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April 16, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4417: No Rule Of Law In The Jungle While Dealing With Russia
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eric prince
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glenn story
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
Because we're going medieval on these people.
I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
steve bannon
Okay, um, uh, Chris.
Icavela, what's going to happen if we delist the Chinese companies that don't do a proper accounting or over here doing espionage?
All of them.
Eric Prince joins us.
If they're doing all of the above, what's going to happen if we delist these?
unidentified
Well, we're going to cut off the flow of capital to an adversary.
And I think that's what we need to do.
We cannot continue to fund our own destruction.
It makes no sense.
steve bannon
Okay, but, okay, I got that.
I agree with that.
However... Let me bring up an unpleasant fact.
The pension funds, Wall Street put institutional money in all these companies.
This is just not America.
So if you delist them and they drop in value by 50% and then people's pension funds have gone down, what do we do then?
unidentified
Well, they can reinvest that money into United States companies that actually comply with the rule of law that have good financials and that stimulate economic growth and job creation here.
And what we just talked about in the last segment was that you're trying to bring the manufacturing base back here through this reorganization of the international world order.
And so the capital will flow.
It won't flow out.
It will stay in.
And I think that's the purpose of the president's policies.
steve bannon
How
I'm going to ask Princess in a second after you bounce, Chris.
Saying we're going to put in additional licensing by the government on the NVIDIA 20 chip.
How escalatory in your opinion is that, sir?
unidentified
I think it's necessary.
Those chips are going to allow our enemy to build up a military that's capable of rivaling us.
And we cannot have that.
That's the whole point of...
Putting sanctions on the quantum computing capabilities, the semiconductors and all the technology and military-industrial complex over there.
And that's what we're doing.
That's why I testified last week that that's got to stop.
steve bannon
Chris, where do people go to get your testimony, your site, your social media?
You're putting out great stuff all the time on this fight.
You've been with us fighting this thing for 20 years.
Where do people go?
unidentified
Thanks. It's at Amer Securities.
steve bannon
Is that your social media also?
That's where you go?
That's on Twitter and all of it?
unidentified
Yes. Thank you, brother.
steve bannon
Thank you for having me, Steve.
unidentified
Happy Easter.
steve bannon
Thank you, sir.
Eric Prince.
Look who's in the neighborhood.
This is why I came back.
Mr. Bannon's neighborhood.
Mr. Rogers' neighborhood.
What a perfect day for you to come back.
Let's start.
With Chris, I understand, but if you do, I'm all for delisting.
Here's the issue for the audience.
Start thinking this through.
It's quite, when we talk about decoupling, and we're in a bargain right now, we talk about decoupling, it gets quite complicated because they've been at this for 25 years.
They have also, the Chinese Communist Party ain't going down without a fight.
And here's why they're not going down without a fight.
Let me, remember Romania in the Christmas of 1989, was it?
Ceausescu. Ceausescu fell.
And he goes out to the thing, he gives a big speech, and half the crowd's booing, and he and the wife do the hightail.
It was 48 hours later, they had him stood up against the wall, and here's where I admire the wife.
She told the guys when the guns were right, go F yourself, right?
And they took boom.
The Chinese Communist Party understand their end's not going to come well, right?
eric prince
It's not going to end with a feather duster.
steve bannon
It's not going to end with a feather duster.
So they're dug in, right?
Sure. And they've planned on this for 20, 25 years.
This is why they've cut us off from rare earths as you've...
I had Eric Prince on Breitbart Radio.
It's got to be 10, 12 years ago.
eric prince
12 years ago.
steve bannon
12 years talking about rare earths.
Yep. Right?
Talking about rare earths and talking about how important rare earths were.
In fact, at that time, I think they were cutting off Japan.
They had a, it was a thing about the East China Sea.
Yep. About fishing vessels.
Islands. Islands and fishing vessels.
The Chinese had, all their fishing vessels are spy vessels, so the Japanese said, hey, look, it'd be nice if these guys weren't here.
They had a thing, and they threatened to cut, they threatened to cut them off with rare earths.
Back then, and that got to be a huge deal back then.
So we've been at this.
Now the cutting is off from magnets.
The cutting is off from ball bearings.
I tell people, ball bearings, 12 o'clock high, our movie, right, the war movie, is all about kids doing precision daylight bombing.
Not at nighttime like the Brits did, but higher casualties, daylight bombing, to take at the ball bearing factories in the Ruhr Valley.
Ball bearings are central to a military machine and to an industrial machine.
So we just announced...
That we're cutting them out with additional licensing for the NVIDIA.
eric prince
Totally appropriate.
Why? The first strategic offset after we had a standoff with the Soviet Union after World War II was nuclear strike.
We had it, then they got it, then it became a big contest of who could throw more tons.
Then it became precision strike.
steve bannon
Oh, by the way, let me be blunt.
Just like today, the $30 trillion of intellectual property that we either gave or the Chinese stole was the reason the Russians had the nuke.
