May 6, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| We've spent a lot of time covering sort of the character and the effect of protests of all kinds around the country. | ||
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A lot of those organized through Indivisible, a lot of them organized through 5051 and other groups. | |
| What is the basic idea, the specific idea, I guess, around June 14th? | ||
| Look, Donald Trump wants to spend tens of millions of taxpayer dollars to throw himself a big fancy parade with tanks in the streets. | ||
| On one level, this is ridiculous, right? | ||
| But he is doing this for a reason. | ||
| This is straight out of the authoritarian playbook. | ||
| He wants to project strength. | ||
| He wants everybody to think that he is all powerful, that he rules the world. | ||
| He doesn't. | ||
| He doesn't. | ||
| As we said on that website, look, real power is not in D.C. It's distributed all across the country. | ||
| And what we're looking to do on No Kings Day is to say, look, Donald Trump does not own the flag. | ||
| He does not own patriotism. | ||
| In fact, we can all show up in opposition. | ||
| To a king in this country. | ||
| And this isn't about any individual organization. | ||
| This is about all of us. | ||
| Whether you are from the faith community, whether you're a veteran, whether you're an activist, whether you're a teacher, you can be part of this. | ||
| As you mentioned, there are 100 events so far. | ||
| This has been up for the weekend, available to register events. | ||
| I would expect over 1,000. | ||
| We saw 1,100 for May Day protests. | ||
| We saw over 1,300 events all across the world for April 5th hands-off. | ||
| If you are watching this right now and you are thinking, well, I don't want a king in this country, good news, neither do we. | ||
| And you can be part of this. | ||
| Look up. | ||
| See if you've got an event near you. | ||
| If you don't, congratulations. | ||
| You are going to be the organizer for an event in your community. | ||
| We need them in rural communities. | ||
| We need them in urban communities. | ||
| We need them in red states and purple states and blue states. | ||
| Ultimately, this comes down to all of us. | ||
| We have got to do the work to show that, yes, this is a constitutional republic and a constitutional republic has no kings. | ||
| We're showing up. | ||
| We're showing up to send a message to everybody else who is looking to their left and looking to their right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And trying to decide, what do I do? | ||
| And as you said, this is law firms. | ||
| This is universities. | ||
| This is businesses. | ||
| People are trying to understand, is this guy for real? | ||
| Is he in power forever? | ||
| Do I have to adjust to this new reality permanently? | ||
| Or will there be a new day, a new day of accountability that follows the Trump administration? | ||
| And by showing up in mass repeatedly. | ||
| Month after month, week after week, day after day in many cases, what we are doing is sending a very strong signal to those businesses, those universities, those law firms that, oh, I can't actually just cover myself today or next week because this guy is going to be out soon. | ||
| He's an unpopular, lame-duck president, and there is going to be a future post-Trump era, and I'm still going to be a law firm. | ||
| I'm still going to be a business. | ||
| I'm still going to be a university. | ||
| I'm going to have to contend with my actions today. | ||
| We are seeing tonight a surge in the price of gold, now trading above $3,300 an ounce. | ||
| Gold is seen as the safest when everything else is risky. | ||
| What does it tell you? | ||
| It tells me gold is shiny and people get attracted to it at odd reasons. | ||
| And honestly, Steph, I've never understood gold prices. | ||
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Well, there you go. | |
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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Mega Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann. | ||
| you you you It's Tuesday, 6 May, Year of Our Lord, 2025. | ||
| Dave Bratt riding shotgun with me this morning. | ||
| The Canadian Prime Minister will show up. | ||
| Very important meeting about trade tariffs, all of it, on a guy who's not a great guy. | ||
| One of those slippery Goldman Sachs guys, right? | ||
| Dave Bratt, he's coming in today. | ||
| He's supposed to arrive, I think, at 11, is what Brian Glenn is telling us. | ||
| And right now, they're going to spend about 45 minutes in a private bilat. | ||
| Remember, we talked to this bilateral meeting. | ||
| They will open it up, I believe, at 1145. | ||
| My bet is going to be a lot less than that. | ||
| I'm not so sure President Trump can take too much of this guy behind closed doors, I think. | ||
| We're planning on 1130. | ||
| Also, Senator Josh Hawley is going to join us here momentarily. | ||
| Dave Bratt, right there, that's the Australian economist that's on Stephanie Ruhl all the time. | ||
| I think he's from the University of Michigan or Michigan State. | ||
| Can't figure out the price of gold? | ||
| Hey, all you have to do is go to birchgold.com. | ||
| It's not about the price. | ||
| It's about the process. | ||
| Why has gold been a hedge for 10,000 years of mankind's history? | ||
| And gold's on a roll this morning over 3,400. | ||
| But hey, it's going to go up and down. | ||
| The point is, it's a store of value and a hedge against time zones. | ||
| Certainly now, given the fact that over the last 25 years, it's outperformed the S&P 500. | ||
| Why is that? | ||
| Why is that, you ask? | ||
| Steve, it's not supposed to be moved like stocks. | ||
| It's supposed to be just a store of value long-term and a hedge. | ||
| So why is it outperforming the S&P 500? | ||
| Do you listen to Brother Dave Bratt? | ||
| No increase in productivity in 25 years. | ||
| That's the price. | ||
| What does the Cortez say? | ||
| Price is truth? | ||
| That's the price is truth right there, right? | ||
| Yeah, no, that's right. | ||
| I wanted to bring to attention folks that you might have missed this week, but I've been... | ||
| Talking about the real economy and capital is the key, right? | ||
| If you want economic growth, you have to have productivity. | ||
| That's down for 70 years in a row. | ||
| But if you want to increase productivity, the key is capital, human capital. | ||
| Is not a sexy story at all either. | ||
| That's a disaster. | ||
| K-12, the kids in this country have been left behind. | ||
| The liberals used to like them, like the kids. | ||
| The left has no need for the little kids. | ||
| But Capitol, Trump's brought in... | ||
| Well, they have a big need for little kids, but it's not a need that... | ||
