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May 6, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4463: Trump Bans Gain Of Function Research
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donald j trump
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mike howell
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robert f kennedy-jr
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tom fitton
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will scharf
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robert f kennedy-jr
And these kind of research was always that we have to do this, develop vaccines to counter a future pandemic.
In all of the history of gain-of-function research, we can't point to a single good thing that's come from it.
And today, I commend President Trump for his courage and his vision.
In ending U.S. bioweapons research, and Jay, I'd love you to talk a little bit about it.
unidentified
This is a historic day.
dr jay bhattacharya
The conduct of this dangerous game-to-function research, which aims at taking pathogens and making them more virulent, more transmissible on humans, many scientists believe is responsible for the COVID pandemic.
The conduct of this research does not protect us against pandemics, as some people might say.
It doesn't protect us against other nations.
What it does is there's always a danger that, in doing this research, it might leak out.
Just by accident, even, and cause a pandemic.
Any nation that engages in this research endangers their own population, as well as the world, as we saw during the COVID pandemic.
This proclamation makes it so that most science actually poses no threat to human populations.
The vast majority of science will go on under this as normal.
But the fraction of this research that has the risk of causing a pandemic...
Harming every single person on the face of the earth, we're going to put it, this proclamation, this executive order puts in place a framework to make sure that the public has a say that if such a risk is being taken, that only scientists alone won't be able to decide that.
That, in fact, the public can say, no, don't take this risk.
And I'm really, really proud to be here with President Trump, who's signed this order, ending this research, and for the first time putting in place a real regulatory framework to make it go away forever.
donald j trump
So it can leak out, like, from Wuhan.
And a lot of people think that.
I think I said that right from day one.
It leaked out whether it was to the girlfriend or somebody else.
But scientists walked outside to have lunch with the girlfriend or was together with a lot of people.
But that's how it leaked out, in my opinion.
And I've never changed that opinion.
So it can leak out innocently, stupidly, incompetently, but innocently and half destroy the world, right?
dr jay bhattacharya
That's right.
That's right, Mr. President.
robert f kennedy-jr
Mr. President, there are, I think, three leaks on BSL-3 and BSL-4 labs.
Our highest-rated laboratory is almost every week.
There's no laboratory that does this right.
There's no laboratory that's immune from leaks, and this is going to prevent those kind of inadvertent leaks from happening in the future and endangering humanity.
The COVID outbreak cost 20 million lives.
And cost the world at least 25 trillion dollars.
And this executive order is precaution against us being involved in that kind of research in the future.
donald j trump
That's great.
Very honored to do this.
Marty, what do you have to say?
unidentified
It's unbelievable to think the entire nightmare of COVID was likely preventable.
And you had good instincts early on, Mr. President, in suggesting it came from the Wuhan lab.
That is now the leading theory among scientists.
It was five miles from the hospital where it first broke out.
So it's crazy to think that this entire nightmare was probably the result of some scientists messing with Mother Nature in a laboratory with technology exported from the United States, that is, inserting a furin cleavage site.
So I hope this does some good in the world, Mr. President.
Thank you for doing it.
donald j trump
Anybody have any questions on that?
Yes, please.
unidentified
On the proclamation designating this Mental Health Awareness Month, can you speak to concerns people are having regarding your administration cutting a billion dollars in mental health programs from schools?
donald j trump
Well, we're looking very closely at waste, fraud, and abuse, of which there's a tremendous amount of people on that shouldn't be on, illegal immigrants, so on, people that came into the country illegally.
We have many of them, and we're looking for that.
For the population that's supposed to be there, it's perfecto.
And they want us to do that.
They don't want to have the waste, the fraud.
And the fraud is big, by the way.
Or the abuse.
Question?
Yeah, please.
unidentified
Thank you, Mr. President.
I actually have a question for Secretary Kennedy, if you don't mind.
donald j trump
Go ahead.
unidentified
You mentioned the anthrax attacks of 2001.
At Zero Hedge, we're working on a piece, revisiting that.
And I've heard you speak at length about how that was likely a conspiracy from the inside of-- The Bush administration.
So with your new current position, would you consider re-looking into that, given the questions that I've heard you raise in the past?
robert f kennedy-jr
Well, we're not at this moment going back.
I mean, you know, the FBI has already done an extensive investigation.
They said that the Ames anthrax came from a U.S. lab.
Their accusation was that it was released by a scientist called Bruce Ivins, who subsequently...
Committed suicide.
There are many people who believe that Bruce Ivins was falsely accused and that it was somebody else in the lab.
It's not something that we're currently investigating, but it's something that the FBI...
