April 17, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| Here's one time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
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Mega Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance. | ||
| *Dramatic Music* | ||
| Okay, Wednesday, 16 April, Year of the Lord 2025. | ||
| Just because it's Holy Week, it doesn't mean it's not action everywhere on every front trying to confront President Trump and the MAGA movement in attempting to restore this nation to the constitutional republic it once was. | ||
| And nothing could be more appropriate than in the run-up to the 250th anniversary of really the start, the real start of the American Revolution that would be... | ||
| The Sacred Ground in Lexington and Concord that will be on Saturday. | ||
| By the way, we will be live on Saturday covering that wall-to-wall. | ||
| So the Saturday show will be very, very special. | ||
| And I really want to thank Real America's Voice for making that happen traditionally on Easter weekend. | ||
| We try to do the Holy Saturday show and do it in advance so that people can have the weekend off. | ||
| But because of the unique nature of the 250th commemoration of this historic event, we will be live. | ||
| Julie Kelly. | ||
| In our Republic, That was at the beginning of the republic, people that fought the crown and the oligarchs and the concentrated economic power of institutions and entities like the British East India Company. | ||
| And that was those folks with this audience that said, we're not going to do this anymore. | ||
| We're going to take a stand and we're not going to retreat. | ||
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It took eight years. | |
| They're a year away from the Declaration of Independence. | ||
| It actually took nine years. | ||
| Nine years. | ||
| Nine years of warfare to eventually win. | ||
| Why did they win? | ||
| They didn't quit. | ||
| They could have quit at Valley Forge. | ||
| They could have quit in Brooklyn when they surrendered. | ||
| They could have quit at the American Dunkirk across the East River. | ||
| They could have... | ||
| Quit when they got run out of Manhattan. | ||
| They could have quit when they got run across New Jersey. | ||
| Retreat, retreat, retreat. | ||
| Just lose, lose, lose. | ||
| They could have quit in Valley Forge. | ||
| Later at Morristown, people forget the other winners were even more brutal than Valley Forge. | ||
| They could have quit at any time. | ||
| They could have quit. | ||
| If you're starting to dance too hard, let's negotiate a deal. | ||
| They could have quit. | ||
| And they didn't. | ||
| And they won. | ||
| Lesson. Take number two, Prince of Latin, and write that down. | ||
| Because I want to tell the apparatus, we're not quitting either. | ||
| And you're not going to defeat us. | ||
| We cannot be beaten. | ||
| The reason we cannot be beaten, we're not going to quit. | ||
| Julie Kelly, and this just goes to reinforce, again, the lack of action and the lack of urgency in the traditional Republican Party that this is just another thing. | ||
| Let's have some fundraisers. | ||
| Let's go to some dinners. | ||
| Let's go to the Capitol Grill. | ||
| Let's just go party. | ||
| Right? Let's take a couple of weeks off. | ||
| Let's take a couple of weeks off. | ||
| Let's take Easter. | ||
| Hey, stay here and do Holy Thursday here and do Good Friday here. | ||
| People want you to work. | ||
| They don't care about you coming back. | ||
| You're not doing any town halls anyway, and the town halls are now disrupted, so why do it? | ||
| The constituents want you here. | ||
| And how about this? | ||
| How about an impeachment hearing on Bozburg? | ||
| Let's take a vote in the chats. | ||
| Who would rather have that? | ||
| Who thinks You are putting forward the best principles of the Judeo-Christian West by staying here and working through the Easter weekend. | ||
| Would not the apostles and the saints think, yes, get on with it. | ||
| Please save this culture. | ||
| Please save this civilization. | ||
| We'd rather have you working here in good faith to save this constitutional republic, the new Jerusalem. | ||
| Right? Than doing whatever the hell you're going to do, you know, somewhere else, which is all goofing off. | ||
| Jordan, you ought to call... | ||
| With this thing today, it shouldn't be the president having to bug you and people around him having to bug you and war room going on. | ||
| You should say, guess what? | ||
| I'm calling the committee back tomorrow and we're going to have our first impeachment hearing. | ||
| I want Boesburg to show up. | ||
| Even if that meant, as close as this to our heart, putting a hold... | ||
| Or switching out a Judge Bosberg on the trial of Zuckerberg? | ||
| Which Bosberg happens to be the judge? | ||
| Julie Kelly, where are we, ma'am, in this? | ||
| Give me some more details, more receipts, and then tell me what we should do. | ||
| Ma'am. | ||
| So where we are right now in Judge Bosberg's opinion sets some deadlines for next Wednesday. | ||
| April 23rd. | ||
| And by that point, Jeb Bosper gave the DOJ, Trump administration, an ultimatum. | ||
| By April 23rd, you explain to me how you are going to purge the contempt, meaning unwind the contempt, not being contempt anymore, and explain how you're going to do that. | ||
| Now, again, how do you how are you not in contempt or how do you resolve contempt accusations for temporary restraining orders that are in contempt? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He set out some framework for that, which also did not make a lot of sense. | ||
| Or he said, To return planes and to not remove these illegal Venezuelans covered by the Alien Enemies Act. | ||
| So that is the deadline he set today. | ||
| Still waiting. | ||
| I keep refreshing the docket to see. | ||
| I'm assuming any moment. | ||
