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Episode 4174: The Law Of The Jungle
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kamala harris
is one of the most fundamental principles of American democracy.
As we have seen, our democracy can be fragile.
And it is up to then, each one of us, to stand up for our most cherished principles.
And to make sure that in America, our government always remains of the people, by the people, and for the people.
unidentified
All of us remember the violence that occurred four years ago with the attack.
Despite all of that, President-elect Trump is calling the 21 attack a day of love and is promising to pardon some of the convicted rioters.
Today, in a new op-ed, President Biden warns Americans, quote, we must remember the wisdom of the adage that any nation that forgets its past is doomed to repeat it.
We cannot allow the truth to be lost.
kamala harris
The votes for President of the United States are as follows.
Donald J. Trump of the state of Florida has received 312 votes.
Kamala D. Harris of the state of California has received 226 votes.
unidentified
Thank you.
kamala harris
The whole number of electors appointed to vote for Vice President of the United States is 538. Within that whole number, a majority is 270. The votes for Vice President of the United States are as follows.
J.D. Vance of the state of Ohio has received 312 votes.
Tim Walls of the state of Minnesota has received 226 votes.
Applause This announcement of the state of the vote by the President of the Senate shall be deemed a sufficient declaration of the persons elected President and Vice President of the United States, each for a term.
Beginning on the 20th day of January 2025 and shall be entered together with the list of the votes on the journals of the House and the Senate.
Thank you very much.
harry enten
Take a look here.
All right.
January 6th is the biggest memory of Trump's first term.
Look at this.
unidentified
Wow.
That is something.
It's just 5%.
harry enten
I mean, most folks, simply put, were willing to dismiss it without much of an issue.
And among Republicans, what do we see?
It was just 2%.
So even though you had that significant chunk of Republicans who said, we oppose it, even though the vast majority of Americans opposed it, the bottom line, when it came to November, even when it comes now, most Americans, simply put, Manu, are not thinking about it.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
harry enten
Mega media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.
steve bannon
It's Monday, 6 January in the year of our Lord, 2025.
Welcome aboard the War Room.
For a historic day you just saw right there, I really want to thank our crack production team here in the war room and also the folks at Real America's Voice in Denver for putting that together.
Very powerful today without really a hitch and really without a whole lot of ceremony.
Kind of solemn there.
We certified the election of Donald John Trump as the 47th President of the United States to take place.
I think he takes the oath of the office right at high noon on the 20th.
Give his inaugural address.
Then we'll get on with it.
A lot to get on with.
We're going to talk more about this today.
I want today to be a day of commemoration and contemplation, particularly how far we've come.
You've just done a tremendous job.
You remember that day when, yes, And, you know, the media matters.
These guys are freaking out this morning when I said we came this close.
Yes, President Trump, the 2020 election was stolen.
And we had an official platform right there to adjudicate it, but it was taken from us via the Fed's direction.
But we'll get to all that.
We'll be able to investigate the 2020 election.
We'll be able to investigate the Fed's direction, you know, why there wasn't security, all of it.
Also, many, many of the Biden policies and, of course, the weaponization of the government and particularly the use of the government against individuals, including many of those that are still in prison from J6. The largest criminal investigation.
Think about that for a second.
All the infiltration of the Bolsheviks and the communists and the Marxists in the 30s and 40s and 50s, the anti-war.
Protests, 9-11, the radical Islamic jihad springing right up there in Brooklyn, New York, and in New York City.
Everything the FBI has failed to do.
They got the largest criminal investigation in its history.
Jack booting down the doors of, I don't know, grandmothers and, you know, other citizens.
But that'll all be taken care of when President Trump gets the pardons rolling on the afternoon of 20 January 2025. Throughout the world, I want to make sure we're not missing world news, also economics, everything kind of converging on that point.
President Trump today, on Hugh Hewitt, as we played earlier, I think we may play a little later in the show, said, hey, I'm not tied to one bill.
I could do two bills.
This is whatever is most effective.
This is how his words are being twisted, but this has got to get untwisted, like, immediately.
So we get an action plan of action, action, action.
To move off smartly with, to be able to execute on the plan of President Trump for a second term.
I want to bring in Ben Harnwell now.
The world is on fire.
As President Trump, like I said, let's go back to the work that has to be done.
You've got the kinetic part of the Third World War.