| No, it's sick. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's a sick need. | ||
| It's a perverted need. | ||
| What they're doing to pervert... | ||
| The K through 12. This is one of the reasons Trump won. | ||
| Those mothers who were not MAGA saw what was going on in the schools and the freak show they've turned the schools into and the librarians. | ||
| I remember when I was a kid, the librarian looked like a grandma who was very squared away, knew where all the books were. | ||
| And now it's a freak show. | ||
| They're all Marxist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, and so good news, Trump's bringing back $2 trillion in capital. | ||
| According to the White House, $7 trillion promises. | ||
| Hang on for a second. | ||
| $2 trillion. | ||
| Let's bifurcate this. | ||
| $2 trillion is what the gross amount of investment they're talking about over multiple years from corporations. | ||
| These are people that are targeting, have talked about plants, equipment, whether it's bio-pharmaceutical companies or car makers. | ||
| That is coming from corporate entities, both private and publicly traded. | ||
| The additional $5 trillion is coming from Masa San at SoftBank, the sovereign wealth funds, the Arabs, the Saudis come over here, they're going to invest a trillion dollars. | ||
| That may or may not happen. | ||
| I'm also, to be blunt, I'm not in love with foreign capital from sovereign wealth funds coming to the United States of America. | ||
| I think we got, you look at the pension funds, our pension funds shouldn't be in China and the Saudis shouldn't be here. | ||
| I'm not totally crazy about that, but that's better. | ||
| That investment, you're saying, is going to drive productivity, growth, etc. | ||
| Yeah, and give the shots. | ||
| And Trump's fundamental transformation here is we have massive trade deficits, right? | ||
| So we have a current account that's out of whack. | ||
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25 trillion dollars on the earth, right? | |
| So as we turn that around... | ||
| Stop, full stop, economists. | ||
| So when we say there's three things you've got to look at. | ||
| An annual deficit of $2 trillion that adds up continuing to the $37 trillion. | ||
| Right now we have a debt. | ||
| Okay, that's one. | ||
| Number two is the $25 trillion accumulative trade deficit. | ||
| Okay, number 18 trillion of that directly tied to China. | ||
| Number three is the $25 trillion. | ||
| Of intellectual property they've stolen or forced us to give to them in joint ventures, which is $600 billion a year. | ||
| And that's outside sources saying that. | ||
| Mr. Economist, let's go back to the second. | ||
| Every time, with my Wall Street buddies, I bring up the $25 trillion, they go, it's just a bookkeeping thing. | ||
| It means nothing. | ||
| It's that, oh, we're buying great stuff with our money and they're taking it. | ||
| I go, are you insane? | ||
| This is our monetizing our assets to pay for foreign goods that they're getting the value added on the production side and the wage side. | ||
| Who is right? | ||
| My Wall Street buddy, Gary Cohen. | ||
| In that crowd that says it's just a bookkeeping or the populist nationals? | ||
| Populist energy, right? | ||
| We're buying goods over the last 30 years from China. | ||
| They get our capital. | ||
| They're investing, and this is the part you don't like, they're investing in our land, in our firms, in Pebble Beach and all this, right? | ||
| Shouldn't have any of it. | ||
| National security concerns, all that kind of thing. | ||
| And so we'll see this new burst of capital is coming in likely from friends of President Trump. | ||
| Or from countries who have learned about our leverage. | ||
| And there's a new leverage at play where Trump is saying you can either play nice right now or you're going to learn the hard way. | ||
| You're saying this is the tariffs. | ||
| You're going to pay a premium. | ||
| So you can either move your production over here and avoid the tariffs or you're going to pay a premium. | ||
| By the way, the countries – I don't have a problem with any of the one countries that are – I have a huge problem with the CCP buying foreign land. | ||
| I don't have a problem with any of the countries that are going to be trading partners. | ||
| I just don't like the fact we have foreign capital. | ||
| From sovereign wealth funds coming into the nation because I think we have enough capital, the pension funds. | ||
| One of the problems is we're putting it all over the world. | ||
| Time to focus that capital back here in the United States. | ||
| Okay, huge developments. | ||
| By the way, birchgold.com. | ||
| We started the road to Rio last night. | ||
| That interview was pretty good. | ||
| Salahi Motion, the author of Paper Soldiers, How We Weaponize the Dollar, and she's saying, hey, there's downside. | ||
| Remember, we love economic warfare because it keeps us away from kinetic war. | ||
| There is a downside to that, right? | ||
| People start to want to get off the dollar because they know you can weaponize it against them. | ||
| She was a lot less concerned about the BRICS right now because she says, hey, the dollars got them. | ||
| But she was a little wobbly. | ||
| When I said, hey, how much the Japanese just told us, put a shot across our bow by saying, hey, I understand Navarro's reciprocity and I know not Terry Bear's and there are no Buicks being sold in Japan. | ||
| There's no Chevys. | ||
| And the Japanese saying, I got it. | ||
| I understand that, guys. | ||
| And they didn't say it was wrong. | ||
| We'll sit down. | ||
| But, oh, by the way, we own a trillion dollars of this crap. | ||
| And you're looking, the last time we looked, you're going to have to sell us a trillion more. | ||
| So that's going to be part of the discussion. | ||
| One of the reasons is that in this deficit calculation, I think what Besson and Navarro and others are doing is saying, look, if you can't close it on actual deal itself, there may be another way to do it. | ||
| And maybe you take, maybe to close it, you buy a couple of hundred year bonds at 2%. | ||
| Now that has been something that... | ||
| It has been quite difficult to sell in the past, given the volatility of things. | ||
| Guys don't want to go super long at 2%. | ||
| But this is a discussion people are having. | ||
| How do you think it's going so far? | ||
| By the way, birchgold.com slash bandit and the dollar empire. | ||
| The Rio reset. | ||
| Get it today. | ||
| Every day we're going to be talking about this in the run-up to Rio, which Dave Brad is going to be announcing now. | ||
| Posobiec's in the Vatican. | ||
| He's going to be here at 11. He's heading... | ||
| To Rome to work with Harnwell. | ||
