Bannon's War Room - Episode 4769: The Assassination Of Charlie Kirk

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Sept. 10, 2025 - Bannon's War Room

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Episode 4769: The Assassination Of Charlie Kirk

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jack posobiec

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steve bannon

20:01

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03:16

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04:53

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unidentified		Donald Trump has just posted on his social media platform, Truth Social, the following quote, the great and even legendary Charlie Kirk is dead.
		No one understood or had the heart of the youth in the United States Of America better than Charlie.
		He was loved and admired by all, especially me, and now he is no longer with us.
nicolle wallace ▲ ● ▼		Melania and my sympathies go out to his beautiful wife Erica, and family.
nicolle wallace ▲ ● ▼		Charlie, we love you again, Donald Trump President.
unidentified		Donald Trump just posting on his social media platform news that Charlie Kirk, conservative activist, has died in today's shootings von Hilliard.
unidentified		Wednesday 10th September, in the year of earlier 2025.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		No, Charlie Kirk did not die.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Charlie Kirk was assassinated today in Utah.
unidentified		Doing what Charlie Kirk does, he's hosting one of his, not just the show today.
		They did that from from the Phoenix studio, but Charlie was dialed in from part of it and was doing his show live, what he always does, which is debating college kids and bringing the word of the MAGA movement to the nation.
		When he was gunned down in cold blood.
		Jack Vasovic joins me.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Jack, your thoughts.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It happened during the shooting itself.
unidentified		Jack, happened during your show.
		Tell me about it.
		Well, it did, and and you know we were getting the information in fast and furious and a lot of signal or a lot of noise.
		You know it's hard to separate that from the signal.
		We do have signal.
		At this point and right now all I can say is, from Tanya and myself, our thoughts and prayers absolutely go out to Erica, to the children, to everyone in Charlie's family, the team who was there and we're.
		We're working behind the scenes as far as much as possible to find out exactly what happened, to find out exactly who did this.
		Charlie cold blood, Charlie Kirk was assassinated in cold blood today and Charlie Kirk was and is one of my best friends on this planet and Charlie Kirk is a hero.
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼		Charlie Kirk was the hero America need.
unidentified		When America needed a hero, God sent us a Charlie Kirk to move the youth in 2024 to do the heavy lift that nobody else could do, what he did with the campus and everything else in Arizona and Pennsylvania and all the costs two states with the ground game.
unidentified		We would president Trump been very difficult, if not impossible, if he did not have the ground game of turning point and the efforts of Charlie Kirk.
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼		And after, after Butler, I said to Charlie, I said, Charlie, are you sure you still want to keep doing these and and he said, he said Jack, I'm never going to quit.
unidentified		He wasn't going to quit.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I mean you see that today today, at the was the University OF UTAH Valley University, out right south of Salt Lake City.
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Charlie Kirk, it was about two o'clock, it was in your show, so it was like 215 Eastern Daylight Time, so I guess it was 1215, when he would normally have this huge, massive crowd.
unidentified		I want to make sure everybody understands that the, The individuals in that tweet, the older guy, looks like it's not the shooter.
		The shooter has not been apprehended.
		We do not.
		So President Trump has just announced that all flags to be lowered half-mast until Sunday evening at 6 p.m. in honor of Charlie Kirk.
		And yes, Steve, to your point, the shooter who, or the person who was originally suspected of being the shooter that was making the rounds online, some reporting now that that's not the shooter.
		Obviously, I'm in touch with, look, everybody knows I'm close to this one.
		We're all close to this one.
		We're in touch with everyone we're in touch with.
		As of right now, what we're being told is that that's not the guy.
		I want to say also, you can see from the video and the shot, Charlie was in very bad shape from the beginning.
		And I want to give a shout out to the people around him that headed the emergency crew.
		I think he was airlifted.
		They worked nonstop on this.
		Look, they gave him the immediate care, but that kind of hit is something, and everybody I know in the military, special forces guys, started calling me up.
		They said, I've seen guys take hits like that on the battlefield.
		And when you have an exit wound like that, it is a very, very hard wound to try to save someone's life just because of the quickness, because of the pressure, the oxygen to the brain.
		This is something where it's something where it just absolutely breaks your heart because when you're there, you know what's happening and there's nothing you can do about it.
		No, by the way, it is a battlefield.
		I mean, Charlie Kirk was a warrior.
		Charlie Kirk wasn't going to back down.
		After the Butler assassination attempt last summer, you warned him, other people warned him that, hey, Charlie, you're the most exposed person in anybody in this movement because Charlie would, it looked like a couple of times a week, go into these crowds.
		And look at that crowd today at Utah Valley University.
		It had to be a couple of thousand people, four or five thousand.
		No, he knew.
		No, no, no, no, no, no.
		He knew.
		He always knew.
		And he knew, and he would say, I need to do it anyway because it has to be done.
		And if I don't do it, who else will?
		Because he had a drive, he had a spirit, he was a builder, he was a father, a husband, and he had this, unlike no one I've ever met, maybe outside of this room, where he just would never stop.
		And you could be, it could be two in the morning.
		I could send Charlie a texti technique right back.
		100%.
		Two in the morning, three in the morning.
		The only time he would take Saturday off for the family.
		Except for Saturday.
		Saturday, of course, Saturday, if you need him, you go to Erica.