President Trump needs to bring peace to that.
We've got then the invasion of the southern border, the 15 million illegal alien invaders, plus now...
Other deep questions about the quote-unquote legal immigration system, which is not legal at all, which is destroying American workers.
President Trump also said he's open to dreamers.
And President Trump, just a word of recommendation.
Before we worry about dreamers, let's worry about American citizen dreamers.
We've got a lot of American citizen dreamers that dreams are being crushed.
We're not going to get...
We are totally indifferent of the ethnicity, the race, the religion of any of the American people that get jobs in Silicon Valley as long as the only requirement is they're American citizens.
They're American citizens.
And we happen to believe...
That that is the best way to give the African American folks and the Hispanic folks a shot at the brass ring at high value added, you know, advanced industrial manufacturing jobs using technology.
And until you take the STEM, what we do at the STEM level at grade school, and until you roll that into colleges, and until you roll that into engineering schools, until you roll it into...
Master's programs.
And make sure you throttle back on these foreign students.
Not that we have a problem with foreign students as long as they get an exit visa stapled to their degree and they go home immediately afterwards to make their own nation great again, which should be their focus.
We just want more room in engineering schools and computer science schools, information technology schools for American citizens of every ethnicity and race because they're American citizens.
Oh, and they're smart enough.
Don't tell me the rest of the world is smart enough.
They're just not buying that.
It's a zero chance of that.
What you're doing is bringing in indentured servants from South Asia to work at dramatically lower wages to suppress wages, but also the working conditions.
You want compliant indentured servants.
And this whole thing, we need highly skilled, highly skilled, highly skilled.
The skills are no better than American citizens.
The industrial democracies throughout the world.
I don't know if it's a Trump effect or if it's just about the geoeconomics of the world today.
But the entire G7, Ben Harnwell joins me.
So Ben, we had the British government a year and a half ago with Liz Truss and then Richie Sunak basically get turfed out by the bond market because they tried to go back to the Reagan playbook of the 80s and it ain't the early 1980s.
You just can't go back.
It's a fantasy to think you can go back.
And have those types of tax cuts without really thinking through spending, getting your arms around spending.
Then Starmer came in, Sir Starmer, and he's now at all times, I think he's at 28%.
They still haven't gotten the economics right.
It then turfed out the French government.
It's turfed out the German government.
We've turfed out Joe Biden because of this, principally inflation being the number one thing along with immigration, but they're two sides kind of the same coin.
And now Castro's son.
Up in Canada has gotten a heave-ho, and in South Korea, which I think is different.
South Korea is kind of driven by the CCP. You've got a coup there.
That government's falling.
I think all the G7, and now some other countries in Europe, every government is falling basically from politics tied to underlying economics and debt and immigration.
Ben Harnwell.
ben harnwell
Yeah, look, even South Korea, look, what's the one line that draws all of these countries that you just magisterially listed?
What's the one common denominator that draws all of these countries together?
They're all pro-Ukraine, every single one of them.
Even South Korea has been contributing to the war effort.
The media isn't going to draw that connection.
We certainly will here.
But show of that, because I don't want to dig in.
There are interesting things happening in Ukraine, but I didn't want to concentrate on those too much this evening.
I wanted to mention Canada, which I touched on very briefly earlier on in the morning show, and specifically Austria, Steve.
There's a lot happening in Austria today.
And basically the news is, a couple of days ago, Carl Niehammer, the chancellor, resigned.
This is following an election in September when the Freedom Party, which are basically our guys, they got 29% of the vote and the Chancellor, Niehammer, had tried to form what's called the Cordon Sanitaire to keep out the alt-right parties at all costs from ever forming a government.
So he then, this Niehammer, which is in the centre-right grouping, the Austrian People's Party, had made an approach to the socialists.
It's how lacking a principle they have.
They will do anything to keep an anti-immigration Eurosceptic.
Okay, hang on for one second.
steve bannon
Hang on one second.
I want to take our time here on an historic day, January 6th.
It's very interesting today.
When we showed the greatest comeback in political history, the MAGA movement, driving President Trump, our leader, to a monumental victory against all odds.
We're going to talk about the rest of the world.
Particularly because we want to get the nomenclature and the concepts right.
Ben's going to talk a little bit about center-right and conservative parties versus what they would call far-right.
Or more nationalistic or populist parties.
There's quite a difference.
