Sept. 12, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| To translate to action. | ||
| Listen, they think they have this theory that if they take out Trump and they get Tucker Carlson fired and they liquidate Alex Jones and they keep MTG off committees for her first term in Congress, unheard of. | ||
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If they take away the law license of Rudy Giuliani and bankrupt one of the greatest men in this country, if they bankrupt the Hoffs over a gateway pundit and John Eastman, I can go down and down and down and get parents to go into school boards intimidated if they can go take the little Catholic churches, the Latin Mass Catholic churches and intimidate them. | |
| If we just sit there and say, oh, woe is me, then we lose. | ||
| We're winning. | ||
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We're ascended. | |
| This movement's getting bigger every day. | ||
| Look at why did Joe Biden roll the dice and want to debate President Trump on Thursday, five months before the campaign, simply because he's so far down. | ||
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He's so far behind because African Americans, Hispanics, Asian Americans, people under 29 years old, everybody is coming to MAGA, two-thirds of the country to MAGA, and they're coming because they understand that this is about taking their country back and stopping this invasion, stopping the forever war, stopping the madness on Capitol Hill. | |
| Our movement's ascended. | ||
| They think if they can decapitate that and do it with 50 negative pieces on Charlie Kirk and turning points terrible. | ||
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And trust me, Charlie Kirk is going to get an IRS investigation. | |
| They're already, you know, I'm sure going after Charlie Kirk in every different aspect. | ||
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If we act like we're intimidated, they're going to win. | |
| Here's why I'm so, look, would I rather not spend the next four months there? | ||
| Of course not. | ||
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But it is what it is. | |
| And here's what I know. | ||
| My team and our audience will step up to the plate. | ||
| That's why next man up, because this is a 20-year project to take our country back. | ||
| A lot of us are not going to be around in a couple of years. | ||
| President Trump is 78 years old and had the burden of the world put on him, including being not just a company strip, but in a couple of weeks, he's going to be sentenced to prison. | ||
| Donald Trump, who gave us three and a half, four years of peace and prosperity as president. | ||
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This is how out of control it is. | |
| Oh, what she's doing is she's trying to get out the visual and the idea of assassinating Donald Trump. | ||
| This is where this is headed. | ||
| I hope everyone understands whether it be Julius Caesar, yeah, Julius Caesar, Abraham Lincoln, John F. Kennedy, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King Jr., Bobby Kennedy, assassinations of major political leaders are nothing new. | ||
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And yet we've kind of been immune to that for a couple of decades. | |
| We have been warning about this for months. | ||
| Now, the very interesting question is, will they try to kill Joe Biden or Donald Trump? | ||
| That's the interesting question. | ||
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Which one right now is a bigger threat to them? | |
| And I'll let the audience kind of ruminate on that question. | ||
| But we've been warning about this for quite some months. | ||
| This is why the next man up philosophy is so important and why we wanted to do the show with you, Steve, as a show of force, is that you take one out, 100 more appear. | ||
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You take one out, 1,000 more appear. | |
| You take one out, 10,000 more appear. | ||
| You take one out, we give more money. | ||
| You take one out, we register more voters. | ||
| You take one out is that it only actually makes us stronger. | ||
| You see, there are three different ways to analyze political movements or to categorize them. | ||
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There are the fragile, the durable, and the anti-fragile. | |
| This is from Nassim Taleb, which is a phenomenal book. | ||
| The fragile. | ||
| The fragile is the Mitt Romney Republican Party. | ||
| That is the Paul Ryan Republican Party. | ||
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You say one bad word about them, they collapse, they bend a knee, they surrender, and they're relentlessly apologizing, and they're spineless. | |
| Then there is the durable. | ||
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The durable is the best of the conservative movement prior to Donald Trump. | |
| That would be the conservative movement that always held on and they put up a good point fight, had some fortitude, but didn't quite have enough to be able to endure the grind or the slog of the activist regime media. | ||
| And then there is the anti-fragile. | ||
| I include, I encourage everyone to read the book Anti-Fragile. | ||
| In the book, Anti-Fragile, Nassim Taleb argues that there are unique people, organizations, movements, restaurants, companies that actually get stronger the more pressure and opposition that is applied upon them. | ||
| And when you find an anti-fragile movement, that their life force is actually what ends up being opposition. | ||
| That is Donald Trump. | ||
| Has anyone noticed that Donald Trump looks younger, stronger, more full of life and vitality after the indictments than before the indictments? | ||
| It gives him purpose, reason of being. | ||
| It gives him a telos, as the Greekers would say, or a teleological purpose for existence. | ||
