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Episode 4790: Victory In Texas Against Transgender Ideology; McCarthy Was Right
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unidentified
all jimmy kimmel i still have a show though right Okay, yesterday, after threats from Trump's FCC chair, ABC yanked Kimmel off the air indefinitely.
That is blatant censorship, and it always starts small.
You know, remember like in week one of his presidency, Gulf of America.
Call it Gulf of America.
Sure, seems harmless, but with an autocrat, you cannot give an inch.
And if ABC thinks If ABC thinks this is going to satisfy the regime, they are woefully naive.
And clearly, they've never read the children's book, If You Give a Mouse a Kimmel.
And to Jimmy, and to Jimmy, just let me say, I stand with you and your staff 100%.
And also, you couldn't let me enjoy this for like one week.
Just come on.
Free speech is baked into American identity, possibly more than anything else I can think of.
And it's not.
So everybody understands that freedom of speech is part of who we are.
jess mcintosh
It's the way we do the things that we do.
unidentified
Most everybody believes in it very, very strongly.
jess mcintosh
That's why you're seeing the guys on the right coming out against this.
unidentified
I think Trump has a problem in that he continually goes after the things that people were motivated to support him in the first place.
You know, the same guys that were criticizing him yesterday on the free speech crackdown and the censorship were the same people who were criticizing him on the Epstein files just a couple weeks ago.
jess mcintosh
Now, all of those voices got tamped down very quickly on the right after a couple of days of people speaking out.
I assume that that is what will happen here.
But there's only so many times that you can keep attacking the very principles that people supported you for before they're going to start noticing that you don't have any principles.
unidentified
And you don't think so.
I mean, not for the diehards.
stephen colbert
I don't know.
unidentified
I mean, that seems like an optimistic take on reality, but I don't know.
I mean, I think mostly people like to smash their enemies more than they care about the principle of free speech.
stephen colbert
Like, I think that's all the last 10 years.
unidentified
And we have the president suggesting he's going to declare Antifa, whatever that really is, as a terrorist group, something he actually can't do if it's in the United States.
Take this all together here.
jonathan lemire
This seems like it is a systemic, a planned crackdown and one that seems to be very, very dangerous.
unidentified
Right.
frank foer
In our political vernacular, there's a term that gets bandied about to describe repression, which is McCarthyism.
And I think it's worth comparing the repression that happened in the late 1940s and the 1950s to what's happening now.
unidentified
In the 1950s, over the course of a decade, 10,000 people lost their jobs.
Here, in the course of a week, it seems as if, according to reporting, more than a thousand people lost their jobs.
frank foer
It took years for the McCarthyites to bring Hollywood to heel.
Here, it seems like it happened in an absolute flash.
unidentified
And it's because the state is at the center of the repression, not some drunken senator on a rage, on a rampage, and some other up-and-coming ambitious politicians exploiting an issue.
And if, you know, I think about Project 2025 and how that provided a roadmap to remaking the kind of the mechanics, the plumbing of the federal government in order to achieve all sorts of long-standing conservative goals, but also to engage in a form of culture war.
And when we look at what's happened, not just to the entertainment industry, not just the threats that have been and actual punishments that's been inflicted on media.
You look at what's happened to the university and the fact that the president of Texas AM was just fired this week over a controversy where a professor was fired.
frank foer
You look at the fact that there is a federal monitor now installed at Columbia University and that there are all these other threats being wielded against other institutions.
unidentified
And you add that to the way in which the state as this font of knowledge has been reshaped in order to present only good news that the leader likes.
And you take that together as an aggregate impression of where we're at in merely the first couple months of this administration.
And you think about the years ahead of us and you compare that to what happened during the McCarthy era, you'd say we've survived a decade of McCarthyism in a very, very short period of time.
And there's a lot of runway left.
I mean, there was something in Semaphore today where I talked about the origin story of one person in the Trump White House being that he was kicked off the Gawker comments.
brandy zadrozny
Yes, by him.
unidentified
And Gawker, you know, it just was like it was a really big part of it.
brandy zadrozny
One of the biggest brains for the far right right now, his name's Mike Benz, and his whole thing started because he was kicked off of YouTube in 2018, 2019 for being a far right sort of agitator, racist vlogger.
unidentified
And so this is the origin story of so many of these people.
And so I don't think that we can, I think we have to absolutely talk about it is retribution for them.
It is not the idea of like, well, be careful what happens when they're no, it's not hypocrisy, it's retribution.
brandy zadrozny
Exactly.
And they remember what they think happened to them when the other people were in power.
unidentified
And now they're getting their just desserts and it's tasty.
That's something that should be talked about for licensing too.
When you have a network and you have evening shows and all they do is hit Trump.
That's all they do.
If you go back, I guess they haven't had a conservative one in years or something, somebody said.
But when you go back and you take a look, all they do is hit Trump.
Hit license.
They're not allowed to do that.
They're an arm of the Democrat Party.
Thanks, everybody.
It's one of the most outrageous affronts on this.
tim walz
This is North Korea-style stuff.
unidentified
And it's being done because this is a weak, thin-skinned man who's failing as a president.
