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Sept. 11, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
01:48:39
Episode 4770: Charlie Kirk: The America First Martyr
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andrew colvett
26:50
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dave brat
08:00
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donald j trump
06:31
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jack posobiec
06:10
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steve bannon
24:38
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tyler bowyer
17:26
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charlie kirk
03:47
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robert bohls
01:14
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unidentified
Will be brought to justice.
In 2001, the world echoed, never forget.
In my opinion, the victims will have died in vain if those responsible are not held accountable.
As always, may
God bless our first responders, September 11th victims, our military here and abroad.
May God bless us, freedom of speech, and may God bless America.
And my brother, Kevin L. Bowser from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
We will never forget him and all of our loved ones we lost that day.
This is history that brings us all together.
History is the heart and soul of our lives.
We must protect it and never forget it.
God bless America.
Jeffrey Brian Gardner.
Thomas A. Gardner.
William Arthur Gardner.
Frank Garfield.
Rocco Nino Gargano.
James M. Vartenberg.
Matthew David Garvey.
Bruce Gary.
Boyd Allen Gattan.
Donald Richard Gabigan Jr.
Peter Allen Ye Terence D. Gazzini.
Gary Paul Guidel.
Paul Hamilton Geyer.
Julie M. Geis.
Peter Gerard Gelinus.
Stephen Paul Geller.
Howard G. Gelling Jr.
Peter Victor Gango Jr.
steve bannon
At 9:59 a.m. Eastern Daylight Time.
unidentified
Of course, the first tower came down 24 years ago today.
It is Thursday, 11 September, the year of our Lord 2025.
There's obviously a lot going on today.
At the Pentagon, President Trump just had very moving remarks about 9-11 about the Pentagon hit, but also added Charlie Kirk.
We're live from Utah today.
Andrew Covet is going to join us.
We can go ahead and get Andrew Andrews here with us.
steve bannon
We'll get him set up.
Let's cut two.
unidentified
Let's play President Trump at the Pentagon where we get.
Please let's go live to President Trump.
Just hang on.
He wheeled a lieutenant out of the wreckage on the back of a maintenance car before getting in the ambulance and taking him to Walter Reed Hospital.
That man Steve saved, Lieutenant Kevin Schaefer, went on to join the elite team of CIA operatives who located Osama bin Laden.
Steve, you're an American hero.
We appreciate it.
We appreciate what you've gone through.
Please stand.
Please stand.
Where are you?
Oh, good-looking man.
You're a good-looking guy.
donald j trump
You remember that day.
unidentified
You remember that day.
Good.
Thank you very much, Steve.
donald j trump
That was something.
unidentified
That was something.
In the years that followed, America's Warriors Avenged are fallen and sent an unmistakable message to every enemy around the world.
If you attack the United States of America, we will hunt you down and we will find you.
We'll go all over this sometimes magnificent earth.
We will crush you without mercy and we will triumph without question.
That's why we named the former Department of Defense the Department of War.
It will be different.
We won the First World War.
donald j trump
We won the Second World War.
unidentified
We won everything before that and in between.
And then we decided to change the name.
Well, now we have it back to where we all want it.
Everybody wanted it.
donald j trump
Everybody is so happy to have it back.
unidentified
You will fail, and America will win, win, win.
donald j trump
The enemy will always fail.
24 years have passed since that Tuesday morning in September, and an entire generation of Americans have come of age in a totally different world.
unidentified
While they cannot remember the agony of that day, they are carrying on the legacy of those who lost.
Around 8:30 a.m. on the morning of the attacks, Army Lieutenant Colonel Kip Taylor sent an email to his friends and family describing the joys of fatherhood and his excitement for the upcoming birth of his unborn son.
He wrote, After you have kids, there are days that you just get going and you say, Hi, honey, I'm home.
What we do until that moment pales in comparison, but just that little statement, hi, honey, so American, so beautiful.
But that's really the point of it all, isn't it?
An hour after he sent that email, Flight 77 flew into Colonel Taylor's Pentagon office and claimed the life of a very proud father and true patriot.
Six weeks later, on October 25th, 2001, Colonel Taylor's son, Luke, was born.
Luke then tragically lost his mom to cancer when he was just two years old, leaving him to be raised by his father's brother.
As a young boy, Luke asked his uncle about the folded flag on the bookshelf.
And when he learned about his dad's decades of devotion to the Army and the horrors of September 11th, that's when he learned.
Luke carried that memory with him and joined the ROTC as a college freshman.
He graduated just last year, and I'm pleased to say he is with us today as a second lieutenant and doing very well.
He's rising quickly in the infantry, preparing for Army Ranger School.
He's a spinning image of his dad, they say.
Luke says that every time he puts on a uniform, he feels connected to his father and to our country.
But it was a father he never knew.
Luke, your parents are together in heaven, and they could not be prouder of the man that they have produced.
They produced you.
Those two great people produced you.
Luke, please stand.
Thank you.
You look good, Luke.
donald j trump
You look good.
unidentified
They're looking down on you.
donald j trump
They're very proud.
unidentified
This morning, we recall the light of America's best and bravest and the love that they showed in their final moments.
In their memory, we make a solemn pledge and a noble promise.
We will honor always our great heroes.
You are our heroes.
There's a group of people that don't want to talk about our heroes, but we will always talk about our heroes.
And that's the way our country is, and that's the way the people feel.
We will defend the nation they served, the values they upheld, and the freedom for which they died.
We will support our troops.
We will protect our families.
And we will preserve the American way of life for every future generation.
We will build taller, grow stronger, fight harder, and soar higher.
And together we will go forward as one people with one heart, one fate, one flag, and one glorious destiny under Almighty God.
May God bless the memories of those who died and the heroes who fought and the soldiers who still stand watch.
donald j trump
May God bless the United States of America.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
thank you ladies and gentlemen please remain standing for the singing of god bless america and remain standing for the benediction
Let us pray.
Almighty and merciful God, gratefully we acknowledge your presence with us this morning and implore your presence day by day.
Grant peace for those who grieve, wisdom for those who lead, and courage for those standing the watch for our nation.
We implore your blessing, not asking you to conform to our will, but that you would align us with yours.
Now may the Lord bless us and keep us.
May the Lord make his face shine upon us and be gracious unto us.
May the Lord lift up his countenance upon us and give us peace.
Amen.
Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's ceremony.
Please remain seated until the departure of the official party.
Thank you for joining us this morning.
The Pentagon Memorial and the Pentagon Memorial Chapel are open until 12 p.m.
President Trump is exiting the Pentagon for the very solemn commemoration.
Pete Hickseth.
We're going to, in a moment, call for the beginning of that, where President Trump said very moving remarks about Charlie Kirk.
I'm here in Utah with Andrew Colvet, Charlie Kirk's partner, and particularly on the content side.
First off, can you get us up to date?
How's everything doing?
How's everybody holding together?
You know, I think as good as could be expected, as well as could be expected.
You know, yesterday was a day that, you know, none of us ever wanted to live through or experience, and it was a horror and a nightmare.
You know, at the same time, I didn't, you know, I got when the team told me that you guys wanted me on the show this morning.
I candidly didn't want to do it, but I knew Charlie would want me to be here.
And I could hear his voice in my head being like, you know, toughen up, you know, better figure it out.
You can handle this.
And so, yeah, I mean, we're going to, you know, just like before, we're going to do things that push us and we'ren't comfortable with, but that he would want us to do.
So, and, you know, we're going to take his spirit on and keep fighting and keep pushing.
And, yeah, but it's still raw, you know.
It's an organization that's changed the direction of the country in American politics, but it's a very young organization with young people.
I mean, Charlie was young, and the thing about Charlie, he was a happy warrior, right?
No matter how intense, it was always the organization doing?
You have so many young people there, right?
I mean, Charlie started this thing when he was, what, 18, 19, 18, 19 years old.
How's the overall team doing?
You know, I think everybody's still in shock.
I think, you know, we held a prayer vigil at the HQ last night.
It was beautiful.
andrew colvett
There were outpourings of support from across the country.
unidentified
Vigils popped up in random places.
And that was amazing to see.
Patrols all over the world.
andrew colvett
All over the world.
unidentified
Yeah.
And huge, spontaneous.
andrew colvett
Spontaneous.
steve bannon
Self-organizing.
unidentified
As Charlie would love.
Right.
steve bannon
I mean, that was his whole thing.
andrew colvett
Yeah.
unidentified
And, yeah, I mean, listen, a lot of the senior leadership came straight here immediately.
There's a few senior leadership that are still in Phoenix.
And listen, we're one of Charlie's absolute cries of his heart.
And something I heard him say repeatedly was that we're building an institution that's going to live beyond me.
And he said that over and over and over again.
Obviously, he is irreplaceable and one of one.
But I know that's what he'd want.
And already the outpouring of support from donors and supporters and friends that want to keep the mission going, and they want Charlie's legacy, part of that legacy, to be that it doesn't end with him.
And I think that's something that we are very committed to.
And it's just a lot to, there's a lot to still just process.
He picked you guys for a reason.
I mean, you've got you and Tyler and the senior team.
He was building an institution that would live.
Charlie, I told Charlie all the time, he was a future president of the United States.
At some point in time, he was going to go into elective politics, right?
Therefore, the institution would survive him as he went on and did other, you know, either ran for governor of Arizona or ran for the U.S. Senate or, you know, was picked as a vice presidential candidate, right?
