April 16, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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President Trump wants to remove from our country. | |
| These are the kind of criminals that we need to remove from our country. | ||
| We are American citizens. | ||
| Why should we allow people like this, violent criminals, that have no conscience at all, to murder our mothers, our sisters, our daughters? | ||
| I don't understand why there's even any kind of Problem with this. | ||
| And it's not that it's political, like the left or the right, although I understand different parties have used it in the past. | ||
| But we have to look at it as we are American citizens. | ||
| We need to protect our families, our borders, our children. | ||
| I don't care about politics. | ||
| Well, I do, but I want to preserve life. | ||
| And that's the only reason why I have taken and spoken about Rachel all this time. | ||
| If you're a mother here in the room, can you imagine standing there alive? | ||
| You're alive. | ||
| And someone comes and puts their hands into your chest and rips out your heart. | ||
| That's what it feels like. | ||
| It feels like a part of you is being ripped out of you. | ||
| You can't even describe the pain. | ||
| Just like you can't describe to your husband. | ||
| What it feels like to carry a baby in your womb. | ||
| Or to feel those first kicks. | ||
| Or to know just intuitively if it's a boy or a girl. | ||
| It's only a thing that a mother knows. | ||
| Why are we not protecting the American citizens? | ||
| It's just common sense. | ||
| Why are we not protecting our children? | ||
| And to have a senator from Maryland Who didn't even acknowledge or barely acknowledge my daughter and the brutal death that she endured, leaving her five children without a mother and now a grandbaby without a grandmother so that he can use my taxpayer money to fly to El Salvador to bring back someone that's not even | ||
| an American citizen. | ||
| Have more right than I do or my daughter or my grandchildren. | ||
| I don't understand this. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And I just want to say that as a mother and as an American citizen, the president and our entire team, And I hope people in this room are grateful for your willingness to come here and your request to share your daughter's story. | ||
| And I think the country hears you loud and clear. | ||
| So, thank you. | ||
| Does anyone have any questions for Patty or for me? | ||
| No? I have a question. | ||
| No? Anybody? | ||
| Okay. We'll see you all later. | ||
| the president will be at his dinner later this evening. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you for being here, Ms. Warren. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you for being here, Ms. Warren. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Okay, right there. | ||
| Incredibly powerful. | ||
| And what a day, on the day that it was, the day that the showboating as President Trump was. | ||
| President Trump's Phrase for this is grandstanding. | ||
| The Maryland senator grandstanding. | ||
| Patty just had the most vivid description of her daughter's agony and murder. | ||
| I want to recut that because I'd like to replay that in a moment. | ||
| Here's what we've got. | ||
| We've got a cold open for the show that we're going to get to in a second, but right there in an impromptu press conference. | ||
| This is because of, and I've done a couple of interviews today. | ||
| About this topic. | ||
| This is President Trump as commander-in-chief of the United States military and his role and his oath to heaven to defend this country. | ||
| The courts are trying to come in the middle of, and President Trump is just not going to have it. | ||
| So I don't know if you call it a constitutional crisis, whatever you call it, but President Trump's not going to back off that. | ||
| And there you heard right there a Maryland residence about an incident that happened in Maryland. | ||
| And you've got the Maryland senator down there showboating about going to El Salvador on taxpayer money. | ||
| And this is the power of President Trump and his movement. | ||
| Right there you had an average citizen who was leading a life, their fulfilling life, and their daughter is horribly... | ||
| And that description, I really want to compliment... | ||
| I really want to compliment... | ||
| The entire White House staff and the comm staff over there for allowing that to happen and happen that way because that was actually just brutal. | ||
| And you noticed the mainstream media didn't want to ask one question. | ||
| The question they tried to ask was a snarky question of the press secretary. | ||
| And she goes, no, no question. | ||
| That is the power that we need. | ||
| The mother stood up there and gave that vivid description of what happened in the last few minutes of her daughter's life. | ||
| The brutality of her murder, the brutality of her rape, the callousness of her murderer. | ||
| And no response for the media. | ||
| Not one question interested in asking a following question of the mainstream media. | ||
| What they want to do is ask some snarky question about the showboating, grandstanding politician hanging down in Maryland right now. | ||
| Okay, we have a cold open on a different topic. | ||
| We're going to come back to this. | ||
| We're packed today for the next couple hours. | ||
| Stick around. | ||