Not that they didn't have the theory.
They had tons of theoretician physicists.
unidentified
They stole it.
steve bannon
They stole it and or given to them, right?
The Rosenbergs later went to their just reward because they gave them on the hydrogen bomb.
But the same way the Bolsheviks actually accessed technology from the United States of America.
A lot of this made by foreigners who had come here, particularly the Russian theoretical physicists.
eric prince
First precision strike stuff started in Vietnam.
Obviously, we got good at it in the 80s.
In the 90s, you saw that in Gulf War I and Gulf War II.
steve bannon
Unrestricted warfare came from that.
The Chinese Communist Party, these colonels, looked at Schwarzkopf and all these things on precision munitions, and they came to the conclusion, foreign devils will always lead battlefield, and they're crazy, and they don't mind pulling up alongside like now.
And unsheat the guns.
Let's go back to Sun Tzu.
We've got to do something different, right?
eric prince
Yes. We proud Lawe.
Exactly. Precision strike, then it became pervasive.
Now everyone has it.
Everyone from ISIS had it, and Ukrainian hobbyists, and so you see the acceleration of that.
Hamas? Hamas, sure.
So it's pervasive, it's everywhere, it's cheap.
So the next strategic offset, the next real competition is at the AI edge.
And so the NVIDIA servers processing units are effectively the brain matter of that AI.
So yeah, it's appropriate.
The Chinese are trying to, I know this personally, the Chinese are actively trying to steal from the leading companies which makes those high-speed servers because they don't make them.
steve bannon
Well, they don't make any advanced technology they have to steal.
Because they can replicate well, but they have not been able to create well, even with DeepSeq.
I'm not saying we should not do that.
First off, cut them off from the 100%, 100%.
Then put the license in to cut them off from this.
My point is, on the strategic side, is this not equivalent?
And maybe I'm overplaying this.
Is this not equivalent of cutting off the Japanese of oil in August of 1941?
Did we just do that?
Inquiring minds want to know.
eric prince
No, I don't think it's as severe.
It's not a full-on – because we're not – look, because the Chinese import still 75, 80 percent of their hydrocarbons.
We haven't blockaded the Straits of Malacca or cut off the – Well, you weren't here for the early part of the show.
steve bannon
I want to do that with the Persians.
We don't have a bombing run.
You don't have all this controversy over the Pentagon right now.
Bebe showing up every two weeks.
Hey, I'm just here to talk about – oh, by the way, I want to convince you to back our bombing run in Persia.
We can't do that.
The damage – The damage on a military strike would suck us into another war.
They ship 2 million barrels a day.
Nobody talks about this.
They just say 1.6.
That's a lie.
They got all kind of fake ships out there.
They ship 2 million barrels a day through the Straits of Hormuz.
Yep. Right?
Through Malacca.
eric prince
Around India.
steve bannon
Around India.
Diego Garcia.
I'm just naming some strategic points you may be hearing about here.
Just like in the 1930s, nobody was focused on Wake Island or nobody was focused on the Solomons or Guadalcanal, but they became big news stories years later right down Diego Garcia, right?
So if we cut the Persians off from the 2 million barrels a day by having the Navy, instead of being the Red Sea, keeping the Suez Canal open, maybe we just take one of our two battle groups and put it over in the North Arabian Sea and say, hey, no, and tell the Chinese,
you don't get any oil from the Persians.
Tell the Persians, this is what an economic blockade looks like, and we don't want to verify your system.
We're not in the verification business.
That's JCPOA.
I want to go in with Americans, and we're going to take it apart brick by brick.
eric prince
Here's the easy button to do that.
There are multiple U.S. plaintiffs that have been damaged to the tune of billions of dollars, have been awarded billions of dollars of damage against the Iranian state.
steve bannon
Well, this is the 1983 families, isn't it?
Part of it, that's the families.
The Marine Barracks families in 1983, those servicemen that gave their lives, their families actually have been awarded in a court the ability to get billions of dollars or assets, right?
eric prince
Yes. And the crude that is on those Iranian government-owned vessels rounding India are all subject to being taken by a privateer who is enforcing a judgment in the United States.
So the U.S. Navy doesn't even have to be involved.
steve bannon
Say the word.
eric prince
It'll be done by 10 days.
steve bannon
This is why Eric Prince is one of my best buddies.
I love this guy.
He's here in War Room, and not even through his first segment.
He's already making a pitch.
He's pitching business.
This is his letter.
Hold it.
President Trump, if you're going to watch the clip, Natalie Harvey, get the clip here later.
Here's the pitch.
He needs a letter of Mark.
He's a pirate anyway.
He needs a letter of Mark.
You're back to the British Empire.
You're Francis Drake.
eric prince
Francis Drake is a badass.
I would love to be Francis Drake.
steve bannon
You're the Francis Drake of America.
You need a letter of Mark.
Hey, Marco Rubio.
eric prince
Article 1, Section 8. Having gone through the whole American Revolution, the Founding Fathers said, Congress shall have the ability to enter a letter of Mark before they even talk about raising a Navy or an Army.