All of the things he promised are not happening.
And this is exactly what dictators do.
It's our most cherished freedom to point out very clearly: this is a terrible president and a terrible human being who is doing nothing to improve the lives of Minnesotans and who continues to have this double standard.
What we're seeing from this administration is a frontal assault, unapologetic, on one of the most cherished freedoms we have, the one that we celebrate arguably the most, the freedom to speak out and criticize the very government we elect to represent us without fear of being crushed or bullied or threatened.
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people.
Here's not got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
steve bannon
It's going to happen.
unidentified
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
MAGA Media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
Waru, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
It's Friday, 19 September in the year of our Lord 2025.
Do you remember their big crocodile tears, the big crocodile tears and their love of the First Amendment when they were banning President Trump and all of his acolytes, all the leaders of the MAGA movement, and many of you in the MAGA movement, they didn't like what they saw?
Did you remember their crocodile tears?
Well, no, you don't because they didn't shut them.
Ben Smith said it, hey, we have the power and we're going to do it.
You guys have no, and it's not open for debate.
I don't want to be, oh, free speech.
They're in full, total mouthdown about Jimmy Kimball, one of the biggest scumbags around, who tried to smear, who did smear, right, this movement in the memory of Charlie Kirk with what he said on the show because he thought he could get away with it.
Well, now he's gone.
Okay, and there's going to be a lot more gone.
That's what they're worried about.
steve bannon
They're worried about their jobs.
unidentified
And this crew at CBS, Ellison and this crowd that just bought it, I don't know why Stephen Colbert, he loses 40 million bucks a year.
steve bannon
That show cost $100 million a year to produce.
unidentified
Hello.
steve bannon
$100 million a year to produce.
unidentified
It's incredible.
I think they bring in $60 million in revenue.
And yes, we're going to start talking to these sponsors next week because this thing's got to be shut down.
Ellison right now should pull the plug.
They should be sued immediately by the Justice Department and not just talk about, oh, it's a front for the Democratic organization.
We have that.
It's a contribution in kind, an in-kind contribution.
If you look at Colbert and you figure, hey, on average, let's say he lost $40 million for the last 10 years.
I'm just taking what the current number is.
It may be less.
But just, this is rough math.
steve bannon
That's a $400 million, $400 million donation to the Democratic Party because he never has conservatives on.
unidentified
Oh, if he has it, Republicans has Liz Cheney.
They beat down President Trump and the MAGA movement every day.
Well, hey, guess what?
We're in charge now.
And this is my whole point about a maximalist strategy, seize the institutions and have a sense of urgency.
It has to be done today, not tomorrow, today, today, today.
Action, action, action.
And finally, they got Kimmel off the air, right?
We got Colbert eventually fired, but he should be removed immediately by CBS's manager.
steve bannon
Don't worry about managing TikTok today.
unidentified
Worry about getting rid of Colbert.
Just tell him, he said, hey, look, we'll pay your contract out.
You're going to lose a lot less than $40 million.
Pay his contract down and shut it all down.
steve bannon
And I love the fact that the folks around him that have been perpetrating this evil, the staff and the rightists, all that, I have no remorse whatsoever.
unidentified
Those guys losing their job.
And as you know, populist nationalists, we hate it when folks lose their jobs.
But they have basically supported evil, evil, for years.
So payback is out.
Call it what you want.
Retribution, revenge, we just call it common sense.
The days of you guys being in charge are over.
And we're taking every step to make sure that you can't reverse it.
steve bannon
This is the key thing.
This is why you have to move with alacrity.
We have to have maximalist position.
unidentified
We have to a sense of urgency and seize the institutions and make it so they can never reverse it.
So even if they're to steal elections in the future, which is the only way they get in office, like in 2020, if they're able to steal elections, that they can't reverse what President Trump is doing.
steve bannon
Okay.
unidentified
Huge events happening overnight.
A big scalp down in Texas by Brian Harrison.
steve bannon
Let's play.
We got a short clip.
unidentified
I'm going to bring in Brother Harrison.
steve bannon
Let's play it.
unidentified
Video circulating online showed a student objecting to a professor's teachings.
mika brzezinski
That professor was soon fired amid pressure from Republican lawmakers, including the state's governor.
unidentified
Still, the university's president, Mark Welsh, continued to face backlash for his handling of the issue.
Welsh is now expected to step down today.
Brian Harrison, once again, you got us five seats.
You, sir, and the group that you work with, these great MAGA grassroots of Texas that are saving Texas and therefore saving the Republic.
You went to work on this.
You didn't want a professor.
You know, Abbott's a tough guy.
steve bannon
He's getting these students.
unidentified
Yeah, the students ought to go, but he's like making a big deal of Texas Tech, these other places.
steve bannon
I got this student, got this student.
He is gutless like he's always been.
unidentified
It was Brian Harrison.