		And that was the time he said, that's my time.
		I want to be with God.
		I want to pray.
		I want to unplug.
		But my point is, is that this guy would never stop working.
		24-7 operation, 24-6.
		And keep going.
		The movement that Charlie Kirk started will never end.
		The movement of the youth, the movement to save this country, the movement to ignite a fire for freedom and liberty across this republic.
		And by the way, the way that he always spoke so forcefully for Christ Jesus, that whenever chance he had to give his testimony for what he believed in and who he believed in and to lift up God's name, Charlie was always the first one to do so.
		So I know, obviously, people are shocked today.
		When we left you a couple hours ago, what did I do?
		What I always do at the end of the show in the morning is toss to Charlie Kirk for two hours of populist nationalism, followed by Jack Pesovic, Steve Gruber, Eric Bowling, then back to the war room.
		It just shows you, hey, every minute's precious for people, particularly for people in this movement and people at the tip of the spear.
		I realize everybody's rattled by this.
		Charlie Kirk being assassinated, shot down in cold blood for the entire world to see.
		The shooter is not apprehended yet.
		Yes, there's going to be prayers and mourning and half staff in nurturing the widow and a ceremony.
		But we have to have steely resolve, right?
		Charlie Kirk's a casualty of war.
		We're in this country.
		We are.
		And the mocking that you had on MSNBC today was completely and totally inappropriate by Matthew Dowd and the owners of MSNBC ought to know he ought to be removed immediately and never come back on that channel.
		His comments earlier today, when we first heard that Charlie was shot, right?
		And Katie Turre was trying to do her best job, right, given the circumstances, but you have a guest like on there.
		We need steely resolve.
		Charlie Kirk is a casualty of the political war going on in this country.
	He was gunned down in cold blood.
	Gunned down in cold blood.
	And you have to have steely resolve about this.
	Charlie Kirk never, what did he do?
	He would say, if you disagree, come to the front of the line.
	Because he wanted to have a conversation.
	Charlie Kirk never raised a hand in anger.
	Never once.
	He said, come out here.
	He would say, Change.
	He was a happy warrior.
	He's a happy warrior every single time.
	I never saw him.
	You had conviction.
	You know, he had conviction.
	He was tough as nails, but he never once did so.
	He never once came off the stage.
	Go find hundreds of hours of video.
	He never did it.
	Never once.
	No matter how crazy, no matter how nuts, whatever he was being faced with, he would always sit there and he would hold his ground and hold frame and do so with the peace of Christ.
	He had a gift from God.
	He had an absolute gift from God.
	And for, you know, these are the reasons that we'll never be able to really get the answers of, but God called him home today.
	Well, it's, you know, it's your fate and your destiny, right?
	Charlie Kirk.
	And Charlie Kirk knew what he was getting into in doing this, right?
	Charlie Kirk was at the tip of the spear, never flinched, never backed off.
	You never heard any whining from Charlie Kirk.
	I mean, we would have texts, and it was a lot of stuff, you know, we didn't always totally agree on.
	The text message chains were Charlie Kirk all hours of the night, always trying to learn, right?
	Always trying to move the ball forward, but always doing it with a, in a very upbeat spirit, right?
	In a way that was, he's a glass half-full guy, right?
	And the organization he built, that's why I attracted so many college kids.
	And it started with college kids, but it built all over the events themselves now, two big events, one in the summer and of course the event right before Christmas in Phoenix are the most important events of the calendar for the conservative movement.
	It's a who's who comes on the stage, including President Trump came on last December.
	And on that stage, for the first time, President Trump told that audience, because of what Charlie Kirk brings and the intensity he brings, President Trump told us why he ran for office.
	It was because he knew the 2020 election was stolen.
	And he says, I had to come back and make sure that if we let that go, we weren't going to have a republic.
	And that's the power of what Charlie Kirk built.
	Charlie Kirk was a warrior to the end.
	If you see his last moments of maybe consciousness before he was shot, what did he have?
	He picked up a mic to respond.
	He died fighting.
	This is a man who died fighting.
	Charlie Kirk died fighting, not for himself.
	Charlie Kirk died fighting for you.
	Charlie Kirk died fighting for Jesus.
	Charlie Kirk died fighting for this country.
	And he did so knowing, knowing full well that he wasn't just staring down at a microphone or some liberals.
	He knew about Butler.
	He knew everything about it.
	I've talked to him about it a million times.
	He knew.
	And by the way, just because we have – He knew about the security too because he says, hey, I can't get too much security because it cuts me off from the young people.
	It cuts me off from the crowd.
	Charlie was a people person.
	That's why today, when you saw that tent, the people are right there in front of him, right?
	And they're in the line and they're tossing back and forth.
	And Charlie's giving as good as he gets.
	He was answering.
	He picked up the microphone to answer to respond to something he didn't agree with, right?
	That the individual.
	If you disagree, you come in the front.
	Every time I did an event with him, he'd always say, Disagree, you come to the front.
	We did Penn State last year.
	We did, by the way, just because I haven't said it yet to Charlie's mom and dad, his mother and father, that obviously our prayers are absolutely with you, the entire Kirk family, and we need to get to the bottom of this right now.
	Need to get a bottom up, but he went out as a hero.
	What did you say?
	The hero American needs right now.
	When America needed a hero, God sent us Charlie Kirk.
	As a fighter.