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This movement that we are part of right now, that historians will write about for the next 1,000 years. | |
| Let me say that again. | ||
| This movement that you are part of will be written about for the next millennia. | ||
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People do not remember the many movements from four or five hundred years ago, maybe a little bit here, English Revolution or whatever. | |
| This movement will be written about for 1,000 years. | ||
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And when the history books are written, it will befuddle historians 600, 700, 800 years from now. | |
| Why is it that the people that had so much to lose, the Steve Bannons, the Peter Navarros, the Donald Trumps, they kept on doubling and tripling down because full of fortitude and that resolute spirit, we have the chance to influence the arc of history, as the left-winger Hegelians would always say. | ||
| The arc of history always bends towards justice. | ||
| How about this? | ||
| The arc of history will bend back towards citizen-led government, not subjects, not slaves. | ||
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And we will use this dark moment as they cart you off tomorrow, Steve, and put you in handcuffs and we say goodbye for 123 days. | |
| For 123 days, I will work harder than I ever have my entire life. | ||
| This is repulsive. | ||
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This is disgusting. | |
| It is outrageous. | ||
| And it is a call to action for every citizen watching right now to do more. | ||
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You are not doing enough. | |
| I am not doing enough because one of our on-field commanders is getting taken off for 123 days. | ||
| What are we going to do about it? | ||
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | |
| Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people. | ||
| Here's not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
| MAGA media. | ||
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | |
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| we had Andrew and Tyler on and then of course we tossed to the Charlie Kirk show, Jack Bisobic and Andrew and Tyler and that show was magnificent. | ||
| You had so many of folks that just can't do much TV now because they're in the government certain areas. | ||
| You had Darren Beattie and others come on. | ||
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It was fantastic. | |
| I think Speaker Johnson actually called up one to be on Raheemazon. | ||
| So, all day you've gotten a good flavor. | ||
| What we wanted to try to do is make sure that you got a sense of Charlie Kirk besides the public just persona. | ||
| You've seen Charlie making speeches or Charlie on TV and doing interviews. | ||
| But this one was so special because Jack and Charlie, given that they were going to have the 12 o'clock show, were my, I think, close to my last guest, if not my last guest, on the morning of one July in the year of the Lord 2024 when I was about to jump in an SUV with the late great Bernie Carrick and Eric Prince and go to Danbury Prison, which was right up the road from the hotel where we shot the morning show. | ||
| Look at Charlie's understanding. | ||
| It's very haunting, right? | ||
| I'm talking about Next Man Up because, hey, when I went to prison, I was very specific because you know, everybody that comes and works at the war room has to watch 12 o'clock high, which is all about Next Man Up and about teams, right, and small organizations. | ||
| I didn't give any instructions to Dave Bradder, Natalie Winters, or Peter Navarro wasn't out of prison yet, but to all the other, you know, Mike Davis and everybody else that pitched in and took a four-hour show. | ||
| It's very tough to find host when you're on four hours a day, and particularly when you're split, two in the morning and two in the afternoon. | ||
| And the rule of thumb, folks, should know in both radio and TV, it's two or three hours of preparation for every one hour you're on air. | ||
| And Rush Limbaugh, I think, laid out that. | ||
| And Rush had accumulation of such knowledge, so you can imagine for most people, to kind of walk through the questions, the clips, think through the issues, make sure you sound like you know what you're talking about. | ||
| So that's the preparation. | ||
| And I was about to go to prison for four months. | ||
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And this show, which was so vital as an organizing instrument for the grassroots, for the precinct strategy, and for Tyler and everything everybody was doing on the grassroots level. | |
| And they took me out on purpose at that time. | ||
| You remember that? | ||
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They kind of gun-decked the whole thing. | |
| First of all, the whole thing was a joke, but they gun-decked the timing and delayed the appeals for months and months and months just so I would be taken out for those 123 days right to the rumpet election and only have a week left over. | ||
| And they didn't realize we could do a lot from federal prison to help organize. | ||
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But it was very important to me to know that the organization could go on if I was not there because they are trying to take us out. | |
| Remember, the head of our movement, they were trying to put in federal prison. | ||
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And Charlie Kirk came on totally off the top of his head, just off of that, what I had said and turned to him before I'm about to punch out for four months, and the burden's really going to be on him and Jack, you know, with the Charlie Kirk show, all of it. | |
| And lays out, and very hauntingly talks about the assassinations, talks about Next Man Up, talks about the responsibility of it all, talks about how they were trying to take out Trump and what purpose is, and particularly Tlaib's book on anti-fragile. | ||
