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July 21, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4646: Obama's Coup And Treasonous Conspiracy Against Donald Trump
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steve bannon
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maria bartiromo
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jake tapper
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jonathan lemire
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mark levin
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tulsi gabbard
Maria, the implications of this are frankly nothing short of historic.
Over a hundred documents that we released on Friday really detail and provide evidence of how this treasonous conspiracy was directed by President Obama just weeks before he was due to leave office, after President Trump had already gotten elected.
This is not a Democrat or Republican issue.
This is an issue that is so serious it should concern every single American because it has to do with the integrity of our Democratic Republic.
What we saw occur here as the documents we released detailed was that we had a sitting President of the United States and his cabinet and leadership team, quite frankly, who were not happy with the fact that President Trump had won the election, that the American people had chosen Donald J. Trump to be the next President Commander in Chief of the United States.
And so they decided that they would do everything possible to try to undermine his ability to do what voters tasked President Trump to do.
So creating this piece of manufactured intelligence that claims that Russia had helped Donald Trump get elected contradicted every other assessment that had been made previously in the months leading up to the election that said exactly the opposite, that Russia neither had neither the intent nor the capability to try to quote unquote hack the United States election for the presidency of the United States.
So the effect of what President Obama and his senior national security team did was subvert the will of the American people, undermining our democratic republic and enacting what would be essentially a years-long coup against President Trump, who was duly elected by the American people.
mark levin
We have a lot to run on and you have a lot to run against, given the other party.
But I will tell you this.
We better be united.
We better be strong.
We better be focused.
We better be articulate.
We can't waste our time on Epstein and other stuff that are going on here that some people want us to focus on.
I'm about to had it with all that stuff.
We better focus on who we are, what we're doing, where we want to take the country, and what they want to do to the country.
maria bartiromo
But what happened?
How did they actually get the public to believe, and half the public believed, that actually Trump did collude?
tulsi gabbard
Well, this is the thing, Maria, when you look at the assessments that were made, not just by one element of the intelligence community, but in my role as the Director of National Intelligence, I oversee 18 different intelligence community elements.
And in the months leading up to the November 2016 election, the intelligence community agreed that there was no intelligence that reflected that Russia was trying to hack the election in favor of either candidate.
The evidence showed, the intelligence showed that, again, Russia did not have either the intent nor the capability to be able to impact the outcome of the United States election.
So it was very striking when we look back again at the documents that I declassified and released that shows there was a shift in early December, the first week of December.
Again, another document was produced by the intelligence community, a president's daily brief, that was consistent with every other assessment that was done previously leading up to the election.
Russia was not, did not, this is after the election now, did not attempt to affect the outcome of the American election.
That was never published.
Hours before it would have gone into President Obama's president's daily brief, it was pulled by a senior level intelligence official saying that they had to pull it because they had received new guidance.
The very next day, this meeting was called, a National Security Council meeting, bringing together all of the senior leaders of President Obama's cabinet, and the topic that was put forward was a sensitive matter.
The tasks that came out of that meeting was coming from President Obama directing the intelligence community, then Obama's ODNI director Clapper, to produce a document, to produce an intelligence assessment that detailed not if, but how Moscow affected the outcome of the election that had already occurred, electing Donald Trump to the presidency.
This document that they published in January of 2017 was the foundational groundwork that they continued to reference over and over and over again to enact this years-long coup against President Trump.
jonathan lemire
How to Resist the Epstein Temptation.
And in it, Ben writes this.
There's obviously great fun in watching the world's dumbest media revolution.
The social media Epstein detectives lied by, led by podcasters, turned keystone cops and devour children.
There are political incentives for Democrats to join MAGA in stoking wild theories.
And there are good non-conspiratorial questions about how Epstein linked business, social climbing, and sex.
Maybe investigative documents, perhaps including the files Trump ordered released, can answer some of those questions.
But those of us trying to stay sane ought to keep in mind the distinction between evidence and speculation, fantasy, and reality.
maria bartiromo
And I understand that there is more, perhaps, that you are going to come out with next week.
And I was told that that's why they raided Mar-a-Lago.
That they wanted to find the Trump-Russia documents that indicated there was absolutely no collusion and that there was no evidence to even start such an investigation.
But Trump didn't have it there in Mar-a-Lago.
But that's why they raided his house in 2022.
unidentified
Is that correct?
tulsi gabbard
I don't have the details on the specifics of the Mar-a-Lago raid itself.
Those are within the possession of the FBI.
But there's no question in my mind that this intelligence community assessment that President Obama ordered be published, which contained a manufactured intelligence document.
It's worse than even politicization of intelligence.