| Trump's DOJ will file an appeal of this opinion, seek an emergency, stay to that, including those deadlines. | ||
| So that is something I think we can expect. | ||
| But what Bosberg did, I think, really brazenly, aside from everything he wrote today and everything that he's said and done over the past month, is he said that if the government, if the Department of Justice does not pursue contempt charges, he will, | ||
| under Rule 42, A federal criminal procedure. | ||
| Name a court-appointed attorney to do that. | ||
| And, of course, that's what we saw his colleague Emmett Sullivan do in 2020 when both the DOJ and Mike Flynn's attorneys sought to dismiss the case against him. | ||
| Emmett Sullivan cited that very same rule in saying that he was going to hire, name a separate attorney. | ||
| To pursue contempt charges against Mike Flynn. | ||
| So if the D.C. Appellate Court upholds this, it's very hard to see even the Democrat, overwhelming majority Democrat population on that court. | ||
| Very hard to see them uphold Bosberg's order. | ||
| But if they do, of course, this will head right back to the Supreme Court. | ||
| And we'll see what they say about what appears to be Judge Bosberg's own contempt of the Supreme Court ruling vacating his two temporary restraining orders that he's now somehow trying to still enforce. | ||
| With all the nuance of this and all that, it's clearly... | ||
| Bosberg wants to make a statement that he thinks Trump and the people around him are criminals. | ||
| Let's just be blunt. | ||
| Let's just say what it is. | ||
| If we used to start the impeachment hearings, and folks, you don't need to blow them up now because they're not around. | ||
| We'll do this starting on Monday. | ||
| We'll get organized in this, and we'll hit them with a tsunami because Jim Jordan and these guys have got to wake up. | ||
| If we do it now, aren't they going to say, Oh, this is just because they had the condemned thing. | ||
| When you warned them about this almost two weeks ago, that this was going to happen, you've called this play-by-play, have you not, ma'am? | ||
| Yes. Yes, they did, a month ago. | ||
| I mean, I think I was on your show Monday, March 17th. | ||
| Judge Bosberg had another hearing that day. | ||
| Where he was already accusing the Department of Justice of not following his orders and not giving him the information that he wanted. | ||
| He was demanding details on these deportation flights. | ||
| The Trump administration refused to turn that information over, saying it was national security information. | ||
| He kept pushing for it. | ||
| And then finally... | ||
| had to invoke state secrets privilege and declarations by Pam Bondi and Marco Rubio and Kirstie Noem explaining why the court had no authority to receive that information, that it was sensitive executive branch presidential prerogative. | ||
| And he even said in his opinion today, he mocked that as well and said there was no evidence that they needed to invoke this state secret privilege to keep this information from me. | ||
| He's been very indignant about that, saying, I'm a judge, I get classified information all the time. | ||
| Why are you withholding this from me? | ||
| Well, the reverse question is, what do you think entitles you to get presidential authority information related to immigration policy, national security policy, and foreign diplomacy? | ||
| The Article 2 rights of the right to obligations and responsibilities and duties of the president to be commander-in-chief. | ||
| This is what they're trying to do. | ||
| They're trying to insert themselves in there. | ||
| I don't know why they're not charges brought against Bozburg, but hey, greater minds than mine will figure this out. | ||
| Julie, where does this go from here? | ||
| They have to respond, I think, by Tuesday, you said, or next week. | ||
| How do you see this thing playing out, at least over the Holy Week, ma'am? | ||
| Well, I would expect the next move to be a notice of appeal by the Trump Department of Justice. | ||
| Then we will see what the D.C. Circuit says. | ||
| If they do put an emergency stay or hold on this opinion today, that would then put a hold on this April 23rd deadline that Bosberg set today. | ||
| If they don't, then the Department of Justice will have to either say, okay, we will... | ||
| Clean up our contempt accusations that you made against us. | ||
| I'm not sure what that looks like. | ||
| It sounded like, in his opinion, it would require any illegal Venezuelans who were on those two flights during the hearing that they would somehow have to be returned to the United States. | ||
| He said then that they don't have to be returned to the United States. | ||
| So he was very vague about what that meant to comply with this order that, again, has been vacated. | ||
| So the DOJ has that choice, or again, what he said is declarations by top officials as to why they did not follow his orders given on March 15th. | ||
| So we'll just have to keep an eye on the docket for now and see what happens. | ||
| I don't know if you came in late, but the mother's heart-rendering account. | ||
| Of what happened to her daughter when she's brutally raped and murdered by an illegal alien evader. | ||
| This is the stakes. | ||
| I mean, you have this showboating senator down there now. | ||
| Thank God the El Salvadorans, they're not going to put up with it, right? | ||
| The guy down there runs the deal. | ||
| It's a close-run thing down there. | ||
| Yes. I mean, isn't that the stakes? | ||
| We are obligated as the media part of this to continue to bring that up. | ||
| The people have to... | ||
| All they want to do is get into the process and to the details and all this and try to confuse people and try to sow uncertainty in people. | ||
| This is as clear as you could possibly be. | ||
| The man in the office is the commander-in-chief. | ||
