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Jan. 7, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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WarRoom Battleground EP 680: The New World Order
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ben harnwell
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I am absolutely livid about this because Donald Trump was put into office by millions and millions of Americans who were Democrats two years ago, five years ago, 10 years ago, 30 years ago, over one campaign promise.
and it was to significantly limit immigration, both legal and illegal, because of course, both legal and illegal immigration reduce American wages because labor is like everything else.
It adheres to the ironclad law of supply and demand.
The more you have of it, the cheaper it is.
And we should want, whether we are progressive leftists or whether we're in the MAGA movement, we should want American workers to make decent wages so that our neighbors are living the American dream, not just the elites.
So in general, this is a massive betrayal of his number one campaign promise.
But let me just address very briefly the H-1B argument specifically.
So H-1Bs are defended on the grounds that number one, we don't have the talent here, so we need to import it.
And number two, that we're doing a sort of brain drain from the rest of the world.
Let's bring in the best and the brightest.
These are both nonsense, and I urge your viewers to look the stats up.
I'm going to repeat a few of them, but don't take my word for it.
Look it up.
Right now, there are 17 million people living in this country who have a degree in STEM, and only 9 million of them are employed in STEM jobs.
We have a bunch of them, many millions who are employed in other jobs, and 3 million who are not employed at all in STEM jobs.
So we have the supply of labor here, and if we went into the inner city and we went into Appalachia, by God, you would find brilliant Americans there.
The problem is that the industry has a massive downward pressure on wages, so it is not attracting the brilliant and the brightest of homegrown Native American talent.
What we're doing is importing a whole bunch of people.
So what about this argument that these Well, Pierce, you already mentioned we have a visa for the best and the brightest, and you have it.
The H-1B visa is being used to import an indentured slave caste who are tied to an employer.
They make on average $40,000 a year less than Americans.
There are 500,000 H-1B visas here, and 30% of STEM jobs are done by foreign workers, people who were born somewhere else.
that is by definition not the best and the brightest this is not a brain drain of the world it is a wage drain of americans who should be middle class and instead their wages are being sucked upward in a funnel to billionaires like elon musk well hey that was a fantastic rant uh and secondly thank you it's a kind of thing
I think it's very important that we ask, why are Americans talking about this 10-year-old case all of a sudden with so much vigor and so much interest?
And the answer is because, as you led with, Pierce, Elon Musk decided that this was going to be his cause du jour.
And the reason that he decided that, it seems to me, is to distract from the massive debate that he launched about H-1B visas when he sided with foreign workers over American workers.
And the fact that in response to criticism, he has begun censoring people on Twitter in exactly the same way that conservatives used to be censored on Twitter under the old regime.
And in order to change the subject, he has decided to talk about this decade-old case in Britain and take up this character.
And you are right.
You are both right.
It's not Islamophobic for people in England to debate this.
But you know what I will not stand for?
what will make somebody my enemy is if people in America decide to talk about our Muslim neighbors and friends and co-Americans who have nothing to do with this.
And because a billionaire is throwing a tantrum and trying to change the subject, we'll suddenly start talking about people in a totally different country in a way that makes my neighbors feel uncomfortable.
My neighbors feel unsafe in America.
And I think that's a really important point.
point to me.
Yeah, I do.
Elon is not even in it just for himself.
He is a shill of the Chinese Communist Party.
For all of his masquerading as some sort of maverick who always tells the truth and is always explicit in his views and out there and always says what he thinks, he has never once criticized the CCP.
The opposite.
He is constantly saying embarrassing, humiliating, bending the knee things about how great the Chinese Communist Party is because of course his entire supply chain for Tesla is in China.
So when they asked him to build a showroom for Tesla in Xinjiang, where the genocide of the Uyghurs is happening, he said, I would love to, and he went ahead and did it.
So this is a person who is totally in the pocket of the CCP to see him as anything else than an actual apparatchik of China is to really miss, I think, the forest for the trees.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Welcome.
It's January 6th.
It's Monday, 6th January, Year of the Lord, 2025. One of the things I feel great about, when you have people like Natalie Winters and right there, Baccia Unger Sargon, that can go from zero to 60 instantaneously and be ripping the face off billionaires.
He couldn't get on a stage with them.
It's not defensible.
They bring the heat.
That's bringing the heat.
Piers Morgan does this for a living.
He says, man, that's quite a rant.
That's professional grade right there.
Lays it all out.
Ben Harnwell, thanks for staying up.
We've got a lot to go through, but I'll get the rest of it to you tomorrow.
But I do have to deal with this situation in Europe.
The greatest living Englishman, Nigel Farage, who labored for 20 years, and I was over there for part of it, going to these little meetings, like Tea Party meetings, to spread the word about...
