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May 2, 2025 - Bannon's War Room

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Episode 4457: Positioning Ourselves To End The Ukraine War; Stepping Up To The Moment

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		And Christopher, as you know, is the author of the fabulous foundational text of the war room, one of them, The Lords of Easy Money.
		I've asked Jim Rickards to come back, to come on.
		Jim, there's so much on geopolitics.
		I want to take some time and go through this, because I think we need to help to start to frame this, Hurdling towards the crises of the summer of 2025, which will go down in history.
		A hundred years from now, folks, they're going to talk about this summer of what is going to happen and who's going to win.
		So, Jim, I want to talk.
		You know, we had Waltz.
		The big headline is, you know, MAGA got rid of Waltz yesterday.
		Marco Rubio is now going Kissinger.
		He's Secretary of State, National Security Advisor, at least for a while.
		Front page Financial Times.
		Laura Loomer gets up.
		You know, she gets a hat tip.
		You don't often see the Financial Times writing about Laura Loomer on their page one.
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		It goes to every decision maker in the world.
		It's the reason we break it down virtually every day for the war and posse because you guys are at that.
		You are decision makers.
		You have created yourself into a political force that people pay attention to and they understand.
		You have stroke and you have punch and you can land a punch and you can take a punch, more importantly.
		Rickards, this confusion now, the part of getting something sorted on the kinetic part of the Third World War, which we're in.
	It's not we're going to be in.
	We're in deeper than, you know, in 1939, 1940.
	We're in it now.
	President Trump has made this an actual major element of his second term, is to lay the guns down, at least to start to come into frameworks.
	I think, I just saw the New York Post as we came on, that they're kind of walking away for a while.
	They signed the quote-unquote economic deal, or the rare earths deal, or whatever you want to call it.
	But now they're saying, hey, there hasn't been enough movement.
	These parties are not willing to listen to each other.
	You know, is fairly.
	And so they're going to walk away.
	Get us up to speed.
	Where are we exactly in your mind?
	And where in the hell is this thing going?
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is going to a Russian victory in Ukraine.
		Now, we've got to define victory.
		One thing that strikes me about Putin, Putin has been clear and consistent from before the war in Ukraine as to what his goals are.
		And by the way, this war started in 2008 when George...
		Bush said, we're going to make Ukraine part of NATO.
		It continued in 2014 when the CIA and MI6 staged a coup.
		It was supposed to love democracy.
		Well, we overthrew a duly elected leader, etc.
		Putin took Crimea shortly thereafter.
		Say, what part of annexation do you not understand, you know, NATO and the United States?
		And it kept escalating from there, you know, the role of Victoria Nuland.
		My point is, the U.S. has been working to—the U.S. wanted this war.
		The U.S. has been promoting this war for almost 20 years.
		Well, we got it.
		We got the war.
		So, anyway, Russia comes in.
		Now, you have to understand the Russian way of war.
		I'm sure you do.
		It is slow, methodical, and lethal.
		They have what they call a cauldron.
		They encircle the enemy.
		They'll spend months taking every village around a major logistics hub so that when they go for the kill, basically, you can surrender if you want, but Ukrainians typically don't.
		Some of them do.
		Or you get annihilated.
		That's all there is to it.
		The problem right now, Trump is in exactly the position that LBJ was in, I'll say, early 1965.
		You know, 64 was election year and the Great Society and all that.
		But LBJ inherited a war from Eisenhower and JFK.
		He could have done one of two things.
		He could have wound it up on some basis, walked away, said, hey, good luck.
		Or escalate, which he did.
		We got to the point 500,000 troops, 50,000 casualties, 10 years of war, etc.
		Johnson regretted it later, but that's not what he wanted.
		Trump's in exactly the same position today.
		The question is, is this going to be Biden's war, and then Trump ends it, or ends U.S. involvement?
		I should put it that way.
		But we can get a deal with Putin.
		Or...
		Is it going to be sucked into escalation?
		And the thing is, it sounds like you have to send in the 82nd Airborne.
		I mean, just another weapons deal, another money advance, another extension of time, etc.
		It all just drags out the war, and it will very quickly be Trump's war.
		The guy who's got this right, by the way, is J.D. Vance.
		He understands it.
		I'll give Rubio some credit.
		By the way, if I criticize people, it's never personal.
		It could be good people, but Walsh was a warmonger.
		General Kellogg was doing his thing.
