May 3, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| He clearly has an agenda and he wants everybody to conform to what he believes and that often would mean telling everybody as loudly as they can how wonderful Donald Trump is and how great all of his policies are. | ||
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NPR and PBS say they're going to fight back. | |
| Do they have the wherewithal? | ||
| Well, first of all, NPR, as a news organization, and PBS also has news programs, they are not for Donald Trump. | ||
| They are not against Donald Trump. | ||
| They are news organizations that report independently, like so many news institutions do in the United States, many of which have been attacked by the president for saying things that he does not agree with, in the same way that my close friend Chris Krebs, | ||
| who you mentioned, who is an American hero, has also been punished for Expressing facts that also the president doesn't agree with. | ||
| NPR, PBS, and the organization that actually funds them, the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, are fighting back hard against this order for good reason because the president doesn't actually have the authority to defund. | ||
| Those entities. | ||
| Congress does. | ||
| They are not an executive branch agency over which he has jurisdiction. | ||
| So they are rightly saying that this will not stand. | ||
| He does not have those rights and they're going to fight for it. | ||
| Fight for themselves and fight for their rights. | ||
| This morning I want to highlight several FBI emails that I'm making public this very day. | ||
| These emails show Biden-FBI agents planning and celebrating the indictment of Trump advisor Peter Navarro in 2022. | ||
| Upon receiving news of Navarro's impending indictment, former anti-Trump FBI official Timothy Thiebaud replied, Wow! | ||
| Great! | ||
| End of quote. | ||
| Yet, When a criminal referral was issued for Nellie Orr, the FBI and DOJ chose not to press charges against her. | ||
| As many of you know, Orr was a fusion GPS contractor involved in the fraudulent crossfire hurricane investigation against Trump. | ||
| And Orr's husband was an FBI agent who also worked against Trump. | ||
| Orr was accused of lying. | ||
| To Congress. | ||
| In the last several months, I've also released FBI emails about Genesis of Arctic Frost. | ||
| Arctic Frost was the FBI case against Trump that became one of Jack Smith's cases. | ||
| Through records that I've already made public, the investigation's political origins are now firmly established. | ||
| Anti-Trump Agent Tebow and his merry band of partisans started the case. | ||
| Many of the FBI agents on Article Frost were also involved in the Navarro case, like Special Agent Walter Gia Gardina. | ||
| My Democratic colleagues have been warning us about, quote-unquote, weaponization of the FBI. | ||
| And the D.C. U.S. Attorney's Office under Trump. | ||
| They've told us repeatedly of the dangers of law enforcement being used against political enemies. | ||
| Now, believe me, we Republicans know because Democrats are reading us pages from the Biden playbook. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| You're just not going to get a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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Mega Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance. | ||
| you | ||
| It's Friday, the 2nd of May in the year of our Lord, 2025. | ||
| Momentarily, Chip Roy is going to step out of CRA. | ||
| The Center for Renewing America. | ||
| Remember, Jeff Clark, Mark Paoletta, the great Russ Vogt, so many others have gone into the administration, OMB and other places to assist. | ||
| They're actually having their conference. | ||
| I will speak at their conference tomorrow morning before the war room. | ||
| We'll do the show in its entirety, but before the war room. | ||
| Chip Roy is over there right now. | ||
| I think Chip addressed the group today. | ||
| Dave Walsh, who was with us, his co-host yesterday morning, has been over there all day. | ||
| The conference is obviously terrific. | ||
| And Chip is going to step out because we've reached out to him about this budget and to take kind of a first shot at things. | ||
| We've been talking a little bit about it all throughout the day. | ||
| Liz Yor is with me also. | ||
| We're going to go back to Liz momentarily about this Vigano, Archbishop Vigano. | ||
| It's an exclusive interview. | ||
| Liz and I talked extensively about, hey, if we're going to get a shot to do an exclusive here and we want to make something that people pay attention to, what types of questions should we ask? | ||
| And Liz is my mentor in many different areas regarding the church, really helped craft these questions that were quite provocative. | ||
| And he answered them. | ||
| And he answered them in a depth and an intelligence that will make people sit up and take notice. | ||
| Remember, Archbishop Vigano being the papal nuncia or the ambassador from the Vatican to the United States gets to see how the system works. | ||
| He refers to Pope Francis as the ventriloquist for Davos. | ||
| He has been on Davos before a lot of people even knew what it meant, the World Economic Forum. | ||
| He has been one of the fire breathers to point out. | ||
| What Davos means and what Davos means and what Davos man is and what the Davos man's control, what they want in the Klaus Schwab's of the world. | ||
| He was one of the first to go after the Great Reset and to really bring it to public attention and begin this Great Awakening. | ||
| There's two ways to go after the deep state. | ||