| So says Article 2 and the founders couldn't be clearer. | ||
| They don't want people messing with that. | ||
| Okay? This is Boesburg asserting himself. | ||
| I don't know why there's not charges brought on this. | ||
| This is the most outrageous thing I've seen. | ||
| And they're driving it, as we told you a month ago, they were going to drive it to this date to go after the contempt and to put a criminal contempt hearing because they want to put, they want to make people get lawyers. | ||
| And, you know, the same thing as the Russiagate. | ||
| This is all over again of what they do. | ||
| This is how they roll. | ||
| They use the courts, they use these neo-Marxist judges to do this. | ||
| Julie Kelly. | ||
| Right, correct. | ||
| So this is, again, why it's so frustrating that House Republicans have not made, or leadership at least, have made any sort of move against this judge. | ||
| So now we have his narrative building, which we have seen this week. | ||
| The only national conversation has to do with the Abrego-Garcia case. | ||
| Allegations, including by the district court judge in Maryland, that the Trump administration is defying the Supreme Court and her court orders about that illegal El Salvadoran man who is here illegally and had deportation orders. | ||
| So what Bosberg did today, and keep in mind, he said that this order was going to be, this opinion was going to be filed last week, but it seems like he held off on it for the most opportune timing. | ||
| Which is to help bolster the Democrats in media narrative that the Trump White House is just brazenly defying judicial orders all over the place. | ||
| So this is all the headlines that we are going to see tonight. | ||
| We're going to see all day tomorrow, no matter how preposterous Bosberg's opinion and what he said in this order today is he has achieved his goal. | ||
| And that's what I wrote on my substack today, which is to help to promote the idea that not That the courts are lawless, but that the Trump administration is lawless and not following court orders and doing what these judges say they should do. | ||
| Julie, how do people get to your substack? | ||
| How do they get to your social media, ma'am? | ||
| So, I have a big piece on my substack that I just posted before I came out right there, Declassified with Julie Kelly. | ||
| I explain the opinion that Bosworth issued today. | ||
| Also on X, Julie underscore Kelly too. | ||
| So, I'll be on Docket Watch. | ||
| Also tomorrow is the oral arguments and the appeal of Judge Trevor McFadden's preliminary injunction. | ||
| We're forcing the White House to allow Associated Press reporters into various press events. | ||
| That oral argument and that appeal tomorrow afternoon, I'll be covering that as well. | ||
| Couldn't happen to a better group of folks. | ||
| Okay, Julie, great work as usual. | ||
| Just amazing. | ||
| Go to her sub-sac, subscribe, support Julie Kelly. | ||
| Natalie Winters, your observations on all this before we get to the State Department, ma'am. | ||
| Well, I think it fits quite nicely in the color revolution framework and paradigm that we've been discussing, because instead of being able to sit here and discuss what the Trump administration has accomplished or how to fine-tune the mass deportation operations, we're spending overtime, | ||
| and that's what MSNBC is doing. | ||
| They have to put the poor woman's mother up there holding a press conference to push back against this barrage of information warfare that I think they've launched, reframing this whole immigration front. | ||
| Like you were saying, the MAGA movement has kind of thrust to the forefront of the national political debate, but now we're only having it in the confines of, well, did some El Salvadorian gang member get treated with the full dignity that the Geneva Convention would say that he should be when he was being deported? | ||
| It's absolutely ludicrous and asinine. | ||
| But I think you see the convergence on the media front, right, with what all my wonderful legacy media colleagues are doing in the White House briefing room, the questions that they're asking, the overdrive. | ||
| The sort of vamping of, you know, the new constitutional crisis. | ||
| It's the new version of safe and effective. | ||
| But then the legal, I think, sort of compounding factor to it, they can't impeach President Trump yet, right? | ||
| But Norm Eisen's going to be on CNN this evening to discuss what's going on with Bosberg, so you can imagine what he's going to say. | ||
| But they're using whatever legal apparatus they have at their disposal to sort of wage that legal, I would say, tranche of the color revolution framework against President Trump. | ||
| And I think that oftentimes you've always sort of seen these I mean, | ||
| that sounds like a Right? | ||
| We're at war. | ||
| I know we have to condemn the Russians for all the atrocities they've committed. | ||
| What about El Salvadorians who are being applauded by the front row of that briefing room, and the best they can do after her whole speech is try to get a gotcha question on President Trump? | ||
| These people are despicable, but I think it's not just haphazard, right? | ||
| They're all working in conjunction. | ||
| It's part of a broader effort. | ||
| And my last point on this, this isn't something that just... | ||
| Started, you know, 10 days ago. | ||
| This is something that was being crafted since before President Trump won, but certainly after, right? | ||
| The hotbed, the ground zero of Trump-proofing the government always revolved. | ||
| Around the mass deportations, you had 200 left-wing NGO, you know, open society-type funded groups sending letters and lobbying administration officials under Joe Biden to cease the construction of new detention facilities, | ||
| but to also just release everyone to close all detention centers. | ||