So he was building an institution the entire time, knowing that his future wasn't always going to be Turning Point.
Turning point would stand on its own at some point in time.
Yeah, I mean, that's true.
Obviously, we anticipated Charlie being with Turning Point a lot longer and sort of always being there, whether it was Emeritus or not.
andrew colvett
But I know what you're saying is true.
unidentified
My wife, just this morning, before I left to come here, said the same thing.
andrew colvett
It's like God has put you guys in this position for such a time as this and for a purpose and a reason, and he knew what he was doing, and I believe that.
unidentified
And, you know, I think right now we still have some mourning and grieving, obviously, to do.
But yeah, I mean, Charlie, if we wanted to disgrace the legacy of Charlie Kirk, it would be not carrying on his mission.
And that is not an option.
steve bannon
No, he's a fighter.
unidentified
I mean, his life ended right there when he's doing what he loved to do, right?
steve bannon
Debate.
Let's play.
Can we play?
I want to play President Trump's remarks about Charlie at the beginning of the Penemogon commemoration for 9-11.
unidentified
Can we go and play that?
steve bannon
And I want to get the feedback from Andrew.
unidentified
Before we begin, let me express the horror and grief so many Americans at the heinous assassination of Charlie Kirk have felt.
Charlie was a giant of his generation, a champion of liberty, and an inspiration to millions and millions of people.
Our prayers are with his wonderful wife, Eric, and his beautiful children.
Fantastic people they are.
We miss him greatly, yet I have no doubt that Charlie's voice and the courage he put into the hearts of countless people, especially young people, will live on.
I'm pleased to announce that I will soon be awarding Charlie Kirk posthumously the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
The date of the ceremony will be announced, and I can only guarantee you one thing: that we will have a very big crowd.
Very, very big.
So, Charlie posthumously awarded by the President the Medal of Freedom.
That's a pretty powerful statement by the President of the United States.
andrew colvett
Yeah.
unidentified
You know, I'm reminded of so many conversations where I would ask Charlie, well, you know, what did the president say?
You know, what is and so many times his answer is like, you know, people just don't understand.
andrew colvett
Like, we're actually friends.
unidentified
Like, we're good friends.
And he loved him.
And I know Trump loved Charlie.
And it wasn't transactional.
And Steve, you know this.
Charlie was loyal to a fault.
And, you know, I'd see the people online criticizing if Trump did something they disagreed with and Charlie wasn't loud enough against it.
And people just didn't understand.
Charlie was loyal.
He was fundamentally good and decent.
And anybody who knew him intimately knew that he was overly loyal, overly generous, overly decent and patient.
And so many people that, you know, maybe didn't treat him the way they should have, Charlie would never return like for like.
And he really saw his role as keeping the coalition together that Trump built in 2024 and that Turning Point played a huge role and Charlie played a huge role and you played a huge role, Steve, and keeping that coalition together because he didn't see this as a four-year win.
He saw it as a generational win, as a 60-year win that he wanted to build upon for the sake of his kids and this country.
And, you know, I think I can hear it in the president's voice this morning that he lost a friend, as we all did.
And I think it's a great honor.
I know Charlie is honored, and his wife is honored, Erica, and it's well deserved.
We're going to juggle coverage between the traditional 9-11 coverage and, of course, the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
steve bannon
Charlie the man, particularly people that may have not had a chance to go to the turning point events or see Charlie, what always impressed me the most was not simply the hard work or the pressures under because he was dealing at the highest level and building this organization.
unidentified
I call him the happy warrior.
He was never down, totally up, no matter what the circumstances was.
He'd always say, we'll figure it out, right?
These very complex events, and then, of course, the ground game, which you guys delivered, Arizona and Pennsylvania, right?
Besides helping in Georgia and Michigan and Wisconsin, two states that put Trump over the top.
Talk to us about Charlie the man, particularly as this positive energy that was always out there, because obviously the left-wing media is accusing Charlie of hate speech and being divisive.
He was anything really but divisive.
No, I mean, for people who really know, I mean, the clips that go viral, it's just the internet doing the internet, what the internet does, you know, where it gets lively.
And Charlie understood that dynamic.
andrew colvett
I mean, he, but as he got older, these campus debates especially turned into Big Brother teaching.
unidentified
Yeah, and 90% of the interactions, if you go back and look, 90% of the interactions, he was so soft and gentle and patient with these people.
And the people that really understood what you were trying to teach.
Yes, exactly.
andrew colvett
He became such much more of a Big Brother figure or role model figure.
unidentified
And, you know, Charlie, some of my favorite moments with Charlie were just flying on planes late at night, you know, across the country, darting all over the place during the campaign or whatever.
And, you know, the weight of the world really was on his shoulders.
And here we are joking at 35,000 feet and having just a blast.
And Charlie was funny.
He was really funny.
And he never, you know, that's not part of what people think about Charlie.
He was hilarious.
And he had this uncanny ability, Steve, to think about others.
And I told my wife this last night.
andrew colvett
I said, he thought about me and my travel or my family or how he could make my life better or if he could help me out in some way or get me a hotel more than I thought about me.
unidentified
And he'd be like, hey, is your wife, you know, is she set up?
Do you need us to do something for her?
andrew colvett
Like, let me know.
unidentified
And he would just constantly do that.
And I would be thinking, this guy has his schedule so tightly packed, like a Tetris, you know, board.
And yet somehow he made space in his brain to worry about me.
And I knew that he was doing that for literally hundreds of people almost every day.
And I don't know how he did it, but it's truly remarkable.
Let's talk about that schedule.
The content and building an organization, and particularly something he focused on, ballot chasing at Ground Game, given the experiences we had.
steve bannon
The last weekend of his life, he spent with Mina Kim and the folks in Korea, that tremendous conference.
unidentified
You guys have done tremendous work there with Grace Chung.
And Tyler, by Zoom?
Okay.
Let's bring in Tyler Bore.
steve bannon
We'll give this a second.
Tyler Boreer joins us now.
unidentified
Charlie's head of kind of the political operation.
Tyler, your memories of Charlie, particularly the upbeat nature and the positive energy he put in everything.
Yes, Steve, thank you for having us.
And, you know, I just echo everything that Andrew said.
We have been in just a constant state of mourning here.
But as we're going through all this, what you said is that him being a happy warrior was the front face for what Charlie Kirk is and what continues on.
And, you know, we're out fighting a battle every single day.
And this is part of that battle that I know everybody's waking up to this morning.
And, you know, they've, you know, like a lot like me probably didn't get a whole lot of sleep.
But you're going through and you're looking at the legacy of Charlie Kirk and who he is and the man that he led the organization with.
tyler bowyer
And, you know, you start to just to break down what the next steps are here.
unidentified
And there's a lot of emotions that I think a lot of people are feeling right now.
And, you know, there's a sense of patriotism, I think, that comes in moments like these.
tyler bowyer
And that's a good thing.
unidentified
That's a great thing.
I'm telling people right now, the anger, those feelings that you're feeling must turn to activism, turn into activism.
That's what Charlie would want.
And, you know, being a person like me or Andrew, who has had like a front row seat to the Charlie Kirk show, you know, in a bigger sense, not the little S on big S from the capitalization of the show.
But being around Charlie and seeing how he operates and building things every single day.
I don't think people realize every single day the plan of waking up is what are we building next?
What are we doing next?
What is the next step?
What does the country need to essentially survive?
And that's why it's just, you know, it's been such a pleasure, such an honor of a lifetime to be able to be part of that.
Because without many of those things, we wouldn't be where we are today in the movement.
And I know you know you feel that way.
But it wasn't a mistake by any means that we are where we are with young people, with the party, with everything.
So.
Why don't you?
We're going to cut in about 60 seconds to the second tower falling, as we traditionally do.
And I want to come back and talk about he was building an institution.
He had, you were putting up an amazing amount of content every day.
Tyler is one of the key architects of Trump's victory in 24 with the ground game and ballot chasing, which as a learning organization, you learned yourself the importance of that in the Carrie Lake race.
And, you know, I remember Charlie saying, and Tyler, that'll never happen again, right?
And it manifested itself in the victory in 2020.
steve bannon
Okay, let's go to New York.
unidentified
We're going to go to New York right now for the second tower.
There you go.
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Jake Dennis Yagoda.
Yudvir S. Jane.
Maria Yakubiak.
Robert Adrian Jalbert.
Ernest James.
Griselda E. James.
Mark Stephen Jardine.
Amy Nicole.
That anyone of age can remember 24 years ago, of course, the attack on the United States by radical Islam that was brought to the United States on that day.
Another horrible day yesterday, and today the emotions are very raw.
And look, Charlie Kirk was assassinated in cold blood.
Charlie Kirk was executed.
We're going to get to the bottom of that, right?
steve bannon
And, you know, that'll be dealt with when it's got to be dealt with.
But the work of Charlie Kirk, particularly the three things, building the institution, which was so powerful, really telling everybody, I can change with this institution the arc of where young people's perception of politics and engagement in politics and volunteering in politics, and therefore the arc of the nation, which he did.
unidentified
This is what 2024 was.
You two guys are the two key guys.
You on the content side, more or less, and Tyler on the political side.
And what always impressed me about you guys and Charlie, he created a learning institution.
I remember coming on the show all night in the wee hours of the morning, Cary Lake, this county's coming in, this district's coming in.