The fact that it came from a U.S. lab is something the FBI determined.
unidentified
There have been several Maha-aligned bills being proposed throughout the country, and I wanted to know what...
Your thought was on that and the progress that Secretary Kennedy is making, first.
And second, when you...
No, I'm sorry.
Let's answer this.
I mean, we've had a wave.
robert f kennedy-jr
I think we have MAHA legislation now in 36 states.
In the past two or three weeks, I've been to Arizona, to Utah, to West Virginia, to Indiana.
To sign SNAP waivers to get candy and the soda off of SNAP.
To change the school lunch program so that we're feeding our kids food instead of food-like substances that are made in laboratories.
And to do a number of other initiatives that are being passed by, that are being driven by local Maha movement inspired by the president.
And that are being signed into law by various governors, and we're very, very grateful for that.
We've invited-- Brooke Rollins and myself have invited the governors of all the states to apply for a SNAP waiver, so we make sure that the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program is actually paying for nutrition and not sodas.
10% is now going to soda.
There's no nutrition in a soda.
unidentified
And at the same time, you have, like, 19 attorneys general suing you and the Trump administration.
Like, what do you make of that?
donald j trump
Who are they?
Are they Democrats?
Are they Democrats?
unidentified
Like, crooked Democrats?
donald j trump
Like, really crooked Democrats?
Is that who's suing?
unidentified
They know what they're doing.
donald j trump
They're just hurting our country.
These are very dishonest people.
They've lost their way.
They've lost their confidence.
They have no confidence.
They have no idea what they're doing.
They don't even know what they're suing for.
So it's just one of those things.
Yeah, please.
unidentified
Mr. President, on the pharmaceutical side, have you made any determination on kind of what those tariff rates may look like and the timing of those?
donald j trump
I have.
I'll announce it over the next two weeks.
Okay.
Will, please.
unidentified
Oh, sorry, sir.
donald j trump
Do you have anything to say about this morning, what we just discussed?
unidentified
We have had this crazy system in the United States where American pharma manufacturers in the United States are put through the ringer with inspections.
And the foreign sites get off easy with scheduled visits while we have surprise visits in the United States.
Well, a scheduled visit is no inspection.
So we are at the FDA delivering on this promise in the president's executive order and switching from announced to surprise inspections overseas.
We're also not going to have our inspectors hanging out for three or four weeks.
They're going to get in and out, and we're going to do more inspections with the same resources as a result.
donald j trump
Good.
Jay?
dr jay bhattacharya
I think it's very, very important that Americans have a drug supply, a pharmaceutical supply, that they can count on.
We saw during the COVID pandemic that the reliance on overseas production of pharmaceuticals led to shortages of essential medicines, and that's happened over and over again.
Making the American-- making America produce the drugs that it's long been able to produce is a huge priority, and this executive order the President just signed is going to make that possible.
donald j trump
The President: Pence, you're a big policy person.
You've done so great for me for so long.
unidentified
What do you think?
Sir, you've always said it's vitally important that we have national self-sufficiency when it comes to critical pharmaceuticals.
We learned that in 2020.
It was a key campaign promise.
We've seen shortages in the past of critical cancer drugs, people on chemotherapy.
We have to produce those here at home, and this is an important contribution to doing that.
Good.
donald j trump
Thank you.
Any questions of them?
Okay.
will scharf
Just two more, sir.
We have a slate of 39 Senate-confirmed senior officials of your administration.
This slate includes a significant number of new U.S. attorneys.
Those will be the top prosecutors in judicial districts around the country will prosecute crime and help advance your agenda.
unidentified
The first one is the first one.
donald j trump
Okay, that's a lot of people, and they're very good people.
I hope.
Who knows?
I hope so.
Okay, thank you.
will scharf
And then lastly, sir, we have another proclamation.
This week is National Hurricane Preparedness Week.
This is an issue that's particularly important, obviously, to your home state of Florida.
This is just a proclamation recognizing National Hurricane Preparedness Week 2025.
unidentified
Thank you.
donald j trump
Okay, thank you very much.
I want to thank you, sir.
We're going to be having some conferences next week.
I'll also be going to Saudi Arabia and other places.
We'll be going to UAE and Qatar.
And some of you will be going with us, sir, to have an interesting time.
But I think we're going to have another conference next week, which will be very important, having to do with the world of the medical.
And I think we'll be very productive.
These are really very important that we sign today.
And thank you very much for being here.
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Thank you.
I will
I will always believe, by God's grace, I did my duty that day to support the peaceful transfer of power under the Constitution of the United States of America.
marjorie taylor greene
There is no wedge between the base and President Trump.
The wedge is between Congress and the establishment Republicans that are undermining the President's agenda.