| Let's go ahead and play the cold open, and we'll start the show at the War Room. | ||
| Federal judge found he has probable cause to hold the Trump administration in criminal contempt for ignoring his temporary restraining order to either stop planes of detainees from being flown to El Salvador or to turn those planes back around. | ||
| Judge James Bosberg filed the opinion alongside a short one-page order directing the government to either voluntarily comply with his orders or to submit to the contempt finding and identify who exactly in the administration. | ||
| There are a lot more wrinkles here that we're going to have to iron out with some really smart guests in a moment, including more from the opinion which reads like an edge-of-your-seat drama. | ||
| But the bigger question here, and the one that stomped me in my tracks as I read this opinion this morning, is what happens if this goes to the Supreme Court? | ||
| Judge Bozberg sets the stakes as high as they possibly can be. | ||
| Quote, That, | ||
| by the way, is Judge Boesberg quoting a Supreme Court opinion upholding judicial authority back from 1809. | ||
| A specific phrase that Chief Justice John Roberts has also cited in opinions he's written arguing himself on the supremacy of the judiciary. | ||
| So if this goes to the Supreme Court, which it very well could, as the Trump administration has already said it's going to appeal, how might that court decide? | ||
| And how big of a deal will it be? | ||
| Bosberg sets the stakes so high here, saying the administration defied him. | ||
| Criminal contempt. | ||
| If the Supreme Court gets this and doesn't agree with him, does that blow a hole in our Constitution? | ||
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I would think so, because Judge Bozberg is basically setting a dividing line between before and after. | |
| So what he's saying is it doesn't matter that the Supreme Court later vacated his TROs and found temporary restraining orders and found that the appropriate metric of relief is to be found where folks are detained, meaning they had to sue somewhere else other than in the District of Columbia. | ||
| That means that the ACLU, which has brought this case, is now litigating, for example. | ||
| In the Southern District of New York here in Manhattan and in Texas. | ||
| But he's saying, while my orders were still in place, your willful violation of what I clearly directed you to do on March 15th, and then your refusal to provide me any answers. | ||
| Over a course of opportunities, which he then goes through in detail, that can't be tolerated. | ||
| And it's hard for me to see a situation, Katie, in which the Supreme Court finds that tolerable as well. | ||
| It may be that they say, for example, Judge Boesberg should undergo some further fact-finding before he gets to the point that there's probable cause for criminal contempt. | ||
| One of the things that he contemplated doing at that April 3rd hearing that he last had in this case was having people come in and testify But I don't think we're at a place where the court is going to say he's crazy. | ||
| This is not called for because there was a clear order of the district court that was so willfully, flagrantly, clearly violated by the federal government and specifically the executive branch that I don't know that the court can tolerate it and yet uphold the rights of other district judges around the country to declare what the law is and find remedies for when it's violated. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| You've just not got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
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Mega Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
| War Room. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | |
| Wednesday, 16 April, year of early, 2025. | ||
| I'm going to replay the mother's testimony, eyewitness testimony, in the press briefing room in the next block. | ||
| I did want to start this work because I think it shows you how President Trump, they're coming at him for the smallest nits. | ||
| You see what the problem is with that woman. | ||
| Nobody represents her. | ||
| The system does not represent her. | ||
| The system just treats her daughter. | ||
| As just another thing. | ||
| But they want to hold these criminals and hold these terrorists and hold these people that are preying on the American people. | ||
| They want to hold them up specially. | ||
| And you got a U.S. Senator disgustingly flying down there to make a big deal. | ||
| They ought to arrest him. | ||
| Put him in Seacott. | ||
| That's my recommendation. | ||
| Natalie Winters, you've got some scoops. | ||
| You've got some analysis. | ||
| Boesbert is heading forward on contempt. | ||
| Julie Kelly's going to join me later. | ||
| Gold pass is 3,300 again today or is up with more momentum. | ||
| Philip Patrick's going to join us. | ||
| We're packed for the next two hours. | ||
| Natalie Winters, start us off, ma'am. | ||
| National Republicans, because they are at fault for so much of this. | ||
| We know Democrats are going to not just do nothing, but apparently fly down to El Salvador and I think really draw a blurred line between essentially being an honorary member of MS-13. | ||
| If MS-13 or Trendy Aragua wanted to propagandize here in the United States, I think what the Democratic Party and the legacy media is basically indistinguishable from the questions that they would want them to be asking from the actions and the videos that they would want sham, disgusting senators to be making. | ||