	When America needed a hero, God sent us Charlie Kirk.
	He sent us Donald Trump.
	Some say that we're not sure who sent us Steve Bannon, but we got to ban him.
	I'm not in that league.
	But I'll tell you, the Trump, they came for him twice.
	You saw it in Butler when they tried to gun him down in cold blood in Butler assassination temp, another one later.
	Look, look.
	And Charlie Kirk, I don't want to hear Charlie Kirk is dead.
	I don't want to hear that Charlie Kirk died today.
	Charlie Kirk was assassinated.
	An assassin's bullet cut him down.
	Single shot.
	Single shot at 31 years old.
	Yeah, at 200 yards, what we're hearing.
	So it was not a rookie, right?
	It was somebody who knew how to use a weapon.
	Charlie Kirk was cut down by an assassin's bullet, right?
	In the prime of his life.
	In the prime of his life.
	Top of his game.
	Just when he got going.
	Go ahead.
	I just want to say, I mean, beyond all that, he's our friend.
	This is one of our friends.
	And when you come for one of our friends, that's it.
	That's it.
	Gloves are off.
	Gloves are.
	You thought that before was bad, that we went hard.
	You just took away one of our friends.
	And that's something that requires.
	But people have to expect this.
	Look at Luigi.
	Mangiona says.
	You get MAGA or get Mangioni.
	That's a nice point.
	And Mangioni, the Mangionis are now taking out the MAGAs.
	And Mangione.
	And Mangioni is considered a hero by those guys.
	I tell folks all the time: you got Mangioni and you got Mam Donnie, who's a.
	It's the Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks.
	Exactly.
	So you see what they're doing.
	And Luigi and Mangioni is treated as a cult hero by these people.
	Yeah, so tell me again.
	Tell me again about, oh, Pesobic and Bannon and the rhetoric.
	Oh, the rhetoric.
	You're so upset.
	Oh, because I used the word unhumans.
	Yeah, what word would you ascribe to an act like this?
	It's unhuman.
	Okay?
	That's what we're living through.
	You think I want to do this with my time?
	You think I got kids?
	You think I want to be here?
	This is what you have done to our country.
	Exactly.
	And what comes next is on you too.
	And we're not going to back off an inch.
	Anybody think if you're going to back off, then this is not for you.
	Charlie Kirk gave his life for a country.
	He's on the battlefield of political combat, okay?
	And they cut him down with an assassin's bullet.
	Let's be blunt about this.
	They cut him down with an assassin's bullet.
	I guess we're going to take a break here.
	We're going to take a short commercial break.
	We've got John Solomon, a couple of three other people are going to join us.
	Hopefully the great Matt Boyle.
	Jack Pesobic, one of Charlie's best friends and best partners, is with us.
	And we're going to take a short break and return in a moment.
	You're in the war room.
	That man did what he did.
	We don't know how to deal with people who are hurting in the way this man was hurting.
	Hurt people hurt people.
	What happened was horrible.
	No one mentioned the word race, white, black, or anything except him.
	Okay, that was Van Jones.
	What do you say about this Van Jones situation?
	Really, Van Jones?
	Really?
	And all of them.
	All the people out there.
	They want to blame Charlie Kirk.
	They want to blame Charlie Kirk, who never hurt anybody in his life.
	Charlie Kirk, who always stood up for truth, and he did so with his voice.
	He didn't do so with his hands.
	He didn't do so in violence.
	He didn't do any of this.
	And what was Charlie talking about?
	A woman being standing up.
	The woman being stabbed to death.
	Where's your energy for that, Van Jones?
	What you think?
	You think people are worried about when they go on a subway late at night that they're worried about being surrounded by Charlie Kirks?
	They're looking over their shoulder for Charlie Kirk.
	No, I don't think so, Van Jones.
	I don't think so at all.
	So now my wife has got to go reach out to Erica because as close as they are, and now you got to, now we have to deal with this.
	But no, it's all Charlie Kirk's fault, right, Van Jones?
	It's all Charlie Kirk's fault.
	And all the rest of it, what was the MSNBC saying, oh, Charlie Kirk, he ginned up the rhetoric and he did all this.
	Shooters still at large, by the way, as far as we know.
	There's a manhunt, they're saying, and we've been in contact with FBI and all the rest.
	So it's all this, right?
	Or what did they say?
	It was, you know, it was maybe a guy, a MAGA guy who was getting up.
	Come here, break.
	We know where the violence is coming from.
	From Butler to West Palm and now to Salt Lake City, Utah.
	No.
	No.
	This is the Mangionis.
	This is the unhumans.
	This is the sick, pervasive violence that's going on by the blood in the streets and the blood of Charlie Kirk now.
	Just like the blood of Trump a year ago, less than a year ago.
	Charlie Kirk.
	Just over a year.
	Charlie Kirk was not killed today.
	Charlie Kirk was assassinated in cold blood.
	And they're going to sit there and say, they're going to sit there and say, oh, well, it's the war room.
	It's the Charlie Kirk show.
	Talking about COVID, talking about, no.
	Steal yourself, folks.
	Steal yourself.
	Now's the time.
	This is a moment we need to show strength.
	Okay?
	Need to show strength.
	Matt Boyle.
	Talk about the strong.
	Matt Boyle, your thoughts.
	You've covered Charlie from the very beginning.
