Sept. 12, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| To translate to action. | ||
| Listen, they think they have this theory that if they take out Trump and they get Tucker Carlson fired and they liquidate Alex Jones and they keep MTG off committees for a first term in Congress was unheard of. | ||
| Uh if they uh take away the law license, Rudy Giuliani and bankrupt one of the greatest men of this country, if they uh if they bankrupt uh the the the Hoffs over a gateway pundit and John Eastman, I can go down and down and down and get parents to go on a school boards intimidated, if they can go uh take the little Catholic churches, the Latin Mass Catholic churches and intimidate them. | ||
| If they they if if we just sit there and say, oh, woe is me, then we lose. | ||
| We're winning, we're ascended. | ||
| This movement's getting bigger every day. | ||
| Look at why did Joe Biden roll the dice in one of uh uh the debate President Trump on Thursday, five months before the before the campaign, simply because he's so far down, he's so far behind because African Americans, Hispanics, | ||
| Asian Americans, uh every people under 29 years old, everybody is coming to MAGA, two-thirds of the country to the MAGA, and they're coming because they understand that this is about taking their country back and stopping this invasion, stopping the forever war, stopping the madness on Capitol Hill. | ||
| Our movements ascended. | ||
| They think if they can decapitate that and do it with, you know, 50 negative pieces on Charlie Kirk and turning points terrible, and trust me, Charlie Kirk is gonna get an IRS investigation. | ||
| They're already, you know, I'm sure going after Charlie Kirk in every different aspect. | ||
| If we act like we're intimidated, they're gonna win. | ||
| Here's why I'm so look, would I rather not spend the next four months there? | ||
| Of course not, but it is what it is. | ||
| And here's what I know. | ||
| My team and our audience will step up to the plate. | ||
| That's why next man up, because this is a 20-year project to take our country back. | ||
| A lot of us are not gonna be around in a couple of years. | ||
| President Trump is 78 years old and had the burden of the world put on him, including uh being not just a company strip, but in a couple of weeks he's gonna have be uh as he's gonna be sentenced to prison. | ||
| Donald Trump, who gave us three and a half, four years of peace and prosperity as president. | ||
| This is how out of control it is. | ||
| Oh, what she's doing is she's trying to get out the visual and the idea of assassinating Donald Trump. | ||
| This is where this is headed. | ||
| I hope everyone understands. | ||
| Whether it's the Julius Caesar, yeah, Julius Caesar, Abraham Lincoln, John F. Kennedy, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King Jr., Bobby Kennedy, the assassinations of major political leaders are nothing new. | ||
| And yet we've kind of been immune to that for a couple of decades. | ||
| We have been warning about this for months. | ||
| Now, the very interesting question is will they try to kill Joe Biden or Donald Trump? | ||
| That's the interesting question. | ||
| Uh, which one right now is a bigger threat to them? | ||
| And that I'll let the audience kind of ruminate on that question. | ||
| But we've been worrying about this for quite some months. | ||
| This is why the next man up philosophy is so important and why we wanted to do the show with you, Steve, as a show of force. | ||
| Is that you take one out, a hundred more appear. | ||
| You take one out, a thousand more appear. | ||
| You take one out, ten thousand more appear. | ||
| You take one out, we give more money. | ||
| You take one out, we register more voters. | ||
| You take one out, is that it only actually makes us stronger. | ||
| You see, there are three different ways to analyze political movements or to categorize them. | ||
| There are the str there are the fragile, the durable, and the anti-fragile. | ||
| This is from Nassim Taleb, which is a phenomenal book. | ||
| The fragile. | ||
| The fragile is the Mitt Romney Republican Party. | ||
| That is the Paul Ryan Republican Party. | ||
| You say one bad word about them, they collapse, they bend a knee, they surrender, and they're relentlessly apologizing, and they're spineless. | ||
| Then there is the durable. | ||
| The durable is the best of the conservative movement prior to Donald Trump. | ||
| That would be uh the conservative movement that always held on and they put up a good point fight, had some fortitude, but didn't quite have enough to be able to endure the grind or the slog of the activist regime media. | ||
| And then there is the anti-fragile. | ||
| I include, I I encourage everyone to read the book, Anti-Fragile. | ||
| In the book Anti-Fragile, Nasim Taleb argues that there are very there are unique people, organizations, movements, restaurants, companies that actually get stronger the more pressure and opposition that is applied upon them. | ||
| And when you find an anti-fragile movement that their life force is actually What ends up being opposition. | ||
| That is Donald Trump. | ||
| Has anyone noticed that Donald Trump looks younger, stronger, more full of life and vitality after the indictments than before the indictments? | ||
| It gives him purpose, reason of being. | ||
| It gives him a telos, as the Greekers would say, or a teleological purpose for existence. | ||
| This movement that we are part of right now, that historians will write about for the next 1,000 years. | ||
| Let me say that again. | ||
| This movement that you are part of will be written about for the next millennia. | ||
| People do not remember the many movements from four or five hundred years ago, maybe a little bit here, English Revolution or whatever. | ||
| This movement will be written about for 1,000 years. | ||
| And when the history books are written, it will befuddle historians 600, 700, 800 years from now. | ||
| Why is it that the people that had so much to lose? | ||