You're seeing this now in high relief in Europe.
And remember, Europe's always a little bit ahead of us in these types of things.
An historic day, January 6th, in the year of our Lord, 2025. Donald John Trump is certified as the 47th President of the United States of America to take office two weeks hence.
And think of the long journey of this country.
Think of your long personal journey to this moment in time, a historic moment.
A moment that they will talk about and study decades and decades and decades and decades from now.
About what a people's movement that had the back of its leader, that came back from oblivion to total and complete victory in full spectrum dominance.
Short commercial break.
unidentified
This is going to get...
steve bannon
We're going to get to the whole Elon Musk of it because now he's over in Europe wanting desperately to change the subject.
Away from his social credit score, what he's imposed upon the MAGA base, the social credit score, and also about this bringing in indentured servants to take the jobs of American citizens.
Desperately trying to change the subject and put his cape on, the toddler putting the cape on.
He wants to go be a hero someplace else, since he's not going to get adoration here.
I want to go to what's happening in these G7 countries and then throughout the rest of Europe.
This is what I want the audience to understand and start thinking about.
Traditionally, Europe has had kind of a breakdown, a little more socialistic and the conservatives being a little more aristocratic and maybe not so quite small or Republican, just given the history of those countries.
You have had...
Liberals or progressive parties, and you've had, you know, these centrist center-right parties, conservative parties, Christian Democrats, or whatever you want to call them.
That's not what's driving politics today.
And Ben, you know, I spent a couple of years in 18 and 19 tilling the fields over there of this kind of the beginning of the globalist populist revolt that Brexit, then President Trump's victory, and then the European parliamentary victories of the populist nationalist right.
But describe to the audience, I want to make sure the audience can see the line of demarcation between the traditional conservative parties and these kind of parties on the populist right or far-right parties, and the issues that are driving that, that are salient to the discussion we're having here in the United States, sir.
ben harnwell
Okay, so look, this is my experience of politics in the European Union, and this is how I would simplify it.
From the end of the Second World War onwards, Financed many places surreptitiously by the Americans.
The politics in the European Union divided into two camps, literally just two camps, Christian democracy and social democracy.
Christian democracy is the centre-right grouping.
Social democracy is on the centre-left grouping.
And various European countries have variations on the names of it.
But it's basically, that's it, centre-right, centre-left.
Both parties are socialist, effectively.
Christian Democrats are socialists who go to mass on Sunday.
Social Democrats are socialists who don't.
That's pretty much the difference between these two groupings.
And this thing trundled on for 50, 60 years without much problems, right?
And of course the system, the key point about the system, this being continental Europe, was to stop extremism.
From ever returning to mainstream political discourse.
And the problem with this, Steve, is that for various reasons, and we can list them, the system has stopped working for the ordinary person.
And this is exactly the same as what you will have in the United States.
The system has failed to work for the ordinary person.
Failed and is failing to listen to the people when they are saying, we are not happy with the status quo.
And if this is the status quo, we need to find a way of fixing it.
And that's where you have this plethora of alt-right political.
I prefer the term alt-right.
This new term, the new right, I don't like very much.
I like alt-right.
Alternative right.
These are alternative to the mainstream central right groupings.
steve bannon
Yeah, but hang on.
Hang on.
Hang on.
Slow down.
When you say alt-right, I mean, that's a term we used to use initially, particularly with Sernovich and everybody.
It was looked at as an alternative to the right, but then it got hijacked by the racists and the haters, and it turned into something.
So you can't call it alt-right today because that nomenclature doesn't work.
I see what you're exactly trying to do, and I understand the new right has been taken by this, what is the dark enlightenment, this kind of techno-feudalism, which is a real threat.
I just think you've got to look at a different term than alt.
I would love to be able to take the term back alt-right to what it was at the beginning.
But unfortunately, these terms get hijacked by people.
They put their kind of meaning around it, and they blast it out in the mainstream media.
Anyway, continue on.
People just understand, these are not simply conservative parties, but they are farther right and normally driven by the issue of immigration.
And it's not people trying to create ethnostates.
It's the fact of non-assimilation and that this immigration that's really done as an economic, like in Germany at first, ends up destroying the state with the lack of assimilation.
Am I not correct on that?
ben harnwell
Correct on everything, but I must push back ever so lightly on this tinge of the racism thing, because I think it's been imposed by the mainstream media.
