Aug. 5, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| Here's how I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| MAGA Media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| All right, back in the war room. | ||
| Dave Bratt sitting in with great Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
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| So we're back with Chaplain Rich Stoglin. | ||
| He's going to give us a brief history in a minute or two on how the Republican Party came to be. | ||
| And he assures us it's not the way you might have anticipated. | ||
| So Chaplain, lead us away. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| The Republican Party of Texas was created in 1867, 4 through 6th July in Houston, Texas by 150 colored men and 20 white men because they believed in the justice and the echoes of Frederick Douglass. | ||
| If you look at our party, for example, the person who was a senator who helped write and his statue is on Texas A ⁇ M University, that's a colored man. | ||
| He was a Texas senator. | ||
| The first sheriff in the United States elected sheriff of the United States of America, Walter Moses Burton, who also became a senator and helped in education. | ||
| The A ⁇ M system is because of a black Republican who signed it into law. | ||
| So when you talk about the Republican concentration and contributions, 13, 14th, 15th, and 19th Amendments were Republicans. | ||
| People talk about LBJ and he signed the 1965 Voting Rights Act. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Pull up the records and find out who voted for it. | ||
| Republicans. | ||
| So when you start looking at this and the Freedmen Bureau, which was the predecessor of the HBCU, historical black college universities, those were because of Republicans. | ||
| So a party. | ||
| So when you start looking at this, the first civil rights law that was passed into law and signed into law, Ulysses S. Grant, a Republican. | ||
| The next time that happened was 1957, the year I was born, by Dwight David Eisenhower. | ||
| When you look at who was the Brown versus Topeka Board of Education, Earl Warren, former governor, Republican of California, who was the chief justice of the U.S. Supreme Court. | ||
| So when you start looking at the history of the Republican Party from the great state of Texas and nationally, the Republican Party, contrary to belief, is not some party who voted suppressed. | ||
| That was the Democratic Party. | ||
| The military arm of the Democratic Party, the Ku Klux Klan, the Black Codes, the Jim Crow laws. | ||
| Those were governors, sheriffs, chiefs of police, mayors. | ||
| The civil rights movement were fighting the Democratic Party. | ||
| And we need to understand the histronics of this. | ||
| This is not made up. | ||
| This is history. | ||
| That's a fact. | ||
| And I had to even say that to a state house hearing this past Friday in the great capital of the great state of Texas in Austin, Texas. | ||
| And here you have State Representative Milner asking a U.S. Congressman, did she read the opinion of the Pettigrew decision? | ||
| She said, no, but I have an opinion. | ||
| And his response was, so let me get this straight. | ||
| You didn't read the opinion. | ||
| You don't know what the opinion says, but you have an opinion. | ||
| This is indicative of the kind of stuff that a lot of these Democrat Party members are doing. | ||
| You don't read the agreements. | ||
| You don't know what they mean. | ||
| And here you are having these opinions that go nowhere. | ||
| And I'm a black American. | ||
| Part of my life was in the projects. | ||
| And so I was raised by a mother, a divorced mother, single-parent mother. | ||
| And I was born in a segregated hospital, Dickey Clinic, in Taylor, Texas in 1957. | ||
| And I've gone all over the world. | ||
| I have a doctorate. | ||
| I've graduated from the Naval War College, the oldest war college in the world. | ||
| And poor me, if I depended on the Democratic Party, I can't read. | ||
| I better get my four degrees back in my diploma from the Naval War College. | ||
| I better give my home. | ||
| By the way, I have books. | ||
| These are not just, this is not some IAI deal. | ||
| These are real books that I do read. | ||
| And so depending on them, I'm poor. | ||
| I'm ignorant. | ||
| I'm incapable of making a decision. | ||
| I don't know what to do. | ||
| For me. | ||
| And I'm a black American. | ||
| And by the way, I spent 330 days boots on the ground in Afghanistan. | ||
| I was a command chaplain of 39 nations of the world, number two on the enemy snipers list. | ||
| I had a full-time security team. | ||
| My gear weighed 80 pounds. | ||
| My security team, 140. | ||
| I wasn't a black command chaplain. | ||
| I was the command chaplain of a NATO mission and combined security. | ||
| Afghanistan. | ||
| So I don't know where all this is coming from. | ||
| And I'm not yet. | ||
| I know where it's coming from. | ||
| Hey, hey, Chaplain, let me ask you this one. | ||
| All those degrees, the most impressive thing, I went to seminary about 40 years ago or something back when I was younger. | ||