| The Steve Bannons, the Peter Navarro's, the Donald Trumps, they kept on doubling and tripling down because full of fortitude and that resolute spirit. | ||
| We have the chance to influence the arc of history, as the left-winger Hegelians would always say. | ||
| The arc of history always bends towards justice. | ||
| How about this? | ||
| The arc of history will bend back towards citizen-led government, not subjects, not slaves. | ||
| And we will use this dark moment as they cart you off tomorrow, Steve, and put you in handcuffs, and we say goodbye for 123 days. | ||
| For 123 days, I will work harder than I ever have my entire life. | ||
| This is repulsive. | ||
| This is disgusting. | ||
| It is outrageous. | ||
| And it is a call to action for every citizen watching right now to do more. | ||
| You are not doing enough. | ||
| I am not doing enough because one of our on-field commanders is getting taken off for 123 days. | ||
| What are we going to do about it? | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| Here's one time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| MAGA media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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Warum. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Baff. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Baff. | ||
| It's Thursday, 11 September in the Year of Verlore 2025 to show you the um in all day. | ||
| We started uh at the morning show, and then uh with War Room, we had um Andrew and Tyler on, and then of course we tossed to the Charlie Kirk show, Jack Basobick and uh Andrew and Tyler, and that show was magnificent. | ||
| You had so many of uh folks that just can't do much TV now because they're in the government in certain areas. | ||
| You had uh Darren Beattie and others uh come on. | ||
| It was fantastic. | ||
| I think Speaker Johnson actually called up one to be on Raheem was on. | ||
| Um so all day you've gotten a good flavor of what we try to wanted to try to do is make sure that you got a sense of Charlie Kirk besides the public just persona you've seen Charlie making speeches or Charlie on TV and doing interviews. | ||
| But this one was so special because uh Jack and Charlie, given that they were going to have the 12 o'clock show, uh, were my, I think close to my last guest, if not my last guest, on uh the morning of one July in the year of the Lord 2024 when I was uh about to jump in an SUV with the late great Bernie Carrick and Eric Prince and go to uh Danbury Prison, which was right up the road from the hotel where we shot the morning show. | ||
| Look at Charlie's understanding. | ||
| It's it's very haunting, right? | ||
| I'm talking about next man up because hey, when I went to prison, I was very specific because you know, everybody that comes and works at the war room has to watch 12 o'clock high, which is all about next man up and about teams, right? | ||
| And we're in small organizations. | ||
| Yeah, I didn't give any instructions to Dave Brad or Natalie Winners or uh Peter Navarro wouldn't have a prison yet. | ||
| But to all the other, you know, Mike Davis and everybody else that pitched in and and you know took a four-hour show. | ||
| It's it's very tough to find host When you're on four hours a day, and particularly when you're split, two in the morning and two in the afternoon. | ||
| And the rule of thumb, folks should know in both radio and TV. | ||
| It's it's two or three hours of preparation for every one hour you're on air. | ||
| And in Rush Limba, I think laid out that. | ||
| And Rush had accumulation of such knowledge, so you can imagine for most people to kind of walk through the questions, the clips, uh, think through the issues, make sure you sound like you know what you're talking about. | ||
| So that's the preparation. | ||
| And I was about to go to prison for four months, and in this show, which was so vital as an organizing uh, you know, instrument uh for the grassroots for the precinct strategy and for uh at Tyler and every everything everybody was doing the grassroots uh level, and they took me out on purpose at that time. | ||
| You remember that. | ||
| They kind of gun decked the whole thing. | ||
| First of all, the whole thing was a joke, but they gun-decked the timing and and delayed the appeals for months and months and months, just so I would be taken out for those those 123 days right to the rumping election, only have a week left over. | ||
| And they didn't realize we could do a lot from federal prison to help organize. | ||
| But it was very important to me to know that the organization could go on uh if I was not there, because they are trying to take us out. | ||
| Remember, at the head of our movement, they were trying to put in federal prison. | ||
| And Charlie Kirk came on totally off the top of his head, just off of that uh what I had said and turned to him before I'm about to punch out for four months, and the burden's really gonna be on him and Jack, you know, with the Charlie Kirk show, | ||
| all of it, and lays out in it very hauntingly talks about the assassinations, talks about next man up, talks about the responsibility of it all, talks about how they're trying to they were trying to take out Trump, uh, and what purposes, and particularly Taleb's book, Anti-Fragile. | ||
| Talib had reached out to me after 16, after 16, to talk about the fact that the organization then, the Trump campaign then, the Trump movement then, the the rising movement Amaga was a anti uh was an anti-fragile organization. | ||
| He had this this guy was Arthur, he he he created the concept, the idea, was a massive bestseller, and people will tell you in business and finance, they studied this, and he says, you guys compared to Hillary Clinton and the Bush apparatus and everything Trump had taken on in the primaries. | ||
| You saw this anti-fragility, this resilience that you know you can't be beaten. | ||
| And what do I say on the on the show all the time? | ||
| It we're not gonna lose if we don't quit. | ||