I'd say there's as much truth in this as there is to say that Charlottesville...
unidentified
Oh, I agree.
steve bannon
Hey, bro, I'm not saying...
Okay, fine.
Okay, I tell you what.
I concede.
Go ahead and use alt-right.
So when Media Matters puts our headline up, when Madeline Peltz, when our marketing director over at Media Matters puts it up, Ben Harnwell pushes alt-right.
That's okay, but I see your point.
The audience sees your point.
ben harnwell
The problem is that, look, okay, we're in search of a term that is going to be universally acceptable to everybody, and we still haven't found one yet.
Point taken.
steve bannon
Hold it.
I got one far right.
Right wing.
I don't mind being called right wing.
I don't mind being called far right.
Let's just call it far right.
Right wing.
unidentified
Far right doesn't have the shiver of the hairs on the back of the neck.
ben harnwell
The fact that it had 15 years ago.
Perhaps we can accept that.
There is a difference between the far right, inverted commas, the far right and the central right.
Wherever these iterations are, and they are, number one point, this is the point that the glue, I think, is the motor that's driving this change in European politics.
And America, of course, and that is the immigration catastrophe, the invasion of third world illegals.
That is more than any other issue.
That is what catapulted these parties that were on 3% historically to 15, 20, 25. Look, this Austrian party here in September, to come back to this, Herbert Kickl, has now been asked to form the new government, the leader of the Freedom Party.
September they were on 29%.
Now, Steve, you asked in your introduction how much of this is to do with economic factors and how much of this is the ripple effect due to Trump.
Well, September they were on 29%.
I saw in something in Reuters earlier that already, right, if there were an election today, polls at the weekend put the Freedom Party on 37%.
And I would say that's probably...
Due to the Trump factor in America, it's having a benevolent ripple right across Europe.
Because if this system, if this electoral manifesto, if the package, if the message works in the most powerful nation in human history, then it will work elsewhere.
And I think I would attribute this eight-point increase in just like...
Three months to the Trump victory, the benevolent rippling effect across...
Now, look, there's something I want to say here, because this has consequences to Italy as well.
We've all seen the photos of Giorgio Malone there doing the kissy-kissy Mar-a-Lago over the weekend.
One of the consequences of this development is now, and the number one point is that the cordon sanitaire, the attempt by the...
Political establishment in Austria to isolate the far-right grouping has failed.
They have to deal with them.
And the president has invited, as I say, the leader of the Freedom Party to form a government.
And that has consequences for the European bloc of politics.
And I know we're coming to a break, but basically the group that the Freedom...
What party is in, in the European Union, and this is very important, right?
And I do try, when possible, to refer to this, especially for our American audience, because what's happening here in the European Union, it will be important when Trump comes to the White House.
They are in with the Patriots for Europe, which is Viktor Orban's group.
It's not Georgia Maloney's group.
And in this group, you have Goethe Wilders.
You have Spain's Vox.
You have the National Rally, Marine Le Pen's party.
These are our friends, right?
So this is an uptick.
steve bannon
You've got our buddies, yeah.
ben harnwell
For the Orban group.
And there's a slight downvote for Georgia Maloney and her attempt to pivot populist nationalism to pro-Atlanticism.
steve bannon
I want to bring this back to Maloney and to the three lines of worker Trump on the war, on the kinetic war.
Zelensky has come out, Reuters is just reporting, Zelensky has come out and said there is no possibility of even engagement really in peace talks until he gets an assurance of a U.S. security guarantee.
He's saying that Europe won't go along with any kind of peace deal.
Number two, the Ukrainians don't trust the Europeans to actually be able to execute on a security guarantee.
It has to have Americans.
Georgia Maloney was quoted in the papers in Italy, and she's one of the big, the reason she's not in the group, she's one of the big, I don't want to say instigators, but she had the back of the Davos party in Brussels in supporting this war in Ukraine.
Her quote was, yeah, I'm going to talk to Trump.
We've got to get this thing brought to head because the people in Italy are tired of this war.
Of course they're tired of the war.
They're tired of paying for it.
Zelensky's going to have to understand something, Ben.
And from Austria to Germany to France to Italy, they're going to have, particularly France and Germany, that were the driving force of this with Boris Johnson.
There can be no American security guarantee for peace in Ukraine.