		So the Kellogg-Waltz plan said, we're going to have an unconditional ceasefire along the line of contact.
		That's where the Russian troops are now, line of contact.
		Show me a victorious winning power in the history of the world that agreed to an unconditional ceasefire on the line of contact.
		The loser wants that.
		Other people want it.
		But if you're winning, no, you don't agree to that.
		So Putin wants the four provinces, Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, and Zabuzsa.
		So he wants the four provinces.
		Hold on, hang on, hang on.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Slow down, slow down, slow down, slow down.
		When you say line of contact...
		What do you mean by that?
		You mean actually with the armies or line of contact right now, not the Donbass, not the eastern provinces, not Crimea, not all the stuff they started with.
		They started with that, given the debacle that both Bush and Obama administration pushing this continue to lose and never really did anything except exacerbate the Russians, right?
		So line of contact now, you're saying, but that's a third of Ukraine, correct?
		Line of contact now.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Now, the four provinces, and plus Crimea, have been formally annexed and are part of the Russian Federation.
		So if you ask the Russians, you ask Putin, they're fighting on Russian territory as far as they're concerned.
		So that's what they've done.
		It has not been recognized internationally, but who cares?
		As far as Russia is concerned, those provinces and Crimea are part of Russia.
		The problem is the Russian military, the Russian army, have...
		Captured about two-thirds of that, a little bit more.
		They are pushing towards the Napro River.
		A ribbon or a band of territory that the Russians would say is part of the Russian Federation, but the Ukrainian troops are still there and they have not been dislodged.
		So that's what—so the Kellogg-Waltz plan—Waltz has moved on, but the Kellogg-Waltz plan was to have an unconditional ceasefire on the line of contact, and then you would take it from there.
		And by the way, the U.S. and NATO, they're really good at negotiating with themselves.
		You know, they go to London, they meet with Starmer, they meet with Macron, they meet with, you know, so Mandalayan and— You know, et cetera.
		They negotiate with themselves.
		Who's negotiating with Russia?
		And I understand that Wyckoff has, and that's good.
		And he's, you know, he's fully authorized to represent Trump.
		But that's what it's going to take.
		Now, Russia says we want those four territories.
		We want Ukraine to withdraw.
		We want demilitarization of Ukraine, denazification.
		And when you say that, people go, oh, what are you talking about with Nazis?
		I'm sorry.
		This ideology of the Bandarists.
		This ideology in Ukraine that took root in the 30s and 40s is pro-Nazi.
		They fought on the Nazi side against the Russian army in World War II.
		They're still there.
		They're the power behind the scenes.
		I've spoken to the head of the Marshall U.S. Foundation about that.
		She didn't like my question.
		She admitted it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Hang on a second.
		Hang on a second.
		Just to put this in perspective so people understand, because with these Slavic entities, these things go back hundreds of years.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		Right.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		But they're grounded in a ground truth.
		What happened in Ukraine in the 1930s, because Ukraine's essentially Kansas.
		It's the Kansas of, let's say, Russia or Kansas of part of Europe.
		It is a massive, you know, wheat, grain.
		It's a bread basket.
		In the 1930s...
		The Bolsheviks, led by Stalin, took these intellectuals out because they were doing forced collectivizations up in Russia.
		They needed the grain.
		They went and essentially starved the Ukrainian people.
		I think it was 5 million people starved.
		If you've ever read, Ann Applebaum, who is no fan of the war room, wrote a book.
		I think it's called Red Harvest.
		There's a number of books.
		You read them.
		It's very tough to turn the page.
		They starved to death in a mist of plenty.
		Five million people.
		When you say Nazification, Ukraine was a killing field, was the bloodlands, it was called, in World War II.
		A lot of Eastern Europe, but particularly Ukraine, because you had a lot of Ukrainians that wanted vengeance against the Bolsheviks.
		So when the German army came, you had a lot of people that signed up.
		Some of the worst units in the Wehrmacht, as far as brutality, were Ukrainian elements.
		That's what Putin keeps talking about, denazification.
		Then a ton of people of Ukraine fought for the Russians because a lot of them feel like they're almost ethnic Russians.
		So this thing goes back and it's brutal and it's nasty.
		And so when you get Putin and these guys talking about that and Ukrainians, the Americans, you know, the media kind of comes in and kind of slaps it over like this place is Norway or Sweden.
		And it's all these, you know, nightclubs and all these nice people and LGBTQ flags and, you know, it all be supported.
