require death. | ||
| What we're supposed to fill, you know, supposed to Islamic Christian Europe and put all of these people at risk. | ||
| Like this is just a you know, in China, they just made this kind of thing that this mandate illegal for all priests. | ||
| That's in the news today, too. | ||
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So we have no support coming from Rome, really. | |
| I thought you were going to give me some good news to say that Pope Leo is really leading a different path from Pope Francis. | ||
| It's not Bed Golia 2.0. | ||
| This is a new moderate, conservative, moderate traditional Pope, you know, citing as all of Trad Inc. | ||
| is doing the fact that Leo's given permission to Cardinal Burke to celebrate the traditional Latin Mass in St. Peter's. | ||
| Um at the same time as Cardinal Burke will be Cardinal Zupi, he's going to also be, and they don't ever mention that, but Cardinal Zupi is like the uh uh point man for the San Egidio group, which is sort of like a another Catholic, well-funded operation to create channels of migrants going through Europe where it makes it difficult to help them legally get funneled into different parts of Europe. | ||
| That's also happening with Cardinal at Cardinal Burke's Mass. | ||
| So, you know, they they say many over and over again from both on both sides of the pond that migrants have the face of Christ, like Mary and Joseph, and it would be a sin not to permit more. | ||
| But but you have a cultural difference that is is actually deadly, which we're finding out in other, you know, with Charlie Kirk too. | ||
| We're finding that in the United States. | ||
| We're finding that with the with the massacre at the school in the Catholic school in Minnesota and the one before in Nashville, that the idea the actual that the these transsexuals have sort of a religious animosity towards Christianity. | ||
| Just before we move on, Frank, all of the world quite rightly has been talking about the slaying of Charlie Kirk. | ||
| A guy who wasn't Catholic. | ||
| Um who was Protestant, but he very coherently and convincingly lived out publicly his Christian faith. | ||
| All the world is talking about this. | ||
| Can you tell me how many interventions have emerged from the Holy See over the last week? | ||
| They a very, very embarrassingly and disappointingly mild intervention. | ||
| And it was it was really prompted. | ||
| You know, I mean, I think that I think that the left was completely shocked by The response to this Charlie Kirk assassination all over the world. | ||
| I mean, billions of people were interested in this. | ||
| And he definitely had a strong Christian witness. | ||
| He wasn't shy about it at all. | ||
| And while everybody was making a statement that the head of the Catholic Church, you would think would have, you know, some skin in the game here. | ||
| That he would be interested in seeing in uh in protecting Catholics, said nothing. | ||
| Absolutely nothing. | ||
| He gave an interview about how he's getting used to being a world leader, but he didn't he didn't do anything that a world leader would know any world leader would do. | ||
| Just out of human decency, he said nothing. | ||
| And it took the new ambassador from Trump's White House to go there and meet with him and release very quietly that he actually said something. | ||
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He said that he meant. | |
| But he didn't do that. | ||
| He didn't say that out publicly. | ||
| That's a sort of a hearsay, a second in command. | ||
| I think it was I think it was a little bit of damage control coming from uh people in the White House that would that hope that Leo would somehow appeal to their constituents. | ||
| I think it was a shame. | ||
| And but they're they're hyping it. | ||
| You know, you see, they're making like big memes out of it now. | ||
| Leo said something about Charlie Kirk, but it was really just uh, you know, it was something that was relayed by the ambassador. | ||
| It was a private commerce. | ||
| It was perfunctory. | ||
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| Okay. | ||
| Um so all Catholics of goodwill who followed this show can watch that and note that um and draw the draw the dots. | ||
| Thanks for for that breakdown, Frank. | ||
| Jenny will just be coming to you in a couple of moments to hear more about what happened in Belfast over the last few days. | ||
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| So Jenny, you in Belfast, you were speaking about Charlie Kirk. | ||
| Tell me about the atmosphere there. | ||
| I guess by the turnout there, people in Ireland did know who Charlie was and were sufficiently moved to come and pay their respects. | ||
| Where was that conference, that street protest conference commemoration taking place? | ||
| It was taking place directly in front of Belfast City Hall, which is a very traditional location for all rallies and protests. | ||