| Posobiec is also going to go, I think, to Romania and Poland to cover those. | ||
| I'm announcing now that Dave Bratt is going to be our guide down at Rio. | ||
| Unfortunately, we got Bratt in there. | ||
| They know that he's pro-Bolsonaro. | ||
| They might lock him up, take his passport. | ||
| Plus, I don't know if his wife's going to sign off on the Rio trip with the gold guys. | ||
| You're going with Philip Patrick, and the gold team is going to Rio. | ||
| That's like a crypto party. | ||
| It's like the crypto bros. | ||
| It's good Posobiec is going to the Vatican because he's so nuanced. | ||
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This is the MAGA right. | |
| Right. | ||
| He's also taking his hammerhead brother, which is going to be great. | ||
| I think his brother's already the advanced team right there. | ||
| Before we go to break, so yesterday on the Bloomberg interview, because she's one of the top experts in this. | ||
| She's very smart. | ||
| I noticed, though, she didn't want to get near Harry Dexter White. | ||
| You have to ask yourself the question. | ||
| So, folks, Harry Dexter White with Morgenthau came up with the post-war kind of economic system. | ||
| Harry Dexter White was... | ||
| I think you can kind of say almost a genius, I think, about capital markets the way he thought. | ||
| Unfortunately, he had later it was exposed that he was, I think, an active KGB agent. | ||
| I mean, he had a direct, it was like the guy from, it's like I.F. Stone from The Nation. | ||
| These guys were either on the KGB payroll or they were close enough that they were working. | ||
| It turns out he was very involved in that, but he's the guy that really was the, he and Morgenthau were the masterminds in back of. | ||
| Bretton Woods, which is the system we live with today. | ||
| Yeah, well, and it spins out of control, and there's a confluence of smart people all kind of reaching the same dates, right? | ||
| 71 in the Federal Reserve, and then 70s, 80s, 90s. | ||
| 71 where we went off the gold standard. | ||
| Off the gold standard, and then the move toward being friendly with China and opening up, and then the last 30 years of totally losing track of our intelligence services with respect to China. | ||
| And so that's the conversation. | ||
| We're going to take a short break. | ||
| Here's a question you have to answer. | ||
| Was it, what was more, was it more hurtful to the United States, Nixon, damaging the United States, Nixon going with the gold standard, than it was Nixon pulling China out of the Soviets' orbit in 1973? | ||
| Dave Brat, the Dave Brat will answer that on the return. | ||
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Short break. | |
| It's left to cut from the IRS. | ||
| What would you talk about with your vision for the IRS and why streamlined operations will benefit taxpayers and not hurt them? | ||
| Well, Mr. Chairman, the IRS is 30 years behind on an IT modernization project where perhaps up to $50 billion of taxpayer money has been wasted. | ||
| We are right-sizing that. | ||
| So the substantial decrease in the IRS budget is largely in IT. | ||
| We have had a large number of employees. | ||
| Take the option for early retirement or for retirement. | ||
| And again, let's look at the numbers. | ||
| We are just taking the IRS back to where it was before the IRA bill substantially bloated the personnel and the infrastructure. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| And now I recognize Ranking Member Hoyer for any questions he may have. | ||
| Mr. Chairman, let me ask you a broader question, Mr. Secretary. | ||
| The President has been talking about recession and the acceptance of a recession in the short term. | ||
| Do you believe we're in a recession now? | ||
| Congressman, I believe in data, and there is nothing in the data that shows that we are in a recession. | ||
| As a matter of fact, the jobs report has surprised to the upside. | ||
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The job report, of course, less than the average for the Biden administration last in 2024. | |
| But the GDP went down. | ||
| If we have a negative growth in the second quarter, which is, I suppose, the traditional definition of a recession, would you agree that we are in that recession of which the president speaks? | ||
| Congressman, these economic numbers are noisy and subject to substantial revision. | ||
| I, having looked at a detailed analysis, would believe that the first quarter GDP would be revised upward. | ||
| And I would also, with regards to your remark about where we were last year, last year we were spending 6.7 percent. | ||
| We had a 6.7 percent fiscal deficit, the largest we've ever had during peacetime or non-recessionary times. | ||
| So the easy thing would be to do. | ||
| Would be to keep spending, to keep the economy running on an unsustainable path of government spending. | ||
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Let me remark, because you mentioned this, I think, in our meeting. | |
| We had a spending problem, not a revenue problem. | ||
| I want to talk about the revenue problem. | ||
| Let me suggest to you my view is it's neither a revenue nor a spending problem. | ||
| It's a pay-for problem. | ||
| If we would pay for what we buy, whether it's defense or non-defense, we wouldn't increase the deficit. | ||
| So I think looking at, I'm a big proponent of paying as you go. | ||
| Unfortunately, we haven't pursued that on either side of the aisle, maybe for different objectives. | ||
| Let me go to IRS. | ||
| You probably know these figures, and these are somewhat old at this point in time. | ||
| But what they reflect, as you will see, is a substantial decrease in the resources of the IRS, particularly in enforcement. | ||
| As the blue representing an increase in filings. | ||
| Secretary of Treasury Scott Besson answered the question about trade tariffs, all of it, and also IRS. | ||
| But breaking news in Manu Raju over at CNN has put this up. | ||
| We knew this last night at midnight, but now it's official. | ||
| Tom Tillis of North Carolina tells us he's informed the White House he will not support Ed Martin to be the next U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia. | ||
| Cites January 6th. | ||
| He cites January 6th as his reason that would derail the nomination. | ||
| It said it could derail the nomination. | ||
| It is because they didn't put forward the name last night, the committee. | ||
| This is another outrage. | ||
| President Trump... | ||
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Okay, folks, this is the problem. | |
| Here's the problem, and this is why MTG was on here yesterday. | ||
| Up there in the House and Senate, you got a handful of guys that are MAGA, men and women. | ||
| And I say a handful of the 535 total, Dave Brett, do some math here. | ||