| But more importantly, you know, I remember what was it we heard all about the impeachment articles against judges like Boesburg and all the people who've allowed for these people to be allowed into this country. | ||
| Have you seen those hearings happen? | ||
| Have you seen anything substantive actually occur? | ||
| No, it's been talking points. | ||
| It's been Fox News soundbites. | ||
| And I think that the blame, while it might not start with them, I think they need to get their act together and that they are wholly to blame. | ||
| Because at least they like this country. | ||
| They think this country is worth protecting. | ||
| They have let people like Rachel Morin's mother down, and frankly, this whole country. | ||
| Natalie, hang on for a second. | ||
| Here's what we're going to do. | ||
| We're going to take a break, a short commercial break, and we're going to replay. | ||
| We've cut this. | ||
| We're going to replay what just happened in the press briefing room a moment ago. | ||
| And I want to remind everybody, the mainstream media did not have enough respect to even ask a couple of questions. | ||
| What they want to do is come in and immediately ask some snarky questions of the press secretary about President Trump's sheets and cut them off. | ||
| I think you ought to just take CNN and these people and just throw them out of there now. | ||
| It's just ridiculous. | ||
| It's just a waste of time and it's offensive. | ||
| It's offensive. | ||
| They have no respect for the American people. | ||
| They have no respect for American citizens. | ||
| It's quite obvious. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| John Conn with American Heart is going to take us out. | ||
| We're going to be back in a moment. | ||
| I'm going to come back and play as the coal open the entire... | ||
| I witnessed the testimony of the mother, and then we're going to get Natalie back in here. | ||
| Julie Kelly's going to join us later. | ||
| Philip Patrick, that's just in the first hour. | ||
| We've got a whole raft of stuff in hour two, so stick around. | ||
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Peace. I think you changed already. | |
| You went and lost your pride. | ||
| But I'm American made. | ||
| I got American power. | ||
| I got American faith in America's heart. | ||
| Patty should not have to be here today, but she is. | ||
| And we are grateful and we are honored for her willingness and her request to share her powerful story with the world. | ||
| Thank you, Patty, for being here. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| A lot of you don't know the whole story about Rachel and about the crime. | ||
| That was committed against her. | ||
| Even us, her family, we didn't know all the details. | ||
| They kept most of it close to their chest, the detectives, because they didn't want to do anything to hurt the case. | ||
| They wanted to keep the integrity of the case, so they kept everything close. | ||
| I sat for the last two weeks in her trial. | ||
| And we saw layer upon layer upon layer of evidence against the accused, an illegal immigrant from El Salvador. | ||
| And the things that we thought, well, maybe this might have happened, we didn't know. | ||
| But when we were at the trial, we got all the puzzle pieces. | ||
| And I want to share some of those things with you. | ||
| You know that Rachel's a 37-year-old mother. | ||
| She has five children. | ||
| We've walked the trail for the last 25 years that we've lived in Maryland. | ||
| It's a safe place for our family. | ||
| It's where we go to get a little bit of New England, because that's where we're from, New England. | ||
| When she went on that trail that day, she was not planning on dying. | ||
| She wasn't planning on walking to her death. | ||
| She was planning on going to the grocery store with her girls afterwards. | ||
| Victor Martinez, he waited for her. | ||
| He waited for her to come closer. | ||
| He saw her. | ||
| He saw that there was nobody around. | ||
| He attacked her. | ||
| He dragged her 150 feet, blood gushing from her head. | ||
| It left a 150 foot trail of her blood to the culverts where he took, he picked her up. | ||
| He threw her against The wall, the tunnel, and he raped her. | ||
| But before he did that, he stopped on that trail and rocks still stained with her blood. | ||
| He used them to hammer her head against those rocks. | ||
| They say 20, at least 20 times they could count the cuts in her head. | ||
| They said that when they did the autopsy, and I've seen the pictures, there's a six-inch square in the back of her head where the skull is shattered the way that you would crush an eggshell, in pieces. | ||
| Three-fourths of her brain hemorrhaged. | ||
| Her right and left side of her face bashed in. | ||
| Her beautiful face bashed in. | ||
| Her head bashed in. | ||
| Broken bones, fractures. | ||
| He takes and he drags her some more. | ||
| He drags her through the thorn bushes. | ||
| She has all the scrapes and cuts on her body. | ||
| There wasn't one inch of her body that didn't have some kind of injury, whether it's bruising, broken bones, contusions, the scratches. | ||
| She had a fractured rib, fractured nose. | ||
| Fractured skull. | ||
| And then he takes her into the tunnel. | ||
| And he picks her up. | ||
| He throws her against the wall. | ||
| Blood is gushing from her head. | ||
| Her hair is soaked in blood. | ||