| Every weekend, I think still to this day, they're there the palace, the pro-Palestinians take over the city center and march past the city hall. | ||
| So we we reclaimed uh a small uh space for the side of sanity on Saturday. | ||
| The the protest was or or the rally was organized by a party called the Traditional Unionist Voice, which is a political party with uh counselors and local representatives, and they are considered by you know the liberal uh establishment uh to be you know beyond the pale uh quote unquote far right. | ||
| But actually the people in the crowd were um, and I said this in the speech, extremely politically diverse. | ||
| There's people like me who were former lefties, there was gay men, gay women, um, a lot of people who uh loved Charlie, um, not because they agreed with everything he said, but because he was so sound and he was so consistent on the basic reality of that fact that men cannot be women. | ||
| So I was getting messages all week last week from TERFs, as we call them here in the UK, trans exclusionary radical feminists, uh devastated at Charlie's assassination. | ||
| Um so whilst there was a very um the TUV is closely associated with evangelical Protestantism, and they're very, very devout um of various Protestant denominations. | ||
| Um this was this is it showed once again that the true political and ideological diversity exists only on the right. | ||
| There is no place for any um uh uh divergence on the left. | ||
| Everyone on the left and on the liberal side has to be singing from the same hymn sheet, but on the right, you find people who, if you approach them in good faith, will absolutely listen to you and hear you out and can make common cause with you. | ||
| So overall, the mood at the rally, because it was explicitly a memorial and uh uh in honor of Charlie Kirk and his incredible work, the mood was somber, but I have to say, very, very resolute. | ||
| People have had it uh up to here. | ||
| They are sick to the back teeth of being afraid to state basic real truths and basic common sense. | ||
| We're tired of being slandered as Nazis and far right. | ||
| We're we're we're done. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| We cannot do it anymore. | ||
| That was definitely the mood at the rally on Sun on Saturday. | ||
| Now tell me something, Northern Ireland is famous historically over many, many decades now for the sectarian difficulties between um the troubles, capital T, capital T, right? | ||
| Um between Protestants and Catholics. | ||
| Was the composition of the people who were there to give support of mixed um background, or was it predominantly one or the other? | ||
| Well, it's hard to say. | ||
| You can't tell who's Catholic and who's Protestant, uh, just by looking at people. | ||
| Um, I mean the the truth is though that the nationalist, I the Irish nationalist parties, which are uh Catholic in denomination, um, are nowhere near this issue. | ||
| They are they have fled, they have left the room. | ||
| Um they are not representing um what I think is the majority opinion of sort of common sense everyday people. | ||
| And so really this torch has been picked up by the quote unquote Protestant side. | ||
| I mean, the and this was the same during COVID as well. | ||
| It was parties like the TUV and other like very sort of hard-line quote-unquote unionist parties that stood against the COVID mandates. | ||
| Um the the Catholic side has has really dropped the ball, and they're nowhere to be found. | ||
| Whether or not, though, there, I mean, there was certainly people of Catholic faith in attendance. | ||
| I would be certain of that. | ||
| Um, but you know, it wasn't, it was it was more of a kind of overarching Christian theme. | ||
| Um nobody here, no, no loyalist party here wants to return to the sectarian violence that saw 3,000 lives brutally ended um over what was essentially identity politics. | ||
| I mean, everyone says it was, I mean, it's perceived as a religious conflict. | ||
| It was not a religious conflict. | ||
| It was an identitarian conflict with certain sort of socioeconomic uh roots. | ||
| But you know, Northern Ireland invented identity politics, and I've been saying this for years. | ||
| So we know very, very well how um dangerous and murderous identity politics is an off it's a perfect opposite opportunity, I think. | ||
| Um commemorations like this to bring both sides together. | ||
| And of course, you know, if we're gonna win on the cultural wars, that's exactly what needs to happen. | ||
| Protestants can be pretty good on the ground. | ||
| Um Catholics tend to wait for institutional support from from the Parish Priest from the bishop. | ||
| And that's not that's not coming. | ||
| And that's not coming. | ||
| Uh that's why Canon 212 exists. | ||
| It's why the war room exists, because we're trying, we're out there trying to give people back their sense of agency. | ||
| Um, which is essential because as I say, it's it's not gonna come from the Catholic hierarchy. | ||
| They're all firmly overworking in the devil's corner of the vineyard. | ||