It was manufactured intelligence that sought to achieve President Obama and his team's objective, which was undermining President Trump's presidency and subverting the will of the American people.
So, yes, next week we will be releasing more detailed information about how exactly this took place and the extent to which this information was sought to be hidden from the American people, hidden from officials who would be in a position to do something about it.
And that's really the point here that I think is most important, Maria.
And you said it in your opening.
Accountability is essential for the future of our country, for the American people to have any sense of trust in the integrity of our democratic republic.
Accountability, action, prosecution, indictments for those who are responsible for trying to steal our democracy is essential for us to make sure that this never happens to our country again.
victor willis
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steve bannon
This is the final scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
Here's not got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
MAGA Media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
steve bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
victor willis
Beautiful.
steve bannon
you It's Monday, 21 July, Year of Our Lord 2025.
This is going to be, I can tell you, going to be an action-pack week.
Tulsi Gabba right there says she's going to release more information.
We're going to break down.
We got more of her interview with Maria.
We'll break it down.
Jim Rickards is going to join us.
Also, General Flynn's going to join us a little bit later.
I want to play that.
That was actually the end of that.
It was actually put up by President Trump.
I guess it's artificial intelligence, right?
President Trump last night on his Truth Social, he bombarded Truth Social and the media with a number of just explosive truth, you know, I guess these postings he puts up about Tulsi Gabbard, about the deep state, about you can tell his rising anger about what happened.
I think as he gets into more of the details.
Two things other happening.
We'll get clips.
Holman and Chrissy Noam just gave a press conference.
An officer, a customer in Border Patrol, I think, has been shot and killed.
Wounded.
He's been wounded.
It's just shot in the face, wounded, in critical condition, I guess.
And they just had a these ICE officers, customs and border patrol.
This is why they're wearing the mask.
They're completely under assault.
Also under assault, everything President Trump does, and this is why the Justice Department's under siege with almost 200 lawsuits against President Trump's Article II powers.
Now, Alina Chabab, one of President Trump's closest lawyers and confidants, has been doing a great job as the acting, or I guess the interim U.S. attorney in New Jersey, I think is threatening to be removed today at 10 a.m. by Hakeem Jeffries and a bunch of judges in New Jersey.
Mike Davis joins us.
Mike, explain to the audience what's going on because this is quite confusing situation.
She's there on an interim basis, I guess, an acting basis, been doing a great job.
How is she being removed by these kind of radical neo-Marxist judges, federal judges in New Jersey, working with Hakeem Jeffries, sir?
mike davis
Yes, U.S. attorneys are generally nominated by the president in consultation with the home state senators through the blue slips, where the home state senators have a veto over the U.S. attorney nomination because they want to be able to hand select the prosecutor who would prosecute their corruption case, the district court judge who would oversee their corruption case, and the U.S. Marshal that would escort them to prison.
But that's not going away.
That's been around for over 100 years.
That nonsense called the blue slip.
But regardless, the president, through his attorney general, can appoint a U.S. attorney for 120 days.
We saw this with Judge Janine Pirro in D.C. We saw this with Alina Haba in New Jersey.
We saw this with other U.S. attorneys around the country.
And then after that 120-day appointment, if the U.S. attorney is not nominated and confirmed by the Senate, there's a statute.
I think it's unconstitutional, but there's a statute that lets the district court judges in the district where the U.S. Attorney rules, they get a pick.
They get a vote to pick whether the U.S. attorney stays or goes.
In the past, this is generally, these judges have generally been very deferential to the attorney general and the president because this is a U.S. attorney.
It's the chief law enforcement officer of that district.
Well, we're seeing a precedent set in this Trump 47 administration where these Democrat activist judges, whether they're in New York or now New Jersey, are trying to fire these U.S. attorneys.
They're voting to fire.
In New Jersey, there are 17 district court judges.
15 of them are appointed by Barack Obama and Joe Biden.
So at 10 o'clock This morning, right now, they're meeting to decide to vote whether to get rid of Alina Haba.
And this is after House Democrat leader Hakeem Jeffries posted a post on X a couple days ago calling for these 17 New Jersey district court judges to get rid of Alina Haba.
And the reason?
Because Alina Haba indicted a House Democrat member who allegedly assaulted federal immigration officer.
So this is purely political by Hakeem Jeffries.
So I just last night filed a House ethics complaint from the Article III project against Hakeem Jeffries because he is trying to get these 17 New Jersey federal judges to violate their judicial ethics.
Canons 2, 3, and 5 of the Code of Conduct for United States judges makes it illegal for judges to make the political considerations that Hakeem Jeffries has urged them to make by firing U.S. Attorney Alina Hava because she brought an indictment against a Democrat House member for allegedly assaulting a federal ICE agent.
