May 3, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| See, I'll get you. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| We'll put this up on War Room. | ||
| Golf of America is amazing. | ||
| By the way, Mad Dog, your producer gets the best clips ever. | ||
| Just amazing. | ||
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Mad Dog. | |
| Quick control room shot. | ||
| Quick, quick, quick, quick. | ||
| Hurry up. | ||
| There they are. | ||
| Look at that right there. | ||
| Hey, Bannon, have a great weekend. | ||
| Have a great show, brother. | ||
| Talk to you Monday. | ||
| Bowling, it was great to see you this week. | ||
| A big week here in D.C. in the Imperial Capital and down in Palm Beach. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| Have a great weekend. | ||
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You too. | |
| Okay, a lot to get to. | ||
| We're going to go to Natalie about updates at the White House. | ||
| Liz, you're going to join us. | ||
| Chip Roy, budget, economics, national security, all of it. | ||
| Ashley Babbitt, I believe the government's about to announce a deal with Ashley Babbitt. | ||
| They've at least the civil part of this. | ||
| It looks like he's been rectified. | ||
| We're going to try to get details of all that. | ||
| We've got a great cold open. | ||
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Let's go ahead and let it rip. | |
| Graduates of the Alabama class of 2025, standing here before you in this magnificent arena, it is clear to see the next chapter. | ||
| of the American story will not be written by the Harvard Crimson. | ||
| It will be written by you, | ||
| The Crimson Tide. | ||
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That's true. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I thought that was rather clever. | ||
| If you look at what's going on, you know, they get their $5 billion a year. | ||
| That is not going to be so forthcoming. | ||
| Now, wasn't that a clever one, though? | ||
| Who would think of that? | ||
| Because this... | ||
| The markets are on an upswing today, reacting to news of a better-than-expected jobs report and signals from Beijing that China might be open to one day maybe engaging in trade talks with the United States. | ||
| Joining us now, NBC News senior business correspondent Christine Romans and national affairs correspondent for The Nation, John Nichols. | ||
| All right, jobs numbers. | ||
| Explain them to me, please. | ||
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Yeah, they were resilient. | |
| They were decent. | ||
| I mean, I'm telling you, we've been so worried about this economy showing signs of cracks. | ||
| The labor market has been a steady, consistent performer for the past few years. | ||
| Now, these aren't the gangbusters job numbers that we saw maybe a year or two ago, but they're still good. | ||
| That's enough jobs created to keep the unemployment rate right there at a historically low 4.2%. | ||
| I did see some federal job layoffs in here. | ||
| We'll see more of those in the months ahead. | ||
| Not like a summer jump for summer jobs and summer retail or summer whatever. | ||
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Not yet. | |
| And we are just on the cusp of whatever. | ||
| So this jobs report survey period was the week after so-called Liberation Day. | ||
| So I don't think there was a bunch of firing because of worries about layoffs or about tariffs that were in this number. | ||
| That would happen later in the summer. | ||
| A big product fair in China and how it's less busy than usual. | ||
| This is where a lot of American Does that mean that we are maybe in a decent negotiating position with China? | ||
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Sure. | |
| We're always in a negotiating position. | ||
| The question of whether it's decent or indecent is sort of in the eye of the beholder. | ||
| One thing to understand, the United States and China have been negotiating on trade for 50 years or more. | ||
| And it's often been very intensive. | ||
| Even now, there are people who communicate with each other every day. | ||
| And so when you look at a trade fair or something like that, you are seeing anticipation of the future. | ||
| The anticipation of the future at this point is a little bit shaky because, you know, people are scared. | ||
| They're uncertain. | ||
| And uncertainty, you know, affects all of this. | ||
| But at the end of the day, that's also something that brings people into the negotiating table. | ||
| And my sense is that, you know, if you understand that the frameworks are already there, It's not just China. | ||
| It's countries around the world that have trade relationships with the United States. | ||
| And many of those countries, I've talked to people around the world, I was just in Europe, people are saying, you know, look, we're ready to walk up to that table and say, here's what we've got right now. | ||
| We'd like to continue it. | ||
| Do you want to alter it some? | ||
| How would we do that, etc.? | ||
| It's the same with the Chinese. | ||
| So I'm always a little skeptical when they say, oh, China has indicated that they're willing to negotiate. | ||
| China's always willing to negotiate. | ||
| It's just a question of what you get in that negotiation. | ||
| Right now, because of the tension, I think there's a lot of desire, certainly on the side of the Chinese, maybe also on the side of the United States, to get something that calms it down and gets those trade fairs much busier. | ||
| President Trump is trying to strong-arm public broadcasting, signing an executive order yesterday aimed at cutting federal funding for NPR and PBS, arguing that they are left-wing propaganda, his words. | ||
| In response, NPR called the order an affront to the First Amendment. | ||
| The president has been trying to limit or intimidate institutions whose speech he does not agree with for months now, going after private universities like Harvard and Columbia, other media companies like NBC, ABC and CBS, law firms who bring cases he does not agree with, | ||