		It's far deeper than that, is it not, Brother Rickards?
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're exactly right, Stephen.
		Of course, the point is, yeah, everything you said is correct, and that accounts for some of the bitterness and the intransigence of this.
		But communism's gone.
		Stalin's gone.
		Okay, Putin is a nationalist authoritarian leader.
		I get it.
		But he's closely aligned with the Orthodox Church.
		Americans don't understand the role of the Orthodox Church.
		They don't understand Russian history.
		They don't understand Russians in general.
		I go back to the days of Kissinger and Helmut Sonnefeld and James Baker and so forth, and they really knew their stuff.
		George Schultz, you don't see that caliber of talent today.
		I'm just saying, you know, it's not even the leadership.
		I mean, J.D. Vance is a smart guy, but when you look at Fiona Hill, George Kent, the people who testified against Trump during the impeachment, they're not impressive Russian scholars at all, number one.
		Number two, as far as, you know, where we are right now, The other thing Putin wants is neutrality.
		Now, Austria was neutral during most of the Cold War.
		Now, eventually, you know, joined the West and, you know, it's a thriving democratic society today.
		Austria's a great country.
		But they were neutral.
		Vienna was a great spy capital because both sides could drop in.
		That happens a lot.
		That's not the end of the world.
		But Putin's demands are consistent.
		Now, Trump is faced with a decision, number one.
		He can agree to most of what Putin wants, almost all of it, get a little something in return.
		And I just call it a day.
		Jim, hang on one second.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I want to get to the great powers of it all.
		Short commercial break.
		Jim Rickards is with us here in the war room.
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		Rickards, we're in the world now of great power politics, right?
		You've got China, you've got the CCP, you've got Russia, you've got the United States of America.
		This leads us up to the early 1970s where Nixon and Kissinger came up with a strategy to pull the Chinese Communist Party away from the Bolsheviks.
		So that we could try to hammer out and take down the evil empire, solo, with a clear shot, and Reagan eventually did it.
		That was predicated, the reason they had to do it, the country was such a mess geopolitically, given a decision that was made in the White House in 1965.
		That decision was Lyndon Johnson, and guess what?
		the best and the brightest, the people left over from Kennedy's administration, including Mac Bundy, McGeorge Bundy, the former president of Harvard.
		That was the national security advisor.
		Well, go back to the great powers quickly, Steve.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		China, Russia, U.S. are the only ones that can't.
		Now, I'll take you a poker player, but a poker player knows.
		If you're in a three-handed poker game and you don't know who the sucker is, you're the sucker.
		Meaning it's always two against one.
		If you're in the two, great.
		If you're not, you're going to lose.
		Right?
		And that's what Nixon understood.
		He said China, Russia, U.S. So we opened the door to China so we could isolate the Soviet Union at the time.
		And it worked.
		Mao Zedong died.
		Gang of four got arrested.
		Deng Xiaoping modernized.
		The Soviet Union fell.
		And we won the Cold War as a result.
		That was brilliant.
		That was Nixon and Kissinger.
		Now, today, the same analysis applies, except China is the main enemy.
		So what does that mean?
		Either the U.S. and Russia hold hands and work together—you don't have to be treaty allies, but just work together and isolate China—or we're the sucker.
		Because that means Russia and China are working together against us.
		The president hates suckers.
		I agree with him.
		But right now, we're the sucker, unless we can open the door to Russia.
		Now, going back to LBJ, he had this critical moment.
		He was really a domestic politician.
		No one particularly thought of him as a foreign policy expert.
		So you rely on the people around you.
		There's no question about it.
		They had plenty of IQ points and plenty of Harvard degrees.
		That was the easy part.
		McNamara was a logistical, linear programming whiz, and McGeorge Bundy had a big brain and all that.
		They were replaying the Korea playbook.
		They didn't understand how different Vietnam was.
		And Eisenhower said, whatever you do, do not get in a land war in Asia.
		Island hopping, you know, First Marines, yeah, we got to defeat Japan.
		Understood.
		Do not get in a land war in Asia.
		Well, we did.
		And Johnson just followed along and it got worse and worse and worse.
		And that's the point.
		And again, with 50,000 dead and, you know.
		He tore the country apart and kind of destroyed, handicapped Nixon in very important ways.
		That was a national tragedy and a national disaster.
		It did not have to happen.
		And that's my point.
		Trump is at the same point today.
		He can basically accept Putin's demands.
