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May 6, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4465: Bringing The Catholic Church Back To Square One
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dave brat
16:51
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liz yore
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mike lindell
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steve bannon
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
Here's one time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
It's Tuesday, 6 May, Year of the Lord, 2025.
A packed week.
Now we've got Thune.
Coming out and saying, hey, I think he's going to have trouble getting out of committee.
Here's a question.
You're Mr. Savvy.
unidentified
By the way, has Dave Brad been particularly low-T today?
steve bannon
What do you show?
You stay out lately?
dave brat
I'm relaxing.
I'm relaxing.
steve bannon
Okay, but this is not where you're co-hosting the war room.
No, no.
dave brat
You're doing great.
I'm just listening.
unidentified
I'm like, wow, this is great.
steve bannon
A lot of people are coming to me right now and saying, hey, Tillis doesn't do this when he's in cycle.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
He's a cutout right now for leadership.
This is where you get Thune's hands on it.
You got the senior guys over their hands on it.
They don't like Martin.
They know Martin's pure MAGA.
They don't love Schlafly.
The whole Phyllis, you know, her connection to this.
Because they always hated her up here.
And she hated them.
She was incredible, the way she came after these guys up here.
Man, I'd love to have the fight in that.
Do you believe this Ed Martin thing is bigger?
First off, on just Ed Martin alone, it's vital we get Ed in.
And I like what Senator Hawley said.
He's very respected on judiciary, like Ted Cruz and these guys.
They've got the smartest legal brains in the Senate on there.
It's one that's really very prestigious.
Of course, you've got Wheeler dealers like Lindsey Graham, right?
I mean, it's Wheeler dealers, too.
So what are your thoughts on this Ed Martin situation?
dave brat
Well, I think the leadership is acting like they have for the last 10 years.
They're all making bets right now.
Hawley was great.
He was at Liberty a few weeks ago, just gave the word.
steve bannon
How was he received by the students?
dave brat
Oh, they loved him.
The word came down.
He preached, gave a super talk.
You could tell his mind is at work, his soul is at work.
He loves the kids.
He loves America.
But all the leadership types are all just making their bets basically against Trump.
And I think they better be careful because I've seen Democrat articles.
Democrats now are starting to think that Trump's tariff regime economic thing may pay out here.
And then the Republicans are going to look awful.
steve bannon
Hang on a second.
dave brat
And they've made all the wrong bets.
steve bannon
Full stop.
You've actually said something that's quite brilliant.
And it's true.
You can see the Democrats are starting to get quite nervous.
Because they think, first of all, they see people responding.
They don't see people responding to, oh, Trump's the Grinch and taking away the dolls.
They see Trump's rhetoric of, hey, we're doing this to get these jobs back here, high-paying, value-added manufacturing jobs.
The Democrats are getting a little nervous.
Some of the smarter ones saying, Trump's on to something once again, right?
And the Republicans are running away from this.
As quickly as possible and repeating the terms of Coke, of Cokeland.
It's a tax.
It's going to add to consumer.
I mean they're just mouthing the Wall Street critique of this.
dave brat
Yeah.
I mean the left is split between the folks who are realizing.
Populism is here to stay, right?
It's a global movement now, right?
So people are seeing globally all the countries, all the people, the reaction to the globalists.
And then you got the extremists.
I mean, I was in the Freedom Caucus.
These call us extremists.
You got AOC over there.
She wants to run on protecting drug lords.
And fentanyl dealers.
I mean, she wants to run on that issue after the boys in the girls' rooms.
And they're doubling down.
And so the left gets it.
They need to go.
The smarter Rocon and these guys are going to go.
steve bannon
You mean the populists over there understand this is working.
dave brat
They know it's working.
And it's, you can just, I had a few charts I was going to throw up.
steve bannon
But it wouldn't be a Dave Brat.
This is actually what Dave Brat makes up for all his just hanging around.
dave brat
Yeah.
steve bannon
Is the charts, your charts.
Let's go through some charts.
dave brat
Yeah, good.
steve bannon
You got them?
dave brat
Cameron, you got the first few.
Let's just do a couple, just the biggies.
First is the massive growth of trade deficits for all countries across all time.
That's the big deal.
Why do we have these huge trade deficits?
Why aren't we making anything in goods?
Trade deficits in goods.
That's one you're looking at right there.
And then the next chart, Denver, I'm just going to skim through a few of these quick.
This is the bomb right here.
This is the common sense chart the left will never show you.
And this chart is Bank of America, World Bank, and one of the big four accounting firms, Data.
But it shows every country on there is the G20.