| A couple of ways, but a couple of primary ways. | ||
| Number one, you have to defund it. | ||
| That's the issue we've been talking about today with this budget. | ||
| Does it defund it? | ||
| And I've had people go through the World Bank side and the IMF side. | ||
| There's just too much here we're funding that can't be funded from the deep state. | ||
| This is a separate topic from can we afford to fund certain of these things. | ||
| Programmatically, can we afford to do this is a question that's being answered partly in this budget to basically get rid of programs. | ||
| Also in this budget, there's a significant increase to the defense budget. | ||
| It's now really going to be officially over a trillion dollars. | ||
| And my question on the defense budget, and it's not being answered, is this defense budget line up with the new hemispheric defense as laid out by President Trump, which is essentially a naval strategy. | ||
| Have we really thought through this aspect of, you know... | ||
| Getting out of the wars on the Eurasian landmass and having a military that's structured to fight those wars. | ||
| Kind of last century's wars that have rolled into this century and are burying us alive. | ||
| By the way, just when he's ready, we'll take him. | ||
| Yeah, they're setting up Chip right now. | ||
| We're just going to grab him as soon as we can get him. | ||
| Okay, here's Chip Roy. | ||
| Congressman Roy, thank you so much, particularly stepping out of CRA, which, as you know, our favorite think tank and action group. | ||
| This budget, I'm kind of confused. | ||
| I'm confused because it's a good first cut. | ||
| It clearly doesn't have the cuts we were hoping for. | ||
| But more importantly, I'm confused in that it looks like it's a dramatic increase to defense spending, yet the defense, you know, the cardinals in the defense, particularly Wicker of Mississippi and the Senate and others in the House, are coming after MAGA and coming after people like you, | ||
| like you're trying to slash the defense budget in half. | ||
| Just step back for a second and make sure, let's get the confusion out of here. | ||
| What in the hell's going on? | ||
| Yeah, thanks, Steve. | ||
| Hope to see you here tonight. | ||
| We're here, obviously, supporting a great organization. | ||
| But most importantly, an organization that was started by Russ Vogt, who is obviously the head of the Office of Management and Budget for President Trump. | ||
| And he has set out today a very strong budget. | ||
| Now, it's very complicated. | ||
| Let me see if I can break it down really quickly. | ||
| Number one, what are the principles involved? | ||
| You and I, I think, both agree. | ||
| The defense establishment, right? | ||
| The defense bureaucracy needs to be cut significantly, right? | ||
| We need to stop, you know, building our defense based on whatever K Street says. | ||
| So what we're trying to do now is do two things. | ||
| Fix that and simultaneously stop allowing Democrats and squishes and swamp creatures to drive up non-defense using defense as leverage. | ||
| So what we did this time, and I think it was pretty creative and smart, and I was working with Russ on this from the beginning. | ||
| Was that we said, look, we will put some money into mandatory, into the reconciliation budget, in the debate, right? | ||
| In the fight. | ||
| So we've got $150 billion sitting there, depending on if we can get that done. | ||
| But that money will be used and freed up for President Trump and Pete Hegseth and them to do it without all the swamp creatures getting their hooks into it. | ||
| They can go modernize the military. | ||
| They can do drones. | ||
| They can do missiles. | ||
| You know, Golden Dome, whatever the president believes is important to actually defend our country, peace through strength, not endless wars, not whatever K Street want. | ||
| But importantly, in doing that, our part of the bargain was we would only think about doing that, and it hasn't done yet, if they would send up a budget that was responsible. | ||
| And what is that? | ||
| Flat defense spending. | ||
| Hold it flat. | ||
| Go find ways to, you know, use whatever you need for troops. | ||
| And then number two, Cut non-defense. | ||
| So Russ set up a budget that cuts that non-defense budget by 20%, which takes it back to pre-COVID 2017 levels, slashes the woke and weaponized bureaucracy significantly. | ||
| Now, we got to go through all that. | ||
| We got to deliver. | ||
| But that's the budget that he set up. | ||
| That is an important step to reset this town and to, frankly, realign all the power structures. | ||
| That's why Mitch McConnell hates it. | ||
| That's why Wicker hates it. | ||
| To his credit. | ||
| Lindsey Graham has applauded it because we've worked with Lindsey from the beginning as the Budget Committee Chairman. | ||
| Now, look, he's a hawk. | ||
| I disagree with Lindsey a lot. | ||
| He likes a lot more war than I do. | ||
| But Lindsey understands something here, that we're trying to change the paradigm, change the town. | ||
| Russ is doing it. | ||
| The president gets it. | ||
| Lindsey gets it. | ||
| A lot of us in the Freedom Caucus and conservatives get it. | ||
| I don't want to spend more money on defense without getting actual... | ||
| You know, assets and modernized military so we can stand strong and peace through strength. | ||
| That's what this is all about. | ||
| Beat the war hawks and the swamp creatures. | ||
| So let me ask you, when you say flat, you take the, is that the $858 billion from the last defense authorization? | ||