| and even individuals who have spoken truths he would rather not accept, like his former CISA head, Chris Krebs, who said the 2020 election was fair. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| You're just not got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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Mega Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann. | ||
| you | ||
| It's Friday, 2 May, Europe, our Lord, 2025. | ||
| Just as we are coming on, a story breaking in the Washington Post, that would be the Jeff Bezos, Amazon, Democracy Dies in Darkness, Washington Post, that President Trump, their headline, President Trump plans significant or deep cuts into the intelligence community, | ||
| starting with the CIA. | ||
| It's being reported that 1,200 CIA personnel... | ||
| Out of approximately 22,000, because I think that's actually a classified number, but the public number they talk about is 22,000. | ||
| 1,200. | ||
| Radcliffe's putting forward a plan. | ||
| Mainly, not so much mass firings as really are buyouts. | ||
| It looks like just attrition. | ||
| As people retire and let go, these billets are not filled with new personnel. | ||
| Like I said, all of these are kind of good first starts. | ||
| You've got to start somewhere, but obviously... | ||
| The CIA and the FBI, the process of really restructuring these, we're not taking a maximalist position out of the gate. | ||
| It's a gradualist. | ||
| Number one, an FBI looks like nothing's happened. | ||
| I hear there's a thousand guys been let go, but I think it's more of this kind of, they're let go over time as their contracts come expired. | ||
| Both the FBI, DOJ, The intelligence community across the board need a massive restructuring. | ||
| I'm going to go back and harp on what I harped on this morning. | ||
| We're burning daylight. | ||
| You need a massive restructuring of the administrative state and an eradication of the deep state. | ||
| Eradication of the deep state. | ||
| I haven't seen any names come of the CIA being investigated. | ||
| I haven't seen anybody perked, walked out of the CIA. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| Given what the CIA's done over the last four years, over many decades. | ||
| But particularly the last four years under Biden or the FBI or the Justice Department. | ||
| And there's not mass firings. | ||
| There's not mass arrest. | ||
| There's not a fundamental, you know, put the fear of God in them, restructuring. | ||
| The same intensity we're bringing to the law firms. | ||
| The same intensity you're bringing to the universities. | ||
| The same intensity you're bringing to the broadcast media and cable. | ||
| And there is intensity and purpose and intention. | ||
| What do all these have in common? | ||
| They all have one thing in common. | ||
| No, evil's not the answer. | ||
| That's obviously in common, but not evil. | ||
| No, they're all at the public trough. | ||
| Why do you have leverage over the law firms? | ||
| You put in there, we're taking your security clearances, we are taking you, you're not going to have any clients, or if any clients have government contracts, oh, by the way, if any of your, if any people still retain you, their government contracts are going to go. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Paul Weiss surrenders in 24 hours. | ||
| The toughest of the tough. | ||
| Then Skadden-Arps, every falls in line. | ||
| Plus, they throw in Skadden-Arps, those in $100 million of pro bono work. | ||
| The law firms are creating nonstop. | ||
| They get a couple putting up a fight, but that's a rearguard action. | ||
| The universities. | ||
| Columbia completely cratered. | ||
| Harvard's going to crater. | ||
| In Harvard, they haven't been tough enough. | ||
| They're taking away the tax-free status today or putting that in motion. | ||
| But they haven't cut off all the government grants and government funds should be cut off immediately. | ||
| I don't care if it's seven or eight billion dollars. | ||
| I don't care if it's cancer, you know, the cure cancer research. | ||
| It'll get back as soon as you do what we want you to do because we're paying for it. | ||
| And if you don't want to hear what we have to say, then fine, don't take the money. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| Then run it yourself. | ||
| Do yourself. | ||
| Do what Hillsdale does. | ||
| Larry Arndt doesn't have to listen to this because he doesn't take any government money. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| Be independent. | ||
| This is why now it's all, you know, people, their heads are all blowing up. | ||
| Bannon's saying you've got to take on the, yeah, the public Ivies. | ||
| University of Michigan, University of Wisconsin, University of Virginia, University of North Carolina, Berkeley, University of California, Los Angeles. | ||
| Let's throw in University of Arizona. | ||
| You know, you don't have to touch the SEC schools. | ||
| They're already pretty square. | ||
| But hey, let's throw in the University of Florida. | ||
| They brag about being the Harvard of the... | ||
| The SEC, let's go. | ||
| They got some woke down there. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| And don't put the burden on the Jewish kids. | ||
| It's deeper than anti-Semitism. | ||
| Anti-Semitism is terrible, and that is clearly one major element, but that's not it. | ||
| It's their neo-Marxist anti-American. | ||
| They hate this country. | ||
| And fine, you can hate on it all you want as long as you're not taking government money or an institution taking government money. | ||
| If you're going to do that, you're going to go. | ||
| Right? | ||
| You've got to go or no more money. | ||
| Just cut the money off. | ||
| How's Michigan going to finance the University of Michigan? | ||
| They're not. | ||
| Citizens of Michigan can't. | ||
| What about Wisconsin? | ||
| Can't do that. | ||
| So you've got them between a rock and a hard place. | ||
| And cut the tax-exempt status. | ||
| All you're doing there is underwriting the wealthy. | ||
| That's just underwriting the wealthy. | ||