	I happened to sit in, I think, one of Charlie Kirk's first pitches when he started Turning Point with a couple of people very closely associated with Breitbart.
	And let's say he went up a steep learning curve.
	That's the kind of guy he was.
	Your thoughts, Matt?
	Yeah, by the way, before he even started Turning Point, he was working for Breitbart, like way back in the day, as far back as when he was in high school, as far back as 2012, back when I was first starting at Breitbart.
	So I remember we actually just published this a few minutes ago.
	There's an email he sent us back when he was a high school student in 2012.
	And when he reached out to Breitbart, like a cold reach out to want to join the cause.
	And he was inspired by Andrew Breitbart.
	He always talked about that.
	I've known him very closely.
	Look, you're 100% right.
	I was just watching your segment there with Jack.
	This was a political assassination.
	This was like an assassination of Martin Luther King or JFK or something like that.
	This needs to be a wake-up call and a clarion call.
	A clarion call, but particularly for this generation, one of our younger producers, because we have them, they're very young here at the war room.
	He told me, he says, this assassination will be a formational event for my generation, right?
	The generation under 30, under 35 years old.
	This is your moment.
	Charlie Kirk represented you.
	Charlie Kirk built a, he came in with a crazy idea.
	I want to take over student governments.
	This is when he first came to Breitbart.
	I want to take over student governments in college and then in high schools, right?
	And what you have now is a political powerhouse, a grassroots, not just grassroots powerhouse as far as delivering Matt Boyle, but also thought leaders.
	Remember, he had the pastors, he would have thinkers, he had so many different aspects of turning point.
	He's built a massive machine through his personality and force of will, right?
	And for that generation under 35.
	And remember, Charlie Kirk gave his life for you.
	Where was he?
	On a college campus.
	What was he doing?
	What Charlie Kirk does every day, debating, right?
	Using ideas, coming back, and he picked up the microphone.
	His last act on earth, right, was picking up a microphone to rebut something that he heard from one of the people, as Jack says.
	If you don't agree with me, come to the front of the line.
	That's the kind of people he took, Matt Boyle.
	Yeah, this is a really emotional moment for a lot of those young people, including myself, right?
	I'm a little older than Charlie, but the fact is, you know, I think everybody's going to look back on this moment and remember where you were, right?
	Like, remember where you were when JFK was killed.
	You're going to remember where you were when Charlie Kirk was assassinated.
	And the fact is that I think that his mission is now all of our mission, right?
	We can't let him die in vain.
	We have to carry on his mission.
	And then the other thing is, is that the radical left, frankly, there is no differentiation anymore between the radical left and the Democrat Party.
	The Democrat Party is rotten from top to bottom.
	They've been corrupted by the radical left.
	They've been taken over.
	They've been subsumed.
	Maybe one day we'll get to a place where we have two parties again that are reasonable, but we don't have a reasonable Democrat Party anymore.
	Democrats are not reasonable, right?
	Like the fact is, is that they have created this culture that you heard the establishment media people out there like Van Jones and like the MSNBC crowd.
	I don't know if you saw this, but in the immediate aftermath of it, you saw people on MSNBC suggesting, oh, it might have just been Charlie Kirk's supporters just shooting their guns off.
	And, you know, that was Matt Dowd.
	And Matt Dowd is, remember, folks, embrace this, embrace this, folks.
	Matt Dowd is not a leftist.
	Matt Dowd, let's get that up.
	Matt Dowd was a Bush Republican.
	And today, what he said, today what he said on MSNBC is unforgivable of what he said.
	When Charlie Kirk's life was hanging in the balance, when they medevaced him out, they helicoptered him out, and the doctors and nurses are sitting there trying to save his life.
	This is what Matt Dowd, this is the kind of thing Matt Dowd said, right?
	So it's unforgivable, but you're exactly correct.
	This was a political assassination, and it's a political assassination trying to target the young people in this country because they understand that the power of MAGA, the power of our movement is not a bunch of boomers.
	The power of our movement is coming from the young.
	And that's where the energy is.
	And they understand this changes American politics and saves our country.
	This is what Trump came back for.
	This is where he returned for.
	He returned to save the country and make it great again.
	Go ahead, sir.
	Yeah, and I think that this is not, they're not going to succeed, right?
	Like, I think that what's going to happen is, because I'm telling you, I'm getting the messages right now from people across this movement.
	Hold it, hold it.
	The future is undetermined, Matt.
	Today at 11.59 a.m. Eastern Daylight Time, I tossed it to Charlie Kirk to do the show like every day.
	Two hours of populist nationalism coming in hot with Charlie Kirk.
	The future is unformed.
	We have to form it.
	We will win if we don't flinch.
	We will win if we don't sit there and start sucking our thumbs and get in the fetal position.
	Okay.
	Where I'm going.
	Charlie Kirk was assassinated today.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead, brother.
	Yeah, where I'm going with that point, Steve, is that I think that the emotional, the raw emotion of this, right?
	Like, I mean, look, I'll be honest with you.
	I'm not really an emotional guy, but this has hit me pretty hard.
	I knew Charlie very well.
	It's hit me very hard in the last couple hours here since I've been processing the news.
	I've been trying to get the details of what happened, but I mean, this is just terrible.
	And I'll tell you, this gives me more fight.
	It gives everyone else across the right, everyone I'm talking to, is newly inspired by Charlie's mission, right?