And I remember Tyler and Charlie and you guys afterwards, okay, we've learned a lesson here, and it's never going to happen again.
And we will build an organization to the fact that Tyler, and look, if it has not been for Turning Point, your guys' focus on getting the kids out, but particularly ballot chasing low-propensity, low-information voters, President Trump would not be in the White House right now.
There's a.
I totally agree.
We were laughing yesterday that Charlie would have been upset that we weren't streaming last night.
100%.
Yeah, Charlie would have wanted us to do it.
That's partly why I'm here this morning.
You know, I couldn't help but think, and I hope this isn't too bold of me to say, but watching the Second Tower commemoration, I feel like America just lost a third tower of a man yesterday.
And we're going to miss him, but we built an institution.
He built an institution designed to stand the test of time and to be able to ride out these waves and the different iterations of our political environment and the different generations to come behind.
And so, and I do, I can just tell you, there is the outpouring of love and support blowing me away some of the texts I'm getting.
andrew colvett
And so, yeah, those three prongs, I mean, he did build a learning institution.
unidentified
We were taking education into the universities that the universities weren't doing.
And there was such a hunger and a thirst on these campuses from these kids to see that combat of ideas and the back and forth and to hear people say something unapologetic about what they believed and they stood by it and they could defend it.
And that piece, Steve, I mean, there's a pollster, Mitchell Brown, who's one of the Trump pollsters signal.
andrew colvett
He did a poll after the election.
unidentified
And basically, if you extrapolate it out, it was 16 or 17 million young people were more likely to vote for Trump across the country because of the content that Charlie Kirk made on these college campuses.
President Trump awarded posthumously Charlie Kirk the Presidential Medal of Freedom, which is the highest civilian honor that one could get.
He's also announced he was going to give one to Rudy Giuliani the mayor as we see in the New York shots is in the front row there as America's mayor.
steve bannon
Tyler, I remember, and when I say learning institutions, Charlie led an institution.
unidentified
You guys didn't kid yourselves.
I remember coming on the show, but you guys were in the studio.
I would come on, and literally in the Carrie Lake thing, we were going, remember, is this precinct, you know?
And you guys, after that, really changed everything by coming up with this ballot chasing initiative.
And this ballot chasing initiative is hard work.
And it's not the type of work you think young people are going to be that excited about.
But you guys, Tyler, tell us about that because the reason we're here today with a House and a Senate and the presidency is because the work of Charlie, the vision of Charlie Kirk and the work of the team around him, sir.
Yeah, and you're exactly right, Steve.
tyler bowyer
And you know this, we buckled in and got, again, an introspection into the world of politics, the RC, what the Republican establishment wasn't doing on behalf of the American people, and made a decision.
Charlie made a decision to do that work.
unidentified
And it's not easy work.
It's big work.
And we knew we had the people to do the work.
And so we felt, and Charlie had always felt this way.
It's felt like there was a mantle that needed to be carried by him with his influence, especially with young men in this last election to get that work done.
And that's all of the conversations we had moving forward.
And so you look at, you know, the most recent conversation I had with Charlie was, you know, this last week of being dramatically concerned about the direction of where the Republican Party's going, about, you know, conservatives lifting up conservatives, making sure that we have enough young people that feel like they have the backing to run to run for I.
He's constantly focused on who in the bench were we building, just like we were focused on every single day, you know, getting things done by 9 a.m., you know, having a full agenda of things that were going to move the needle.
The big question was, is who's going to be the next man up to fill the need and fill the void?
And then how are we going to help those people make sure that they get elected?
And those are the two very simple things when we talk about ballot chasing that Charlie and his legacy will carry on.
We will carry it on as so many people within our sphere, within our ecosystem are hopefully yesterday waking up and realizing they have to get more involved.
They have to do more.
They have to help chase ballots.
They have to help get out the vote.
They have to run for office.
They have to step up because life is fragile.
It's short.
And this country is hanging by a thread at times.
And we are very lucky this last election, we were able to bring all of that together and work with the team from the content side to the turning point USA side, building the funnel for the bench and then working on the political side to actually put bodies on the ground that we need.
And again, we're looking ahead to 2026 and 2028.
And I said this to some of our team yesterdays.
There's nothing that we can do more to honor Charlie than to see this thing through.
It cannot lose steam.
It cannot lose any kind of gas whatsoever.
We have a war to fight.
We have a challenge to fight.
Charlie Kirk would want to finish what we started, right?
That was about – I'll start with Andrew then.
I want to bring you in, Tyler.
When I looked at Charlie, I said, this guy's tapped into something.
And what it was, was a deep spirituality and a focus on young men.
He realized that young men were lost.
Tell me about this.
You know, we saw it in the social media metrics.
We saw it in the crowds.
We saw it in just, you know, he couldn't walk down a street.
And I kept telling this because, you know, after the fall of 2025 and into the spring, we had to kind of recalibrate because he was so, so, so famous.
Like 24.
andrew colvett
24, fall of 24, spring of 20.
unidentified
Yeah, 25.
And it was like, you know, he was always pretty well known.
You know, even when I first started working with him, like, you know, eight years ago, you know, he'd get fist bumps in the airport and stuff like that from random people.
But then, like, I mean, it went so nuclear.
And it would always be these young guys.
Charlie, can I get a selfie?
andrew colvett
Can I get a self?
I mean, and they would mob him.
unidentified
They would mob him.
andrew colvett
It didn't matter if he was walking on the street of Manhattan or in Seoul, South Korea or London, England, or, you know, Montana or anywhere in between.
unidentified
It was incredible.
I have a story for you that you probably enjoy, Steve.
andrew colvett
He was hanging out with some Fox personalities, on-air Fox personalities.
unidentified
And they were at this bar and they were kind of talking.
They wanted to talk about some things.
And I won't say the names because that would be Charlie wouldn't want.
These were people that would know.
These are people that the public would know.
andrew colvett
Of course.
unidentified
Like very well-known people within the conservative movement.
andrew colvett
And they're at this bar because that's the only place nearby.
unidentified
Just imagine.
I think I'm going to love this story.
And you got to understand, you know, Charlie had a good relationship with Fox, especially at the end, but there were times where it wasn't, you know, where he wasn't.
Hang out like for three years when he was banned because of your guy's work on Stolen Election and all that.
What does it matter now?
I mean, it was, you know, it was after Tucker.
But anyways, they ended up embracing, and it was good.
It was good.
Anyways, I want to be gracious in this time.
andrew colvett
It was good.
unidentified
Anyway, so part of that getting good time, they're talking at this bar.
And this is a small town.
I mean, you can imagine Fox is on every television in this town.
And there was a series of about 50 to 75 people, I'm told, over the course of about an hour.
And they all came up for selfies with Charlie.
And on about 20 of those occasions, they asked these very famous Fox hosts if they could take the selfie with Charlie.
They could take the picture.
Hey, can you work the camera for me?
andrew colvett
And so, yeah, I mean, like, that was what Charlie's life had become.
unidentified
And he told me, he's like, I've just, I've come to grips with it.
I've accepted this as my new reality.
But the amount of love just that he organically got.
Look at, we'll play later today in the afternoon show.
The great Meena Kim, Grace and Mo go over to Korea.
And Charlie, I mean, there's thousands of people at this thing, and Charlie's like such a known personality, right?
steve bannon
It's just, it's incredible.
unidentified
It's global.
It's not just the United States.
It's so global.
Tyler, talk to me about the focus on men.
steve bannon
Why did you choose, why did Charlie Kirk particularly focus on young men and made the point continually that they're adrift?
unidentified
That something's happened different now in our country that's never happened before.
That young men are kind of adrift, and we, turning point in the senior leadership, need to focus on that.
Well, well, Steve, remember, I met Charlie when he was basically a teenager, Andrew, not too long after that.
tyler bowyer
And, you know, Andrew and I are the exact same age, and we have a very similar family situation, married and kids, and everything else.
unidentified
And I think one of the pleasures of getting that front row seat with Charlie is being able to see Charlie grow into a husband and a father.
And for us, being a little bit older than him, I'm sorry, it was always extremely gratifying to watch him become the man he wanted to be,
that he saw for himself, that he advocated for from day one, even as a young guy, that he wanted to be that honorable vision of a father and a husband for Erica that he is.
And, you know, many people know this story, but Erica, I met Erica hosting the very first Trump rally ever.
We'd organized it in 2015 in July of 2015, and it was a Phoenix, and it was what started the whole Trump rally phenomenon.
It was the first big one in Phoenix.
tyler bowyer
But many people don't realize behind Trump speaking was my family, and Erica was right behind the president.
unidentified
And I wanted to hire her.
Charlie had different plans for that.
He met Erica and was like, oh my gosh, I have to marry this girl.
And he did.
tyler bowyer
And her world is collapsing because of this circumstance.
But he wanted to be a father and a husband and a father first.
unidentified
And so when you talk about young men and that influence over young men, every single decision that has been made for many years, you know, I would say pretty close to the beginning of turning point, has been centered around this being a good husband and a good father figure and how we can influence young men.
And when you have that as your mission first, as your voice first, you attract young men.
And it wasn't popular to be that, you know, 10 years ago when, you know, 11 years ago when I met Charlie.
And now it is popular.
We see it everywhere and everything that we do.
Young men admire Charlie Kirk for the husband and dad that he is.