| You take that as a baseline and you hold that flat? | ||
| Yeah, you take the number I think is 870-something is the total number, but you take that defense number and you keep that flat in this budget. | ||
| The non-defense get cut by $163 billion, which is 20%. | ||
| That's a lot. | ||
| And that's good. | ||
| We'd be cutting a lot of stupid crud. | ||
| And when you do that, then simultaneously, while we're doing reconciliation, we put $150 billion, probably. | ||
| It's $100 to $150. | ||
| We set that aside without letting all of the lobbyists and all of the appropriators get their hooks into it. | ||
| We say, all right, Pete. | ||
| All right, Mr. President. | ||
| Go do what you need to do to make sure our military is not woke, to make sure the battleships are battleships, the carriers are carriers, the missiles are missiles, and that we can be strong against China in the future. | ||
| reconciliation being a one-time good, $150 billion, one-time flatline on the $870,000, and that'll either increase or decrease going forward, but that's the baseline for the, that's how you get over the trillion, but it's the $150,000 is only | ||
| one time. | ||
| How, so. | ||
| So, for the audience, how can Wicker... | ||
| Wicker is like you and Vogt have pillaged him and pillaged the defense like we're defenseless now. | ||
| But what is the logic? | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| What is their defense? | ||
| What are they saying that you guys are doing? | ||
| Well, two things. | ||
| They prefer it to be on autopilot, right? | ||
| They want to have the baseline and the discretionary budget just be sitting there with the money rolling into the future rather than having to earn it. | ||
| And we've kind of set it up so you have to earn it. | ||
| Number two, they want to be able to control the money, right? | ||
| They want to go sit down with all their lobbyist buddies and all of the contractors who have been controlling our defense world for the last quarter century in law. | ||
| I think it was Eisenhower that talked about the defense industrial complex. | ||
| The fact is, all of those folks are the ones that have been deciding how this works. | ||
| And what do we have now? | ||
| A military that is not modern. | ||
| It's not up to speed. | ||
| We're getting outpaced down into South Pacific. | ||
| We're woke. | ||
| We've got a Navy that is aging. | ||
| We don't have missiles that are up-to-date modern. | ||
| We don't have a Golden Dome, Iron Dome equivalent that Israel has. | ||
| We don't have the drone technology we need. | ||
| So we need to do that while cutting the waste at the Pentagon. | ||
| Pete says he's going to cut the waste. | ||
| Great. | ||
| We'll hold the budget flat. | ||
| You go cut waste. | ||
| Take that out. | ||
| Use it for troop pay, move it to assets, and we're gonna go put a pot of money over here that we're giving you to go modernize the military. | ||
| And if they do that, and we're moving along, then in two years we can revisit it. | ||
| But right now we need to hold it down flat. | ||
| That's why Wicker's mad. | ||
| That's why McConnell's mad. | ||
| They want their sandbox. | ||
| They want all their lobby buddy money to be able to sit down and they can bring home the bacon for the helicopters and the jets and their districts and all the stuff they always do. | ||
| To enrich their local folks at the expense of our military being as strong as it needs to be. | ||
| If you go back, let's just go back the last 10 years. | ||
| I mean, so for the MAGA base to get their hands around this and also to have some sort of, not assurance, but at least comfort that there's some fiduciaries that are looking at this. | ||
| If you go back, and let's just go back 10 years, and you just do an average, and, you know, we've spent, you know, Excluding the operational things that were spent for Afghanistan, because that was a side pocket. | ||
| If you just look at running the building and the material commands and all that, you spend, I don't know, five, six, seven trillion dollars over the last decade, accumulative. | ||
| And yet we're here, and there's a consensus from the side that wants to spend more money and from the side of us that don't want to spend more money and want bigger cuts that... | ||
| We have the military's age, the equipment's age, is not kept up. | ||
| A lot of the systems are wrong. | ||
| There's a mismatch between actual capabilities and strategy, and particularly if you look at this hemispheric defense from Panama to Greenland, more of a naval strategy, the Central Pacific, the Three Island Chain, all of that, getting away from more as President Trump negotiates with the Russians, | ||
| Ukraine, the Middle East, Persia. | ||
| Putting the guns down. | ||
| How do people then get assurance and say, hey guys, you've spent six or seven trillion dollars over the last decade and we're here now in May of 2025 and you're telling me the reason we've got to spend now a trillion dollars a year is that the systems are old, | ||
| the systems are mismatched. | ||
| How has anybody... | ||
| There's no authority that can step forward and say, look, a group of wise men and say, hey, this really makes sense, etc., because essentially everybody's laws have been shredded under credibility because it just looks like almost a money laundering operation. | ||
| Am I wrong in that, that the American people should be asking about this, sir? | ||
| Steve, you're 100% right. | ||
| The American people should be asking about that. | ||
| They should be frustrated. | ||