So we'll see what happens today.
That ethics complaint's going to go against Hakeem Jeffries.
That's in the process.
And I would say to these 17 district court judges in New Jersey, if they follow Hakeem Jefferies' recommendation and fire U.S. Attorney Alita Hama today, they will also face judicial misconduct complaints, 17 of them from the Article III project.
steve bannon
But part of this is that we haven't called in the district judges in D.C. To be deposed openly in front of the American people.
Anyway, Mike, stick around.
We got to get to the bottom of this.
Short break.
Back in a moment.
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So, Mike Davis, over the weekend, with Tulsi Gabbert, what's happening on the Epstein situation, you've had a coup.
This, quite frankly, is about who governs us.
Is when someone's elected to the office of the president with the powers of the presidency that you've done such an incredible job at Article 3, buttressing and saying in that interregnum we had for those number of years working with Project 2025 and Russ Vogt and others to say, hey, you know, he's chief executive officer of the United States.
He can impound money.
The impoundment act of Darn Nixon, the distress of Nixon is illegitimate.
He's the CEO.
He can fire people, cut money.
He's commander-in-chief.
He has almost unlimited powers as commander-in-chief.
And then he's the chief magistrate, chief law enforcement officer.
Now we're finding this is where the rubber hits the road because Kennedy was taken out in an assassination.
Nixon was really a judicial coup with the CIA and FBI, but Judge Sarika, the House, the lawyers at the House, if you read Jeff Shepard's two books, it's stunning of how the radical judiciary, and that started this whole process of hiving off the Justice Department and the FBI from the president, from his Article II power that he's chief magistrate and chief law enforcement officer.
And that's why your work's been so great.
President Trump went over there, I think, on the second and third day into the halls of the DOJ, and Weissman and those guys have never recovered from that.
Now you have a situation that we have a judicial revolution.
As we're now getting to how his first term was taken from him, right, in a coup, that they're, you know, putting the evidence out every day.
You see now what's the one thing that's worked for the Democrats is the ability, although they're losing at the highest court, they're slowing things down to delay is to deny.
And this is another example of even President Trump getting who he wants in to actually work for him.
So this is a dual-prong approach from the deep state and also this radical judiciary, which I guess is the legal and judicial arm of the deep state.
I want to start here by going back.
What is blue slip?
I thought President Trump said, hey, look, I'm not crazy about this blue slip.
I understand it's custom and tradition.
In the old days, we had compromise.
It wasn't bad.
But this stops President Trump from actually getting U.S. attorneys in blue.
And we know that the neo-Confederates run California.
They run Los Angeles.
They control Illinois and Chicago.
They control New York and New York City.
And you're not going to deport 10 to 20 million illegal alien invaders.
Hell, you just had a guy get shot in the face, right?
You're not going to do that unless you have hammers as U.S. attorneys going against these corrupt Marxist, neo-Marxist Democratic politicians, sir.
So I thought we actually, the blue slip thing was something we kind of waved off a couple of years ago.
mike davis
So when I was the chief counsel for nominations on the Senate Judiciary Committee, I was able to push very hard for then chairman and now chairman Chuck Grassley to not give blue slip vetoes for federal circuit judge nominees because they touch more than one state.
But for a U.S. attorney, U.S. Marshal, district court judges, like I say, there would be 100 senator revolts if these home state senators lost the ability to hand select the prosecutor who would prosecute their corruption trial, the judge Who would oversee the corruption trial and the U.S. Marshal, who would escort them to prison?
So, blue slips for district court, U.S. Attorney, and U.S. Marshal are not going away probably ever.
But for circuit court judges, they lost the veto power.
You still have to do consultation with the home state senators before you nominate a federal appellate judge nominee.
But that's the reason we confirmed a near-record number of judges, including federal appellate judges in President Trump's first term, is because we got rid of the blue slip veto for federal circuit judges.
steve bannon
You have to bounce understand that.
What's the action?
Article 3 is on top of this with the president.
He's outraged.
Alina's done a great job.
What is the call to action this morning?
Is there anything the posse should do to assist this?
Is this occurring right now with these 15 of these 17 judges making a decision whether they want to get rid of her or not?
Is there anything for the Warren Posse to do in coordination with Article 3?
mike davis
Well, unfortunately, you can't call these judges because, and that makes this even more weird.
You have 17 judges deciding whether the president gets to keep his U.S. attorney in New Jersey, Alina Haba, and there's nothing we can do about it.
It shows you how unconstitutional this is.
Usually, when the president picks someone, you can call the White House switchboard or the Senate confirms someone, you can call your home state senators, but you can't really call these judges.