That ultimately is going to mean American troops, peacekeeping troops, which are basically American young men and women held hostage in Ukraine.
It cannot happen.
Europe has got to figure out how to stand on its own.
It's no longer a protectorate of the United States of America.
I hope these news rising parties on the right really, really, really want their sovereignty.
The sovereignty from the American empire.
Short commercial break.
Back in a moment.
unidentified
Community of Nations is today the stuff of fairy tales.
Ian Bremmer writes in his yearly top risks report, adding, we are heading back to the law of the jungle, a world where the strongest do what they can while the weakest are condemned to suffer what they must.
And the former, whether states, companies or individuals, can't be trusted to act in the interest of those.
They have power over.
China hacked into our systems.
They have control or have the ability to get into our energy grid and all of our other infrastructure here in this country.
They've also been listening to our phone lines.
They're much deeper in than anyone thought they could get into our systems, and there's no real telling how to get them out.
There's that.
There's also just the influence game they're playing, the software game they're playing with TikTok and the way that it's completely consumed the attention of millions upon millions upon millions of Americans.
If we're going to go hard at them on trade and tariffs, as Donald Trump wants to do, don't they have some arrows in their own arsenal?
They do.
And of course, I mean, the United States doesn't talk about its cyber surveillance and espionage in China.
Rest assured that the Americans are trying to give as hard as they get.
So, I mean, I wouldn't presume that that's only one way.
Now, look, the United States is incredibly powerful.
Militarily, it's the only military that has global reach.
Technologically, the United States is dominating in the AI field.
The Chinese are dominating in the transition energy, electric vehicles, critical minerals field, right?
So the interesting thing is that not only is the Chinese economy still smaller than the U.S., but it's not catching up.
The last few years have not brought them materially closer, and that's a real challenge for them.
That's one of the reasons why in the past few months, Katie, China's diplomacy has been noted by reaching out to India and them pulling back troops from the contested border because they want to stabilize that relationship, reaching out to the Japanese and saying, OK, we'll let you export seafood, even though before we were worried about radioactivity from the waters outside of Fukushima.
Outside of the U.S. relationship, the Chinese have shown that this is not the strongest time for them and they want stability, in part because they understand the U.S.-China relationship is likely to get much worse.
So Trump is correct that whether you're looking at American allies or adversaries, this is a time of comparative strength for the U.S.
You mentioned at the outset how France and Germany and Canada and South Korea were in trouble.
Iran is in trouble, too.
A big adversary of the U.S., I mean, they've just lost their empire in the Middle East, basically blown up by the Israelis with help from the U.S. The Russians have taken some territory in Ukraine, but their economy is in severe decline and NATO is expanding, right?
It feels like there's so much instability.
It's spending more money on defense.
There's so much instability.
It makes you worry about the potential for real conflict on a broader scale around the world.
steve bannon
Real conflict on a broader scale around the world.
Katie Turr of MSNBC. That is Ian Bremmer.
Ian, I know Ian, I've been on his show a couple of times.
He's a globalist, globalist, but he's a very, very smart guy.
And every year he kind of kicks off and gives his forecast, and he's listed, I've got it up on Getter, I think put it up earlier this morning, of the 10, I think I did, I'll double check, but I'm pretty sure I did, the 10 areas to focus on.
His overall theme for this year is Law of the Jungle.
We'll do what they will, and the weak will suffer what they must.
I think that was the quote.
The law of the jungle.
You see this in the beginning of this kinetic part of the Third World War.
And yes, the Persians have taken, you know, the Israelis gave them the old what-for in southern Lebanon, their proxy armies.
The Persians are on their back heel.
That's where they're...
Rushing to create a nuclear weapon.
President Trump is stepping into an unmitigated mess created by the fecklessness of Jake Sullivan and Tony Blinken and General Austin.
Of course, it looks like the couch at Animal House, the people that put this together, or the Addams Family.
And in Ukraine, the worst of all, and you're seeing now fissures in Europe, in the EU, based around These nations saying, as we told you they would, eventually, and Professor Mersheimer did it much better than we did it, and he did it a decade ago.
We led the Ukrainian people down the Primrose Path, and we got too uncomfortable for the elites, the Atlanticists in Washington, D.C., and in New York, and in Boston.
Never forget Boston when you're talking about Atlanticists.
Also the city of London and the capitals of Europe when it got too messy for them.