They're the richest 20 countries.
And all 20 have 200 to 300% higher tariff and non-tariff barriers than us.
This isn't the Trump chart.
His was fine.
His was just a proxy on the trade deficit.
But here's the data.
And the Democrats cannot explain this away.
And over time, the truth does win out over time.
And so the rest of the world has been distorting trade terribly, punishing us.
That's why we lost our manufacturing workers.
We lost 5 million families in manufacturing.
We gutted cities, Detroit where I was born.
Lynchburg, where I live now, we used to have manufacturing, couches, textiles, shoes, all gone.
Everybody knows a city like that where they live.
Next chart, Denver, I'll just go through a couple more quick ones.
Here's China back in 1981 to show you the evolution, Steve asked me, which is more important, the Fed or the China story.
And they're interrelated.
The globalists are in charge of all of it.
So it's one.
One fabric.
But there's China in 1980 making $1,000 a year per capita.
That's not a typo.
$1,000 a year.
They got 1.4 billion people, right?
Now flip to the next one, Denver.
Here's up to date.
There's China, the big giant red ball off to the right.
All the yellow balls, by the way, are Protestant countries.
Western Europe, European growth kicked off first.
The probability of that happening randomly is 1 in 10,000, according to the macro scholars.
steve bannon
Hold it, give me that again.
What is that?
dave brat
All those yellow balls over there are the Judeo-Christian West, Western Europe, and then the Catholic countries copied the cookbook, and now China and India are copying the cookbook.
But we originated human rights language, economic growth, the free market system.
All of it.
Democracy, the things the left likes, the human rights that everyone's of value, that constitutional government rule of law, that all gave us economic growth.
And so China, you can copy that for a while.
Japan tried it, and then they maxed out and did a nosedive after they got their banking sector in bed with the government.
And China's heading the same way right now.
And Trump is hastening that path.
And now they're calling Trump Maoist Mega, right?
So Maoist Mega, right?
They're making allusions to Trump being a totalitarian dictator.
steve bannon
Yeah, but hang on.
What they were saying is that Trump's nationalism.
dave brat
Yeah.
steve bannon
They're trying to say, well, it's Mao Zedong.
I mean, it's absurd.
unidentified
It's absurd.
steve bannon
But this is how...
This is how freaked out they are that our message on populism and nationalism is working.
Now they have to go to extremes and say, oh, well, Trump is not a conservative.
He's a nationalist like Mao is a nationalist.
unidentified
Yeah.
dave brat
Yeah.
So he's a Maoist.
steve bannon
We're trying to do a cultural revolution here, right?
We're trying to take a dolls away.
We want sacrifice.
Trying to take dolls away from the kids.
dave brat
Yeah.
While he's taking down Maoist China right now today, right?
I mean, they have a fact check within their own article, two paragraphs in.
That's rare.
We had some rich.
They know it's absurd.
Denver, if you want to go to the next couple charts, I'm just going to race through them.
Go to the next one.
steve bannon
Take your time.
These are great.
dave brat
Yeah, all right.
There's your money.
steve bannon
You're earning your keep.
dave brat
Yeah, good.
steve bannon
This is where you're best.
dave brat
Yeah, you said I was low T and Walsh was doing all second derivatives and getting quantitative on it.
And I'm like, all right, I'm bringing them goods.
Here's your money supply.
Noteworthy here.
steve bannon
You got very upset.
Dave Walsh was in co-host and you didn't like that.
dave brat
Oh no, I was jealous.
Walsh is my buddy.
He's a good man.
Not as good as me, but he's good.
There's your money supply story.
The noteworthy thing recently on the Federal Reserve is they validated everything under the sun.
They validated $2 trillion deficits for the past years.
They validated 0% interest rates for over a decade to help out Wall Street.
They bailed out Wall Street.
The only thing they won't validate is their dual mandate to provide jobs and manufacturing and capital.
And so now Trump is saying, hey, the waters are a little choppy.
You know, I'm taking on the whole world.
It's kind of a tough job.
Could you give me a little liquidity just to, you know, get us through this few months of transition, which are going to happen, right?
The rest of the world is all lined up, right?
70 or 100 countries or whatever.
They're all lined up making deals.
steve bannon
So you're feeling this.
You're feeling the Japanese, South Koreans, Taiwan.
It's all happening.
dave brat
It is all happening.
steve bannon
I mean, they're hinting today it could be India and Japan in the next 72 hours.
dave brat
Well, and just imagine the converse.
Imagine if Trump hadn't put leverage on the whole world.
We would be spiraling into oblivion.