The United Kingdom getting their sovereignty back.
It ended up being Brexit.
What he did, it's the most important political thing.
Honestly, it's just two notches down from Churchill.
And then you have a free fall to all the other British leaders, including Thatcher.
What Nigel Farage did for his people is greater than what Thatcher did, and she did incredible.
I'm a huge Iron Lady fan.
But to have Elon jump on this, and what Bacchia said right there about Muslims in the United States, go on this Rothman, hey, that, as you remember, Ben, Rahim Kassam is the first guy to actually get going on it.
Rahim wrote a book about this.
Rahim was banned everywhere.
Breitbart, London, we were on this thing for years and years and years and trying to get the people that Elon is appraising, the Tory party, particularly the new leader of the Tory party, she was in power for 10 years and did nothing.
This fighting with Tommy Robinson, Tommy Robinson's a friend of the show, and we've always supported Tommy Robinson.
I committed, I don't know, two weeks ago, three weeks ago at AmFest, Tommy Robinson's people came over.
I gave Tommy a shout-out in prison and said that we would be there and be fully supportive when he gets out in September to be there for his big rally, rallies that Raheem Kassam has put on before in London, as you know.
So this is just, and what it shows you, it's very simple.
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It's not even about a glass jaw.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Because of the affliction he has of whatever it is, right?
He calls people retards, which I think is an unacceptable smear on folks.
But whatever his issue is, and issues he's got, they fantasize.
They're like little boys.
They fantasize like being the hero.
The adoration.
The worst thing that happened to this guy?
Is the adoration he got from the crowds at President Trump's rallies in the run-up to the election.
You can see him jumping around like, you know, he looked like Andrew Giuliani.
Remember when Rudy was getting sworn in back the first time he beat Dinkins, I think?
And Andrew Giuliani's on the thing and, you know, bouncing around and, you know, couldn't, you know, had a little bit of ADD, I think.
Andrew at the time was a little boy, bouncing around, couldn't keep still.
My mom used to say, you got ants in your pants, right?
The old school, before you got a slap upside the head.
Now he's bouncing around on the stage.
Elon's bouncing around the stage, sucking it all in.
He's finally the geek that the high school class says, oh, you're a cool kid, and he's just dancing around.
The look is like, you know, heaven's parted, and he's seen Nirvana.
And now the adoration of the crowd's not there because they understand what a scam it is.
He sat there and mocked the American people and said he's going to turf you, this audience, out of the Republican Party, all the work that you've done for a guy from South Africa that has, I don't know, multiple citizenships, citizen of every country he kind of lights in.
He's going to tell you how to run your country, given all the work he does.
So all of a sudden, when the adoration changed...
He then had to go to the social credit store.
He went to his paymasters.
He went to the system his paymasters have in China.
He went to the pay...
By the way, I've got to get my clock fixed here, if you don't mind.
Thank you, sir.
Right there.
It would be nice if I had it.
He went to the social credit score.
And then when the adoration really came, you know, in reverse, he had to go...
He's overseas for monsters to slay, and he came upon this story that's 10 years old, and it's a horrible story.
I agree with people when they say it is one of the biggest open sores in the West.
But Ben Harnwell, you've been there from the beginning.
For him to say, and to show you how out of touch he is, that Nigel's not right to read the Reform Party.
Dude, he found the Reform Party.
He is the Reform Party.
It just shows you his naivete and kind of the dangerous, When you give an 11-year-old boy a massive weapon and he can, with no constraints, use it.
But it doesn't matter.
It'll pass.
His power and influence is one thing.
The checks he can write.
Let's be blunt.
He wrote $250 million worth of checks in five months, unparalleled, in a third-party thing to support the ground game.
And I am the first to say, understanding and having put together that strategy, he got it.
And he backed it up with money.
The campaign didn't have the money.
The RNC didn't have the money.
Elon Musk and his engineering brain got it.
And he deserves not just respect for that, but he deserves a place at the table.
Now, the place at the table doesn't have to be the head of the table, and it certainly doesn't have to be making demands or making orders.
But I'm interested in your thoughts, Ben, since you've been...
I met you back, I don't know, in 13 or 14 at that time, and you were in Rome, but you were very involved in all this, sir.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
Well, I'm going to start off with this point, right?
Yes, I mean, Elon Musk has a lot of power and influence in the world right now.
He's the world's richest man.
He owns, you know, Twitter.
But there's another factor, I think, that gives him influence in the world when he's contributing to other political movements, and that is his proximity to Donald Trump.
So I'm going to open with this aside and then get on to the actual point I want to make.