	Like, and I think that we have to not let him die in vain.
	We carry his mission on.
	Everything he stood for, he stood for what Breitbart believes in, what the War Imposse believes in.
	I mean, this is a guy who built his entire career.
	I mean, he's 31 years old.
	He's younger than any of us.
	But again, his entire life and career was built in this movement, this America First MAGA movement.
	I've been going back through in the last hour or so here, some old interviews I did with him where he's talking about things like immigration and he's talking about things like standing up to China and on trade and building out a political movement and voter fraud and all this kind of stuff.
	I think that it's even bigger than just young people, right?
	Like, I mean, Charlie Kirk and everything that he stands for is going to, I don't think that the mission of whoever conducted this assassination, and we don't have all those details yet, but clearly they were trying to silence him while he's debating, right?
	Like, I don't think they'll succeed.
	I think his message is going to become, you know, even more profound now after this.
	Because again, this feels a lot like a JFK or an MLK type moment, right?
	Like in our country.
	And we're all going to remember where we were the day Charlie Kirk was assassinated and when we heard the news and how we heard the news.
	Matt Boyle, where do people go on social media to get you?
	I know you guys are putting up stuff with Charlie.
	A great reminder that Charlie first came to Breitbart when he had the idea.
	And people associate with Breitbart getting back of him and put the seeds in that came up with the turning point.
	That was one of the critical, and not the critical element to winning the 2024 election.
	Where do people go, Matt, today to get to your social media and get all the great news over at Breitbart?
	Well, first off, Breitbart.com, our team is working around the clock.
	And then also my ex-Twitter account is at MBoyal1, and my true social is at RealMatt Boyle.
	But yeah, our team is working very hard and we're trying to get all the details and the facts.
	And then we're going to see where this goes.
	But I'm telling you, the emotion here is raw.
	And I think that a match has been lit in America.
	And I think that the American right, especially young people, are not going to take this.
	Not going to take it.
	The last day, I talked to Charlie on the Sunday before I went to prison on Monday on July 1st.
	And Charlie said, how are you going to do it?
	Because we lead into the show.
	How are you going to do the show?
	Who's going to be the host?
	I said, Charlie, next man up, right?
	Is that not the message for Charlie's generation?
	Next man or woman up.
	Matt Boyle, thank you so much.
	Appreciate you coming on.
	Jack Bisobic's riding shotgun with me in this hour.
	I want to thank Real America's Voice, everybody, for their coverage today.
	Real America's Voice, because of the closeness, obviously, with Charlie Kirk, broke the news.
	I think it was on the Eric Bowling show, John Solomon, et cetera.
	We're going to try to get John Solomon up.
	We need to find the assassin.
	We need to get to the bottom of this.
	We also have to make sure that the best way to remember Charlie Kirk is to carry on his work at the level Charlie Kirkwood.
	Short break.
	Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
	Charlie Kirk on one level is totally irreplaceable.
	Is it not, Jack Visovic?
	Look, Charlie Kirk is 101.
	And Charlie Kirk, there's never going to be another Charlie Kirk.
	But you know what else is going to happen?
	There is never going to be another assassin to take out someone like the way they did because of what comes next.
	And because what comes next will be swift, will be quick, and it will be retribution.
	And that's it.
	Next man up, as far as everybody, you know, Charlie's organization, all of it right now, particularly this younger generation that Charlie was one of the top one or two leaders of, they're going to test your metal and they're going to test it right now.
	John Solomon joins us.
	John, you working your contacts with the FBI, et cetera, were incredibly helpful to finding out early exactly what was going on.
	Give us your assessment and what do we know about the shooter?
	Yeah, we don't know much because he's not in custody as of yet.
	It looks like a professional hit job from quite a ways away.
	Long shot, probably high-powered rifle, able to pierce the arteries in the neck.
	So someone who's professional, it appears.
	That's what the FBI's early assessment is.
	We're a long way from knowing a lot.
	Holy name.
	It's a moment of wrecking in our country.
	You're using a term.
	You've used it twice now.
	You're saying this, I mean, it was a long distance and the shot hit one of the most susceptible places as a kill shot.
	You're saying you use the word professional.
	What do you mean by that?
	Someone who knew how to handle a gun.
	It wasn't someone that just got a spur-of-the-moment idea and was going to go shoot Charlie.
	It looks like it's from a longer distance, maybe from a building or window away.
	We're still learning stuff and in the fog of war takes some time.
	So we're going to have to sort this out.
	But the early assessment of law enforcement officials I talked to is that this looked like somebody who knew how to kill and knew how to handle a gun and knew how to set up in a way that they could assassinate someone and then possibly get away, which is what they initially have done.
	They don't have anyone in custody yet.
	So a lot to be learned, a lot to be learned.
	We're going to learn this story.
	We'll turn.
	John, in your discussions with law enforcement, we've seen some reports out there regarding range.
	Now, obviously, it's still early on on that, but have you been able to confirm any of the current assessments on how far they think the shooter was?
	They don't believe the shooter was in the crowd.
	The angle of shot suggested it was probably an elevated location, which would have to be a little bit further off, much like what we saw with President Trump's attempted assassination in Butler, where someone gets on a roof or in a window.
	But they really don't, I don't, as of 40 minutes ago, they had not located the shooting scene Yet.