Right?
So it's the counterfactual, the economic.
It's hard to see what that would look like.
But we were headed into the next chart.
There's your debt.
I'll just skip over that.
We've been over that a million times.
But go to the next chart.
steve bannon
I want people to see the explosion.
Let's go back to it.
dave brat
Yeah, go back to the debt.
steve bannon
Also, why do people not talk about the money supply like they used to?
dave brat
Well, they don't understand it.
No, there's no economic education.
steve bannon
Explain to people, what's the money supply?
Why is it so important?
Particularly of the Milton Friedman crowd, Milton Friedman crowd, what is it about the money supply that's important?
And why is it never talked?
You never hear money supply on CNBC.
You can watch it for a month.
Never hear it much.
Back in the old days, right?
They used to talk about it.
They were obsessed about it.
dave brat
Well, inflation, before, people were somewhat responsible to the American people, right?
So if you had inflation of 20%, which we just did over Biden's four years, you had 20% inflation, and now prices have never gone down, right?
So you've lost over 20% of your retirement account.
People don't know that.
steve bannon
Your purchasing power.
dave brat
Your purchasing power.
When you pull that retirement account, it's not going to buy you $100 worth of stuff from 10 years ago.
It's going to buy you 80 cents, and you're losing still 2% to 3%.
That's why they don't want to talk about the money supply.
And then secondly, on this trade and tariffs and all this kind of thing, even the financial gurus say, oh, we're going to import high-priced goods.
It's going to give us inflation and all this kind of thing.
No, it will not.
If you only have $10 in your wallet.
And an imported good price goes up.
Number one, either you're going to substitute away from that and find another perfectly good good, or you're going to be limited in what you purchase.
That does not cause inflation unless the Fed accommodates and prints more money.
That causes the inflation, and that's Milton Friedman's wisdom in a nutshell.
And then I just want to get to the productivity.
There's your debt, right?
We're at post-World War II debt levels.
And we are at wars.
We're at financial war, economic war.
We're not in heavy-duty kinetic wars, but we're in debt past World War II levels.
And here's the doozy, the next chart.
There's your productivity chart from the lead guy in the world out at Northwestern.
Bob Gordon, we had productivity back 70 years down.
steve bannon
Hang on a second, because I know people are getting into this, which is great.
Productivity is a combination of technology, capital investment and technology, and human capital.
Why, given the massive investment, because you can't deny we have not had a massive investment in technology over the last 50 years.
Why has there not been a...
dave brat
Well, it was like the cell phone came out and they said to Bob Gordon, "Bob, don't you see technology everywhere?" He said, "Yeah, I see it everywhere except in the data." That technology has not been embedded in the...
Production process.
steve bannon
Even with all the robots you see on the production line, etc.
dave brat
Yeah, well, it's embedded in the hands of the monopolists.
steve bannon
Because they argue that they come back at us all the time and say, you guys bitch and moan all the time about the jobs the factory sent to China and the jobs lost.
You're really losing jobs to technology and productivity.
Your response?
dave brat
No, I'm not a Luddite, right?
I love technology.
The problem is we don't have a free market.
We don't have any markets.
We have all monopolies and oligopolies when it comes.
It comes to big tech, right?
The magnificent seven firms own 40% of the S&P 500.
The seven firms make up 40% of the major stock market index in this country, and they're out of control.
And so the rewards to capital have not been handed down to the worker, and the rewards from capital have not been democratized.
steve bannon
The returns to capital have been...
dave brat
All to Wall Street.
The elitists.
steve bannon
Multiples that it was to work.
If you have the two things where returns can go, to either labor or to capital, the returns...
Returns of capital.
All capital.
Only exacerbated after the 2008 collapse when they bailed him out.
Okay, stick around.
I want to go through more charts.
People love the charts, by the way.
Charts are working this morning.
So I take back that comment on low T. You put it all into the chart.
unidentified
Snarky.
dave brat
Snarky.
steve bannon
Very bad.
Very bad.
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Short break.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
I need red guys.
dave brat
Sitting in here going over the charts.
We just finished up going over with Steve.
Denver, you got that productivity chart, the green one.
We were just getting ready to go right there.
Perfect.
This is the major chart that explains reality today.
The left cannot explain to you this puzzle.
Why has productivity in this country been going down for 70 years in a row on that chart?
It used to be 5, 6, 70 years ago, then 3 to 4, and now down to 2%.
So productivity is the amount of stuff you make per year.
Or another way of saying it, it's the amount of stuff you make per hour.
But it's stuff, the real economy, refrigerators, bicycles, cars, etc.
