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Sept. 18, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4789: CDC Vaccine Board Meeting; The Fall Of Kimmel
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steve bannon
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ben rhodes
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boone cutler
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dr meryl nass
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jeffrey goldberg
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maureen bannon
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mike lindell
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phillip patrick
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rand paul
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eric bolling
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katty kay
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stephanie ruhle
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stephen a smith
00:52
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unidentified
Text messages and the videos that don't make any sense, no timeline.
That text message is ridiculous.
eric bolling
I mean, that text message gives them.
unidentified
It puts the shooter in the theater.
It tells him, gave him motive, motivation, the hatred.
And then when the tranny says, how long have you been thinking about it?
eric bolling
And he says, about a week, that gives him premeditation.
unidentified
It's a slam dunk.
That kid's going, he's going to firing squad in Utah.
But who else is involved?
eric bolling
Because it doesn't, there's no, there's no way in my world, I think, kids.
unidentified
Anyway, your show, I love your brother.
We'll be talking to you again tomorrow, hopefully.
steve bannon
Appreciate your Eric Bowling.
unidentified
Always.
Not a lot of people know that history, that both Eric Bowling and Boris and others were over with Dave Smith over at St. Clair.
They really try to build up something.
Okay.
First off, we had another tragedy today.
I'm going to get to it a little bit later when Mo has arrived at the place where she's going.
She's involved in some activities with conservatives this weekend.
Boone Cutler, Sergeant Boone Cutler, Mike Flynn's partner, a great patriot, a great member of the service, and a next generation warfare expert.
steve bannon
In fact, he was coming out.
unidentified
He and Flynn are coming in a new book, Unrestricted Warfare, but I think they've done, was it, Fourth Generation Warfare?
steve bannon
They just, a brilliant guy died today of a heart attack.
unidentified
We're going to talk about that at the bottom of the hour as soon as we get Mo set up.
Let's go ahead and talk.
steve bannon
Let's go bring in the meltdown they've had on Jimmy Kimmel because, hey, they are mad.
unidentified
We've hit a hornet's nest right now.
steve bannon
You'll see.
Let's go ahead and play it.
stephanie ruhle
ABC is pulling Jimmy Kimmel live off the air indefinitely following Kimmel's comments about Charlie Kirk.
unidentified
Kimmel raised the possibility that the suspect in the killing might have been a pro-Trump Republican, according to authorities.
That wasn't true.
That comment immediately drew the attention of FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr, who threatened to, quote, take action, action, action against Disney's ABC.
We should note the FCC licenses stations owned by or are affiliated with ABC.
It does not license the network itself.
stephanie ruhle
Earlier tonight, the president celebrated the decision, saying in part, quote, great news for America.
The ratings challenge Jimmy Kimmel show is canceled.
Congratulations to ABC for finally having the courage to do what had to be done.
ben rhodes
Some people see this and they think, well, you know, it's just one TV show.
unidentified
It's just Stephen Colbert.
It's just Jimmy Kimmel.
It's just late night.
ben rhodes
What you have to see it is a part of a concerted strategy where not only do you have pro-Trump oligarchs consolidating control of the media, and frankly, that's what they are.
unidentified
I mean, if they were, if we were talking about Russia, if we were talking about Hungary, if we're talking about Turkey, you're talking about government-associated oligarchs, wealthy people with interest before the government, buying up the media because that's one way to retain favor with the leader.
But also, really importantly, it's the example that is set.
It's not just about what Jimmy Kimmel or Stephen Colbert said.
ben rhodes
It's the fact that they basically got axed for their speech.
unidentified
That is a message to every other broadcaster on every other medium in this country that if you say something the leader doesn't like, you're probably at risk of getting axed.
ben rhodes
They want Chris people like you and me to be sitting here right now and have another voice in our head every time we open our mouths that if we say the wrong thing, that might be it for us too, right?
unidentified
This is not just cancel culture.
It's way beyond that.
ben rhodes
It's trying to enforce essentially an ideological test on the broad-based news media that reaches the vast majority of Americans so that the only content they're seeing is essentially ideologically aligned with whatever Trump and his FCC director and a small group of people around him think.
unidentified
That's what's happening.
And we're pretty advanced.
The only other thing I'd say, Chris, is we're pretty far along on this thing, right?
ben rhodes
Like it took Putin a while to do this.
unidentified
It took Orban a while to do this.
I think maybe because we're actually going to think of this as we're in year nine of the Trump era, like he had one term to see what the landscape was like.
He had four years out of power to consider what he'd do if you get back.
ben rhodes
They studied what Orban did.
unidentified
They studied what Erdogan did, what Putin did.
ben rhodes
There's one playbook that has been pursued everywhere.
unidentified
And I think what Americans need to realize is we're not at the beginning of the playbook, Chris.
We're near the end of the playbook.
I mean, that's the classic playbook of authoritarian-minded people.
Use this, use an excuse, use an excuse of violence to go after people who have nothing to do with that particular violence.
Carl Rova's right.
jeffrey goldberg
A person with a gun killed Charlie Kerr.
unidentified
Are there bad ideas and good ideas circulating in society?