| Talib had reached out to me after 16, after 16, to talk about the fact that the organization then, the Trump campaign then, the Trump movement then, the rising movement of MAGA, was an anti-fragile organization. | ||
| This guy was Arthur. | ||
| He created the concept, the idea, was a massive bestseller. | ||
| And people will tell you in business and finance, they studied this. | ||
| And he says, you guys compared to Hillary Clinton and the Bush apparatus and everything Trump had taken on in the primaries, you saw this anti-fragility, this resilience that, you know, you can't be beaten. | ||
| And what do I say on the show all the time? | ||
| We're not going to lose if we don't quit. | ||
| Also, is it Nick Friedas or somebody had a great piece they put up on Twitter? | ||
| And I think I reposted it that said he finally came to the conclusion that the two sides are, there's no commonality anymore, or not enough commonality to kind of bring the country together. | ||
| And he said he finally came to the conclusion one side's going to win and one side is going to lose. | ||
| That's absolutely the case. | ||
| There's no common ground. | ||
| Look at the mocking they've done of Charlie's horrific death. | ||
| Charlie Kirk, as fine a young man as you could ever have, a young man that as a young man, as someone in his 20s, with no college education. | ||
| Remember, no Ivy League education. | ||
| In fact, what inspired him was getting rejected by West Point. | ||
| So with no college education, in the modern world where you have to have not just a college education, you have to go to, if you don't go to an Ivy League school or an Ivy equivalent or public Ivy like University of Michigan or Wisconsin or UVA, you know, you can't get ahead in the world. | ||
| He had put together an organization and he had done as much in his 20s. | ||
| You have to really go back. | ||
| You have to go back to the revolutionary generation. | ||
| You have to go back to Hamilton and Jefferson and Madison and Monroe and all these. | ||
| You have to go back to what they accomplished to see the impact of somebody in their 20s. | ||
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And right there with the brilliance just off the top of his head, with the clock ticking down for me, and hey, you don't know we might never ever see each other again. | |
| Right? | ||
| You don't know some 70-year-old guy is heading to federal prison. | ||
| You don't know what's going to happen. | ||
| And Charlie, right there, just as a passion, I remember finishing that and when we toss and the Charlie Kirk show took off at noon that always followed us on Real America's Voice. | ||
| I remember getting in the vehicle with Bernie Carrick, the late and great Bernie Carrick, who remember used to do every 9-11 show with Bernie and Rudy and Eric Prince. | ||
| And, you know, we talked one a couple minutes before we went to a little press conference outside, and then they actually got in the vehicle with me and went up to the actual prison, actually into the prison gates itself where I was actually taken into prison. | ||
| And I said, we don't have to worry, we got this. | ||
| It's not just the next man up of Natalie Winters and Mike Davis and Dave Bratt and Ben Harnwell and all the great people that pitched in our great production team. | ||
| I said, Charlie and Jack, they really get it at a very deep level, a very deep and profound level. | ||
| That individual was assassinated. | ||
| Executed, I might say, in cold blood, in front of the world. | ||
| With his died with his boots on, doing what he loved best, debating, the exchange of ideas, and convincing people to see the light. | ||
| Air Force 2 has landed. | ||
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They're not really showing video of it, but Air Force 2 has landed to take Charlie's remains to Phoenix. | |
| And Kash Patel, the head of the FBI, is en route out here to where we are, Utah. | ||
| All next in the war room. | ||
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| Okay, media that justified the murder of Charlie Kirk. | ||
| I think it's terrible. | ||
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They ought to be ashamed of themselves. | |
| Why haven't they found the shooter yet, Mr. President? | ||
| Are you concerned that it's been 24 hours? | ||
| Well, I hear they're making big progress, and we'll have to see what happens. | ||
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Do you have any indication of the shooter's motivation, sir? | |
| I have an indication, yeah, but we'll let you know about that later. | ||
| You spoke with Mega Celebration. | ||
| And this last Sunday, you sent greetings to Kazakhstan. | ||
| UN General Assembly is upcoming. | ||
| Are you going to meet with the presidents of Central Asian countries? | ||
| President where? | ||
| Central Asian countries, Kazakhstan. | ||
| I will be, yeah. | ||
| They're very good people, and I will be doing that. | ||
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Do you believe that Keller is a trained assassin? | |
| Usually your instincts are always odd. | ||
| I'd rather not say. | ||
| I think progress is being made. | ||
| He's an animal, total animal. | ||
| And hopefully they'll have him and they'll get him. | ||
| What he did is disgraceful. | ||
| Charlie Kirk was a great person, a great man, great in every way, especially with youth. | ||
| And what he did, what this man did, was disgraceful. | ||
| So hopefully we'll have him and we will deal with him very appropriately. | ||
| What's your reaction to Russian drone inclusion into Poland? | ||
| Could have been a mistake. | ||
| Could have been a mistake. | ||
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But regardless, I'm not happy about anything having to do with that whole situation. | |
| But hopefully it's going to come to an end. | ||
| Mr. President, Imoracin Brazil. | ||