That's what we're talking about.
That's the more important thing, right?
The stock market is the casino.
It's the noise around the real economy where the elites figure out clever, novel ways that do work to make themselves a little more profits around the edges by offering new financial inventions, but they're not adding to the economy.
And we'll get into a talk on taxing transactions someday, some of the war room.
Heavy hitters have mentioned that possibility, the tax in the casino, not the manufacturing folks.
But that chart right there results in the next chart.
Denver, you got the right there.
That shows CBO, Congressional Budget Office.
Because productivity is down to 2%, CBO has us growing at 2%, GDP, the real economy growing at only 2% for the next 30 years.
So the left can spin everything they want about tariffs and Trump and mega Maoism.
They can spin a tale any which way they want to.
They cannot explain to you why the CBO has us growing at 2% for 30 years, right?
So that's not good news.
We're in a ditch.
And I haven't seen anything from the left and all of our intellectual betters on how to get out of that ditch.
The only person I see with a plan to get us out of that ditch is President Trump.
And it's for real.
What's the main cause of economic growth?
Capital.
What's he incentivizing?
What's he bringing back into the country?
Capital.
How?
Through tariffs.
Modi, by the way, India, 1.4 billion people.
Huge news here, right?
Modi, the head of India, has gone along with President Trump's tariff deal.
They are the first big league country to come around and make the deal with Trump.
That's a win-win for all of us together.
And that's really going to put China...
Outside of the mainstream discourse here.
And they're going to have to come back with something for their own survival.
Xi's got a competitor, from what I'm hearing and reading a little bit.
And the competitor is further right than Xi is.
Further more communist than Xi.
Last chart, Denver.
Last couple.
Here's the Federal Reserve data saying the same thing.
1.8% economic growth this year.
Next chart, Denver.
I think just to close it out on the same story.
Is that all you got, Denver?
Is there one more to go?
Right there.
Same thing, right?
So all of this, this is what the left cannot explain to you.
The Democrats cannot explain to you.
We're in a ditch.
The modern macroeconomy, the debt, the...
The debt is kind of a result.
It's a total disaster.
I'm not trying to minimize it, but the debt is the result of low growth.
If you're not growing and if you've got a spending problem, it's clearly a spending problem, right?
When I was in Congress five, ten years ago, the budget, the entire budget was $4.5 trillion.
Now it's $7 trillion.
That's a massive increase in spending in just a few years, right?
You get COVID, you get wars, and then we never ratchet down spending.
And this is why Steve's going off on this every day.
It really does matter.
That debt bomb is not survivable.
The kids cannot survive it.
Maybe on that note, the kids, we head over to Liz Yore.
Y-O-R-E, your kids, your children.
Liz has been following the recent moves over in Rome with the Pope, the Conclave.
Liz, why don't you set us up?
What's the latest breaking news?
liz yore
That was a very smooth transition, Dave.
Thank you very much.
Well, in about 12 hours, the Cardinals will be in a lockdown in the Sistine Chapel.
To elect the successor to Jorge Bergoglio.
We will know that a candidate has been chosen when we see the white smoke come out of the chimney in the Sistine Chapel.
But frankly, I'm far more worried that in reality it will be the red smoke of the CCP, which will select the next pope of the Roman Catholic Church.
Because we have been working tirelessly on a problem.
We're doing a project called Repeal the Deal, which is the secret deal that the CCP and Vatican have had since 2018.
And we're desperately trying to alert the conclave cardinals about this disastrous secret deal, the ongoing damage to the Catholic Church, and frankly, to all religions in China.
There's no more bending the knee.
To Xi and no more kissing the ring of Xi.
And we can no longer appease Xi.
What has happened in this toxic deal, Dave?
I think you know very well.
In fact, my evangelical friends told me at the very beginning when they saw Francis, they said, be wary of him.
We need the Catholic Church to do the heavy lifting.
And in fact, what has happened is this deal has been a total capitulation to the Communist Chinese Party.
And The Secret Deal is the legacy of the monster Ted McCarrick.
It was his last destructive act before he was exposed as the global child sexual predator.
And it is, in many respects, the final knife in the heart of the Catholic Church.
We really are hoping that people will go to the website, repealthedeal.org.
We have an excellent short documentary that we put together, Stop the Vatican's Sellout to the CCP.
And really, Dave, as you probably know, we have turned over the appointment of bishops in China.
The good bishops have been arrested and disappeared by the CCP as a result of this deal.
They're now banning children under the age of 18 from attending religious services and pointing to this deal with the Vatican that allows them to really turn up the heat in persecution.