| And the elites, why do it? | ||
| Why do it on your nickel when they hate you, they detest you? | ||
| Why do it? | ||
| The same with these agencies. | ||
| The way you do is you cut off the money. | ||
| Cut it. | ||
| Let's have a 50% budget cut. | ||
| Hell, Mike, the way to get to the judiciary, the start, what does Mike Davis recommend? | ||
| What's his first recommendation? | ||
| House judiciary should take the budget from $10 billion to $8 billion. | ||
| Cut $2 billion right off the bat. | ||
| Cut it off. | ||
| It's all your money. | ||
| What ties the whole system together, have you noticed? | ||
| Is cash money from the federal government, and that would be from you. | ||
| Who they're playing for suckers. | ||
| You're being played for suckers. | ||
| You underwrite all this hate on you. | ||
| Think about that for a second. | ||
| Step back. | ||
| Trump's the first guy to say, hey, how about this? | ||
| No money. | ||
| Bill Maher calls it new rules. | ||
| New rule. | ||
| You hating on MAGA? | ||
| You hating on working class? | ||
| You hating on the middle class? | ||
| You hate America? | ||
| You hate the Judeo-Christian West? | ||
| You hate all the values of this great country? | ||
| Fine. | ||
| It's a free country, but we don't have to pay for it. | ||
| And what is PBS calling for First Amendment? | ||
| What has First Amendment got to do with this, dude? | ||
| Go have your First Amendment anywhere. | ||
| We're cutting you off from money. | ||
| Taxpayer money. | ||
| The taxpayer money? | ||
| It's a First Amendment? | ||
| No. | ||
| You can go say anything you want. | ||
| You can go do anything you want. | ||
| PBS, NPR, you're all free. | ||
| Go do it. | ||
| You're not going to get government funding to do it. | ||
| That's all going to get cut off. | ||
| And take this down to the statutory, you know, minimums. | ||
| Go out in the street and do your First Amendment, baby. | ||
| Go for it. | ||
| Go be talking smack. | ||
| Smack talk. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| We're just not going to pay for your smack talk. | ||
| You notice how you get all their attention, that they ain't so tough. | ||
| When they don't have access to your money, it's like the Catholic bishops. | ||
| Oh, we support the migrant. | ||
| We support the other. | ||
| You people are all nativists. | ||
| You people are all xenophones. | ||
| As soon as you cut Catholic cherries off, the billions you give them, they come back after 50 years of a program, of 50 years of program, to help the other. | ||
| We've decided upon deep reflection, thought, and prayer. | ||
| B.S. The money got cut off, right? | ||
| And you don't have enough now because you're not teaching Catholicism. | ||
| So people have cut you off in the second collection. | ||
| You're barely hanging on. | ||
| And all of a sudden, you can't do it unless you get taxpayer money to, guess what, invade the country. | ||
| That's logical. | ||
| Cut all their money off. | ||
| All of it. | ||
| Not some of it. | ||
| All of it. | ||
| The only thing these people understand is smash mouth. | ||
| The only thing they understand is smash mouth. | ||
| Cut the money off. | ||
| Back in a moment in the war room. | ||
| We're working to those global elites. | ||
| Tell me why President Trump has now won three elections on campaigning. | ||
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Let's call it two. | |
| Three on the idea that the current system, the status quo, does not work. | ||
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Really interesting, just around the three elections. | |
| I mean, he won two elections, and people believe that, you know, the election in 2020, he still believes that that was rigged. | ||
| That is not true, is it? | ||
| I mean, let's be honest. | ||
| 2020 election? | ||
| Three elections. | ||
| Maybe four. | ||
| Steve Bannon says 2028. | ||
| Okay, what do you think? | ||
| I think we've done more to destroy the hegemony of the United States dollar by allowing China into the WTO, allowing the Chinese Communist Party to rise. | ||
| Even the idea of stealing, what is it, Russian assets and giving it to Ukraine. | ||
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But other countries will rise up. | |
| You know, the world is not just made for America by America. | ||
| I think you and I are both smart enough to admit that China's rise did not occur in a vacuum. | ||
| happened due to decades of very elite, multi-billion dollar political warfare operations buying off elites in my country and yours, favorable trade deals. | ||
| They should enter the WTO. | ||
| They've gained the system. | ||
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Yes, and that's what we're trying to push back. | |
| But it's not just that. | ||
| They've gained the system, but they're all incredibly hardworking, and they're really smart. | ||
| And I think that's something that America sometimes misses when it looks at China. | ||
| Yes, China has gained the system, but China's also got there to a large extent. | ||
| By its own merit. | ||
| That doesn't say you want to live there necessarily. | ||
| Well, when you say by its own merit, I think you also mean by slave labor and repressing the leaders in Xinjiang. | ||
| And yes, I have been to China. | ||
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Well, there's all that too. | |
| I think that's a euphemistic spin for why China's risen. | ||
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There's all that too. | |
| But the reason why they're the world's second largest superpower, second richest economy, soon to be the richest, is not just because of those Uyghur camps, those concentration camps for Uyghurs. | ||
| It's also because... | ||
| They work hard. | ||
| They, you know, have turned good ideas into good businesses. | ||
| They work hard for 15 cents a day. | ||
| No, they are where they are. | ||
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The wage levels have gone up considerably. | |
| Because they have absolutely infiltrated every single country in the entire world. | ||