		Now, the first thing I would say to the Trump administration is, look...
		The press is going to bash you no matter what you do.
		So factor out the press.
		Don't make it part of your equation.
		Because if you settle more or less on Putin's terms, which is the way to end the war, they're going to trash you.
		You're a Putin puppet, Putin stew.
		We know all that.
		But if you keep fighting, you're going to say, well, you're not doing enough.
		You need to do more, etc.
		So factor the press out.
		Look at the situation on the ground.
		So obviously Russia's winning.
		They're going to win.
		I read an article the other day that the Russian economy is suffering.
		I said, well, read some World War II history if you want to know about the Russian economy.
		They're more resilient.
	The Germans, the Wehrmacht, killed 5 million Russians.
	Guess what?
	They had 5 million more right behind them.
	And that was not taken into account.
	So that's what we're dealing with.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		So hang on.
		Hang on.
		Hang on.
		I want to be very clear because you're a respected guy and this clip's going to go and people that make...
		Things happen.
		We're going to watch it.
		Are you saying that if you don't want to go down the...
		Johnson made a mistake.
		He decided to escalate and send 500,000 combat troops, right?
		Escalate.
		And we didn't get out.
		Yesterday was the 50th anniversary.
		Yes, sir.
		Two days ago.
		50th anniversary of our retreat and surrender from South Vietnam.
		With 58,000 combat casualties.
		That wouldn't happen.
		When he made that decision in 65, I think there was under 1,000 dead or something.
		It was nothing.
		It was that acceleration that made it.
		And he made a mistake, and he should have thought it through and just gotten out.
		What are you saying right now, President Trump, if Trump's in the exact same spot, what are you specifically saying Trump should do?
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		Get out.
		We know what Putin's terms are.
		Basically agree to them.
		That's not surrender.
		That's just common sense.
		If Johnson had got out of Vietnam in 1965, we would have ended up in the same place, which is communist control of Vietnam, without the casualty, the damages, etc.
		Trump's going down the road.
		And the way they lead you down this road is a little...
		Bit at a time, little baby steps.
		By the way, this minerals deal that they signed the other day, I looked at a map.
		It's really about liquid nitrogen.
		Sorry, it's about shale drilling and oil and gas.
		I looked at a map of where the fields are.
		They're in Russian territory.
		So, okay, we just did a deal with Ukraine saying they're giving us the shale oil.
		And I looked at the map.
		It's like, oh, well, Russia controls all that.
		You think they're giving it back?
		No.
		So this is all for show.
		You know, get out now while there's still an opportunity to do so.
		By the way, just to follow up, Steve, once we do that, we can work with Russia.
		There's a lot else going on, you know, with the money and the frozen assets, et cetera, and Russia's need to export, et cetera.
		Russia is critical, not just to China, but to Iran.
		Anybody want a war in Iran?
		We're heading for one.
		With Russia's help, Russia and the United States together.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's one of the reasons, Waltz was fired because he was, one of the reasons he was fired was because he was too much, too adamant about this bombing and military intervention into Persia.
		So you're recommending President Trump just right now saying, hey, I gave you guys a shot and nothing happened and we're out?
		Is that no more military aid, no more financial aid, just walk away?
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we are $200 billion down the drain.
		By the way, Americans are being killed.
		You don't hear about it because they're covert operators and intelligence collectors, same with the French, etc.
		But yeah, $200 billion, probably more, down the drain.
		Probably, estimates vary, but over 700,000 Ukrainian dead, 100,000 or more Russian dead.
		And Russia's not giving up.
		So again, you can get out now, and Russia's going to take about a third of the country.
		Or you can keep fighting, and Russia's going to take a third of the country.
		So, same result.
		Meanwhile, by basically working with Russia on this, you can have Russia's aid in Iran, where it is far more important, because that gets closer to nuclear war.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		The right approach, Ron.
		Jim, where do people go to get strategic intelligence?
		And talk about the book you throw in, because the money GPT is a very scary read, sir.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Steve.
		We have our own landing page.
		It's RickardsWarRoom.com.
		RickardsWarRoom.com.
		You go there.
		You can subscribe to Strategic Intelligence.
		We have my book, MoneyGPT.
		But we have a new video, Steve.
		And basically, it looks at what Scott Besson said.
		You know, Scott Besson early on said, I want to monetize the asset side.
		Everyone's concerned about debt and deficits, as they should be.
		That's legitimate.