And to back that up, the Daily Mail put you up as the lead story last night, sir, overnight of taking down the president of Texas AM.
steve bannon
Tell us how you did it.
unidentified
Well, by joining arms with millions of grassroots patriots across Texas and with across America, including the posse.
brian harrison
I mean, look, there was nobody.
unidentified
When I called for President Welsh to be fired nine months ago, and for the entirety of this year, do you know exactly how many elected Republicans were willing to help call for the leftist former Barack Obama official to be fired from his position at Texas AM University up until about two days ago?
Zero.
brian harrison
I was totally and completely alone in the Texas government standing up and saying, no, I'm sick and tired of leftist progressives running some of our most cherished institutions, including my alma mater, Texas AM.
unidentified
I love Texas AM.
brian harrison
I want it restored to its pre-woke glory.
unidentified
But if it weren't for the people locking arms with me with social media and regular media, and by the way, everybody in Austin told me they were this critics were screaming, oh, you got to follow the proper channels.
brian harrison
You can't just go air all this in the media.
unidentified
You need to go have some closed door meetings.
brian harrison
You know what?
unidentified
Let me say something.
If I had conducted business as usual, the way these weak-kneed liberal rhino hack establishment, uniparty folks who have been controlling the Texas government for decades, far too long, if I had conducted myself and handled this problem the way they wanted me to, Mark Welsh would be president of Texas AM today.
brian harrison
That leftist progressor, transgender indoctrinator, she would still be indoctrinating students at Texas AM.
But you're right, I'm tired of calling for the little victories.
unidentified
You know, Greg Abbott finally came in after I raised so much hell about this and said, fire the professor.
I'm sorry.
brian harrison
We're indoctrinating kids all across the Texas AM University system.
What you're going to pin this on one professor and call it a day?
unidentified
Give me a break.
Here's the thing that I was most shocked to learn, Steve, after serving as a senior member of President Trump's first administration and helping to get rid of DEI at the federal level.
When I got elected down here in Texas, nothing could have prepared me for the shock to learn that, number one, Democrats run the show in Austin.
A bunch of them, by the way, that self-identify as Republicans.
But number two, the Texas government might well be the biggest funder of DEI and this woke leftist transgender indoctrination in America.
And it's time for that to stop.
And I think we're making a big progress yesterday.
Hang on.
I want to get into the details of that.
steve bannon
But as goes Texas, so goes the nation.
unidentified
As goes the nation, so goes the world.
This is why we have to have a MAGA revolution, a real revolution down in Texas, and get rid of these gutless wimps that are in charge.
you're going to find out what they're doing with this dangerous, radical ideology in the great Lone Star State next in the war room.
I got American fame on my mind.
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Okay, Brian Harrison.
steve bannon
So the Ken Klippenstein has two pieces he put up on Substack.
unidentified
One is from April where he defines what nihilistic, violent extremist NVEs are.
And then he's got a massive scoop coming out of the FBI that they're designating these transgender groups, these militias and others as immediately as NVEs for detailed investigations.
Also, that will be part of, as you know, when the designation for Antifa and its affiliates. as a major terrorist organization.
Of course, everybody saw in the cold, well, domestic, you can't do domestic.
Yo, dude, write it down.
Major terrorist organization, right?
Antifa's from Europe.
Oh, there's just, you know, they're so, they're anarchists.
They're not combined.
That is the surface level.
That's the foot soldiers.
steve bannon
But it's very organized.
unidentified
We're going to get to the very organization, including media partners.
Yes, you're going to see Perp walked out eventually helping terrorist organization, their media partners, and also all these, a lot of these high-falutin NGOs.
Oh, yes.
But that's why we need to take action.
Enough screwing around.
And no more Comer investigation.
We're going to have in a minute.
Mark Mitchell's going to join us.
steve bannon
Comer's trying to start over again.
Mark Mitchell, we support him, but we've got to see some action.
unidentified
We're going to get to that in a minute, these cesspools that Comer's going to have before him.
So Brian Harrison, pull it back from the top.
You sent us the other day something from Texas State where they teach on the taxpayers of the great state of Texas and everything those folks in Texas have been through to create that great state.
They teach what transgender ideology resistance, the resistance movement that has led to things like the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Walk me through this.
How could this be so embedded in our greatest state in the union and MAGA's biggest state, sir?
The sad, shocking, and infuriating answer is because of these so-called Republicans that have been leading the Texas government for quite frankly far too long.
I mean, people ask me all the time, where does this indoctrination come from?
brian harrison
Where do these ideas get into these young people's head that lead them to do things like what we saw with the assassination with Charlie Kirk?
unidentified
Clearly now, an act of trans violence.
And the answer is as true as it is infuriating, and it should make everyone's blood boil.
I know it makes mine and yours, Steve.
brian harrison
The taxpayers, the taxpayers of America and the taxpayers here in Texas, it's them.
They have the money.
We're taxing Texans out of our homes.
unidentified
And then the so-called Republican government here in Texas is weaponizing that money against Texans, against their children, and against their values by indoctrinating and inculcating an entire generation into this diversity, equity, and inclusion nonsense is transgender indoctrination and ideology.
And this is going to shock people.
brian harrison
The problems that I exposed at Texas A ⁇ M, that's not an isolated event.