And I think that that's the most important thing that I want people to know.
That he was such a great example that not all of us knew him the best and that we got to watch him operate because there was never a decision that was made that didn't go through that lens.
And that's so important for people to know.
And it's such an example.
And that's why young men are coming around because they're figuring out that that's the way.
There's nothing better than having kids.
There's nothing better than being hospital.
There's nothing better than putting your family first.
So I'm so sorry.
I have like that.
So.
No, it's great.
How did Charlie, how did Charlie Kirk do that?
How did he make himself into the man that he wanted to be?
Well, I got to say, Erica gets a lot of credit for that.
andrew colvett
When Erica came around, I mean, Charlie knew what his North Star was, but then when Erica came around, it was like, just focused him like a laser.
unidentified
And if anybody who knows Erica knows she's like legitimately one of the most amazing people you're ever going to meet.
And this is why Charlie continued to focus on marriage and particularly getting married young and starting a family and family formation.
Well, but he was in very Charlie fashion to tell a story, you know, Tyler, you know, he's like, he basically told Erica, you know, I have some bad news and some good news.
The bad news is, you know, I'm not going to hire you at turning point.
The good news is, like, I want to date you.
And they went on dates and obviously ended up getting married.
And that was very Charlie because he was, you know, one thing I can tell you is from 18 to 31, Charlie packed more life into those short days than most humans will pack into 100.
andrew colvett
And he lived his life so full.
unidentified
And he, you know, I was just reflecting on what Tyler was just saying about young men and your question.
You know, I got off topic.
I apologize.
But your question about young men, and you had this NBC poll that came out just a couple days ago, and Charlie was so excited about it because he said, listen, we got a lot of work to do with the women.
He's like, but we've done some great work with young men.
Like, they know it.
They want to have a lot of people.
Talk about that because the number one thing of young men is they want to have children.
Yeah.
And Charlie, I mean, we've preached it.
I mean, and by the way, this is existing in a world full of other voices, even some on the right, that say, oh, you know, don't get married.
It's not worth it.
The marriage laws are XYZ.
And Charlie's POV was like, let's make them sacred again.
Let's restore this institution because it's God's design.
And he said that over and over again.
andrew colvett
God's design is beautiful.
unidentified
God's design is amazing.
Let's pour into it.
Let's lean into God's design.
And I can just tell you, with the outpouring of all the letters and the notes, and I've been showing you here that my team is sending me from all the vigils that these pictures of these notes and handwritten notes with tears stains on them.
And, you know, they keep saying, like, you led me back to faith in God.
You led me back.
You restored my faith.
And Charlie wanted to be remembered for his faith.
And so I'm just so proud of that.
andrew colvett
And Steve, with your permission, I wanted to read something that's going to be going up on our Turning Point socials very soon.
unidentified
And our team put their heads together and wrote this and says, and you're going to see this on the website soon, but I figured I'd give it to you here first, Steve.
Every one of us at Turning Point is crushed and devastated by the hateful murder of our founder and guiding light, Charlie Kirk.
andrew colvett
All of us have lost a leader, a mentor, and a friend.
unidentified
Above all, our hearts are with Erica and their two children.
andrew colvett
Charlie was the ideal husband and the perfect father.
unidentified
Above all else, we ask you to pray for the Kirks after the incomprehensible loss that they have suffered.
More than anyone, Charlie believed in the power of argument and good faith debate to find the truth and guide people towards, if not agreement, at least mutual understanding.
Charlie was no stranger to threats.
andrew colvett
He received hundreds throughout his life.
unidentified
Really, it was almost daily.
But he always prioritized reaching as many young Americans as possible over his own personal safety.
Now, Charlie has become America's greatest martyr to the freedom of speech he so adored.
In his 31 years, Charlie lived more than any of us will live in 100.
He had an overwhelming passion for life and a deep belief in his power as an individual to make a difference.
With the spirit of a pioneer, Charlie launched Turning Point out of his parents' garage as an 18-year-old with no money, no name recognition, and only a dream.
His energy and drive were awe-inspiring, without equal, and deeply infectious.
Charlie refused to squander a single day of his life, and that's so true.
He was a natural builder and problem solver who loved to challenge and saw every setback as a chance to learn, grow, pray, and try again.
He was fundamentally decent, always eager to make new friends and allies, and to support and defend the ones he already had made.
His values were timeless American ones: honesty, forthrightness, duty, loyalty, and fair play.
I'm almost done.
Charlie loved America, its people, its Constitution, its freedom, and the limitless good of all of them have done for the entire world.
But above all, Charlie lived every day with an overflowing love of the Christ he knew he would one day get to see.
When asked, Charlie said that above all, he wished to be remembered for his faith.
Far more than any political victory, Charlie wanted to see a spiritual revival among America's youth.
andrew colvett
He wanted a nation of happy, thriving families who loved God and each other.
unidentified
And at his final public speech just days before his murder, Charlie witnessed to Jesus Christ to an audience of non-believers.
Even in his very last moments, Charlie was professing the gospel.
He ran his race well all the way to the end.
Now he goes to his heavenly reward.
Although Charlie is gone, his legacy will endure.
He shall not grow old.
Age shall not weary him.
For all time, he will remain the brave young man who inspired tens of millions of Americans to better themselves and take action to better America.
All of us will miss Charlie.
None of us will ever forget him.
Fantastic.
Tyler, comments, observations.
Beautiful.
Yeah, it's one of the most beautiful things that the team has put together is that it's important for people to know that that work, his focus on, again, what we were talking about, young men, rebuilding the home is the fundamental to having a faith-centered life.
And, you know, his belief that culture downstream from cultures is how you get your politics.
And so we talk about that.
tyler bowyer
We train all of our staff to that every single day.
unidentified
And that is what the culmination of what the full Charlie Kirk perspective was.
And it was, and the beautiful part about this last election in 2024 was people saw it was undeniable that everyone on the left could see it.
tyler bowyer
Forget the right that, you know, we sometimes think we see these things, but the left saw it.
unidentified
And they were so scared of that because the left could never embrace any of these values.
They're not interested in any of these values.
And that's why these conservative principles that, you know, we have worked with so many young people at all different ages, you know, everything from high school, college, you know, colleges are bread and butter with just a heartbeat of Turning Point USA where we started.
And, you know, Charlie Kirk pulling out a folding table on cameras, a card table on campus and handing out flyers that he printed himself out of a small office in Illinois in the shadows of the Obama re-elect campaign.
People understand this was all born from the shadows of the Obama re-elect campaign heading into 2012, where you had a Chicago boy in the shadows of the Obama re-elect campaign that was out of the Chicago metro area, working as a true small versus large battle.
I mean, one kid, all of this, millions of voices, tens of millions of voices now have come out of it over the last decade plus.
And it's really been such an honor to see how that work has culminated and the fruit that it's borne.
It will continue to bear.
And that's the mission that we have to be on at this point, which is we have to carry the baton of what Charlie's vision was, because it's not replicable, but millions of people can stand in the pocket, can be a version, that version of American that Charlie hoped to influence,
because that was not the path that we were on in 2011, 2012.
And Charlie stepped in as a teenager to give America a voice again, to give conservatives a voice again.
And just like Andrew has said, he's always, you know, there was always that question of, I can't really envision, you know, an old man, Charlie Kirk.
And for many of us, it was envisioning him as president of the United States for that reason.
And he is now going to live on forever and all of forever and eternity as that young man who did that work, who engaged in that work, who changed so many lives, who dramatically changed the trajectory of where America was heading.
And I don't think anyone can ever, you know, fully comprehend what that will do, what that will bear over the course of the next decades.
But we'll see you.
And we know, and again, we'll be able to have those conversations and remember him for that.
You've never had someone of that age.
And remember, Charlie did not have a college degree.
Charlie did this as a teenager.
And you have to go back to the revolutionary generation, Hamilton, Jefferson, people like that, in that youth, to see somebody at that age do it.
I know you guys got so much to do, and I appreciate taking out, but I want to finish with one just observations from both of you.
And I'll start with you, Andrew.
People don't realize the bravery and courage is the most important of all virtues, as we know, because upon courage, all other virtues rest.
People do not understand the pressure, the tension, and the threats against Charlie Kirk that he just goes, I'm not going to stop this work.
steve bannon
I mean, he was assassinated in the very moment of what he did, what really changed the arc of this country.
unidentified
Personal engagement in an upbeat mode, but digging in on debate and free speech and the sharing of ideas and changing minds.
But talk to me about constantly, you guys, he was under threats and he would not back off.
And that's what we have to understand here.
We cannot back off.
We can't flinch.
Your thoughts?
andrew colvett
I mean, I hate to be the guy, but I begged him to do less.
unidentified
I was worried about his energy level.
I was worried about his health.
And I begged him to, you know, maybe we don't need to do a fall tour this way.
Maybe we could put glass up.
I mean, we've talked about all this stuff.
And he just, you know how Charlie was.
He was just like, no, I'm not going to do that.
You know, like, you know, I want to be close to everybody, you know?
And, you know, and our security team is legitimately top-notch for anybody wondering.
They worked so long and extensively with local PD and advancing all of these stops.
I mean, we have like an army of these guys.
Yeah, and he didn't want to do that.
You know, and in some ways, you know, he died with his boots on and with the microphone in his hand doing what he loved most to do.
And I want people to understand Charlie loved this like format, this moment with these students.