| The reason I've voted against virtually every spending bill since I've been in Congress for the last six years is for this very reason, the reason I've been trying to highlight back in the McCarthy fight, right? | ||
| When we forced the question, we got conservative Freedom Caucus members onto the Appropriations Committee. | ||
| We had Eli Crane, our good friend who I know is a friend to you. | ||
| He came in and offered an amendment, right, 18 months ago in the fall of 23. To cut that USAID funding that's pissing away taxpayer money for ridiculous international spending. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| 102 Republicans voted for it, but 114 Republicans voted against it. | ||
| That's what we're up against. | ||
| So now you see the same thing happening at the Pentagon. | ||
| I am counting on this administration, with Russ voted OMB, with Pete Hexeth and what they're trying to do over at the Pentagon. | ||
| To go find savings. | ||
| They've told us that. | ||
| And we're going to have to make sure we follow up and ensure those savings are there. | ||
| And then we've got to deliver. | ||
| We have not delivered. | ||
| Between endless wars, pissing away money, trying to build soccer fields in Iraq, and continuing all the spending that we did in the Middle East, and then the bloated bureaucracy in the Pentagon, the civilian waste, the bloated programs, the contracts that are to get into the fat pockets of people in their home districts. | ||
| The K Street lobby, we have pissed away resources, and now our defense is not where it needs to be. | ||
| The time has come to change that, and that's what Russ and I and some others are trying to do, and I applaud the President and Russ for trying to change the paradigm. | ||
| That's why we're doing it this way. | ||
| So how are we going to avoid... | ||
| I know you've got to get back into the last question. | ||
| How are we going to avoid... | ||
| Because here's what's going to happen, audience. | ||
| In the next couple of weeks, the actual individuals that are trying to be patriots stand up and say, hey, look, we're four strong national defense. | ||
| We're all hawks in this regard. | ||
| We don't want to be bombing everywhere. | ||
| We don't want to be interventionists. | ||
| We want a strong military. | ||
| They're going to turn you guys into the worst humans on Earth. | ||
| That you're essentially trying to leave America defenseless and naked in a hostile world, right? | ||
| That's what the people who are actually destroying the military are going to turn on the people trying to save it, because it's all going to get down to money. | ||
| And they say, no, no, no, you need to spend all this money. | ||
| Anybody that's looking to actually reasonably cut defense spending or just line it up with what our real strategy is, is someone that's actually prepared to make sure the countries are going to... | ||
| Well, we're going to keep trying to message it to the American people. | ||
| We're going to stand behind the president's budget that Russ put out on behalf of the president. | ||
| I would also note that a significant number of the fiscal conservatives are also veterans. | ||
| Guys like Scott Perry, former chairman of the Freedom Caucus. | ||
| He's a former general. | ||
| Andy Harris, he's a veteran. | ||
| Eli Crane is a former Navy SEAL sniper. | ||
| Andrew Clyde is a supply, you know, he was in supply in the Army. | ||
| So we've got a lot of veterans among the fiscal conservatives that when we were fighting on the McCarthy fight, we were trying to get these guys onto the appropriations committees and on the committees that would matter. | ||
| We're having the conversations that we need to have. | ||
| For all of the folks out there watching this, you're going to have to be watching it like hawks, making sure we all deliver. | ||
| But this balance of what we're doing in reconciliation and in the discretionary budget, it all has to come together. | ||
| What I'm telling the administration is... | ||
| I'm not giving you a sandbox to go play in a mandatory while you jack up the discretionary spending. | ||
| And if they try to do that, we'll be going to war with them on that. | ||
| Look, I love the administration and Russ is a great friend. | ||
| We're all working together on this. | ||
| But if the Hawks try to get this derailed so they can get all the money they want with all of the goodies they want rather than doing what we need to do to defend America and make it lean and mean, then we're going to be fighting over it. | ||
| Chip, social media, you're putting up great stuff all the time. | ||
| Congressman, where do people go? | ||
| Chip Roy, T-X, T-H-I-P-R-O-Y-T-X. | ||
| That's my personal X or Twitter account and then Rep Chip Roy. | ||
| It's my official account, and then roy.house.gov is my website. | ||
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
| Thanks for all that you do. | ||
| Really grateful, and I'm going to go out here and try to support Russ's good organization and try to make sure this budget gets out there for everybody to understand it. | ||
| Yeah, fantastic. | ||
| See you guys tomorrow morning. | ||
| Chip Roy. | ||
| All right. | ||
| God bless, Steve. | ||
| Great. | ||
| God bless you. | ||
| Take your number two pencil out, folks. | ||
| Write down. | ||
| This is going to get gnarly. | ||
| This is going to get nasty. | ||
| I can already tell. | ||
| This is going to be nasty. | ||
| Think about it for a second. | ||
| $870 billion. | ||
| And you sign off on that as a baseline. | ||
| And I'll raise you. | ||
| I'll give you another $150 billion. | ||
| I'll give you another $150 billion. | ||
| And we can buy all kinds of other stuff. | ||