So, yes.
steve bannon
That's how the British Crown did it, right?
They had the Royal Navy, but hey, the privateers, as they called them, the guys taking 2020...
eric prince
If you want to jam up the Iranians, that's how to do it.
steve bannon
So, first off, let's talk about that.
You're saying right now, if you were issued a letter of Mark...
Folks, this is not crazy talk because we're living in uncertain times.
This is a way to actually solve it.
If you want to make the world a safer place right now, it's quite simple.
Make sure that you cut off China from energy, right?
And you make sure that the Persians aren't able to monetize their carbon resources.
Correct? Correct.
We're not really at economic war with the Persians right now.
It's all patty cake.
They have assets all over the place.
West End of London, Midtown Manhattan.
They got real assets.
They got cash assets.
They got assets in banks.
eric prince
Hundreds of billions in Dubai.
steve bannon
Hundreds of billions in Dubai.
Think about it.
In Ukraine, the crazed Democrats in this Ukraine thing, they treated the Russians and the Russian Central Bank a hundred times worse than each other.
We've actually taken not just the interest off the assets, we seized the assets, not just to keep it from them, they're monetizing them.
This is why President Trump keeps saying, hey, the Europeans just lent the money.
What they've done is taken the Russian assets and the European banks and essentially monetized it to give the money to Ukrainians.
We haven't done any, I just want to make sure, we haven't done nearly anything like that against the Persians, correct?
eric prince
The Europeans have been buying gas from the Russians the whole time.
steve bannon
100%, Germany.
Yeah. Yeah.
This whole phony thing.
We're giving $350 billion.
Okay. You're saying right now, as a privateer, you can take Iranian vessels, not vessels from, not all the guys that are under the flags of the Central American countries or that.
If you're under another flag, you can't do it.
But anything's under Iranian flag, a vessel.
eric prince
Yes, sir.
steve bannon
You can take that.
Eric Prince's first pitch in the A block.
That's his first.
But it would stop it.
The other thing, You see, being a naval officer, we've got to deal with the pirates.
This is like the Royal Navy.
eric prince
John Paul Jones, founder of the U.S. Navy, privateer.
Buried at the Naval Academy.
I think he's buried in vodka in the basement of the Naval Academy Chapel.
Exactly. John Paul Jones.
steve bannon
Later actually worked as a man of a mercenary.
Some people actually have said that Eric Prince might be.
eric prince
For the Russian Navy.
steve bannon
The world's most prominent mercenary.
Eric Prince is it.
Okay, but the United States Navy, if we just got the order, you could blockade in, you could stop every vessel of any flag from coming to the streets of Hormuz and say, guys, turn it around.
It ain't going anywhere.
You would bring the mullahs in Tehran to their knees in 90 days.
You would have the people themselves would overthrow it.
I'm not saying I'm for a regime change.
I'm for whatever the people want.
If they're hungry and they get two million barrels a day, don't let anybody lie to you, that's what's going to China.
And that's keeping China.
That's 20% of China's deal.
Short commercial break.
Eric Prince is in the house.
He's made pitch number one.
I think we've got two or three more.
Hell, we haven't gotten to Central America yet, the big one.
You're on the front page of the New York Times every day.
MSNBC's heads blown.
Rachel Maddow, here's your clip for tonight.
Eric Prince pitching business in the war room.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
Yeah.
steve bannon
By the way, the war room engine room, the posse engine room is informing me that first in the scale of the cap table, the vessel's got to be seized right away after the Chinese have paid for it.
Bill of Layden has got to be Chinese money for COVID reparations.
That's something I don't hear anything about.
COVID reparations for the biological weapon.
They've got a biological warfare out of Wuhan, and they've got chemical warfare in the second Opium War coming through fentanyl.
They've got to pay for it all.
If we're not prepared to do that, we're not a country.
We're not serious.
We have unserious people.
Look at that group at CNBC today, yammering like they're freshmen in college, like some group grope in a dorm, just sitting around with the most immature way you could talk about serious issues.
Eric Prince, Francis Drake.
eric prince
Francis Drake was a Mariner.
Privateer, extraordinary guy.
There was obviously big conflict between the British Empire and the Spanish realm.
And he sailed all the way from Portsmouth all the way to the southern tip of Argentina, raiding Spanish gold ships.
He sailed around the southern tip of South America, which is the most violent sea in the world.
It's now called the Drake Passage.
40-foot, 50-foot seas.
Sails up the west side to the Chile side.
He trades more gold ships.
He's so heavily laden, he can't go back through those seas.
So he sails west, all the way around the rest of the world, around Africa.
Circumnavigates. Circumnavigates, fully loaded with gold, takes so much gold back to England that allows them to go on the gold standard.
steve bannon
That shows you how much you do not, what's called the Roaring Forties, you do not want to go around South America.
Correct. Down by Antarctica.
That is bad sea duty.