They're wiping out religion for two generations of Chinese children.
So again, you know, it's interesting, Dave, in 2017, Xi went to Davos and spoke at the Economic Forum, and he said, all roads lead to Rome.
Now, he was talking about the Belt Road.
But there must have been another message he was saying.
And I think it was this awful Chinese deal that has got to be withdrawn and repealed immediately.
So go to repeal the deal.
There's two big, big, important initiatives that we want people to sign up for.
And we should know in the next few days if we've been successful and we have a new leader of the Catholic Church who will...
Absolutely repeal this deal and tear it up, and we'll be back to square one and hoping to help the people in China restore religious faith and the practice of their religion.
So we're asking for the help of the War Room.
RepealTheDeal.org.
dave brat
Yep, you got it.
Thanks, Liz.
And just a little bit more here.
You and Ben Harnwell have been doing great work.
And so question one, is there any progress in politics?
Politicians can stick their head up.
But can the Catholic leadership, can any of those individuals say anything to give you a hint as to where they might be on this deal?
And then secondly...
Harnwell, especially, and I think you have as well, have mentioned an American bishop, an Italian bishop, and said they're no-go's.
They're going to be in the wrong direction.
And so are there any names that you can mention that would move the church in the right direction on this issue?
liz yore
Well, of course, you know, I think Cardinal Zen, the 93-year-old cardinal who has been the voice of reason and passion, should be...
Elected Pope to tear up this deal.
I think it's only appropriate for the many years that he has suffered and fought for the Catholic Church and the people in China.
It's actually a great question because there has been, as a result of really the war room, the repeal of the deal.
All sorts of articles coming from secular press all about the China deal, because there's been tremendous censorship as a result of what went on.
I mean, we know, and I know you know, Dave, that the evangelical megachurches have been bulldozed in China following this deal.
So with respect to the candidates, kind of the three top candidates.
Parolin, who's the Secretary of State, and who is the architect of the China deal, supports it.
Cardinal Taglay from the Philippines supports it.
And Cardinal Zupi.
So we're desperately hoping that this becomes the number one issue that the Cardinals vote on, and really sending a strong message that they are not going to tolerate this deal anymore, and that it's absolutely essential that we return to square one.
You know, Cardinal Ratzinger, Pope Benedict, the previous The previous pope really understood that the Chinese would never be detrusted.
He pulled out of his deal when he was in negotiations with the Chinese, saying, they cross me every time.
And, you know, any CEO who does business with China knows the same thing.
Well, the Catholic Church has had more than enough examples of this, and so we're really pleading for a last-minute push to get the word out.
dave brat
Hey, Liz, I'm going to hold you over the break, guys.
We're going to break right here.
But coming back with Liz Yor for a final question, the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Atlantic, all the liberal leftists, journalists, stenographers.
They make a big deal out of democracy.
They make a big deal about totalitarians and dictators.
Where are they on China?
Just fascinating silence.
I'd love to have Liz respond.
To that question, right?
When it comes to Trump, they're as loud as they can be with no evidence in hand.
Here we have clear evidence in hand for decades and crickets on the cheap moral issues of our day.
Liz, you're here.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome back.
Do we have the color guard?
The color guard is outside.
It looks like Carney.
I think the prime minister looks approximately 1145, maybe 12. There's going to be a bilat.
I'm sure President Trump's going to invite people in.
Our own Brian Glenn is positioning himself to go on the Oval.
There'll be a bilat.
So probably during the Charlie Kirk show, we'll get access to that.
A lot going on.
Scott Besson just told the House, the Secretary of Treasury just told the House, there hasn't been any direct engagement at all with the Chinese on negotiating the trade deal.
I don't think it comes as a surprise to people.
There's been some conversation, I think, on other topics.
You know, there hasn't been a direct on this, but I think they're focused on Modi.
Japan to line up the rest of these first, right?
To get a sense of where they are?
unidentified
Yeah.
dave brat
I've got intelligence officers, admirals, friends at Liberty University, and they say there's plenty of evidence on the streets in China now.
The population is getting rowdy.
They're out of jobs.
steve bannon
The New York Post has, I think I got it up on Getter, the New York Post has a story.
People are not getting paid.
They're not getting paid their back wages.
It's so shocking they stiffed the Laobajang, right?
A lot of bikes are just like the working class here.
You're going to get it.
You're going to get the shaft, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
dave brat
Yeah.
steve bannon
So, yeah, they're under tremendous pressure.
Yeah, I think so.
Like she said, hey, we could eat dirt.