It's all throughout the entire Texas A ⁇ M University system, but also every public university in the state of Texas has some type of DEI and transgender indoctrination.
unidentified
Most of our public universities, you can get not just one class, Steve, an entire undergraduate course of study, a minor in LGBT transgender studies.
And Texas State University, you know, there's a viral video went around of a kid.
It was disgusting, vulgar display, him mocking Charlie Kirk's death.
But so all the elected Republican leadership, including our governor, like, expel the student.
And I'm like, I'm sorry.
brian harrison
That's a distraction.
unidentified
Sure, expel the students.
brian harrison
But the bigger problem is Texas State University is indoctrinating countless more just like him and they're using tax dollars to do it.
unidentified
By the way, Abbott, correct me if I'm wrong, Abbott's social media team, one of the students, I think it was the young woman at Texas Tech, he put F-A-F-O.
I'm like, he's the biggest, like, you know, a Texas Ranger coming in.
It's unbelievable.
These guys think they're big shots for kicking these kids out.
Of course, the kids ought to be kicked out, no doubt about that.
However, you got to go to the railhead of the rot, and that's in the university system.
steve bannon
That's on these boards.
unidentified
That's people that have known it, have been told to stop it, and it hasn't stopped.
It gets perpetuated, and it's because of the gutless nature of the senior folks in Texas politics.
As we've seen time and time again, only when they put a bayonet and nudge them in the back, are they going to do anything?
Other than that, they're going to give you happy talk on Fox of all the stuff they're doing.
steve bannon
Go ahead.
unidentified
Go ahead, sir.
brian harrison
No, they're acting all big and tough by going after these kids.
And of course, the kids probably should be expelled in some of these.
unidentified
FAFO, are you kidding me, Governor Abbott?
brian harrison
Every single regent, every single chancellor, every single president, every single indoctrinating professor was hired directly or indirectly by you or one of your political appointees.
I'm sorry.
The rot starts at the top here in the state of Texas, and every single indoctrinator, every single leftist progressive running every public university or every state agency in Texas just about was appointed by Governor Greg Abbott.
unidentified
And quite frankly, Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick and the Texas Senate nor the Texas House have expressed one ounce of interest in cutting off the phones for leftist liberal indoctrination.
And in fact, they've been appointing leftist progressive Barack Obama officials all across the state of Texas for years.
And they've refused every call to bring us back and finally let us defund all of this woke nonsense.
Texas should be leading the fight against woke leftist indoctrination, not forcing taxpayers to be taxed out of their homes to subsidize the destruction and the cancerous rot indoctrinating the next generation.
But that's exactly what's happening down here.
Okay, you had a saddle up last week on this video and people put their shoulders to the wheel.
steve bannon
We got a scalp, a big one.
unidentified
What's next?
What do you need this audience to do today, today, today, today?
Because this is all about taking, it's only going to change if the grassroots take action.
steve bannon
So what do we do, sir?
unidentified
So two things: one with the executive branch and one with the legislative branch.
brian harrison
Go back, because the posse, by the way, every one of you that made a phone call or an email from my, let me say it to you directly, thank you.
unidentified
We couldn't have gotten that victory without your help, but keep it up, okay?
The governor, governor of Texas, appoints all the leadership in these universities.
brian harrison
He needs to be told right now, you call us back for a special session.
unidentified
I've been demanding him do this publicly and in writing for months.
He refuses.
brian harrison
Bring us back for a special session and order us to defund every public university and every state agency that's using taxpayer money for woke indoctrination.
unidentified
And then, number two, because you've now seen it, they've got the power.
If we can fire the president of Texas AM just by political pressure, you know what?
Every other leftist indoctrinating chancellor and president of every public university that's still engaged in transgender indoctrination, your cover's been blown, man.
brian harrison
We know you've got the power to fire them.
Fire them immediately.
unidentified
And every other taxpayer-funded official engage in indoctrination.
brian harrison
And then to Dan Patrick and the leaders of the Texas House and the Texas Senate, assuming the governor calls us back, stop defeating every piece of legislation to ban DEI and transgender indoctrination.
Stop passing fake bills that actually authorize instead of being a woke leftist indoctrination.
Stand up, be the Republicans that 30 million Texans are voting for and demand and deserve.
They want bold Republican leadership.
They deserve bold Republican leadership.
unidentified
We have the power here in the state of Texas to save not just America, but the future of Western civilization.
But we can't do it if we are funding the very ideologies that Charlie Kirk, God bless his soul and his family, dedicated his life to defeating.
brian harrison
But that's exactly what's going on down here in God's country.
Texans deserve better.
Americans deserve better.
unidentified
Harrison, where do they go to your always on fire Twitter feed, sir?
Yeah, without this ex-feed, guys, this wouldn't have been possible.
We cover more than all the media in Texas combined, and the grassroots likening and amplifying it made all the difference here.
At Brian E. Harrison, please take two seconds.
Go to Twitter at BrianE. Harrison at Brian E. Harrison.
Follow, like, share, and amplify.
We are going to save this country by saving the state of Texas.
And every one of you watching right now, you can play an instrumental and material role in protecting liberty and freedom for the next generation.
Thank you, brother.