Of course there are.
And according to our tradition, a very, very long tradition in America, we argue out these positions together.
And by the way, we even argue them on late night television.
And sometimes the comedian goes too far, goes the wrong way.
And then the next night they say, well, I went the wrong way or I went too far.
jeffrey goldberg
And that's the way we deal with it.
We're self-correcting.
We don't have bullying federal institutions come in and try essentially to censor arguments they don't like.
unidentified
Again, it's going to, they're going to reap the whirlwind of that one day.
And I just, what I don't understand is that it just goes against every impulse that they've articulated, which is to say, you know, the right had very reasonable critiques of cancel culture.
jeffrey goldberg
Stop punishing people for life or the dumb things that they say.
unidentified
They have the power.
They have the FCC now.
And bam, apparently that philosophy is out the window.
And the new philosophy is if you have a little power, use it.
katty kay
Becoming increasingly clear, isn't it, Mike, that people around President Trump, who are now in the White House, spent the four years that President Trump was out of power thinking how can we dismantle liberal with a small L institutions that conservatives have had gripes about, sometimes fairly, sometimes not fairly, for a very long time.
unidentified
And we're seeing them do that systematically.
And anytime there is an opportunity and they feel that public opinion will let them push that much further, it seems they're going to go as far as they can.
And it was a sick individual that murdered Charlie Kirk.
And we should be focused on the fact that we don't need to be seeing anything like that in the streets of America, no matter where you are.
We are a civilized society, okay?
We're not supposed to conduct ourselves that way, and we're not supposed to be condoning any such thing.
And the only thing that I would say as it pertains to Jimmy Kimmel was, where was the joke?
stephen a smith
Because you're a late night host.
unidentified
And obviously that has a comedic attachment to it.
Where was the joke?
Obviously, it wasn't anything funny about that.
And so we have to take that into consideration and make sure that we play our positions and understand what we can and cannot say.
Because we have a responsibility when we have a camera and a microphone in front of us to articulate ourselves in an appropriate fashion.
We can be dogged.
We can be opinionated.
We can provide perspectives.
We could do a lot of things.
But we could also be responsible while doing so.
Okay, Thursday, 18 September, Year of our Lord 2025.
Welcome to the afternoon, early evening edition of The War Room.
So much is going on today.
steve bannon
We started the day earlier today.
unidentified
Of course, in the United Kingdom, and we had a fascinating discussion about artificial intelligence since that seems like what a lot of the deal for nuclear power was about.
This Kimmel situation, number one, no, we're not nearer.
These guys don't get it, but that's good.
steve bannon
We're not near the end of the playbook.
We're just flipping through the beginning chapters of the playbook.
We are going to deconstruct the administrative state.
unidentified
That's what the commentator, the British commentator, was trying to spit out.
We're deconstructing the administrative state.
We're going to destroy the deep state, but we're also going to destroy the institutions that are trying to perform a color revolution on the American people.
steve bannon
President Trump said yesterday, as we've been talking about here in the war room since, was it last Wednesday when we flew out after Charlie was assassinated to Utah, that we need to designate Antifa.
unidentified
And by designating Antifa, you'll roll up this entire group around it.
steve bannon
The NGO's been giving them money.
unidentified
The billionaires, the foreign billionaires have been giving them money.
Their media partners, this is what they're sweating.
steve bannon
They've designated a terrorist organization.
unidentified
And that means just like Al-Qaeda and all these other radical Islamic groups that you start to roll up, or at least partially roll up, you can start rolling these up, okay?
steve bannon
And it's going to be full on.
unidentified
And here's the thing.
I love hearing these people squeal because people are contacting me and say, hey, can you get on here to debate about the First Amendment?
steve bannon
We ain't debating anything.
unidentified
We're taking action.
Jimmy Kimmel shut down because he smeared the MAGA movement and really denigrated the memory of Charlie Kirk by lying, like he does all the time, lying and lying and lying.
And the affiliates, it's the affiliates that had a belly full of said, hey, look, we got to sell the, you know, the tire, the guys that sell you tires, the local grocery store, the people who provide services to folks on these local ads, and we're not going to be able to sell them because people understand this guy's hate-filled.
And now they're talking about, oh, if he made a donation, there's no donation he can make big enough.
Two down, two to go.
Okay, two of the worst.
steve bannon
Colbert.
unidentified
And my strongest recommendation to CBS, you've got to pull the plug on Colbert now.
Please don't make the nation suffer through.
steve bannon
Just pay his contract down.
unidentified
What do you care?
I could do the math.
steve bannon
He loses $40 million a year.
unidentified
The show costs $100.
Can you believe that?
steve bannon
The show cost $100 million a year to produce.
unidentified
He brings in $60, loses $40.
Just shut it down now.
You'll end up losing less money, even if you've got to pay off his contract.
steve bannon
Just shut it down now.
unidentified
That ought to be the pressure put on CBS.
steve bannon
Shut it down now, just like they gave the hook on Jimmy Kimmel.
There's no apology.
unidentified
There's no groveling.
There's no money.
Kimmel is gone.
Just get rid of him.
You've got so much more you've got to clean up.