| And I like that name, Chaplain and Frank. | ||
| We got to go, but I want for 30 seconds to a minute. | ||
| Since my seminary days, what makes the United States unique and the history unique in my mind is the idea and the truth that every person in the world is made in the image of God. | ||
| And the Republican Party will still support that premise, not enough, not in public. | ||
| And the Democrats do not at all cite that. | ||
| The Marxist-Leninists over in China, of course, reject it. | ||
| Russians reject it. | ||
| And the Democratic Party, unfortunately, does not invoke God much at all. | ||
| And so your comments on the importance of being made in the image of God in closing. | ||
| Thank you, Chaplain. | ||
| And I want to tell you something. | ||
| This guy right here, this is one of the reasons. | ||
| His name is Major Jim Capers. | ||
| He was wounded 19 times. | ||
| I'm hoping that the president will award him the Medal of Honor. | ||
| He's been waiting since 1967. | ||
| He was wounded 19 times. | ||
| That's documented. | ||
| I hope it happens. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| One of the reasons I am proud to be an American and proud to be a Republican. | ||
| That's who we are, man. | ||
| That's what we do. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| Preach it. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Love you. | ||
| Thanks for being on, Chaplain. | ||
| We're going to pivot to another great Texan, Representative Harrison. | ||
| He's waiting, I think. | ||
| He's been on over the last few days. | ||
| He said a couple things yesterday. | ||
| I think it was that surprisingly, Governor Abbott had the power and wherewithal to bring a lot of this to closure and did not and left things open-ended that leaves us where we are today. | ||
| And so, Representative Dave Bratt here, great to have you on. | ||
| Can you give us a recap of that statement you made yesterday? | ||
| Because I think that is so important to understand. | ||
| Yeah, I've been on national news almost non-stop for the last 24, 36 hours. | ||
| And then trying to get people to understand the real story here, the true scandal, because the national media is missing it. | ||
| Everyone wants to focus on the Democrats and the theatrics that they're up to and how they're hiding behind Governor Prisker, you know, up in Illinois and all that. | ||
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Yeah, that's okay. | |
| That's interesting. | ||
| It's news. | ||
| But the real story isn't that the Democrats fled Texas to thwart our redistricting efforts. | ||
| The real story, and it is a scandal, is that Texas Republican leadership let them do it. | ||
| And let me explain what I mean. | ||
| People are covering this quorum break as if it's only one or two days old. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| This quorum break goes on five, it started five days ago, and I'll tell you what I mean by that. | ||
| The Democrats, my Democrat colleagues in the Texas House, were here last Wednesday. | ||
| Well, last Wednesday, we were on the floor. | ||
| We were gaveled in. | ||
| We had the redistricting maps. | ||
| They were filed. | ||
| They were in the system. | ||
| We had the Democrats. | ||
| We had a quorum. | ||
| And instead of using all of the tools available to the corrupt rhino leadership of the Texas House to maintain the quorum and force the Democrats to stay, what did our speaker do? | ||
| He adjourned the body after only seven minutes over my objection. | ||
| He ignored my objection. | ||
| After seven minutes, he adjourned last Wednesday to let the Democrats do what? | ||
| Go down to the other side of the Capitol, and I'm not making this up, attend their meeting with Hakeem Jeffries, the leader of the Democrat in Congress, who flew down from Washington, D.C. last Wednesday to strategize with these Democrats, plot and plan their quorum break. | ||
| And so absolutely, the real story is that this is a quorum break done by Democrats, but unfortunately, with the acquiescence, the complicity, and the support and assistance of the elected Republican leadership in the state of Texas. | ||
| And if Texas, if the great state of Texas, a state I love and I'm proud to serve in, if the state of Texas had true, bold, fearless, conservative leadership committed to delivering for the people who sent us here, this quorum break never would have happened. | ||
| Yeah, Brian, thank you. | ||
| And I misspoke. | ||
| The speaker did that, not the governor. | ||
| What moves are you left with right now? | ||
| Where do we stand? | ||
| Well, let me comment. | ||
| I mean, the governor's the head of the executive branch in the state of Texas. | ||
| Once the House, if we had done a call of the House, the governor could have done what he did yesterday, which is order DPS to support the House Sergeant at Arms and arrest every single one of these Democrats before they left, before they crossed the border into other states. | ||
| So it's unfortunately, it's not just the speaker. | ||
| It's the full elected leadership of the Texas government that had the authority to stop this. | ||