That he is now leading this doge and is a very senior consultant to the new administration, not formally in the cabinet, but as soon as he's being presented of that order.
I'd like to just throw this in there.
Seeing as Susie Wiles, the chief of staff, has instructed all cabinet members to have their tweets and communications run through her through approval first, I think if...
Elon wants to be a team player in this administration.
He should voluntarily submit to do exactly the same.
He should submit all of his social...
In future, because of his proximity to the president, he should submit all of his tweets for publication to Susie Wilde, and she can decide whether it's appropriate or not.
Close brackets.
The point I want to make about Elon Musk here...
It's very illustrative, and I agree with everything that you and Bertia said at the beginning, but I have a different angle to come in on this.
Starting off with Tommy Robinson, I absolutely think that Tommy Robinson, as far as the future of the UK is concerned, is part of the solution rather than part of the problem.
But I will openly admit that is not a majority opinion in the UK right now.
And the one person who understands Great Britain and the British people is Nigel Farage, right?
The fact, and you said, you hinted, well, you said it explicitly on the show a couple of days ago, the fact that Elon Musk has been in this movement for five minutes and comes in and he has sort of overwritten in his own imaginations that he understands the British public better than Nigel Farage.
This illustrates one thing, Steve.
It shows you that this guy, however much of a genius he might be at building cars or space rockets or what have you, and you know, even though he's, as Laura Luma called him the other day on this show, a corporate welfare queen, massively subsidised by the CCP and by the American taxpayer, I think he has a certain genius when it comes to these things.
Put that aside.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Here's my point.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
Let me close this point.
It's simple.
Elon Musk, in making this intervention, saying that Nigel Farage doesn't have what it takes, he has shown the world that he does not know what he does not know.
And for anyone who's operating at the highest level of politics, that is a fatal conceit.
I think with that intervention onwards, he's shown all these movements when he could have given a lot of good that he is an unstable force and he cannot be relied upon.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
No, it's always in his self-interest.
That's the situation here.
I will say, for full disclosure, because I've always liked Tommy.
I always liked the cut of his jib.
And you're an Englishman, you can tell me.
Remember, I'm Irish, so it's quite different.
I've always thought it was kind of a class thing.
You know, Tommy Robinson is a tough character.
He's more towards the lad or to the hooligan side of, you know, British football or British soccer.
He's a street fighter.
He's a tough guy.
And those guys come out.
I mean, when Raheem would put on those rallies for Tommy, I mean, his followers, they got some guys that are, you know, they'll throw a few punches.
They will not back down.
I've always felt that Nigel, in all British politics, the one reason you don't have, I believe, a bigger populist nationalist movement in England is a little bit of the class thing.
Elon's completely wrong because he doesn't understand any of it.
He's just in there just, you know, he's trying to change the conversation.
He's not trying to advance the football.
Although I do realize that Nigel has been very precise and that team of his has been very precise from the beginning with Brexit and all of it.
I remember he used to say, if you unite those two, because his was immigration.
And Tommy's not perfect on immigration.
Tommy really focuses on the, I would say, the anti-Muslim part of it, the anti-radical part of it, obviously tied around South Asian and this grooming situation.
So they're not totally complementary.
But there definitely has been a divide between those two working together.
And I do believe that at some point in time, they will have to work together.
And I've always looked at Tommy Robinson as a leader, right?
And, you know, people say, well, how can he be a leader?
He always ends up back in jail for some reason.
Well, he's a political prisoner.
And, you know, overnight people were telling me behind the scenes, well, he's not a political prisoner.
He, you know, he violated this.
And I said, no, but it was such a small, ridiculous thing that he is a political prisoner.
They want to put him in a way to shut him up.
Now, and I realize, you being English, that I should, for full disclosure, when I deal with my British friends, they don't agree with me at all on this point.
At all.
They go, you don't understand it.
I happen to think I do kind of get this and where it can evolve to and where I see it evolving to, but right now it's definitely, and I do believe, I might be wrong, I think that that is still the residue of the class differences.
Britain has much stronger class distinctions.
Maybe I can say that as an Irishman.
And my family did go to, many of them went to Liverpool to try to make it.
After they couldn't make it in Ireland, they went to Liverpool to try to make it, couldn't make it there, and that was the crowd that really led the way to the United States.
Ben Harnwell.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
Steve, look, the thing is, Nigel Farage, especially looking at the way politics is going right now, Nigel Farage has a very serious possibility of being prime minister.
Now, the sad reality is, and some people won't like me saying this, but the sad reality is, I think the Muslim bloc vote 20 years ago could control 100 of the UK's 650 seats.
That was 20 years ago.
It's going to be 200 of those seats now.