Remember, he said we could eat dirt for three years.
dave brat
Yeah.
steve bannon
They got a different thing.
They're not worried about the toys.
They're not worried about the dolls coming in, as MSNBC is.
dave brat
In the old days, you could get away with that.
With social media, I don't know if the Chinese get away with that anymore.
They're getting a little more sophisticated.
They're going to be out in the streets.
steve bannon
Wow.
Unbelievable.
Liz, you're...
So, Liz, this...
The whole thing about the China deal making this an absolute central for any pope to be considered, I actually think they ought to delay.
I agree.
liz yore
This is for whoever becomes the Pope.
Day one job is to repeal the deal.
And to the point of what Dave was just making, this is something that we should do for the people of China.
We know that the globalist plan is to Remove, eliminate, destroy all the great religions of the world and replace the state as God.
And so here we are with this opportunity where China, you know, is desperate for faith, religion, the West, the things of the West.
And what does the Vatican do?
It becomes a partner with the CCP.
And so, look, you know...
All the major papers in the world have given Francis a pass.
They've been silent about what has gone on in China, both the persecution of all the great religions, the persecutions of all the priests, bishops, the laity, the priests.
They've been absolutely silent, as has the Vatican.
And that's why, Steve, we had to have this this action plan to repeal the deal because people are ignorant.
They're unaware how this has been a massive disaster, replacing crucifixes with the pictures of Xi.
We need a tough, strong successor that will stand up to the Chinese people, for the Chinese people, and to Xi.
You know, anybody who would tear up a deal on a global stage with the CCP, I think that may really get the world moving in the right direction.
And I'd like to see that, but I don't want to see red smoke coming out of the chimney in the Vatican.
I want a top, and even if it's 93-year-old Cardinal Zen.
Who's elected.
He's the only one I see who is brave enough to stand up to Xi and fights for Jimmy Lai in Hong Kong and has himself been persecuted.
Yet he will not be silenced.
And he stood up to Francis.
So let's hope that we'll have some excitement coming out of Rome in the next few days and maybe some brave men step forward for a first time in a long time.
dave brat
Yeah, Liz, in order to support those brave men, you know, members of the U.S. Congress and the Senate could be of help here, but they're going to be very careful.
You know, they watch every word they say.
What words can you give to the leadership in this country, from the president all the way down, that if you take the right position here, the Catholics will be behind you, right?
No one wants to stumble on some words that are so delicate here with the Catholic Church and their leadership.
What words would you give to our leadership?
Because they should be spreading this.
This is existential to us.
The relationship between Rome and, of course, your Protestant friends in China, as you just explained, right?
The West should be standing up for Western values, not caving into the CCP.
So what words would you give to our leadership that they should share?
liz yore
Actually convinced that the majority of Catholics who voted for, 54% voted for Donald Trump, believe that Lao Beijing deserves the strong voice of the Catholic Church, as it did in the 1950s, advocating for freedom, for religion, and to stop persecution.
The time has come now.
And standing up to China and Xi on this deal, It's going to have benefits that reverberate on all sorts of levels.
And I think it also will send a strong message to Xi.
Yes, all roads lead to Rome.
And Rome is going to stand up to you, tear up this deal, fight for Jesus Christ, fight for the faith of all the religions, and fight for the underground church.
I mean, this is Lao Beijing.
You know, Cardinal Zen fought for his people.
They love him.
And he is the voice of democracy, of freedom.
And we need his back and not the back of the architect of this deal who was Ted McKierke and Carolyn.
steve bannon
Look, from a practical point of view, it's just like under the Bolsheviks, Eastern Europe, Poland and these places were the bedrock of the church.
Right now in communist China, the house evangelicals and the underground traditional Catholic church are the bedrocks.
And quite frankly, I think they've got 100 million Christians, probably more practicing Christians than you have in the United States of America.
It is the driving force of a new church based upon people that are living under dictatorial type of persecution like in the 1930s.
Far worse than the Bolsheviks in the 1950s, what was happening in Hungary and Poland, as bad as that was.
This is a real dictatorship.
This is the foundational element of a lived Christianity that has power, force, urgency, not like the decadent West, right?
So we have to...
And we're going to have to do it.
If we have to use War Room and Posobiec and Liz Jure and others, we're going to do it.
But we're not going to just sit there.
This deal was outrageous.
It was outrageous.
They lied about it.
They covered it up.
It was in secret.
We have no idea what the compensation the church is getting, if any, but we assume something.
It's outrageous how they've allowed Chinese Communist Party officials and generals to select bishops that are stooges.