| And they showed us pictures of her body. | ||
| Against the wall, the blood outlined her body. | ||
| And you could see where the blood ran down around her as he was raping her. | ||
| And then he threw her down and raped her some more. | ||
| And then he strangled her because he didn't want her to be able to live to tell the story. | ||
| They said that when they did the autopsy on her neck, that one of the things they do is they open up the neck and they look to see how far the injury is. | ||
| And it went all the way down as far as an injury is possible, hemorrhaging in the muscles, because of how... | ||
| Strong and violent the group was around her. | ||
| These are the kind of people that have no compulsion. | ||
| Like, to them, this is nothing. | ||
| And when he was sitting in the courtroom, he actually looked like he thought he was going to be set free. | ||
| There was no remorse on his face at all. | ||
| This person took my daughter so violently and so gruesomely and so graphically that they sealed the pictures because I don't want my granddaughters to see these pictures. | ||
| These are the kind of criminals President Trump wants to remove from our country. | ||
| These are the kind of criminals that we need to remove from our country. | ||
| We are American citizens. | ||
| Why should we allow people like this, violent criminals, that have no conscience at all, to murder our mothers, our sisters, our daughters? | ||
| I don't understand why there's even any kind of problem with this. | ||
| And it's not that it's political. | ||
| Like the left or the right, although I understand different parties have used it in the past. | ||
| But we have to look at it as we are American citizens. | ||
| We need to protect our families, our borders, our children. | ||
| I don't care about politics. | ||
| Well, I do, but I want to preserve life. | ||
| And that's the only reason why. | ||
| I have taken and spoken about Rachel all this time. | ||
| If you're a mother here in the room, can you imagine standing there alive? | ||
| You're alive. | ||
| And someone comes and puts their hands into your chest and rips out your heart. | ||
| That's what it feels like. | ||
| It feels like a part of you is being ripped out of you. | ||
| You can't even describe the pain. | ||
| Just like you can't describe to your husband what it feels like to carry a baby in your womb. | ||
| Or to feel those first kicks. | ||
| Or to know just intuitively if it's a boy or a girl. | ||
| It's only a thing that a mother knows. | ||
| Why are we not protecting the American citizens? | ||
| It's just common sense. | ||
| Why are we not protecting our children? | ||
| And to have a senator from Maryland who didn't even acknowledge or barely acknowledge my daughter. | ||
| And the brutal death that she endured, leaving her five children without a mother and now a grandbaby without a grandmother, so that he can use my taxpayer money to fly to El Salvador to bring back someone that's not even an American citizen. | ||
| Why does that person have more right than I do? | ||
| Or my daughter. | ||
| Or my grandchildren. | ||
| I don't understand this. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| This is the question that the American citizens ask. | ||
| Right there, Patty Morin about her daughter, Rachel. | ||
| The murder trial just ended yesterday. | ||
| And she's asking a question. | ||
| She's a citizen of Maryland. | ||
| Why is her senator down showboating, making a big deal about this other criminal? | ||
| And right there, Natalie, you see the just not the pain, the agony, but also nobody stands up for her. | ||
| Before Trump came, nobody stands up for her. | ||
| Dismissed by the media. | ||
| We're going to play the cut in a second with the media. | ||
| First, no even questions for her. | ||
| When Caroline Levitt, just some snarky question from some mainstream media where Caroline Levitt did the classy thing and just cut it off. | ||
| Your thoughts, Natalie Winters? | ||
| Well, look, the media has covered this issue. | ||
| Front page news 24 /7 vamping on air. | ||
| It's all they want to cover. | ||
| You know what they didn't air? | ||
| I watch CNN. | ||
| I watch MSNBC. | ||
| I don't think they had any interest in airing any of her remarks. | ||
| And I think this goes back to why this show exists, why President Trump, when he descended down that escalator, why he resonated so strongly. | ||
| Because the only time That the legacy media that our betters will dare to even say the word immigration, right, the first time Kamala Harris ever said sovereignty was when she magically went down to Tucson and pretended to talk tough on the border. | ||
| The only way that they'll ever talk about immigration is in the confines of trying to get a gotcha moment against President Trump. | ||
| Now, I'll be very blunt. | ||
| Media Matters, you can quote me on this. | ||
| I do not care about the lived experience or human rights of a convicted, woman-beating, gang member, illegal alien. | ||
| And you can take any of those monikers, and that would be the reason why I don't care. | ||
| Compound them all together, and that's why I really don't give a you-know-what about this individual. | ||
| Now, why I like to have President Trump as my president and not have Democrats in power? | ||
| Not just because I know that it's considerably less likely that I'll end up being raped or murdered like that horrible story you just Just heard. | ||