And I think as the new owners of CBS and others, they'll start to clean this up.
And it is one line of attack.
And they say, oh, the playbook of Orban.
President Trump doesn't need Orban's playbook.
steve bannon
Although Victor Orban, for a small country, did a fabulous job.
President Trump's got his own playbook, and he's running through it.
unidentified
Okay?
And as we've said, and this is where Charlie invited me to the Student Action Summit back in July, and you guys remember the broadcast we did from there over a couple of days.
And you also hopefully remember the speech where I got up and said, hey, of all the great stuff President Trump's doing, all the great stuff that we're fighting for, of everything that's just incredible and wins all over the place, if we don't take apart the deep state, if we don't really get into it and take this apart and understand that anybody that's not with us is again us.
You know, you got Mike Pence, you got all these guys blubbering.
Mike Pence is blubbering on that sanctimonious voice and talking about the Bible, right?
steve bannon
The Bible says, you know, Mike Pence, Judas Pence, hey, read the section on Judas, dude.
unidentified
That's the part of the Bible you ought to know because you're a traitor to President Trump, the MAGA movement, and the country because the 2020 election was stolen.
steve bannon
Did you hear any of these people, by the way?
unidentified
Did you hear any of them complain or say, well, the First Amendment and free speech?
steve bannon
Have you seen anybody about free speech with War Room and so many other individuals and podcasts, including President Trump, when they ripped him off, what, Twitter and Facebook when he's still president of the United States?
unidentified
Do you remember anything about free speech, the arguments for free speech?
You know why?
steve bannon
They only do it when they're losing.
So you sit there on your shows, you sit there on MSNBC and CNN, New York Times, and editorials and Karl Rove right up in the Wall Street Journal.
unidentified
We don't give a tinker's damn about your thoughts on the First Amendment.
steve bannon
President Trump and I think the FCC and others are going to start shutting stuff down.
unidentified
And here's what's happening.
Came from the people that have the capital applied at the affiliate level and where the rubber meets the road, where really the American people make decisions on what they're going to watch.
And guess what?
Jimmy Kimmel's not sellable.
As Steve Colbert is not sellable.
steve bannon
If he was sellable, why does he lose $40 million a year?
unidentified
That is a donation.
That is a payment in kind to the Democratic Party.
If I was the Justice Department, I strongly recommend looking at old CBS and going through it.
And Stephen Colbert, and why is that not a federal election commission violation?
Because it's a direct comparison.
It's a direct, it's a payment in kind to the Democratic Party.
He's spewing his hate, what they did an analysis.
I don't forget, 900 liberal, progressive Democrats to one Republican.
steve bannon
It doesn't even matter.
unidentified
The Republican he's going to put up there is like a Kinzinger or Liz Cheney.
steve bannon
It's pure Trump hate every day.
unidentified
This is what drives these assassinations.
This is what gets people worked up.
Have you seen anybody on the right?
Everybody's very upset.
steve bannon
Everybody's very concerned.
unidentified
The vigils have been peaceful.
They're getting ready for Charlie's funeral service or celebration on life and the religious service around it for Sunday.
We'll make more announcements tomorrow, but Real America's Voice, we're going to be there wall to wall for like, I don't know, hours and hours.
We'll cover everything live.
Plus, we'll have a pregame.
We'll have a post wrap-up to make sure you get, you understand everything.
As Charlie Kirk, this is the first state funeral of the MAGA movement.
Charlie Kirks.
And now we have a scalp in Jimmy Kimmel.
And there are going to be many, many, many more scalps.
So they can whine and they can cry and they get in the fetal position.
As I said, Sergeant Boone Cutler, an American hero and patriot, passed away, partner of Mike Flynn, his co-author of many books, passed away early this morning.
I believe they said it was a heart attack on Sergeant Boone Cutler, paratrooper, American patriot and American hero.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
steve bannon
Of course, not just big tech and the fighting of artificial intelligence, but guess what?
Big pharma and them vaccines they're trying to put in your kids and the babies and you and everybody.
unidentified
I think they got to kind of explain this so people understand.
Okay, I understand.
Just like we need to actually understand like all the jumbo the different videos and the text, you know, the guy writing like Shakespeare, I can tell you, having a great production team that is unbelievable from Denver to Palm Beach to D.C. to the war room, at the war room, and on the road, these young guys, ages, I don't know, 21 to 29, maybe 30, they're not, they don't text, they text like they talk, and they don't talk, they don't talk in complete sentence, they don't talk in paragraphs,
they don't talk in the king's English, right?
So what they showed us yesterday is an insult to your intelligence.
steve bannon
Insult.
unidentified
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This was being treated as a single murder.
steve bannon
It's not a single murder.
unidentified
This is not a single murder of a great man.
There's a vast conspiracy in back of this.
And Tifa needs to be designated as a domestic terrorist organization.
Hey, if you want to make it an international terrorist, there's plenty of evidence of that.
In fact, he came out of Europe.
You designate him a terrorist organization, then all kinds of good things happen.
You start subpoenaing telephone records, text messages.
You go to the telephone companies like the one on us and took all our stuff.