They would punch out.
And now they're punching out, having had the United States put in a quarter of a trillion dollars, $250 billion, into this failed effort.
Now, and Biden and these guys are teeing it up, that Zelensky is going to put Trump on the spot and say, no, the war can't come down.
We want to stop the killing.
We want to stop the suffering.
We want to stop all of that.
But, Mr. President, we need an American security guarantee.
We need an American security guarantee.
When you see American security guarantee, read combat troops of the deplorables, sons and daughters of the deplorables, as peacekeeping forces stationed in Ukraine.
That's the guarantee they're looking for.
More American money, and it's Ben Harnwell's done better than anybody.
The graft that they're thinking, the grift in the graft they're thinking in the trillion dollar rebuilding of Ukraine, where all the pigs are going to go to the trough.
To skim off the top these huge contracts to build Ukraine that your money, your tax dollars already went into destroying.
This is the forever war mentality.
This is what America First is trying to break.
This is what President Trump's trying to break.
As Jack Posobiec said the other day, so eloquently, invade everywhere, invite everybody.
You're trying to invade everywhere in the world and invite the entire world to come to the United States.
That's their mentality.
That's the mess they're in.
That's that three lines of work.
Stop the kinetic war.
Reverse the invasion on the southern border.
And more.
Now let's get into it to protect the American worker.
And, oh, by the way, let's thread the needle economically so that we can do this without blowing up our balance sheet and adding, I don't know, turn around and you get $50 trillion.
Of which the question I always ask people is, where did the money go?
I know the sources of proceeds.
The sources of proceeds were your tax dollars.
Your tax dollars.
And or if we couldn't pay for that in deficits, we just printed the money and put it on the balance sheet as debt and pay the interest so that your kids and grandkids will be, they really will be Russian serfs.
That's the system we've set up with the elites.
The concentration of wealth and power, hey, it works for them.
The model's pretty damn good.
It works.
Now we're breaking it.
Eventually to break it and take all the levers of power to seize the institutions that are rightfully yours.
Because remember, remember, it's all about democracy.
And you're winning elections.
And if you look at where the 2030 census is going to go...
And if they just did what Steve Bannon tried to do at the last census, which is not to include the illegal aliens, we didn't include the illegal aliens, you'd have another, I don't know, nine house seats.
And in 2030, with the demographic shift to the Sun Belt, to Florida and Texas and the Sun Belt, the American South, Arizona, other like-minded, even the American Redoubt up there in the Northwest.
Because common sense, decent people kind of run as limited government as they can and people can kind of gain the blessings of liberty.
And they kind of dig that.
So we're kind of sort of on the roll with Pennsylvania becoming the new Ohio.
New Jersey may be the new Pennsylvania.
And then guess what?
They're locked out.
If we do that and lock it down, then they're locked out to win any more presidential elections.
Think they like that?
That there'll be 40 or 50 years without executive power?
As we unify the executive to be both chief executive, both commander and chief, and, wait for it, chief magistrate, the chief law enforcement officer of the United States government, Donald J. Trump, you think that makes them feel good over the Merrick Garland household?
You think Lisa Monaco and her husband over a glass of wine at night?
You think they like that?
All these articles coming out saying they're really scared.
They're totally scared.
They're talking amongst each other.
Are they coming after us?
Well, we're coming after all of you that broke the law.
And went after decent folks and have put people in prison and bankrupted people?
Yep.
Yep.
Have to.
Has nothing to do with any kind of personal retribution.
It doesn't.
Doesn't with President Trump.
You have to do it for the good of this republic, and it will be done, as Mike Davis said today.
But in the interim, you know, Ian Burma's a pretty smart guy.
When Ian Burma says, now think about how far we've come.
We're supposed to be civilized people.
It's all the nation they run.
This is the law of the jungle.
Why is that?
How did this get to be the law of the jungle?
Let me think.
Hang on.
Let me think.
Let me think.
Oh, that's right.
The post-war international rules-based order.
It wasn't Donald Trump that smashed that.
Donald Trump tried to save it.
What Donald Trump said is that, hey...
We're upside down on all of our trade deals.
We're upside down on our commercial relationships.
We're paying for this, and our sons and daughters are implementing the security guarantee in Western Europe, called NATO, around the Persian Gulf and North Arabian Sea in Israel, all the way from Israel to Egypt to the Gulf Emirates, right?