I think there's 11 bishops.
That are missing or we can't find have been disappeared in Congress China.
And the holiest man in today's church, a man of great moral stature, is Cardinal Zen.
And remember, Zen came over to the Vatican to tell him, hey, you can't do this deal.
And they kept him, when 92 years old and 90 years old, they kept him waiting for three days, right?
And then gave him five minutes with Parolin.
And to even have Parolin's name on the list of people that could be the Pope showed you what a travesty this is, Liz Yor.
liz yore
This battle is not going to end with the next election of the Pope, whoever he may be.
This is a fight, an existential fight, that all people of faith must stand in the breach for the great underground churches in China.
If the underground churches know we have their back, then they will be able to fight this brutal...
Brutal regime that has suppressed their freedom, their livelihood.
But this is a stance we have to take.
And it's got to start in Rome.
And we're not going to let up, Steve, until that deal is up in smoke.
And whether it's...
This pope or the next pope or we find somebody else in the Vatican to tear up the deal.
This is a non-starter.
It's toxic and it's going to end.
And I think I'm absolutely convinced that finally Lao Beijing will know that the world is listening to them and going to fight for them.
And all roads are going to lead to Rome and we're going to have a victory sooner.
Rather than later.
So we need everybody, everybody to jump in, people of all faiths, because this is a battle that will expose once and for all the CCP and what they have done to this great country of China and its people who all they want is to live a life of, to pursue happiness and a life of love and freedom.
And we're going to make it happen.
But we need everybody to jump in to repealthedeal.org, sign the petitions we have there, and educate your bishops and priests and laity about what it's like to make a deal with the CCP.
steve bannon
Unbelievable.
Deal with the devil.
Great work on this, Liz.
We're going to be covering this thing nonstop.
Pasovic and the team are heading over there right now.
Liz, where do people go to get all your social media and everything related to you in this great fight?
liz yore
I'm on Elizabeth Yore everywhere, throughout social media, and my website is youryorechildren.com.
Thank you.
Thanks, Steve.
Thanks, Dave.
steve bannon
Thank you, ma 'am.
dave brat
Yeah, thanks, Liz.
steve bannon
Do your students, do the young evangelicals that are in places like Liberty and other places, do they understand the great struggle we have now still with the Marxists and the Chinese communists, atheists, these atheists, globalists?
dave brat
Not enough, but because, as Liz just got done saying, this globalist threat.
Uh, has not been explained to the American people other than the war room every day.
Right?
And so it is complex.
It's starting to seep down, uh, into the churches, right?
steve bannon
You don't think even the, because the, the evangelists of this guys have been doing is like, like Alex Jones and others.
dave brat
They know the evangelists know.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
Yeah.
But no, but I'm saying is that seeped down because Alex Jones and others, not just ourselves, but so many others have been working on this for 10, 12, 15, 20 years.
Is this getting out about the globalists to the younger evangelicals?
Because it's essential for this victory that they understand this and understand what the stakes are.
dave brat
They understand it kind of in the sense of the Cold War, the Soviet Union, China, communism, repressive, totalitarian.
But they don't get the global nexus that's at work here.
steve bannon
The party of Davos and all that.
dave brat
The evil forces that have their...
Hands around Rome.
And a lot of the Tim Alberta on the Protestant side.
steve bannon
Big time.
dave brat
Right?
I mean, we've got our own issues.
steve bannon
These progressive evangelicals.
dave brat
Evangelically, right.
steve bannon
It's close to atheism.
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steve bannon
Okay, the president just put out a true social.
They're waiting the prime minister of Canada right there.
You see the color guard is out.
They're waiting the prime minister to arrive.
It's going to be a bilat.
I imagine President Trump may even throw in a lunch.
Hopefully it won't turn as the Zelensky lunch.
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unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
Totally out of control.
dave brat
Out of control.
steve bannon
Out of control.
What they're passing down there.
You spend a lot of time in Texas.
That is the railhead of MAGA.
These people delivered a 14-point victory for Trump.
And to have this happen, and not just the radical nature of some of this stuff being put down there to that house.
This is worse than the Bush Rhinos.
I mean, they've turned it over to a very dangerous group.
dave brat
Yeah, they're in your face about it.
I've been down there talking with a bunch of them.
All political views are my own.
But it's not like they're debating the size of a budget.
They're almost supporting the globalist leftist agenda, and it's that bad.
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The Prime Minister of Canada is going to show up here momentarily.
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I imagine we're going to be doing a bilat.
Brian Glenn is going to be, I believe, in the Oval ready to ask a question.
That's why he didn't come on today.