Fine, do it.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
See the interconnection.
steve bannon
See who's financing them.
unidentified
See who's contacting them.
See what politicians are working with them.
See what media types are working with them.
And then we ought to round up the media types are working with them as accessories.
This is doable.
And if you want to avoid a civil war, it needs to be done today.
Use the powers of the state.
We happen to be in charge.
I think the executive order, President Trump said he's going to do it.
I think the executive order will be ready as soon as President Trump gets back from.
He's getting back tonight, in fact, Mayland, I don't know, even during the show.
I think they can get it done.
I think they get a really good team working on it and they're making progress.
And this is the way you get to the bottom of it.
This is one of the reasons they're sweating.
These NGOs, these not-for-profits, these people that have been financing this stuff for years, financing the color revolution.
You're going to see deep state associations.
You're going to see people in the government.
You're going to see people in the media.
You're going to see people at financial institutions.
You're going to see people the most prestigious, the most prestigious of the NGOs.
But you have to take action.
Action, action, action.
They take direct action, which is terrorist activity.
That is assassinating people like Luigi Mangioni or whoever, the conspiracy in back of assassinating Charlie Kirk.
They do terrorist activities.
They do kidnappings, bombings, all of it.
Right?
All of it.
And it's got to be stopped.
It must be stopped.
We have the full power to stop it.
You don't see MAGA in the streets.
You don't see MAGA burning down buildings.
You don't see MAGA surrounding buildings and keeping ICE officers around doing their duty to do mass deportations right now.
They're stopping them from even doing the criminals and the bad ombre.
So this has to be done.
The sooner we set up the apparatus to do it, the better.
Hopefully that'll be shortly and putting teams together to do it.
And then you're going to start to get to the bottom of it.
Still going to take human action.
Still going to take a lot of effort to grind through it, but we'll get it done.
Remember, it's all about, this is not about unity.
There's nothing unified with.
Are you going to give a group hug to that crowd?
Stephen L. Miller, not the miller at the White House, says he's got a great tweet up.
I think we're about to post it, and I'll get it to Denver and make sure it's up in a little while.
He says, finally, he says the media's got something they're really upset about.
steve bannon
That's Jimmy Kimmel's firing, not Charlie Kirk's murder and assassination.
unidentified
Just remember that.
See how they're whining?
steve bannon
They're whining on Kimball because Kimmel because they understand we're coming for them.
unidentified
They're not a free media.
It's been a propaganda arm.
How many can, not just conservatives, how many MAGA people have really been up there that maybe were on a pan or CNRS and didn't get tortured, right?
How many real MAGA?
steve bannon
Is your voice you see in the mainstream media?
No, it is not.
unidentified
That's because they think that they are protected.
They're not protected.
We're starting.
And by the way, like I said, the strategist is a maximalist strategist.
steve bannon
Let's go all the way to the logical conclusion.
unidentified
Let's have a sense of urgency and let's seize the institutions.
You know what's really getting them right now?
They understand with what President Trump's doing and every day how we're burying in deeper is that they're not going to be able to reverse it.
steve bannon
There's no going back, right?
unidentified
There's no going back.
steve bannon
One reason no going back, we did, like Cortez, we burned the boats on the beach, and we're just marching inland to victory.
unidentified
Okay, we got a cold open, a huge day about these vaccines.
steve bannon
Let's go ahead and play it.
unidentified
I think it's Senator Paul from yesterday.
Then we'll bring in Dr. Meryl Nass has been at this hearing all day.
Go ahead.
When they approved it, they had this discussion at the vaccine committee that we've been talking about.
rand paul
During the discussion, they acknowledged that there was no proof of reduction in hospitalization or in death.
unidentified
So what they did is they said, what can we use to try to make people take this vaccine?
They came up with this.
They said that if we give you a COVID vaccine, you make antibodies.
So really, the whole recommendation for having a COVID vaccine from six months up is not based on hospitalization data, not based on deaths.
It's based on whether you make antibodies or not.
And what people fail to see from this is I can inject you with a foreign protein every week and measure your antibodies.
You'll make antibodies every time.
It just means immunology work has nothing to do with whether you should get a vaccine every week.
So when we're discussing the science here, we have to discuss what is the science in favor of giving a vaccine to a six-month-old and what are the benefits from that.
And there is no benefit of hospitalization or death.
And then what would the risks of the vaccine be?
rand paul
We have large population studies of the risks of the vaccine in younger people.
unidentified
And it turns out that you don't see this as much if you look at the general population.
But once you start isolating in by age group, which you have to do in COVID because there's such a disparity among age group, you find that there is a risk of myocarditis, a significant event.
It's somewhere between six and eight and 10,000, but that's much greater than the risk of hospitalization or death, which are not even measurable because they're so small.
So you resisted firing people who have this idea that the COVID vaccine should be at six months.
rand paul
That's what this is about.
unidentified
You didn't resist firing the beautiful, the perfect beautiful scientists that are career people and unobjective and unbiased.
You wouldn't fire the people who are saying that we have to vaccinate our kids at six months of age.
That's who you refused to fire.
So Dr. Meryl Nass joins us, ma'am.