| Because the stuff we bought before is, I don't know, not the right stuff. | ||
| There's still not enough. | ||
| I'll talk about it tomorrow. | ||
| This is why I've asked Cain to join us. | ||
| Cain is a brilliant guy, and this is really the reason he's done Citizens Free Press. | ||
| This is his issue. | ||
| We're going to have Cain on tomorrow morning. | ||
| When Cain puts up those red and green headlines back-to-back, he's sending a signal that this is important. | ||
| This is why we've done, by the way, the situation with the dollar. | ||
| I'm going to have on Monday, Sahila Moshun, the senior correspondent for Bloomberg News in Washington, D.C., wrote an amazing book, How the Weaponization of the Dollar Changed the World Order, Paper Soldiers. | ||
| And we're going to talk. | ||
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| How about that? | ||
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| Get to know Philip Patrick and the team also. | ||
| Liz, you're... | ||
| Also about how the world works is Archbishop Vigano. | ||
| That's why I'm so honored that we were able to get this up exclusive on the site. | ||
| We're pushing it out hard. | ||
| We're going to address this even again. | ||
| Ben Harnwell is going to be live in Rome with us. | ||
| His warning to America is spiritual, but at the same time it's quite practical that there are enemies of Christianity. | ||
| There are enemies of... | ||
| An ordered country. | ||
| They're enemies of the spiritual life of man. | ||
| And they are not lurking in the shadows. | ||
| They're out there and they're actually in control. | ||
| And you must not lose this moment to address it. | ||
| Liz, you're... | ||
| Yeah, one of my favorite lines in his interview with you is, with the election of Donald Trump, the infernal machine of the New World Order has somehow jammed. | ||
| Putting into crisis a system of corruption, conflicts of interest, and blackmail that seemed to work perfectly. | ||
| But it's up to the citizens and the believers to support good rulers and good pastors so that they can finally bring justice to this global cool that threatens all of humanity. | ||
| Unbelievable. | ||
| Liz, just hang on for one second. | ||
| We're going to come back and go through more about the conclave, the great work of the community of the present danger of China, because this ties right back to geopolitics. | ||
| Absolute geopolitics. | ||
| Tomorrow, I'm also going to try to drill down the situation in Texas, the Lone Star State, the railhead of the MAGA movement, and the great patriots down there that have fought and fought and fought and fought and delivered a victory for President Trump by 14 points. | ||
| Think about that for a second. | ||
| 14 points. | ||
| Ted Cruz by 9. Total off the rails down there with these Democrats in the House. | ||
| And really the RINOs. | ||
| And the Bush faction. | ||
| That's what it's about. | ||
| Same people came after Paxson. | ||
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| Liz Jor on the other side. | ||
| Australia on Sunday, one of the big issues is the United States Navy, and particularly ballistic missile submarines. | ||
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In America's heart, go on. | |
| here's your host, Stephen K. Mann. | ||
| Liz, any of the highlights? | ||
| I'm going to talk about this again tomorrow morning on the show. | ||
| Harnwell's going to be there in the Vatican, and we've got so much else to do. | ||
| We're going to talk about Texas, President Trump's, some of the politics regarding this budget, all of it. | ||
| So tomorrow morning's going to be absolutely jam-packed. | ||
| Any other thoughts? | ||
| Before we shift back to this Chinese deal, the deal with the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Any other thoughts on the... | ||
| This interview is explosive. | ||
| We asked very tough questions, very pointed questions, and hey, guess what? | ||
| He answered them. | ||
| And answered them in brilliant detail. | ||
| Any other thoughts before we shift to another topic? | ||
| No, Steve. | ||
| You know, we were hurtling towards Agenda 2030, and with Divine Intervention, we... | ||
| Got the blessings of a Trump election. | ||
| And also, I might add, the death of Jorge Bergoglio. | ||
| So it is a moment in time when we need, as you always say, don't take your foot off the pedal and just keep pushing forward. | ||
| But we need not only political muscle, but we need spiritual and moral guidance. | ||
| And we're not getting it for the time being from the Vatican. | ||
| But I think people will get both political... | ||
| And moral guidance from this interview. | ||
| He hits it all from everything from a global coup to the traditional Latin mass to what we all need to do to make sure that the deep state is crushed. | ||
| So it's a great read. | ||
| It's a little dense in some places, but it's fascinating. | ||
| No, I think people... | ||
| And here's what... | ||
| And for our evangelical Christian brothers and sisters, for our Jewish... | ||
| Listeners, Muslim, any faith, the Buddhists, all the Asians, everybody. | ||
| One thing he's arguing here is that we need to have a great awakening, not just spiritually. | ||
| You need to have a practical awakening about what this apparatus is that controls so much. | ||
| And that this must be taken down. | ||
| If it's not taken down, it's kind of the, I think it's comment of the... | ||
| The possibilities of the moment, but also the terror of the moment, that you miss this. | ||
| He makes this brilliant case that, you know, and he is a believer that Donald Trump is divinely inspired, providentially. | ||