So again, a total head scratcher.
steve bannon
Okay, but you're on it with the ethics committee.
Is that going to be anything powerful to Hakeem Jeffries since these guys don't have any ethics?
Do they care?
Or is this something technical you can jam him up that he can't use his powers as minority leader?
mike davis
It is a clear violation of the House ethics rules for a House member, particularly the top House Democrat, to strong arm 17 federal judges to fire a United States attorney because that United States attorney brought a federal indictment through a grand jury against a Democrat House member for allegedly assaulting federal immigration officers.
That is a clear-cut house ethics violation.
steve bannon
Mike, thank you so much for joining us.
I know you got a bolt.
We'll follow this one this morning, and hopefully you'll report back this afternoon.
mike davis
Thank you.
steve bannon
Alina Habab.
And by the way, President Trump's done this a lot to have these acting U.S. attorneys, and she's done a fantastic job in New Jersey, which, as you can imagine, no easy area.
This is where Scott Pressler in the persistence movement is up there right now.
They believe that New Jersey is going to be the next Pennsylvania as Pennsylvania becomes the next Ohio as far as registrations and get out the vote.
Can we play clip?
I got Jim Records up.
I'd like to play that Tulsi clip that we had.
Let's go ahead and play it for Jim.
maria bartiromo
And I understand that there is more, perhaps, that you are going to come out with next week.
And I was told that that's why they raided Mar-a-Lago, that they wanted to find the Trump-Russia documents that indicated there was absolutely no collusion and that there was no evidence to even start such an investigation.
But Trump didn't have it there in Mar-a-Lago, but that's why they raided his house in 2022.
unidentified
Is that correct?
tulsi gabbard
I don't have the details on the specifics of the Mar-a-Lago raid itself.
Those are within the possession of the FBI.
But there's no question in my mind that this intelligence community assessment that President Obama ordered be published, which contained a manufactured intelligence document, it's worse than even politicization of intelligence.
It was manufactured intelligence that sought to achieve President Obama and his team's objective, which was undermining President Trump's presidency and subverting the will of the American people.
So yes, next week we will be releasing more detailed information about how exactly this took place and the extent to which this information was sought to be hidden from the American people, hidden from officials who would be in a position to do something about it.
And that's really the point here that I think is most important, Maria, and you said it in your opening.
Accountability is essential for the future of our country, for the American people to have any sense of trust in the integrity of our democratic republic.
Accountability, action, prosecution, indictments for those who are responsible for trying to steal our democracy is essential for us to make sure that this never happens to our country again.
steve bannon
I mean, the president last night on True Social went all in, including that.
Far be it from me to say it's over the top artificial intelligence on Obama.
It's pretty powerful.
We'll play that again after the break.
Jim Rickards joins us.
Jim, we're going to talk about Ukraine.
We've got many geopolitical issues to talk to you about, but a lot of them get back to this whole situation in 15 and 16 with the intelligence apparatus.
Unbelievably, understand they didn't stop Trump from winning, so they had to come about it a different way.
You've seen Tulsi, her releases.
She said right there, she gave a heads up, the FBI's got, I think, information that will be released shortly about the Mar-a-Lago raid, the real reason for it.
What's your overall assessment in the first couple of days?
This hit on Friday in kind of a bombshell.
What's your first cut assessment?
jim rickards
My first cut assessment, by the way, I've had the privilege of meeting Tulsi, spending some time with her.
I live in New Hampshire.
She was trying to represent.
You get to meet all the candidates.
Unusual for Washington, she's a really nice person, but boy, she's smart.
And she does not shoot from the hip.
One of my favorite Tulsi clips is she's doing, she was in a live fire exercise.
She's active duty military, and she changed the clip on an MR4 in the obstacle course, so while she was rolling and so forth.
So she's completely serious.
And they've done this.
I say they, this is obviously coming from the intelligence community.
She's the head of the intelligence community.
These were not just loose accusations.
This was not just, oh, maybe we're going to take a closer look at this.
She had the, you know, I hate to use cliches, but she had the receipts.
She had intelligence community documents that were released and other descriptions, et cetera, that point directly at this conspiracy.
Now, the thing that, now, by the way, after 10 years of this, you know, special counsel, Robert Mueller, you know, inspector general, you know, Jim Jordan seems like a nice guy, but you know, 10 years of talk is enough.
We want to see some action.
My impression is that this is going to lead directly to action.
They've done a lot of things right.
So, for example, they're using, they're looking at conspiracy and RICO type charges.
That is very powerful in two different ways.
Number one, it casts a wider net.
You could be, you could have a very tangential role.