| And I'm sick and tired of what we're seeing right now. | ||
| We're seeing so much bad kabuki theater, scripted song and dance and theatrics from the elected leadership in Texas. | ||
| Now, there's been a lot of, for the last 24 hours, a lot of very strongly worded tweets. | ||
| We've had some very strongly worded press statements. | ||
| We've even had some strongly worded arrest warrants. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| You know, arrest warrants are great. | ||
| You know what's better? | ||
| Arrests. | ||
| I want actions. | ||
| People want results. | ||
| Get the Democrats, bring them back. | ||
| Let's vote the maps. | ||
| And quite frankly, actually, let's up the ante. | ||
| We should start playing hardball. | ||
| I'm sick of the way feckless Republicans fight the Democrats. | ||
| The Democrats fight for real. | ||
| The Republicans play fight. | ||
| We should up the ante. | ||
| For every week the Democrats are gone, we should redraw the maps and add one more Republican congressional seat to these maps. | ||
| It's time to play fight fire with fire here. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Yep, all political views are my own on this show. | ||
| And so, Brian, you're lighting a fire and it's a good one and it needs to happen. | ||
| How does this happen? | ||
| When I was in Congress, the leadership back when I was there, they ran what I call the giant XL spreadsheet in the sky, right? | ||
| The entire budget, line by line, was linked to donors. | ||
| And if you tried to save a teaspoon of that money, it would have to come from somebody. | ||
| So I'm guessing that this is linked to money. | ||
| This uniparty thing is led by major donors. | ||
| Enlighten us all so we can study and make some progress down here. | ||
| Well, best I can tell, and this is going to upset people, and it should. | ||
| Best I can tell both parties, not just the Democrats. | ||
| Both parties are doing everything they can to fundraise off of this insanity. | ||
| I mean, that's what it looks like to me. | ||
| And meanwhile, who's left out there in the cold? | ||
| The hardworking men and women of Texas, the voters who sent us here, the people we're supposed to be serving. | ||
| And this isn't just the first example of the Texas government being off the rails. | ||
| I mean, let me be really clear about this. | ||
| If the Texas Republican government wanted to do redistricting, really believed that we should do it, we gaveled in it in January. | ||
| This could have been done by now, and it would have been done by now if the Texas Republican leadership wanted it to. | ||
| But what did we spend the entire regular session doing? | ||
| Was it passing bold conservative bills? | ||
| Was it redistricting? | ||
| No, it was not. | ||
| We passed, in the regular session, we decided to continue taxing Texans out of their homes to fund DEI transgender ideology in our public universities and to give billions of tax dollars to liberal Hollywood. | ||
| The Texas government is off the rails. | ||
| Democrats run the show down here in Austin. | ||
| Yeah, well, thanks to Stephen Bannon and the war room posse, the spotlight is on there. | ||
| When I was in Congress, I had no recourse, right? | ||
| My local regional papers, the national press was a disaster. | ||
| It looks like the Texans have been duped, but now there's a chance to educate the Texan people what's going on. | ||
| Where do people go to learn that, Brian? | ||
| How to follow you and social media. | ||
| Thank you to the posse. | ||
| Every conservative victory, as few as they are, come from grassroots patriots like the posse. | ||
| You've had effect here. | ||
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| I update every day many times because, like I say down here, transparency is like kryptonite in the swamp. | ||
| And the media is not telling you the real story, but the posse in the war room is. | ||
| And it's great to be with you, Dave. | ||
| And I appreciate what Steve's been doing for us the last few weeks, too. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Well said, Brian, keep representing the people. | ||
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| All right, back in the war room, Dave Bratt, sitting in with the great Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
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| We got the great Joe Allen with us right now. | ||
| I've had Joe at Liberty University. | ||
| He's been leading debates on artificial intelligence for the young people, getting them all worked up. | ||
| Joe, what do you got for us today? | ||
| I want to get into a little bit of a theological discussion with you because I love what you do on that. | ||
| But what are you bringing home today? | ||
| Well, Dave, speaking of theology, we are entering into an era of the digital undead. | ||
| There is a practice among many transhumanists to record every aspect of one's life so that in the future, when the AI has become sophisticated enough, you would be able to, in essence, recreate the person to resurrect them. | ||