Great work.
Not good work.
Great work.
Amazing.
We're impossible.
steve bannon
We need a special assessment.
unidentified
We need to defund and fire.
How about that?
steve bannon
We'll keep it simple down in Texas.
unidentified
I'll get you some numbers.
We'll start making some calls today.
Mark Mitchell joins us, the pollster over at Rest Mussum.
steve bannon
Mark, you had these amazing insights the other day about Reddit.
unidentified
And voila, next thing you know, we're going to have a hearing on Capitol Hill.
And look, I've been on Comer, but hey, God bless you if this is where you're going.
So want me to, first off, what exactly has been announced?
Congressman Comer, head of oversight, has announced what specifically.
First, I just want to step back and say, Steve, how long are you going to keep playing MSNBC Cold Opens?
I went and checked while I was watching this, Gumbags, and their website is ranked 885 in the U.S.
It's ranked between babylist.com and a gay hentai site.
And I just looked in Citizen Free Press.
Kane has the 690th rank in the U.S. They're literally irrelevant.
I don't think anybody should care at all about these people getting fired.
mark mitchell
I think it's beautiful because now, because ABC Disney got political, the right boycotted them.
unidentified
Now you fire Jimmy Kimmel and the left boycotts him.
It's awesome.
mark mitchell
Like burn these assholes to the ground.
unidentified
And I'll also tell you that, listen, if this was a fascist crackdown, like they want to admit, the lies aren't going to stop.
They're going to call Trump a fascist.
Well, guess what?
In four days, Trump approval, his net approval is up 10 points right now.
Trump is plus seven.
We haven't seen that level since the middle of June.
So if this is a fascist crack.
Hang on, hang on.
Hang on.
That's the biggest bounce and pop I think we've had.
How did the 10 point, what was the 10 point pop?
This is over the last week in the trend line.
Yeah, tell Cameron to go to my Twitter feed.
It looks ridiculous.
I just put a chart up.
It's insane.
Yeah.
Like people absolutely are piling behind Trump right now.
And I think, like we talked about, it's because people are reprioritizing.
They're like, man, something's going on.
Maybe I should just bury those hatchets and get in line behind a leader.
And so the Democrats know this.
mark mitchell
Ram Emmanuel knows this.
unidentified
Don't ever let a crisis go to waste.
The Democrats would be pushing through aggressive action right now.
And look, the Trump administration is starting to do it too.
mark mitchell
And this is how things change.
unidentified
This is what strong leadership is.
Okay, hang on for a second.
Mark Mitchell is going to stick with this.
Mark has nailed one of the secrets of the war room.
steve bannon
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Short commercial break.
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steve bannon
You text my name, Bannon 989898, and get the ultimate guide.
unidentified
It's this guy we put out now for investing in gold and precious metals in the age of Trump.
Or you can go with the one I'm proudest of is the end of the dollar empire, something we started four years ago with Birch Gold to kind of teach people why gold is gold.
And look, the great news is Philip Patrick and I are not gold bugs at all.
We came out of investment banking in a very different, very different mentality.
But times have changed and things have changed.
And that's what we thought was very important, particularly to teach you about the dollar, the U.S. dollar, as the prime reserve currency, which is a fiat currency since it's, you know, has not been backed by gold by a long time.
I guess the greenbacks haven't been backed by gold since the Civil War.
Now, up on, I think we got it on Getter, just put up Ray Dahlia.
And look, Ray Dahlia is not my total cup of tea, made a ton of money in China in business with the Chinese Communist Party, runs the biggest, or used to run the biggest hedge fund in the world, Bridgewater, but very smart investor.
He just come out and you ought to read the article that's out.
steve bannon
He's saying that, you know, all these fiat currencies, you got to really drill down.
unidentified
And maybe one of the best things you can do is look at gold, the acquisition of gold for your financial future.
Don't take it from me.
steve bannon
Read his piece and then go to Birch Gold.
What you should do is get as much information as possible about all this.
unidentified
Then you make the decisions, okay?
And we've got a lot more coming out of that.
And hopefully maybe even a conference sometime in October or November.
Get you all there.
So I want to go back because are you telling me basically from the time that Charlie got the assassination to essentially today, there's been a 10-point rise in President Trump's numbers?
Is that because of just his leadership and his no-nonsense approach and the radical nature of these enemies, the enemies of the United States, both foreign and domestic?
Charlie Kirk was shot nine days ago now, and the first thing we saw was right direction plunge.
It's been between 45 and 50% for most of Trump's second term, which is just fanatically unprecedented.
mark mitchell
We've never seen anything like that before.
unidentified
It dropped from 45 to 40, and it looks like it's on the way back up to 42.
That was the gut punch.
That was people like, what's going on?
It was a drop of seven points of Republican right direction, six points in independence.
Democrats went up a little, but I don't think it's because they like that Charlie Kirk was assassinated.
Only in the last four days has Trump approval gone up.
So I think it's a reaction.
Maybe it's a delayed reaction or it's a reaction to the action and the way that he's framing these things.
And if you can look at that chart, everybody watching right now, that red line, that bright red line that is Trump is in very unprecedented territories because presidents come in.