| Bolsonaro was just found guilty by the Supreme Court. | ||
| You've been very clear that you would apply sanctions. | ||
| Are you taking further sanctions to Brazil because of this Bolsonaro? | ||
| Well, I watched that trial. | ||
| I know him pretty well. | ||
| Foreign leader. | ||
| I thought he was a good president of Brazil. | ||
| And it's very surprising that that could happen. | ||
| That's very much like they tried to do with me, but they didn't get away with it at all. | ||
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But I can only say this: I knew him as president of Brazil. | |
| He was a good man. | ||
| And I don't see that happening. | ||
| First of all, I'm very sorry for your loss. | ||
| For everybody's loss. | ||
| I'm very sorry for your loss, first of all. | ||
| How do you think Israel's attack in Doha will affect the hostage deal? | ||
| You better say it a little bit more. | ||
| Where are you from? | ||
| I'm from Israel. | ||
| 2014 is like a city of the United States. | ||
| Go ahead, do it again. | ||
| Do it again. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| How do you think Israel's attack in Doha will affect the hostage deal? | ||
| Well, hopefully it won't affect it at all. | ||
| We want the hostages out, and we want them out soon. | ||
| Hopefully, it won't affect it. | ||
| Mr. President, I can go in this. | ||
| I can go if it's going to lost his right clothes. | ||
| Oh, you were holding up for the last day and a half. | ||
| I think very good. | ||
| And by the way, right there, you see all the trucks. | ||
| They've just started construction of the new ballroom for the White House, which is something they've been trying to get, as you know, for about 150 years. | ||
| And it's going to be a beauty. | ||
| It'll be an absolutely magnificent construction. | ||
| And I just see all the trucks. | ||
| We just started. | ||
| It'll get done very nicely, and it'll be one of the best anywhere in the world, actually. | ||
| Okay, that was a gaggle at the White House a little while ago. | ||
| The president is on Air Force One heading to New York City. | ||
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He will attend a Yankees game tonight in the owner's box. | |
| President Trump, a longtime Yankees fan and very close to George Steinbrenner, the father of the current ownership team. | ||
| Air Force 2 has arrived in Salt Lake City, Utah. | ||
| We're actually here in Utah, across from the state capitol. | ||
| Tomorrow, we're actually going to To do the show in a more remote location, maybe even closer to the activity of what happened the other day. | ||
| All that's in flux. | ||
| Also, in flux is all the arrangements for Charlie Kirk, Charlie Kirk's remains are being taken by Air Force II, I think shortly, and taken to Phoenix. | ||
| His wife, Erica, and the team, and Tyler and Andrew and the team that were on the show this morning. | ||
| And then we're with Jack Bisobic at noon doing the Charlie Kirk show. | ||
| Kash Patel, it's being reported, the Independent of London has it, that Kash Patel, the director of the FBI, just heard the president there right there saying they think we made real progress. | ||
| Kash Patel, the head of the FBI, I think is currently en route to Utah also as the search for the assassin and potentially accomplices. | ||
| And there's a lot of rumors flying around, a lot going on. | ||
| Although I just saw something, I think looks legit. | ||
| Steve Crowder and his team this morning did break scoops that they said they had, I think, from unnamed, he didn't say ATF, but unnamed federal officials that appeared to coincide with what the Wall Street Journal reported about the bullets, some of the bullets having a transgender ideology written on it. | ||
| And I think Antifa and supposedly he's gotten subpoenaed already, he and his team, about where they got that information. | ||
| Anyway, we'll try to break all that down. | ||
| Pozo is going to join us. | ||
| He's giving some other interviews right now. | ||
| I think Pozo is also going to be on Laura Ingram tonight. | ||
| So Jack Basobic doing the duty, the media duty. | ||
| In the tragedy, think about it, the tragedy of 9-11, which we're commemorating, and we're going to try to do more of that in the next couple hours because we didn't have enough time actually to cover it. | ||
| Normally, we do an entire show on 9-11. | ||
| Given the horrific tragedy of Charlie Kirk, another tragedy today that you're just going to have to embrace because this is a global revolution and what this is a global movement, and President Trump's inspired it, it's all over the planet. | ||
| In Brazil, I would argue one of our strongest partners and some of the best people in the world, the Bolsonaro family and their associates around them, horrible news out of Brazil, of which we warned you it was coming. | ||
| Bolsonaro with that kangaroo court was found guilty today. | ||
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So let's go ahead. | |
| We got a clip, and then we've got Paulo Fergardo is going to join us. | ||
| News out of Brazil. | ||
| The country Supreme Court has just voted to convict former President Yair Bolsonaro of planning to overturn the country's 2022 election. | ||
| CNN's Julia Vargas-Jones is live in Los Angeles with some more on this. | ||
| Julia, what can you tell us? | ||
| Brianna, just moments ago, we heard that decision. | ||
| Decision, the charges that he was found guilty of a coup d'état, taking part in an armed criminal organization attempting to abolish Brazil's democratic order by force, damaging protective property. | ||
| That was all during Brazil's very own January 6th and all of the moments and the planning that led up to that moment on January 8, 2023. | ||
| Prosecutors accusing Bolsonaro not just of organizing, being the head of a criminal organization, but also attempting, planning to assassinate the now sitting president, then president-elect of Brazil, Luis Inasu, Lula de Silva, his vice president, as well as one of the Supreme Court justices, the very justice that this week led the trial against him and seven other of his close allies. | ||