| We're essentially half of it. | ||
| Of the half of it, there's a handful. | ||
| There's 20, at most, maybe 30 total that support him. | ||
| The rest are all just standard stock Republicans drafting off him, and they're going to flip as soon as Trump's gone. | ||
| In fact, right now, in the list of priorities, this is what I had Fitton on yesterday. | ||
| We kind of worked that through in that Fitton's sitting there saying, hey, the Justice Department is overwhelmed, the FBI is overwhelmed, you need to have an outside prosecutor. | ||
| That is with, you need a special prosecutor. | ||
| With Ed Martin as D.C. Now, the U.S. attorneys, two most powerful U.S. attorneys in the nation, Southern District of New York, because it's the financial and commercial capital of the world, and then Washington, D.C., because the head of government and everything in the district, every crime here is a federal crime. | ||
| And so he keeps the city safe. | ||
| But more importantly, everything that goes through here, this is why Jack Smith was out of here. | ||
| This is why Matthew Graves had such a big input to Trump. | ||
| This is when the 2020 election, when it's stolen. | ||
| Right? | ||
| You're writing this down with your number two pencil. | ||
| They're coming back on Trump and his people and the MAGA movement ten times harder because we haven't rooted out the deep state and destroyed it. | ||
| The way you root out the deep state, if justice and FBI is too booked up with stuff, and hey, they have a beachhead in these buildings, but just a beachhead with the landing team. | ||
| You've got to have the district. | ||
| And Tillis, who owes his career to Donald Trump. | ||
| Is sitting there telling him, oh, because of January 6th. | ||
| Hey, screw you, dude. | ||
| What do you mean January 6th? | ||
| It's a frickin' FedEx. | ||
| And this also gets to my point. | ||
| Why are we delaying the investigations formally so then a Tom Tillis can't sit there and go something about January 6th? | ||
| One of the most powerful lines he gave yesterday in his interview here, he went over the cast of characters on the left, the brawlers and fighters that that committee put through under Obama, Clinton, etc., going all the way up. | ||
| And so our side now has to put in some phone calls with that list. | ||
| of characters Merrick Garland all the way through that this committee put through who did not serve our country well and then they want to hang out at the cocktail circuit with the popular kids up here in D.C. And the American people are very clear on what Ed Martin's doing. | ||
| And he's been fighting to fight. | ||
| I think the crime's down 25% in the city. | ||
| That's his job. | ||
| And so on every objective metric, he's doing it. | ||
| But that's a secondary job. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| I'm glad. | ||
| By the way, if you put a couple of cops out here, it's going to go down 10%. | ||
| The place was lawless. | ||
| Under this group of clowns you got in D.C.? | ||
| Come on. | ||
| It's a joke. | ||
| He put a couple of cops out there. | ||
| Of course, he's done an amazing job because he has focused on it. | ||
| I don't want to take that away, but that's not the primary purpose is to go after this corrupt apparatus that's the imperial capital. | ||
| And for Tom Tillis and, hey, Cornyn, the whole crowd, none of them pushed it. | ||
| This thing was late last night. | ||
| It was only at midnight. | ||
| Well, you had to do it at midnight to give the three days to do the markup on Thursday. | ||
| Because then they know Shifty Schiff's going to call for a one-week thing that you can call because of the Senate. | ||
| That would take you to the following Thursday. | ||
| Then you would have a day or two, I think, to get it through before the 20th. | ||
| Now, here's what's going to happen. | ||
| Boesburg's going to appoint somebody. | ||
| Trump's going to say no, and they're going to put Ed Martin back in there. | ||
| But it's a deeper issue. | ||
| And his big crime was he called out Schumer for Schumer's remarks on threatening the Supreme Court and paybacks or whatever he said. | ||
| And for that, he's not forgiven. | ||
| But their side always scores. | ||
| Our side gets punished by our own Cub Scout guys. | ||
| And we don't get justice as a result in this country. | ||
| This is a huge deal. | ||
| Because there's so many things that President Trump's working on, the people of the White House are working on, right? | ||
| One is the deconstruction of the administrative state that comes both budgetarily. | ||
| It also comes from Doge, although I haven't seen a number on waste, fraud, and abuse, a tangible number. | ||
| Programmatically, they did go in on things that we couldn't get to for years because, as you know, being a conservative and a budget cutter. | ||
| You would make the argument you couldn't get out of committee. | ||
| Tell people that. | ||
| This whole thing about they're for limited government. | ||
| The Republican Party, it's a lie. | ||
| They never voted for limited government. | ||
| I was talking about PBS and NPR 20 years after all the stuff they did with Bush in the early 2000s. | ||
| I'm serious. | ||
| I've said this multiple times, but I was on the budget committee. | ||
| Paul Ryan and the guys, the speaker, would come in. | ||
| The speaker sets every number in the budget, right? | ||
| So he would come in the budget committee and say, here's the number at the end of six months. | ||
| You guys have fun chatting for six months, but here's the number you're going to hit. | ||
| It's all predetermined by what I call the giant Excel spreadsheet in the sky, and that's the donor money. | ||
| If you take away, you know, a billion dollars from somebody, you're taking it away from a commitment, right? | ||
| Somebody that's got a little sentence in the budget line, and there goes their cash, and there goes our donations. | ||
| And we're addicted to the cash. | ||
| And everybody understands that. | ||
| The MAGA, the posse understands that. | ||
| To get to the most important committees the day you show up, they give you a target number. | ||
| Like if you want to get an Appropriations Armed Services, you've got to raise $200,000 or so for the good of the team, not for you, by doing fundraisers every night, right? | ||
| Oh, constant. | ||
| I was never even invited to the conversation because I beat Canter. | ||
| So I was kicked out of the members' dining room and no soup, white bean soup or nothing. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| Because you had the biggest upset in American political history. | ||
| Yeah, no committees. | ||
| I was on all C committees. | ||
| To get to the B committees, you could raise somebody. | ||
| You were like Marjorie Taylor. | ||