A really bad-ass guy.
Talk about another.
Glenn Story, you joined us today, sir.
Patriot Mobile.
I keep telling people we don't need to talk about all the great work you do.
I gave a speech in Greenville, South Carolina to amazing patriots that have taken back their county precinct strategy.
They're going to the state, and I use Tarrant County.
You were so great to get us down to Denton and to Tarrant County, but Tarrant County is the example for the whole country.
What do you got for us today?
glenn story
Well, we got a lot brewing, but before I get going, I just want to say hi to Eric.
I love him.
I've even got something that he may like here.
It's called the Up Phone.
Eric, have you ever heard of it?
eric prince
I have.
Yeah, well, it's...
steve bannon
Why is that phone so special?
Why is that phone so special?
glenn story
You know, I'm going to let the gentleman sit there and tell you what's so special about it.
He knows better than all of us.
eric prince
Look, we started it after the election was stolen from President Trump and Big Tech was...
steve bannon
Was the election stolen?
eric prince
Yes, it was.
steve bannon
No doubt in your mind.
eric prince
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.
Big Tech has entirely too much control in surveillance capitalism, so we built a phone that's the antidote to that, which does not collect your data and export your data in an era...
steve bannon
What is surveillance capitalism?
eric prince
The reason Google is so valuable, the reason that Google pays $17 billion a year to Apple just so that the Google search engine is the first one on an iPhone, okay?
So why does Google do that?
To collect and harvest all your data, where you go, who you call, what you buy, what you browse, and they sell your data.
And you consent to it.
And it makes it possible for you to be targeted for advertising.
Now in an era of AI, now the algorithm is building up more and more of your digital profile.
And it's scary.
The average kid in America, by the time they reach the age of 13, has 72 million data points collected on them.
So the unplugged phone prevents that because it doesn't have an ad ID.
The phone at the root level blocks the export of all your stuff.
So it lets you communicate and be in the world, but not of the world.
steve bannon
Amazing. Glenn's story, sir.
glenn story
Yeah, well, all I want to say is, look, we sell them, we activate them on any of our networks.
unidentified
We support him.
glenn story
We love this phone.
Anyway, we got a lot brewing here in Texas, and in particular, you know, the greatest attorney general is now running for John Cornyn's seat, and I wish him he's going to do well.
unidentified
There'll be a giant, giant battle.
glenn story
All his money's on the left, and the rhinos will go against him, because you know as well as I do, he is a great attorney general and sued the country for breaking the Constitution a number of times, and, you know, it's a bad thing.
Battle for his seat as well.
You look at a couple of good guys.
unidentified
You've got Mitch Little, which just was selected down in the state house.
glenn story
And then you've got a guy named Aaron Wright that, you know, there's rumors swirling around about him going.
And he would be a great candidate, too.
You know, he worked under the Ken Paxton regime for six years.
And, you know, he's been with Ted Cruz for a number of years as well.
So he's a right-wing MAGA guy as well.
So that'll be a good battle.
unidentified
And then you've got the John Bash guy that came in or announced just recently.
glenn story
You know, I know we've got two really good ones in terms of Aaron and Mitch.
And so that's a real battle, too.
But you guys got to keep your eye on it.
steve bannon
By the way, John Bash, I believe, was at the White House Counsel's Office also for President Trump in the first term.
glenn story
That's right.
steve bannon
John Bash, good man.
Tell the people right now, how can they switch over?
One of my concerns is that everybody knows what a great company you are and patriotic and support, you know, Second Amendment, first responders, all that.
This issue is now about switching.
You've got the three primary carriers.
You offer all these specials.
You can get two phone numbers.
Give us your pitch because I want people to understand they can make this switch and make it ASAP.
glenn story
Steve, you're right.
Everybody knows all the good stuff we do.
unidentified
They see that we're activists.
glenn story
We're not out there just playing or talking.
We really walk the talk.
The switch is really, really easy.
You can call 972-PATRIOT or patriotmobile.com forward slash Bannon.
But, look, you get to keep your number.
If you have service today, you'll have service with us.
Here's what you really know.
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So, look, switching to Patriot Mobile is easy.
Call us.
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unidentified
If you need a new phone, we can ship it.
Any phone, you know, we'll ship you this incredibly odd phone or a Samsung or Apple.
Whatever you want, we support it.
But here's one real, one beautiful thing.
glenn story
You can keep, not only can you keep your number, but we can put multiple networks on a single phone.
Meaning, hey, if you travel a lot, let's say one network doesn't work as well in Southern California and in New York.
Look, we can put two lines on one number.
I mean, two numbers on one phone, and it works flawlessly.
And Steve, I think your team's on it.
We love that.
We have a lot of customers, all the way up to several thousand lines with one company.
steve bannon
No. By the way, the Warren Posse absolutely loves it.
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Glenn, thank you so much.
We're going to have you on updates on General Paxton running for the Senate.
It's going to be the fight of all fights in that primary.
But we also got to get a great...