| Jenny, just be just on on this subject, though, uh, on the on the Northern Island situation and this commemoration. | ||
| Tell me something. | ||
| Has the um has how powerful has the fact been that Charlie was killed properly really at his at his signature event, the prove me wrong um university uh um debate series where people could go and you know he very few people on the left will say prove me wrong in a public setting. | ||
| Uh that's not managed. | ||
| Here's Charlie, he did this all the time, prove me wrong. | ||
| And he was gunned down by so in the grip of someone in this ferocious, irrational anger, hatred, by the way, is the word it's just in the final two minutes of of this segment. | ||
| How much is that point filtering through to people in Northern Ireland Northern Ireland here? | ||
| The fact that here you have a guy that the left was calling fascist, saying, I'm here for debate, I'm here for dialogue, and killed by people who always put forward uh as the exponents of dialogue who just didn't want the debate, they don't want the discussion. | ||
| Is that part of the dynamic there of the people who turn out? | ||
| Certainly, oh it's very clear. | ||
| I mean, the the the message couldn't be clearer. | ||
| He was shot in the throat while speaking truth and uh speaking truth very powerfully. | ||
| I think that um, however, much like the rest of the West, the those who know and believe in in his message know and see the significance of it. | ||
| On the other side, however, I'm seeing a lot of these sort of propagandistic lies being spread on social media about how he was actually killed by a MAGA represent by a MAGA fan or like a gun nut. | ||
| Um, so you know, it's a really it's very similar situation. | ||
| Like the the problem lies with the liberal left and their inability to um face reality and the inability to have any kind of dialogue in good faith. | ||
| They must always return to smears and lies because fundamentally the truth is not on their side. | ||
| So the only reaction you ever get from them are um is lies and and hysteria and slander. | ||
| Um, you know, Charlie Kirk had a lot of young fans here in Northern Ireland, a lot of young men and young women. | ||
| There's a lot of young people in that crowd. | ||
| Um, but they know they know uh they know what happened, they know the truth of the matter, and they are going to carry that message on forward for the rest of their lives. | ||
| And you know, unfortunately, I mean that they did silence his voice in that in that moment, but his message they will did not silence at all. | ||
| In fact, if anything, it's only growing and growing and growing, especially amongst young people. | ||
| Very powerful, Jenny. | ||
| Um thanks for for that analysis and thanks for being there at Belfast and for speaking so well. | ||
| We'll be back with you, Jenny, in just two minutes' time. | ||
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| Well, one of the dynamics that we talk about constantly on the warroom is the fact that most of our institutions, most of the media, most of those who are in charge of promoting and pushing culture seem to be on the left and arguably are pushing pushing a line very much within the within the um the satanic, if I might put it like that. | ||
| Points of um points of uh principle. | ||
| But conversely, at the same time as that dynamic, there's another dynamic, which is a thirst for God. | ||
| Um, and here in the West, this is particularly noticeable right now. | ||
| You see many, many you know, young kids who 10 years ago perhaps would not have been that interested in Christianity, certainly in the UK, coming out from the front and leading this this campaign to paint the flag of St. George, the the white the white background, the red cross and the white background. | ||
| Um so you have these two dynamics. | ||
| You had you you have the the spiritual attacks coming from the fact that most of our governance seems to be in the hand of hands of the devil, and conversely, you have a lot of people now searching for God. | ||
| Uh and one of these, I think, places where this is taking place, these two currents are running into one another, is on AI on the internet, on social media, uh, on apps. | ||
| Um and a couple of people, quite a few people recently have been suggesting that that the devil might actually be behind and integrated within AI. | ||
| Jenny, there's this story in the New York Times that says uh millions are turned into chat books, chat bots for guidance from on high. | ||
| Um tell me a bit about this article, the the main thesis, and then tell me whether you think this is a good thing, a dangerous thing, or possibly at this stage, both. | ||
| Yeah, I think at this stage both is probably the most extinct answer. | ||
| This is a fascinating article. | ||
| I was really, really gobsmacked by this. | ||
| Um because on the one, so the story is about the popularity of uh religious apps, and their tens of millions of subscribers and downloads. | ||