| Also, is it Nick Ferretis or somebody had a great piece they put up on Twitter, and I I think I reposted it, that said if he finally came to the conclusion that the two sides are there's no commonality anymore, or not enough commonality to kind of bring the country together. | ||
| And he said he finally came to the conclusion one side's gonna win and one side's gonna lose. | ||
| That's absolutely the case. | ||
| There's no common ground. | ||
| Look at look at the mocking they've done of Charlie's horrific death. | ||
| Charlie Kirk, as fine as a young man as you could ever have, a a young man that as a young man, as someone in his twenties, with no college education. | ||
| Remember, no Ivy League education. | ||
| In fact, what inspired him was getting rejected by West Point. | ||
| So with no college education in the modern world where you have to have not just a college education, you have to go to, if you don't go in an Ivy League school or an Ivy Equivalent or public Ivy, like University of Michigan or Wisconsin or UVA, you know, you can't get ahead in the world. | ||
| He had put together an organization, and he had done as much in his twenties. | ||
| You you have to really go back, you have to go back to the revolutionary generation. | ||
| You have to go back to Hamilton and Jefferson and uh in Madison and Monroe and all these. | ||
| You have to go back to what they accomplished to see the impact of somebody in their twenties. | ||
| And right there with the brilliance just off the top of his head, with the clock ticking down for me, and hey, you don't know we might never ever see each other again. | ||
| Right? | ||
| You don't know, some 70-year-old guy is heading to federal prison. | ||
| You don't know what's going to happen. | ||
| And Charlie, right there, just as a passion. | ||
| I remember finishing that, and when we toss and the Charlie Kirk show took off at noon that always followed us on Real America's Voice. | ||
| I remember getting in the vehicle with uh Bernie Carrick, the late and great Bernie Kerrick, who remember used to do every 9-11 show with Bernie and Rudy. | ||
| And uh Eric Prince. | ||
| And you know, we talked one a couple minutes before we went to the little press conference outside, and then they they actually got in the vehicle with me and went up to the actual prison. | ||
| Actually, into the prison gates itself where I was actually taken into prison. | ||
| And I said, um we don't have to worry, we got this. | ||
| It's not just the next man up of Natalie Winners and Mike Davis and Dave Bratt. | ||
| And uh Ben Harnwell and all the great people that pitch in our great production team. | ||
| So Charlie and Jack. | ||
| They really get it at a very deep level. | ||
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A very deep and profound level. | |
| Uh that individual was assassinated. | ||
| Executed, I might say, in cold blood, in front of the world. | ||
| With his dyed with his boots on, doing what he loved best, debating. | ||
| The exchange of ideas and convincing people to see the light. | ||
| Air Force Two has landed. | ||
| They're not really showing video of it, but Air Force Two has landed to take Charlie's remains to Phoenix. | ||
| And Cash Patel, the head of the FBI, is in route out here to where we are, Utah. | ||
| All next in the war room. | ||
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| Okay, media that used by the martyr of Charlie Kirk. | ||
| I think it's terrible. | ||
| They ought to be ashamed of themselves. | ||
| Why haven't they found the shooter yet, Mr. President? | ||
| Are you concerned that it's been 24 hours? | ||
| Well, I hear they're making big progress, and we'll have to see what happens. | ||
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Do you have any indication of the shooter's motivation, sir? | |
| Uh I have an indication, yeah, but we'll let you know about that later. | ||
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You spoke with uh president. | |
| And last Sunday, you sent grittens to Kazakhstan. | ||
| Uh UN General Assembly is upcoming. | ||
| Are you going to pr uh meet with the presidents of Central Asian countries? | ||
| President Where? | ||
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Central Asian countries, Kazakhstan was back as well. | |
| I will be, yeah. | ||
| They're very good people. | ||
| And I will be doing that, yes. | ||
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What's your reaction? | |
| Do you believe that Kildarek is a trained assassin? | ||
| Usually your instincts are always on. | ||
| Uh I'd rather not say. | ||
| I think progress is being made. | ||
| Uh he's an animal, total animal. | ||
| And hopefully they'll have him and uh they'll get him. | ||
| What he did is disgraceful. | ||
| Charlie Kirk was a great person, a great man. | ||
| Uh great in every way, especially with youth. | ||
| And what he did, what this man did was disgraceful. | ||
| So hopefully we'll have him and we will deal with him very appropriately. | ||
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What's the reaction to the reaction to Russian drone incursion into Poland? | |
| Uh could have been a mistake. | ||
| Could have been a mistake, but regardless, uh, I'm not happy about anything having to do with that whole situation. | ||
| But hopefully it's gonna come to an end. | ||
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So that was just found guilty by the Supreme Court. | |
| You've been very clear that you would apply sanctions. | ||
| Are you thinking further sanctions to Brazil because of these Bolsonaro? | ||
| Well, I watched that trial. | ||
| I know him pretty well. | ||
| Uh foreign leader. | ||
| He's a good, I thought he was a good president of Brazil. | ||
| And it's very surprising that that could happen. | ||
| That's very much like they tried to do with me, but they didn't get away with it at all. | ||
| But uh, I can always say this. | ||
| I knew him as president of Brazil. | ||