| If Denver wants to roll the cold open, we'll see where this process stands right now. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Joaquin Oliver died in the Parkland school shooting in Florida back in 2018, but his parents, Manuel and Patricia, have created an AI version of their son to deliver a powerful message on gun violence. | ||
| I see dead people. | ||
| Joaquin, it's Jim Acosta. | ||
| I was wondering if you could tell me what happened to you. | ||
| I appreciate your curiosity. | ||
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I was taken from this world too soon due to gun violence while at school. | |
| It's important to talk about these issues so we can create a safer future for everyone. | ||
| What would you like to know more about? | ||
| Joaquin, I would like to know what your solution would be for gun violence. | ||
| Great question. | ||
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I believe in a mix of stronger gun control laws, mental health support, and community engagement. | |
| We need to create safe spaces for conversations and connections, making sure everyone feels seen and heard. | ||
| Sharon Osborne has called out Rod Stewart's AI tribute to Ozzy Osborne by calling it disrespectful. | ||
| Instead of keeping it simple, Rod has recently started adding a full-on AI video to his performance of Forever Young. | ||
| When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk here. | ||
| Maybe good love even with your love. | ||
| Everyone can go and make such a happy smile to win your father from home. | ||
| May you grow and be proud of me, everybody. | ||
| Woo! | ||
| Wow, Joe, if you wouldn't have been with us a few seconds before talking, I would have bought that hook, line, and sinker, all of it. | ||
| Except it looked like it was a little bit of mislipsyncing there going on or something. | ||
| But what did we just see and why does this matter to the war room and to America? | ||
| Well, again, what you're seeing is the kind of early phase of the digital undead. | ||
| The first use of that technology to bring back Joaquin Oliver from the 2018 Parkland shooting in Florida. | ||
| The first attempt was in 2020. | ||
| They actually kind of resurrected using AI a number of the victims and made a big political sensation out of it. | ||
| This practice, though, you can see in the concert there with Rod Stewart aptly using the song Forever Young to showcase the AI regeneration of Ozzy Osborne and Bob Marley and Michael Jackson, Freddie Mercury and all that. | ||
| That's been going on for some time too. | ||
| There's been concerts with kind of really badly produced holograms of Michael Jackson and Tupac Shakur. | ||
| When I was a rigger and I toured with Queen plus Adam Lambert, Brian May came out and played a song with a video of Freddie Mercury behind him. | ||
| So that was an early taste of this sort of thing. | ||
| Why it's important, Dave, aside from the grotesque display that it provides for the public, is that the technology is at a place right now where it is beginning to fulfill many of the ideas that transhumanists and other futurists had dreamt up in the past decades. | ||
| You have a group, for instance, called Terrorism. | ||
| Terrorism was founded by Martin Rothblatt. | ||
| Martin Rothblatt is famous because of the connection between transgenderism and transhumanism. | ||
| But Rothblatt's organization, Terrorism, which is openly stated it's a religious organization. | ||
| I believe they're tax exempt, if I'm not mistaken. | ||
| The idea is mind cloning. | ||
| So one of the practices that they undergo is to feed as much of their personalities as possible into a system of data. | ||
| And then the hope is you can reconstruct it. | ||
| Well, with the advent of Chat GPT and other large language models, plus the image and video generation AIs, you can see it's very primitive, but it's far greater than anything that existed, say, 10 years ago. | ||
| And if it does continue to advance, and if it does continue to be normalized, I think it will really put the question of whether or not this technology is inevitable, whether or not this technology will inevitably be embraced. | ||
| It'll put that question to the test because this is a sacred line I think most people are not going to cross. | ||
| I hope most people are not going to cross. | ||
| Nobody wants to go to Thanksgiving dinner and have dead Aunt Franny sitting at the table and still griping about the same thing that she was griping about 20 years ago when she was still alive. | ||
| Yeah, it's just stunning, Joe. | ||
| I think you're right. | ||
| There's a moral line there. | ||
| Is there any research? | ||
| You know, I just use gross statistical analogies sometimes, but I heard the other day there's 25% of our country now has serious mental health issues, right? | ||
| And so if you look, and just by chance, you know, that the proportion of the folks in the religious communities has been fading down to about that number too. | ||
| So it's kind of a correlation between losing a grounded worldview and mental health issues. | ||