| From the United Front Work Department, they've obviously targeted Western elites. | ||
| That's why you see the apoplexy over what's going on with the tariffs. | ||
| It's why they launched the Belt and Road. | ||
| It's why they launched Made in China 2025. | ||
| It's why they have all their goals that can culminate in 2030 to be essentially the new global superpower. | ||
| And what Trump is doing is pushing back because if you don't, they will take over the world as they already have. | ||
| And I'm sorry, I would think a press corps that is so for open borders and mass migration and the idea that the American working class needs to compete with a bunch of foreign labor that they would be able to handle a few new media journalists plopped in there. | ||
| They're a beautiful building that's hidden behind walls and you need ID to get in. | ||
| I've heard all their rhetoric and narratives about that, how that's racist and inefficient. | ||
| So I think that they should be able to handle a few new media people. | ||
| Who in there would you point to and say is unbiased? | ||
| What outlet do you think I should model myself after in terms of not having a bias? | ||
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I think you should be yourself. | |
| But I'm serious. | ||
| What outlet in there do you think is actually unbiased, if there are any? | ||
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I couldn't possibly comment. | |
| It's been really interesting talking to you. | ||
| You're not scared? | ||
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No, no. | |
| I'm terrified. | ||
| That was... | ||
| What did I just watch? | ||
| The brother got a standing eight count at the first. | ||
| Natalie, that's just not fair. | ||
| That's not fair. | ||
| You can't be eviscerating. | ||
| What did we just see? | ||
| What was that? | ||
| That's one of Britain's largest broadcasters. | ||
| That's Channel 4. We sat down for an extended podcast. | ||
| I think maybe they had taken the... | ||
| Daily Mail depiction of who Natalie Winters is, so they thought they were going to have a walk in the park. | ||
| But it was really nice to be able to sit down with, I think, a journalist who represents some sort of globalist legacy media that we talk about. | ||
| And every single issue that he tried to confront me on, whether it was trade, the economy, the rise of China, immigration, new media, things that we talk about on this show, and even the stuff that they cut from the interview, they had absolutely no comeback to it. | ||
| It was as if they had never heard it before. | ||
| Always an honor for the legacy media people to invite us on, though I think I'm slowly realizing why they don't do it too much. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| This is incredibly serious, is what shocked me. | ||
| I mean, Channel 4 is, you know, outside of BBC, arguably the most prominent, right? | ||
| Or one of the most prominent in all the United Kingdom. | ||
| It seemed to me he had no basic... | ||
| And you see this across the mainstream media. | ||
| And I say they're actors. | ||
| Forget journalists. | ||
| They don't really know anything. | ||
| It's like they have never... | ||
| It'd be like a new audience member coming to War Room and watching it for the first time. | ||
| You're kind of confused. | ||
| It's nomenclature. | ||
| And what are these guys talking about? | ||
| This guy had no earthy idea on any topic he asked a question. | ||
| They just got their standard snarky... | ||
| They made a fundamental mistake. | ||
| They forgot the part about you that you went to the University of Chicago in one of the top prep schools in the country. | ||
| You're a top student. | ||
| You've been grinding as an intern in deep research and investigative reporting since you were 17 years old. | ||
| And you know these verticals better than anyone except for maybe a Hill staffer or two on their specific thing. | ||
| You know it on 50 on these topics. | ||
| He just was not prepared. | ||
| He was not prepped for that interview. | ||
| They thought they were going to come in. | ||
| And just blow you out of the water because they're looking at the pictures in the Daily Mail. | ||
| They clearly didn't get it. | ||
| This was, in normal times, in olden days, that would be a career killer for that guy. | ||
| A career killer. | ||
| He was totally unprepared. | ||
| He had no follow-up. | ||
| Every time you're just up in his face, you're in his grill, just bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, with facts and details and interconnections. | ||
| Well, Steve, I mean, we essentially got him to defend the Xinjiang concentration camps multiple times. | ||
| That was his argument. | ||
| The reason why China is dominating the United States is because they have forced labor. | ||
| And by the way, Steve, this is not just some, like, random one-off, I think, thought that plagues you. | ||
| The legacy media. | ||
| I've been getting attacked all day on X. People who work at the Atlantic, the New Yorker, saying that my take on Chinese slave labor was extremely reductive and that apparently the Chinese people actually have free will to choose where they want to work for, | ||
| sorry, maybe not 15 cents a day, maybe 16 cents a day. | ||
| It's absolutely absurd. | ||
| But frankly, Steve, I think it speaks to the capture. | ||
| Of legacy media by the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| You know, that's what I got my roots in. | ||
| And these people fundamentally have taken the Chinese Communist Party propaganda spin that the rise of China is some economic miracle rooted in that country being fantastic and their unique economic model, when in reality it's just been more of a result, right? | ||
| They treat it like you always say, the first law of thermodynamics. | ||
| It's not, and it never has been. | ||
| And it's just interesting to see these worldviews come into contact, because I think they rarely do. | ||
| No, I want to go. | ||