The Muslims dispersed across the country can hold in their hands without even trying the formation of any future political government.
As I said at the beginning, I think...
Tommy Robinson's part of the solution going forward.
But Nigel Farage understands a lot better than Elon Musk the message he's going to need to craft to become prime minister and a hardline anti-Islamic message.
As I said, not everyone will like me saying this.
Not a lot of people necessarily would agree with me saying this.
But it's my reading of the situation that if Nigel Farage...
Look, there's a difference why Tommy Robinson is on about half a percent of popularity in the country.
And I do think he's a hero, a real hero.
And Nigel Farage is on around 40%.
If Nigel Farage imitated Tommy Robinson's policy positions...
His popularity in the polls would start mirroring Tommy Robinson.
And I say, Tommy Robinson is a hero, right?
Nigel Farage wants to be prime minister.
He has a serious chance of doing it.
And if Elon Musk had had the emotional maturity to say to Nigel Farage what he said to the Trump campaign, what do you need from me to be able to help you?
Then the situation in the UK would be very different now.
As it is, they seem to have had a rupture.
And I repeat, that's because Elon Musk, for all of his autistic genius, he does not know what he does not know.
And that is fatal for anybody who's setting himself up as a concierge in international politics.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
Let me go back to Nigel.
It's not that he wants to be Prime Minister.
I think he believes he needs to be Prime Minister at this point in time to essentially fully execute on Brexit and in doing so save his country.
Nigel Farage could have punched out and done things and made so much more money over the last 10-15 years I've known him.
And I've never seen a more dedicated guy.
This guy works non-stop in this effort.
Look, it took 20 years for Brexit.
20 years.
And I was there...
You know, let's see, 16 was the vote.
I started following those guys in 12 and 13. I started following him in 10 and 11, but really 12 and 13 really went over there.
And this was like going to Tea Party meetings.
I mean, some of these talks and speeches were in people's houses.
Some were in front of 25 people, 50 people.
He would go anywhere and spend all of his time.
So he has a great feel for the country.
And politics in England is quite different in this regard.
And I agree with you.
And I'm not saying he should take all of Tommy Robinson's policies.
Tommy has a different mandate.
I just believe at some point in time that they need to work together because I think Tommy brings a lot.
And I realize one of the reasons Tommy's, I think, at the 1%.
Remember, if you look at the media in Britain, they're 100 times worse than the media here in the United States.
I mean, BBC and these are really state-owned propaganda arms, and that's one of the reasons they completely – they never tell Tommy's full story.
Am I wrong in that, Ben Harnwell?
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
Absolutely not.
A point I should have started with to the American audience is don't underestimate just how communist the UK is these days.
It is absolutely appalling.
Now, I'm not saying – look, I agree with you that the two of them should work together.
I agree with you.
But you know what?
That is Nigel Farage's call as to – How, when, and at what speed?
And not Elon Musk's, right?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Yes.
Yes, I agree.
100%.
Nigel Farage is the greatest living Englishman.
So he saved his country.
Like, President Trump saved the country with coming in at 16, and more importantly, coming back, like, Cincinnati's in 2020, or 2021. To avenge the steal as he saw it.
He says, hey, if I didn't know I had won in 20, I wouldn't have run.
He said that at AmFest.
One of the most important, powerful things President Trump has said.
Nigel basically gave his country its sovereignty back.
And as you know, Boris Johnson, and this is the great tragedy of the United Kingdom in Europe.
The great tragedy, Ben, instead of executing and implementing on that, because I knew Boris when he was a foreign minister.
In the administration, the prime minister, when we took power in 17 and they came over, and you could see they looked at Brexit as a problem to work around, not as a solution to grab.
And then when Boris Johnson was prime minister, they did the exact strategy I thought would fail, which is to try to make England Singapore on the Thames, right?
Driven by the techs and the techs.
Go ahead, sir.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
No, that's what they said, but they didn't even try to do that.
The Tory party, by the end, it had no idea what to do with power.
It didn't even have the vision to try Singapore on the Thames.
I would have seriously wished the country all the best if it had tried that.
It didn't even try that.
It was just a platitude, like leveling up up in the Red Wall.
And those historic Labour constituencies that had come over to the Tories.
But Boris Johnson, it was a gimmick.
Boris Johnson didn't know what to do with that opportunity.
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And it was, you know, it just – Rishi Sunak.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
What he did – What Boris Johnson did is what is going to engulf President Trump in the first days of his second term.
This Ukraine situation is coming at us because the Russian army is once again on the march and the Ukrainians are trying to have a counter-infested.
More people are dying, more destruction.
This hole gets deeper and deeper.