I think you've been live tweeting this all day following it.
What went on today?
I think it was in CDC headquarters.
What went on today?
What was the purpose of it?
And kind of where do we stand?
What's been the outcome so far?
Sure.
So this was an ACIP meeting.
This is the advisory committee to the CDC that is supposed to advise the director on how vaccines that are licensed should be used.
dr meryl nass
What populations should get them?
unidentified
How often?
For what reasons?
Now, since Mr. Kennedy became secretary, there has been a hullabaloo because people are saying he's going to take away our vaccines.
And of course he's not.
They're licensed.
They're not going to become unlicensed unless there's data that they're dangerous and they don't make sense.
Well, he had nothing to do with today, actually.
dr meryl nass
There were new members of this committee.
unidentified
And today they only looked at two vaccines, the MMRV, which is the best.
Hang on.
He did have something to do with it.
Didn't he remove the entire 17-person board and put in new people?
And I think Dr. Malone's the chair.
Well, that's, wouldn't you say, I think that slightly did have something to do with it.
It's not like, hey, these guys just met.
Hang on, one of the controversies, one of the controversies is that Pharma and the team wearing the patches for Pfizer are saying that he removed this board unprecedented and he put a group of wing nuts on it.
And this was the first of the meetings today, right?
So what is your defense of actually ACIP being reformulated?
Okay, so this is the second ASIP meeting since Mr. Kennedy changed the makeup of the committee.
And today there were five new people added to the seven people who were at the earlier meeting.
They behaved very much like the old members of the ACIP committee, which is they asked some questions, they listened to briefings, they discussed among themselves.
And really, Dr. Levy is Retzaf Levy, who is an Israeli, asked the most pertinent questions and challenged what was being presented.
But the other members didn't really do much challenging.
And the questions they're being asked to vote on today only had to do with changing a vaccine schedule to something a little bit safer in very young children.
So two vaccines were looked at, the measles, mumps, rubella, which you can get separately, or you can get it with a varicella in the same dose, in the same shot.
And it turns out, if you take a 12-month-old baby and use the combined shot with the four antigens, you're approximately twice as likely to induce a seizure in that baby.
And for that reason, 85% of doctors and parents have been using the separate vaccines, but 15% have used the combined vaccines, which causes more seizures.
dr meryl nass
So approximately one extra seizure per 3,000 vaccinations.
unidentified
And since we don't really know if that seizure is going to result in some severe harm down the road, it makes sense to avoid it.
So they are going to vote very shortly or right now on whether to not offer the combined vaccine at 12 months.
By the time a child is four or five years old, they can get the combined vaccine and they apparently do not have an increased risk of seizures at that point.
Hang on, hang on.
We're going to go to commercial break.
Okay.
They're in full meltdown at MOSMBC and CNN.
steve bannon
It's like you're saying it's very matter of fact.
unidentified
These are monumental because it's never been questioned before, right?
And removing something like this for that crowd is like we're moving a holy day of obligation, right?
This is a mindset.
You're not just taking on a $1.5 trillion industry.
You're actually bringing up, well, one of the reasons maybe we don't do that is because they've had seizures.
steve bannon
Of course, the facts are out there.
unidentified
They've had seizures for a long time and just nobody did it, right?
This is monumental.
And I want to make sure that we are very frank and upfront about how monumental this is and how they're just not going to sit there and go, hey, Malone and his buddies and Bobby Kennedy, you know, they convened this thing and they just decided just to retorque a little bit of the thing because they're thinking if we can retorque anything, we can retorque everything.
And they will fight to the death because did I mention it's a $1.5 trillion industry.
steve bannon
Let's take a short commercial break.
Philip Patrick is with us, Dr. Meryl Nass on a Thursday in September.
unidentified
All in.
Back in a moment.
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steve bannon
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unidentified
So Dr. Meryl Nass, look, what's happening is monumental, and they're going to fight it every step of the way.
Don't think they're just going to accept what happens today.
steve bannon
You've been observing this for decades.
In that process of your observing it, how big a day is this for us?
unidentified
Well, this is the turnaround day, right?
dr meryl nass
This is the first time we don't just keep adding, adding, adding vaccines to the schedule because the people on the ACIT before were primarily vaccine developers.
unidentified
And so their income depended on vaccinating.
And this group is not necessarily like that.
So we're making baby steps.
They also considered the hepatitis B vaccine, which is given at the day of birth to most babies in the United States because only one half of 1% actually need it.
And because we're not 100% sure who those babies are, we give it to all of them.
And because it makes, you know, it's worth over a billion dollars to industry to do that.
So what the members of the committee are being asked is, can we delay it until one month from the first day of life?
And to me, that's a very minimal improvement because 99% of these babies don't need it.
But for the CDC and the vaccine pushers, it's huge because it's a turnaround.
They're going backwards.
And so we're going to have to see how the media plays this.
dr meryl nass
These two particular vaccine issues that were brought up today were both very clear-cut.
unidentified
And yet, and if the other side argues about these two, they'll argue about anything, you know, tremendously.
Tomorrow is the day they talk about the COVID vaccine in babies.
And that will be very interesting.