| He was a good man, and I don't see that happening. | ||
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I'm very sorry for your loss. | |
| Everybody's off. | ||
| I'm very sorry for your loss, first of all. | ||
| How do you think uh Israel's attack in Doha will affect a hostage deal? | ||
| Uh you better say it a little bit. | ||
| Well, where are you from? | ||
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I'm from Israel. | |
| It's not a four thing is like a bigger one. | ||
| Go ahead, do it again. | ||
| Do it again. | ||
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Okay. | |
| How do you think Israel's attacking Doha will affect the hostage deal? | ||
| Well, hopefully it won't affect it at all. | ||
| We want the hostages out. | ||
| And we want them out soon. | ||
| Hopefully it won't affect it. | ||
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I can go over the loss of the trend. | |
| Oh, you were holding up for the last three and a half days. | ||
| I think very good. | ||
| And by the way, right there, you see all the trucks. | ||
| They've just started construction of the new borough for the White House. | ||
| Which is something they've been trying to get, as you know, for about 150 years. | ||
| And it's going to be a beauty. | ||
| It'll be an absolute magnificent construction. | ||
| And I guess we all the trucks we just started. | ||
| It'll get done very nicely and it'll be one of the best anywhere in the world, actually. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Your message is out there. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That was a gaggle at the White House a little while ago. | ||
| The President is on Air Force One heading to New York City. | ||
| He will attend a uh Yankees game tonight in the uh owner's box. | ||
| President Trump, a longtime Yankees fan and very close to George Steinburner, the uh father of the uh current uh ownership team. | ||
| Air Force Two has arrived in Salt Lake City, Utah. | ||
| We're actually here in Utah, uh across from the state capitol. | ||
| Uh tomorrow, we're actually going to um tomorrow we're actually going to try to uh do the show in a more remote location, uh, maybe even closer to the activity of what happened the other day. | ||
| All that's in flux. | ||
| Um influx is all the arrangements for Charlie Kirk. | ||
| Charlie Kirk's remains are being uh taken by Air Force Two, uh, I think shortly, and uh and taken to Phoenix. | ||
| His wife Erica and the team and um Tyler and Andrew and the team that were on the uh show this morning, and then were with uh Charlie were with um Jack Basobic at noon doing the Charlie Kirk show. | ||
| Um Cash Patel. | ||
| It's being reported, uh, the Independent of London has it, uh, that Cash Patel, the director of the FBI, just heard the president there right there saying they think we made real progress. | ||
| Cash Patel, the head of the FBI, I think is currently in route to Utah also as the search for the assassin and potentially accomplices. | ||
| And there's a lot of rumors flying around, a lot uh going on. | ||
| Although I just saw something I think looks legit. | ||
| Steve Crowder and his team this morning did break uh scoops that they said they had, I think, from unnamed, he didn't say ATF, but unnamed federal officials that appeared to coincide with uh what the Wall Street Journal reported about the bullets, | ||
| uh some of the bullets having uh transgender ideology written on it, and uh, I think Antifa and supposedly he's gotten um subpoenaed uh already, he and his team about where they got the information. | ||
| Anyway, we'll try to break all that down. | ||
| Poso is going to join us. | ||
| He'd give him some other interviews right now. | ||
| I think Poso is also gonna be on Laura Ingram tonight. | ||
| So Jack Basobic um doing the duty, the media duty. | ||
| In the tragedy thing about the tragedy of 9-11, which we're commemorating, uh, and uh we're gonna try to do more of that in in in the next couple hours because we couldn't didn't have enough time actually to to cover it normally. | ||
| We'd we do an entire show on on 9-11. | ||
| Uh, given the horrific tragedy of Charlie Kirk, another tragedy today that you know you're just gonna have to embrace because this is a global revolution and what this is a global movement, and President Trump's inspired it. | ||
| It's all over the planet. | ||
| In Brazil, I would argue one of our strongest partners and some of the best people in the world, the Bolsonaro family and their their associates around them. | ||
| Uh horrible news out of ball out of uh out of Brazil, of which we warned you it was coming. | ||
| Bolsonaro with that kangaroo court uh was found guilty today. | ||
| So let's go ahead. | ||
| We got a clip, and then we've got uh Paulo Fergardo is gonna join us. | ||
| News out of Brazil. | ||
| The country's Supreme Court has just voted to convict former President Yair Bolsonaro of planning to overturn the country's 2022 election. | ||
| CNN's Julia Vargas Jones is live in Los Angeles with some more on this. | ||
| Uh Julia, what can you tell us? | ||
| Brianna, just moments ago we heard that decision. | ||
| Uh the charges that he was found guilty of at coup d'etat taking part in an armed criminal organization attempting to abolish Brazil's democratic order by force damaging protective property. | ||
| That was all during Brazil's very own January 6th, and all of the moments and the planning that led up to that moment on January 8, 2023. | ||
| Prosecutors accusing Bolsonaro not just of organizing the being the head of a criminal organization, but also attempting, planning to assassinate the now sitting president, then president-elect of Brazil, Luis Inassio, Lula da Silva, his vice president, as well as one of the Supreme Court justices, the very justice that this week led the trial against him and seven other of his close allies. | ||
| Brianna, this trial has been the focus of a diplomatic spat between Brazil and the United States. | ||