They're looking now, as you know and you follow so closely, they have essentially turned to America and saying, Trump, bail us out.
We need your money for Reconstruction, but most importantly, we need young American men and women to be hostages.
When they say a security guarantee, they mean a peacekeeping force of American troops that quote-unquote America's committed, and what they mean by that is your sons and daughters as hostages.
I'd love to be able to say it in a kinder way, but to go back to Ian Bremmer, in the law of the jungle, and right now, folks, Ukraine is about as deep into the jungle as you can get.
They've lost 1.7 million people since we've been talking on this show in what, since 22?
When the war started.
Right?
When the war started.
And they've killed and wounded 1.7 million people according to their statistics.
Law of the jungle?
And now they want the United States, once again, they want the boys and girls in the United States, just like the young boys across the beach in Normandy, just like the young boys in the 8th Air Force in the spring of 1942, to try to bail them out and to try to save them.
Once again, this is the Boris Johnson of the world.
Well, instead of focusing on their own country, when Nigel Farage gave you your sovereignty back, gave you your sovereignty back, instead of implementing that, what did he do?
He tried to be Winston Churchill and essentially initiated a war in the Eurasian landmass, sir.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
So here's what – yeah.
So here's what Zelensky said, according to Reuters.
Without the United – and you used the words.
There's two words.
There's the trigger words for me.
Without the United States, security guarantees are not possible.
Well, look, I don't want to start paraphrasing Field Marshall.
But when I hear the word security guarantees, I reach for my gun.
That, in those two words, that will undermine everything that this Trump administration could possibly hope to achieve.
And here's how it all ties together, because when Giorgio Maloney makes her mad dash to Mar-a-Lago for the kissy-kissy...
This is one of the things, Ukraine is one of the things that she's pushing on Donald Trump to fold on.
And here's Italy with a 1.5% commitment of its GDP to defense, 1.5%.
That's a full 75% of what the NATO members are supposed to contribute.
Flying over to Washington, D.C., asking the United States...
A president-elect who's just won a historic election.
It's all one, Steve.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
We're going to let you go to bed.
What's your social media?
We'll let you go to sleep.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
I do need to sleep.
Thank you.
Getter at Harnwell.
Thanks, Steve.
God bless.
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Catch you tomorrow.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Thank you, brother.
See you tomorrow.
Short commercial break.
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All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
I'd like to send her condolences to one of the great patrons, Kim Shrouds, who is a tremendous supporter of this program.
The MAGA movement, President Trump from Virginia, just an incredible person, passed away over the holiday.
She got ill.
I think she got ill when I was in prison and then came out.
When I came out, she got, I think, even a little sicker and had to, I think, check into a hospice.
Just an extraordinary lady, her husband, David, a great couple, pure MAGA. One thing about Kim is what...
Most of this audience, she was not just a fighter, but she was available 24-7.
I mean, it didn't care what the task was.
So a true leader.
I think Moe's reached out.
We're going to try to see if we can get it.
I think Moe's going to go down for the funeral service, whenever that is.
But Kim Shrouds has passed away over the weekend.
And a real loss to the country, a real loss.
To the MAGA movement, and I know a real loss to her family and her friends, but just an extraordinary person.
We'll get back more into the geopolitics of all this tomorrow.
I just want to leave it with you one more time, Ian Bremmer.
This lays the kind of geostrategic environment that President Trump is stepping into, the law of the jungle.
The post-war international rules-based order is over.
It's collapsed.
It collapsed because the elites were too selfish, too short-sighted, too greedy.
They gutted the working class and the middle class in the United States because of their greed and because of their self-awareness, and now we are where we are.
A new structure has to be built.
I think that's what Senator Rubio and President Trump and the team, you know, Rick Grinnell, and you've got Tom Barrack.
Going to Turkey and KG, going to Greece.
You've got other folks.
Was it Witkoff's going to be one of the envoys to the Middle East?
You've got people working on it.
You've got people in the State Department.
Pete Hegseth, I think we now know pretty, we're getting a good feel when John Thune says Hegseth's going to get confirmed as Secretary of Defense.
You've got Scott Besson, who's going to be Secretary of Treasurer.
We need a new structure.
The post-war international rules-based orders collapsed because the elites got too greedy.
And quite frankly, they allowed the system to be gained by bringing the Chinese Communist Party that they then could exploit the people in China, La Beijing, with the dictators that control that country.
The most brutal regime, I think, in world history.
And that's saying something, because there have been some pretty brutal regimes.
If you look at the 20th century, I don't think there's any doubt Mao, if you look at Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, you know, take the whole collection of them.
There's some bad hombres.