And also anyone that gets in the president's ear and is lying to him about what he should be doing.
You know, here's the real issue.
This country rose up in a historic way, something that we haven't seen in our lifetime, Steve, and delivered a mandate.
And that mandate was to the Republican Party.
The mandate was President Trump's agenda.
The American people said, no, we're done with the old Republican Party ways.
We are rejecting the Democrat Party's policies.
We are embracing Make America Great Again, MAGA, America First, MAHA, No More Foreign Wars, this whole populist movement supporting America and American workers and American companies and American interests and solving American problems.
That's what November 2024 was about.
And Washington, as usual, is tone deaf and has not heard the message.
What we saw is all these Republicans that rejected Trump fought Trump in his first administration.
You know, networks, even like Fox News, that did not support the president and didn't support him in 2021 and 2022, part of 2023, and didn't support him until they realized they had to support him.
unidentified
The president, again, just one job.
Preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution.
Of course, this all begged the question, asked in the same interview, of whether he might seek to violate the Constitution in a different, specific way.
There is, of course, a constitutional amendment that limits presidents to two terms in office.
So, does he plan to run for a third term?
It's something that, to the best of my knowledge, you're not allowed to do.
I don't know if that's constitutional that they're not allowing you to do it or anything else.
This is not something I'm looking to do.
There's that phrase again.
I don't know.
Trump himself really kind of all over the place on this one.
Maggie Haberman reported back in February that in private, the president says this is just one of many things he said to get attention and frustrate his opponents.
Then, five weeks ago, he told NBC, quote, I'm not joking.
When he was asked about potentially seeking a third term.
And there really seems to be no one in his inner or his outer circle that's saying definitively no, at least in public.
I think he's going to be finished probably after this term.
Probably?
Well, the Constitution.
We'd have to look at the Constitution.
steve bannon
President Trump is going to run for a third term, and President Trump is going to be elected again on the afternoon of January 20th of 2029.
He's going to be President of the United States.
unidentified
But you don't really think he's running in 2028, do you?
will scharf
I'll let the President speak to his political future.
unidentified
Our Stephen Collinson put it this way, writing today, quote, Is this like that moment in Mean Girls?
If you're my age, you'll remember this, when Lindsay Lohan wins the Mathletes tournament because she realizes that the limit does not exist.
Is that America?
And President Trump right now?
Except, you know, with stakes that actually really matter?
steve bannon
Fintan recommendation to the president of the United States, to our chief magistrate and chief law enforcement officer, which be the guy that occupies the Oval Office.
You're recommending an appointment of a special prosecutor, a special counsel.
You're saying, if you go back and look at the Constitution, and by custom and tradition, that you believe that President Trump should keep open the possibility of appointing himself.
Maybe with a Matt Gaetz as a deputy?
Is that what I'm hearing?
tom fitton
Or Jeff Clark or Rudy.
He could bring Rudy back in as a deputy.
He's as sharp as a tack and has more experience.
steve bannon
I love this so much.
I want to make sure.
You and I, because we go back a long way.
We're not trolling here.
This is serious.
unidentified
Because when he said Trump is special prosecutor, Gaetz, Clark, Rudy.
steve bannon
They're literally going to explode.
They're going to lose.
tom fitton
The point is, I'm highlighting, you know, there's kind of like, oh, that would be the perfect response, right?
But their response is short of that.
And I'm highlighting for your listeners and the American people, educating them on the powers of the presidency.
And Attorney General Bondi...
I can get support from the president to get this done.
He can, like short of this, just direct the attorney general to engage in the criminal investigations and any resulting prosecutions and manage it as closely as he wants.
This fake constitutional construct that the left has stuffed down our throats to justify their attacks on Nixon is not only a lie, but it's a dangerous lie because it gives that awesome power of prosecution to unelected bureaucrats or people who aren't subjected to the checks the founders intended to have in place, meaning the president running the show.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on this people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
donald j trump
The people have had a belly full of it.
steve bannon
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
Mega Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
steve bannon
It's Monday, 5 May, Year of Our Lord, 2025.
Thank you.
The present just wrapped up.
Signing executive orders, make America healthy again, in this case, make the world healthy again.
A huge executive order on gain of function.
No longer any association or any American funding of gain of function in these countries that he listed, including China.
I'm glad the president did this.
This ought to be part of the active negotiations in the trade deal with the Chinese Communist Party.
And also, this is one of the reasons we had Fenton on this morning.
Should begin a major investigation of all the gain-of-function, Fauci, everything that went on.
Also, that's when the war room's been all over.
Also, active pharmaceutical ingredients.