	So perhaps this person cleaned their brass up or they don't have the right location yet, but it seems to be an elevated shot from a distance.
	How far distance?
	It's hard to say yet because they don't have the shooting location.
	They don't have the origination of the crime scene.
	The fact that the fact that it was at a distance, it appears that was close to being perfectly placed, and that they have not found him.
	So this is someone who had thought through how to exit.
	It leads you to believe it's just not some random, at the last minute, emotional like some of these school shootings we've seen or some of these other shootings we're seeing.
	That it is something, it looks like somebody that really knew their way around weapons and the way around getting a shot off and getting away, John Solomon?
	I think that's the early assessment.
john solomon ▲ ● ▼		Early assessments change, but there is some belief that this was intentional and thought out perhaps a little bit.
unidentified		Now, on a college campus, in the chaos, it's easy to escape even if you're not a professional.
unidentified		So let's wait and see what they come up with.
john solomon ▲ ● ▼		But some of the early assessments of the shot, the way where it landed, where it came from, suggests that there's some intentionality and maybe some marksman expertise in this.
unidentified		Let's wait and see what it looks like.
		And I was with Charlie just two weeks ago in Colorado, and he talked about, you know, he gets all threats all the time and it doesn't deter him.
		He didn't take these threats seriously.
		He said something profound to me, and that is, I said to him, you know, I look at these Gen Z numbers and you've had a generational change on America.
		And he said to me, oh, you're being so dramatic, John.
		Listen, it's not that simple, not that complex.
		What I did is we talk about all people needed, all young people needed was a little moral support.
		People willing to stand shoulder to shoulder to him and say, it's okay to be conservative, to believe in freedom, believe in the goodness of America, believe in life, believe in God, and not be bullied by teachers or friends.
		In such extraordinary fashion, he could summarize how simple and yet how extraordinary the mission he set out to.
		And I went to one of his first conferences.
		He invited me down when he was like 20.
john solomon ▲ ● ▼		I think it was in Florida, in Palm Beach.
unidentified		It was like 200 kids in the audience.
		And now you look, and every year Charlie's organization is reaching tens of thousands of people.
		And he never saw it as anything more than a simple job of just giving people moral support.
john solomon ▲ ● ▼		I found that remarkably refreshing when I talked to him two weeks ago.
unidentified		John, are you going to follow us at 6 o'clock?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		What is your social media?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Because you break a lot of news up there, sir.
unidentified		Yes, sir.
		Jay Solomon reports on all platforms.
		And of course, justinnews.com is the news website.
		Thank you.
		Appreciate you, John Solomon.
		Pasovic, you probably spent more time on the road with Charlie, more time working on things.
		The two shows backed up, but you guys were in constant communication, plotting, strategizing, executing.
		Your thoughts on tell us who Charlie Kirk was.
		Charlie was always thinking.
		Charlie was always, he was more of a chess player than people realize because he could see angles and he could think three moves ahead, four moves ahead, knew how to take that bang shot.
		Boom, boom, boom, triple rail bank shot, and he was going to make it.
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼		If something was in his way, he was either going to take it down or he was going to get around it because he would see these things coming.
unidentified		And there's so just so many stories behind the scenes that people don't even know.
		Things that Charlie has never talked about publicly once, things that he's been involved in, conversations, decisions, plans that beyond turning point, right?
		The amount of lives that he touched, even beyond politics, the amount of stuff that he did just as a good person for people is unlistable.
		It's innumerable.
		And the fact that they would take something, someone like that away, the fact that they would take someone like that away from this world.
		What do you mean?
		From their perspective, Charlie Kirk was one of the top two or three people in the entire MAGA movement, right?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		These people are vicious.
unidentified		They're playing for keeps.
		Of course, Charlie Kirk, that's why when you gave the warning that Charlie was a target, is because how many, go back to American history.
		How many individuals in their 20s?
		Because the formation of this generation started years ago with Charlie Kirk.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		How many people have done to a generation when they're in that generation as far as leadership go?
unidentified		I think no one really comes to mind right now except for Charlie Kirk.
		Well, I would just say, you know, when you think of, you know, coming from Philadelphia, that you look at the age of a lot of the founders and the founding generation.
		Exactly, exactly.
		And you see guys in their 20s and 30s, and it was young men.
		That was a Charlie Kirk who stepped up at the age of Jefferson when he writes the Declaration when he went, and we're coming up on the 250th in just a couple of months here.
		And you look at that age, and there's something about that age where you're just hitting your stride.
		You're in your prime.
		You're on the top of the world.
		You've got your health.
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼		He was so healthy, Steve.
unidentified		Charlie Kirk was biohacking, loved Maha, health nut, cold plunge every day kind of guy.
		I mean, half the time, you know, he didn't drink caffeine.
		That Starbucks cup, that's tea.
		That's not coffee.
		Didn't drink caffeine.
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼		He's been off of cat.
unidentified		He was off of caffeine for a year, I think.
		And just, you know, he really focused on what goes into his body and really focused on health and nutrition and was always talking about that.
		Funny, behind the scenes, you know, we would talk about that just as much as we would talk about politics or, you know, argue theology and debate back and forth, all of these various things.
		And I mean, they took my friend away.
		You took my friend away.
		What is it?
		And let me just go ahead.
		I was at the Museum of the Bible earlier this week with President Trump.