He learned so much.
He would always say that I learned so much.
He loved it.
And he died doing what he loved.
And I know that because I saw it firsthand.
I was the voice in his ear going like, maybe we shouldn't.
He's like, I love this.
You don't understand.
He's at the one of all caps and engagement.
He loved it.
He loved it.
steve bannon
Tyler, your closing thoughts and observations, sir.
unidentified
What Andrew just said is exactly right.
This was the work the man loved.
There is nothing that was going to stop Charlie Kirk from doing the work that he loved to do, doing the work that was very directly what was needed to be done to put this country on the right track.
That debt of gratitude that we all have that have been around Charlie, that have worked with Charlie in the trenches, that have been in the battles.
tyler bowyer
I mean, we've seen, I've been with Charlie, we've seen it, we've told these stories before where we've been attacked by Antifa in places we've been spit on and hit, and stuff has been thrown at us.
unidentified
We've seen it all from early days to where we are today.
And he's just become more loved.
And as we know, as he's become more loved, that there's the crazy people and the radicals that are very uncomfortable with how that popularity has ascended.
And again, the best thing that we can do is teach others to fearlessly do the work, the brave work, that has to be done in order for this country to survive, for the Constitutional Republic to be defended.
There was no pathway for a Trump revival without Charlie Kirk.
There was no pathway for a Trump revival without all of the energy that you see in these images of particularly young men, but young people in general coming around, turning around.
That pride that Charlie had that we had shifted in many of these states well more than double digits to the right young people.
I mean, in some of these places, we're talking 30, 40 points.
This is generational change that will never stop or be forgotten.
And so that's the best way we can honor Charlie is to honor and respect his work, how he went about his work, and then do our best to do pivots and pieces of it to replicate it.
And I know that that's what all of our people are thinking about today as we wake up and we think about Charlie and his legacy.
And I know, Steve, I just want to say this.
I know how much he loved and adored you as a guy that was in the foxhole with him constantly.
And, you know, we talked about that loyalty that was felt both ways with you.
And I know, I just want to say, on behalf of the entire Turning Point family and for myself, I can't thank you enough for being that great friend to Charlie through the thick and thin, because that's what enabled Charlie to become Charlie and to do the work that he did.
Yeah, I echo that.
And I know because I saw what he said about you behind closed doors, Steve, how much he loved you.
And no, I mean that.
He did.
He really did cared about you a lot and respected you a lot.
And never say a sideways word, you know.
And I just wanted to say one thing, and I don't think it's worth giving them the time of day, frankly.
But you see, I just wanted to echo something I saw Matt Walsh actually read online because there's people celebrating this, and I think it's really disgusting.
And they don't really deserve the time of day.
But Matt had a great take, and that he's like, you know, when I die, I hope my enemies are happy.
Because that meant that, like, I was effective and they knew it.
And so Charlie was fighting against ideological enemies, against this country, against God, against goodness, against righteousness.
And I will say this: what is sown in righteousness will bear righteous fruit.
And Charlie, and you're hearing it from two guys and three guys really that knew him intimately and well and saw him day in and day out, saw him in the tough moments where the chips were down.
He was fundamentally good and he was decent and he was kind and he loved God and he was anchored and he honored his friends.
And what he did behind closed doors is the same thing he did with his friends, whether it be, you know, Tucker Carlson or Megan Kelly or Steve Bannon or some kid that he randomly met at some chapter.
It was who he was and he was the exact same person.
He lived his values out.
And that's why I say what is sown in righteousness will bear righteous fruit.
You cannot snuff out what is sown in righteousness.
And I truly believe that.
And anybody that can hear the sound of my voice, like take faith because God is our refuge.
andrew colvett
God is with Charlie's strength.
unidentified
Charlie is with God right now.
andrew colvett
He is with Jesus.
unidentified
And I believe that with all my heart.
I've gotten some pastors and prophetic voices calling me saying that the craziest things happened right when Charlie's life was taken from us.
And I believe it, that God is going to bring about his vision and his goodness and his plan from this terrible tragedy.
And I believe it with all my heart.
And last thing, Steve.
Sure.
Charlie was not a revolutionary.
It's funny because I helped him with this book, The Right Wing Revolution.
And that was actually a counter-revolutionary book.
It was like, hey, we love peace and we love our country.
We love America.
We don't want to see blood in the streets.
andrew colvett
We don't want to see violence.
unidentified
And I just want to say that for all, I love the righteous anger that I'm seeing from our friends.
Don't get me wrong.
andrew colvett
I love it and I share it.
unidentified
And I want whoever did this to be brought to justice swiftly and firmly.
But Charlie wants a country for his kids to thrive in and grow in.
And I would just say it's okay to be radicalized.
andrew colvett
It's not okay for that to go in the wrong direction.
unidentified
Remember what Charlie would want.
He loved our founders.
He loved this country.
andrew colvett
Please direct what you're feeling towards saving America, not ripping it apart.
unidentified
Well, let's do that because, Charlie, it's on your shoulders and the team at Turning Point to finish what he started.
steve bannon
So what's your social media?
unidentified
Twitter is X.
It's Andrew Kaysay.
I'm mostly there as an attack dog for Charlie, but I did leave a note as best I could yesterday, moments after what happened.
And we're going to probably be doing the show after you today with Jack Kosovic.
He's going to be guest hosting.
I'll probably chime in a bit.
And I know Jack's got a whole plan and Turning Point USA.
steve bannon
We're going to toss you guys like we always toss.
Tyler, closing thoughts and where do people track you guys?
Because now it's upon the team at Turning Point, like I said, to finish what Charlie started.
unidentified
Yeah, Steve, the best way, just like Andrew said, the best way to get involved is the spirit of Charlie Kirk, which is not the misdirected animosity and anger way.
tyler bowyer
It's the way that Charlie Belt, I mean, the beautiful part about what Charlie did that's different from everyone else, and I just had this conversation with others, is we've had legends pass who have done so much good for this world.
unidentified
Guys like Rush Limbaugh and so many others that we've seen in the past, the difference is that Charlie built something and led the way of this is what you do in order to help save the country in the way that Charlie would save it.
All the programs that we do through Turning Point USA, high school college, and our faith, TPUSA faith, getting involved with that or beyond that into politics and elections is winning elections, winning the argument, winning the debate within the public space.
That's what Charlie did.
tyler bowyer
That's his entire legacy.
unidentified
That's his entire life is get involved, become part of something in your community.
Don't stand by and become so cynical that you don't think these things can change.
The cynics all sat along the sidelines and said that Trump could never win again.
And we knew better than that.
We knew that if we could get everybody involved, Charlie knew that if we could get everybody involved doing these things, that they could win.
So getting involved at Turning Point Action, we would welcome everybody with open arms.
We have swinging states to win.
We have places to establish so that Charlie's kids and our kids can all live in the America that the Constitutional Republic that we once knew and we know can be, that we know that the left is the radical left is working against.
And so getting involved at tpaction.com, just click the links to get involved.
tyler bowyer
We would love nothing more than for millions of Americans to march to the beat of Charlie's drum for the rest of their lives.
unidentified
That's the way.
So thank you, Steve.
Amen.
We will toss to you guys at noon.
Tyler Boyer, Turning Point Action, and of course, Andrew Colvet, the kind of the tack dog a little bit, the executive producer of the show.
Spokesman for Turning Point.
That's good.
That was my two of the toughest homebreys I've ever met.
And Charlie left this in good hands.
Let's take a short commercial break.
Could take a floating break and let you guys regroup.
And we'll see you back here.
steve bannon
We'll see you at noon with Jack Basobic.
unidentified
Okay, fine.
That's good.
No, I tell you what I want to do.
Let's play.
I want to play some of the great clips we got of Charlie Kirk.
steve bannon
I got that great spiritual clip.
unidentified
Just tell me when that's ready.
And you're in the war room.
And today, you know, today's our traditional thanks, guys.
Appreciate it.
Thanks, man.
steve bannon
Great job.
unidentified
We have that.
Or tell you what, if you got booted up, if you have Andrew's commemoration, we're going to get Jack Basobic up in a minute.
We got Jack Bisobic up in a minute.
We've got Dave Bratt.
steve bannon
Okay.
unidentified
Okay, ready to go?
Let's go ahead.
We got Charlie Kirk.
Last weekend of his life, what did Charlie Kirk do?
Charlie Kirk went to Korea to spread the gospel of conservatism and also our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the great Mina Kim.
Let's go ahead and see it.
We're going to do a Korean way of prayer for you.
It's called a praying out loud prayer.
We wouldn't want to do that to you and bless you today.
Heavenly Father, thank you for sending your warrior to Korea.
I lift up Charlie, the leader you have raised up in America, to wake up next generation.
May he remember Korea in every step he takes, and may you protect him, Lord, and be with him so that he may fully carry out the mission you have entrusted to him.
And Lord, I thank you for making this gathering possible.
And I give all the glory to you, Lord.
I pray all this name in the name of Jesus.
In the name of Jesus, I pray.
Amen.
And I can just tell you with the outpouring of all the letters and the notes, and I've been showing you here that my team is sending me from all the vigils, these pictures of these notes, and there's handwritten notes with tears, stains on them.
And, you know, they keep saying, like, you led me back to faith in God.
You led me back.
You restored my faith.
And Charlie wanted to be remembered for his faith.
And so I'm just so proud of that.