| So they just shunned you, right? | ||
| They were going to say... | ||
| Oh, from the start. | ||
| Yeah, from the start. | ||
| So my only option was to go on the cameras. | ||
| And then I get beat by the CIA, which I find out is a cutout. | ||
| And, you know, I mean, it's just... | ||
| The future governor of Virginia. | ||
| Yeah, this city is on that. | ||
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They were rolling a CIA op on... | |
| On Brad, because they realized you were getting some traction. | ||
| Okay, we're taking a short commercial break. | ||
| Senator Hawley's going to join us on the other side. | ||
| A lot to get to the one probably true populist in the United States Senate on the Republican side. | ||
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| Governor Josh Hawley from Missouri in the worm in a moment. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Van. | |
| Okay, Tuesday, 6 May, Euro 20.5. | ||
| German, by the way, had a complete fiasco in the German parliament earlier this morning. | ||
| They couldn't even get the compromise candidate, conservative candidate across. | ||
| They were going to have the vote on Friday, so we were going to have AFD on here, but it looks like they just, in a panic, they re-voted and passed it. | ||
| We'll have more about that later. | ||
| Senator Josh Hawley. | ||
| So, Senator Hawley, we were up working late last night expecting on the Judiciary Committee, I guess, to set a date on Thursday for Ed Martin, but it looks like Senator Tillis at least come forward and said he can't do it, he can't get there because of January 6th. | ||
| You just give folks a... | ||
| Overview of what's happening over there, sir? | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| It's great to be with you, by the way. | ||
| Thanks always for having me. | ||
| I think the situation is this. | ||
| You've got a number of Republicans who don't want to vote on Ed Martin. | ||
| And this is the president's nominee, obviously, to be the U.S. attorney in the District of Columbia. | ||
| I just want to say I've known Ed for years. | ||
| He's a Missouri guy. | ||
| So I've known him and his family for years and years and years. | ||
| I obviously support him. | ||
| I look forward to voting. | ||
| And I hope we get to a vote, Steve. | ||
| I mean, my view is that if we vote on him, he will pass. | ||
| He will pass in the committee. | ||
| I believe he will pass on the floor of the Senate. | ||
| And you know as well as I do, getting a strong U.S. attorney in the district is vital. | ||
| The district is a cesspool. | ||
| It is a crime wave every single day. | ||
| Ed knows how to clean that up. | ||
| And really, you know, I think we're seeing more opposition to the president's pick. | ||
| I mean, this is no senator nominated Ed Martin. | ||
| This is the president's pick. | ||
| And that's my message to my colleagues. | ||
| Let's vote on him. | ||
| Let's pass him. | ||
| You know, Ed was the wingman for Phyllis Schlafly, one of the true greats in our country in the conservative movement and as an American. | ||
| I mean, what she did is monumental. | ||
| Ed was there, worked with him for years. | ||
| Senator Hawley, I think this is what has our audience confused because we had guys from Heritage on yesterday. | ||
| All day we were on this Ed Martin thing. | ||
| The president – this is not – there's so much going on. | ||
| We understand that. | ||
| But the president comes out yesterday and put a true social. | ||
| He worked the phones. | ||
| He talked to Tillis for hours. | ||
| This is something that is vital and important. | ||
| Like the two U.S. attorneys that matter right now are Southern District of New York and D.C. Given that the president's all in on this, the White House is all in on this, people that are big supporters of the president, like Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri, are all in on this. | ||
| How can we have, I mean, just even showing the Democrats of the nation that were united, how can that happen? | ||
| Well, this is why I think we are going to get to a vote and he is going to pass. | ||
| I just don't see how he doesn't, to be honest with you, Steve. | ||
| Because the president, and you mentioned this last night, the president made it crystal clear publicly that Ed Martin is top, top priority for him because the District of Columbia being safe is top, top priority. | ||
| I mean, right now, you know this as well as I do. | ||
| You cannot go out on the streets in the district and not fear for your life. | ||
| I've got staffers in my office, literally, who've been shot. | ||
| I've got constituents, when they visit D.C., they say, is it safe for us? | ||
| And I have to tell them, honestly, I don't know that it really is. | ||
| This is our nation's capital. | ||
| It ought to be the cleanest. | ||
| It ought to be the safest. | ||
| It ought to be the best place to visit in our country because it represents what our country is about. | ||
| And our own citizens can't come here without fear of their lives. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| we need a U.S. attorney. | ||
| He's going to go after the crime and clean up the city, especially in front of our 250 celebration next year. | ||
| Ed is the right guy to do that. | ||
| I'm not saying anything to you. | ||
| I haven't said to them privately. | ||
| Personally, give this guy a shot. | ||
| Meet with him. | ||
| Talk to him about what he's going to do in the office. | ||
| Talk to the president. | ||
| I think when that happens, he is going to pass the committee. | ||
| I just don't see how he does it. | ||
| Senator, let's go to other issues because it seems like you Understand the president's agenda, to focus on working class and middle class folks, and to make sure that we try to have an economic path where they can, you know, have a shot and have a level playing field. | ||
| I notice, I want to talk about this new bill. | ||
| You're working on a bunch of stuff up there that hits to the heart of what populism, what economic nationalism is. | ||
| It's what the president talks about all the time. | ||
| But I notice a lot of times you're having to partner with Democrats. | ||
| Tell us about this, about going after Big Pharma in this new bill. | ||
| But I see this over and over and over again. | ||
| And the question our audience has is what's the problem with the other Republicans that the president has put his shoulder to the wheel to get them in? | ||
| Senator Hawley. | ||
| You know, we need more Republican populace in the United States Senate. | ||
| We need more Republican populace in Congress. | ||
| We need them to support things like my new prescription drug bill. | ||
| Here's what it does, Steve. | ||
| It caps the price of prescription drugs in the United States of America, period. | ||