| Let's go to Twitter for a second, because it is in this show, myself personally, because of my leadership in the anti-CCP movement, you, because you were attracted to come and do this type of work as a teenager because you saw the benefit in doing the work that would ultimately lead to the Chinese people, | ||
| Lao Bajing, earning their own freedom. | ||
| Nobody has higher respect for the workers in China, but it is a slave labor camp. | ||
| And so all this stuff from the Atlantic and all this stuff is that they so miss the point about what's going on in China. | ||
| And it can't be because they're dumb. | ||
| It has to be something else. | ||
| Natalie Werner, your thoughts? | ||
| Well, of course it is. | ||
| And I think you see it whether the issue is the origins of COVID, or in this case, the economic and trade model put forth by the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| They will always run cover. | ||
| for the PRC Because the original sin of the globalist economic model, which these people are the Praetorian Guard for, rests upon the Lao Beijing, the Chinese people, getting paid essentially nothing and being treated like modern-day slaves, right? | ||
| That's why you can never have a real hashing out of the true origins of COVID and blame the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| It's not just that we would demand reparations from them. | ||
| That would be 0.001% of what we deserve from them when you look at the atrocities and crimes that they've committed. | ||
| Information, psychological, lawfare, and otherwise. | ||
| But to that point, one of the key vectors that the Chinese Communist Party has infiltrated, and frankly you're seeing it happen right now at industrial scale, is the legacy media, right? | ||
| You see it in their defense, or rather attacks and criticisms on the tariffs. | ||
| But one of the first stories that I think I ever came on War Room to actually discuss was how a group called the China-United States Exchange Foundation, one of these proxy communist influence groups, was paying to take journalists from all these Western outlets. | ||
| overseas to China in exchange and I quote for favorable coverage and to quote disseminate positive | ||
| The CCP is radioactive. | ||
| When you enter their influence orbit, you're toxic. | ||
| You never get relinquished. | ||
| You never can leave. | ||
| And that's why we need to subpoena the names of the lobbying firms and the people who got involved in these operations, all the way from Hill staffers to think tankers to academics, you name it, politicians, because that's how you undo what is probably the original sin of America's There's so much else going on in addition to this, | ||
| the budget cuts, etc. | ||
| Talk to me about the budget cuts, which I just announced the CIA. | ||
| Ratcliffe took a cut now. | ||
| It's 1,200 people out of the 22,000. | ||
| It's over time. | ||
| They're just not taking meat axes to the deep state. | ||
| You've done some other quick and dirty analysis. | ||
| I also want to announce, and later we'll do it after the break, but if you go to Citizens Free Press, people should know, you know, Cain is one of the smartest guys I've ever met. | ||
| Not just is he a news freak. | ||
| This guy is very, very smart. | ||
| Cain is obsessed with government spending. | ||
| Has been. | ||
| This is how he got involved in this business many years ago. | ||
| This morning when the budget came out, he had the rented green headlines, which he does for like, hey, pay attention. | ||
| This is a big deal. | ||
| They were stunning how he rolled down and how it kind of built. | ||
| I reached out to Kane. | ||
| I said, look, you and I got to talk about this to the posse. | ||
| He goes, yes. | ||
| So Kane is going to be on the war room tomorrow morning. | ||
| I'm going to figure out. | ||
| How we're going to do that. | ||
| So it's very, very important. | ||
| I tell you what, Natalie, you hang on. | ||
| I want to go through. | ||
| You've highlighted some things to me about this budget. | ||
| Also, there's some other nefarious characters that we have to out here in the war room on a Friday afternoon to put on people's radars. | ||
| How's that sound? | ||
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| They are not going to be part of this de-dollarization, but they said it is so active that the Chinese Communist Party, working with other of the BRICS nations, are looking to de-dollarize and come up with some basket of currencies essentially around the Chinese yuan, | ||
| right? | ||
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| Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | ||
| So, okay, Liz Yor is going to join us in a moment, and we have something quite explosive and exclusive. | ||
| To War Room. | ||
| We've just put it up on the site. | ||
| And Grace Morgan pushing it out. | ||
| But it's quite explosive. | ||
| An interview I did with an individual where I was asking the questions. | ||
| I gained the questions asked. | ||
| Liz, you and I are going to break it down for you. | ||
| Natalie. | ||
| Buried leads. | ||
| Your specialty is the buried lead. | ||
| Particularly your specialty is the buried lead in places like the Washington Post or the Langley Bugle, as Harnwell calls it. | ||
| The article in the CIA. | ||
| Your initial thoughts, ma 'am. | ||
| Well, I'll just read the Washington Post. | ||
| Quote, reduce the CIA's workforce by about 1,200 personnel, key part here, over several years and cut thousands more from other parts of the U.S. intelligence community, not specifying exactly where or even, frankly, how many thousands. | ||
| But I think the worst part of this article, Steve, is that it's going to be, quote, accomplished in part through reduced hiring. | ||
| No outright firings are even envisioned. | ||
| The goal of a roughly 1,200-person staff reduction includes several hundred individuals who already have opted for early retirement. | ||
| You're telling me there's not at least one person in the CIA who's not essentially already out the door who is somehow involved in targeting the MAGA movement? | ||
| Frankly, you can go all the way back to the Tea Party movement. | ||