| It has cost Brazil 50 percent tariffs on all goods imported to the United States. | ||
| The big question where we're looking at now is what other retaliation could come from the United States in coming days as this verdict has now been not quite reached. | ||
| But as the Supreme Court has come to a majority to uh condemn President former President Jerry Bolsonaro, he could face 40 years in prison. | ||
| Now it could take still some weeks until he is taken. | ||
| He is already under house arrest and barred from running for office until 2030 on separate matters. | ||
| It has to do with questioning the validity of the elections prior to the 2022 election. | ||
| All of this uh coming to a head today, Brianna, as we heard from a justice as she cast cast the final vote. | ||
| I just want to tell you from Justice Carmen Lucia, she said Brazil is only worth it because we can protect democracy, and that's what the justices said they were doing today. | ||
| It is quite a controversial trial, I have to say. | ||
| President Jair Bolsonaro still has a lot of support from a big portion of the population in Brazil. | ||
| And this has caused so much division. | ||
| We'll see what comes in the days ahead. | ||
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Bolsonaro was just found guilty by the Supreme Court. | |
| You've been very clear that you would apply sanctions. | ||
| Are you thinking further sanctions to Brazil because of this Bolsonaro? | ||
| Well, I watched that trial. | ||
| I know him pretty well. | ||
| Foreign leader. | ||
| I thought he was a good president of Brazil. | ||
| And it's very surprising that that could happen. | ||
| That's very much like they tried to do with me, but they didn't get away with it at all. | ||
| But I can only say this. | ||
| I knew him as president of Brazil. | ||
| He was a good man. | ||
| And I don't see that happening. | ||
| What has happened in Brazil is exactly, exactly what they try to do here in the United States. | ||
| They had, what, 91 indictments on President Trump. | ||
| It was going to be 350, 390 years in prison. | ||
| They wanted President Trump to die in prison. | ||
| If you listen to him now, they are upset that they didn't move that forward and close the deal. | ||
| This is why Charlie Kirk's so important. | ||
| This is why we're anti-fragile. | ||
| Having been the election stolen and President Trump driven from Washington, D.C. In those years in the wilderness, when they came after President Trump, they came after everybody. | ||
| De-bank, de-platform, all of it from the tech companies, from the financial companies. | ||
| They tried to destroy this movement and everybody around Trump. | ||
| And now today in Brazil, they've come to a decision. | ||
| And they're going to put a verdict on him or a sentence on him to have Bolsonaro go to prison and to die in prison. | ||
| This is how vicious they are. | ||
| Did I mention that Charlie Kirk was assassinated, executed in cold blood in broad daylight? | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Brazil and Basovic next in the war room. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance. | |
| Well, Figueroa joins us now, one of our great associates down in Brazil, a very close advisor to the Bolsonaro family. | ||
| I might add the 50 percent terrorist that were perpetrated. | ||
| reporter talked about. | ||
| I keep saying 30% of that, I think is 30 to 40% is about President Bolsonaro, 10%, I think is a uh a wake-up call for Lula about uh the uh BRICS and the de-dollarization program. | ||
| This is why go to Birchgold.com uh slash abandoned the end of the dollar empire, get up to speed on all of it, everything that's uh important uh regarding the U.S. dollar as a prime reserve currency and why the BRICS nations are the enemy of the world financial system predicated on the dollar. | ||
| Paula, uh first off, Paulo, this has been tough sledding for you because you were quite close to Charlie. | ||
| Talk to us about your relationship and with Charlie Kirk and Charlie's concern and interest in Brazil. | ||
| Well, uh years ago, when Brazil was still off the radar of international press, and Mora's dictatorship seemed too distant a problem. | ||
| Um, Charlie uh it was pretty much just Charlie and you already standing up in our defense. | ||
| Uh Charlie was one of the first to open space on his uh Charlie Kirk show to denounce what was going on in Brazil. | ||
| So he he cared about the country. | ||
| And I can say without a hesitation that without he without Charlie Charlie, Brazil would never have reached the point of securing sanctions against Alexander Moraes and other justices. | ||
| So everyone in Brazil is very grateful for him. | ||
| He also in 2023, when President Bolsonaro was uh in the United States for a couple of months. | ||
| Um Charlie made a point of showing that his solidarity was not mere rhetoric. | ||
| Uh he organized a major event for him in the Trump Hotel here in Miami. | ||
| I was there with him. | ||
| We had dinner together. | ||
| It was great. | ||
| So Charlie was not only an American patriot, though he was uh obviously one with uh unmatched intensity, but he was one of the fiercest defended uh defenders of the American first creed, which is true, but he was also uh he saw that the we had to defend uh the whole hemisphere and the Western civilization. | ||
| So also because he was a devoted Christian, a man of faith, uh with firm principles, moral courage. | ||
| So he loved freedom not merely as a political banner, but as an expression of the dignity uh God grants to have every human being. | ||
| So he was very concerned about the situation on Brazil. | ||
| And he was one of the uh the first to ask for tariffs and sanctions on Brazil and on Moraes uh for the Trump administration. | ||
| So we'll be forever grateful. | ||
| He was work he was working behind the scenes with you guys in Edward uh and and the great Vince Haley and uh and Darren Beattie, uh Vince at the White House and Darren over at uh at the State Department to do this. | ||