| 200 groups, not even that far left, kind of mainstream Democrat groups. | ||
| So they, I think it's not necessarily that they set up a trap. | ||
| But in some ways they did, because we don't have the domestic capabilities. | ||
| I don't know why they don't want to work with Eric Prince, but this is all coming together in a way that I think is very bad, because we don't have House Republicans who are serious on a messaging or counter-lawfare front to push back against it. | ||
| Despicable. Well, we'll get on that and work on that tonight. | ||
| Let me play. | ||
| I got some big breaking news, and you got some scoops coming out of the State Department. | ||
| Let's go ahead and play the clips. | ||
| Let's play the cold open on this, and I'm going to get to Natalie. | ||
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Something very historic transpired today. | |
| Could you tell the American people what that was? | ||
| Well, we ended government-sponsored censorship in the United States through the State Department. | ||
| And let me explain how we get there. | ||
| This started out, you know, 15, 10 years ago with this effort of let's go after the messaging that Al-Qaeda and ISIS and others are putting to radicalize people. | ||
| Who's going to be against that? | ||
| That sounds normal. | ||
| And then it was like in 2016, oh, you know, we had this foreign interference in our election. | ||
| We need to start targeting some of that stuff. | ||
| By 2020, it had grown into this movement of like actually going after individual American voices. | ||
| And one of the ways that was being done wasn't just directly, because the guy that was running this thing, Stengel, was actually a guy that was out there saying, you know, Donald Trump talks just like a Russian spy. | ||
| He talks just like a terrorist. | ||
| And so do the people around him. | ||
| But they were also taking money from this program and using it to fund these NGOs, these third-party groups who were supposed to be, like, impartial. | ||
| Those groups were then tagging. | ||
| They were literally tagging and labeling voices in American politics. | ||
| Ben Shapiro, the Federalists, others, tagging them as foreign agents. | ||
| So you look at it and say, American taxpayers, through the State Department, were paying groups to attack Americans and to try to silence the voice of Americans. | ||
| And they were consequent. | ||
| This wasn't just a label they put on people. | ||
| Some of these people got deplatformed. | ||
| They got taken down. | ||
| They couldn't communicate. | ||
| So it was outrageous. | ||
| Before President Trump took over, they disbanded this unit. | ||
| They just renamed it and moved it somewhere else. | ||
| But now, over the last few months, we've worked on it and just taken it down. | ||
| And to the extent we're spending money now, we are going to spend money on messaging. | ||
| It's going to be pro-American messaging. | ||
| And it's going to be incentivizing and protecting free speech, which is threatened in all over the world, including countries that are allies of ours. | ||
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There are lingering questions about what was done during that period, where we now have so many people wondering, was I censored because of something? | |
| The State Department did. | ||
| Was my news organization bankrupted? | ||
| Were advertisers contacted about it? | ||
| And there are aggrieved parties. | ||
| There's an important historical record that needs to be unearthed. | ||
| There are active lawsuits. | ||
| There are many reasons for a public disclosure effort on top of this development today. | ||
| Are there any efforts underway to be able to have a kind of GEC files as there were the Twitter files? | ||
| Yeah. So I think what we have to do now, and Darren will be big and bold in that as well, is sort of Because one thing is to say it in a broadcast like this. | ||
| Another thing is to actually put it on paper. | ||
| And there's two reasons to do it. | ||
| The first is because I think people who were harmed deserve to know that. | ||
| And be able to prove that they were harmed. | ||
| And then the other is to make sure it never happens again, right? | ||
| So that 10 years from now, when someone has a brilliant idea like this again, you know, not brilliant idea like this again, you can point to that and say, oh, this was done once before, and here's the reason why we don't. | ||
| That's why accountability is important in these things, because it doesn't just provide justice, but it also prevents it from happening in the future. | ||
| You have something you can point to at the same time and say, these are the kinds of things we want to stay away from. | ||
| And, you know, it's also a very important lesson here. | ||
| If I take you back 15 years and I ask somebody,"Do you think we should be doing more to make sure ISIS and Al-Qaeda are not radicalizing people online?" 15 years ago we'd have said,"Yeah, of course." But look what that turned into. | ||
| And I'm not saying, obviously we don't want ISIS radicalizing everybody, but you have to understand that sometimes some idea that starts out as innocuous or maybe even good intention, whatever, can metastasize, becomes a weapon that can be turned into something else by someone else. | ||
| That's a valuable lesson here. | ||
| And everything we do, you have to understand that when you create something, what you created and what it turns into are not necessarily the same thing, especially when the people in charge change. | ||
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A Frankensteinian minister that takes on a life of its own. | |
| You want to know how people can make a difference? | ||
| Darren Beattie, how many times have you heard Darren on a revolver? | ||
| I don't know, a thousand? | ||
| Darren Beattie is over at the State Department. | ||