| Here's how it caps it. | ||
| It says that what these big pharma companies charge overseas, in Europe and in Canada, whatever that price is... | ||
| That's whether they ought to be charging Americans. | ||
| Right now, in my home state of Missouri, we are getting charged two and three and sometimes four times as much for the same drugs that Big Pharma is selling in France and Italy and Canada and wherever else. | ||
| It is ridiculous. | ||
| We are paying in the United States of America. | ||
| We are paying for everybody else's drugs worldwide. | ||
| Big Pharma knows it. | ||
| They are lining their pockets with our taxpayers' dollars. | ||
| It is outrageous. | ||
| So what we ought to do is what the president proposed, by the way. | ||
| Boy, Steve, this is the president's idea. | ||
| He proposed this in his first term. | ||
| We ought to write it into law. | ||
| No more ripoffs from Big Pharma. | ||
| But to your point, my co-sponsor is a Democrat, Peter Welch, great guy. | ||
| I'm delighted to partner with him on this. | ||
| Man, I'd love to have some Republicans. | ||
| You know, I mean, where are the Republicans? | ||
| We need them to stand up for the president's working class agenda. | ||
| Is it because there's too much Big Pharma lobby money? | ||
| I mean, what's the reason? | ||
| Because it's the president's idea. | ||
| You've put it into a bill. | ||
| It makes total sense. | ||
| People support it. | ||
| They love it. | ||
| But you can't get co-sponsorship from Republicans. | ||
| Why is that? | ||
| I think two things. | ||
| Number one is the money. | ||
| Yeah, Big Pharma has enormous amounts of money. | ||
| And let's just be honest, Big Pharma has bankrolled so many of these political action committees. | ||
| They're dark money. | ||
| You talk about the dark money kings. | ||
| Big Pharma on the Republican side is probably the king of dark money, and they have poured it into the coffers of Republicans, including Republican leaders. | ||
| So that's a huge, huge problem. | ||
| And some of it, Steve, is ideological. | ||
| I mean, it's sad to say, but much of the party among elected leaders in Congress is still trapped in the past. | ||
| They're still trapped in this idea that whatever big business wants, big business should get. | ||
| And somehow that's what we're about as Republicans. | ||
| That's not what we're about as Republicans. | ||
| We're about working people. | ||
| We're about working families. | ||
| We're about making this nation the greatest it can be and putting Americans first. | ||
| That doesn't mean multinational corporations first. | ||
| And we've got to make that switch. | ||
| It's got to be America first, not big business first. | ||
| If big business wants to do something good for America, terrific. | ||
| We're for that. | ||
| But right now, pharma is gouging Americans. | ||
| They're putting America last. | ||
| They're putting their profits first. | ||
| We've got to do something about that. | ||
| You were the first, really, on the Republican side, one of the first to warn us about big tech and the problems of big tech. | ||
| President Trump, I mean, the Democrats talk about the oligarchs. | ||
| President Trump in this district in Northern Virginia federal courts, it's amazing. | ||
| I mean, it's pretty amazing. | ||
| Why is there not more guys like you up in the Senate that are cheering this on and saying, hey, this is exactly what we're going to be doing? | ||
| Because all of these oligarchs, they may be with us right now for a minute, but they're all progressive Democrats. | ||
| Senator Hawley. | ||
| 100% progressive Democrats, woke corporations. | ||
| You know, we heard all this talk about woke corporations a couple of years ago from Republicans. | ||
| You want to know how to deal with them? | ||
| This is how you deal with them. | ||
| What Trump is doing is how you deal with them. | ||
| What Teddy Roosevelt did is how you deal with them. | ||
| Because we have a choice here. | ||
| It's pretty stark. | ||
| Either the woke corporations, the fat cast, the multinationals, either they'll run the country or the people will run the country. | ||
| It's binary. | ||
| It's one or the other. | ||
| You can't have both. | ||
| And what we know is the Mark Zuckerbergs of the world and the Googles of the world, those guys, they want to run the country. | ||
| They want to buy off the Congress. | ||
| They want to control the White House. | ||
| They want to write the laws. | ||
| They want to run it. | ||
| And either they'll do it or the people will do it. | ||
| Can't have it both ways. | ||
| And Trump is going after them. | ||
| The way you do it is you go break them up. | ||
| You go subject them to competition. | ||
| You give people the right to sue them When they come and censor you, when they take away, take away, take away, take away, take away, take away, take away the right track here. | ||
| And if Trump keeps this up, he is going to, you mentioned Roosevelt, he is going to have the opportunity, Trump is, to be remembered as one of the great antitrust presidents, probably the greatest Republican antitrust president since Theodore Roosevelt, who kicked the whole tradition off. | ||
| So this is a huge moment, Steve. | ||
| It's very important. | ||
| And Republicans in Congress need to come in now and say, all right, we're going to do our part. | ||
| We're going to give everyday Americans the right to sue these. | ||
| Big tech corporations, which you don't have right now, by the way, can't do it. | ||
| We need to give them the right to sue to protect your free speech rights, to protect against censorship, to protect your personal property rights. | ||
| That's the next frontier. | ||
| Last thing about this, the big, beautiful bill and the spending and that cuts. | ||
| I mean, you were the first guy really to come out and say, hey, look, this thing looks like it's going to be a July, post-July. | ||
| Just what is, because we hear the House saying one thing. | ||
| So logically, what can people expect when we really get down to it and start fighting over the spending and start talking about the tax cuts? | ||
| When do you think that really starts to heat up? | ||
| Because this looks to me like it's going to go through the entire summer and we're not going to vote on this thing until the fall, sir. | ||
| Yeah, that's my concern too, Steve. | ||
| I mean, I'm hoping for July at this point. | ||
| The process has been really slow. | ||
| If you want my personal opinion, too slow. | ||
| I mean, I think here we are in May. | ||
| What have the houses gotten passed on this? | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| So we need to speed this process up. | ||
| And here are my priorities. | ||
| It's what the president said. | ||