| But at least my senators and my president would not then fly down to the country that is harboring, if not sending, so many of these gang members to this country to commit heinous acts like that. | ||
| So that's the real tell. | ||
| They won't talk about immigration. | ||
| You know what the American people really want to know? | ||
| And I would love to tell my colleagues this. | ||
| Let's fix the legal immigration. | ||
| Let's get the deportation numbers up. | ||
| They will never ask about immigration. | ||
| Unless it is in the context of trying to smear the logistics and follow through of one case that maybe was a little bit wrong. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| This shows you how wonderful the mass deportation operations have been executed because the best gotcha moment they have, the best fear porn, fear mongering that they can do is a woman beating gang member that apparently they were in the wrong seat and now they're in too harsh of a prison. | ||
| That's the best that they have. | ||
| Natalie Winters, hang on. | ||
| We're going to get to you. | ||
| Julie Kelly's going to be up. | ||
| Coming after the president with a contempt charge. | ||
| You can see that. | ||
| That's Boesburg. | ||
| That's moving forward today. | ||
| That's the other thing the mainstream media is all over is the full-out attack on President Trump. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| Philip Patrick's also going to join us. | ||
| Gold is on a tear. | ||
| What does it signal that now it's starting to move like people have never seen before? | ||
| Julie Kelly. | ||
| Natalie Winters. | ||
| We're also going to have a big autism report came out. | ||
| A ton of stuff going on. | ||
| Stick around. | ||
| The next hour and a half here in the warm. | ||
| Short break. | ||
| Back in a moment. | ||
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Any questions for Patty? | |
| Or for me? | ||
| No? I have a question. | ||
| No. Anybody? | ||
| Okay. We'll see you all later. | ||
| The president will be at his dinner later this evening. | ||
| That shows you how awful they are. | ||
| The spickle. | ||
| I would move them over to the EOB right now. | ||
| Get them out of there. | ||
| Not one question for her after that heart-rendering testimony. | ||
| Discussion about her daughter. | ||
| Her daughter's rape and brutal murder at the hand of an illegal alien invader brought here by Joe Biden and the Democrats. | ||
| You've got a showbiting Democrat senator who's on a plane down in El Salvador talking about somebody's due process. | ||
| Here's your due process. | ||
| We're going to ship them all out of here. | ||
| We don't care what anybody says about it. | ||
| How about that? | ||
| Suck on that. | ||
| Could care less. | ||
| Because they don't care. | ||
| That your daughters are raped by these people. | ||
| They don't care that your daughters are murdered by... | ||
| Would the senator not even be there, go by the trial, talk to her, talk to the mother? | ||
| Kid care less. | ||
| He wants to be on MSNBC. | ||
| That's what these people think. | ||
| They got a... | ||
| Stephen Chung put out a tweet. | ||
| MSNBC would not show it because they're too gutless to show it. | ||
| CNN wouldn't even show it because they're too gutless to show it because they know it makes a lie of everything they've been telling the American people. | ||
| And now it's time for us to go on offense. | ||
| Why are we just waiting around? | ||
| Why are we just sitting here? | ||
| Why are we not going, Pam Bondi, where are the prosecutions of the people that did the invasion, that set up the invasion of the southern border? | ||
| Where? Cash, where the arrest? | ||
| Where are, what are we doing? | ||
| Are we going to get serious about this or are we not? | ||
| It's very powerful. | ||
| She goes to the White House and incredibly power. | ||
| The president of the United States gives her a global platform. | ||
| But what action are we taking? | ||
| What are we doing about it? | ||
| This is why Tom Fitton and others are so frustrated. | ||
| What are we doing about it? | ||
| What are we doing about this? | ||
| What is going on at this very moment about that? | ||
| We understand the president is sending these folks and DHS is sending these folks back to. | ||
| El Salvador, Venezuela, wherever they're going. | ||
| He's doing his job. | ||
| What are we doing about the rest of it? | ||
| How did this happen? | ||
| How do we have in front of this, on this budget committee, $170 billion? | ||
| Let me repeat that. | ||
| $170 billion. | ||
| You can add up the NATO defense budgets. | ||
| I don't think you reach $170 billion of all the countries over there. | ||
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Or if you do, you barely reach it. | |
| $170 billion to rebuild the infrastructure to deport the 10 million people, the illegal alien invaders. | ||
| But what are we doing about the people that set up the system? | ||
| Todd Benzman's on here all the time. | ||
| He said it was intricately set up to mass invade the country. | ||
| Where are those politicians? | ||
| Where's Mayorkas? | ||
| Where's the grand jury? | ||
| Where's the investigations? | ||
| It's one thing to provide a platform and hear that heart-rendering story, but how are you going to stop it from the future? | ||
| It's take action now. | ||
| The reason the frustration of this audience and all the work and effort to get here, let's do something. | ||