| Brianna, this trial has been the focus of a diplomatic spat between Brazil and the United States. | ||
| It has cost Brazil 50% tariffs on all goods imported to the United States. | ||
| The big question what we're looking at now is what other retaliation could come from the United States in coming days as this verdict has now been not quite reached, but as the Supreme Court has come to a majority to condemn former President Jerry Bolsonaro, he could face 40 years in prison. | ||
| Now, it could take still some weeks until he is taken. | ||
| He is already under house arrest and barred from running for office until 2030 on separate matters. | ||
| It has to do with questioning the validity of the elections prior to the 2022 election. | ||
| All of this coming to a head today, Brianna, as we heard from a justice as she cast the final vote, I just want to tell you from Justice Carmen Lucia, she said, Brazil is only worth it because we can protect democracy, and that's what the justices said they were doing today. | ||
| It is quite a controversial trial, I have to say. | ||
| President Jerry Bolsonaro still has a lot of support from a big portion of the population in Brazil, and this has caused so much division. | ||
| We'll see what comes in the days ahead. | ||
| Bolsonaro was just found guilty by the Supreme Court. | ||
| You've been very clear that you would apply sanctions. | ||
| Are you thinking further sanctions to Brazil because of this Bolsonaro? | ||
| Well, I watched that trial. | ||
| I know him pretty well. | ||
| Foreign leader. | ||
| He's a good guy. | ||
| I thought he was a good president of Brazil. | ||
| And it's very surprising that that could happen. | ||
| That's very much like they tried to do with me, but they didn't get away with it at all. | ||
| But I can only say this: I knew him as president of Brazil. | ||
| He was a good man. | ||
| And I don't see that happening. | ||
| What has happened in Brazil is exactly, exactly what they try to do here in the United States. | ||
| They had, what, 91 indictments on President Trump. | ||
| It was going to be 350, 390 years in prison. | ||
| They wanted President Trump to die in prison. | ||
| If you listen to them now, they are upset that they didn't move that forward and close the deal. | ||
| This is why Charlie Kirk is so important. | ||
| This is why we're anti-fragile. | ||
| Having been the election stolen and President Trump driven from Washington, D.C., in those years in the wilderness, when they came after President Trump, they came after every de-bank, de-platform, all of it from the tech companies, from the financial companies. | ||
| They tried to destroy this movement and everybody around Trump. | ||
| And now today in Brazil, they've come to a decision, and they're going to put a verdict on him or a sentence on him to go to have Bolsonaro go to prison and to die in prison. | ||
| This is how vicious they are. | ||
| Did I mention that Charlie Kirk was assassinated, executed in cold blood in broad daylight? | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Brazil and Basovic next in the war. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Figueroa joins us now, one of our great associates down in Brazil, a very close advisor to the Bolsonaro family. | ||
| I might add the 50% tariffs the reporter talked about, I keep saying 30% of that, I think, is 30 to 40% is about President Bolsonaro. | ||
| 10%, I think, is a wake-up call for Lula about the BRICS and the de-dollarization program. | ||
| This is why go to birchgold.com slash abandon the end of the dollar empire, get up to speed on all of it, everything that's important regarding the U.S. dollar as a prime reserve currency and why the BRICS nations are the enemy of the world financial system predicated on the dollar. | ||
| Paula, first off, Paulo, this has been tough sledding for you because you were quite close to Charlie. | ||
| Talk to us about your relationship with Charlie Kirk and Charlie's concern and interest in Brazil. | ||
| Well, years ago, when Brazil was still off the radar of international press and Morai's dictatorship seemed too distant a problem, Charlie, it was pretty much just Charlie and you already standing up in our defense. | ||
| Charlie was one of the first to open space on his Charlie Kirk show to denounce what was going on in Brazil. | ||
| So he cared about the country. | ||
| And I can say without hesitation that without Charlie, Brazil would never have reached the point of securing sanctions against Alexander Moraes and other justice. | ||
| So everyone in Brazil is very grateful for him. | ||
| He also in 2023, when President Bolsonaro was in the United States for a couple of months, Charlie made a point of showing that his solidarity was not mere rhetoric. | ||
| He organized a major event for him in the Trump Hotel here in Miami. | ||
| I was there with him. | ||
| We had dinner together. | ||
| It was great. | ||
| So Charlie was not only an American patriot, though he was obviously one with unmatched intensity, but he was one of the fiercest defenders of the American First Creed, which is true. | ||
| But he was also, he saw that we had to defend the whole hemisphere and the Western civilization. | ||
| So also because he was a devoted Christian, a man of faith, with firm principles, moral courage. | ||
| So he loved freedom not merely as a political banner, but as an expression of the dignity God grants to have every human being. | ||
| So he was very concerned about the situation of Brazil. | ||
| Brazil. | ||
| He was one of the first to ask for tariffs and sanctions on Brazil and on Moraes for the Trump administration. | ||
| So we'll be forever grateful. | ||
| He was working behind the scenes with you guys and Eduardo and the great Vince Haley and Darren Beattie, Vince at the White House and Darren over at the State Department to do this. | ||