And, you know, when you're comparing people to Hitler, it's, you know, that's quite a comparison.
And I think Mao, because I think Mao killed, I don't know, 200 million Chinese citizens himself.
200 million.
Didn't bat an eye.
But it killed 200 million more.
It was not relevant to him.
A true butcher.
But that order has been infested with the Chinese Communist Party.
That's why it's collapsed.
Of course, the American Atlanticists want to be an empire.
We don't want to be an empire.
We're not an empire.
We don't want to support an empire.
We don't want our sons and daughters spread out all over Hell's Half Acre defending an empire.
We want to make sure the United States of America prospers.
It's been this, you know, like in this debate we have right now, you can see I was following going on YouTube and seeing some of the clips of the show of this thing between myself and Elon Musk and people's lack of understanding.
It's good people, smart people, but their lack of understanding, just the basics even of economics.
They're not War Room Posse members.
They don't watch the show.
They don't have begun the beginning of understanding.
The international economy or capital markets or how the economy here works or what deficits are.
And the naivete, because they've been fed, oh, we need highly skilled foreign workers.
America cannot go for that highly skilled foreign workers.
That's a bald-faced lie.
Just a bald-faced lie.
What they want is more compliant indentured servants.
They want people they can pay a lot less, like 50% less.
They want 50% less and more compliant.
To do anything they're told.
They want indentured servants.
They like slaves.
They can't quite get away with slavery, so they'll do the next best thing, indentured servitude.
And we're going to break that.
It's not right.
People should not live like that.
They should not live like that.
And certainly not in the United States of America in the 21st century.
Remember, the same people that are partners or business partners with the Chinese Communist Party are the same people bringing indentured slaves into the country.
They don't care about the common man.
They think the common man's trash.
They're trying to all the time go beyond homo sapien, homo sapien 2 plus 0 for themselves, to more perfect themselves materially, right?
Whether it's a chip or whether it's some sort of program they put in themselves or goggles or whatever, right?
The goal of those guys is to live forever.
Their number one thing is eternal life because they don't believe in the great faith of the Judeo-Christian West, the underpinnings.
They don't believe in eternal life.
They believe eternal life has to be manufactured to save their secular selves.
That's where their focus is.
So the same people that would partner, or think about it, who would partner with the Chinese Communist Party?
You would only partner with it if you didn't believe in humanity and itself.
Because Lao Bajing, the Chinese people, the common, all hundred names, the common man there, they're the most decent, hard-working folks, tremendous sense of humor.
Kind of this real understanding of humanity and the frailty of life and the irony of life.
Anybody would partner with a regime that brutalized those folks?
And then, of course, they bring in the indentured servitude here because they don't care about citizens.
They don't care about Americans.
They're not American.
They're not.
Just because you got a passport don't make you American.
Suck on that.
Seagal Chata, you've got something up in the Arizona press that I think everybody needs to know about.
You're a fighter.
You're an old school.
You're kind of an Old Testament fighter.
sigal chattah ▲ ● ▼
I am.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
People should know out in Nevada, one of the reasons we won is because of the great work she did from the very beginning.
And I know that you are looking to help either justice or U.S. attorney.
You're there to work for President Trump to help him take it to the next level.
What are you saying?
This is kind of a disturbing article.
Give our audience your theory of the case and what your recommended course of action is, ma'am.
sigal chattah ▲ ● ▼
Well, first of all, hat tip to my translator, editor, Megan Bart, who really takes my work and, you know, delawyerizes it for the public.
Basically, what, you know, the whole notion of the article is really kind of a call to action for all our administrative agencies to work together to ensure that...
You know, that we really get a hold of this domestic terrorism.
You know, we've been called Islamophobes and, you know, xenophobes and everything for so long that, you know, it was almost abusive in nature.
And then the two things that you do see, look, I was right in the middle of, you know, the whole Tesla incident here in Las Vegas.
And, you know, we saw what happened over the weekend in New Orleans.
And I think really what we're seeing is we're seeing a kind of reawakening of, you know, the common sense law that needs to be administered.
And things that, you know, after 15 years of abuse of, you know, Barack Obama's sentiments and Eric Holder's sentiment, it's time to start, you know, calling into action and using the laws that...
I personally, I call them enemy combatants because they're belligerent aliens that are existing and living in this country that want to destroy America from within.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
So how do you do that on a fine line that, because domestic terrorism for these guys has been...
People in patriot groups, people that believe in limited government, many people in the MAGA movement.
Hell, we got prisons full of people from January 6th on the four-year anniversary of that event.
How do you do that?
I mean, we can't even designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization, which should have been done.
We couldn't do it in the first Trump term.
I tell people, I had a lot of wins on that one.