And we'd love to have you back on.
We're honored to have you here.
steve bannon
Dr. Nass, let me just give you, I'll give you a pre-see of how they're saying the barbarians are inside the gates, okay?
unidentified
They're not taking this well.
You've stopped in slightly like 30 days.
They understand if you turn around an inch or a day or an hour, you've opened the possibilities you can turn around.
And that's why they're going to fight this one tooth and nail.
But heroes like yourselves and Bobby Kennedy and others, people over Children's Health Defense, we're just honored to have you guys.
And so great that you're following this so closely.
What's your social media, ma'am?
steve bannon
We'll have you back on tomorrow after the explosive, the explosive hearing or I guess presentation on babies and COVID vaccine.
unidentified
Where do people get you, ma'am?
Yeah, MerylNass.substock.com.
Thanks.
Thank you, ma'am.
Appreciate you.
Philip Patrick, gold is on fire.
It blows through 3,700.
You get a 25 basis point cut, a little profit taking.
Talk to people, particularly a lot of people, and I need your logic on this because it looks like two more cuts are coming.
You know, people are saying another 50 basis points probably by the end of the year.
Why is this important?
How does it relate to gold?
The central banks are still buying at record rates.
A lot of people come to me and go, hey, we love what you do with Philip Patrick.
We love what you're teaching us.
But, you know, I listened to you guys years ago when gold was at 1,100 and I didn't make a move and now it's at 37.
And did I miss it?
Should I just sit on the sideline?
I'm not here to sell people to buy gold.
But when those people have the natural inclination that is this thing at a peak and what's going on, what is your, what is, how does, how does Birch Gold walk folks through this?
Yeah, look, look, I think there's a lot of scope for movement in metals.
We've been, you know, we didn't think it would break through 2,000, 3,000.
Now we're approaching 4,000.
Look, we have to understand, first of all, what's driving gold in this climate, and it is the strongest fundamental of all, which is literally all-time high demand.
And it's coming from central banks.
The other side, the other thing to consider is the currency aspect, right?
People have to understand gold's price really doesn't have a ceiling because currency's value doesn't have a floor.
Gold is a reflection of the value of currency.
phillip patrick
A very extreme example of that, World War I, Germany, an ounce of gold was 142 Reichmarks.
unidentified
They undertook quantitative easing.
Obviously, they had to rebuild Europe after the Treaty of Versailles.
phillip patrick
Hyperinflation took a grip.
unidentified
The Weimar Republic, an ounce of gold 10 years later, was 87 trillion German marks.
Now, obviously, that is a very extreme example, but the premise should be clear.
phillip patrick
What we're seeing now is a global push away from the US dollar, a push towards gold.
unidentified
And of course, that supporting its price movement.
Even investment banks, which tend to be conservative when it comes to gold, are frantically upping their predictions.
Goldman Sachs say 5,000, 4,000 by the end of this year, 5,000 next year.
phillip patrick
So a lot of scope for movement.
unidentified
Don't say you've missed the boat in another year from now, because I think the trajectory will be continuously to the upside.
One of the big takeaways from the United Kingdom today, I don't think was so much the deal as President Trump's discussion about Russia.
Now, Starmer and these guys have no money, no arms, no troops.
But President Trump really spent a lot of time talking about basically economic warfare and economic sanctions.
He couldn't have been clearer that Putin has really disappointed him in these peace negotiations.
He mentioned secondary sanctions on oil.
He said he's not going to make any big moves to really defend anybody until everybody stops buying Russian oil.
But he talked about secondary sanctions on Chinese, on the Chinese oil and big-time economic sanctions on Russia.
steve bannon
Now, we know that Russia has had a part in the BRICS movement on de-dollarization.
unidentified
They haven't taken a lead like some of the other nations.
But I think after that, what are your thoughts?
I think Russia is going to figure out: hey, if we're going to be engaged in economic warfare now, we've got to get on the boat of de-dollarization.
Oh, yeah.
Listen, Russia were firmly on that boat, quietly on the boat, but firmly on the boat.
98% of their bilateral trade agreements now bypass the US dollar.
And you can understand why, right?
Biden weaponized our dollar against Russia in 2022, and they learned their lesson.
phillip patrick
It was also a warning shot for other nations, right?
unidentified
Xi, we know, has one eye on Taiwan, right?
That appears to be in his mind as his legacy.
Today, China have about $3.5 trillion in seizable assets.
How much do they want exposed when they send ships ultimately to the South China Sea?
phillip patrick
So I don't think that push is going to stop when it comes to de-dollarization.
unidentified
By the way, I think Trump's doing the right thing as well by sort of forcing countries not to buy Russian oil.
We need to starve the Russian war machine.
phillip patrick
So it's a very complex situation.
unidentified
But ultimately, I think the train left the station in 22.
phillip patrick
You can see it with central bank gold buying.
unidentified
And I don't see anything on the horizon that's going to slow it down.
That's what I want to ask you.
The central banks, now that they see, because a lot of them have been back of like Brazil, what happened in Rio, the side pocket bilateral deals where you get around the dollar.