I mean, the reason people are like, oh my God, is that Paxton is such a great Attorney General.
Now we got to fill that bill.
It's imperative that we get somebody as good as Ken Paxton in there as AG in the great state of Texas.
Amen. Thank you very much, sir.
Appreciate you, bro.
glenn story
Have a blessed day.
Thank you, guys.
steve bannon
Patriot Mobile.
Go check it out today.
Okay, mass deportations.
We're getting lit up every day.
They're getting criminals and stuff like that, but the mass deportation part has not started.
If I believe the New York Times and MSNBC, you're actually proposing to...
Because right now, DHS doesn't have that because Biden gutted it all.
They don't have the infrastructure.
And the $170 billion is not coming yet.
What are you actually proposing?
Because if I read the New York Times and I listen to MSNBC, you're the great devil that's trying to ship everybody down to a prison somewhere.
eric prince
Well, I visited El Salvador Seacott Prison back in September, long before the election, and came away from that saying President Trump's campaigning on a deportation strategy, a promise, a valid promise because,
you know, there's talk.
15, 20 million people have entered the country illegally.
And they need to leave.
So some are going to voluntarily deport, but most are not.
So how do you do that at industrial scale?
And that requires significantly more resources than the government has.
And especially when, you know, some bureaucrats want to do the job and step up, but a lot of them don't.
And so if President Trump...
steve bannon
So the deep state and the administrative state are still there fighting Trump every day inside DHS and other places?
eric prince
Sure. Sure.
And so if his plan is to say I'm going to only depend on federal agencies to do this, then he's going to get to the midterms with poultry numbers, with numbers that are probably behind even what Biden's were.
And I don't think that's what he wants.
That's certainly not what he campaigned on.
So we gave them, broke it down because this is a math issue.
How do you find?
How do you locate and prove?
steve bannon
Do you triage first with the criminals or do you go right to the mass deportations?
eric prince
Triage first with the people that have the final deportation orders already done because they've committed crimes and they should have been deported years ago.
Find them, apprehend them.
steve bannon
That's a million one.
eric prince
No, it's like a million six.
steve bannon
A million six.
So that's a big number.
eric prince
It's a huge number.
steve bannon
So a million six have final deportation orders, right?
And they should be out of the country.
eric prince
That's the easy button.
And that's 10% of what you're trying to get to.
If you do apprehend them, the people that don't have final deportation orders are...
Entitled to some kind of a hearing, an administrative law procedure.
steve bannon
But you can quick march in.
eric prince
You can do that at scale.
steve bannon
You get a scale.
You do that scale right at the border.
eric prince
Football stadiums.
steve bannon
Yes. Okay.
eric prince
And then...
steve bannon
How are we doing football stadiums?
I want MSNBC's head to blow up tonight.
How are we doing football stadiums?
Just get them on 70,000 people.
eric prince
We can advertise.
You can effectively deputize administrative law judges to have that hearing.
steve bannon
If you have a sense of urgency, you can do it.
Yes. Let me go back.
I want to go down the scale because I want to get to the mass deportations.
But I tell you what, let's take a break.
I want to come back.
I want to start with the 1.6 million.
The 1.6 million would encompass all the criminal element plus other people here that do have a leave order and are breaking the law by remaining here.
eric prince
Yes. That's more than 1.6.
steve bannon
Okay, fine.
We'll get into that in a second, too.
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unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
steve bannon
Because President Trump's out today, he's up on Axios.
I will get to that this afternoon when we have time.
He's talking about they're going to, you know...
I think it's being misinterpreted what he said.
But mass deportations, the audience is getting worked up that there's not mass deportations.
They promised mass deportations.
They voted for mass deportations.
We understand this is the left's.
This is what they're striking on.
1.6 million, just to go back to the math, have a...
Final deportation order.
eric prince
They must leave.
steve bannon
They must leave.
eric prince
And they're just on the run in society right now.
steve bannon
First of all, do you need ICE to help apprehend them?
Your proposal that's so controversial, you put it forward, it says what?
eric prince
It's not controversial.
It's just maximizing the resources of...
Other government resources.
You have thousands of sheriffs in America that can be motivated.
steve bannon
And they volunteer for this.
We've had sheriffs on here, so they should be the striking arm of this.
eric prince
Yes, because they're elected.
steve bannon
Why are we not doing that?
Why are Tom Homan and these guys not asking for that?
eric prince
I think they're trying to get their legs, but I think they'll come around.
ICE is out of capacity, so they're going to have to pivot to using other private sector resources, whether it's County jails under the purview of county sheriffs.
steve bannon
Well, that's public.
That's not private.
That's public.
Just not federal.
eric prince
Not federal.
unidentified
Fair. So you're saying local sheriffs, local jails?
eric prince
Our concept included building holding camps next to large airfields.
So as people are apprehended...
steve bannon
Put them around the plane.
eric prince
Put them on the plane.
And the cost of our program was like 85% aircraft because it's costly.
I think our...