And Steve, with your permission, I wanted to read something that's going to be going up on our Turning Point socials very soon.
And our team put their heads together and wrote this and says, and you're going to see this on the website soon, but I figured I'd give it to you here first, Steve.
Every one of us at Turning Point is crushed and devastated by the hateful murder of our founder and guiding light, Charlie Kirk.
All of us have lost a leader, a mentor, and a friend.
Above all, our hearts are with Erica and their two children.
andrew colvett
Charlie was the ideal husband and the perfect father.
Above all else, we ask you to pray for the Kirks after the incomprehensible loss that they have suffered.
unidentified
More than anyone, Charlie believed in the power of argument and good faith debate to find the truth and guide people towards, if not agreement, at least mutual understanding.
andrew colvett
Charlie was no stranger to threats.
He received hundreds throughout his life.
unidentified
Really, it was almost daily.
But he always prioritized reaching as many young Americans as possible over his own personal safety.
Now, Charlie has become America's greatest martyr to the freedom of speech he so adored.
In his 31 years, Charlie lived more than any of us will live in 100.
He had an overwhelming passion for life and a deep belief in his power as an individual to make a difference.
With the spirit of a pioneer, Charlie launched Turning Point out of his parents' garage as an 18-year-old with no money, no name recognition, and only a dream.
His energy and drive were awe-inspiring, without equal, and deeply infectious.
andrew colvett
Charlie refused to squander a single day of his life.
That's so true.
unidentified
He was a natural builder and problem solver who loved to challenge and saw every setback as a chance to learn, grow, pray, and try again.
andrew colvett
He was fundamentally decent, always eager to make new friends and allies, and to support and defend the ones he already had made.
unidentified
His values were timeless American ones: honesty, forthrightness, duty, loyalty, and fair play.
I'm almost done.
Charlie loved America, its people, its Constitution, its freedom, and the limitless good of all of them have done for the entire world.
But above all, Charlie lived every day with an overflowing love of the Christ he knew he would one day get to see.
When asked, Charlie said that above all, he wished to be remembered for his faith.
andrew colvett
Far more than any political victory, Charlie wanted to see a spiritual revival among America's youth.
unidentified
He wanted a nation of happy, thriving families who loved God and each other.
And at his final public speech just days before his murder, Charlie witnessed to Jesus Christ to an audience of non-believers.
Even in his very last moments, Charlie was professing the gospel.
He ran his race well all the way to the end.
Now he goes to his heavenly reward.
Although Charlie is gone, his legacy will endure.
He shall not grow old.
Age shall not weary him.
For all time, he will remain the brave young man who inspired tens of millions of Americans to better themselves and take action to better America.
All of us will miss Charlie.
None of us will ever forget him.
The battle is coming to the West and the enemies are wokeism or Marxism combining with Islamism to go after what we call the American way of life.
And the American way of life is very simple.
I want to be able to get married, buy a home, have kids, allow them to ride their bike till the sun goes down, send them to a good school, have a low-crime neighborhood, not to have my kid be taught the lesbian, gay, transgender garbage in their school.
While also, while also not having them have to hear the Muslim call to prayer five times a day, that's important.
We want the American way of life, which is, by the way, Christendom.
Christians, our sacrifice, our toil, our vision, the outgrowth of the scriptures gave us Western civilization.
And this is where I think is a great rallying cry.
Doesn't matter if you're Hispanic, doesn't matter if you're Asian, doesn't matter if you're black or white.
Everybody, if you are Christian and Jesus Christ is your Lord and Savior, these two threats are combining forces to come after us.
And it's time that the church stands and rises up against us.
Stands and rises up.
Day Brat, you're my resident philosopher, theologian, Charlie Kirk, his place in American history and the warning that he left us with, sir.
Yeah, without exaggeration, I think yesterday he's going to be up there with JFK, Martin Luther King Jr., etc.
Charlie, what you just heard him say, right?
He said, and I just want this all to be about Charlie Kirk.
I'll just say, our Liberty students got together and praised God for the work of Charlie Kirk and Turning Point in every university on his campus.
You know, you kids, keep moving.
Keep moving.
You're doing great.
Just keep it moving.
But Charlie, you know, everything we've heard today, he said, for me, what's your number one?
Everyone's asking him, what's your number one, Charlie?
He says, my number one is courage for my faith.
Courage for my faith.
dave brat
That's his enduring message to all of us.
unidentified
And then secondly, people ask, what's your calling?
dave brat
Charlie, what's your calling, right?
unidentified
In the Christian faith.
You believe God, you know, calls you to a certain purpose.
Said my calling.
Other people have different callings.
But my call is to fight evil and to proclaim the truth.
And boy, you just heard it, man.
dave brat
When he picks his people, Andrew and Tyler, I get to see these guys once in a while with you, Steve.
unidentified
And when you see the people he picks, right, the humility and the strong faith and the encouragement they give to the family.
I just want to read it again.
dave brat
My call, this is Charlie Kirk, and I hope you will all join Charlie in his call, in his calling, is to fight evil and to proclaim the truth.
unidentified
And then, where does he do that?
dave brat
He goes onto the American University campus.
unidentified
And so the next key for Charlie is education.
And we have not been doing a good job across the hang country.
But hang on.
He goes to the very place that used to be the foundation for truth that has in modern America, right?
Throughout the Judeo-Christian West, but particularly in modern America, have become a nest of propaganda, of anti-the tenets of the Judeo-Christian West, of the most virulent hatred of Christendom, right?
steve bannon
That's what Charlie Kirk walked towards the fire.
unidentified
And this is why the guy said, with all the threats against him, he wasn't going to back off because that's what he did, right?
That's who he was.
His proclamation of the truth was to young people.
His genius was understanding that young men particularly yearn for that, sir.
Yeah, no, that's right.
And what's his chief message you just heard?
It's there is a truth.
dave brat
The truth is to be found in God, in Jesus Christ, in Christendom.
unidentified
He just said that 30 seconds ago.
That's his truth.
And so the truth of the last 50 years in higher education has been called openness, right?
dave brat
We're open to anything, a moral relativism.
unidentified
And on 9-11, right, it all ties in together.
No, we are not open to everything.
And you don't want to say you're closed-minded, but we are closed off.
And we need to close off to the list he just said, to this idea of men as women, our kids in shared bathrooms, the faith.
And then the key to this all, right?
dave brat
If you really want to get at it, this openness, the Christians have been weak.
unidentified
And the Christian church has been weak.
These young men, including Charlie, are better than most of the pastors out there in the churches.
And so the churches, I hope they take up Charlie's mission here as well.
But what he's teaching us is to follow the truth of a certain tradition and that not everything is open.
And the key to this is what is going on in our K-12 education system.
We're not allowed to mention God.
dave brat
He had another clip on morality.
unidentified
I want to share.
The teachers make it very clear there's morality, right?
dave brat
They're giving you all sorts of lectures on their morality.
unidentified
The only morality that's not allowed is the majority morality of the Christian West.
That's the only one you cannot teach, right?
And just so folks know, when Charlie's educating, boy, is he good on Aristotle and the Christian founders, etc.
And human rights language, rights to life, which was just cut short for Charlie.
Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness all come out of only the Judeo-Christian West.
In about the 1200s out of the Catholic Church, rights language uniquely and solely come out of that.
Now the minority is pushing their rights.
Our kids have to go into bathrooms and men are women.
A minority handful of 0.1% of people are dominating the majority because the majority has become so weak.
dave brat
The founders never intended that.
unidentified
We want to protect minority rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
dave brat
But they don't get to dictate the will of the country.
unidentified
And so I think Charlie and the churches and the schools, everyone, we need to demand that the Christian message be taught in K to 12 and in higher education, in the curriculum, and it's an embarrassment for it not to happen, right?
dave brat
Other traditions have not produced human rights language.
unidentified
Islam, God is so totally sovereign, and your obedience so dictated, they have not developed a human rights tradition.
I can go across the others with billions of folks, right?
dave brat
And most of the people in the world are religious.
There's huge wisdom we can glean and we can debate.
unidentified
But the greatness of the United States of America comes solely out of that Judeo-Christian tradition.
dave brat
The kids are not taught this.
unidentified
The left wants to deny that.
And they took Charlie's life yesterday.
It was a gut punch.
I've never felt like that.
I've seen tough stuff.
I hang around with Stephen K. Bannon.
President Trump's been shot twice, but my gut was sick yesterday.
And my wife is so upset.
And all of our friends at Liberty University, and the kids are out celebrating and praising God for that gift.
But now the next step is to fight the fight, right?
His killer needs to be found.
This leftist assault on the universities.
dave brat
We're paying for this, right?
unidentified
I didn't get to that little point.
dave brat
We are being made to pay for K-12 education that won't teach about God.
unidentified
Where'd my liberty go, right?
Liberty and the pursuit of happiness?
You're encroaching upon my liberty.
I'm having to fund your atheism at universities, etc.
Hang on one second.
I want to play the clip from Liberty.
We're producing as we're going.
And I want to follow that if we can, if we have time, about Charlie talking about doing this at the universities.
If not, I'll do it off the break.
steve bannon
Let's play the Liberty clip first.
unidentified
Incredible, very powerful.
That's yesterday, spontaneous.
You saw this throughout the country and the world.
Spontaneous.