| This is historic. | ||
| Natalie Winters, this angle of attack that you guys have been working on forever is so powerful. | ||
| But I am gobsmacked to sit right there, I guess in the lobby of the State Department, the beautiful State Department where we're talking about. | ||
| Michael Benz interviewing the Secretary of State in something that's so powerful. | ||
| What in the hell happened here, man? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, even if they hadn't done a new initiative, which we'll get into, I think just Mike Benz and the belly of the beast in the State Department probably is scary enough to the global censorship industrial complex. | ||
| But they got rid of today quite a historic move, essentially the rebrand of what was the Global Engagement Center, which was sort of the State Department equivalence of what I would sort of compare to CISA, right, an organization that was originally developed through | ||
| the lens of combating misinformation and helping to promote democratic values and helping to stop terrorism. | ||
| But obviously, very quickly, like so many of those initiatives, devolved into censoring Americans and censoring speech, frankly, about a lot of the issues that we were just talking about, issues really pertaining to COVID, origins, vaccines, the Ukraine war, | ||
| immigration, election fraud. | ||
| So this is essentially was a 50 million plus dollar operation that they gutted. | ||
| They got rid of all the employees, placed them, not just... | ||
| But I think the other really important part, and we're breaking this exclusively on War Room, I'm happy to report for you, Steve, that Darren Beattie is going to be spearheading the transparency initiative component to this. | ||
| Think of it sort of in the style of the Twitter files. | ||
| They're going to be searching certain keywords, conservative influencers, personalities, like I was saying, some of the issues I just mentioned, to see who they were censoring. | ||
| And your name, Steve Bannon, this show is going to be included in the first tranche of search terms, sort of research junk that they'll be putting out to see how the government was censoring us. | ||
| Natalie, by the way, a huge hat tip over to Secretary Rubio and Darren Beattie, everybody overstate, Michael Benz. | ||
| We're going to try to break it down and show more of it to you tomorrow morning. | ||
| Incredible interview by Benz, as you can imagine, Benz. | ||
| But it just shows you... | ||
| At Victoria and Newland, they've got to be melting down. | ||
| When Natalie says in Belly of the Beast, you've got Beattie working inside. | ||
| You've got Secretary of State Rubio right there with Michael Benz in an incredible interview, going through so many deep policy issues. | ||
| When people take action, good things happen. | ||
| Natalie Winters, where do people go for your social media, ma'am? | ||
| Look, they've got Nina Jankiewicz. | ||
| We've got Mike Benz. | ||
| I'll take Mike Benz any day. | ||
| Natalie G. Winters on all social media platforms. | ||
| Thank you for having me. | ||
| Fantastic. More heads are going to blow up. | ||
| We've got Mary Holland's going to be here, this autism report. | ||
| It's unbelievable. | ||
| We're going to have Mary Holland from Children's Health Defense join us here momentarily. | ||
| Also, we're going to go to London, Lord Glassman, the British government. | ||
| And this is an agreement of Nigel Farage and a reform movement, the Labour Party, with reform saying, hey. | ||
| The British government is going to seize British steel from the Chinese. | ||
| Nationalize it. | ||
| We'll talk all about that next, right here in the War Room. | ||
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We'll talk all about that next, right here in the War | |
| Preventable disease. | ||
| We know it's an environmental exposure. | ||
| It has to be. | ||
| Genes do not cause epidemics. | ||
| They can provide a vulnerability. | ||
| You need an environmental toxin. | ||
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Once you identify which environmental toxins are causing autism, what do you expect the impact to be on the industries that are causing those? | |
| We're going to figure out a way to make pressure on them to remove it. | ||
| And I think also, you know, there will be market forces that also exert pressure on them to remove it. | ||
| And I want to say I'm very grateful President Trump, because he tasked me on day one of this job with making this a priority of finding out what's causing the autism epidemic, and we are going to do it for him. | ||
| The ASD prevalence rate in eight-year-olds is now one in 31. Shocking. | ||
| There's an extreme risk for boys. | ||
| Overall, the risk for boys of getting an autism diagnosis in this country is now one in 20. And as high in California, which has the best data collection, so it probably also reflects the national trend, | ||
| 1 in 12.5 boys. | ||
| This is part of an unrelenting upward trend. | ||
| The prevalence two years ago was 1 in 36. Since the first ADDM report in 1990, which was 1992 births, Autism has increased by a factor of 4.8. | ||
| That's 480%, I believe. | ||
| Folks, in everything else that happened today, this may be the most historic. | ||
| This is a bombshell. | ||
| And this is ripping through the city right now with unbelief. | ||
| This shows you the power of everything you did to get Donald Trump in office. | ||
| Because this is historic, quite frankly. | ||
| As powerful as what we just saw at the State Department, this is even more powerful over at Health and Human Services. | ||
| Mary Holland joins me. | ||
| I'm new to this part of it, and it's really not my line of country, but I know enough to know I'm gobsmacked about this, but you've dedicated your life to this. | ||
| How big a deal was this speech today in the putting forward of this study? | ||