| That if it had not been for Trump, if it had not been for Trump in this time and place, it had been over. | ||
| And then you've got to take advantage of that because you're not going to have Trump. | ||
| Even Trump running in 28 and winning again, we're not going to have Trump forever. | ||
| And this is urgent work that must be done and must be done today. | ||
| Nothing could be a higher priority. | ||
| He's reiterating everything you say in the war room, Steve, that if we've got to take advantage of this moment, it's important to pull back the curtain, expose and battle. | ||
| The evil ones who are pulling all the strings behind the curtain. | ||
| And really, we've got to get tough. | ||
| And we can't take any of our victories for granted. | ||
| Now's the time to double down because the global elites are doubling down. | ||
| They're not going to back off. | ||
| And as much as we want to back, it's not going to work. | ||
| Another take. | ||
| I actually misread her tweet because I only saw the first part. | ||
| MTG comes from a totally different perspective. | ||
| She's got a tweet out about the party and about, you know, and Trump. | ||
| You've got to read that. | ||
| I'll put it up on my getter later. | ||
| But it's a different angle. | ||
| But she's saying essentially the same thing. | ||
| These people are warning us about the lack of urgency. | ||
| Talk about urgency. | ||
| Frank Gaffney, the companion of the President Danger. | ||
| This is one of the central issues that must be dealt with by the Catholic Church now in regard to this conclave. | ||
| We cannot go forward, Liz Yor, with a secret deal with the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| You can't have a situation where Ben Harnwell argues, and this kind of cuts against a lot of, I think, traditional Catholicism the way we think. | ||
| The Protestant churches are much more driven by laity. | ||
| The laity has a much more active role in their governance. | ||
| The Catholic Church just has not had that. | ||
| Ben Harnwell and others are saying, hey... | ||
| Given the corruption of these bishops, the incompetence of these bishops, you need to have a much more active laity. | ||
| One issue that we point to is that the hierarchy of the church gave that power to the Chinese Communist Party over the selection of bishops in a secret deal, and we know they've crushed the real traditional underground Catholic churches, one of the strongest branches of the Catholicism we had. | ||
| That must be unveiled. | ||
| How high a priority is this of that it's got to be... | ||
| Laid out publicly, discussed, and actually people held accountable for how we had this deal with the Chinese Communist Party, because this underpins, really, the fiduciary responsibility of the church in just about every area. | ||
| Liz, you're... | ||
| Yeah, Steve, we're calling it the Vatican Suicide Pack with the CCP. | ||
| We've been talking about this on War Room. | ||
| Every time the pack came up to be renewed, we showed how it was violated. | ||
| Steve, there are 10 Catholic bishops that have been arrested, detained, and disappeared by the CCP. | ||
| And the Vatican never did a thing. | ||
| I mean, you know, it... | ||
| Beautiful, that beautiful man, Cardinal Zen, 93 years old. | ||
| He's at the conclave right now, and he is raising holy hell. | ||
| This secret deal, before the ink was even dry on the deal, the CCP was violating it. | ||
| They were arresting, harassing. | ||
| They were bulldozing churches, not only Catholic churches, but Christian churches. | ||
| And as a result, it has been violated. | ||
| To the T, and we don't know what's in it, but now we know. | ||
| Now we know. | ||
| When Pope Francis just passed away, two days later, the CCP appointed two new bishops, one from Shanghai and one from Xinjiang, and without any consultation. | ||
| So essentially we have the Communist Party, the atheistic Communist Party, choosing the hierarchy of the Catholic Church in China. | ||
| These are people who will be participating in the selection of the nationalists. | ||
| And so we are putting a target on the back of every single cardinal in the conclave. | ||
| We demand a loyalty test. | ||
| Are they going to decry this awful agreement? | ||
| Are they going to stand up and say, one, it needs to be revealed? | ||
| Two, it needs to be repealed immediately by the next pope. | ||
| And three, there needs to be a full-throated, I believe, apology to the Catholics and Christians in China for this secret pact, which has caused unimaginable, | ||
| unimaginable destruction and pain and suffering. | ||
| You know, when Francis signed the deal, he said, well, I know it's going to cause a lot of suffering. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| He was right. | ||
| It did. | ||
| I mean, I said back then he should have read The Art of the Deal. | ||
| But this has been, it's a playbook, actually, of how the totalitarians are going to capture The faith and religion. | ||
| And, of course, the Chinese have shown us how it's done. | ||
| They have negotiated and, you know, Cardinal Zen told them, look, it's a suicide pact. | ||
| It's a deal with the devil. | ||
| It's going to be a betrayal of the Christian and Catholic Church in China. | ||
| You are turning over the church to the enemies. | ||
| Of Christ. | ||
| And so, to the enemies of the devil, excuse me. | ||
| And in fact, it's happened. | ||
| And you know, what they did, Steve, is the CCP went to every other religion and said, look, the Vatican approves of our actions. | ||
| We're a partner with the Vatican, so you have to follow us. | ||