| And then we've all just been through torture with COVID, right? | ||
| And it took years, but at least some of the scientific evidence started coming in about the abuses of science and that. | ||
| Is there anything coming through yet on the abuse of just the preliminary stages of this AI, just on the scientific level, before we get into the moral level? | ||
| I'm not aware of the statistics on how many people, for instance, use chatbots as therapists or confidants. | ||
| They may exist, but most of what we see is anecdotal. | ||
| A lot of people I know use these things for that purpose. | ||
| A lot of people I know know people who use chatbots for that purpose, to confide their deepest secrets, to get advice on some of the most critical issues in their lives. | ||
| And that connection, that emotional connection, that sense of trust and dependency, the more people have it, the more control these tech companies will have over their way of thinking. | ||
| It's a click above Google, to say the least. | ||
| We're talking about a semi-natural conversation. | ||
| And if the expectation for a real natural conversation, a deep communication between one human and another, if that expectation is degraded, then you don't really even need that sophisticated of a technology to begin to replace it. | ||
| And in COVID, from 2020 forward, what we saw was mass isolation, mass distrust, mass screen dependency, everything from work from home to homeschooling and e-learning. | ||
| The COVID really did, as Klaus Schwab said in his great reset, provided a narrow window of opportunity to push digital platforms and digital infrastructure onto the population that would have never been accepted before. | ||
| Fortunately, many people, hopefully most people are suspicious of this and don't accept it, will not accept it. | ||
| But that's the big question. | ||
| How many people will? | ||
| Because once you have a critical mass, as we saw in 2020 moving forward, once you have a critical mass of people who are on board with some zeitgeist or another, then even if you don't partake in it, even if you don't support it, it's going to smash through your living room wall like the Kool-Aid man and demand that you drink the Kool-Aid too. | ||
| Yeah, no, I agree with you. | ||
| And I just believe as a Christian that it violates, you know, I could go over about 10,000 postulates of God's natural law and common grace and whatever. | ||
| And I just think that it's got to result eventually in some empirical evidence showing mental health catastrophes because of these false relationships, right? | ||
| There is something real in our psyche and our souls and even in our bodies that links us to God and to the creation. | ||
| And so back with Joe in a second, more on the theology and artificial intelligence. | ||
| So stay tuned. | ||
| Short break coming up. | ||
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| All right, Dave Bratt, back in the war room with a great Joe Allen on artificial intelligence, just discussing kind of the creation, the resurrection of the soul of technology, keeping the lives of people with us. | ||
| I just cannot see how this does not have repercussions. | ||
| Joe, let me just tee you up with a few of my views out of the Christian tradition where AI just violates basic Christian propositions. | ||
| If you just look across the Catholic catechism, the Baltimore Catechism, the Protestant Catechism, Heidelberg Catechism, Jewish Scripture, why are we on earth to glorify God? | ||
| If you ask AI, do you glorify God? | ||
| It says no. | ||
| If you ask it, what kind of ethical system do you follow? | ||
| It says, let me give you a history of ethical systems. | ||
| And I'll say, well, you're kind of making value judgments. | ||
| And like one of them I've been chatting with a little bit to test it. | ||
| It'll say, well, I follow the harm principle, which is the utilitarians, Bentham and Mill. | ||
| And I'm like, okay, that's better than nothing. | ||
| But then I say to the machine, I say, well, that's subjective, right? | ||
| Harm to you is not harm to Hitler is different than harm to Mother Teresa, right? | ||
| So that's subjective. | ||
| And it'll say, oh, very acute awareness, da, da, da, da, da, right? | ||
| Let me give you a history of that, of the harm principle. | ||
| And so you can never pin it down on any moral questions, right? | ||
| And then digging a bit deeper into theology. | ||
| I just got done with a chaplain. | ||
| We were just talking about, you know, one of the key postulates is we're made in the image of God. | ||
| And clearly, artificial intelligence is not. | ||
| And if you ask it anything about that, it's blank as well. | ||
| And then if you go to the central commands in the Christian tradition and the Jewish tradition and the Islamic tradition, love God and love your neighbor as yourself. | ||
| AI can't love. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then when you go down to the next level and you look at the creators of this stuff, Altman, Sam Altman, and Zuckerberg, et cetera, when they're talking, they make me scared and nervous. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so I just don't see how this goes well. | ||