I have the last four presidencies up here.
They come in and the summer is usually where the buyer's remorse and delusionment sets in.
And Trump's number, net plus seven right now, we don't have a single data point at all, like anywhere past June, July in any of the other presidencies.
So this is new.
Normally, presidents are getting beat up right now.
And right now, Donald Trump is taking aggressive action to crack down on domestic terrorists.
And it would appear that America is cheering.
And this is the problem we find ourselves in because I wasn't sure if they were going to keep lying.
They are businesses.
You were talking about that.
They lose a significant amount of money.
Look at the propagandists at 538 and how much money that the New York Times and Disney threw into that black hole of propaganda and information gatekeeping.
And they finally just shut it down.
mark mitchell
They didn't fix it.
unidentified
And I thought, well, maybe after this, MSNBC is finally going to have to change and tell the truth.
Maybe all these people on the networks are not going to do it.
For some reason, we don't know they can't.
They're just, they can't.
So they're going to die.
mark mitchell
We're watching them die.
unidentified
All these hosts are getting fired.
They're rebranding these websites.
mark mitchell
The ratings are plunging right now.
unidentified
The last time I looked multiple times, combined CNN and Fox News or combined CNN and NBC prime time viewership in the demo was less than half of Fox News combined.
And now we're hearing talk about, well, maybe some of these networks will be taken over and turned into conservative leaning things.
So they're all dying.
But the problem is, is that the internet stole a march on America.
And that's the problem.
mark mitchell
It's that there's really a political battle between the right and the left and their lies.
unidentified
And the right is winning right now, as anybody who goes to Twitter can see.
The predominant narrative now has completely been replaced by common sense, like pro-MAGA agenda type things.
Like, nope, we can't have mentally deranged people getting surgically altered as minors on the taxpayer dollar.
No, we shouldn't have like violent narco-terrorists flooding across our border.
And that's good.
But the problem is, is that there's another battle, and that's the battle for the mind of our kids and for this fourth turning.
And what is society going to look like and how is it going to reform itself?
And if society is reformed based on the current set of values owned by the 18 to 29 year olds, mostly Zoomers, then we're in real trouble.
Like it is messed up out there.
And that's the people that are going to come in front of Congress and get raked over the coals.
Hopefully, I don't even know.
Most these people are septogenarians.
They might not even understand the right thing to do.
I want to bifurcate that because I think, and I keep saying this, I think there's segments of the 18 to 30 year olds that are the most based generation this country's ever had.
And I think the salvation of this nation lies in there.
It's how you help it grow.
It's how you nurture it.
steve bannon
Charlie saw an aspect of it.
There's also a broader aspect of that.
unidentified
I think that's where this fight's going to be as they step up and take entry-level leadership jobs and then work up the food chain.
Hang on, sorry, but I want to go to when you say Zoomers are messed up overall.
I want to go because you brought up the CESPO.
The internet has got a lot of positive stuff to it.
It's also got a dark underbelly.
And talk about the companies.
Talk about Reddit.
Why is Comers hearing bringing these CEOs in there?
And hopefully it's a star chamber.
But talk to us about Reddit because I think people were shocked the other day because a lot of people remember Reddit in 2016 with the Donald and I think Great Awakening.
It was the Donald Great Awakening.
The Pepe's were all there.
This is Cernovich.
This is how you had Facebook and you had these sites that were kind of in Reddit, Reddit chat rooms that were quite important at the time to get the Trump movement out because Trump didn't have a lot of money.
I mean, this is what we knew at Breitbart.
This is one of the things we looked at after Gamergate, that there was a real disassociation with young men.
Young men had felt like they weren't being listened to.
They weren't part of the process.
And that's really one of the great driving force powers of the Trump years 15 and 16 all the way to the presidency, sir.
Yeah, I agree with you 100%.
What would our society look like right now if Reddit hadn't banned the Donald?
The problem is that I agree with you that there are a big chunk of these people who are based.
And I think they're powerful leaders.
They're willing to take action.
And a lot of them are just playing video games right now because society is in a horrible state.
mark mitchell
But this is the battle that's been playing out.
unidentified
That's what I'm talking about.
Everybody knows about the public school teachers.
Everybody knows about captured academia.
But the problem is that the boot of Marxism has been on the throat of the free market of ideas.
These ideas win in a free market.
The fact that the Donald rose to supremacy on the free speech outpost at the time, Reddit, I think, proves it.
And the way in which YouTubers rebelled against big media, like turning Star Wars and Marvel gay and making horrible content.
That was a culture war that was actually won before Donald Trump got into the White House for a second time.
A lot of people don't talk about this.
So this is a battleground.
mark mitchell
But the problem is, is that they're have, like I said, I called it a monoculture.
unidentified
That's the problem: okay, well, how did you get to Charlie Kirk?
How did you become a conservative?
Were you raised, you had good parents?
That's fine.
mark mitchell
Most of the people did not grow up like me or you.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
mark mitchell
I didn't have the internet.
I grew up playing stickball.
I went to Boy Scouts.