He's getting ready to get outside the Oval Office.
Okay, here come the gates.
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President Trump should meet the vehicle by the...
Why we're watching that?
Don't go to Mike Lindell's shop.
Mike...
I'm just going to hear your voice as we wait for the Canadian Prime Minister to come up.
Talk to me about Tina Peters.
By the way, just one thing.
The President put out True Social saying, hey, he's dying to meet Carney.
Good day.
However, $200 billion a year.
We're subsidizing you and we protect you militarily.
We have to have a tough conversation.
So that'll be interesting.
We'll report back at 5 on that.
Mike, Tina Peters, President came out last night saying he's freeing Tina Peters from a state prison in the state of Colorado.
What did he tell you?
mike lindell
Well, that's exactly right, Steve.
He said he's all about getting her out.
He's going to do everything he can within his power to get her out of there.
And when I talked to him, he said it's one of the biggest injustices.
She's a political prisoner.
That's what she is.
They put her in there because she questioned our election platforms.
Very much a Donald Trump, our great president supporter.
And they've used her.
The judge is so crooked down there with what the judge did.
And he said straight out.
He's good for his word.
Promises made, promises kept.
He said he was going to put it out.
He put out the truth last night, everybody.
And I don't know.
He comes up with stuff.
I really believe he will get her out.
And I don't know the timing of it.
And I don't know how he's going to do it, but he's going to do it.
He's the president.
I'm sure he can find ways to get her out.
It's just like a J6-er that was in and all the attacks they've done.
And Steve, remember my case, everybody, that comes up in June 2nd here.
This all ties back to Colorado when they took my cell phones and stuff.
So, you know, when they tried to, all this stuff where they've attacked citizens.
The FBI, they weaponized the FBI in Colorado and everything.
This should all be exposed.
Not just getting her out, but all the people that did this to our citizens.
They need to be held accountable.
steve bannon
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Sell me a sheet here.
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So, hey, everybody in Canada, suck on this.
You're going to get a sheet sold over your Prime Minister.
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Give me a minute about the tariffs in Canada because they're boo-hoo-hoo.
Trump's a bully.
Trump's doing this.
Why is MyPillow not flying off the shelves in Canada, sir?
mike lindell
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It was about eight years ago, or maybe, I think it was like 2017, Trudeau tariffed all of our betting products coming in from the United States, and it's still there to this day.
steve bannon
There's the Prime Minister of Canada right there, the President of the United States, President Trump, stepping out.
That's kind of the official greeting he does right outside the West Wing.
They're going inside.
So that's a little entry.
That greeting room that's right there, it's right next to the Roosevelt Room and right across from the Oval Office.
The President will now go into the Oval Office.
They're going to have a private bilateral, what's called a bilat, should be traditionally with President Trump, scheduled sometimes for 30 or 40 minutes.
Been known to be quicker, particularly if he wants to talk to the media.
He just sent out a true social that, hey, we subsidize you to $200 billion a year.
And we're providing you national defense.
It's time now to talk.
Mike Lindell, they're inside, so hit me again.
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Mike Lindell, why don't you sell MyPillow in Canada?
The Canadians love MyPillow.
They love you.
They love America.
They love American-made products.
Why don't you sell in Canada, sir?
mike lindell
Well, you guys, we were the number one selling product in Canada on their shopping channel and everything out there, and then they came out with this tariff six, seven years ago.
I thought at the time it was just directed at MyPillow, but it was all betting products from the United States.
They did this, you know, this is what Canada does.
It's a one-sided thing.
It's all about them, and it's very unfair.
Our great president needs to balance this.
And so if you're up in Canada, you'd be paying about triple what the War Room Posse pays if we were able to sell up there.
Not only did they tariff us, but they also canceled MyPillow in Canada.
When I talked about the 2020 election in the United States, when all the other box stores canceled, Canada followed suit.
They might have even been before the box stores here.
So not only did they have the tariffs, But they canceled MyPillow and other companies.
So, you know, I just hope our president can get it balanced a little, Steve.
This is very unfair, and people need to know this.
steve bannon
Mike speaks for all the entrepreneurs in the country, talking to President Trump, saying, hey, these guys borrow us forever.
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steve bannon
Good.
We love you.
We'll see you this afternoon.
Charlie Kirk's going to pick it up.
We are going to go into the Oval Office as soon as the President allows us.
So stick around.
Dave Brad, thank you.
We'll see you tomorrow morning.
Dave Brad.
Dave Brad's going to have high tea tomorrow.
unidentified
High tea.
steve bannon
High tea.
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