| Anyone who's been part of the populist right, not even just here at home domestically, but I'd extend that. | ||
| That critique all the way out to the ascendant global populist movement. | ||
| Brazil, Hungary, Eastern Europe, you name it. | ||
| I think that's extremely unacceptable. | ||
| Counterpoint, we are seeing movement from President Trump on the CISA vector, everything that... | ||
| How bad of disinformation was to get rid of that and the new funding package. | ||
| But of course, there's always resistance to that. | ||
| And frankly, I don't have a lot of faith in congressional Republicans, given that they couldn't even hold a vote to tank Joe Biden's CISA director, Jen Easterly's salary to zero dollars. | ||
| And so we'll be getting in this with Kane tomorrow, and then obviously every day, you know, first off, you've got to cut the spending. | ||
| The thing's so insanely out of control. | ||
| Number two, you have to cut in the right places, but the deep state has to be choked off. | ||
| 1,200 over years, and really it's just burning off. | ||
| You're not filling the billets as the guys retire. | ||
| Natalie's point, that's just not good enough. | ||
| And, you know, and you're going to see, they're going to... | ||
| On Capitol Hill, they're going to fight President Trump on this. | ||
| So we're in for it, folks. | ||
| So get ready to man up, because next week and the weeks thereafter are going to be very tough. | ||
| We mentioned you talked about something, and at first you thought maybe it wasn't as big a deal. | ||
| I actually think it's a huge deal. | ||
| And this goes back to, we've had two monumental, or actually many, monumental events in the 250th anniversary, which is so rare. | ||
| How many countries are even around for 250 years? | ||
| We are commemorating and celebrating our revolution, which is the basic DNA of the United States. | ||
| We're a revolutionary country. | ||
| We broke off from imperial powers. | ||
| That says everything you want to know about a people. | ||
| And succeeded and then built the greatest country in the history of the earth. | ||
| On St. John's Church, you know, that was not really done, I don't think, appropriately. | ||
| And one of the reasons Governor Youngkin was basically swarmed by these crazy... | ||
| Lefties, progressives that hate America right afterwards in St. John's Church right outside the church. | ||
| There was no senior representation of President Trump's administration at Lexington and Concord. | ||
| One of the most important, in the top five most important events in the history of the country. | ||
| The shot heard around the world, Lexington Common and Concord Bridge. | ||
| That's the beginning of it. | ||
| And one of the reasons is it couldn't be security, and these were all run by these kind of left-wing local organizations. | ||
| Natalie, walk me through what happened today. | ||
| There's a chairman. | ||
| I'm kind of confused about the details. | ||
| I want you to walk me through it. | ||
| But we've got to start clearing out these progressives out of things. | ||
| They've got to be cleared out. | ||
| You've got to clear them all out and then restock it with MAGA. | ||
| What happened in this regard? | ||
| Yeah, cleared out, smoked out, turfed out, all of the above, especially when it comes to the America 250 Commission, which, like you said, is planning America's 250th anniversary birthday celebration. | ||
| So the person who is not just a member of this commission, but believe it or not, the chair... | ||
| There's a gal by the name of Rosie Rios, someone who worked in the Obama administration, and someone who I have put out a thread. | ||
| It's gone mega viral. | ||
| A couple senators are actively drafting a letter, getting it to President Trump's desk to hopefully undesignate her as chair, maybe potentially remove her from the commission in whole. | ||
| But I'll read you her quotes. | ||
| I would have played the videos, but they were delivered in Spanish, and I guess since English is now the official language of America, I won't do that to the warm audience. | ||
| But this is someone who thinks Mexico is, quote, more her country than the United States is. | ||
| She believes Mexicans, quote, are the future of America, hates border walls, and thinks, quote, nothing good can come from Trump. | ||
| She was celebrating how Mexican-born people will overtake U.S.-born citizens demographically all the way back in 2015, insisting that, quote, it's not our geography that defines us. | ||
| Again, I am as much Mexican as I am American. | ||
| We are the same blood. | ||
| California, where I was born and raised, was Mexico. | ||
| People tend to forget that we are in the same land, and that was Mexico. | ||
| She's even attacked President Trump directly, saying that his rhetoric is demonizing and very difficult to hear, advocating for her fellow Mexicans and Mexican-Americans to keep actively opposing him. | ||
| She also said that, quote, Mexican-born people have a pride and effort and instinct to survive, that there is nowhere else in the world and that no one has more passion than the Mexican people, and she hopes that everyone, especially in the United States, recognizes that. | ||
| She also lamented, again attacking Trump, saying that it's a shame there are no leaders in the U.S. that can defend the Mexicans. | ||
| I think I'm going to return to Mexico much more. | ||
| Here I feel at home. | ||
| She even refers to Mexico repeatedly as her country, insisting, quote, my blood is here. | ||
| There's no wall that can separate that. | ||
| Quote, I can't choose between the two countries. | ||
| I'm part of both. | ||
| I was born in California, but California used to be part of Mexico. | ||
| So the blood is the same. | ||
| I don't know about you, Steve. | ||
| I think the person who's chairing America's 250th commission should be able to proudly say, I am an American. | ||
| I love this country. | ||
| It's my own country that I have allegiance to. | ||
| I can't believe that that's something I even have to say, let alone someone who worked under Obama. | ||