And how many people, how many young men had done something to accomplish something that spontaneous throughout the world, these demonstrations of sorrow, but also reinforcing the fact that Charlie Kirk's work would go on.
I tell you, Dave, hang on, we have another clip of Charlie talking about the college campuses and doing what he does, which as Andrew Colvett said it best, he died with his boots on yesterday.
Let's go ahead and play this.
I go around universities and have challenging conversations because that's what is so important to our country is to find our disagreements respectfully.
Because when people stop talking, that's when violence happens.
I've never seen someone do this.
charlie kirk
Well, it's a growing trend because people like me are facing violence, assaults, the left.
unidentified
Yes, the campus Antifa.
charlie kirk
I've been stormed out of restaurants.
unidentified
I've been assaulted publicly, multiple death threats.
Okay, so what's your goal in all this?
charlie kirk
There's more people that agree with me than some people would actually believe, and they come out of the woodwork when I do stuff like this.
unidentified
We record all of it so that we put it on the internet so people can see these ideas collide.
When people stop talking, that's when you get violence.
charlie kirk
That's when civil war happens because you start to think the other side is so evil and they lose their humanity.
unidentified
Okay, Charlie Kirk, tell us what he did.
Dave Bratt, tell me about Charlie Kirk.
I've got about a minute here before we go to break.
Particularly the fact that Charlie Kirk focused on young men.
He knew the young men had a very deep spiritual yearning in this country.
Your thoughts, sir?
Yeah, no, he didn't.
You just heard it right there.
You know, and his education to the young men is to give them a sense of strength.
We share in the Judeo-Christian West, the Christian religion, and he shared that.
He shared Jesus Christ more than most pastors do.
It's just stunning.
And he asks and gives all the right answers.
The left does not have a morality.
In case folks don't know, there's no such thing as ethics, right?
dave brat
There's all sorts of systems about that.
unidentified
There are Christian ethics, Kantian ethics, Aristotle.
dave brat
Charlie knew them all.
unidentified
But there's only one that's huge that produces human rights.
And we're not allowed to teach it in the United States of America when all the founders, all the original 13 colonies, you had to be a Christian to serve in government.
And Charlie taught all that.
All the founders of all the universities from Harvard to Yale Princeton were all Christian.
All the presidents, all the Board of Trustees.
Harvard's motto was truth for Christ and church.
Now they're not even for truth.
They're not even Veritas.
And Charlie knew it all.
And we need to turn it upside down, right?
Whoever's paying for this stuff, quit paying and start subsidizing turning points.
Dave, hang on for a second.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
steve bannon
We're going to return.
unidentified
Dave Bratt's with us and hopefully Jack Pesovic.
My name is Robert Bowles, and I am the special agent in charge of the Salt Lake Field Office.
Following yesterday's tragic shooting of Charlie Kirk, FBI agents have been working around the clock in coordination with our law enforcement partners.
We are and will continue to work nonstop until we find the person that has committed this heinous crime and find out why they did it.
This morning I can tell you that we have recovered what we believe is the weapon that was used in yesterday's shooting.
It is a high-powered bolt-action rifle.
That rifle was recovered in a wooded area where the shooter had fled.
So the FBI laboratory will be analyzing this weapon.
Investigators have also collected footwear impression, a palm print, and forearm imprints for analysis.
Now, I understand there are a lot of questions about motive.
I assure you that all leads, tips, and tips are being fully investigated.
As of this morning, we have received more than 130 tips.
We thank the community for that.
Okay.
Stunning.
Wall Street Journal has just come out, Jack Pesovic, and Jack Pesovic joins us now.
steve bannon
Jack Pesovic will be anchoring the noon show as we toss the Charlie Kirk show.
Also, Tyler and Andrew, our guests for the first hour, will be there also.
unidentified
Headline of the Wall Street Journal: Ammunition and Kirk shooting a grave with transgender anti-fascist ideology.
Investigators found ammunition engraved with expressions of transgender and anti-fascist ideology inside the rifle that authorities believe was used in the fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk, according to internal law enforcement bulletin and a person familiar with the investigation, Jack Pasovic.
Your thoughts about where we are in this investigation to find the assassin of Charlie Kirk.
Well, Steve, I think like you and so many others in America today, last night we didn't get a lot of sleep.
And so I've been up all night on the phone with people who are close to Charlie, people who are out there in Salt Lake.
I'm trying to hold it down here, at least in front of the, and for the media side, for the time being, until I can get there.
And I plan to be there soon, at least out west.
Look, one of the very first things that I said in the aftermath of this, after the multiple false starts with capturing this suspect, I said, you know, it wouldn't surprise me if this was somebody who could blend in with a college population and possibly with someone who was younger, college-age.
jack posobiec
This would be in line with the Luigi Maggioni, which we've been talking about.
unidentified
This would be in line with Thomas Matthew Crooks.
jack posobiec
This would be in line with a string of trans shooters, the shooter Westman up at Annunciation Catholic Church in Minneapolis.
unidentified
So it fits a trend and a profile that we have seen and tracked for quite some time now over just the past year, year plus, of these Gen Z types with a pro-trans, anti-Christian, anti-conservative, anti-conservative mindset and ideology, and also fits with the age profile.
In fact, that area, Provo Utah, and Salt Lake City area is known to have a socialist rifle club that I've done reporting on in the past.
And so obviously there's a lot of connections there that we'd want to look into and a lot of questions about how exactly someone, and what we're told is that this was an old style, some of the reports that are coming out, an old style carbine, an old style hunting rifle that is not collapsible.
jack posobiec
So the question is, how was somebody able to get out of the crowd while carrying something like that?
unidentified
At first, I thought perhaps they had a collapsible rifle, would be able to put it fit into a backpack or something like that.
jack posobiec
So a lot of questions as to how this person was able to exfiltrate from the situation.
unidentified
And of course, clearly, clearly well planned in advance.
Access to the roost.
steve bannon
I mean, these universities, you have to have key cards to get in buildings.
unidentified
You have to have key cards, then additional key cards again on top of people just don't have access to so many questions.
I know that the investigators are working on it.
But, you know, we have to face reality here.
Charlie Kirk was executed yesterday in front of the world, doing what he does best.
And this was a good and decent man, besides being one of the greatest leaders this country's ever produced.
Like I said, you have to go back to the revolutionary generation to see a young man that changed the arc of the country.
And I'm not talking about people in the Civil War and World War II that fought and died in combat and are among the greatest heroes we've ever had, but somebody that actually on a political basis at his age did something so profound.
And so who assassinated him, why they did it, and how they did it are of incredible import in this moment in the nation's political history, Jack Bosobic.
steve bannon
And I just want people to, no, we're going to wrap the show up here in a while.
unidentified
And this is why I asked Tyler and Andrew, who, by the way, were magnificent.
It was exactly the way I wanted this show to go to have real insights from people that were near him.
And I'm so honored to be tossing to Jack Bosovic when our show's over this morning.
The threats that you have, the threats that Charlie has, you know, I have threats too, but it's not at the level you guys, and very different.
You have threats, Cozan Tifa, you guys are out there at the tip of the tip of the spear in the moment, in these crowds, particularly college-age crowds and younger crowds.
And people do not understand the courage it takes for a Charlie Kirk to do that every day, the courage it takes for a Jack Posobic to do it, the courage it takes for these other people that engage what are evil people.
steve bannon
They're just evil people.
unidentified
They're not good people.
And they put threats on our people and they try to disrupt.
And yet you guys go out time and time and time again, really in harm's way, sir.
Well, Steve, I mean, that's true, but at the same time, it's, you know, when people, to the world, Charlie Kirk, he's a hero.
He's the conservative firebrand.
But, you know, to many of us, he's our brother.
He's our friend.
And he's somebody whose leadership we have all looked to so many times in the foxhole, fight after fight.
And, you know, they talk about groups of men getting things done.
And I just wanted to, you know, Steve, you and I mentioned this yesterday on the show.
And I pulled up the numbers here for this.
In 1776, the age of the founding fathers, because people are saying Charlie Kirk, he's 31.
He's so young.
He's so young.
And of course he was.
And he was taken from us way too soon.
But listen to this, the age of the founding fathers in 1776.
Thomas Jefferson, 33.
James Madison, 25.
Alexander Hamilton, 21.
James Monroe, 18.
And then Edward Rutledge, 26.
Thomas Lynch, 26.
And then you've got Adams was 40, Washington, 44.
And of course, Benjamin Franklin, the old man, was 70.
jack posobiec
Steve, I don't know if you know anyone who would fit the bill for that.
unidentified
With the young charges.
No, the revolutionary generation was extraordinarily young.
And Charlie Kirk has done something that has not been done really since the revolutionary generation of a young person coming in and building an institution, but having an impact and a plan.
And you're absolutely correct.
And people, you know, a lot of people are going to be going, oh, no, Charlie Kirk this, Charlie Kirk this, particularly some other networks.
In those years in the wilderness in 21 and 22, when President Trump, we were regrouping, if you hadn't had Turning Point, you hadn't had Charlie Kirk, you hadn't had the team that he had, we wouldn't be where we were today.
And as importantly, and what so impressed me was the lessons learned of the stealing of Kerry Lake's election for governor.
They took those lessons, Jack, as you know, and they rethought their model.
And they said, we got to do this in a different way.
And my God, did they do it in a different way?
And that is one of the central reasons Trump won in 2024, sir.