| Also, Charlie and I talked, I think Jack too, uh, about knowing this and the irony that he was assassinated yesterday, because we talked about this very day about Bolsonaro, about how his foregone conclusion, and what you know, what the streaming media and what the podcast media here in the United States, | ||
| because the mainstream media will never talk about this, what we could do to then assist to make sure that the the sentence didn't come down so that it was President Bolsonaro sent to a prison, of which will clearly be assassinated, like Charlie, or uh die in prison. | ||
| So tell me about that. | ||
| Tell me about this. | ||
| This is this is a this is a black mark day against Brazil, which is one of the great countries in the world, how this all came about, and then uh about coup d'etat and everything. | ||
| You challenged a stolen election, right? | ||
| Like President Trump did. | ||
| You challenged a stolen election, and yet they find uh President Bolsonaro guilty of uh of a coup d'etat, sir. | ||
| Well, they did to President Bolsonaro what they wanted to do with President Trump. | ||
| So the case is case against Bolsonaro, it's almost a copy and paste of the offer use against Trump. | ||
| Uh January 6th was framed as an insurrection in the United States. | ||
| Brazil had a uh Also a revolt uh on January 8th, two years later, and uh it was instead of insurrection, they called an attempted coup, and that's why they're convicting Bolsonaro. | ||
| And in Bolsonaro's case, the chargers are even weaker because he had already left office 10 days earlier and publicly condemned the protests as they happened, and he was actually here in Florida in vacation. | ||
| So there's absolutely no evidence connecting him to the events of January 8th or to that crazy idea that was uh listening uh on your show, the the clip on CNN, and the only time I watched CNN uh it's on your show. | ||
| They actually probably had more viewers now on your show that they had on their actual show. | ||
| Uh, but that's absolutely a lie. | ||
| He has no connection with any assassination attempt. | ||
| This is absolutely presposterous and ridiculous. | ||
| And he's being judged by a panel of just five justices. | ||
| The rapporteur is Alexander Moraes, the guy that looks like a James Bond villain that we all know, sanctioned uh under the Global Magnancy Act by Donald Trump, is a declared enemy of Bolsonaro. | ||
| That's the rapture of the case. | ||
| Then you have Justice Zanine, which is Lula's, believe it or not, it's that's true. | ||
| You cannot make this up. | ||
| Is Lula's personal lawyer that was appointed to the Supreme Court, and then you have another justice Dino on the penal five justices? | ||
| Justice Dino was Lula's uh minister of justice, and he actually has a criminal case of slandering against President Bolsonaro, and he's nevertheless he's voting to convict Bolsonaro. | ||
| So, with three openly conflicted judges out of the four judges of the four votes that he got for conviction, one uh voted not guilty, but a four that voted for his conviction, three are openly conflicted judges. | ||
| So it's possible, there's just no actual it's a kangaroo court, like you said. | ||
| There's no appeal. | ||
| Jack, uh there's no appeal, Paula. | ||
| No one to appeal. | ||
| This is the Supreme Court. | ||
| No, yes. | ||
| No, this is we'll go to a sentence next week. | ||
| Hang on a second. | ||
| Jack, I want to bring you in here, given the irony that Charlie is assassinated the day before this comes out, given the work, and people should understand the work behind the scenes Charlie Kirk did, which he did on so many projects, the work behind the scenes here on the Brazil and Bolsonaro situation was Herculean. | ||
| And so many of the things that have happened in a positive nature to assist Brazil uh has come through the work of Charlie. | ||
| But but but you guys have focused on this uh for a long time. | ||
| What what would be Charlie's assessment, do you believe, of this very dark day for not just Brazil but the Bolsonaro family? | ||
| Well, Steve, um, you know, just hearing the news, of course, seeing the court uh verdict, the ruling that's come out, but knowing Charlie the way I do, this is what Charlie would be doing. | ||
| Charlie would be picking up the phone right now and be calling every single person he knew at the State Department, he'd be calling Darren, he'd be calling Marco, he'd be calling them all, and he'd be saying we need to do something about this. | ||
| We need to do something about this right now because it isn't right. | ||
| We need to put pressure, we need to tie it to tariffs, you need to do whatever we can to figure it out to make sure that this doesn't happen, because that's who he was. | ||
| He'd be calling senators, he'd be texting. | ||
| People don't understand how much Charlie did as you say, Steve, behind the scenes. | ||
| People don't understand the grand chessboard that Charlie was involved in on a regular basis because all they see of Charlie is the uh on camera and the TikTok, where of course he's an absolute master when he's on campus, but they don't see the behind the scenes that when Charlie sees something wrong, he immediately activates. | ||
| That's just what he does. | ||
| Jack, uh the sentence. | ||
| I mean, this Paulo's right, this is exactly what they try to do for Trump. | ||
| This is a death. | ||
| Do you agree with me? | ||
| This is a death sentence for President Bolsonaro. | ||
| Well, they already tried to kill Bolsonaro once. | ||
| We're we're now living through an era of political assassinations. | ||
| And so there's there's no question in my mind that they now want to get rid of political opponents, not by debate, not by conversation, but through the ultimate form of censorship. | ||
| Paulo, uh, tell our audience what can we expect? | ||
| A sentence comes down when what what do you believe that the U.S. government needs to do to you saw President Trump. | ||