| Because don't think you're going to be here forever. | ||
| You can't plan on that. | ||
| Action, action, action. | ||
| And I don't care about the FBI counterterrorism force, all that. | ||
| That's just not relevant now. | ||
| We care about this, and we care about what Tom Fitton's suing about. | ||
| What does it mean that a guy like Tom Fitton that couldn't be more supportive of people has to go to court and sue? | ||
| You cannot take advantage of the MAGA movement and what the people that got here and what their priorities are. | ||
| Their priorities are important. | ||
| Not your priorities. | ||
| Their priorities. | ||
| Let's be blunt. | ||
| You're there because of them. | ||
| So their priorities should be your priorities. | ||
| And that is not the case right now. | ||
| And that has to change. | ||
| It has to change. | ||
| Repeat this. | ||
| It has to change. | ||
| This is revolting. | ||
| Disgusting. Let's bring Philip Patrick in. | ||
| Philip, I got a chart, and I think the great Grace Chung got it to me today. | ||
| It was a very busy day, and I was doing a lot of stuff, but I got this. | ||
| Of all the stuff she was sending me, this thing shocked me the most. | ||
| And this is why, for those that listen to the podcast, you have to go and register and get the actual visuals. | ||
| We put them out, the clips we do, to actually see the show, because this chart has to be seen. | ||
| Walk me through this chart. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Because is it Kobayashi? | ||
| This guy's terrific. | ||
| And he says, hey, gold is moving now in the way it would move if you're looking at a Great Depression. | ||
| I just want to make sure because that's gotten a lot of buzz this afternoon, particularly after the Fed came out earlier and said, hey, these tariffs could drive inflation, etc. | ||
| We've seen extraordinary movements in gold, and you have taught us over the last four years that gold does not move like this. | ||
| It's a store of value and a hedge against times of financial uncertainty. | ||
| Now it's moving, I don't know, like a penny stock, sir? | ||
| It is. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It almost looks like a chart of the S&P upside down this year. | ||
| But look, one thing's clear. | ||
| Investors are acting now like an economic disaster is already underway, right? | ||
| While other assets are entering bear market territory, capital is rushing into gold. | ||
| Gold now, I would say, is the only global safe haven asset. | ||
| U.S. government debt, of course, was once the gold standard safe haven. | ||
| But it's not as desired anymore. | ||
| And I think gold at the moment is acting as a leading indicator for broader market risk. | ||
| If you look, the Economic Policy Uncertainty Index has hit now its highest level ever, over three times higher than it was during the 2019 China-Trump trade war. | ||
| And I think volatility is back, right? | ||
| Primary capital markets are breaking now below technical levels. | ||
| Central banks, meanwhile, are publicly calling for a soft landing while aggressively stockpiling gold behind the scenes. | ||
| It's rank hypocrisy. | ||
| Gold imports into the US have been so huge, 2% of GDP in the first quarter, that the Fed's GDP Now tool adjusts for them. | ||
| Q1 2025 GDP contraction, including gold, is expected to be minus 2.2%. | ||
| Take out gold, and it's minus 0.1%. | ||
| Gold buying right now is at recession levels. | ||
| And I think the current trade war is just intensifying things. | ||
| Government debt holdings and gold holdings are diverging globally, especially in China. | ||
| And this is all leading to an explosion in gold price. | ||
| The 25th all-time high in gold prices this year. | ||
| So we're expecting it to continue with all the volatility. | ||
| We talk volatility. | ||
| We also want the audience, the end of the dollar empire. | ||
| Go to birchgold.com slash bandit, the end of the dollar empire, the sixth free installment. | ||
| You can get them all today about debt and deficits. | ||
| But here, and this is why we're working on even another new installment with your team already. | ||
| This is the central banks. | ||
| I mean, who is our institutions driving this? | ||
| Because in the old days, central banks and institutions weren't the buyers. | ||
| It was individuals. | ||
| Something's happened fundamentally in this market to drive this type of demand, volume, and price. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| Is it central banks? | ||
| Is it institutional investors? | ||
| It's got to be something then, the basic schmendricks. | ||
| Right out there, the little guy that bought gold forever, sir. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you've mentioned before hedge funds now putting, you know, large percentages into physical gold, which historically was unheard of. | ||
| We've talked a lot about central banks for the last... | ||
| Three years, setting records, 1,000 tons plus in gold buying. | ||
| And, you know, it was the weaponization under the Biden administration of the dollar that incentivized central banks to start looking at alternatives. | ||
| And, of course, huge money printing, which has devalued the dollar. | ||
| Look, the key for the dollar as global reserve since 1971 has been stability with huge money printing, huge debt. | ||
| It doesn't make sense. | ||
| Look at countries like China. | ||
| China has tripled their gold allocation over the last few years. | ||