If you're part of a conspiracy, you can get dragged in and charged with some of the highest charges that will be applied to the conspiracy itself.
More importantly.
steve bannon
Hold more importantly.
I'm going to leave him on the hook, a cliffhanger.
Jim Rickards is in the war room.
Short commercial break.
Back in a moment.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Battle.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome back.
We've got a massive conspiracy as a coup to remove President Trump from office after he legitimately won in 2017, 16 and 17, and it continued on.
It continues on to this day.
You have the AudiPen situation.
You got the Epstein situation.
You've got the question, I keep asking, who runs this country, right?
Who actually runs it?
The voters?
The will of the people?
Or this apparatus we call the deep state, which is the interconnection of the intelligence services, law enforcement, national security, and the military, and finance.
Jim Rickerts, I want to just hit rewind for a second.
You know Tulsi.
She's a serious person.
Folks, this is the reason Tulsi Gabbard has been getting lit up in the press, in the Langley Bugle, right?
This is the reason that the Langley Bugle, what we call the Washington Post, right?
David Ignatius, that crowd, have been lighting her up and saying how great the CIA is and how tremendous the CIA is and what a great job they did in Israel.
This weekend, folks, the Times of Israel, okay, not exactly War Room, the Times of Israel, Axios, and Mediite all did huge stories of how the White House has had a belly full of Netanyahu that he's out of control, not just pushing for a continuation of regime change war with the Persians, but he's out of control everywhere from shelling Catholic churches to what's going on.
And instead of being focused in Gaza, just kind of random violence in Gaza all over.
And the scripture from the White House is he's a madman.
Tulsi Gabbard has been getting lit up because the CIA in conjunction with the Mossad came up with the urgency that we had to get into it with the Persians.
Jim Rickards, we know she's a serious person.
We know she can also take incoming.
She's kind of unflappable.
She can take incoming as she has over the last couple of months and then delivered a bombshell, a bombshell that President Trump got on board early, but last night he went next level of his enthusiasm for this, including having this little film put together with Obama being actually incarcerated.
I want to go back to your, you're saying they're smart in the way they're doing this, given your knowledge of the intelligence community and particularly going directly to a conspiracy into RICO, using the RICO statutes to go over this.
Can you continue on your analysis, sir?
jim rickards
Sure.
So the first point we made is conspiracy widens the net so people tangentially involved can be kind of hauled in to the core of the conspiracy and face those charges because they contributed to it.
But more importantly, it extends the statute of limitations because the immediate reaction to some of this was, yeah, maybe, but it was 2016.
That was nine years ago.
The statute's five years or seven years, depending on the offense.
That's not how it works in a conspiracy.
You start the statute of limitations from the last act.
And that would be at least the rate on Mar-a-Lago.
If I were a lawyer, I happen to be a lawyer.
If I were a lawyer to any of these potential defendants, I would say, keep off the phone and don't talk to any of the other people.
In fact, don't talk about it at all.
Every phone call that furthers the conspiracy starts the statute of limitations over again.
So you are not going to have a statute of limitations problem.
So wide net, statute of limitations, simply not a problem.
The other thing you look at is what's called Benjamin jurisdiction.
Well, Chris Ray sent the goon squads into Mar-a-Lago to go through Melania's lingerie.
Thank you.
That just handed the White House or the Department of Justice a Florida jurisdiction.
So you could bring the case in Florida.
You could bring in other states as well.
This was a pretty widespread coup.
Pick your state, but you're certainly not going to pick Washington, D.C. or New York or any other Democratic stronghold.
So statute of limitation is not a problem.
Conspiracy casts a wide net.
Florida jurisdiction is clear.
Other states, if you prefer.
So my point is they've really thought this through, anticipated all the objections or all the potential defenses, and structured it in such a way that those defenses fall down.
And the last point, I encourage the War Room Possibly, read what Tulsi Gabbard actually released.
It was kind of a one-page, tons of documents behind it.
But what she actually released, again, serious person, she used the word coup.
The word coup was in there, which is what it was.
I think you're absolutely right about that.
She also used the word treason.
I think the word was treasonous, but okay, the root word is treason.
One of the very few crimes mentioned in the Constitution, of course, you can get the death penalty for that.
So this was carefully crafted, carefully thought through.
They anticipated the defenses.
They've knocked them down before they can even be raised.
I would expect in due course, but maybe sooner than later, grand juries, indictments, trials, and some convictions.
steve bannon
Jim, given you know that community very well and you know geopolitics very well, when someone as serious as Tulsi Gabbard, DNI, who has 17 or 18 of these massive intelligence apparatuses report to her, when she uses the word coup and she uses the word treasonous conspiracy, how serious should the intelligence community and those that perpetrated these crimes take this, sir?
jim rickards
It doesn't get any More serious.