It went nowhere.
I mean, the administrative and deep state shut that down at the very even mention of it.
So how do you balance that?
Because I know you're also a big believer in civil liberties.
How do you balance that with all the abuses of the Patriot Act and then having these laws turned against basic patriotic Americans, particularly veterans, that they were looking at, you know, that the white Christian male was the number one domestic terrorist in the country?
Ma'am.
sigal chattah ▲ ● ▼
Right.
And I do have concerns about civil liberties being violated under the Patriot Act.
And one of the things that we still have today, which is the USA's Freedom Act, that basically keeps a lot of what the Patriot Act...
Did, but it does allow for roving wiretaps.
It does allow for certain things.
And you have to balance it with national security interests.
And I'll tell you what, you ask any one of those 14 parents that lost their children, if they would have minded if they were under surveillance under the Patriot Act, if it would bring their children back.
And they would all tell you no.
At the same time, we need to make sure.
Look, I was right in the midst of Operation GC-ing in 2006 in Las Vegas when all the mess went down with private businessmen being wiretapped under the Patriot Act.
So we have to make sure that we don't have those types of data dumps and data collection.
But at the same time, I think if you ask most Americans, they wouldn't allow certain wiretaps to be done with...
In the interest of national security.
We don't want to see abuses of Title III that we have seen, but at the same time, again, you know, I think in the interest of national security, you have to be able to give up some rights for that.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
What advice do you have for the caches of the world and for Pam Bonney and the folks taking over DOJ when you have on one side obviously radical Islamic jihad and terrorist, but then you've got a Muslim population here in the United States that by and large, to a large extent, just wants but then you've got a Muslim population here in the United States that by and It's peaceful, just wants to get on with it.
And then you've got a tremendous amount of folks in these patriot groups that are constantly being surveilled.
I mean, even I came, it was my parish, my parents parish of Tridentine Catholicism that the memo was written about in the Richmond field office.
They thought that that was a breeding ground.
For white nationalists, right?
Because these people are super patriotic.
And they're working class and lower middle class.
So how do you balance that?
I mean, what would you tell Kash, given the fact that radical jihad is still a massive problem?
And to be brutally frank, with Erdogan and the Muslim Brotherhood in Turkey, and you're seeing the reestablishment, they're trying to be the reestablishment of the Ottoman Empire and the Caliphate.
This is only going to get worse for that aspect of it.
What is your recommendation?
sigal chattah ▲ ● ▼
You know, here's what I think.
I think there's, you know, the issues that we have are twofold, right?
So first of all, what I would want to see is I would want to see the MCA, the Military Commissions Act, being reinstated and used under this presidency and really kind of a joint collaboration between the FBI, the DOD, the CIA, the NSA. We have to all collaborate to make sure that, yeah, those civil liberties are protected.
But at the same time, national security interests are placed first.
So that's one thing.
A second thing is, let's take it down to the states and let's deal with, you know, the FBI, the local FBI, and do joint task forces, so joint terrorist task forces, JTTF, with local police forces.
I mean, here in Las Vegas, we're very lucky.
We've got the Fusion Center and we've got a JTTF here with the FBI and LVMPD. I mean, so we really have to establish that and strengthen it on the state level.
And then, obviously, those state-level prosecutions, which are under Article III courts, would be done with Pam Bondi and under Pam Bondi's auspices and supervision, really.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Do you think that with Cash at the FBI, would you recommend to him, because two-thirds of the FBI today, and this is why I say Cash is one of the most...
Qualified people ever put up for the office.
Two-thirds, I think, of the budget, the manpower now in intelligence, counterintelligence, and counterterrorism.
Should the FBI be bifurcated and broken up and that either be put in DHS or another entity that's focused domestically and make sure the CIA is totally out of it, they're just international, and make sure the FBI, what's ever left of the federal law enforcement, is a law enforcement function against drug dealers and mob guys and things like that and child trafficking while the counterintelligence, counterterrorism and intelligence apparatus is separate?
Ma'am?
sigal chattah ▲ ● ▼
You know, I can't tell Cash how to run the FBI. I mean, Cash is very competent.
And Cash has both a background of a public defender and a prosecutor.
He knows that fine line.
As far as, I think when we're dealing with domestic terrorism, I think we need to refocus to the highest and best use.
I think what we saw is, you know, Christopher Wray lied to the American public.
And say that the Richmond, Virginia incident where parents were being surveilled and Catholics were being surveilled as an anomaly was an absolute lie.
And I think that what we need to do is we really need to make sure that you have to have a collaborative effort because when you don't have collaboration between the FBI and the DOJ and You know, even the CIA and all the intel agencies, that's when things get lost.