| Um, and on the one hand, these um apps, especially the ones that you incorporate chatbots and chat GPT and and AI, um, so users can message and they will get a response um on religious matters. | ||
| Um there is something very, very dystopian about that. | ||
| Uh imagine sitting up late at night texting into your into your app, uh, you know, hello God, are you there? | ||
| And getting a response. | ||
| Um, and God know who who knows what what is powering this response? | ||
| I mean, large language models are large language models, but um there is something very sinister uh about it, and it feels very much like sort of a science fiction uh horror story. | ||
| But actually, when you read the article, there's some extremely illuminating data points in there. | ||
| One of which was that um at one point, I think last year, Halo, which is an app that I actually use and subscribe to, um, had uh the number one spot on the Apple's uh app store. | ||
| That means it was higher in downloads than Netflix, Instagram, and TikTok. | ||
| This is incredible, okay? | ||
| If Halo can compete with TikTok, which I think presents the sort of polar opposite uh in terms of the the you know, the ghost in the machine, the TikTok uh ecosystem is very creepy and very um, you know, often very malignant. | ||
| Um and Hallow uh is you know, Bible verses and the rosary and all these things. | ||
| Um so the fact that there is such a need for this and such a strong desire for this is incredibly um positive. | ||
| I think that's something to celebrate. | ||
| I think it's actually a white pill. | ||
| Um and I mean the other thing is that you know, people have been disillusioned to a huge degree by the institutional churches. | ||
| Um we were locked, you know, well, we weren't Christians, we're locked out of their churches during COVID, and Christian leadership went along with that. | ||
| So it's absolutely no surprise. | ||
| And who can blame people for turning turning to the thing they always have with them, which is their phone? | ||
| The other very interesting thing in the in the article, which um gives sort of graphics showing how these chatbots work, well, you'll type in a question and uh some sort of godly being responds to you, which doesn't sound at all um like a positive thing, but in the examples given in the piece, the the the responses were actually scriptural, scriptural. | ||
| They were Bible uh verses. | ||
| Um, in one case it was a psalm, a woman approach woman uh logged in to ask for comfort, and the uh chat bot gave her a psalm, and she said it was very helpful in her moment of need. | ||
| And I have to say, guys, um I I'm getting more Bible and scripture from this app that uh is being quoted in the New York Times than I have heard from anything out of the Vatican and the Pope uh this entire summer that we've been doing, all these months that we've been doing this show. | ||
| Every time I look to the Vatican content, it's all these platitudes and like you know, received wisdom and conventional takes. | ||
| And I've never heard one time in you know, in all of these things, anyone act any of them actually quoting from the Bible or talking about God or Jesus. | ||
| So whilst there's absolutely something dark about chat GPT and large language models um sort of assuming the role of God, that is a terrifying proposition. | ||
| There's also some I've also heard very alarming stories about um chat bots that sort of go off the reservation somewhat and end up saying very sinister things to young people. | ||
| And those stories are truly, truly horrifying. | ||
| Um, but you know, I mean, if these people are getting Bible verses, there's something to be said for that. | ||
| I've Frank, I've you know, I've been waiting for for for for years for for the Vatican to talk about sin. | ||
| And then it was Frank Walker who said early on in the show that this Papist finally said something about sin. | ||
| That is, if you resist the the invasion, that's sin. | ||
| Frank go ahead. | ||
| The amazing thing, I agree, is that that there's such a need for this. | ||
| There's such a need for this that people would go to these kind of crazy, this seems crazy efforts, but they have they have no familiarity with religion at all, and they they won it so bad. | ||
| It's it we're being deprived of a part of us that's and it's just amazing what they've done to us. | ||
| And and uh that's a positive. | ||
| I agree with that, but uh, you're right that it's sinister because uh the the there's a move today for them to for the left to build what they stole from us, you know. | ||
| So they want to get in the middle of this and they want to make sure they have control over it, just like they've kind of stolen the Catholic church, and they've put a Pope who is a Pope of this new religion that doesn't mention anything Catholic that only mentions make sins out of things that are political things and aren't aren't helpful at all. | ||
| So I think that's what this is all about. | ||