		And President Trump, he got there and he said America needs to pray again and America has to have the prayer initiative.
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼		But he also talked about this horrific situation with the young Ukrainian girl down in Charlotte.
unidentified		And he said something.
		He said, sometimes you have to do horrible things to stop horrible things.
		And we are now living through the era of horrible things.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Does September of 2025 change things?
unidentified		What's happened in this month alone?
		Does it send things in a different direction?
		Last night I tweeted out that the Overton window has been stabbed to death.
		The Overton window just got assassinated.
		The Overton window is gone.
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼		It is completely gone.
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼		There is a gaping hole with blood gushing out of it now, where the Overton window used to be.
unidentified		I'm done.
unidentified		I'm done playing these games.
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼		I'm done playing games.
unidentified		No more games.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		The 60, people would argue, and people do argue that the end of American greatness came with the assassination of President Kennedy.
unidentified		And then you had the 60s with Martin Luther King.
		You had Bobby Kennedy, Malcolm X.
		They then eventually got to George Wallace.
		We had a string of political assassinations.
		In Maryland, right?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		In Maryland.
unidentified		He did not die.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		He was felled by an assassin's bullet, didn't die.
unidentified		A couple of times, they came after Jerry Ford at close range.
		You had Reagan down here at the Hilton.
		President Reagan got shot at close range and came so close to death.
		Is this an inflection point for the country when somebody is prominent as Charlie Kirk, particularly in this movement and one of the driving forces in this movement, as far as not just an activist, but an intellectual, a leader, and somebody that's done something to a generation that you have not really seen in American history, really changed the politics of a generation, right?
		When President, when we talk about President Trump passing the baton back, not just to who will follow him, but to generations, two or three generations, four generations in back of him, you get the Charlie Kirks.
		Is this an inflection point, not just in our movement, but in the country's history?
		And the country's history will never be the same, though.
		The country, we were on one path, now we're on another.
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼		The legacy of Charlie Kirk now will forever, forever be tied together with this violence.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼		We'll be tied together with the violence and the carnage of this period.
unidentified		And there is no way that you can talk about this period ever without having to talk about the violent, radical Marxist left that has been conducting killings in the street, killings on college campuses, attempted killings in fields in Butler.
		There is no way that you can put this back now.
		And the response, you see, Steve, it is a law of the universe.
		For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
		And no, I don't mean picking up arms, but what I mean is justice.
		I mean, do justice, must be done, and will be done.
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼		We have been talking about left-wing killers.
unidentified		We have been talking about these political assassins for years.
		And no, but Chris Ray and all these people, and you want to talk about the trans shooter shooting up a bunch of kids down at a Catholic school, it's done.
		It's absolutely done.
		There's no more games.
		That was the question that Charlie Kirk perked the microphone up.
		They're right in the middle of the, I think they were questioning the numbers of this transgender shooters.
		And Charlie Kirk was engaged in the debate on that.
		Okay, we're taking a short commercial break.
		Jack Basopic is supposed to need riding shotgun.
		John Salmon's going to follow.
		We'll have probably later tonight or tomorrow morning some notifications of what we're going to be doing over the next couple of days.
		Obviously, Charlie Kirk is top of mind, top of mind for the country, top of mind for the movement.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		President Trump has just ordered the flags to have staff.
unidentified		I don't know if I think we may have some footage on that.
		Charlie Kirk, Charlie Kirk, a great man, a great man who would never sit there and go, I'm a great man.
		Charlie Kirk was all about getting it done.
		That's what always impressed me about this guy.
		Everything he accomplished, everybody's trying to get to him.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Everybody's trying to praise him and hold him up.
unidentified		Charlie Kirk was just, at the end of the day, just a grinder.
		Got it done, right?
		And what he got done was absolutely magnificent.
		He is one of the key reasons we've been able to save this country to date.
		If it was not for Charlie Kirk and the great team that he built at Turning Point USA, we would not be where we are today.
		Short commercial break.
		Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
		Besides being a very good friend, Jack, you were almost Charlie's partner in the podcast.
		You follow him here in Real America's Voice.
		You would sync your schedules.
		You guys travel around the country.
		You were live, in the irony of this, you were live on the show this afternoon when we got the announcement that Charlie had been shot.
		What went through your mind?
		You know, look, it's being in the military, being intelligence, having served at Guantanamo, it's just something where you take the emotions, and I always say you just kind of put your emotions on the shelf and you just focus on what happened.
		All right, how bad?
		Same as when I got the news about Trump.
		It's how bad?
		You know, and then who do we have, book?
		Get him off.
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼		You know, get him off.
unidentified		I just get me off air, get me on the phone, get me information.
		What happened?
		What's the latest?
		What's the situation?
		And then as it came out more and more and more, it's you just have to think, you have to think, all right, has anyone informed Erica?
		You know, is she given the green light to put this information out, et cetera, et cetera?
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼		Because this is obviously the most sensitive thing that you could talk about in a situation like this.
unidentified		But then you're just inundated.
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼		My phone, it just wouldn't, I'm sure yours too.
unidentified		It just won't stop ringing.
		And I'm barely responding to anyone outside of just the family.
		And Tanya, of course, calling and she's close with Erica.
		So she's powering through.
		And, you know, you have to think.
		And it's weirdly enough, part of me is just thinking, you know, hey, we have the show Thursday.