I mean, unless you're pulling a trigger somewhere, you know, coup and treason, that's as bad as a guess.
And again, that's one of the few crimes mentioned in the Constitution.
So, which means that you could be looking at very long prison sentences at a minimum.
By the way, the conspiracy went on for years.
I talked about the statute of limitations, but through the special counsel, through Mueller, through the Mar-a-Lago raid, behind the scenes, people were still planning these things.
As you said, the SWAT team, the FBI SWAT team didn't just show up in Mar-a-Lago.
So there were more conversations related to that.
And Obama, not only is Obama not off the hook, he appears to be at the center of it.
You go through the chronology that Tulsi Gabbard laid out.
It was very clear, where the intelligence community said the Russians had nothing to do with interference with the 2016 election, either kind of hacking voting machines or anything, really.
Internet, social media agents had nothing to do with it.
That's what they said in two assessments.
There's one from the CIA and one from the FBI.
And then the White House, with Obama in the room, said, no, change it.
Let's create a conspiracy.
They introduced the Steele dossier.
Christopher Steele, the MI6, he wasn't the Moscow station chief.
He ran the Russian desk in London, but the head MI6 agent on the Russian file made it up.
By the way, the history of intelligence operators making things up is as long as the history of intelligence.
So some intelligence is solid and good, but they make things up for propaganda reasons, sort of steer you in the wrong direction, et cetera.
It's what Angleton and I actually met a company, Shakespeare, originally called the Wilderness of Mirrors.
I mean, when you're in it, you get it is a wilderness of mirrors.
They lie to each other.
They make things up or hide the real intelligence, et cetera.
So they knew that that dossier was fake and they insisted on putting it in to give them the justification.
And by the way, our friend James Boesberg, the federal judge in Washington, D.C., he was the FISA judge at the time they approved these warrants.
And of course, he's another one standing in the way of Trump's immigration and other initiatives.
steve bannon
So they're all in it together.
The dots are connecting.
By the way, I'm still working through a couple of biographies of Angleton on the Kennedy coup.
This has real-world implications.
What's obvious, and the audience and Grace and Mo, I think we did it over the weekend, but I want to do it again to make sure the war room posse gets every opportunity and availability to read the documents as they come out.
Tulsi's kind of cover letter or cover post, and then all the different documents.
You should read them.
And we're going to be putting up, and I'll be putting it up on Getter, all types of analysis.
Like I said, General Flynn's going to join us.
We'll have Poso back on tomorrow.
Poso's doing virtually his entire shows every day on this.
It has real world implications.
What comes out in these emails, the hatred of Trump is, you can almost taste it.
Their hatred of Trump.
But their hatred of Russia is at the same level.
This changed the arc of history.
If this had not happened, because what they wanted to do to make sure there could never be a rapprochement, that we could do a reverse niction, they could never be a rapprochement between the Trump administration, the United States, and the Russian people that could take them out of the sphere with the Chinese Communist Party so that together we could figure out how to deal with the existential threat to the United States, which is the CCP.
We know that, and people that watch your show know that.
Talk to me about that.
We're going to talk about Ukraine.
There wouldn't be 2 million dead people, dead, you know, and that is Russian troops, Ukrainian troops, and Ukrainian civilians if this had not been allowed to happen, if we had broken this, if this had been made visible immediately.
This has real world implications.
And today, you know, the president, on, I think, the day after Labor Day, as we continue right now, secondary sanctions are going to come in against the Chinese Communist Party, full economic warfare against Russia.
And this Ukraine situation only gets worse and worse and worse.
We played in the cold open Lindsey Graham last night so offensively.
He's tying what President Trump is trying to do to Scotty Schoffler's huge victory in the Open Championship yesterday, saying, hey, Trump's giving them an ass whooping.
You've got Tom Cotton and Lindsey Graham.
These people are out of control.
But this goes back.
You see the beginning of it because they never thought Trump would win.
When Trump won, it was like this complete hatred of Trump and everything he stood for because it was against the deep state.
But as seriously as their hatred of Russia, that nothing could come in to their plan to try to take down the Russian people.
Jim Rickerts, your thoughts?
jim rickards
That's exactly right.
And this kind of points at people like Vinman, Fiona Hill, a lot of the so-called Russia experts who were witnesses at the Trump's first impeachment trial or impeachment proceeding, which was based on a phone call to Zelensky.
So we're all kind of creatures of our academic training, at least if you're at that expert level and you went through a certain period.
You know, I was in graduate school in international relations in the 70s before I went to law school.
That was the height of the Cold War.