| Number one, we need to give working people who elected this president and who gave us Republican majorities, we need to give working people a tax cut. | ||
| No taxes on tips, no taxes on overtime. | ||
| We need to give every family in America, working people with kids, they need a tax cut for every kid they have. | ||
| Let's deliver the biggest working-class tax cut in American history. | ||
| That'd be quite a legacy. | ||
| Number two, Medicaid. | ||
| We've got to protect Medicaid. | ||
| This idea that we're going to cut benefits from Medicaid like some Republicans want to do, this is the dumbest idea I've heard in a long, long time. | ||
| Our voters... | ||
| Many of them are working folks who can't otherwise afford health care because of what the Democrats did to health care in this country. | ||
| They depend on Medicaid, them and their kids. | ||
| The idea that we would take that away from our people is insane. | ||
| So we've got to protect Medicaid benefits for folks. | ||
| We've got to give them a tax cut. | ||
| We've got to cut back on the woke spending, the Green New Deal spending. | ||
| That's the ticket. | ||
| How do your constituents in Missouri, when they hear that, what do they think? | ||
| Well, when they hear the possibility of a tax cut what the president ran on, they say yes. | ||
| I mean, heck, Missouri voted for Donald Trump by 18 points. | ||
| When they hear some Republicans say, you know, now we'd like to cut Medicaid. | ||
| We'd like to come in here and take away your benefits. | ||
| They have a heart attack. | ||
| They say, wait a minute, wait a minute. | ||
| Many of them, they don't want to be on Medicaid, Steve. | ||
| They have to be because they can't afford health insurance otherwise. | ||
| I'm talking about working people here now. | ||
| Able-bodied working people in my state, Steve, 21% of Missourians, 21% are on Medicaid or CHIP. | ||
| That's the piece of it for kids. | ||
| And these are working folks that are like, hey, they don't have health care at their job. | ||
| They can't afford it. | ||
| They need Medicaid. | ||
| Their kids need it. | ||
| My view is you don't come in and throw those people out in the cold. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| That's wrong. | ||
| We ought to be giving those people more of their hard-earned money back and helping them get on their feet, get a shot, not taking away what they paid for. | ||
| Senator Hawley, how do people follow you on social media? | ||
| Where are they going to particularly get your books and your writings? | ||
| You can go to Amazon, Barnes& Noble, anywhere that books are sold, your local bookstore for my books, Tyranny of Big Tech, Manhood. | ||
| On social media, I'm Holly Moe, Holly Moe, and you can follow me everywhere, Instagram, X, you name it. | ||
| And it's always great to be with you, Steve. | ||
| Thank you for having me. | ||
| Well, let's get to work and get some more populist. | ||
| That New York Times article was amazing about you, but it's a lonely fight up there. | ||
| the only true populace in the United States Senate on the Republican side. | ||
| In fact, there's no populace on the Democratic side, so I guess you're the one true populace. | ||
| We've got to get some more guys in there, more men and women like you, sir. | ||
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We need some reinforcements. | |
| There's no doubt about it. | ||
| Senator Hawley, thank you. | ||
| Thank you for backing the president's agenda and being full MAGA. | ||
| Appreciate you, sir. | ||
| You bet. | ||
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| Thank you. | ||
| Right there. | ||
| It's just laid out. | ||
| And folks in Missouri. | ||
| Trump won Missouri by 18 points. | ||
| He makes the point. | ||
| Nobody wants to be on Medicaid. | ||
| They don't want to do it. | ||
| The jobs aren't paying enough money. | ||
| Because you've got competition of foreign labor here. | ||
| You've got 10 million illegal aliens in here driving down wages. | ||
| You've got these crap HB1 visas. | ||
| The assault on the American worker is relentless. | ||
| They don't want to be on there. | ||
| You go out to Montana and Wyoming, these places, Idaho, they're all Trump country. | ||
| It's higher than that. | ||
| It's not the old days. | ||
| The old days, oh, the Medicaid. | ||
| Nobody wants to have Medicaid, but they're forced to take it. | ||
| Hang on a second. | ||
| Dave Brett's with me. | ||
| Just finished the haul. | ||
| We'll be back in a moment. | ||
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| Let's take down the CCP. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Okay, there's a lot going on. | ||
| And by the way, Josh Hawley just made news somewhere. | ||
| A guy like Josh Hawley, who's very well respected, he's kind of one of these Cruz-like guys with the brain and the big law schools and the Ivy League. | ||
| He's very respected on judiciary. | ||
| When Josh Hawley just said, hey, he's going to get a vote in committee, he's going to get out of committee, he's going to go to the floor, and he's going to pass on the floor, that you should listen, because right now, it looks like an extremely heavy lift. | ||
| I got Jillian Barber here from Done With Debt, which is critically important given what Holly just said about Medicaid and other things. | ||
| I want to make sure we're going to need you at the ramparts. | ||
| The work you guys have done on Ed Martin just in the last couple of days has been amazing. | ||
| I mean, we're in this place right now where it's close or could happen because of you, because it looked pretty grim. | ||
| This is why the president jumped in yesterday on True Social. | ||
| It looked grim until the war room posse through Article 3 and also over with the Bill Blaster. | ||
| Got engaged here. | ||
| Home title lock deck, so we need you not worrying about paying off a hard money loan, second loan. | ||
| Home title lock, $1 million triple lock protection, 24-7 coverage. | ||
| In the middle of the night, something happens, you get alerted. | ||
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| You got to go talk to Natalie Dominguez. | ||
| Go to hometitlelock.com, promo code Steve. | ||
| Do that today. | ||
| We need you up at the ramparts. | ||
| Jillian, the one thing we don't need folks worrying about is debt and credit cards. | ||
| And the last thing we need them to do is put that letter from the credit card company in the drawer because it's not going away there. | ||
| It's just metastasizing. | ||
| Help me out, ma 'am. | ||
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Boy, oh boy. | |
| Today's subject's perfect timing. | ||
| Josh talking about Medicaid. | ||
| People are worried about that. | ||
| They're worried about their money. | ||
| When people come to me and ask, you know, what is it you do on Steve Bannon's show? | ||