The president signing the executive order to start focusing on getting them back over here to the United States of America.
This is Rosemary Gibson in her fantastic book.
And, of course, the guys at Jace Medical built a business around this to actually make sure that you're never caught.
Because the Chinese Communist Party have 100% of active pharmaceutical ingredients.
I'm sure that's come up in the supply chain, in all of it.
So a couple more great executive orders.
Naomi Wilson is going to be with us in a little while to discuss.
Also, Mike Howe is going to come back, give us an update on Ed Martin.
Tonight, this thing has to be notified.
My understanding, I think he may be going over to the Senate floor.
I think he's been meeting with the head of the Judiciary Committee, Senator Grassley.
Mike Howell, give us an update here in a few minutes.
Of course, that's vital if we do not schedule the hearing for Thursday tonight, because it's got to be three days' notice.
It'll blow through everything, because my understanding is a shifty shift, and these guys still have some delay tactics.
Anyway.
Mike Cal is going to join us, Ed Martin, want to give a hat tip to the entire War Room Posse, people using the Article 3 app, people using the War Room, Grace Chung, her development team, Bill Blaster app.
My understanding is that the Senate Judiciary Committee got an earful this afternoon.
So for right now...
Just hang on.
Let's get an update, and we'll proceed from there.
Jane Zirkle.
Jane, one of the things, we're working on a thousand things behind the scenes, folks should know, and every now and again we get to highlight them as efforts go forward.
The criminal justice reform, and particularly the prisons, what President Trump did on the First Step Act, and many, many other things.
Peter Navarro, Jerry Christian, myself, taking a particular interest on this.
Tom Barracks.
Pitching in others.
We just got a new head of Bureau of Prisons from West Virginia, I think last week.
I think he got sworn in last week.
Building a team around him.
Prison reform and actually executing on President Trump's First Step Act.
Vitally important.
Jane Zirkle, you wrote a really smart piece about Fulton County, the disaster down there.
Fonnie Willis, the entire team.
Walk me through, what are you talking about when it comes to prison reform?
Regarding Fannie Willis and the Fulton County Jail.
unidentified
Sure.
Well, you would think that the facility that had the chutzpah to book the President of the United States would have their act together, but that's not the reality in Fulton County.
The Fulton County Jail is one of the worst-run facilities in the United States.
It has one of the highest inmate death rates in the United States.
In 2023, when President Trump was booked there, 10 people died in the jail, and that's largely due to negligence and lack of access to the proper medical care that inmates needed.
I want to just run through some of those cases.
There was a man by...
the name of LaShawn Thompson who was found, quote, eaten alive in his cell.
A jail has been known to have a very bad pest control problem.
He was eaten alive by bed bugs in his cell.
And in 2023, the DOJ actually launched an investigation into the jail, which found that it needed a sanitation plan in place.
It also found that inmates' 8th and 14th Amendment rights were being violated, along with the American Disabilities Act.
There was another man by the name of Samuel Lawrence who hand-wrote a federal complaint detailing that he was in fear of his life.
From not only his fellow inmates, but also from the staff.
And four days later, he was strangled in his cell.
There are around 400 stabbings a year at the jail.
That's one to two per day.
It is a facility that's meant to house around 1,300 inmates.
It typically houses upwards of 3,000.
And the building is literally falling apart.
Inmates are making makeshift weapons from the walls that are crumbling around them.
And one other really particularly awful case was of a 19-year-old I know President Trump just signed an EO in relation to mental health.
Well, she came into the facility with severe mental health issues.
She was diagnosed with psychosis.
And she, 53 days into her stay in that jail, ultimately was found dead during a dinner run.
And she was bashing her head against the wall.
Her cellmate reported her having extreme mental episodes.
and the officials who reported on her death said that there were no signs of injury.
So to start with criminal justice reform, the Fulton County Jail should be made an example of and the facility needs to be completely dismantled.
And this is very critical for Republicans in the state I know that Brian Kemp has been the administrative state's water boy, but he needs to take serious action here because what is going on in his state is a massive human rights abuse, and the sheriff has even gone on record to say that there is a humanitarian crisis taking place in this facility.
steve bannon
How does, and also, how did, how did Fannie Willis and all these folks get time to come after President Trump?
Remember how vicious that was when you have something like this for the citizens of Georgia that is clearly absolutely inhumane.
I mean, I don't know how these progressives and how these Democrats, I mean, Fulton County, Atlanta, that's a Democrat city.
How can this go on, Jane Zirkle?
unidentified
Yeah, well, I mean, it's definitely time for change, and there's a mayoral election this year.
The 15 city council seats are also up for grabs, but there needs to be a massive purge of faculty and administration within this facility, and the DOJ needs to get...