But as they see a world that, and we got to be blunt about this, we're slipping closer into, we're already in the kinetic part of it, but I think we're slipping day by day into a broader third world war, right?
Because President Trump's tried his best in Gaza.
He's tried his best in Ukraine.
He even said today the frustration of President Trump was pretty extraordinary last night at the state dinner.
And then today, it's not like President Trump to admit, right, that, hey, this is a tough one.
I thought it was going to be easier, but it's tough and it may be tougher.
Is economic warfare increases?
steve bannon
Will the other central banks continue to buy gold or recorates?
unidentified
I mean, what are the options here in a world of increasing currency war, trade war, and economic warfare?
It's the most powerful weapon these guys have.
phillip patrick
We've got a $37 trillion debt pile.
All these guys have to do is sell U.S. debt, borrowing rates skyrocket, and it squeezes us.
It is massively problematic.
unidentified
By the way, I also agree with you.
We're heading towards a third world war.
I saw a really interesting opinion piece in the Financial Times, and it was talking about how world leaders are aging, Putin, Xi, Erdogan, Netanyahu.
And the premise or the idea was, listen, these guys are moving for their legacy.
Look at Putin with Ukraine.
Look at Xi sort of posturing with Taiwan.
I think these guys are going for the big moves now.
Things are heating up.
Economic warfare will certainly be part of that.
And our biggest Achilles hill, like I said, $37 trillion of debt.
It is a bad position to be heading in with.
Just a heads up, the Democrats have given their position on the CR.
steve bannon
Folks, I think right now, as we get close into the evening of the 18th of September in Washington, D.C., the Imperial Capital, I think this government may be shut down.
unidentified
I don't think you're going to get a clean CR.
steve bannon
I think this is going to really get to be a Donnybrook because I don't see any Democrats really getting on board of this.
unidentified
Philip, how do people now go and work?
You can text Bannon at 989898.
steve bannon
You can get the ultimate guide for investing in gold and precious metals.
unidentified
You get the end of the dollar empire.
steve bannon
You and I are working on chapters eight and nine coming out of part of that coming out of your experience.
unidentified
The amazing reporting and analysis you did from Rio, really the first guy to really talk about the side pocket bilateral trade deals that are not going to be done in dollars.
People on Get the End of the Dollar Empire, birchgold.com, Bannon to understand all of this.
But now when they make contact with you, particularly with gold at around $3,700, tell me, how do they work with you?
What's the best and easiest way?
steve bannon
Because people more than ever want knowledge.
unidentified
They want information.
They want to understand this.
It's not about the daily price of gold to them.
steve bannon
They want to understand the process that drives the value of gold as a hedge against times of financial turbulence.
unidentified
Look, that's what's the most important thing for us at Birch.
We feel like people make right decisions with knowledge, right?
phillip patrick
And that's why, you know, we've been fortunate to work with you, put together the end of the dollar empire, start with the information and then just call us.
unidentified
You're going to get access to myself if I'm not on the phone or many people as smart or smarter than me that will be there to guide them through step by step, answer questions, create clarity, explain what's going on.
We're here to provide information.
We leave it down to our customers to make the decisions, but we're here to give all the information.
Birchgold.com forward slash Bannon.
Give us a call from there.
We're not here to sell you fish.
We're here to teach you how to fish.
And I think it's been very productive.
steve bannon
The feedback's been incredible.
Philip Patrick, thank you so much for joining us today.
unidentified
Thank you, Steve.
The Fed finally gets a rate cut.
I'll get Philip back on next week to talk about the more.
steve bannon
We've had to skip Philip a few times because of the always been nice enough to defer coming on here, given the Charlie Kirk situation.
unidentified
And other activities as no, we're very involved with you on everything related to debt, deficits, the budget, spending, all of that.
You know, the idea of President Trump wants to have a clean CR get to November, they'll figure it out by then.
It puts a huge burden on what's going to happen in November, right?
A huge burden of what's going to happen in November.
But I'm not so sure that's actually going to take.
I think the Democrats' lesson that they're taking away from their base and seeing what Newsom's doing is just fight Trump at every step of the way.
There's no cooperation.
There's nothing.
steve bannon
So I think right now, unless you can figure out some way to get around the Senate, I think we're heading toward a government shutdown.
unidentified
I think.
And if you're going to have a government shutdown, hey, let's give them a government shutdown.
You have a central personnel, non-essential?
steve bannon
I don't know.
unidentified
Do you need that when you have 37 trillion of debt and you have $2 trillion deficits?
steve bannon
Do you really need the non-essential?
Aren't we really down to the essential?
unidentified
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to be back talking about Sergeant Boone Cutler.
steve bannon
Mo has finally arrived at her location.
unidentified
He's going to join us.
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The biggest thing I'm worried about is China's presence in the United States, and not just politically, because China does have a presence in the United States politically, but also their physical presence.
I mean, everything that just happened in Russia with these drones, people have got to start looking very hard about this land that's owned by the CCP around our military installations.
They could launch that same type of attack right here, not to mention all those container ships that are floating in the Gulf of America.
boone cutler
Every one of those container ships could be launching the same type of thing.
unidentified
Now, I like the idea of the golden dome, but these things that I'm talking about would be working underneath the golden dome because they quite possibly might already be here.