| And so at a minimum, you know, they were trying to get out of legislative accountability in the last budget. | ||
| And it was hidden by leadership, I guess. | ||
| And at a minimum, I want to plug. | ||
| I want to pull the plug. | ||
| And I would like, you know, competition. | ||
| One of the nice things about having a few competitive firms there is one of the firms should be able to pull the plug on the other if they find something that crosses a red line. | ||
| And so that's just A quick set of observations. | ||
| That's where my brain goes. | ||
| And the Liberty University kids, that's where their mind's going to go is that this thing violates way too much of the basics. | ||
| And there's got to be some sort of repercussions about that. | ||
| And then the second point is, how do we regulate this thing? | ||
| And so, Joe, just tee us up and give us what you got because I know you're steeped in all of this. | ||
| The big question in America right now, and the Trump action plan is a very bad sign as to where it's going to go, in my opinion. | ||
| But the question is, how should one regulate or how should one govern artificial intelligence, whether from the municipal or state or national level or through international cooperation? | ||
| It's a free-for-all. | ||
| It could go any direction. | ||
| You can see where it's going in California, which I think is fairly reasonable, but who knows where. | ||
| You can see where it's going in Texas. | ||
| You can see where it's going in the EU. | ||
| Right now, the U.S. federal government policy is basically to blow open the doors and unleash whatever comes out the other end, whether it's GPT-5 or Grok or whatever. | ||
| You know, to the question of the image of God, the way I think about this oftentimes, you think of Augustine's statement that Satan is the ape of God. | ||
| Satan is the imitator of God. | ||
| Well, artificial intelligence is the ape of the image of God. | ||
| Artificial intelligence is a reflection of human writing, human visual art production, human filmmaking, all these sorts of things, even just human thinking, right? | ||
| It mimics it in a kind of deformed fashion. | ||
| But it is ultimately kind of a mockery in the same way that you get really irritated when you come up with a great line and someone steals it and uses it. | ||
| Well, this is basically a machine that's created to do exactly that. | ||
| And so everything that you pour into the digital space is basically fodder for the ape of the image of God. | ||
| And, you know, I'm not sure what models you were talking to. | ||
| I would imagine it was probably GPT or maybe Claude or maybe Grok, those responses that you just listed, very, very common, right? | ||
| Trying to stay morally neutral, trying not to be offensive. | ||
| There are a lot of people developing right now AI bots that will evangelize, that will tell you exactly from whatever tradition it's kind of either programmed to or guided to reflect. | ||
| You will have, I think, a lot of very important religious leaders who will not say do not use AI. | ||
| They will say you must embrace it. | ||
| You must, in essence, catechize the bots, and you must use artificial intelligence for evangelical purposes. | ||
| And this is going to raise really big questions because if you do not evangelize as has been done for 2,000 years with a human representative, a human model, flawed challenge, a human with a biography, a story. | ||
| If you don't have that as the vehicle for the gospel, then this robot, right, it's just simply a transmission of information. | ||
| You're basically programming people with the gospel rather than truly spreading it. | ||
| These are going to be huge challenges going forward, Dave. | ||
| And I am glad that you're wrestling with it. | ||
| Very few people have that courage. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| Well, thanks to you. | ||
| And the point you just brought up there, right, you know, the preaching in the Protestant tradition, the word preached, right, from the, they're supposed to be preaching out of the good book, right? | ||
| So that would be helpful. | ||
| But, you know, AI can certainly fake that and be the ape of God there, too. | ||
| But that will cross the line, right? | ||
| The word preached from the preacher out of the pulpit is the word of God in our tradition. | ||
| I think probably most of the other traditions. | ||
| Just in closing, Joe, just one other, you know, every philosopher in the Western tradition, ancient philosophers, you know, Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, modern, all the way up, Hobbes, Kant, Rousseau. | ||
| Well, Rousseau is the exception. | ||
| All of them said human nature is bad, negative, right? | ||
| Very fallen. | ||
| The reformed, especially theological. | ||
| So if you aggregate human nature into artificial intelligence, every philosopher would conclude the aggregation is bad. | ||
| And that's why I went into this idea of a constitutional republic where minority rights and minority factions are protected because this thing scares the daylights out of me. | ||