| Also, Charlie and I talked, I think Jack too, about knowing the irony that he was assassinated yesterday, because we talked about this very day about Bolsonaro, about how it was a foregone conclusion, and what, you know, what the streaming media and what the podcast media here in the United States, because the mainstream media will never talk about this, what we could do to then assist to make sure the sentence didn't come down so that it was President Bolsonaro sent to a prison, | ||
| of which he'll clearly be assassinated like Charlie, or die in prison. | ||
| So tell me about that. | ||
| Tell me about this. | ||
| This is a Black Mark Day against Brazil, which is one of the great countries in the world, how this all came about. | ||
| And then about coup d'etat and everything. | ||
| You challenged a stolen election, right? | ||
| Like President Trump did. | ||
| You challenged a stolen election, and yet they find President Bolsonaro guilty of a coup d'etat, sir. | ||
| Well, they did to President Bolsonaro what they wanted to do with President Trump. | ||
| So the case against Bolsonaro is almost a copy and paste of the law for use against Trump. | ||
| January 6th was framed as an insurrection in the United States. | ||
| Brazil had also a revolt on January 8th, two years later. | ||
| And it was instead of insurrection, they called an attempted coup. | ||
| And that's why they're convicting Bolsonaro. | ||
| And in Bolsonaro's case, the chargers are even weaker because he had already left office 10 days earlier and publicly condemned the protests as they happened. | ||
| And he was actually here in Florida in vacation. | ||
| So there's absolutely no evidence connecting him to the events of January 8th or to that crazy idea that was listening on your show, the clip on CNN. | ||
| And the only time I watched CNN, it's on your show. | ||
| They actually probably had more viewers now on your show than they had on their actual show. | ||
| But that's absolutely a lie. | ||
| He has no connection with any assassination attempt. | ||
| This is absolutely postposterous and ridiculous. | ||
| And he's being judged by a panel of just five justices. | ||
| The rapporteur is Alexander Moraes, the guy that looks like a James Bond villain that we all know, sanctioned under the Global Magninsky Act by Donald Trump. | ||
| He's a declared enemy of Bolsonaro. | ||
| That's the rapporteur of the case. | ||
| Then you have Justice Zanin, which is Lula's. | ||
| Believe it or not, that's true. | ||
| You cannot make this up. | ||
| It's Lula's personal lawyer that was appointed to the Supreme Court. | ||
| And then you have another justice, Dino, on the panel of five justices. | ||
| Justice Dino was Lula's minister of justice, and he actually has a criminal case of slandering against President Bolsonaro. | ||
| And he's, nevertheless, he's voting to convict Bolsonaro. | ||
| So with three openly conflicted judges, out of the four judges, out of the four votes that he got for conviction, one voted not guilty, but four that voted for his conviction, three are openly conflicted judges. | ||
| So it's possible. | ||
| There's no actual, it's a cangaru court, like you said. | ||
| There's no appeal. | ||
| Jack, there's no appeal. | ||
| Paula. | ||
| There's no one to appeal. | ||
| This is the Supreme Court. | ||
| No. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| No, we'll go to a sentence next week. | ||
| Hang on a second. | ||
| Jack, I want to bring you in here, given the irony that Charlie is assassinated the day before this comes out, given the work. | ||
| And people should understand the work behind the scenes Charlie Kirk did, which he did on so many projects, the work behind the scenes here on the Brazil and Bolsonaro situation was Herculean. | ||
| And so many of the things that have happened in a positive nature to assist Brazil has come through the work of Charlie. | ||
| But you guys have focused on this for a long time. | ||
| What would be Charlie's assessment, do you believe, of this very dark day for not just Brazil, but the Bolsonaro family? | ||
| Well, Steve, you know, just hearing the news, of course, seeing the court verdict, the ruling that's come out, but knowing Charlie the way I do, this is what Charlie would be doing. | ||
| Charlie would be picking up the phone right now and be calling every single person he knew at the State Department. | ||
| He'd be calling Darren. | ||
| He'd be calling Marco. | ||
| He'd be calling them all. | ||
| And he'd be saying, we need to do something about this. | ||
| We need to do something about this right now because it isn't right. | ||
| We need to put pressure. | ||
| We need to tie it to tariffs. | ||
| We need to do whatever we can to figure it out to make sure that this doesn't happen because that's who he was. | ||
| He'd be calling senators. | ||
| He'd be texting. | ||
| People don't understand how much Charlie did, as you say, Steve, behind the scenes. | ||
| People don't understand the grand chessboard that Charlie was involved in on a regular basis because all they see of Charlie is the on-camera and the TikTok, where, of course, he's an absolute master when he's on campus, but they don't see the behind the scenes that when Charlie sees something wrong, he immediately activates. | ||
| That's just what he does. | ||
| Jack, the sentence. | ||
| I mean, Paulo's right. | ||
| This is exactly what they try to do for Trump. | ||
| This is a death. | ||
| Do you agree with me? | ||
| This is a death sentence for President Bolsonaro? | ||
| Well, they already tried to kill Bolsonaro once. | ||
| We're now living through an era of political assassinations. | ||
| And so there's no question in my mind that they now want to get rid of political opponents, not by debate, not by conversation, but through the ultimate form of censorship. | ||
| Paulo, tell our audience, what can we expect? | ||