Our program was like $26 billion.
Think about the illegal criminal profit that was made by the cartels for smuggling people into America over these last years, because it's all about a logistics issue.
And if the Trump administration wants to hit anything close to the numbers that they promised, they have to rally and let the private sector do what it does best.
steve bannon
In your proposal of the 1.6, what's the total number that you've proposed?
eric prince
Oh, I think we were at a scale to do 15 million.
steve bannon
Not 15 million dollars.
eric prince
No, 15 million people.
steve bannon
Yeah, but I'm saying, we'll set that aside for later.
Here's my point.
If we don't get the 1.6 out of the final orders, you're not going to get the rest.
eric prince
It's a hose with a valve.
You turn it on, you can go fast, or you can turn it off.
steve bannon
If people were to engage you to say, I want the 1.6 million out as soon as possible, what is the cost of that?
Roughly. Round up to the closest billion.
eric prince
It's a few billion.
steve bannon
That's it?
eric prince
Yeah, it's not terrible.
steve bannon
And then if you were to get that contract, or a group of companies like yourself would get that contract and work with Holman and Kristi Noem, what could you tell the American people and the president?
It would take us how long to do that?
A year?
Two years?
eric prince
I think we could do it by the midterm.
steve bannon
You think in 18 months, are people taking this proposal seriously?
eric prince
I tend to not people, Steve.
steve bannon
Okay, good.
I think that.
Eric Prince is a serious guy.
I want to get to the other masters in a second, but we've got Leo Smirnoff joins us now.
Leo, let's tee this up first.
Sure. Why is he important?
Why is he on the war room?
eric prince
President Trump campaigned on supporting American business, and I heard about Leo's story.
An immigrant came to America, became an American citizen in the mid-80s.
Built a business.
He's originally from Russia.
Built a business in Russia in late, I think started in 99. He basically is the Campbell Soup of Russia called Glove Product.
And because of no fault of his own, because of this stupid war, the Russian government and Russian-enabled gangsters are basically seizing control of his business.
And expropriating it.
And if President Trump campaigned on America first policies, then American businesses should be the priority, not even the Ukrainian border.
And so I just hope that Steve Witkoff and President Trump take it as a priority to stick up for Americans.
And I wanted to be on because I have also had all guns pointed at me and not many people were lending a hand.
Other than you.
And so I think I wanted him to come on to say, yeah, I built this business.
I did the American dream.
And so the government should help.
steve bannon
Here's the reality.
You built a business.
You're from Russia.
You built a business back there.
But, you know, it shouldn't be lost.
And you're a sophisticated guy.
Hell, you came from there.
You know the KGB runs the deal.
This is like somebody saying in Shanghai, hey, the CCP sees my business.
Isn't it a tough break for a swell guy, sir?
unidentified
Yes. When I started this business in 1999, it was different.
It was different.
We all believed that it was a free world now and everybody was coming in, European, Americans.
It was great.
And at least on the surface, it was free.
Free enterprise, free everything.
You can do many things.
Everything was accepted so well.
That's why thousands and thousands of companies came in.
All the brands in the world, all the American brands, European brands, big companies.
And some of the American companies still there, big companies like Mars and PepsiCo and American Tobacco and Philip Morris and many, many others.
And nobody expects that.
Something happened, what happened?
We did not know that.
And since me, my business is three factories, thousand people.
It's not something, take it and pack it and go, okay?
I was investing that and I was building that for 26 years of my life.
And that was unexpected.
And this war, who would have dreamed?
Who would have dreamed?
That Russia will fight war with Ukraine.
It's like Texas fighting Alabama or something like that.
And we didn't expect that.
But that happened.
And to be honest with you, I have been a Republican for a very long time.
I voted for President Trump three times.
Every time he ran, I voted for him.
I gotta tell you, I believe what he's saying, that this war can be avoided.
Because somebody...
steve bannon
But hang on one second.
Explain to the American people right now, because we haven't had an opportunity to have a lot of Russians on here.
Why do you say the Russian-Ukraine war is like Texas invading Alabama?
Why do you say that?
What do you mean by that?
unidentified
Because it's Slavic people.
They all speak the same language.
It used to be one country.
Everybody, Russians have relatives in Ukraine.
Ukraine have relatives in Russia.
I mean, it's so interconnected.
It's like, that's why I give this as an example.
eric prince
It matters because it is in the interest of the United States to pull Russia away from the orbit of China.
Exactly. Going forward, once this war is settled, we need to have commercial relations with Russia.
And if the track record of any American that's gone and invested there is getting his business smashed by the gangster end of the Russian party.
steve bannon
Okay, but this is like World War II.
You're dealing with Stalin, a Bolshevik.
Okay, you know exactly what you're getting there.
If you, in these negotiations with Wyckoff and the president, and look, I'm empathetic to this guy's plight, but here's what they're going to say.
You're going to have no say-so.
You think Putin's going to sit there and go, you're going to tell me how to run my country if we're going to do some sort of rapprochement and settle the fight between Texas and Alabama?