| And so any kind of when you aggregate all human knowledge into one mass, my conclusion is it would represent human nature, which is quite fallen in the Western tradition. | ||
| One minute and close us out on that one, Joe. | ||
| Yeah, Dave, that's a great observation. | ||
| And it's true that, say, an AI is telling people to commit suicide. | ||
| Say an AI is telling people to act in malevolent ways towards other people. | ||
| That is a reflection of its training data, right? | ||
| Now, a sophisticated AI literally selected that for whatever reason, statistical reasons, one assumes. | ||
| But it's not as if it was programmed to do that. | ||
| People really got to get beyond that. | ||
| But it does reflect what was put into it, right? | ||
| Human nature, human behavior. | ||
| The hope of the kind of transhumanist vision or the post-humanist vision is this, that once you have poured this flawed human nature into the machine, once the machine has come to, in essence, understand or grasp the mind of humanity, then either A, human beings with higher moral callings, right? | ||
| The Sam Altmans of the world, perhaps, will then pull the negative aspects of human nature from the machine. | ||
| You see that with the guardrails against racism, sexism, homophobia, all that. | ||
| Now, the more unsettling idea is that perhaps the machine itself will, once sufficiently advanced, artificial general intelligence or superintelligence, that it will be better equipped to figure out what is worth preserving in this digitized humanity and what should be removed. | ||
| Yeah, it's going to be a very, very weird future. | ||
| It's going to be full of all sorts of great arguments, just like the ones you're making. | ||
| And I think that people are going to have to wrestle with this really hard. | ||
| Do you want a digital undead version of your lost loved one to speak to? | ||
| Or are you prepared to simply do as all humans have done for countless millennia? | ||
| Joe, how do people get you? | ||
| You bet. | ||
| How do people get you, Joe? | ||
| You can find my work at J-O-E-B-O-T XYZ social media, my website, jobot.xyz, and I've got a great section on the digital undead in my book from two years ago, Dark Aeon Transhumanism and the War Against Humanity. | ||
| Thank you very much, Dave. | ||
| Yep, great job, Joe. | ||
| Great as always. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| All right. | ||
| We're bringing in Rosemary Jenks. | ||
| Let's start with a cold open on immigration. | ||
| She's our superstar in-house. | ||
| What do we got, Denver? | ||
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We've been looking for the criminals, the people that murdered. | |
| You know, we have 11,888 people that came into our country under Biden with our great czar, a border czar. | ||
| She never called one. | ||
| You know, she never called, she was a border czar. | ||
| She never went to the border and she never made one call to the Border Patrol. | ||
| You know, other than that, she did a great job. | ||
| But they had hundreds of people that were murdered. | ||
| 11,888 murders, 50% of which murdered more than one person in our country. | ||
| We've already gotten a lot of them out. | ||
| And some of them are so dangerous, we don't want to bring them back. | ||
| We want to put them in our own prison because we don't want them coming back. | ||
| But they allowed 11,000,888 murderers, many of which murdered more than one into our population, and we're getting them out. | ||
| All right. | ||
| No better salesman on immigration than President Donald Trump. | ||
| But we've got the second leader in our country on immigration, the great Rosemary Jenks. | ||
| Rosemary, I just wanted to bring you on to remind people how significant this issue is and was, right? | ||
| It catapulted. | ||
| I won a big election on the issue. | ||
| President Trump comes in. | ||
| It's one of the significant issues, probably top two. | ||
| Why does this issue capture the American people in a negative way in such a powerful way? | ||
| And let folks know who you're with and why this issue matters still. | ||
| And we got to solve it. | ||
| We're nowhere near solving it. | ||
| Yeah, I'm with the Immigration Accountability Project. | ||
| You can find us at iaproject.org. | ||
| All our social media is linked from that homepage. | ||
| And we are very active on social media. | ||
| We have been working on this issue, the immigration issue, for I have been for 35 years. | ||
| And the reason is that immigration impacts every single aspect of our lives. | ||
| It impacts healthcare, education policy, housing availability, labor force, obviously, and national security and everything, welfare usage, how much taxpayers have to pay for these folks. | ||
| And I think we reached a breaking point under Joe Biden when he flung the doors of the border open and let in as many people as he possibly could. | ||
| Americans could not help but see the impact. | ||
| We saw it all around us. | ||
| We saw it in our overcrowded public schools. | ||
| We saw it in overcrowded emergency rooms. | ||