		But let's not overlook the assets and say, well, what, are you going to sell the Grand Canyon?
		No, we're not.
		But basically, we, you know...
		Mineral whites, oil, natural gas, strategic metals, gold, silver, intellectual property, etc.
		It's a brilliant move by Steve Besson.
		We go into it.
		We do a deep dive on that.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		This is in Strategic Intelligence this month.
		You do a deep dive on Besson's plan for monetization of the asset side of the balance sheet.
		You do that in this month's Strategic Intelligence?
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		For the May issue, we talk about that.
		We also look at...
		Steve Moran's Mar-a-Lago record.
		We're right on the subject, but the video explains it all.
		It's RickardsWarRoom.com.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, let's everybody get over there.
		Steve Moran, who's the head of the Council of Economic Advisors, he's a major player that never gets mentioned.
		His Mar-a-Lago plan is one of the most foundational documents economically of Trump's second term.
		And Scott Besson has been working through that issue about the monetization of the...
		Asset side of the balance sheet to try to somehow restructure our debt.
		Brother Rickards, social media, where do people go?
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		On Twitter, it's at Real Jim Rickards.
james rickards ▲ ● ▼		At Real Jim Rickards.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Love you, brother.
		Fantastic.
		Jim Rickards.
		Geopolitics, capital markets.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We're going to take a short commercial break here in a moment.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely incredible.
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		Something big going on down there.
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unidentified		War Room.
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Van.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We're going to get, so, remember, this is part of the crises.
		This is the part of the...
		Kinetic part of the Third World War.
		Remember the three kind of boom, boom, boom.
		The three verticals.
		America First, National Security, which is stopping the wars.
		The deportations.
		A judge yesterday said President Trump can't use the Alien Enemies Act of 1798.
		Can't use it.
		Some federal judge.
		And a Trump appointee.
		This is going to...
		Can we get this clock rolling?
unidentified		Thanks.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		And now you've got the budget out.
		My phone's already getting blown up.
		A lot of people are not happy with some of the stuff getting funded and not funded.
		There's a lot of details.
		We're going to go through that and come out start this afternoon and then tomorrow to go through it in detail about how we get the financial and other aspects tied together.
		Of those three converging crises, the one that's not getting enough attention right now And I'm not sure I'm getting enough attention over with folks that ought to know better,
		is don't assume the administrative state and the deep state's going away.
		They're not.
		Even at these agencies where you have landing teams or you have some of our 4,000 or 5,000 people in there, they have very small representation or MAGA.
		Involvement, given the career bureaucrats and given the career administrative state folks, what you have to do is go in with a jackhammer every day and be relentless, and people have to have their back.
		This show is dedicated to making sure we highlight those stories, and we have the backs of those.
		That's why Ed Martin, this Ed Martin situation, is so important.
		He may be outside of the top two or three people at Maine Justice and...
		Whoever ends up heading, whether it's Jay Clayton or whatever, whoever ends up heading Southern District of New York, one of the most important people in the country.
		And given the purview of his basic involvement in the Capitol and other things, because you saw what happened on J6, he may be one of the most important of all.
		And this gets back to one of the central problems.
		And you're going to see it come up with the budget.
		All this thing about when the media says the Republican Party is totally MAGA, the House and Senate totally MAGA, that's just they missed the point as they missed the point in everything.
		That's not true.
		Most of these people, most of them, the elected officials in the House and Senate, are just waiting MAGA and Trump out.
		They fear you.
		Of course they fear you.
		They fear your retribution at the ballot box and in primaries, of course.
		But they've come up to a system and they're still rhinos.
		And the Republican Party is still neoliberal, neocon, globalist.
		It's not economic populism.
		It's not economic nationalism.
		They're not nationalists.
		They'll hum a few bars to get you off their back.
		And they'll run for cover immediately if you highlight it.
		And the Ed Martin thing shows perfectly.
		Today, when President Trump presents this budget, you have these structural issues.
		This is the discretionary.
		This budget, so it says, like, Trump's $1.5 trillion budget.
		This does not have any of the entitlements in it.
		It really just has the big entitlements are Social Security, Medicare, and even Medicaid, although you could argue that's maybe not.
		This has nothing to do with Doge.
		It just doesn't.
		The programmatic part of this...
		Yes, the Doge go in on USAID, but those things have been fought forever, and these are all being taken apart in the appropriation process, which is a legal process.
		I still don't see any, and we need it, I don't see any numbers in here at all of the fraud, the waste.