And the carrier battle groups outside the Red Sea and the Persian Gulf and the North Arabian Sea.
And it's the Bannon family who are just regular schmendricks that go serve in the military, I don't know, from five to eight years.
You know, I'm in the Persian Gulf in the North Arabian Sea.
My kid brother's in the Qaddafi raid with the Pacific Fleet on the Qaddafi raid in, what, 84?
My nephews then deploy all over Hell's Half Acre on Navy ships and everywhere.
My daughter then comes out of West Point and goes to Iraq.
I don't know.
That's 40 years of Bannons all over the Middle East.
Just raising their hand and serving the country is just average schmoes to support the post-war international rules-based order.
Now where does that end?
All you guys are the biggest proponents of that.
How did that devolve into the law of the jungle?
Here's the law of the jungle.
You allowed it.
The elites in this country talked all the big game over the last couple of years.
President Trump and Russia, it's terrible, and Putin and Russia and Ukraine, oh poor Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine.
You guys had four years, you had unlimited power.
How did we get to the law of the jungle?
Where, what did he say?
The strong will do what they will, and the weak will suffer what they must?
Is that the world that the post-war international rules-based order, that this entire project and all the American blood and treasure to support that, that's where we are, the law of the jungle?
Isn't that what our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ came upon this earth, what, over 2,000 years ago to try to be that separation in mankind's...
History and mankind's evolution to draw that line of demarcation.
And 2,200 years later, with all the wealth and all the knowledge and all the scientific advancement, we're in a place that's not all that much different than first century Judea-Samaria under Roman rule.
Ian Bremmer right there.
One of the smartest guys.
He's a guy, he goes all over.
He's everywhere.
That little group he's got, I don't know, the Asia think tank.
He's got a think tank.
With all these bright guys walking, they're all geniuses.
Is that where we've come?
Is that where mankind's gone?
Is that where the elites have taken us?
The elites.
They had the deal here.
Richard Haas, all you guys in Morning Joe, you ran the deal, guys.
You ran the deal.
Not Trump.
Not MAGA. Hell, he tried to save NATO. Told them, you gotta step up and start paying for your own defense.
And they're starting to do it.
Because they said, you're not a protectorate of the United States.
We're not an imperial power.
We don't want to be an imperial power.
Our DNA was anti-imperialist.
We broke off from the most powerful empire in the world.
To do our own deal.
Our own thing.
The framers and founders warned us against that.
And so where are we now?
The law of the jungle.
Short break.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.
The Law of the Jungle...
steve bannon
Ben Harner was going to stick around.
He's making himself a pot of strong English tea right now to stay up with us.
He's live from Rome.
We're going to get into this Law of the Jungle.
The law of the jungle.
Doesn't make you feel good, right?
Of how much we progress, that that's where we are.
The strong will do what they will, and the weak suffer what they must.
Fine state of affairs.
This is what President Trump's stepping into.
And it's actually 10x more dangerous than it looks like on the surface.
This really is the beginning stage of the kinetic part of the Third World War.
Thank God in heaven that we got someone with the strength of President Trump and someone who puts fear into these bad guys, because that should not be lost on folks.
That is a very important element of getting this thing sorted.
I might add that outside the one time he launched the cruise missiles in Syria on bad information, they launched the cruise missiles in Syria.
There was no other, I think, act of...
There might have been a couple of raids or something, but it was a peaceful and prosperous term.
You know why?
He's a man of peace.
He's definitely not a gunslinger.
He's not a John Bolton type or these guys that walk around and they can't wait to invade something or start shooting something up.
So in times of turbulence, gold has always been an alternative investment and, quite frankly, a hedge.
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You get the end of the dollar empire.
No, Rachel Maddow.
We're not trying to bring down the end of the dollar.
We're trying to save it.
Now, being the world's prime reserve currency should be part of a national debate that we hope to drive over the next couple of years of whether we want to do that or not.
But we've been doing it for, I don't know, ever since Bretton Woods.
So we just can't walk away.
It's not that easy, particularly with the debt that we have and how we finance that debt.
You think your credit cards are bad now at 25% APR? Well, hey, if we were not the world's private reserve currency and they had to take the dollar, everybody in the world had to transact in it.
It is the world's, our number one export.
It was not that.
We would be like Argentina in the old days.