| We saw it in the lack of available affordable housing. | ||
| You know, we saw it everywhere. | ||
| And then we had the terrorist threats, you know, the guys who broke into Quantico and various other people who were on the terror watch list who were just let into our nation. | ||
| So there was no avoiding it. | ||
| And, you know, even before that, a lot of Americans had recognized what a damaging proposition open borders is. | ||
| But Americans are now also realizing that we have too much legal immigration, whether that's through H-1Bs coming in and taking American tech jobs, whether that's just through our normal legal immigration system that's letting in over a million people per year as lawful permanent residents. | ||
| It's too much. | ||
| And we're at the highest foreign-born population we've ever had, including at the turn of the last century during the Great Wave. | ||
| So it's time to bring this back and focus on Americans. | ||
| Right on the money. | ||
| Rosemary Jenks, I'll hold you over the break for another minute or so for closing remarks. | ||
| Stay tuned, War Room, for Rosemary Jenks. | ||
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| All right, back in the war room with Rosemary Jenks, one of the leading experts in the country on immigration. | ||
| Rosemary, I want people today to be able to reach out. | ||
| In addition, what you said, the trafficking numbers I've seen, the prostitution of young girls that are missing in this country. | ||
| Can you just close with any numbers on that? | ||
| Just think about what we're talking about, people. | ||
| In the United States of America, trafficking of young girls for prostitution let in. | ||
| Everyone turns a blind eye somehow. | ||
| What are the numbers there, Rosemary? | ||
| Then how do people reach you again? | ||
| And then we got to hustle through a bunch of other friends coming on. | ||
| Yeah, so we know that the Biden administration actually lost around 300,000 unaccompanied children who they let in and then passed through a couple, at least two government agencies and then lost track of them. | ||
| The Trump administration has prioritized finding them and they have found thousands of them, including the 14 children who were working at the pot field in California and various others who have been labor trafficked and sex trafficked. | ||
| This is a crisis of our own making. | ||
| It is our government-sponsored trafficking crisis. | ||
| Where do people go, Rosemary? | ||
| How do they get the receipts? | ||
| How do people get these receipts? | ||
| Where do they go to follow you so they can share this information with people and get this right? | ||
| Iaproject.org is our website. | ||
| We have all kinds of resources, including a page of accountability that details the votes and bills of every member of Congress on immigration. | ||
| And we have all of the executive orders that President Trump has put out. | ||
| And iaproject.org, we need everybody's support to keep doing this. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Awesome. | ||
| Thanks, Rosemary. | ||
| Go support Rosemary and Immigration Accountability Project. | ||
| We've got Anna Paula Henkel with an update on what's going on with Bolsonaro. | ||
| It's not good news, but it's better news. | ||
| But the assessment, Anna, what's going down in Brazil? | ||
| How do you characterize the regime down there? | ||
| Hi, Mr. Brad. | ||
| Thanks for having me. | ||
| I'm in Brazil, and I am completely shocked what I have been seeing in the last couple of days. | ||
| I'm an American citizen. | ||
| I am Bayes resident of Los Angeles and have been living in the United States for more than 15 years now, but had to come to Brazil to cover a lot of the political scenario that is happening here. | ||
| And it's, I'm even scared to be here, to be honest. | ||
| You know, even with my American passport, I'm scared to be here because we have journalists in exile outside of Brazil. | ||
| We have no freedom of expression here. | ||
| We have one judge dictating what is the law. | ||
| We have our constitution completely ripped apart. | ||
| And now, you know, on top of all that, we had the home, the Alejandro de Moraes issued a home arrest for former President Bolsonaro because he appeared in his son's social media last Sunday. | ||
| Last Sunday, we had major protests all over Brazil. | ||
| Thousands and thousands of people took the streets to say enough is enough. | ||
| The lawfare, the judicial dictatorship, enough is enough. | ||
| And President Bolsonaro went just to thank people on his son's cell phone to say thank you so much. | ||
| We're going to continue to fight for Brazil. | ||
| So yesterday, Morais issued that home arrest for President Bolsonaro for saying Anna, we're going to get you back again for a longer segment. | ||
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| I'm posting everything there about what's happening here in Brazil. | ||
| And thanks for opening this page for us to show how Brazil is under a judicial dictatorship now currently. | ||
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