But the people who are kind of late 40s, 50 today, they went to school in the 90s.
What was going on in the 90s?
Well, the Soviet Union collapsed, officially dissolved in December 1991.
Putin came into power around 2000, late 99, 2000.
What happened in that kind of 10-year period?
Russia was the wild west.
They handed out all these shares of all these companies to everyday Russian people.
The oligarchs set up card tables in the lobbies of apartment buildings and said, hey, I'll give you some cash for your shares.
They acquired all these shares.
Sometimes there were two or three.
There were machine gun fights in the streets of Moscow.
It was like Chicago in the 1920s.
But what was America doing?
We were telling them how to run a central bank, how to set up a stock exchange, how to do basically IPOs of all the wealth in Russia so that we could acquire it ourselves, break up Russia into separate republics.
This was the heyday of the Russia haters.
james rickards
Who ended all that?
jim rickards
It was Putin.
Putin came in.
By the way, Putin's support does not come from the oligarchs.
That's a myth.
He's at odds with the oligarchs.
He said, hey, you can have your money and your business, but keep out of politics.
Don't get my way, or you'll end up in jail.
james rickards
And they got the message.
jim rickards
But Putin's support is the military, the Orthodox Church, and everyday Russians.
Those are the three pillars of Putin's support.
His polls are off the charts, 85, 90% popularity.
He understands the soul of Russia.
One of the most interesting things I've ever heard from a Russian was he said, you know, the problem with you Americans, you think we're like you because we're white.
But Russia is a completely different civilization, different religion, different history, et cetera.
But so when Putin came along, the Vinmens and the Fiona Hills of the world hated him because he upset the uppercut.
He upset their game.
He upset their game to loot Russia, basically for the benefit of U.S. investors.
And so they hate him.
In fact, Putin could be our best friend.
Again, I'll come back to my analogy.
I hope it's not too used up, but there are only three countries in the world that matter.
China, Russia, and the United States.
Sorry, Germany, UK, you're secondary powers.
It's a three-handed poker game.
They're a three-handed poker game.
It's always two against one, and the one is the sucker.
And if you don't know who the sucker is, you're the sucker.
Nixon understood this.
That's why he opened the door to China so we could isolate the Soviet Union, really Russia.
And then, you know, over the course of 89, the Berlin Wall falls, 91, the Soviet Union dissolves.
Now we need to pivot to Russia, align with Russia, and isolate China to defeat the Communist Party.
But they can't stand that.
They, meaning, you know, basically the neocons, the Victoria Newlands, the Fiona Hills, George Kent, basically the entire foreign policy establishment.
They can't stand it.
steve bannon
So they hate Jim.
Jim, Jim, hang on one second.
We're just going to take a short commercial break.
Jim Rickert's on the other side.
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steve bannon
Remember, the engine room sends me this to remind everybody, it's this conspiracy against President Trump, this coup against President Trump, this treasonous conspiracy against President Trump is against President Trump, but it's also against the government that was voted in by the American people.
And it's by individuals, and those individuals, I understand and appreciate there is frustration with, hey, we had Durham, we had all this.
How come we haven't seen anybody purp walked yet on their side?
It's also about institutions.
It's the institutions that need to be purged.
Finally, we have to get the courage to do that, to break apart the FBI, to break apart the CIA.
Right now, Jim, what is our way out?
What is a peaceful solution?
Putin just said the other day he's prepared to talk peace.
Didn't say specifically with Zielinski.
But what is our way out of this Ukraine situation to make sure that we avoid getting sucked in and exorbitably drawn into an increasing land war on the Eurasian landmass, sir?
jim rickards
Well, that's right.
To be clear, Sergei Lavrov, the foreign minister of Russia and Putin, have been willing to talk peace since before the special military operation began.
Certainly since then, in February 2022.
But even before that, they said, we'll sit down and talk about this.
But what they will not do is agree to an unconditional ceasefire.
And that's the problem.
Trump, people ask me if I'm MAGA.
I say, no, I'm super MAGA.
Okay, so I'm very, very supportive of everything Trump's doing.
I gave a big presentation last week in Boca Raton on MAGANomics.
It was very well received.
I went through kind of Scott Besson's three arrows and Peter Navarro's tariffs and Steve Moran's Mar-a-Lago Accord.
And it was, I showed how it was really very, very well thought out and the gears meshed really brilliantly.
But Trump is in danger of losing that legacy, basically destroying his administration due to the war in Ukraine.
He had a perfect opportunity to get out at the beginning of this year.
It was Biden's war, not Trump's war.
He missed that.
He's getting, been studying the Indian wars of the 1860s and 1870s.