Birchgold.com slash Bannon, the end of the dollar empire.
Modern monetary theory, the idea that broke the world.
We have, I don't know, roughly $300 trillion of debt at every...
You know, every tranche, every level, from private debt, personal debt, all the way up to government debt, and transnational, you know, some of this debt that's from some of these transnational organizations.
And I think we're going to go through a margin call.
That's not going to be pretty, folks.
We had one of those in 2008. The next one we have could even be uglier.
So make sure you prepare, at least understand.
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You don't have to be a prepper to put your common sense and say, hey, maybe I ought to be prepared.
Right?
You don't need to be a guy, oh, you know, you're digging the basement out, so protect as a bomb shelter.
Some people do that, and some people may turn out to be wise.
They may be like, no one is Ark.
Never know.
Don't bet against it.
When Ian Bremmer is telling you it's the law of the jungle, because folks, they got some folks in the world, when you say law of the jungle, they're predators, and they'll be all over you.
Okay?
So don't be laughing at the preppers.
You go to MyPagerSupply now, it sounds like common sense.
When it first started and the folks started doing that, they used to mock and ridicule them.
They ain't mocking and ridiculing anymore.
It's kind of like Noah when the clouds first started to rain.
Hey, maybe we should have signed up for that deal.
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Mike Lindell, Brother Lindell.
It's a day like today, and Mike, I want to commemorate this day.
With you, you and I didn't even know each other, really.
We had met, we had not met on January 6th.
We didn't meet until a couple weeks afterwards in that we both came, you know, we both knew the election was stolen.
We were kind of working on it from separate angles.
And you came on the show, I think, the last week of January, right after the president went back to Mar-a-Lago.
You came on and then became a regular.
And people forget, in 2021, Mike Lindell, I think, was on the show every day because you were at the tip of the election integrity.
And people say, well, all he did was waste his time.
If Mike Lindell and those folks out there had not gotten on election integrity, you wouldn't have had a safe election this time.
You wouldn't.
And still, we've got a long way to go.
Paper ballots, same-day voting where President Trump supports.
Get rid of the machines.
But the effort that you and Cleta Mitchell and so many others, Steve Stern, they got that big call tomorrow, give a shout-out tomorrow.
Steve Stern and the team still hammered, still trying to get our elections to be bulletproof.
If it had not been for you guys in 2021, just like the great turnaround for Trump, We wouldn't be here today at full spectrum dominance taking over every aspect of the American government.
Mike Lindell.
mike lindell
Well, and Steve, let's not forget, back then when lawfare started, we lost all the Fox News and Newsmax of the world.
If it wouldn't have been for your show, my voice wouldn't have been heard.
And so it was a blessing that we did a divine meeting back then.
And just like tonight, I'm gonna do my first call of the year out to the cause of America, thousands of people, and that goes out to tens of thousands, and telling them all the plan going forward, all their work.
Some are saying, well, Donald Trump's in, it's over.
No, we've got a lot of work to do.
We gotta secure our election platforms, and we are gonna do that.
So, you go back four years, it's been quite a four years.
But if Donald Trump, everybody had been put in back in November and December of 2020, I believe we'd have lost our country forever.
Because we wouldn't have known everything we know now.
We wouldn't have, people are, look at you got people like Mark Zuckerbuck going down to Mar-a-Lago.
What is he turning into a conservative?
I mean, the onion's getting open up and people are starting to see the light.
And our voices have gotten so much bigger.
And so I'm very...
I'm very encouraged.
I said these last four years, people say, well, Mike, you know, election platforms aren't secure.
Steve, I said it before.
We broke through the biggest crime or the biggest cover-up of the biggest crime in history.
We broke through the biggest crime.
That part is done.
We were able to expose it all through a relentless, just our voices over and over and over again, telling the truth, putting the truth out there every day.
And then they told two friends and two friends and so on and so on.
We didn't need the Foxes and Newsmax of the world to get the word out.
All we needed was us to be able to keep expanding on our voice.
And it worked.
And here we are today, four years later, and we broke through the cover-up.
Anyway, I want to thank the war room.
I'll quick get in the flannel sheets, everybody.
unidentified
Get your flannel sheets.
steve bannon
Mike, hang on.
We'll hold you over to the start of the second hour.
Short break.
Back in the worm.
For hour two in the late afternoon, early evening show.
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