		And no offense, this show is one that forced them.
		You've got to cross the Potomac.
		Why?
		If you want to get serious about that, you've got to go to a place called the Pentagon.
		And you've got to go there.
		And I'm not saying I've heard crickets from the Pentagon on that part, but all we've heard is crickets from the Pentagon.
		And so in the converging crises we're coming up, this one in the middle of the pivot and the reorganization of the post-war international rules-based order on the economic side and the dollar side, given that Rio's going to happen in July,
		layered on top of it how we actually finance this, what we are financing and how we finance it.
		What are we actually going to do as a government?
		And what are you as a taxpayer prepared to finance?
		And missing in all this, there ain't one penny in here of fraud.
		We need it.
		I knew the trillion dollars would never happen, but we thought it was going to be something.
		We need every penny we can find.
		And we need people, if they defrauded and they took Social Security money, or if they took food stamps.
		Or if they took Medicaid, anything they took, that's fraud.
		It's got to be turned over to main justice.
		It's got to be turned over to main justice now.
		So these converging crises, and you figure, how did we get in a situation that we have a trillion dollars, a trillion and a half to two trillion dollars of discretionary spending that literally we can't afford?
		Because we've only taken $4.5 to $5 trillion of revenues, all sources.
		And yes, maybe tariffs are going to kick it up.
		Looks like it's going to kick it up.
		Maybe kick up $100 billion.
	$200 billion, which would be amazing, but that's not going to cover the gap.
	That's not going to cover the gap.
	How did we get here?
	It was...
	The Republicans were controlled opposition.
	Fox News was controlled opposition.
	The Wall Street Journal was controlled opposition.
	Controlled opposition.
	Did Jim Brooker just not take us back to this debacle in Ukraine?
	In 2008, bushing these guys.
	They're one of those guys driving, with a deep state, driving to get Ukraine into the EU and into NATO.
	Picked up by Victoria Nuland and these people that had always been in the State Department, who essentially did the color revolution in 2014 that Rahim Kassam and Natalie Winters have so greatly documented.
	It started with Republicans.
	This is the sea change of President Trump.
	And this is why President Trump is acting with an urgency that we need everybody to act on.
	The guy's, what, 78 years old?
	Follow the true soldier.
	The guy's 18 or 20 hours a day every day of the week.
	And these are not small things.
	When you're doing the speech like last night at Alabama in front of a hunt town, tens of thousands of people, hundreds of thousands of people and live to millions, and you're in the Oval Office, you're doing a three-hour cabinet meeting and taking questions from the press,
	you're always on.
	I do a speech at Hillsdale, hell, I'm wiped out.
	Trump's doing four or five of these a day, things like that a day.
	Every day.
	Not he shows up and does it one day.
	Every day.
	The most important part, I believe, of the first hundred days is you're seeing Trump in the same Trump every day.
	The humor.
	The knowledge.
	The connection.
	Knowing every issue, go back in time.
	Look, one of the parts of disintermediating the mainstream media and just bringing them into the oval, all those bilats, they have briefing papers and the complicated issues you're talking about.
	Trump then opens it up to the press, and he's taking all questions.
	Look at the level.
	Just go back over a week and look at the different questions and the technical nature of the gotcha questions.
	Trump's just off the top of his head.
	Who knows that volume of information?
	He doesn't have some guy in his ear briefing him in his ear.
	It's Trump.
	He's read about it.
	He's absorbed it.
	Here's his take.
	In his sense of urgency, it's how rapid, how deep, and the scale of what he has accomplished in the first 100 days.
	And now with the second 100 days, we'll be even more historic.
	And this is why.
	It's the convergence of all this at one time.
	The border situation virtually tied up the U.S. government.
	Remember, go back in time with those of you who at least followed me at Breitbart and Breitbart Radio and Breitbart News Radio and Breitbart, Texas, and all these people you saw over the years.
	I'm talking about immigration and immigration and immigration all the time and the fights in the House and the Michelle Bachmann and Steve King going back to 2013, right?
	Going back to the Tea Party, look at all this.
	Trump sealed the board in 60 days.
	Eric Bolling brought up one of the most important points that even I had skipped over.
	The Langford bill had this whole...
	Remember the triggering thing was that you're going to have essentially 2 million more illegal aliens come in the country every year before things kind of get triggered.
	Maybe not say every year, but 2 million come in, 2 million more, 2 million.