There were men who mentored me.
unidentified
I went to church.
mark mitchell
Everybody went to church.
unidentified
I had a two-parent household and was instilled with Christian values.
And I worked hard and I wanted a job and I wanted to date women.
It's like absolutely wild.
Now, I also grew up with the internet.
And I know what these kids are seeing is that their families are broken.
Their teachers are weirdos at best, groomers at worst in many instances.
The entertainment that they see, they're exposed to it way too soon.
You see six-year-olds going to like movies that are made for late teenagers all the time, right?
And then they go on internet.
The parents are not watching them.
They're immediately on TikTok.
Then they get on YouTube.
There's really no age filters for any of this stuff.
And their mind is being crafted by an algorithm.
mark mitchell
Then they, you know, they get their teenage friends.
unidentified
They want to, what's everybody doing?
Everybody's playing Minecraft.
Everybody's playing Fortnite.
Oh, they're all going to use Discord and they're all going to chat together.
And oh, this person has provocative things to say.
Oh, that's fun.
I'm going to follow them.
And they build communities and then they wind up in Discord chats.
That turns into going to Reddit.
They go on to Reddit and all of a sudden they hear about things like transgenderism.
And who's teaching these kids about transgenderism?
It's people on meds.
It's 35-year-old groomers.
It's people who we've had a society that's been fractured by individualism, kinks, niches, perversion in many cases.
And now, you know, Steam too.
Again, I don't think Steam, I think Steam is the cleanest, dirty shirt here.
mark mitchell
Steam is just a marketplace for video games, but it also has a community, but it's big.
Everybody pretty much has a Steam account.
unidentified
And that's like, okay, if I'm going to play video games on my computer, then I'm going to be exposed to a culture that has been purifying itself.
mark mitchell
They went after the gamers.
unidentified
Remember, back in Gamergate, the gaming industry is much bigger than the movie industry.
And it was pretty right.
It was pretty right.
mark mitchell
It wasn't political, but if you went on video game chats in, you know, 2006 or 2008, you were going to hear a lot of hard, hard-right stuff.
unidentified
Well, they completely feminized that.
All the video game developers now have been infested by woke to the point where they're actually shutting down because they can't even put good content out.
The fact that this, like, I don't know how many tens of billions of dollars the video game industry is, but these are massive companies that have been imploding over the last five or six years, along with all the movie studios, because the message doesn't sell.
But the problem is, is that the kids are still ubiquitously getting the message online.
The transgenderism Reddit on subreddit on Reddit is as big as the Christianity subreddit.
mark mitchell
So it is very much a holy war.
unidentified
These aren't like fringe groups.
The anarchy subreddit is 280,000 subscribers.
Anti-fascists, 120,000.
Those aren't even that active anymore because they've migrated to Discord chats and to the dark web.
And now, again, are these CEOs cultivating terrorist networks?
mark mitchell
No, I don't think so.
unidentified
But what they've been doing is they've been what we've seen everywhere.
The same thing that happened on Twitter.
It's playing out in all these other places.
One side of the argument gets shut down.
It's not a free market of ideas.
Why does that happen?
Who's the influence?
Is it Suuros?
mark mitchell
Is it USAID?
unidentified
Is it Tencent ownership stake?
Why did they shut down the biggest pro-Donald subreddit?
It had millions of followers.
The ability for them to form narratives to the whole tramp for people into this movement.
It was essential in the 2016 fight, trust me.
And right after we won, when big tech realized what had happened, they shut everything down.
Short break.
steve bannon
Mark Mitchell on the other side.
unidentified
We will fight till they're all gone.
We rejoice when there's an old war.
Let's take down the CCP.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bass.
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We'll push out Elizabeth.
Who can get it?
We'll push it out the Ray Dalio article talking about his thoughts on just the purchase of gold.
steve bannon
That's kind of the thinking, too, of a lot of the central banks that are buying it at record rates.
unidentified
Well, if Ray Dalio is, and a lot of the big Wall Street hedge funds and central banks, what do they know that you don't?
They understand the end of the dollar empire, right?
You need to understand it.
We're not selling you fish.
We're teaching you how to fish.
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So make sure that you understand why gold has been a hedge against times of financial turmoil, turbulence for 5,000 years of mankind's history, particularly as we're heading into a third world war.
Seems like we're getting dragged into every day.
You saw President Trump yesterday in the United Kingdom talking about Putin.
So I think you're going to see tariffs, more economic warfare coming because the Europeans don't want to stand up with troops, money, whatever they promise Ukraine, they ain't going to be there.
Mark Mitchell, and I'm going to get into this more in the second hour.
Herbert Marcuse, the Frankfurt School, critical theory, critical race theory, critical queer theory or queer theory, the evolution.
Communism, the economics of communism dies.
When people call them communists, I don't even like that term because the economic model proved radonkulous.
But Marx was a sociologist and a historian more than he was an economist.
Marxism is living and breathing and is powerful.
It's more powerful than it was during the Soviet Union, right?
It is living, breathing in China as they control that dictatorship, as a dictatorship of the CCP, but it's living in the West.
And this is what has to be eradicated root and branch.