Further involved.
You know, this whole DOJ, it's rooted in getting rid of waste, fraud, and abuse.
Well, that starts with taking out the Bureau of Prisons and looking into these state jails.
Because remember, even though this is a state facility, it's still getting millions of dollars in federal grant money.
And I also recommend in this piece that we start implementing sort of a tariff model when it comes to funding these facilities, that we take away the funding from institutions who are violating constitutional rights of inmates.
I mean, for the DOJ to write in the report.
That a basic requirement is just to follow the Constitution in regards to the treatment of inmates.
I mean, what a concept.
But this report was largely criticized as simply performative action, and we need real tangible results here, which includes prosecution of staff.
There needs to be real accountability here.
steve bannon
I'll tell you how hard it is.
The First Step Act, which was President Trump and really Jared Kushner was the architect, just a brilliant, brilliant piece of legislation that can help families and help inmates because the federal system, I can tell you, is there to break families.
never exit.
Peter Navarro has been all over this.
In fact, Peter Navarro is working with people right now about the algorithm, about how it's computed, about the team that computes it, how it's promulgated through the system.
It took us...
Peter and I talked about this.
We started talking about it with Jared on the morning of the 6th, the day after we won.
About a new BOP management team.
I think the guy from West Virginia was designated or announced like two weeks ago and then sworn in last week because it doesn't have to be confirmed.
These are very hard billets to find real reformers and quality people.
It's not easy.
These prison systems are messed up and the states are in worse shape than the federal and the federal's in.
Terrible, terrible shape.
Jane, where can people go to get your social media?
Where can they go to get this piece?
I want Grace and Moe to put it up everywhere, because it's very profound.
unidentified
You can find me at Jane Zirkle on YouTube, Instagram, Twitter, and of course, Getter.
steve bannon
Jane, thank you so much.
Appreciate you.
Okay, when Jane was talking there about the prisons in this DOJ report, this is one of the reasons Fitton, so we had two.
We had Mike Howe.
We had Mike Howe today.
Mike Cowell was here about the Ed Martin situation.
The Ed Martin situation is still evolving, even as we speak.
Everybody put down, we don't need to call anybody.
You guys have done your duty.
The message has gone out loud and clear.
We're in posse once again.
Tip of the tip of the spear.
Thank you so much.
But also Tom Fitton.
We had Tom Fitton come in because of this situation with the special counsel.
This gets back to the prisons.
The folks at DOJ, at Maine Justice, Pam and this team, they are overwhelmed right now.
To take an apparatus like that that has been so twisted, at least from President Nixon's administration before, but even had deep, deep roots of problems before then.
To turn this around when you only, with political appointees and then people even in the apparatus that agree with your program, let's say 15%, 20% max.
80% of the building is still adamantly opposed to what you're trying to do.
You take cash from the FBI.
I'm not making excuses for people at all.
I'm telling you, given these institutions and given the administrative deep state just dug in how hard it is.
This is why these two things today.
First of all, Jane's analysis of Fulton County, of what has to happen at these state prisons.
And right there in Georgia, a great opportunity for MAGA, a great opportunity for Republicans to make a huge issue of this to try and get this sorted.
But also here, this is why someone like Ed Martin is so needed.
Ed Martin, who is Phyllis Schlafly's wingman, brings a different perspective than what you're saying.
In the U.S. Attorney in D.C., outside a couple of top people at Maine Justice, It's the head of the Southern District of New York and the U.S. Attorney in D.C. Those two U.S. Attorneys are the two that are massive because of their jurisdiction.
One, Wall Street in all corporate America.
The other, all of Washington, D.C. Not just the district, but everything related to the district.
And Tom Fitton right there, Tom has told me, I think he's sued the Trump administration now 12 times.
His point is that you're so swamped of doing what your regular job is, you have to identify.
A special counsel to actually get it done on all these investigations.
Okay, short commercial break.
The second hundred days of President Trump starts with a bang.
A flurry of executive orders around make America healthy again.
Naomi Wolf, Mike Howe, next.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
steve bannon
Okay, Mike Howe is joining us.
He's been out and about today.
Mike Howell joins us with an update on Ed Martin.
Can you tell us how we've proceeded throughout the day with Ed Martin?
Are we going to get this notification of the hearing on Thursday?
mike howell
I think we have to.
There's no other way.
The Senate cannot take out President Trump's favorite U.S. Attorney.
U.S. Attorney Ed Martin has done everything humanly possible.
First, they said he didn't have the support of Jewish groups.
They all came out and lined up behind him today.
Then they said he did not have support throughout the country.