	If you do, if you take the $170 billion of the Senate bill to take the mass deportations and you say, hey, there's 10 million, so that's 17 billion, right, per million, that's another $34 billion.
	Just rough math.
	He stopped that in 60 days, and now the left does not even talk about it.
	They don't want to talk about it.
	Because it's so monumental.
	On day one, he and Miller went through and got rid of all the 40 executive orders of Biden.
	He put in his executive orders.
	Then he told Border Patrol, I want to enforce this.
	Then he sent some army units down there.
	Voila.
	It's closed.
	It's sealed.
	And the folks down there know, I don't want to come north because Trump's going to put me under arrest.
	I'm not coming.
	The New York Times admitted on his tariffs, on the tariff situation in Mexico, the very first round that people don't even talk about now.
	The New York Times reported fentanyl has dropped, I think, about 50%.
	We have to have his back now in these big fights, particularly the fights over the deep state, because that's one...
	People don't want to do.
	They don't.
	It's ugly.
	It's tough.
	It's unpleasant.
	Of course it is.
	They're dug in.
	I'll be brutally frank.
	I'm not feeling it.
	Fenton's right.
	And for the folks, and we love people in there, but we can't stop.
	We have a higher duty than friendship and camaraderie.
	And higher than to President Trump, we have a duty to the nation to get this done now.
	We, this audience, you, me, all of us, we have a high moral responsibility to this republic, to everybody that came before us, and everybody that's going to come after us,
	right here, in this time and place.
unidentified		This is, we have to take it on.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We cannot and will not kick this can down the road.
		The deep state has to go.
		When I say has to go, it has to be turfed out of where they are in the United States government today, and they have to be the ones that have broken the law, and most of them have broken numerous laws, have to be investigated and prosecuted and then incarcerated.
		There's no other way around this.
		It'd be so easy to say, well, we've got other things that we're going to do.
		No, this is a cancer.
		It's a cancer that's still metastasizing.
		And there are people who are prepared to cut it out.
		And cut it out, we shall.
		Cut it out, we shall.
		Remember, the exercise is all enemies, foreign and domestic.
		Short break.
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I only got to about a third or under a third of what I wanted to get to this morning.
		So this afternoon, we got more, 5 to 7, and then tomorrow morning, also live, 10 a.m. in the morning to noon.
		And these are going to be days of grinding.
		Because the second hundred days is going to be far tougher, far tougher than the first.
		And the reason is, the first was driving the action to executive orders, executive actions.
		You know, momentum.
		President Trump talked about it last night at the University of Alabama.
		Magnificent graduation speech.
		Keep the momentum.
		Now you're coming up with the peace negotiations, with the Russians and others.
		With the other aspects of the kinetic part, with the economics of trade, with the Congress, with the House, with all of it, other participants are here.
		And of course now in the courts, two delays to deny this massive constitutional crisis that we're hurtling to.
		And I was saying, keep in your back pocket.
		We did not bring this up last week.
		It's just an exercise.
		This suspending the writ of habeas corporates.
		Just take your number two pencil, put that in your black notebook.
		And we'll refer to that later, because that's all coming.
		So these second hundred days, folks, and this is why this audience is so important.
		You are essentially political warfare combat veterans, okay?
		And now we don't need sunshine patriots here.
		It's going to get tough.
		It's going to get very tough, very gnarly.
		So get ready.
		We know you're ready for it, so get ready, because we're going to be grinding on this thing.
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	Back to bowling.
	Bowling and I will do a handoff as we always do.
	Or try to always do.
	Five to seven.
	Got so much to get into that show and then tomorrow morning.
	And then I'll be up online with Grace and Mo and others up on Getter in the interim.
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trevor comstock ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, thanks again, Steve.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Trevor, one more time.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, brother.
		Appreciate you.
		Appreciate the company.
		Make America healthy again.
		By the way, War Room Posse wasn't buying that on 5G on the health side, I don't think.
		I think we got to get Bobby Kennedy into that.
		Get Bobby on here and talk about it.
		But great, great report from the FCC commissioner.
		This is the quality people President Trump have in young people.
		Smart and tough.
		That's what you need.
		Mike Lindell, big day yesterday.
		Fantastic job at the White House, sir.
		What do you got for us?
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Mike Lindell, love you, brother.
		See you this afternoon.
		Great job at the White House yesterday.
		Very moving prayer service in the Rose Garden.
		Okay, Charlie Kirk's up next.

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