| And if you can see the thread on screen, the pictures of her speaking at a La Raza event. | ||
| I know Senator Schmidt and Senator Eric Schmidt of Missouri and Senator Mike Lee of Utah have really been advocating for this. | ||
| So you can call them, make sure they double down on their letters. | ||
| But even call your senators and make sure that we get this very radical, like I said, radical La Rossa, America-hating chick removed from the person who's going to be organizing America's birthday. | ||
| This country deserves a lot better. | ||
| Look, she didn't have her own personal beliefs, but she's chairman of the 250th commemoration of the country's birth. | ||
| Is this insanity? | ||
| That is pure hatred. | ||
| Not just a Trump-American, pure hatred of the country. | ||
| Let's get Bill Blaster. | ||
| Let's get Grace. | ||
| Grace, get in the chat. | ||
| Let's get Bill Blaster. | ||
| Let's get this out to everybody. | ||
| Carpet bomb this. | ||
| She's got to go. | ||
| This is just unacceptable that somebody like this is even around anywhere near the sacred commemorations of our beloved country. | ||
| Natalie, by the way, Natalie, as people know, Natalie is known and known in Beijing as one of the most virulently anti-CCP, pro- Chinese worker, pro-Lao Bai Jing, pro-Chinese people, always standing up for the little guy in China and always calling out how the elites, | ||
| not just in the United States, but the United Kingdom throughout the world, have had elite capture and, you know, as Posobiec says, elite merger with the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Over the last couple of weeks, you've had a bunch of your things get 18, 20, 25 million. | ||
| Are we doing good in that category? | ||
| You haven't put anybody's nose at a joint by your... | ||
| When Natalie's on the anti-CCP role, she'll get on the anti-CCP role. | ||
| I just want to make sure it's all good, everything's good. | ||
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It's my favorite thing to talk about. | |
| People can see the developments on Twitter. | ||
| You can out me, Steve, if you'd like. | ||
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But I would also add real quick on the Rosie Rios vector. | |
| I know President Trump loves Andrew Jackson. | ||
| She also tried to remove him from the $20 bill. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| That's going to sit very well with President Trump. | ||
| Cardinal sin. | ||
| Apparently I've committed a cardinal sin, too. | ||
| Natalie, have a great weekend. | ||
| You're at the White House. | ||
| I hope we don't have to pay health insurance for the interviewer from Channel 4 that you left. | ||
| Steve, we already are, because they don't pay anything to Ukraine, and we're subsidizing the whole Ukraine war effort. | ||
| I also hope you don't get unfollowed by anybody because of your amazing CCP investigations, ma 'am. | ||
| Elon has unfollowed me. | ||
| We'll have to see why. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Hey, curious minds, you know, Daily Mail's asking. | ||
| Where do they go? | ||
| Natalie, where do people that want to follow you, follow you? | ||
| Natalie G. Winters on all social media platforms, including X. Amazing work. | ||
| And folks, we've got to get all over top of the chairman of this 250th. | ||
| This is outrageous. | ||
| Natalie, great work on that one, once again. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| President Trump is going to be livid. | ||
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| As much as he's got on his table, you'd think people would be on top of this thing. | ||
| You wouldn't have to break it, you know, after Lexington and Concord. | ||
| Maybe you know now why there wasn't kind of, you know, reaching out with open arms and getting this thing organized, and to think that a person like that could have anything to do with July 4th of 2026. | ||
| Liz Yor joins me, and Liz, I want to thank you for the following. | ||
| So we have, and Liz is going to stay for a while, but we do have Chip Roy coming up in the next hour, but I'm going to have Liz here for a while, because this is very important. | ||
| We'll talk about the conclave and what's going on. | ||
| The amazing work that the Committee on the Present Danger China has done with this fantastic webinar about everything, kind of laying out everything between the Vatican and the Chinese Communist Party and so much more. | ||
| But I've got to go to you helped facilitate an exclusive interview I was able to do with Archbishop Vigano. | ||
| We have just put that up in War Room, and Grace and Mo are going to put it out everywhere. | ||
| Walk me through some headlines here. | ||
| We asked some very tough and controversial questions, and he answered them, right? | ||
| He answered them, Liz. | ||
| What do you got for us? | ||
| Yeah, he did. | ||
| And there were some really spicy answers there. | ||
| And he called Pope Francis the Pope of the elite. | ||
| And it looks like he is hoping, as many of us are, that the new... | ||
| Pope, whoever he may be, will drive a wedge between the deep state and the deep church. | ||
| But your questions were really very probing, and I really would encourage people this weekend to read what is, you know, very spicy language, but deep theological and moral argument. | ||
| Steve, one of my favorite questions that you had. | ||
| For Archbishop Vigano, it was, what is the greatest threat that the United States is facing today? | ||
| And his answer, I think, was really, you know, it sounded like a little bit war room, a little bit, you know, Jesus and the Sermon on the Mount, but it was, here it is, the most serious threat that looms over the United States of America. | ||
| Is the danger of not learning from what has happened thus far, that citizens do not realize that the danger they escaped by electing Donald Trump instead of Kamala Harris. | ||
| And he goes on to say, it is not enough to fight the most extreme manifestations of woke ideology. | ||
| We need to rebuild, starting from the foundation of family, from the bedrock of morality, We need to restart a social model on a human scale in accordance with God's plan and the law of the gospel. | ||