| And I said, well... | ||
| I talk about debt, and it all ties in. | ||
| It really is a state that we are in right now. | ||
| So many Americans need money, and they are in debt. | ||
| As Steve mentioned, things happen overnight. | ||
| For me, it was cancer. | ||
| For you, it might be something else. | ||
| So, you know, we want to have that little piece of, you know, mind over here. | ||
| But on the other hand, we've got to live our life and spend money. | ||
| So, done with debt. | ||
| What do they do? | ||
| They come in and they will help you. | ||
| Like Steve said, don't shove it in a drawer. | ||
| They're going to take it out of the drawer. | ||
| Once they take it out of the drawer, they're going to get to work. | ||
| There are a team of people. | ||
| They're going to combat all those letters and phone calls overnight. | ||
| Done. | ||
| You don't hear any. | ||
| You don't see any. | ||
| They're taking care of it. | ||
| It's your team. | ||
| Second, they are going to... | ||
| Talk to all the institutions and see what's available out there because there are deals to be done that we don't know about as the average American consumer. | ||
| All right? | ||
| And these aren't people just spending money out there willy-nilly. | ||
| These are people hardworking and spending money on their lives, on their children, on food, on education, on everything. | ||
| So what Done With Debt will do. | ||
| It's just come in and be peace of mind and take care of you. | ||
| Not only can donewithdead.com help you get on the right track. | ||
| Some people even end up with a bit of cash in their pocket. | ||
| And, you know, for me, it was just peace of mind. | ||
| Hang on, Jillian. | ||
| I want people to understand this. | ||
| Yours happened because... | ||
| Give me a minute. | ||
| Yours happened because of medical bills. | ||
| How did that happen? | ||
| How did you end up going bankrupt because of being overwhelmed by medical bills? | ||
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Well... | |
| If you want to know the truth, I'm going to tell it. | ||
| They took out my cancer, and they said, okay, well, we're going to surgically fix you. | ||
| And they did, ish. | ||
| I had very big problems after chemo. | ||
| It was a disaster. | ||
| I called it a war zone, you know, when I had breast cancer. | ||
| But I'll tell you what. | ||
| They ended up charging, I am not kidding, $500,000, Steve! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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And I didn't understand what the hell was happening. | |
| That was just one part. | ||
| Then I had a business manager over here. | ||
| You know, I'm not a micromanager. | ||
| I'm not good with numbers like you, sir. | ||
| And so I'm working my tail off on a few TV jobs, actually five at one point, thinking, this is great. | ||
| I'm taking care of a husband who didn't work. | ||
| I'm taking care of two kids. | ||
| Okay, I'm good. | ||
| Well, I had this man for 20 years, calls me in one day and says, oh, yeah, we owe the IRS $750,000 and with penalty, Steve, $1.2. | ||
| Now, I'm a woman who doesn't want things hanging over my head. | ||
| I sold my house. | ||
| I got rid of everything. | ||
| And I paid them off. | ||
| $1.2. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Moving forward, you still have all this to deal with, right? | ||
| And I'll tell you what, my head was not only in a deep hole, it was in the ground spinning. | ||
| And so... | ||
| The medical stuff came up as a complete shock. | ||
| And people have things in their lives that come up that if you don't have that little spending tray over here that's tucked away for a bad day, it can be extremely exhausting. | ||
| And it was for me. | ||
| I went, oh gosh, it was horrible. | ||
| The Dumb and Dead guys helped you. | ||
| They basically helped save you. | ||
| Where do people go right now to talk to somebody? | ||
| Because people are in trouble. | ||
| Big trouble. | ||
| So where do they go? | ||
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Oh, they sure are. | |
| Okay, so go to donewithdat.com. | ||
| It's so easy. | ||
| Go to donewithdat.com. | ||
| You can also call the number 1-800. | ||
| We have another number, 3407894. | ||
| And you will be put in touch right away with someone. | ||
| It's like a counselor and an accountant all in one. | ||
| They'll put you back on track. | ||
| And listen, Steve, it happens overnight. | ||
| So it's great. | ||
| The calls end and the letters stop. | ||
| It's almost like it's incredible. | ||
| It's like a dream. | ||
| And then you know you have people working for you. | ||
| So it's donewithdebt.com. | ||
| It has helped so many people. | ||
| Go on the website and just look at all the people with their comments that have used donewithdebt.com. | ||
| And also, just know that this is an institution that wants to really work for you. | ||
| For the people. | ||
| Unbelievable. | ||
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And get this done. | |
| Get it behind you. | ||
| Who needs this? | ||
| 1-800-7894. | ||
| And donewithdat.com. | ||
| It's a free consultation. | ||
| What do you have to lose, right? | ||
| Nothing to lose when you get the anxiety and the angst and all that. | ||
| Jillian, thank you. | ||
| Incredible story. | ||
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Great to see you, Steve. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| The medical, you get overwhelmed. | ||
| You don't need to go bankrupt. | ||
| Not in this country. | ||
| You got guys like Josh Hawley fighting for you, but it's not enough of them. | ||
| I mean, this is a disgrace. | ||
| This is three times Trump has won. | ||
| Three times Trump has run and won and done great in the House and the Senate every time. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| And how many people up there supporting? | ||
| I'm telling you, you could take the entire Republican Party and it's a handful. | ||
| When you add the Senate and the House, there's a handful. | ||
| We've had, what, 10 years of Trump now? | ||
| It's disgusting. | ||
| Why does everything have to be a tractor pull? | ||
| President, we've got so much we've got to work on. | ||
| There's so much. | ||
| Almost overwhelming, but it can get done. | ||
| But then you've got an Ed Martin situation. | ||
| Now we've got to spend time. | ||
| It's opportunity cost. | ||
| Now you've got to spend time and energy on this. | ||
| President's got to spend the next couple of days getting this thing sorted because a guy like Tom Tillis that owes his entire political career to Trump. | ||
| He's saying, oh, I'm doing it because of January 6th. | ||
| What in the hell are you talking about, man? |
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