| They immediately, and this is what people don't realize, they immediately passed this law which prevents any child, any child in China, | ||
| Why did they do that? | ||
| Why did they do that? | ||
| The most powerful church? | ||
| The most powerful church in the world is the underground evangelical house churches in the underground Catholic Church in China. | ||
| These people are under... | ||
| First of all, the scale of it's huge. | ||
| The Chinese intelligence authorities talk about they may be up to 100 million practicing evangelical Christians in Catholics, traditional Catholics in China, right? | ||
| It's a vibrant, robust church. | ||
| That's where the CCP is so adamantly focused on destroying it. | ||
| This is what the Vatican walked into. | ||
| And McCarrick and the people that made it parallel are not to be trusted. | ||
| McCarrick's one of the worst individuals of the 21st century, right? | ||
| And he was the mastermind in the back of this. | ||
| This whole thing stinks to high heaven. | ||
| And you see this underground church of evangelical Christians and Catholics that are rooted out by the Chinese Communist Party, atheistic, you know, criminal class in Beijing. | ||
| It's obvious why they were doing it. | ||
| The church was getting too strong. | ||
| The church actually threatened their regime. | ||
| She talks about it all the time. | ||
| He's less concerned about the American military and more concerned about evangelical Christianity and traditional Catholicism. | ||
| They feel it is a direct threat to the regime. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| It is a direct threat to the regime. | ||
| They understand. | ||
| These are smart, tough people. | ||
| It is. | ||
| Go ahead, ma 'am. | ||
| Yes, and one more thing. | ||
| People need to know that they are taking down crucifixes in churches and replacing them with Xi Jinping's picture. | ||
| They are rewriting the Bible so that it aligns with communism. | ||
| So everybody can get me at yourchildren.com. | ||
| Please, I urge you to go to Action, Action, Action. | ||
| Go to repealthedeal.org. | ||
| You can sign our petitions there. | ||
| Even if you're not in the United States, it will go to the conclave to the Catholic Church. | ||
| We want this deal repealed, torn up, and exposed to the light of day. | ||
| So thank you, Steve. | ||
| And you can watch the webinar on Repeal the Deal. | ||
| Yeah, Grace is going to put the webinar up. | ||
| We're going to do all this. | ||
| Ben Harner will be with us live tomorrow from the Vatican. | ||
| Liz, thank you for making this happen. | ||
| The great Liz Yor. | ||
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
| Okay, while we're talking geopolitics, on Sunday, another, I think, two huge elections in Romania and in Australia. | ||
| I'll do more about Romania tomorrow. | ||
| In Australia, really, a centerpiece of this is about, guess what, the Chinese Communist Party, tariffs, trade, the international order. | ||
| Stan Wojewski. | ||
| I think I got that right or close enough, from Perseus Group. | ||
| One of the centerpieces of this, one of the most hotly debated, I was actually interviewed on Australian media about three weeks ago. | ||
| This is the only question they wanted to focus on. | ||
| Talk to us, what is the situation with these submarines, these American submarines for the Australian Navy, the construction? | ||
| What is the issue and what's the controversy, sir? | ||
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Good afternoon, Steve. | |
| Thank you for having me on your show and elevating this topic. | ||
| In 2021, a generational defense agreement was signed between the US, UK and Australia, which provided for the construction design of a new class of submarines called AUKUS-class, based on the Virginia-class nuclear propulsion submarine. | ||
| This is a 30-year, $250 billion agreement and defense partnership, which is meant to Both reassure allies and partners in the region, | ||
| but also give predictability to competitors. | ||
| And our concern as of late is seeing the narrative and the sentiment, both political and in the public opinion in Australia, shift dramatically to the point that with elections coming this Sunday, we are entering very choppy waters for AUKUS, | ||
| pun intended. | ||
| We submit to you that there's a good possibility that the AUKUS deal be canceled unilaterally by Australia. | ||
| This is where we are today, and we thank you for elevating this topic on your show. | ||
| But hang on for a second. | ||
| In fact, the Virginia-Claire State Basement, this is a series of fast attack submarines that would be delivered to the Australian Navy for their operation over a number of years, correct? | ||
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That is correct. | |
| Three would be built in the U.S. and several would be built in the U.K. and Australia. | ||
| Yes, some built in the U.S. off of U.S. design, some in the U.K. And they would be on patrol as fast attack submarines in the Indo-Pacific, which is the center of gravity of now our conflict and controversy with the Chinese Communist Party, | ||
| with obviously India and Australia as two of our central allies, correct? | ||
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That is correct. | |
| And it's reaffirming American naval supremacy in the Indo-Pacific, as you said. | ||
| And it does so with a projected 30-year program. | ||
| A 30-year program. | ||
| Is the controversy in Australia... | ||