| And we need to teach our children to fight and die for the rights of God rather than the alleged rights of man. | ||
| Only a nation that recognizes itself under God can hope to prosper. | ||
| Liz, hang on for one second. | ||
| Magnificent. | ||
| Short break. | ||
| Liz Yor, with this exclusive interview with Archbishop Vigano in a moment. | ||
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| Let's take down the CCP. | ||
| Welcome back. | ||
| The Rio Reset, July 6th. | ||
| It's out now. | ||
| You can go to birchgold.com slash Bannon, get the real reset, to get more up to speed and understand what this whole firefight is about, about U.S. currency and about trying to find an alternative to U.S. currency. | ||
| Particularly as we're going to go through now with this massive, the budget, Chip Roy is going to join us next hour to do this, to go through that. | ||
| You're going to want to find out about what alternatives are coming at us. | ||
| From people that are not friendly to the United States of America, particularly the Chinese Communist Party and others. | ||
| The BRICS Nations. | ||
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| We've updated and redone the series to focus on what's happening now. | ||
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| Nigel Farage, and I'll try to get more details tomorrow with both Raheem and Nigel. | ||
| Nigel Farage, sweeping victory in England as reform now gets momentum to really replace the Tory party. | ||
| It's the version of MAGA taking over the Republican Party. | ||
| This is the reform taking over the Tories. | ||
| President Trump reiterating cutting off the Persians from selling any oil to get cash because of this situation with their nuclear facilities. | ||
| Reports out of Syria that Israeli Air Force doing bombing runs up in Syria, supposedly Turkish planes are up in the air. | ||
| There's a lot going on. | ||
| We're going to have an expert about this situation with the Australian elections on Sunday. | ||
| And one of the biggest issues down there is this submarine deal to add American submarines that the Australians would purchase and be part of their fleet. | ||
| We're going to get to all that. | ||
| The geopolitics, interstrictly linked now with the economics of it all. | ||
| Liz, you're going to stay with me in a second. | ||
| There's so much more to go through this interview, plus the secret treaty with the Chinese, how it's going to inform the conclave. | ||
| We're going to talk about everything that's going on there, about the traditionalists, because this is, even if you're not, if you're Catholic, it's central to your life. | ||
| Even if it's not, you're not Catholic, it's going to have a big impact on politics. | ||
| Just face that. | ||
| Liz, what stuns me about Viganò, because we asked very controversial questions on purpose, and all these are not kind of churchy questions. | ||
| This guy's a very big thing. | ||
| People understand he was the ambassador. | ||
| It's called the papal annuncio. | ||
| He's essentially the ambassador from the Vatican to the United States. | ||
| And one of the most respected ones we've had. | ||
| He understands the U.S. He understands geopolitics. | ||
| He's a very, very savvy guy. | ||
| What stuns me about this is kind of what we've been harping on all day about the deep state and the urgency of the moment. | ||
| The urgency of the moment to take on this apparatus of the deep state and start to take it across. | ||
| And John Ratcliffe, as good a guy as you are, 1,200... | ||
| Jobs over a couple of years of people that are getting ready to retire or taking buyouts is not what we're talking about in a massive restructuring of the CIA. | ||
| Viganò warns us about this. | ||
| What you just read, he is warning America. | ||
| Please do not miss the point of what almost happened. | ||
| It would have been over for this country if Kamala Harris had gotten in and the deep state had been empowered instead of President Trump and the greatest come from behind where they tried to assassinate him in the last couple of months. | ||
| Liz, your thoughts? | ||
| You know, Steve, what I love about Viganò, and I think he's calling all of us to be moral street fighters, and he has not let up one bit. | ||
| He has been in the face of the Vatican as they were co-opted by the Chinese, the CCP. | ||
| He has battled the elite. | ||
| On his shoulders, all by himself. | ||
| He's been excommunicated because he's taken these tough stance. | ||
| And, you know, this interview is not just for Americans. | ||
| It is the template. | ||
| For all freedom fighters, for all the MAGAs around the world, to really take what he says, to incorporate your faith, but to really not, you can't sit back. | ||
| At this moment, he understands the global elite better than anybody. | ||
| He knows the secret agenda. | ||
| They're not going to give up, not for one minute. | ||
| They are forging ahead. | ||
| And this is really a call to action. | ||
| The Great Reset, as far as he is concerned. | ||
| Must come from the Church. | ||
| And we have an opportunity, not only in the Catholic Church, to take away the moral voice of the elite. | ||
| That was Pope Francis. | ||
| We have an opportunity to really magnify what we are blessed with with Donald Trump here in America. | ||
| But that was hard work. | ||
| That was, you know, stepping into the fight. | ||
| He also talks about, and I would, you know, really urge people from Ireland and around Europe to read this because he talks about the impact of mass invasion of Islamic immigrants all around Europe and that this is strategic, | ||
| it's intentional, and it is the destruction of our civilization. | ||
| And he wants people to take on their governments and to reclaim their Christian roots He's | ||
| a political animal as well as, you know... | ||
| A theological one as well. | ||
| Liz, hang on. | ||
| You're going to stick around. | ||
| We'll get more in the interview, so much more in the next hour. | ||
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