Andrew Breitbart warned you about it.
So many people have warned you about it.
And now it's time to take action, action, action.
steve bannon
Mark Mitchell, your thoughts, sir?
unidentified
Yeah, it looks like we're on track for a messy fourth turning.
mark mitchell
As I said, people tolerate stuff until they can no longer afford to tolerate things.
unidentified
And it would appear that our time for tolerating radical Marxism is finally at an end.
And I, for one, applaud it because what it ultimately comes down to is literally just an attack on logic, an attack on truth, which is, I think, a very important and fundamental part of our society.
And so, yeah, they, I read a tweet the other day of somebody who spent time embedded in Antifa.
mark mitchell
They don't believe any of that stuff.
unidentified
They're not reading the books that you said, Steve.
mark mitchell
It's literally just about power.
unidentified
And yes, apparently, these organizations, although they will tell you, oh, it's not, it's not an actual group.
Yeah, okay, it probably doesn't have incorporation papers in the state of Delaware.
mark mitchell
That doesn't mean it's not active on the Action Network, that it's showing up or organizing no kings rallies, that it's getting money somewhere from probably taxpayers funneled through George Soros NGOs.
I don't know, but they're going to trace it now.
unidentified
But this ideology, we've seen it at work.
They came for the family.
They came for everybody's heroes.
They came for the cultural zeitgeist and they poisoned it.
And all of those things have been destroyed and taken away from people.
And they reveled.
mark mitchell
And I don't think they really care that they've taken these brands and thrown them in the trash, that they've trampled on everything that Americans hold dear.
unidentified
I can't even send my kids to Boy Scouts now.
It's unbelievable.
And that was a big part of my upbringing.
And so they've taken everything from us.
And so now it looks like they're being defeated.
mark mitchell
But where do people go that don't have anything to look forward to?
unidentified
They spend their time wallowing on the internet.
Most of them just playing games, definitely not procreating in a way that we need in order to sustain our dollar hegemony.
mark mitchell
I can tell you that right now.
So even if we fix our societal issues, we're still headed for a reckoning of monetary implosion, as we all know.
unidentified
But they're, again, they're not dating at all.
Like that was the, hey, that's what everybody my age actually wanted to do when you're a teenager.
mark mitchell
You imagine that?
unidentified
And so it's no wonder that some of these kids get radicalized because the groups are there.
They've been allowed to fester.
Nobody has held them accountable at all.
It's been five years since Donald Trump actually said the words, Antifa is a domestic terror organization.
And there's been zero prioritization within these companies, within the government, within the conservative movement to hold these people accountable.
And accountability is coming now.
And obviously, they're going to keep lying to try and maintain cover.
And they're going to try and use it in the most accelerationist way as possible.
That's where we are right now.
But again, in the fourth turning, we talked about this.
This is the idea that, okay, eventually there's a collapse in societal trust.
It's cyclical.
And at the end, at the very end, it all comes crashing down and society gets reformed, most likely out of necessity, by a new generation of people.
And I can tell you now, we talked about that polling, the 18 to 29-year-old polling.
These people are not true-blooded free market capitalists.
mark mitchell
They think the system has failed them.
unidentified
No.
And so it would behoove us to change things sooner rather than later.
I think, I think it's a mister.
I'll tell you, we've got to let you go.
But I've got to have you back, particularly with Charlie's.
We're going to do wall to all coverage of Charlie's funeral.
I want to have you as part of that because of your blinding insights.
What we have in the United States is not capitalism.
We poll for capitalism.
It's corporatism.
What they reject, what they reject is corporatism, something that treats them like what has been said for 10 years now, Russian serfs.
steve bannon
They don't own anything and they're not going to own anything.
They're just a cog in the wheel.
unidentified
And they're sitting there going, well, hang on.
This country wasn't built like this.
Our forefathers, my great-grandparents, my great-great-grandparents, the history of my family doesn't show that.
Why are we doing it?
Mark, where do people go to get all your insights, YouTube, all of it, sir?
Yeah, final thought.
The paradox just struck me that we see the messy fourth turning coming.
mark mitchell
You know it's coming.
unidentified
I know it's coming.
mark mitchell
The rich billionaires know it's coming, and they could avert it by benevolently using their money to help reform these institutions.
unidentified
They could avert it, but they're not going to.
And so you know who's going to have to be benevolent?
It's the blood of the proles.
That's who's going to have to be benevolent time after time.
Rasmussen underscore poll, honest pollster on Twitter.
And we just put a pretty good YouTube video out last night, too.
Rasmussen underscore poll.
I'll have to walk you through some fourth turning.
steve bannon
It's never benevolent.
unidentified
It just doesn't have that.
But we'll talk about that later.
Mark Mitchell, brilliant young man and great pollster.
steve bannon
Thank you, sir, from Rasmussen.
unidentified
Thanks, Steve.
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steve bannon
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unidentified
Very powerful first hour.
Second hour, we're going to take it up a couple of notches.
Yes, yes, yes, we're at war.
We're not going to unify.
We're going to win victoriously.
We don't need the violence of the left because they have no solutions.
And we do.
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