| They just imported over 700 metric tons from the United Kingdom, from the Bank of England. | ||
| For some context, 700 metric tons is the entire gold reserves of India. | ||
| China are specifically, but other central banks as well, they're diversifying out of US government debt into gold. | ||
| And the reality is, since 2022, it has been a good Trade. | ||
| If you bought gold and a 10-year government debt back in 2021, you'd be up 80% in gold. | ||
| You'd be down 20% in government debt. | ||
| Like I say, this isn't all sort of anti-America, de-dollarization sentiment. | ||
| There is a just... | ||
| It is a better trade today than holding U.S. government debt. | ||
| And I think ultimately that's been driving prices. | ||
| By the way, UBS came out and said if central banks continue to buy, they see gold over 4,500 by the end of next year. | ||
| Let me just go back. | ||
| 700 metric tons? | ||
| The Chinese just bought that from the Bank of England? | ||
| Purchased that from the Bank of England? | ||
| Yeah. 700 metric tons. | ||
| It is a colossal amount of gold. | ||
| And that's been over the last couple of years, escalating recently. | ||
| Look, the biggest central bank purchases, the biggest single quarter in world history, was the fourth quarter of last year. | ||
| I'm waiting to see first quarter numbers for this year. | ||
| They're not out yet. | ||
| I suspect they'll be up. | ||
| So the trend is continuing, and China are leading the charge. | ||
| Unbelievable. I want to make sure everybody goes two things. | ||
| Take your phone at Bannon, B-A-N-N-O, and text this, Bannon, 989898. | ||
| You get Philip Patrick in the team. | ||
| Philip Patrick's in the team's ultimate guide for investing in gold and precious metals in the era of Trump. | ||
| Make sure you get that. | ||
| Plus, go to birchgold.com slash Bannon, end of the dollar empire. | ||
| We're working on much more bundling this thing differently so that you can get updates on what's happening in Rio. | ||
| The Birch Gold team will be there. | ||
| That's the BRICS meeting. | ||
| Because remember, the Chinese Communist Party, this economic war we're engaged in, the Chinese Communist Party, de-dollarization is at the top of their agenda. | ||
| Philip, how can people get you over to Birch Gold? | ||
| Because now more than ever, I've been telling this for four or five years, you need to talk to Philip Patrick and his team. | ||
| Where do they go? | ||
| Very simple. | ||
| Birchgold.com forward slash Bannon or Bannon to 989898. | ||
| Get the information. | ||
| Get the End of the Dollar Empire series and the report on how and why to invest under a Trump administration. | ||
| And they can reach me at Philip Patrick on Getter, as always. | ||
| Extraordinary work, Philip. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Appreciate you, sir. | ||
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
| Do I have Julie? | ||
| Julie, we've got a minute on this side. | ||
| I want to just give the headline of what Boesburg did, and I'm going to bring you back for the next segment. | ||
| Contempt. Are we heading towards a contempt charge against President Trump and his senior team, ma'am? | ||
| That's exactly what it looks like, as we have discussed and I predicted from, I think, day one of this whole debacle. | ||
| He did issue this opinion saying that he believes that Trump officials did commit criminal contempt. | ||
| He outlined his basis, as we've already discussed. | ||
| What we have to figure out is how you can be in contempt of a court order that was vacated by the Supreme Court last week, actually two of them, and how the Trump administration can remedy what he calls contempt by following temporary restraining orders that are nonexistent. | ||
| This was really a bizarro opinion and definitely not worthy of someone who is the chief judge of the D.C. District Court, Jeff Osberg. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| We're taking a short commercial break and we're going to come back to this. | ||
| And I can tell you from someone who spent four months in a federal prison on a misdemeanor charge of contempt, this is the way they roll. | ||
| I've said this time and time and time again. | ||
| They are trying to put Trump officials and they're trying to put Trump in jail, in prison. | ||
| If you doubt it, if you doubted anything today, a criminal contempt opinion, as Julie Kelly told you, was coming at the beginning of this. | ||
| We're going to get the entire story. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Natalie Winters, Natalie G. Winters and Julie Kelly are with us. | ||
| We're going to break this all down. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
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Okay, um... | |
| Okay, I want to go back to the beginning of this because you called this to the meeting. | ||
| What actually happened? | ||
| What did Boesburg do today? | ||
| And how dangerous is this for the president and the folks around him, ma'am? | ||
| So what Bosberg found and what he's been signaling and threatening for the last few weeks, really since he got this case on March 15th, is accusing the Trump administration, specifically the Department of Justice, of defying two written temporary orders that were handed down on March 15th. | ||
| What those temporary restraining orders did was first prevent the deportation removal of five unnamed illegal Venezuelans who were covered by the president's Alien Enemies Act proclamation. | ||