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Steve, it's huge. | |
| Literally, I and thousands and thousands of other people have been waiting 20, 25 years to hear somebody in government say this is an epidemic. | ||
| And the narrative that this is just better diagnosis, smarter doctors, is absurd. | ||
| And that's what Bobby said today. | ||
| Bobby Kennedy, the secretary, said it's an epidemic, it's real, it's not about better diagnosing, and we've got to find the causes and we've got to stop it. | ||
| I just can't begin to tell you how welcome that is. | ||
| And it was interesting. | ||
| I was able to watch some Fox coverage of that immediately after the announcement, the press conference. | ||
| And it opened up the dialogue. | ||
| Here were these people talking about what the toxic exposures might be. | ||
| It might be food. | ||
| It might be vaccines. | ||
| It might be air pollution. | ||
| It might be water pollution. | ||
| And they were talking about how important it is to parents to stop this, right? | ||
| It was just an open conversation. | ||
| And they said what was so important is now we can talk about this. | ||
| For 20 years, this was a suppressed topic. | ||
| If you said that maybe it was the food or maybe it was the vaccines, you are a concern. | ||
| Conspiracy theorists. | ||
| You were shut down. | ||
| You could not have a polite conversation of, this is a crisis. | ||
| This is an epidemic. | ||
| So it was huge. | ||
| I think this is the beginning of a new narrative that this is an epidemic. | ||
| We have to stop this. | ||
| This is a disability. | ||
| And that it's not okay. | ||
| It's not just about, you know, happy talk. | ||
| It's about, we've got to stop this. | ||
| This is a crisis. | ||
| Okay, New York Times and Embassy are already on offense. | ||
| In this information war. | ||
| Criticizing the study. | ||
| Walk us through because the numbers are kind of shocking. | ||
| One in 31 for the country. | ||
| One in 12 boys in California. | ||
| Did I hear that number correctly? | ||
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You did. | |
| One in 12.5 is what Secretary Kennedy just said. | ||
| So the numbers, it's interesting, Steve, that the numbers are not consistent across the country. | ||
| There's about 16 centers that participate in this CDC study that they've been conducting for many, many years. | ||
| One of the real flaws of this study, the Autism Developmental Disability Surveillance Study, is that it's taking data. | ||
| This is data from 2022 that took them five years to analyze. | ||
| And it's of eight-year-olds. | ||
| So you can be certain that the real numbers of what's happening to two and three and four-year-olds is worse than what we're seeing in this one in 31. So as Bobby Kennedy said, there are areas where there's lower prevalence. | ||
| There are areas where there are higher prevalence. | ||
| One in 12.5 boys in California is catastrophic. | ||
| As he said, a substantial percentage of these people are people who cannot talk. | ||
| They're non-speakers. | ||
| They have very serious comorbid conditions. | ||
| They may have comorbid intellectual disability. | ||
| They may have seizure disorders. | ||
| They may have gastrointestinal problems. | ||
| They may not be able to be toilet trained. | ||
| They may be headbanging. | ||
| Some of these are incredibly difficult health conditions to deal with. | ||
| And I think Bobby Kennedy just opened up this dialogue, opened up this conversation that this country desperately needs. | ||
| He talked about epidemic denial, Steve, and that's what it's been for 20 years. | ||
| This is frightening. | ||
| It's frightening information to the New York Times, the Washington Post, that's been a part of this denial. | ||
| And it's frightening to these industries that may be culpable, right? | ||
| As Bobby Kennedy said, it's environmental. | ||
| There are no genetic epidemics. | ||
| So it must be somebody, as he said in the press conference, who's making money on this. | ||
| It must be that these toxic exposures are somehow profitable. | ||
| What he said and what President Trump has said is we're going to get to the bottom of it. | ||
| There was a question from the press. | ||
| Are they going to have the full answer by September, which they've talked about? | ||
| And Bobby Kennedy said, well, we'll be able to start answering that question by September. | ||
| Given his hearings, isn't this the worst nightmare? | ||
| Isn't this the worst case of what all the opposition and the people paid by the big pharma? | ||
| We're sitting there warning the media about this guy is going to start releasing studies. | ||
| Isn't this their worst nightmare? | ||
| What happened today? | ||
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They are not happy, Steve. | |
| I think we will continue to see tremendous vilification of Bobby Kennedy, of the people that he is bringing to do the studies on this, to look at the numbers. | ||
| We have to just ride that out, because it's too important to pay attention to the people who are going to continue to deny the epidemic and say, Tell us it's all about diagnostics, | ||
| substitution, and so on. | ||
| No, it's a real crisis. | ||
| Anybody who's been paying attention knows that every family in America has been affected by this, and it's time that we got to the bottom of it. | ||
| So on all the tax you're doing, I just want to make sure we got the facts before you let you go. | ||
| This is a CDC study, is it not? | ||
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Yes. So this ADDM, Adam, it's called, has been done periodically every two years since the 1990s. | |
| And one of the other really terrific things about this press conference, and I was there today, was that Robert Kennedy, the secretary, had Walter Zaharodny from New Jersey there. | ||