Well, nearly every single Republican attorney general supports him via a letter today to the U.S. Senate.
Then they tried saying he didn't have the law enforcement support.
They all lined up behind him.
The entire base is behind him.
He may be the D.C. USA and not have a home state senator to blue slip him, but D.C. is the people city, and the people have spoken very loudly.
They're all for Ed.
He's Trump's mandate man.
He's got to get across the finish line, and we will know tonight.
And I don't even think the U.S. Senate can screw this one up that bad.
He's a Trump guy.
The Senate's not going to let Durbin or Boesburg pick Trump's guy.
steve bannon
So tell us what we have to do, because the audience was all revved up after you left this morning.
I told everybody to stand down until Mike Howe comes on.
Tell us what we need to do.
Just stand down.
What's happening, and what should we look for?
mike howell
I think the number one thing the Warren Posse and everyone can do is reach out.
to the U.S. Senate, particularly the members on the Judiciary Committee and let them know that you stand behind Ed Martin because he has done a great job making D.C. safe.
We don't need to even lean into the politics too much here.
His record speaks for itself.
He has done a bang-up job in D.C. Crime is on its way down.
He's going after the bad guys.
He's refocused the office into law and order.
So just let the Senate know that he deserves the full-time nod, and they need to act today to get him through because he's Trump's mandate man in D.C. Brother Howe, where do people go to keep up in touch with you, particularly social media?
steve bannon
Because we are going to want to know something after the show's over tonight.
Where do they go?
mike howell
I'm at mhowtweets, and the oversight project is at itsyourgov.
We're posting news as it's breaking in.
It's hard to keep up with because so many people, organizations, and others are just supporting U.S. Attorney Martin right now.
It is a groundswell of support I've never seen for a U.S. attorney.
This is a Supreme Court-level amount of support, and that's because the Senate Democrats are going after him just like they did for Kavanaugh.
This is their fight.
We're not going to let them win it.
steve bannon
Mike Hale, thank you so much.
Great work coordinating all of this.
Really monumental.
Thank you.
You see every level when they said the Jewish community didn't support him, you get the letter with all the Jewish groups.
And they said the cops didn't support him.
You get the sheriffs and the cops.
When they said across the nation he had no support, you get all the attorneys generals from the red states.
Every vertical, every time they say something, boom.
It's there to refute it.
Grace has got Bill Blaster.
Mike Davis over at Article 3 has the Article 3 app.
Make sure you make it.
And let's be polite and nice today.
Just go look at the Judiciary Committee.
You know who you got?
You got Cornyn.
You got Tillis.
You got a couple, three folks like that.
Just give them a, hey, just checking in.
Ed Martin's our guy.
President Trump wants him.
The nation wants him.
And the war room wants him.
So let's go ahead and do that and do a few follow-up text messages, calls, emails, etc.
Ed Martin.
Still in the balance.
We've got to know it tonight, so we'll know it in the next couple hours.
Let's go ahead.
We've got a cold open.
Naomi Wolf joins us.
Let's go ahead and we've got a cold open.
Let's let her rip.
will scharf
The first relates to gain-of-function research.
Gain-of-function research is a type of biomedical research where pathogens are adulterated, viruses are adulterated to make them more potent or to change the way that they function.
Many people believe that gain-of-function research was one of the key causes of the COVID pandemic that struck us in the last decade.
What this executive order does, first of all, it provides powerful new tools to enforce the ban on federal funding for gain-of-function research abroad.
It also strengthens other oversight mechanisms related to that issue and creates an overarching strategy to ensure that biomedical research in general is being conducted safely and in a way that ultimately protects human health more.
donald j trump
It's a big deal.
It could have been that we wouldn't have had the problem we had.
will scharf
A lot of people say that, sir.
unidentified
If we had this done earlier.
donald j trump
Thank you.
steve bannon
Gain of function.
The whole story about how Fauci went back over after the Obama Administration National Security Council restricted the use of gain of function, how he weaseled his way back over to EOB in December of 2017.
Of course, Tom Fitton said today those pardons don't matter.
Go ahead and investigate them, indict them, try them, and then when you come down to the fact of giving them their prison sentence, then you bring up the pardons to see if they're even operative.
He's adamant about Fauci.
Naomi Wolf joins us now.
Naomi, all the investigations about all of it, including today, President Trump signs us about gain of function.
Are you happy?
Where these actually stand, given all the, you know, either malfeasance and or incompetence, malfeasance, criminal activity, I don't know, across the board, and so much of Make America Healthy, it's the reason this part of the movement caught on fire, ma 'am.
naomi wolf
I've, you know, come a long way with the posse and all of you.