| He says, Hey, I don't think this is gonna happen. | ||
| What do you think the White House and Trump administration need to do to at least either buy time or to shut this down? | ||
| Like you said, there's no appeal. | ||
| This is the Supreme Court of Brazil. | ||
| The only way out is that the Brazilian Congress is set to discuss an amnesty bill, which would be like a congressional pardon bill that would pardon not only President Bolsonaro, but everyone that has been politically uh persecuted since 2019. | ||
| That's in discussion right now in the Brazilian House, and then we'll go to the Senate. | ||
| That would release President Bolsonaro and restore his political rights. | ||
| And that's the only path uh of him not dying, as as you correctly said. | ||
| Um isn't that but isn't it but hang on, but is it but wouldn't you have to but but wouldn't you have to make a deal to basically get I think the governor Sao Paulo, which is kind of a DeSantis figure to Bolsonaro's Trump, you'd have to make a deal to support him for the presidency that that pre President Bolsonaro or Ed Wardo were not run for the presidency. | ||
| No, we don't we don't think that's gonna happen. | ||
| We think uh you were right about discussions happening about this, but there's no deal. | ||
| Uh we are uh can we're very confident that we can pass the bill in the House and the Senate if we get the support that we have been getting from the Trump administration, putting sanctions on not only Moraes but also his family, who uh runs all his financial assets, and also on the other justice that convicted Bolsonaro today. | ||
| Uh they're in conflict with the Global Magnanski Act because they're in a material support of a sanctioned individual. | ||
| So they have more than enough basis to uh to sanction them. | ||
| Uh sometimes, obviously, uh although Secretary Bassin has been great with this, uh the Treasury Department doesn't work fast enough uh uh for the speed we need things happening in Brazil. | ||
| But that's the that's the way to go. | ||
| Uh the United States, in the Venezuela case or in even the Panama case, they sanctioned hundreds of individuals, and Brazil so far only had Moray sanctioned. | ||
| So the way to go, uh if you ask me, is not more tariffs. | ||
| Tariffs uh did what they were supposed to do in Brazil, but they need uh more sanctions on other individuals, and they need to make sure the sanctions are enforced because right now we have a big problem in Brazil that they sanctioned Moraes, but the U.S. companies, the U.S. persons are not enforcing the sanctions. | ||
| So we have Moraes using having his bank accounts is still working, having US uh companies still doing business with him. | ||
| He still has his iPhone, he still has his uh Google account, his Gmail, his uh WhatsApp, which is MADA, he still has his iCloud account. | ||
| All this need to shut be shut down uh by the Global Magninski Act. | ||
| And if the United States does not enforce sanctions against the violators, the sanctions lose their strength. | ||
| So it's uh I think it's a concern not only regarding Brazil, but a global concern. | ||
| So that's what we have been asking the Trump administration to do. | ||
| Although I have to say we're very thankful they have been doing more than we could ever imagine, uh, thanks to these people that you you mentioned and some other uh nice folks in the administration, and obviously President Trump. | ||
| We have to say we have to sanction uh the judge's wife. | ||
| Got to sanction the wife. | ||
| He's got all the money and the everything to sanction the wife and enforcing the wife. | ||
| You're gonna see it, you're gonna see an attitude adjustment. | ||
| Paulo, where do people they want to keep up with this? | ||
| Where do they go for your social media, sir? | ||
| They can go uh to at Rio P. Figueiredo. | ||
| It's my last name. | ||
| Um, they can uh find me pretty much everywhere. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Paulo, thank you so much uh for joining us. | ||
| We look forward to keeping uh keeping up on top of the story. | ||
| Very dark day in Brazil. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Thanks for having me. | ||
| The great irony is that Charlie Kirk is much work, Charlie put so much work behind the scenes on this. | ||
| Very close to the Bolsonaro family. | ||
| Jack Basovic's with me. | ||
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| Cash Patel is in route to Utah. | ||
| The hunt for the assassin continues. | ||
| Jack Posobiec on the other side. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | |
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| Welcome back. | ||
| Uh Jack Pasobic is with us. | ||
| So, Jack, um Steve Crowder puts out uh some information this morning, says he got it from a law enforcement officials as people that are in the media get scoops, people do it all the time. | ||
| The Wall Street Journal backs that up a couple hours later saying they talk to senior people with direct knowledge. | ||
| Now, this is a Wall Street Journal that goes through like 20 editors, direct knowledge of this matter, and kind of confirm what Steve Crowder and his team put out, which is that the bullets uh uh they found with the Assassin's Gun had uh radical um uh tranny um you know ideology on it, transgender ideology also had uh Antifa, your favorites, the guys you've combated now for almost a decade. | ||
| Um and now it looks like I I just saw something. | ||
| It looks like Crowder's team and Crowder are going to get subpoenaed by the ATF uh to turnover documents. | ||
| Cash Patel's heading out here. | ||
| They canceled the briefing, the local police briefing. | ||
| What is going on in this uh search for the assassin, sir? | ||
| Well, Steve, that's exactly it. | ||
| Uh they canceled the briefing earlier from uh the Utah Department of Public Safety. | ||
| Um it looks at the big like that may be in conjunction with Cash and Dan Bogino's uh trip now out to Utah where you're at right there. | ||