| Walter Zaharodny is a psychologist who's been doing this study over the years. | ||
| And he confirmed what Secretary Kennedy said. | ||
| This is a real rise. | ||
| This is a rise in This is not better diagnosing. | ||
| That has been, as Bobby called it, the canard that they've been using for decades. | ||
| That is ridiculous. | ||
| You don't see people in their 70s, as Bobby said, you don't see people going around in the mall in diapers and headbanging and unable to talk. | ||
| They don't exist. | ||
| These are people who are existing in their 30s, in their 20s, in their teens, and as young children. | ||
| That tells us that this is environmental. | ||
| And as Bobby Kennedy said also, he pointed to a study that was done by the Environmental Protection Agency in the'90s, but it pointed to this steep increase in three different countries in 1989. | ||
| There was a change point year. | ||
| That's from the EPA. | ||
| We have to go back and look at what were those environmental exposures that changed in 1989. | ||
| And as he said, we have to look for factors that affect That's a limited number. | ||
| It's not a zero or a one number, but you have to look for the exposures that started to rise dramatically in 1989, per the EPA, and that affect boys four to one. | ||
| Where do people go? | ||
| Mary, we want to have you back on. | ||
| I'll talk to you tonight, maybe tomorrow. | ||
| We've got to get drilled down more on this. | ||
| Where do people go to get all the information Children's Health Defense is putting out about this, ma'am? | ||
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Please come to Children'sHealthDefense.org. | |
| You can sign up for our free newsletter. | ||
| We are covering this. | ||
| Sign up for Children's Health Defense TV, CHD TV. | ||
| We will be talking about it there. | ||
| You can find information about it on our website. | ||
| We are going to be on top of this. | ||
| This is absolutely central to our mission. | ||
| Mary Holland, thank you very much. | ||
| Huge day. | ||
| Historic day. | ||
| Those numbers, if they don't scare you, I don't know what does. | ||
| But you see the established order, how they didn't want it to come out. | ||
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| How's that? | ||
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| We told you four years ago, if you learned the process, something's going to happen with gold. | ||
| The inverse of the old US dollar, what they're doing is trying to crush it. | ||
| That's the elites in your country. | ||
| Something big is going on in the United Kingdom right now. | ||
| Lord Glassman from the House of Lords joins me. | ||
| Thank you for staying up so late tonight. | ||
| The Labor Party and Sir Starmer was just over here last week or two weeks ago. | ||
| Nigel Farage are agreeing on a policy of, and let me get this right, British steel was sold to a Chinese entity. | ||
| The Chinese entity did not keep it up and running. | ||
| And now the labor government... | ||
| With support of the Reform Party, are going to seize control of it? | ||
| Do I understand this correct? | ||
| That British steel is going to be rejuvenated by the government, going to essentially be nationalized, sir? | ||
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Nationalization. My favorite word in the English language is nationalization. | |
| And our government has done it. | ||
| I don't want to exaggerate the extent to which Nigel Farage reformed a part of this. | ||
| The Labour Party, the Socialist Party, we nationalized steel, we nationalized coal, we nationalized railways in 1945. | ||
| But then, Steve, you've got the big story, which is the era of globalization. | ||
| And Reagan is as guilty as Thatcher. | ||
| How does globalization work? | ||
| Well, they tell you it's going to be more efficient. | ||
| It's going to be great. | ||
| It's going to be much more efficient, much better. | ||
| So we privatized it. | ||
| And 40 years later, it's owned by the Chinese with Communist Party members on the board. | ||
| And they've sabotaged our steel. | ||
| I mean, that's in the London Times. | ||
| It's all over the place. | ||
| They bought it in order to degrade it so that we couldn't be a sovereign nation. | ||
| So the whole story of globalization is in this story, Steve. | ||
| Talk to me about that for a second. | ||
| What did it lead? | ||
| What were the events that led to the government stepping in to nationalize it? | ||
| And it seems to be one entity that's kind of pulling the country together, at least in certain aspects of it, that people realize we have to have a steel industry, we have to be able to make things, and now the Singapore and the Timbs crowd is finally waking up to that? | ||
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Yeah, they're absolutely in retreat. | |
| It's exactly a really good show tonight, where time after time, on issue after issue, the progressive globalisers are exposed as frauds. | ||
| It's just like that. | ||
| And, you know, the Republican Party was part of this, that whole thing. | ||
| You couldn't have an economy that worked in the interests of workers. | ||
| It had to work in the interest of capital. | ||
| In China, no free and democratic trade unions, 24-hour-a-day production, high returns, maximum returns. | ||
| All of our inheritance was invested in China. | ||
| And so basically privatisation is just a front for the colonisation of our country by hostile foreign powers. | ||
| And people understand it now. | ||
| They're really getting to understand it. | ||
| Same battle here as in America. | ||
| Legalism, legalism. | ||
| But on this case, the British state is good because the prime minister represents the king, one tiny act of parliament, and now British steel is nationalized and owned by the state, by the people. | ||
| And the economy can begin to work in the interests of people. | ||