And, you know, today I'm happy to say this is what I voted for.
This is exactly what Maha voted for, what MAGA voted for.
And it's also like mind-blowing, Steve, that you've got people who were targeted as the most outcast, marginalized dissidents.
Dr. Bhattacharya, RFK Jr., Marty McCurry, standing Next to the president, and even more incredible, since they've been in office, they're issuing policies that are so commonsensical.
For instance, let's have actual trials of the drugs that you inject into your child.
And now, you know, with the gain-of-function research, let's end a horrifically dangerous, damaging practice.
steve bannon
Okay, but hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
The media's telling me...
Exactly, because we had the deputy on that's going to do the trials.
They said, this is more Bobby Kennedy voodoo.
This is more crazy Naomi Wolf in war room, that they're actually doing the trials for the vaccines the wrong way, and we're just doing it because we're all anti-vax nutters.
Your response, ma 'am?
naomi wolf
I think RFK Jr. answers that really well when that issue comes up.
I mean, it's the science we learned in eighth grade.
I mean, when people understand what he's been trying to say for over a decade, that vaccines come to market not only without any liability protection, right?
They can do anything.
You can't sue them.
But also without proper trials, parents' heads explode.
And so he's just making that case over and over.
And of course, the pharma-funded spokesmodels are going to say that's voodoo science and try to confuse people.
But I think the American public is done being gaslit like that.
And I think many people understand what RFK Jr. and Dr. Bhattacharya is saying because they learned in eighth grade what appear...
What a double-blind study is what real science is.
They want it before they put substances in their kids.
steve bannon
You've also found you're working on something new about Big Pharma again.
What's your latest?
naomi wolf
Well, there's a big story that came out.
If that's what you're referencing, which Dr. James Thorpe, the only obstetrician, really, maybe one other brave enough to stand up for women during this onslaught against fertility in the last five years, he broke the story yesterday on X. He pointed out that Pfizer,
and this is so evil, Steve, and it picks up on things that the posse has been learning along with me and Amy Kelly and the Daily Cloud War Room, Pfizer Documents Research Volunteers.
Dr. Thorpe pointed out that Pfizer entered into a collaboration with Myovant Sciences, another pharma company, to develop and commercialize a medication called MyFembri.
And I looked up MyFembri, and sure enough, this collaboration, this partnership to produce and distribute this medication was launched in May of 2021.
Pfizer and Myovan have been selling MyFembri.
Well, the backstory of this is so dark and evil.
You know, because I got deplatformed for it in 2021 for warning that women were having menstrual problems upon receiving the mRNA injection.
Subsequently, the War Room Daily Club Pfizer Documents research volunteers found in the Pfizer documents that Pfizer was We're developing the injection essentially to cause menstrual problems and fertility problems.
I'm just going to say that.
dr naomi wolf
And there's even a chart that was sent over by Pfizer to the FDA in April.
unidentified
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
steve bannon
What do you mean?
Ho, ho.
What do you mean to cause?
What does that mean?
naomi wolf
Well, I mean, we've had this kind of philosophical moment before.
So much of the research in Pfizer-Pieber's proves that the mRNA injection disrupts human fertility in multiple, multiple, multiple ways.
And they were looking very closely at this to the point where they created charts and spreadsheets proving that this injection had horrible effects on women's menstrual cycles and caused miscarriages.
Disproportionately, in fact, a report just came out from the Czech Republic that live births are down 30 percent, which is lower than the 13 to 20 percent that I updated the posse about the last year.
But the focus on menstrual damage is so weird, but now it makes sense.
So is it a cause?
Is it an effect?
Are they monetizing a side effect that they knew about?
I can't answer that.
There's no smoking gun.
That's where hearings should come in.
But what I'm trying to describe is that they created a spreadsheet showing tens of thousands of women that they had damaged menstrually with the injection.
15,000 women bleeding every day, 10,000 women bleeding twice a month, 7,500 women with no periods at all, meaning totally infertile, 10-year-old girls bleeding upon being injected, 85-year-old women bleeding, women having horrible hemorrhages and pain.
I won't go into any more gory detail.
The point is that chart went to the White House on April 20, 2021.
It went to Dr. Walensky.
It went to the FDA.
It went to POTUS, right?
15 White House staffers.
It went to all of them.
And then three days later, Dr. Walensky told the women of America, there's no bad time to get your Pfizer or your COVID injection before, during, or after your pregnancy.
Well, simultaneously, Dr. Thorpe...
Broke this story and I looked into it.
I've researched it.
It's shocking.
While Pfizer was doing the trials for the COVID shot that proved that it destroyed women's menstrual cycles at an industrial scale, like millions of women have been in.