| A sentence comes down when? | ||
| What do you believe that the U.S. government needs to do to, you saw President Trump. | ||
| He says, hey, I don't think this is going to happen. | ||
| What do you think the White House and Trump administration need to do to at least either buy time or to shut this down? | ||
| Like you said, there's no appeal. | ||
| This is the Supreme Court of Brazil. | ||
| The only way out is that the Brazilian Congress is set to discuss an amnesty bill, which would be like a congressional pardon bill that would pardon not only President Bolsonaro, but everyone that has been politically persecuted since 2019. | ||
| That's in discussion right now in the Brazilian House and then will go to the Senate that would release President Bolsonaro and restore his political rights. | ||
| And that's the only path of him not dying, as you correctly said. | ||
| But isn't that a good question? | ||
| But hang on, but wouldn't you have to, but wouldn't you have to make a deal to basically get, I think the governor São Paulo, which is kind of a DeSantis figure to Bolsonaro's Trump, you'd have to make a deal to support him for the presidency that President Bolsonaro or Ed Wardo would not run for the presidency? | ||
| No, we don't think that's going to happen. | ||
| We think you were right about discussions happening about this, but there's no deal. | ||
| We're very confident that we can pass the bill in the House and the Senate if we get the support that we have been getting from the Trump administration, putting sanctions on not only Moraes, but also his family, who runs all his financial assets, and also on the other justice that convicted Bolsonaro today. | ||
| They are in conflict with the Global Magninski Act because they're in material support of a sanctioned individual. | ||
| So they have more than enough basis to sanction them. | ||
| Sometimes, obviously, although Secretary Basson has been great with this, the Treasury Department doesn't work fast enough for the speed we need things happening in Brazil. | ||
| But that's the way to go. | ||
| The United States, in the Venezuela case or in even the Panama case, they sanctioned hundreds of individuals and Brazil so far only had Morai sanctioned. | ||
| So the way to go, if you ask me, is not more tariffs. | ||
| Tariffs did what they were supposed to do in Brazil, but they need more sanctions on other individuals and they need to make sure the sanctions are enforced because right now we have a big problem in Brazil that they sanction Moraes, but the U.S. companies, the U.S. persons are not enforcing the sanctions. | ||
| So we have Moraes using, having his bank accounts still working, having U.S. companies still doing business with him. | ||
| He still has his iPhone. | ||
| He still has his Google account, his Gmail, his WhatsApp, which is MEDA. | ||
| He still has his iCloud account. | ||
| All this needs to be shut down by the Global Magnitsky Act. | ||
| And if the United States does not enforce sanctions against the violators, the sanctions lose their strength. | ||
| So I think it's a concern not only regarding Brazil, but a global concern. | ||
| So that's what we have been asking the Trump administration to do. | ||
| Although I have to say, we're very thankful they have been doing more than we could ever imagine thanks to these people that you mentioned and some other nice folks in the administration. | ||
| And obviously President Trump. | ||
| We have to sanction the judge's wife. | ||
| Got to sanction the wife. | ||
| He's got all the money and everything. | ||
| They sanction the wife and enforcing the wife. | ||
| You're going to see an attitude adjustment. | ||
| Paolo, where do people, they want to keep up with this? | ||
| Where do they go for your social media, sir? | ||
| They can go to Ad Rio P. Figuerido. | ||
| It's my last name. | ||
| They can find me pretty much everywhere. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Paolo, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| We look forward to keeping up on top of the story. | ||
| Very dark day in Brazil. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Thanks for having me. | ||
| The great irony is that Charlie Kirk is much work. | ||
| Charlie put so much work behind the scenes on this. | ||
| Very close to the Bolsonaro family. | ||
| Jack Basobic is with me. | ||
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| Cash Batel is en route to Utah. | ||
| The hunt for the assassin continues. | ||
| Jack Posobiec on the other side. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Welcome back. | ||
| Jack Basobic is with us. | ||
| So, Jack, Steve Crowder puts out some information this morning, says he got it from law enforcement officials as people that are in the media get scoops. | ||
| People do it all the time. | ||
| The Wall Street Journal backs that up a couple hours later, saying they talk to senior people with direct knowledge. | ||
| Now, this is a Wall Street Journal that goes through like 20 editors, direct knowledge of this matter, and kind of confirm what Steve Crowder and his team put out, which is that the bullets they found with the assassin's gun had radical tranny ideology on it, transgender ideology also had Antifa, your favorites, the guys you've combated now for almost a decade. | ||
| And now it looks like, I just saw something, it looks like Crowder's team and Crowder are going to get subpoenaed by the ATF to turn over documents. | ||
| Kash Patel's heading out here. | ||
| They canceled the briefing, the local police briefing. | ||
| What is going on in this search for the assassin, sir? | ||
| Well, Steve, that's exactly it. | ||
| They canceled the briefing earlier from the Utah Department of Public Safety. | ||
| It looks like that may be in conjunction with Cash and Dan Bongino's trip now out to Utah, where you're at right there. | ||
| Again, there's been a lot of information coming in fast and furious online. | ||