| And we always wonder why does it keep coming back? | ||
| It's such a silly idea. | ||
| This isn't a real person. | ||
| And in the piece, there um Father Mike Smith says, you know, they they'll they have record of all this. | ||
| You can't really go to confession this way. | ||
| But uh, I think they want to make that like I read David Horowitz, the late David Hogwarts said once the radical is great at destroying things, but they're not really, they don't really have any good ideas about building the New things back, the new world that they're trying to create, they kind of fall down there. | ||
| And that's what this is. | ||
| This is trying to create this new um, you know, uh media kind of type of AI world they can have control over and a whole new religion. | ||
| And unfortunately, the Catholic Church is quite a part of it. | ||
| Fine, let me ask you this question. | ||
| Have you ever used um any form of AI app like Chat GPT? | ||
| No, no, I don't, but I I do Google a lot of things, and I find that that you know, I think it's very helpful. | ||
| And I know people that work with AI and they find it very helpful too. | ||
| I don't think I think it's just a new, a new level of computer power, is what it really is. | ||
| But I noticed that in coming out of the Vatican that they they're always talking about it. | ||
| It's they have big meetings, they pull together, people from uh Microsoft and all sorts of businesses discuss it, and that's not a good sign. | ||
| What that means is they want to have be involved in that. | ||
| They want to they want to they want to have a new this they've been so successful with media over the last hundred years at being able to create this society and destroying religion in the hearts and the lives of people. | ||
| They they have no contact with their culture with the people from the past, they don't know what to do. | ||
| That's why they're going to this machine. | ||
| That they just want to make sure that they they are the compute they in their mind, the computing and the AI is something a tool that they can use to continue to manipulate us to give us this whole new religion. | ||
| They know that we need religion, that's why they stole it. | ||
| They want to give us a new one now. | ||
| But that's just the bad side. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They are doing it. | ||
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| It's interesting because the I use ChatGP a little bit, and I also, but I also use the Hallow app, um, which I don't think has the chat function. | ||
| Um, but it's it's fascinating because you know the need is so strong. | ||
| And what the the need represents, not just the need for spirituality, but spiritual leadership. | ||
| And that is completely lacking in at least in so far in the Catholic Church and in this new papacy. | ||
| I mean, um Popleo did an interview, release this in the first interview since um ascending to the the throne. | ||
| And um in it he complained, or you know, he expressed concern that Elon Musk was gonna was earning too much money, and um, you know, he he expressed concern over wealth inequality. | ||
| Um, and he also said, he also said that the polarization in society was down to the erosion of the family and society. | ||
| And I mean, that is a very banal statement. | ||
| That's sort of like saying, I don't like bad guys, I don't like bad things, I don't like mean people. | ||
| I mean, you know, where is the really hard leadership? | ||
| Why why did he not say what was causing the erosion of the family and society? | ||
| Instead, he just goes through with these platitudes and these vague statements that it's very hard to disagree with. | ||
| And I mean, this is exactly what the church of England does. | ||
| This is exactly what the leadership just our government leadership does as well. | ||
| I mean, it's almost indistinguishable from this sort of lib dem, you know, happy clappy, oh why can't we all get along uh vibe over the of the centrists in politics? | ||
| We obviously can't all get along. | ||
| We obviously need something harder and truer and more robust. | ||
| Um, and if AI is the only place that that the layperson, the you know, the the humble sinner can get that. | ||
| I mean, maybe in the short term, but I I would agree with Frank. | ||
| I mean, it's it's it's a is a very strange direction to take. | ||
| My very limited experience with faith um does indicate to me that it needs um flesh and blood and it needs uh material reality. | ||
| Um, it needs physical space, bricks and mortar, um, and those things are irreplaceable. | ||
| Musk's um I actually didn't go go he he mentioned musk in that in that situation because he that's a political opportunity for him. | ||
| There's a a lot of of zillionaires that he could have mentioned, but he has to worry about his own support, you know. | ||
| But Musk, that's that's a never he in his mind that's still a never Trump thing to discuss. | ||
| And it's a precursor to this encyclical, which he's getting ready to release, which is all on this subject. | ||