At the same time they were doing this, they were developing a product to give women who are having too much menstrual bleeding.
And this is what they rolled out one month after.
The report went to the White House showing that they were going to generate millions of women with horrible bleeding problems upon rolling out the COVID.
steve bannon
Hang on, we're going to hold you through the break.
I've got to follow up on this.
Now even Bannon understands.
Wow.
There are no coincidences, ma 'am.
No coincidences.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
We're going to look to get an update on Ed Martin.
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Naomi Wolf, that's pretty brutal.
I think it's even worse than that.
What else revolves around this?
Because this thing is pretty disgusting, ma 'am.
naomi wolf
Well, it's a scandal in the making that we can't even imagine, Steve, because what's happening now is you've got millions of women, of course, who are mRNA vaccinated, bleeding too much.
They go to their doctors.
Their doctors will prescribe MyFembry because the FDA approved it.
All right, what are the side effects that you're probably not going to hear about?
This is such a one-two punch.
To the women of America and the world, if you survive the COVID-19 shot...
You know, if your fertility survived, wait till you take my fembre.
It does reduce bleeding, right?
So women are going to take it.
They're going to see an improvement.
It reduces bleeding by about 85%.
So they're going to think it works.
What else does it do?
It reduces your estrogen.
It causes pregnancy loss.
So more damage to your fertility, more miscarriages.
It raises the risk of thrombosis and blood clots.
It causes...
You don't go bald or lose your hair.
Also, it causes loss of libido and suicidal ideation.
So the women of America, you know, millions of them, it was five million women in America who had too much bleeding because of other conditions.
Now it's many, many millions more because of the mRNA injection.
All of those women now are going to be having, you know, being turned into kind of No sexual desire, no hair, no fertility, you know, at risk of heart attacks and depressed or suicidal.
And in addition, the ingredient in my fembre is being used as the fine print to develop contraception and to help in assisted reproduction.
So it's a lock.
I mean, basically, the evil tech people or the evil globalists behind the war on...
We've talked about this, which is why the executive order that President Trump signed was so important, making sure that our drugs are manufactured at home and not by our enemies in the Chinese Communist Party.
But American women are going to be hit with so many side effects that make them unable to want to have babies.
You know, unable to want to do a lot of other things, but, you know, unable to parent well, to mother well, if they do have babies.
It's a whole new war on women, motherhood, and the family.
steve bannon
We've got about two minutes.
You're putting all this stuff up, and you're one of the leaders of this movement to make America healthy again.
My understanding is that somehow your message is not getting out on Twitter, ma 'am?
naomi wolf
Well, it's very sad.
A few days ago, I posted about an alternative health remedy, which is over-the-counter.
It's perfectly safe.
And I got kicked off of X again.
We just settled with Elon Musk and his team.
You know, a settlement I can't describe.
My co-plaintiff was President Trump.
For the first time, they kicked us off of X in 2021 for warning about exactly this, right?
But they're not done with me.
They've kicked me off again.
And the reason they keep telling me I'm being locked out of my X account with about 450,000 people who follow me ranges from paid partnerships when I thank my sponsors as everyone in independent media.
Does, as you just did, for instance, on this show.
Everybody does it.
But also when I just...
Link to my own website or Substack, Daily Cloud or Outspoken.
It's my own thing.
And it's free.
And they're calling it a paid partnership and locking me out.
And also they accused me of impersonation because I linked and promoted a show by Shannon Joy, who's one of the commentators on my network.
I said something like, watch the Shannon Joy show.
So for these absolutely insane and absurd reasons, they keep...
Kicking me off, they forced me to delete posts going, like 30 plus posts going back to...
steve bannon
Is there anything this audience can do to assist?
naomi wolf
That's a good question.
I mean, you can, I guess, let X know and let Elon Musk know that they need to stop muzzling me.
I think it's very petty.
I guess the only other thing you can do is support us on dailycloud.io and over on my...
Substack Outspoken because I'm going to have to do them again.
steve bannon
Where do people go to support you?
We've got to bounce because I'm banned for life.
So where do people go to support you, ma 'am?
naomi wolf
It's terrible.
Go to Substack and it's my Substack Outspoken.
You can subscribe or donate there.
You can follow me.
It's the last living platform.
Or over on dailycloud.io, where you find also all the War Room, Daily Cloud, Pfizer documents, reports.
And you can also help by ordering the wonderful book that Sky Horse and the Steve Bannon imprint produced called Pfizer Papers.
And we'll just fight on.
steve bannon
Thank you, man.
Fight on.
Mike Lindell, you've got 60 seconds.
Sell me a set of sheets, sir.
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