| Then he set a hearing for five o'clock that day. | ||
| It was a Saturday on March 15th. | ||
| This lawsuit filed by the ACLU on behalf of these unnamed five illegals. | ||
| What the ACLU was asking Judge Bosberg to do was convert those five into a class-action lawsuit covering any illegal Venezuelan in custody suspected of having ties to Trente de Aragua and subject to immediate removal. | ||
| Judge Bosberg held that hearing at 5 o'clock. | ||
| He recessed at about 5.22, which is important. | ||
| Because about four minutes later, one plane carrying the Alien Enemies Act subjects left Southern Texas. | ||
| And about ten minutes later, another plane carrying AEA, Alien Enemies Act subjects, left Southern Texas for Central America. | ||
| As we have talked about and I reported at my substack, I believe that Judge Bosberg knew those planes were planning to take off. | ||
| He called a recess right at that moment, instructing the DOJ attorney to make calls and find out the status of flights that were leaving. | ||
| Again, a Saturday night, March 15. DOJ attorney returns to the hearing. | ||
| It is resumed at 6 o'clock. | ||
| He tells Judge Bosberg, I can't get any details on these flights. | ||
| Bosford doesn't care. | ||
| Then makes an extraordinary what he calls an oral command. | ||
| That's how he referred to it in his opinion today. | ||
| Oral command instructing the DOJ lawyer to tell his clients, this would be DHS, DOJ, to immediately return planes that were in the air headed to Central America with these subjects illegals covered by a presidential proclamation. | ||
| Over which Judge Bosberg said he did not have authority to review, nonetheless takes this extraordinary oral command telling him to return flights that at that point were already out of U.S. airspace. | ||
| He then says, Steve, and this timeline is super important, he then tells the ACLU and DOJ attorney, don't write any of this down. | ||
| I'm going to put this in a written order shortly. | ||
| He publishes a written order at about 726, so roughly 40 minutes after this so-called oral command. | ||
| And he turns the five unnamed plaintiffs, illegals, into a class-action suit and prohibits their removal. | ||
| He does not, however, include what he said, his oral command, to return claims. | ||
| So that, on itself, very confusing. | ||
| He then continued over the past few weeks to push for details about those flights. | ||
| Attorney General Pam Bondi, Secretary of State Rubio, DHS. | ||
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. | |
| Slow down. | ||
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Slow down. | |
| Full stop. | ||
| But there, you're telling me, from the bench on a Saturday afternoon and a Saturday evening, from a court in D.C. or by Zoom, he's actually intruding into the decisions of the Commander-in-Chief of The United States military? | ||
| On what he's doing in a military maneuver? | ||
| This guy's actually intruding right there, asking his questions and wanting planes to turn back. | ||
| That's what this judge is doing? | ||
| They ought to arrest this judge. | ||
| Is that what he's doing? | ||
| That's exactly what he did. | ||
| And Steve... | ||
| All this happened very quickly on this Saturday, March 15th, without any meaningful input or briefing by the Department of Justice or Trump administration. | ||
| Nonetheless, and Bosburg has repeatedly admitted how quickly the proceedings advanced that day, that it was out of the norm for him to do what he did, but nonetheless stepped in and not only prohibited these flights, | ||
| but then ordered them. | ||
| To be returned. | ||
| And then when the Department of Justice attorney couldn't get information, this is when he started setting what I call this contempt trap for the Trump administration. | ||
| Now, what also happened that day, and this is important, is that the DOJ immediately appealed his first order for those five unnamed illegals. | ||
| So Heardy knew this was going to be on appeal. | ||
| He also admitted numerous times. | ||
| That the jurisdiction, Washington, D.C., could be improper, that this would have required a habeas petition in the venue or jurisdiction where these illegals were in custody, which was Southern Texas, not Washington, | ||
| D.C., which is why the Supreme Court last week, the main reason why the Supreme Court, vacated his two written temporary restraining orders. | ||
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I don't know on what basis he made this contempt. | |
| Hang on. | ||
| I want to hold you to the 6 o'clock hour because I've got to go through this in more detail. | ||
| And I've got Natalie Winters for Breaking News out of the State Department and more analysis of this. | ||
| This is a big one. | ||
| And we're going to get into the bizarre nature that all this thing has been overturned, etc. | ||
| But this is why, talk about action, Jim Jordan, why are you not heeding what Mike Davis, the vice president? | ||
| Why have we not started impeachment hearings on this guy? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It should have started weeks ago. | ||
| This is why you start things. | ||
| People should be frustrated. | ||
| It's the same old Republican. | ||
| Let's just kind of go along to get along. | ||
| The lack of action, the lack of spine, the lack of steel, the lack of doing something. | ||
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