I'm going to settle that, guns down.
But you're going to tell me, you're going to tell that criminal clique in Moscow that they're not angels.
We know they're not angels.
They've done a tough deal.
It's like when we dealt with Joseph Stalin.
We understood he was a bad guy, okay?
But at the time, strategically, right, we need that.
And with the Orthodox Church and everything you can do and how much I think below the surface they are part of the Judeo-Christian West.
I don't know.
Leo, you tell me.
These are a group of thugs.
I've never said that they're anything but.
The guys that run this deal are thugs.
They're going to take this guy's business and say, hey, what are you going to say about it?
You're going to say nothing about it.
Right? Is there a criminal element that runs Moscow or not, sir?
unidentified
Well, Criminal elements.
It's a difficult question.
Are you talking about Kremlin?
Are you talking about proxy?
Are you talking about people?
steve bannon
I'm talking about the KGB.
I'm talking about the guys in power in the Kremlin.
The people, the Wyckoff and the president across the negotiating table.
These are not angels.
These are not Jeffersonian Democrats.
Just like Stalin.
We know that they're bad.
Unfortunately, the tragedy of the Russian people is that they've been ruled from the czars to the Bolsheviks to the KGB by not good guys.
The Romanovs were terrible.
Everybody said, no, the Romanovs, they were awful people, and they did awful things to the Russian people.
The Bolsheviks were as bad as the Nazis, and the KGB, they're slightly better.
But, man, they're thugs.
Let's understand.
We're trying to cut a deal on a rapprochement to take away from China a bigger group of criminals, but this is not a group.
We're not going to look in Putin's eyes like Bush and see an evangelical Christian.
That's not going to happen.
eric prince
Of course not.
But if there's going to be any kind of commercial relations or...
Or trade with Russia going forward, there has to be some semblance of rule of law some of the time.
And the point being...
steve bannon
Well, he just said, Leo just said, Mars and Pepsi, it's the rule of law of the jungle and the bigger to survive.
Because Pepsi and Mars and American tobacco and those guys clearly either have deals, understandings, or whatever.
unidentified
I will give you a good example.
It was a company called Ariston, part of Bush.
They were given temporary government management, which in reality is expropriation.
And the Italian government got involved and they talked to Russia and they told them to slow down and give the company back.
And as a result, it just recently happened, maybe less than a month ago.
As a result, the company was given back to Italian stockholders.
steve bannon
Just a month ago.
You're the Campbell Soup of Russia.
Have they seized your company, or are they just making it harder for you to run your company there as a business?
unidentified
The way it goes, first, it's a decree.
It's called temporary management.
In reality, in reality, in reality, they take over your company.
Right. That's permanent temporary management.
And the second step, second step, second step, they bring the prosecutor general who will find, like, for example, they accused me, they just opened a lawsuit against me and my American company, and they accused me in united,
uniting with the U.S. government to cause strategical defeat of Russian Federation.
That's in the prosecution language.
Okay? So, I would like to see...
steve bannon
With that charge over your head, I would not be going to Moscow anytime soon.
That sounds like a gulag.
You lose that one, you go to a gulag, right?
unidentified
That just happened.
My first hearing is on Friday.
And the prosecution general...
Demanding final confiscation of the company, company with the three factories and 1,000 people and so on and so forth.
And I think, I think, and you understand, I don't know if you know that, after this war started and after the sanctions which was placed on Russia by the United States and the European Union, It was anti-sanctions.
And after that, in 23, Putin said, well, you know, we're going to find everything that belongs to the United States, regardless if it's a state property or it's a private property, we're going to take it all.
steve bannon
Leo, hang on for one second.
We're just going to go to commercial break.
But this is Tick for Tack.
unidentified
We seized their bank holdings.
steve bannon
But Putin and these guys...
eric prince
Seize, but haven't dispersed them.
They maybe arrested them.
steve bannon
Leo, hang over for a second.
We'll take a short commercial break.
We'll be back in a moment.
unidentified
Stephen K. Mann.
steve bannon
Leo, you've got tons of articles up on Breitbart and New York Post.
We're going to make sure everybody gets them.
We'll get up to speed of this, and then we'll have you back.
Do you have social media?
No website or social media right now?
unidentified
I don't have that, but I do have a message for President Trump, I'd like to say.
Okay. Yep.
I would like to ask President Trump to get involved and protect American business in Russia.
And to show everybody that American business is protected and that's why I vote for him.
Everything is for America.
Make America great again.
Not only here, but everywhere else with American business and American people doing business.
And I think if he will put his mind to it, he will be very successful.
As a matter of fact, during the interview with Brembart, he said that he did not know about it, but if he would have known about it, Putin would be generous.
steve bannon
My recommendation to help you is you've got to get a website.
You've got to get some social media people.
You've got to get all these.
It's not real until people know about it.
And just coming on here, you've got to get a website.
You've had great articles.
Breitbart, Sirius, New York Post.