You know, we're looking at situations in nuclear in Russia.
We're looking through the situations that are nuclear with Iran.
We're looking at the expansion of the CCP going into Taiwan.
In order to do that, they need to neutralize our deterrent threat with nukes.
I think that this game is getting escalated very, very quickly with the drones, with the AI, with the cyber.
I think everything is escalating very, very quickly.
And I'm not exactly sure how things are going to calm down.
And I'll put this out there.
I do believe in my heart of hearts, if Putin thinks he's going to lose and he's going to die, I think he's going to start hitting other countries inside of NATO, not just Ukraine.
And then we're going to have an escalation yet again, which was precipitated by what just happened with Ukraine inside of Russia.
These things are not going to go away quickly or easily.
I don't think anybody's trying to buy a better position for some sort of peace settlement.
I think they want all-out war, and I think they're going for a full-blown, full-blown third world war that's going to involve just about everybody that's on the China team and everybody that's on the U.S. team.
And I think it's going to be ugly.
And I think we need to definitely reinforce what we've got going on in our own country as far as our strategic security.
Turn around, buddy.
Of course, I got to say: as hard as budget, it's what to do when you don't know what to do.
When you're in that funky space in your mind this late at night, or wherever you are, and you start thinking to yourself the world would be a better place without you, that is the guilt monster.
The guilt counselor is alive.
When that happens, there's somebody else out there who's already agreed to be there in that time and space, but you get that.
So you are never alone.
You will maybe get suffered, but you will not suffer alone.
The Spartan Pledge is our battle.
After today, the way you certified is to take the pledge of one more person.
You've got to get it off.
Okay?
Put your left hand right there.
Repeat after me.
I will not take my own life by my own hand.
I will not take my life by my own hand.
Until I talk to my battle buddy first.
Until I talk to my battle buddy first.
My mission.
My mission.
It's to find the mission.
It's to find the mission.
To help my warfighter family.
To help my warfighter family.
Give her a round of applause.
Well, we lost a great one today.
Sergeant Boone Cutler, the co-author of General Flynn of 5GW, Fifth Generation Warfare.
steve bannon
You can see from the clips we had of his appearances on the show.
unidentified
This guy was flat-out smart, got it, but he's also a warrior in his own personal life.
What is Spartan Sword?
That ceremony you just went through.
steve bannon
What was it, ma'am?
unidentified
So the Spartan sword was created from Steel Recovered from the World Trade Center in 9-11.
And the gentleman, when the camera goes to the crowd, those are actually FDNY firefighters from 9-11.
And I met them all at the Gary Sinise Foundation event in Nashville back in 2022.
But the Spartan pledge using the Spartan sword is: I will not take my own life by my own hand until I talk to my battle buddy first.
My mission is to find a mission to help my warfighter family.
So Boone created that.
Boone was actually, he was a paratrooper in the 82nd Airborne and then got out.
He did his initial tour, got out, and then saw what happened on 9-11 and requested to be reactivated to go back in.
And he went into a psyops unit.
And then he was in that first wave in Iraq and he suffered injury and was sent to Walter Reed.
He had a TBI.
maureen bannon
So his main mission since being at Walter Reed and then recovering was to help the warfighter family.
unidentified
And he wanted to help his battle buddies in order to lower the veteran suicide numbers.
maureen bannon
That was one of his many missions.
unidentified
And he did an amazing job at that.
He saved numerous veterans' lives.
And he will truly be missed.
Amazing, amazing guy.
General Froben try to get some people on tomorrow to have more remembrance.
steve bannon
I mean, losing Charlie Kirk just over a week ago and then losing a warrior like Boone Cutler.
unidentified
The best of the best.
Do we have anything?
I want to put up, go to Amazon and get the book, 5GW, Fifth Generation Warfare.
I think he and General Flynn have a new book coming, Under Restricted Warfare.
He was quite a thinker.
Anywhere else we know to give a contribution or anything, Mo?
Have we gotten any information yet?
Not yet.
maureen bannon
I'm working on that.
But if you want to find out more about the Spartan sword and the Spartan Pledge, you can go to spartansword.org.
unidentified
And once I find out if there is a way to help the family, I will post that on our social medias and mine as well.
And we'll talk about tomorrow.
Mo, what is your social media now?
steve bannon
What are your coordinates?
unidentified
You can find me on Twitter and getter at Maureen underscore Bannon and also on Instagram at RealMaureen Bannon.
And I will, if you're in the Houston area, I am speaking at the Texas Youth Summit.
I'm talking to the Texas youth here on Saturday.
can still go to texasyouthsummit.com slash events and get your tickets.
We're talking about how to get the youth out to vote and honoring Charlie Kirk as well because Turning Point is a sponsor of this event and Charlie would want us to continue the fight.
Perfect.
Mo Bennett, thank you so much.
Thank you.
We're going to be making some announcements tomorrow about our coverage of the MAGA State funeral, celebration of life religious service, all of it on Sunday.
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Thank you.
unidentified
We'll see you tomorrow morning.
Stick around.
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