But people have to remember, these are people that are constantly under threats, constantly under abuse, and they did not well.
The easiest thing in the world to do is for Charlie Kirk to go to Silicon Valley and become a billionaire.
steve bannon
Charlie Kirk had the personality, the brains, the ability to network, that kind of energy that draws people in.
unidentified
You can build teams on, which is so important out there.
He didn't do that.
He didn't do that.
And he risked.
He could have had a safe life, been a billionaire, had all the material things because he had a yearning and a need to save his country.
And Jack, you working with him every day, he knew the way to do that was through young men.
That's the thing I keep telling people.
He knew it was going to be the path to turn this country around was through the young men.
And it's just what you guys have accomplished is nothing short of miraculous.
Look, when you look at what Charlie's done and the fights that I've had the honor of being with him, and it's been the honor of my life to stand next to him and fight these fights and to see Charlie in all of them.
And every morning, you know, Steve, we don't usually talk about this, but me, you, and Charlie have a text thread, a group text thread that's been going on for years, you know, at this point.
jack posobiec
And one of the very first things that Charlie will do every single morning when he wakes up, because we're East Coast time, he's West Coast time, he'll send us a Bible verse.
unidentified
And it's, you know, it might be a Proverbs, might be one of the Psalms.
Whatever he's reading might be something from Corinthians.
He loves Corinthians.
And he just does that.
He just, he finds it and then he sends it.
And the thing with Charlie, too, is that you know that when he would go to the Bible, which he would start every morning with, is he's not just going to some list and sending a verse off.
No, he's studying it.
He's understanding the verse, what it means, what the context is, what the context of the time was, the history, how it connects to Old Testament, how it connects to the greater history.
And that's something that, you know, Charlie wasn't doing that for a, it wasn't a gimmick.
jack posobiec
It wasn't a, it wasn't just showmanship.
This was something that Charlie actually lived every single day.
unidentified
And that's why Charlie's not just an American martyr.
jack posobiec
He is a Christian martyr.
unidentified
Charlie's a Christian martyr who stood up for his faith and never backed down from an opportunity to tell, to give his testimony, to give his testimony for the gospel, to give his testimony to Christ.
And that is how we know that Charlie Kirk is, in fact, a Christian martyr as well, because he wove that into every single thing that he did in public and in private.
Jack, I'm going to let you go get ready for the show.
We're going to toss to you at noon.
Tyler and Andrew will be with you.
steve bannon
You've got a show planned that Charlie Kirk showed today.
unidentified
Well, I love it.
A number of people, I'll just say there's some big names that have been reaching out to come on today.
Some big names.
Fantastic.
So we look forward to that.
And Jack Basobic got very little sleep last night.
steve bannon
So, Jack, thank you.
And we will continue our morning.
unidentified
I call it the morning vespers.
It was our editorial call done by text message.
Or every now and again, I'd have to call Pesobic, but no, I'll miss that.
Charlie's verses and Charlie's taking the news every day early, kind of pre-dawn out in the West Coast and very early in the East Coast.
Jack Basovic, Jack, give your social media.
steve bannon
I want to make sure everybody, particularly the large audience we have watching the show today, make sure how they track you.
unidentified
Yeah, we're not posting a lot today.
Just sort of, we're not posting a lot today.
But if you can find, so go follow the postmillennial, gofollohumanevents.com.
I'll post things as it seems appropriate.
I'm told that Charlie Kirk's social media is going to be going dark for a period here as things all get sorted out.
But anything that goes up is absolutely going to be in memorial and in tribute to our fallen friend.
Jack Basobic, honored to have you on here, and I'll toss to you in a few minutes.
Thank you, sir.
God bless.
Aaron Rilla Mercer's voice, and I want to thank Robin Parker Sig for making, we got out here in the middle of the night.
The wee hours of the morning, we're able to set up and do remote, and we're going to try to actually move around today and maybe do it from another location if we can.
Don't know if that's possible logistically, but we'll try and want to thank the Real America's Voice team.
That was the channel in the network of War Room and the Charlie Kirk Show.
steve bannon
We're going to take a short commercial break.
unidentified
We'll return in just a moment.
I talk to a lot of young people on campuses, at our events, on my radio show, podcast, and social media.
Said differently, I visit college campuses, so you don't have to.
We're talking to so many voters that know it is time for change.
They know that something is wrong.
America's future is a series of choices.
Our current state of slow-motion national decline is a choice.
Today is our two-year-old's birthday.
And I look at my daughter, and that is my why.
For those that are parents, you know exactly what I mean.
There is no mountain that stays as tall as your faith folds.
And there's nothing else I'll ever meet.
All my days, your mercy fall.
If the people want it, the people get it.
And we, the people, take back America.
God bless Arizona, and thank you so much.
Four, three, two, one.
The great Charlie Kirk right there, Real America's Voice, fantastic tribute.
There'll be many more of them.
But the most important thing, I think, for Charlie right now is to finish what he started.
This guy was a warrior and was assassinated.
Remember that.
Assassinated.
Executed.
The Wall Street Journal story.
And I couldn't really get to it during the show, and we'll get to it this afternoon, I promise.
steve bannon
It's explosive.
unidentified
If Grayson Moe can push that story out now, everybody's got to read it because this clearly came from people on the investigation.
Very, very, very explosive.
Dave Bratt, your summary thoughts.
steve bannon
We're going to pitch in a second to the Charlie Kirk show here on Real America's Voice.
unidentified
Jack Pesobic sitting in with Tyler Boyer and Andrew Colvett today.
Your thoughts, sir?
Yeah, in summary, I think the guys that work with him said it best.
He's just a good man.
He's a good man.
Three things came out of the show today from Charlie.
God, freedom, and the United States of America.
Boy, he wants a revival of all three.
God, freedom, and the United States of America.
Our rights have been trounced.
President Trump in his tribute the other day said in his prayer breakfast, said the United States is strong when religion's strong and religion's getting weak and the United States is becoming weak.
And that's been the show all day today.
And so the CIA, the FBI, they've been doing color revolutions on everyone in the world on the United States of America.
I want consequences now for this death.
And I don't want it to just be some patsy or whatever.
I want to go deep.
So I wish the CIA and our intelligence agencies and the FBI would do a deep dive on everything, all this.
There's too many common denominators coming up, and none of it is helping the American middle class, right?
So we got great people leading.
Tulsi's awesome, but the rest of them, I got some questions.
So we want some consequences fast on all of it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There'll be much more throughout the day that we'll push, and we'll be back here at five o'clock.
Dave, Brad, social media, before we let you go, and we'll see you back here.
We'll see you back here this afternoon.
Yep, great.
Yeah, just Brad Economics, Getter, and X. Thank you, brother.
Appreciate you.
Dave, Brad.
Raheem Kassam is going to join us this afternoon.
We're going to have others that knew Charlie well and also people that can give us insights into this investigation.
In fact, what I want to do, the TRT of the, I want to play that Real America's voice clip at the end of this.
So if it's about a minute and a half, we'll cut to that a minute and a half.
Just tell me the TRT.
Minute 26.
See, this is how we do the war room.
You put it together and coordinate and my crack producer.
So at a minute 26, I'm going to toss to that amazing reel put together by the Real America's Voice team.
And I want to thank them for that.
Jack Basobic will be, we'll take the show over at, we're not doing a live handoff, right?
We're just going to toss to, we're just going to toss to the show.
Jack's not up, right?
Jack's gone?
I'm just asking questions, though.
We'll play the thing and then they'll take it at six.
So this afternoon, right at noon, as we do every day, we're going to toss to the Charlie Kirk show.
Remember, we set it up to have a block of two hours of the war room, two hours of Charlie.
He did another hour on radio, but then go right to Jack Bosobic.
So we used to call it the Power Five, right?
Five hours of populist nationalism.
And Jack's right, every morning we'd had a text stream of which we'd go over some of the things we were going to cover and kind of give insights of what we thought the day was going to be.
And Charlie would consistently put up a in that start with a Bible verse, something he was reading or something he was studying.
He's a man that understood the holy word of God, both the Old Testament and the New Testament, very thoroughly and lived it.
And I think it's so appropriate that the last weekend of his life in Korea, spreading the word, Meena Kim's tremendous conference, think about that.
With everything else he's got going on to fly to Korea and to do that, to spread the word, because he knew that our Korean brethren, our brothers and sisters in Korea, are under tremendous pressure from the Chinese Communist Party.
And Charlie Kirk had a great sense of the moment and a great sense of geopolitics.
So we're going to leave you today.
We're going to toss.
We're going to play this memorial and we're going to toss to Jack Bosobic, to Tyler Boyer, to Andrew Covet.
They're going to take the Charlie Kirk show from here.
So let's go ahead and play the tribute to Charlie Kirk.
We'll be back at 5 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time from Utah, live from Utah.
I talk to a lot of young people on campuses, at our events, on my radio show, podcast, and social media.
Said differently, I visit college campuses, so you don't have to.
We're talking to so many voters that know it is time for change.
They know that something is wrong.
America's future is a series of choices.
Our current state of slow-motion national decline is a choice.
Today is our two-year-old's birthday.
And I look at my daughter, and that is my why.
For those that are parents, you know exactly what I mean.
There is no mountain that stands tall as your faithful.
And there's nothing else I'll ever be all my days.
Your mercy falls.
If the people want it, the people get it.
And we, the people, take back America.
God bless Arizona.
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