Put them up.
And then he should know about it.
The way he's going to know about it is get it out into the media.
Leo, we'll talk to you.
I'll talk to Eric and we'll talk to you afterwards.
Thank you for coming on.
I appreciate it.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
The underpinning of the Russian Rapprochement is going to be some sort of economic, particularly around energy.
Just throwing a random thing out there.
Energy. What does Russia need?
unidentified
Because these guys, let's be honest.
steve bannon
The KGB took power in Russia, and these are hard dudes.
President Trump, this negotiation right now is a hard, tough negotiation, the rapprochement, right?
And it's going to be tough.
That's why he's got Wyckoff and the president, and the president is the kind of guy that can stand up at the Chinese Communist Party, is the kind of guy to deal with the Russians, the kind of guy to deal with the Persians.
That's why he's commander-in-chief.
eric prince
And Putin is not even the hardest core end of the spectrum.
steve bannon
Exactly. By the way, this is what I keep saying with Xi.
Don't expect Xi to make a phone call, because Xi is going to make a phone call and say, I'm ready to talk.
She's going to be gone, okay?
They got harder guys in China than she, and they got harder guys in Moscow.
eric prince
Extreme Russian nationalists that we really don't want to deal with.
steve bannon
They'll just say, screw the United States, right?
eric prince
Which is why enforcing the rule of law, even trying to get a rule of law to flourish in any way in Russia is important, thus the Leo story.
Good luck.
steve bannon
Let's do the rapprochement of the deal first.
It's a lawless group of gangsters.
You have to understand that.
eric prince
You're not going soft on me.
steve bannon
I've got Eric Prince, the world's top.
Okay, let's hit back.
You're Francis Drake.
Give me Francis Drake.
Don't give me the soft rule of law.
eric prince
The Russians need U.S. technology to stimulate their oil fields.
Otherwise they're going to diminish production.
And pipeline technology, fracking, all of that.
Second, I think there's 800 gigatons of greenhouse gases released every year.
Human input from that is 80. So the simplest way to...
if people are actually worried about climate change, the simplest paths...
steve bannon
We're not...
eric prince
Fine. Okay.
But as a way, as the ninja move for the left to shut them up...
steve bannon
Right. Screw the left.
I don't want to waste time with that.
Tell me the technology Russia needs to get those fields and integrate Western Europe.
Because they're still buying the gas anyway.
eric prince
So the reason the United States is energy independent is because of Texas independent small and medium drillers and frackers and pipeline people.
That is what's massively expanded that production.
steve bannon
Landman. Exactly.
eric prince
That technology, badly needed in Russia, forbidden now because of the stupid war, and it ties us together in the oil and gas space.
steve bannon
I don't have enough time because I want to do true to the story.
But you're going to come back.
I'm going to either do it by Skype.
Where are you tomorrow?
Can I get you on Skype tomorrow?
No, I can't get you.
eric prince
Yeah, I can be in person.
steve bannon
Okay, let me figure it out.
I've got to tell that story about...
Lexington and Concord.
And I don't have time to tell it now.
eric prince
I can do it right now.
steve bannon
Okay, hit it.
eric prince
Since our president is 78 years old, the morning of Lexington and Concord...
steve bannon
19 April.
eric prince
19 April, as the British are heading there, Samuel Whitmore, a...
French and Indian War veteran, 78 years old, hears the British going by.
He says, not today.
He grabs his two dueling pistols that he'd taken off a dead French officer and his musket heads out and single-handedly attacks a British unit going by, killing three British soldiers.
They then turn on him, of course, and they shoot him in the face and they bayonet him six times as he was drawing his sword, which didn't require reloading.
When the Patriots found him an hour later, he was covered in blood and trying to reload, and he survived.
He lived for another 18 years.
And when he finally died at the ripe old age of 96, his 10 children and 100-some grandchildren and descendants gathered around to say goodbye.
So I just think it's fitting since he was 78, Trump was 78. It's a great point that you are never too old to be out of the fight.
That is the grit that made America.
steve bannon
That is what made America.
Take what I love is you take the weapons you got from the French and Indian War when you were younger.
eric prince
You take what you got and you deploy it.
steve bannon
And go right at it.
Go to the gunfire.
Eric Prince.
eric prince
Cheers, man.
steve bannon
The Francis Drake.
Don't get soft on me, Prince.
You're Francis Drake.
I'm going to give you that letter of Mark.
I love this.
I'm going to call Johnson this afternoon.
We'll call his office and say, hey, can you issue a letter of Mark?
Can you issue the Speaker of the House a letter of Mark to Eric Princeton?
We'll be turning around vessels and taking oil and stopping the CCP and shutting down mullahs.
eric prince
I know a few seals.
We know how to board ships.
steve bannon
Where do they go to get your podcast?
eric prince
Off Leash with Eric Prince.
And on Twitter, I'm Real Eric D. Prince.
steve bannon
Real Eric Prince.
I'll talk to you about the phones later.
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