And we saw that happen before 9-11.
And that's one of the, I think, that was one of the issues with 9-11 is nobody was communicating.
But now that we have that protocol that really Bush put into place, once you have that protocol established, we can really fix this country in four years.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Seagal, where do people go to get the article and where they go for your social media platform?
sigal chattah ▲ ● ▼
So the article is found on Nevada Globe's website.
They could follow me, Chatter for Nevada.
It's on Twitter, GetterX, and Truth Social.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Seagal, thank you so much.
Appreciate you doing a great job out there for President Trump in the election.
Just amazing.
Thank you for all the work you're doing.
sigal chattah ▲ ● ▼
Thank you so much, Steve.
Have a good evening.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
That's another worker right there.
The reason this movement's going forward, the reason President Trump's being so successful was people like the Kim Shrouds of the world, the Seagal Chatters, just incredible.
People that will roll their sleeves up and get things done.
Turbulence.
I didn't even get today with four hours of show.
If we can put this up, maybe, and I'll talk about it tomorrow.
So on the weekend Financial Times of London, as you know, my favorite paper, and the Saudi paper is my favorite, there was a massive, massive piece on our own Dr. Peter Navarro.
Now, Dr. Navarro is no longer with us here in the war room.
Dr. Navarro is a key part of the transition team for President Trump, and Peter Navarro on the 20th will return as a senior counselor to the President of the United States.
One of the 12 top people in the entire White House.
In fact, I think senior counsel is in the top two or three, along with, like, chief of staff.
Peter will be senior counselor, and he'll be in charge of manufacturing, tariffs, trade deals, all of that.
And he'll be right there in the West Wing so that he can be close to President Trump.
Jillian Tett.
Is the senior financial editor at the Financial Times of London, quite brilliant, a capital markets expert, a monetary expert.
She spent some time with Peter, a little bit of time with myself.
Incredible article about Peter Navarro, his background, but really his beliefs.
It's called Magonomics.
Really gets down into talking about industrial, bringing manufacturing back to the United States, bringing high-value out of manufacturing jobs, obviously.
Always focused on advanced technology, what needs to be done in trade and tariffs.
One of the things that becomes quite clear, and I've gotten this from Jay, on the feedback they've gotten from the Financial Times, which is, you know, and she's up front saying it's, we've been at loggerheads with those folks for years and years and years.
In fact, the mention of me in the article is about how I treat the Financial Times as like the church newsletter of a religion that we're trying to crush.
So we've really opposed the neoliberal, neocon aspects of the Financial Times, and they give as good as they get.
But people really, if you get a chance, I'm going to try to put these articles up later on Getter so everybody can get them.
You don't need a subscription to the Financial Times.
Incredible piece.
I know the feedback she's getting.
And here's what's interesting.
People who had no understanding at all really about MAGAnomics or Peter Navarro or the trade deals.
Remember, most economists, when you talk to them, They don't really know much about tariffs because in modern economics they don't focus much on trade.
Trade is so essential to everything.
This is why Peter is such an extraordinary individual.
President Trump is maniacally focused on those tariffs.
In fact, he came out just a little while ago before I came on TV. There's a Washington Post article out how around President Trump there's all this fighting already as we had in 2017 on tariffs.
Unlike the NAFTA deal, the new NAFTA deal deals with the Koreans, Japanese, the major China deal that Peter and Lighthizer get done in May of 19, but never got signed by the Chinese.
They walked away from it.
All the fighting on trade and tariffs and all of it.
Modern commons just don't focus on it.
It's absolutely central.
President Trump came out just a little while ago, told Reuters, hey...
I don't know who was talking to my team, but I'm more committed to tariffs than anything, and I'm driving high tariffs to bring jobs back for the country and, quite frankly, rejuvenate, get some money in the Treasury.
So I think you're going to see it in the executive orders.
Tomorrow we're going to talk more about the first days of Trump's second term, what's got to happen on both ending the kinetic war on the Eurasian landmass, starting the deportations of 15 million illegal aliens and securing the border.
And working in partnership with Central America and Mexico to make sure that it takes place.
And, of course, the third, which is to figure out this mess with the debt, the deficit, and how do you finance this government and make sure it's done fairly and equitably.
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Already, I think you're seeing a softening of President Trump, because I don't think he was fully informed, thinking about having two reconciliation bills, and let's get mass deportations, the border control energy, all that done quickly with one simple bill, something that's simple, and then do later the big tax policy, and probably do that later in the spring or early in the summer.
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Wow.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
What a show.
Okay, we're going to be back at 10 a.m.
tomorrow morning, Eastern Standard Time.
So much to get through.
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