| People are furiously digging. | ||
| People are looking through socialist groups that are known to operate in this area in the Salt Lake City area, reports of groups that have been, that were known to be active back in 2020. | ||
| In fact, when this first happened, one of the very first things I thought of was that I remembered that Provost specifically had seen an interesting share of gun violence during the 2020 riots and the reporting that I had done on Antifa groups and particularly armed groups that were in the vicinity. | ||
| And of course, no fan of Charlie Kirk. | ||
| And so, you know, one place where a lot of people are starting to make their investigation. | ||
| Again, that's just social media. | ||
| We have no idea if that is a direct tie. | ||
| However, now that we hear this information from Crowder, now that we hear this information from the Wall Street Journal, it does seem like a place that would be a very good start to start looking. | ||
| They've also got photographs of different people, a person of interest, right? | ||
| And maybe we can get that up. | ||
| You've got a person of interest that looks like one of these Antifa types, correct? | ||
| They've got some other photos out there. | ||
| There's some confusion about the gun. | ||
| In fact, they're saying there's no, it looks like rifle in the picture. | ||
| This is a bolt action, high-powered rifle they're talking about. | ||
| They say they've actually have the weapon. | ||
| They have handprints. | ||
| There's footprints. | ||
| It was dropped off in some wooded area. | ||
| But he went to a, it looks like the guy, that person of interest went to a residential area for his escape. | ||
| They still haven't told us about whether the limited access to the roof. | ||
| You got some video of this figure in black running around. | ||
| I mean, do you directionally, Cash would not be coming out here unless they thought they had something. | ||
| And Cash, I think, feels he needs to lay hands on this investigation, given the high profile of it. | ||
| People are on edge. | ||
| Charlie being a legend, plus the fact that they already put out a couple of tweets yesterday or on, yeah, yesterday, where they said they actually had somebody in custody. | ||
| Your thoughts of the direction of this thing and why is Cash coming out here? | ||
| Well, Steve, I mean, the obvious, Charlie's family, and MAGA is a family. | ||
| And so this one hits close to home because this is someone who's a big part of our family. | ||
| But beyond that, I would even say that to anyone who thinks that he's making it more a priority than it should, this is an incredibly, incredibly line-shifting, line-crossing moment for the United States of America. | ||
| It feels like a line was crossed yesterday. | ||
| And are we going to be the country that continues to work out our differences through discussion, through talk, through debate? | ||
| That's all Charlie ever wanted to do. | ||
| Or have we now moved to the era of Luigi Maggioni, MAGA or Mangione? | ||
| And Steve, you and I have been warning for that for years. | ||
| And so one of the biggest, biggest things that can be done here, swift justice, swift retribution, so that no one gets to ever become another Mangione. | ||
| We've warned about this, but the left is continuing. | ||
| You look at some of the things, the hateful things that are set online. | ||
| And a lot of this is just not trolls. | ||
| What is shocking to me is the amount of people in positions of responsibility, particularly at universities, university faculty or people on school boards, in school districts, you know, the educated, progressive left elite, the hateful things they're saying about Charlie Kirk and Charlie Kirk's assassination is to me pretty blood-curdling, sir. | ||
| Steve, they're everywhere. | ||
| You're seeing him in the U.S. government. | ||
| You're seeing in these low-level employees. | ||
| They have infested our institutions and they've done so for years. | ||
| We've been talking about here in this program. | ||
| I wrote an entire book about it last year and people got mad at me for the title. | ||
| Well, there they are. | ||
| What other word could you possibly use to describe the action, celebrating the actions of what happened to Charlie yesterday? | ||
| What other words could you possibly use? | ||
| So I wrote unhumans because this is an unhuman reaction to what happened to Charlie. | ||
| And people can go see those videos. | ||
| And by the way, his son and his daughter are going to see those videos one day. | ||
| They will. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| And so that's going to be in their mental library of videos about their father. | ||
| And that's the only way that they're going to have permanent memories of their father through videos, including that one. | ||
| And you celebrate this? | ||
| You think this is something that you want to increase? | ||
| Unhuman. | ||
| Jack, can you hang on a second? | ||
| A couple of other things we got to clean up and discuss. | ||
| Some comments have been made that we need to make sure we set things right. | ||
| Bobby Kennedy will tell you, if you read the books Bobby Kennedy has written, if you listen to his interviews, you know, Bobby, now Secretary of Health and Human Services and a great guy, doing a great job. | ||
| He will tell you his days, particularly at Harvard and prep school and then after, he was not on the straight and arrow. | ||
| And one of the significant reasons not on the straight and narrow, his father assassinated, right? | ||
| Gunned down in cold blood. | ||
| The impact that has on a family, and particularly sons. | ||
| So Jack Bisovic being very prescient right there about Charlie's, I believe his little boy's only one year old, just over one. | ||
| Okay, the right stuff takes us out. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| Two minutes. | ||
| We'll be back. |
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