| He's supposed to be the new Leo the 13th, and that we can see now from this what he said here by referring to Musk, who retweeted back to him today and told him take the log out of your own eye, which is very I think very relevant. | ||
| He we can see from that that this encyclical is going to be completely political. | ||
| It's gonna be a political um uh hammer to hit back at uh and that and that's why he was the same way with Charlie Kirk. | ||
| He's the Pope of left-wing politics, and that's his job. | ||
| We um he is the honorary chaplain of the New World Order, as was his predecessor, the late unlamented Bergoglio. | ||
| We that's all we've got time for on that segment. | ||
| We could chew this one over for the whole hour. | ||
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| Um guys, I just want to say one thing uh to tie some of these things that we've been discussing on the show together. | ||
| You're you're gonna have a situation when say, look at the UK, including Northern Ireland, right? | ||
| You um you're gonna have a situation in the next couple of years where people are gonna be so fired up about protecting their cultural identity, their homeland from all forms of um undermining coming out of the invasion, but not only the invasion. | ||
| Tens of thousands of young kids, they're gonna be completely unchurched, but they know they are going to identify very strongly as Christian, and they're gonna come knocking at the doors of churches of the Church of England of the Catholic Church, right? | ||
| Our priests and our pastors need to be ready for this and need to take this opportunity that I think Christ is giving them to regrow Christianity here in what used to be called Christendom. | ||
| Uh, but I have the fear, you know. | ||
| Listen to what you're saying, Jenny. | ||
| Listen to what you're saying, Frank. | ||
| I have this fear in the bottom of my heart that that door is gonna be slammed firmly in their faces, which will be a great tragedy and a great waste, especially as Jenny, as you're just exposing to us on the back of an article in all places, the New York Times, just how strong this thirst is for God. | ||
| You know, and there's a thirst that only God um can respond to. | ||
| It is interesting. | ||
| I was gonna say earlier when you were talking about just the wishy-washy platitudes coming out of the Vatican. | ||
| I think this is why Islam is doing so well, because it offers certainty. | ||
| Um relative simplicity behind it's it's I've said before I did Islam is a false religion, it's not founded on the divine revelation of God to mankind, but Muslims live that faith very coherently, very credit credibly, and that coherence is to use the word evangelizing. | ||
| People see that and they respond to it, they respond to it positively because man is made to respond uh to seeing people live their faith coherently. | ||
| Can I add something to that? | ||
| Um there it's also very uh they're very confident in their belief, they're very confident and openly expressing it, um, uh to put it mildly. | ||
| Um, and what happens when um Christians are confidently express those beliefs? | ||
| Other so-called Christians or other uh even non-woke liberals uh try and tear them down and try and um portray them as some sort of crypto fascist um shadowy Christian nationalist uh entity. | ||
| So we are shaming our own side, essentially, when especially young people want to uh be bold and brave and and trumpet their true uh and and um authentic belief. | ||
| Um people who are supposed to leave supposedly on their own side then go and tear them down. | ||
| This is a grave problem in the West in general, and it's very hard to move forward and making common cause in a united front when um you know people who are supposed to be on our own side are trying to prevent us, malign us, or um shut us down. | ||
| Yeah, we are very much being kicked in the back of our knees by people who ought to be leading the way too many hiring shepherds, not not enough shepherds. | ||
| Jenny, where do people go on social media to catch up with your analysis? | ||
| Best place is Substack, which is Jenny E. Holland.substack.com, and you can also find me on ex at Semperfemina 21. | ||
| And Frank, where do people go for for Canon 212? | ||
| Canon 212 with one and type it up in the uh address line, and also uh you can see the daily update at Glory TV and at um Rumble and on Twitter, canon 212 spelled out. | ||
| Um and you have your Substack as well. | ||
| Folks, don't forget, I say this every time Canon 212 is such an important resource in in keeping you informed on what's going on to help help restore your sense of agency as Catholics to hold our hireling shepherds to account. | ||
| That is all we have time for today. | ||
| We'll be back next week, same time. | ||
| Thank you to my guests, Frank Walker, Jenny Holland, to Spencer and Will, and everyone will America's voice. |
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