Trump's getting what the Indians call bad medicine from Lindsey Graham.
james rickards
I think Marco Rubio, I like Marco Rubio, but I think he's kind of in this camp.
jim rickards
Mike Walsh is still around.
I know he's ambassador to the UN, but he's in there.
james rickards
And certainly Lindsey Graham and others.
He's just getting sucked in and they won't end it.
They're going to give them new weapons.
jim rickards
By the way, this whole thing with Trump announcing, we're going to start to sell weapons for Ukraine, but we're going to sell them to NATO and then they're going to pay us.
james rickards
So we're actually going to get money for it.
jim rickards
Well, a couple of things wrong with that.
Number one, NATO is a treaty organization.
It's not an arms merchant, arms dealer, or an army.
james rickards
There's no such thing as a NATO army.
jim rickards
It's a treaty.
I guess you could repurpose it for that, but that's the first problem.
They don't buy arms.
james rickards
They never have.
jim rickards
This unprecedented.
Number two, where's the money coming from?
Germany, UK, France, Italy, Italy has basically said we're out of this game.
Spain has no interest.
But even Germany, France, and the UK don't have the money for this.
They all have budget problems.
They do not have robust military budgets.
There's no unified fund for it.
So not clear where the money is coming from.
Number three, the U.S. doesn't have the weapons.
We've completely run down our supplies of 155 millimeter shells, patriot anti-missile batteries.
We have some, but they're supposed to be in the United States to protect the United States, or they're going to go to Israel.
We're not selling any to Ukraine or to NATO to be delivered to Ukraine.
james rickards
How many do the Europeans have?
A handful.
jim rickards
Three or four here.
james rickards
They don't have 10 or 14 or whatever Zelensky was talking about.
jim rickards
And number four, every one of these systems has failed.
We've been doing this for three years, over three and a half years at this point.
They've all failed.
The armored personnel carriers, the tanks, the challengers, the leopards, the aprons, they were all left burning on the battlefield.
Why don't you hear about F-16s anymore?
Because they're getting shot down by Russian missiles.
Why don't you hear about High Mars precision guided artillery?
Because the Russians figured out how to jam the GPS systems.
james rickards
So they fly into cornfields and don't do any harm.
jim rickards
And all these systems have failed.
So what do you want to do?
Give them Tomahawk cruise missiles to aim at Moscow?
Okay, that's a real short path to World War III.
Because what Putin will do, he'll attack the launching systems in Romania.
Now you're attacking NATO.
Now you are in World War III.
We're Pretty close already, but that would be the last straw.
So, is that what Trump wants?
Because the Russians are not backing away.
Show me an army in history or military in history that agreed to an unconditional ceasefire when they were winning.
The losing side wants it.
Of course, they want time out, replenish, give a little RR, whatever.
But Russia's winning.
This is coming down to the Battle of Pakorsk right now.
So in 2022, we had Mariupol.
2023, we had Bakhmut.
2024, we had Abdevika.
These are all major cities, major battles.
They took a while, but the Russians won every one.
Now, Pakrovsk is the next target.
You say, why haven't the Russians invaded it for the past year?
Well, they spent the past year surrounding it, cutting off all the supply routes, taking every village anywhere in the vicinity.
When they get it, it is a major logistics hub.
If you take it, the Ukrainians cannot supply their entire front and Donbas.
And then at that point, there's nothing stopping the Russians from going to the Dnieper River.
So why should the Russians agree to anything?
Now, if you want to talk to Putin, he's a phone call away.
That's easy.
But his terms have never changed.
He wants neutrality for Ukraine, no NATO membership, demilitarized.
You can have some kind of paramilitary force and get rid of the neo-Nazis.
And that's it.
That's the package.
It hasn't changed.
The only thing that has changed is as the Russians take more provinces, they're going to keep them.
So my question for Zelensky was, do you want to fight to the last Ukrainian?
Now, the Russians had four provinces plus Crimea that were on the list.
Now they may take Sumy.
Sumy is another province near Kursk, and it's basically the gateway to Kiev.
That was not in play.
The Russians weren't going for that until Zelensky stupidly invaded the Russian province of Kursk.
james rickards
And then the Russians wiped out those elite Ukrainian troops, wiped them out.
They gave them the opportunity to surrender, but Zelensky keeps ordering them to fight to the death, so they all died.
jim rickards
And now the Russians are going to take Sumi.
So how much do you want to lose?
That's my question.
Why would Trump want to be involved?
steve bannon
Jim, can you hang on for the next hour?
We've got capital markets, Federal Reserve, big controversy about Jay Powell.
Also, want your thoughts on Trumponomics.
It's starting to kick in now.
We're starting to see that.
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