		What, you know, I'm trying to think of my schedule Thursday.
		Like, oh, yeah, what time is Charlie free?
		What time are we going to tape the show?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		And this is your special podcast.
unidentified		We do the thought crime show.
unidentified		Yeah.
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼		And it, and it, and it just sync the schedules like we're doing.
unidentified		Because you've been doing it, doing it for, you know, a couple of years now, and, and, and it just hasn't kicked, hasn't set in yet that, yeah, we, we're not going to do that show or any more shows.
		Yeah, that won't kick in for you.
		Also, the coverage he would do, the amazing coverage of all the elections, the Carrie Lake situation out in Arizona, election night, the stolen election, so many being with them on election night.
		And this guy, I'm telling you, for someone that had risen so fast, a lot of times it goes to people's heads, right?
		And they become too precious.
		They can't do it.
		Charlie Kirk, today he was assassinated doing what he's been doing for years and years and years.
		Other people could do that, but Charlie Kirk was doing it at Utah Valley University in front of what looks like three to 5,000 kids in the high noon and the lunch break and sitting right there.
		And what would you say, Jack?
		If you disagree with me, come to the front.
		Come to the front.
		Look, Charlie, he wanted that back and forth, but not out of anger, not out of a place of he wanted to humiliate them or embarrass them or something like that, because he wanted to actually try to communicate with them.
		And that's what he would do is he would find a way, find out something personal about that person.
		And I've watched his technique for years, and he would try to find a way to come out outside of politics, get to the core of what made that person tick, and then start to have a conversation there outside of the combattiveness.
		Taj Gil, you join us.
		You did, what, 16 tours.
		You've had a lot of very close friends killed in combat.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Today, we had a political assassination.
unidentified		Charlie Kirk, 31 years old, one of the great leaders in the United States of America and one of the leaders of his generation, cut down in cold blood by an assassin's bullet.
		Your thoughts, sir?
		Yeah, first, I just want to say my condolences to Charlie Kirk's family and to America.
tej gill ▲ ● ▼		This is a huge tragedy.
unidentified		It's crazy to think that these things are happening regularly now.
		Look, they tried to kill Trump twice last summer.
		There's murders on the subways.
		It's crazy what's going on in America.
		This left-wing ideology is becoming more and more radicalized as the years and the months go by.
tej gill ▲ ● ▼		You shouldn't have to go to a like have armed security everywhere you go.
unidentified		You shouldn't have to look over your shoulder everywhere you go.
		This is absolutely sickening that somebody killed Charlie Kirk at a college.
		It's absolutely sickening, Steve.
		It's horrible.
		It's terrible.
		And the irony of this is this left-wing ideology is born out of from the college professors.
tej gill ▲ ● ▼		That's who's radicalizing our children.
unidentified		The young men and young women, when they go to college, they get radicalized by these college professors.
		And it's getting to the point where it's almost as dangerous as radical Islam.
		It's the whole propaganda all the way through, and their ideas don't work.
		And so when their ideas don't work, they strike out like children.
		They're getting more and more radical.
		Because they're more and more.
		Because they've lost power.
		They've lost control of the narrative.
		They've lost soft power.
		They've lost political power.
		This is all they have left.
jack posobiec ▲ ● ▼		So that is why they are turning to the Mangione tactics.
unidentified		That's why they're turning violent because it's all they have left.
		And who was it that said it?
		The most radical communist of them all, Chairman Mao.
		Political power grows through the barrel of a gun.
		Yes.
		And they're killing our children, Steve.
		These transvestite shooters are going into these, you know, this Catholic school last month and whatever school, but it's absolutely sickening.
		They're attacking our children through their transvestites.
		You know, they're killing political figures that they don't agree with.
		They're desperate to hang on to power any way possible, even if it means killing people in the United States of America, the land of the free, the home of the brave, the free speech country.
		They want to silence conservatives.
		They want to silence white people.
		It's absolutely sickening what is going on.
tej gill ▲ ● ▼		And this should not happen in America.
unidentified		This is the safe haven of the world.
		We are the leader of the free world.
		We're the leader of Christianity, and people are being murdered every day.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It's horrible.
unidentified		Taj, we got to bounce.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much.
unidentified		Jack Basobic, closing thoughts on one of the great ones, Charlie Kirk, assassinated today on the 10th of September in the year of our Lord 2025 at just after high noon mountain time in right outside Salt Lake City, Utah.
		Look, just like when you went away, Steve, even though that was a brief time, what you said, I'm going to say it again.
		It's next man up.
		Turning point USA will never die.
		The movement that Charlie started will never die.
		And Charlie Kirk will be forever remembered now and for all times.
		Jack Bosobic and I got to shove off.
		We're going to turn it over to John Solomon.
		John Solomon's going to take it from here in Real America's Voice, the home of the Charlie Kirk show.
		We won't be tossing it to Charlie Kirk tomorrow.
		People got to embrace that.
		Steve, you know what Charlie would say to us?
		He's looking down.
		He'd say, hey, guys, get to work.
		Yeah, figure it out.
		Figure it out.
		Figure it out.
		You have to embrace that.
		The future is not guaranteed to anyone.
		Remember that.
		Remember that in the fight we have.
		And I will tell the left and those people cheering this on and that crowd over MSNBC, Matthew Dowd, and that crowd, we have not yet begun to fight.

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