| In the basic economic analysis coming out though, the way the Chinese have left British Steel today, it loses essentially a million pounds a day. | ||
| Is that the correct accounting? | ||
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Yeah, but this is the whole point with sovereignty, Steve. | |
| If you're incapable of building weapons, if you're incapable of defending yourself, if all you can do is go shopping. | ||
| You lose your sovereignty. | ||
| You lose your democracy. | ||
| You lose your liberty. | ||
| And this is what we're now waking up to. | ||
| And so this is part of a re-industrialization. | ||
| We are absolutely going down the same road as you're trying to go down. | ||
| So in this process of re-industrialization, the first step is to seize British steel from its Chinese owners, which, as you said, have gone out of their way to try to destroy it. | ||
| How does then Nigel and the Reform Party—you have these huge elections coming up, the local elections coming up in May, and people are saying, hey, if Nigel and the Reform Party do well, they could really be the challenge to the labor. | ||
| It won't be the Tories. | ||
| Nigel, and you know him very well. | ||
| He introduced me to you, and he speaks so highly. | ||
| He thinks you're one of the most brilliant men in all of the United Kingdom. | ||
| Nigel is a Thatcherite. | ||
| How does a Thatcherite that's leading a Reform Party— Actually sit there and say that this is a smart thing to do, sir. | ||
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This is what we call in England a reverse ferret. | |
| When a politician, you've seen it many times, just swings 180 degrees. | ||
| He's been Mr. Singapore on the Thames. | ||
| Now my party is rediscovering its soul, its working and its acting. | ||
| In the interests of workers, in the interests of producers, and really is putting the great priority on sovereignty and national defence. | ||
| At which point, Nigel Farage says, yeah, I believe in nationalisation. | ||
| You should see him. | ||
| Not just Steele, he wants now the nationalisation of water. | ||
| So bring it on. | ||
| The battle at the next election is blue labour versus reform. | ||
| And our inheritance and our whole identity is based on a political economy that works in the interests of people, not a profit. | ||
| You've had your establishment, whether it's Tory or Labour, like, for instance, David Cameron and Lord Mandelson and others, being the employee or very closely associated with the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| How is that going to play out of what your elites have done here to leave the working people in England in this shape? | ||
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Well, our elites, your elites, same elites. | |
| You know, people who absolutely... | ||
| You know, earlier I was listening to Natalie, we believe in this thing called the NGO industrial complex, which is just a web of what they call civil society organisations that are financed by capital, progressive capital. | ||
| There is a battle. | ||
| You live it every day and so do we, in order to have the real genuine interests and values of working class people represented, but they haven't been for 50 years. | ||
| We've lived, Steve and you, you and me have lived our whole lifetime. | ||
| With this incredible ideology that free markets were going to liberate the world. | ||
| Turned out it all worked out in the interest of the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Hegel called it the cunning of history. | ||
| But that's the truth of it. | ||
| Unbelievable. Lloyd Glassman, where do people go to find out more about this and more about what you're doing with blue labor? | ||
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Okay, just Google blue labor. | |
| It'll all come up. | ||
| It's all there. | ||
| Yeah, that's our Twitter. | ||
| We're really going hard on the grooming gangs at the moment. | ||
| That's very big for us. | ||
| Incredible. Thank you so much, sir. | ||
| Thank you for staying up late. | ||
| You can do the evening watch because Ben Harnwell, after he gets about 6 or 7 o'clock, he puts it in the skid. | ||
| So we have Ben in the morning from Rome. | ||
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In the same battle, Steve. | |
| It's great to see you. | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
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Great to see you. | |
| Thank you. | ||
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Yep. Go ahead, sir. | |
| No, please. | ||
| Just wishing you a blessed Easter. | ||
| Oh, thank you, sir. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| British Steel. | ||
| We're going to try to get Nigel on here to talk about this also. | ||
| These elections, these local elections in May, I think it's the 1st or 2nd of May, are going to decide whether the Reform Party overtakes Tories and it'll be Labour versus Reform. | ||
| Nigel Farage making huge headway, of course. | ||
| The economic situation of the United Kingdom kind of continues to deteriorate. | ||
| That's why the seizure of British steel from the Chinese is such a big deal. | ||
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Last also, they sealed up last 25 years. | |
| Wow. What are two hours, man? | ||
| Was that powerful and dramatic? | ||
| That mother sitting there and addressing the nation and CNN and MSNBC would not cover a second of it. | ||
| And you know why? | ||
| The blood is on their hands. | ||
| It's on the hands of those correspondents from those networks and stations and newspapers sitting in those rows before they would not ask her one question. | ||
| Think about that. | ||
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We'll see you tomorrow morning at 10 a.m. Eastern Daylight Time. |
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