| Uh again, there's been a lot of information coming in fast and furious online. | ||
| Uh people are furiously digging, people are looking through uh socialist groups that are known to operate in this area in the Salt Lake City area, reports of groups that have been um that were known to be active back in 2020. | ||
| In fact, when this first happened, uh one of the very first things I thought of was that I remembered that Provost specifically had seen an interesting share of gun violence during the 2020 riots and the reporting that I had done on Antifa groups and particularly armed groups that were in the vicinity, and of course, no fan of Charlie Kirk. | ||
| And so, you know, one place where a lot of people are starting to make their investigation. | ||
| Again, you know, that's that's just social media. | ||
| We have no idea uh if that is a direct tie. | ||
| However, um now that we hear this information from Crowder, now that we hear this information from the Wall Street Journal, it does seem like a place that would be a very good start to start looking. | ||
| They've also got photographs of of different people, a person of interest, right? | ||
| And maybe we can get that up. | ||
| You got a person of interest that looks like one of these Antifa types, correct? | ||
| Um they've got some other photos out there. | ||
| There's some confusion about the gun. | ||
| Uh in fact, they're saying there's no uh looks like rifle in the in the picture. | ||
| This is a bolt action high-powered rifle they're talking about. | ||
| They say they've actually have the weapon. | ||
| They have hand prints, there's footprints. | ||
| It was dropped off in some wooded area, but he went to a uh the it looks like the uh the guy that person of interest uh went to a uh residential area for his escape. | ||
| Um they still haven't told us about whether the limited access to the roof. | ||
| You got some video of this figure in black running around. | ||
| I mean, do you directionally cash would not be coming out here unless they thought they had something, and cash, I think feels he needs to lay hands on this investigation given the high profile of it, people are on edge. | ||
| Charlie being uh uh a legend, plus the fact that they already put out a couple of uh tweets uh yesterday or on on uh yeah, yesterday, where they said they actually had somebody in custody. | ||
| Um your thoughts of The direction of this thing and and why is cash coming out here. | ||
| Well, Steve, I mean, the obvious uh Charlie's family and MAGA is a family, and so this one hits close to home because this is someone who's a big part of our family. | ||
| But beyond that, I would even say that to anyone who thinks that he's making it uh you know more priority than it should. | ||
| Uh, this is an incredibly, incredibly line shifting, line crossing moment for the United States of America. | ||
| It feels like a line was crossed yesterday. | ||
| And are we going to be the country that continues to work out our differences through discussion, through talk, through debate? | ||
| That's all Charlie ever wanted to do, or have we now moved to the era of Luigi Magioni? | ||
| MAGA or Magione. | ||
| And Steve, you and I have been warning for that for years. | ||
| And so one of the biggest, biggest things that can be done here, swift justice, swift retribution, so that no one gets to be ever become another Magioni. | ||
| Um we've warned about this, but the left is continuing. | ||
| You look at some of the uh the things, the hateful things that are set online, and a lot of this is just not trolls. | ||
| What is shocking to me is the amount of people in positions of responsibility, particularly at universities, university faculty or people on um people on school boards in school districts, you know, the the educated progressive left elite, the hateful things they're saying about Charlie Kirk and Charlie Kirk's assassination, uh, is to me pretty blood curdling, sir. | ||
| Steve, they're everywhere. | ||
| You're seeing him in the U.S. government, you're seeing in low these low-level employees. | ||
| They have infested our institutions and they've done so for years. | ||
| Uh, we've been talking about here in this program. | ||
| I wrote an entire book about it last year, and people got Mount of B for the title. | ||
| Well, there they are. | ||
| What other word could you possibly use to describe the action celebrating the actions of what happened to Charlie yesterday? | ||
| What other words could you possibly use? | ||
| So I wrote unhumans because this is an unhuman reaction to what happened to Charlie. | ||
| And people can go see those videos. | ||
| And by the way, his son and his daughter are going to see those videos one day. | ||
| They will. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And so that's going to be in their mental library of videos about their father. | ||
| And that's the only way that they're going to have permanent memories of their father through videos, including that one. | ||
| and you celebrate this you think this is something that you want to increase unhuman jackie hang on a second a couple of other things we got to clean up uh and and discuss Some comments have been made that uh we need to make sure we set things right. | ||
| Bobby Kennedy will tell you if you if you read the books of Bobby Kennedy's written, if you listen to his interviews, you know, Bobby, now Secretary of Health and Human Services, and a great guy doing a great job, he will tell you his days, particularly at Harvard and prep school, and then after, uh, he was not on the straight and arrow. | ||
| And one of the significant reasons on the straight and narrow, his father assassinated, right? | ||
| Gunned down in cold blood. | ||
| The impact that has on a family and particularly sons. | ||
| So Jack Basobick being very pressing right there by Charlie's, I believe his little boy's only one year old, just over one. | ||
| Okay, the right stuff takes us out. | ||
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