| The cost of this, given their defense budget, is that they don't want to tell the Chinese, hey, you know, we're actually an ally of America, but we don't want to be too up in your face because now we're building a series of fast attack submarines to basically patrol, to basically take the People's Liberation Navy to the bottom of the Straits of Malacca. | ||
| I mean, what is the issue? | ||
| Is it a money issue? | ||
| Is it they don't want to tip their hand too much to the CCP? | ||
| Why is this so controversial? | ||
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So I think there are several elements that are playing into this perilous moment in Australia's destiny, should we say. | |
| The first one is a cost issue, $250 billion, makes it a generational, perhaps the largest maritime naval defense agreement in our modern history. | ||
| Unfortunately... | ||
| The cost of that program, which, as I mentioned, is $250 billion, is expected to rise due to a number of factors, but certainly a recent announcement with regards to the global tariff regime would certainly drive the cost per unit and the total cost of the program. | ||
| And as a result, this is affecting significantly the arbitrage in terms of the... | ||
| Public defense spending in Australia and committing so much of the resources to this program that obviously a lot of other posts in social spending and elsewhere are being affected. | ||
| The second element, I think, is a delivery schedule issue that the first unit would be delivered from U.S. Yard by 2032. | ||
| And with delays expected, we might be approaching closer to 2034. | ||
| And the first unit built by Australians would be in the 2040s. | ||
| And so that leaves a huge gap in the next six to eight years as to how to be able to enforce, if you will, this maritime domain. | ||
| And that has obviously Australians very worried considering how we're lagging behind in our industrial output to turn around submarines, even for our own submarines. | ||
| U.S. Navy fleet renewal. | ||
| The third element, I think, relates to the shifting global dynamics and what is perceived by most allies and partners as a retreat on the part of the United States, | ||
| potentially also a notion of policy of unpredictability. | ||
| And whether it is with regards to... | ||
| Ukraine or NATO, the Australians are looking very cautiously at how the Trump administration is really keeping to its long-term commitments and wondering if the Trump administration will in fact be there by their side for the duration of the program. | ||
| And I would add a fourth element, which is obviously that the French have a very compelling proposal on the table, which answers both the cost issue and the delivery schedule. | ||
| Don't they always? | ||
| It's a labor government. | ||
| At first, it looked like they didn't have a chance. | ||
| The labor government, where do they stand in regards to this program? | ||
| Because you're right, one of the big issues is that, hey, in all practicality, if you commit to this, it could be a decade before you get delivery of the first fast attack. | ||
| Where does this labor government stand? | ||
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So most of the issues during this campaign have been around cost of living and inflation, energy costs, housing prices, health care insurance, and welfare programs. | |
| The Labor Administration, nevertheless, has been probably more effective at answering electors' concerns about how to deal with President Trump's administration and policies. | ||
| And in that sense, the conservative, or what they call in Australia the liberals, in coalition with the nationalists, have not been able to make that case. | ||
| And therefore, we expect on Sunday a landslide victory for the incumbent with a 54, 55 percent margin. | ||
| I would like to raise the fact that a few days ago in Australian Parliament, a petition was circulated, which was signed by about a third of Parliament members. | ||
| And I think this is... | ||
| Relatively in line with also the popular sentiment, which historically has been against anything nuclear, whether it's nuclear power, nuclear arsenal, or in this case, nuclear propulsion. | ||
| And so there's always been a historic sort of resistance towards anything nuclear. | ||
| And because this is a nuclear propulsion program, obviously, this is one of the fault lines that may be used by some of the opposing. | ||
| Stan, we had a heart out here. | ||
| Where do people go for social media or your website? | ||
| How do they find out more about this, particularly between now and Sunday? | ||
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So I think there's plenty of news. | |
| We don't see as much in U.S. media, but certainly in the U.K. and France and a little more so in Australia. | ||
| There's been tremendous coverage, and that's why we're a little concerned not to see the same kind of attention being given to the topic here stateside. | ||
| but certainly any information regarding the vacillating position of the Australians or about the AUKUS program. | ||
| There's a great LinkedIn page and website called AUKUS Forum, and I commend its Australian CEO, Michael Sharp, who's been at the forefront of trying to bring together all the small and medium-sized businesses that are going to converge | ||
| and orbit around this defense program. | ||
| And we don't have a website. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| 10 a.m. tomorrow morning. | ||
| We'll be live in the Vatican, also talking about this budget, the impact of it, all of it. | ||
| We'll be giving you updates on the issue in South Korea, Australia, Romania, all of it. | ||
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