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Jan. 7, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4175: Mainstream Fear Their Loss Of Narrative Surrounding J6
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kamala harris
I did what I have done my entire career, which is take seriously the oath that I have taken many times to support and defend the Constitution of the United States, which included today performing my constitutional duties to ensure that the people of America, the voters of America, will have their votes counted, that those votes matter, and that they will determine then the outcome of an election.
I do believe very strongly That America's democracy is only as strong as our willingness to fight for it.
Every single person, their willingness to fight for and respect the importance of our democracy.
Otherwise, it is very fragile, and it will not be able to withstand moments of crisis.
And today, America's democracy stood.
mika brzezinski
Vice President Harris, after the certification of the 2024 election results, pointing out the stark contrast between yesterday and what took place four years ago yesterday when a mob of Trump supporters stormed the Capitol in an effort to block what is usually a mundane certification process.
harry enten
Take a look here.
All right.
January 6th is the biggest memory of Trump's first term.
Look at this.
unidentified
Wow.
That is something.
It's just 5%.
harry enten
I mean, most folks, simply put, were willing to dismiss it without much of an issue.
And among Republicans, what do we see?
It was just 2%.
So even though you had that significant chunk of Republicans who said, we oppose it, even though the vast majority of Americans opposed it, the bottom line, when it came to November, even when it comes now, most Americans, simply put, Manu, are not.
sunny hostin
I think we need to find moral clarity, you know, in this country.
And I just remember after January 6th, you had someone like Mitch McConnell placing the blame on January 6th where it belonged squarely on Donald Trump's shoulders.
And then you started seeing people backtrack that and losing their moral center.
You had Condoleezza Rice, I believe, on this very show saying, you know, we need to move on from January 6th.
I say no.
You don't move on because January 6th was an atrocity.
It was one of the worst.
Worst moments in American history.
And when you think about the worst moments in American history, you know, like World War II, things that happened, you know, like the Holocaust, chattel slavery.
We need to never forget, because past becomes prologue if you forget any race.
unidentified
And I would say one thing about the rewriting of history that's so crazy is this was all on video.
You can see the rioters beat the police and drag people down the steps and use the American flag to assault people.
You can hear them chant, hang my pencils.
So, you know, it's just crazy to me that the effort to rewrite...
The history of January 6th has been as successful as it has been when you do have so much video of exactly what happened that day for anybody who wants to see it to see.
If you woke up on January 7th of 2021 with the glass still shattered on the floor of the Capitol and the smoke rising and the troops are surrounding the building and you had said that Donald Trump will be president in four years, nobody would have believed that.
Anybody who says that today is not telling you the truth.
We weren't 100% sure he was going to make it out two more weeks.
Broadly speaking, it turned out that his electorate still wanted him and that held power over the elected officials who didn't.
And that's the real story here is that they did not find What he did on January 6th to be disqualifying, and therefore the Congress and the elected officials went along with it.
John, January 7th, 2020-21, there were certainly not a majority of Americans that would think Donald Trump would retake the White House, but he is about to.
Does that tell us that Americans, as a whole, are okay with what happened four years ago today?
So, number one, absolutely not.
I don't think that that tells us that the majority of Americans are okay with January 6th.
What I think it tells us is that a lot of Americans who voted for Donald Trump, a lot of Americans who are not all right with January 6th, do not prioritize that over some of the other things that Donald Trump was offering.
Certainly part of his base is happy with January 6th.
You can tell because Donald Trump has exalted the people who are convicted of crimes on January of the January 6th crimes as patriots, as people who have been treated poorly by their government rather than prosecuted for crimes.
So there's absolutely a piece of that Donald Trump base that really loves it.
But there's also a set of voters who voted for Donald Trump who do not think that's appropriate, but also do not prioritize it.
joy reid
This is January 6th.
From that day forward.
And pretending that this is no longer what today means is, to put it bluntly, an insult.
To every cop that was injured that day, every terrified congressional staffer and member, every Capitol worker who had to clean up the feces the Trump mob smeared on the walls, and to every decent notion anyone ever had about this country.
It's also a lie.
It's a lie most Republicans and even some of the media want to tell you because it makes Republicans feel better.
And apparently making Republicans feel better is really important.
Since while their elected officials hid in terror with every single Democrat, the party itself very quickly changed their minds, led by Trump and their favorite billionaire news channel, Rupert Murdoch's Fox.
They created a new big lie that January 6th was just a normal tourist occasion and really not that big of a deal.
Well, you know what?
Sorry, but it was a big deal.
It was an insurrection.
The first violent sacking of our Capitol since the War of 1812. Trump's second impeachment was literally for the incitement of an insurrection.
And the idea of forgetting that, of just moving on and pretending there's no harm, no foul, and preparing to quietly reinstall the chief insurrectionist without comment, is frankly a shameful idea.
The fact that so few voters found his actions disqualifying, the Supreme Court conservatives' negation of the Constitution's insurrection clause so our shameless Chief Justice John Roberts could clear the way for his re-election, all of it is, sorry, utterly shameful.
Today is not a day to commemorate.
Yes, we've got to do it because that's what some of y'all voted for or failed to vote and cleared the way for, but for God's sakes.
Let's at least have the decency and dignity to be a little embarrassed.
Embarrassed.
For the most cynical of political parties.
For their supposed dear leader.
For his billionaire bosses who paid to reinstall him.
And for anyone who dismissed January 6, 2021 as not a deal breaker.
For the man for whom the violence occurred to be president again.
You do realize the rest of the world can see us, right?
And 14 days from today.
You will hear many soberly and reverently laud the peaceful transfer of power.
Well, I hate to be the fly at the picnic table, but you can't peacefully transfer power to an insurrectionist simply because it took them an extra four years to finish the job.
This was a violent transfer of power.
The most violent in U.S. history, if we're being honest.
harry enten
Take a look here.
Alright.
January 6th is the biggest memory of Trump's first term.
Look at this.
unidentified
Wow.
That is something.
It's just 5%.
harry enten
I mean, most folks, simply put, were willing to dismiss it without much of an issue.
And among Republicans, what do we see?
It was just 2%.
So even though you had that significant chunk of Republicans who said, we oppose it, even though the vast majority of Americans opposed it, the bottom line, when it came to November, even when it comes now, most Americans, simply put, Manu, are not thinking about it.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
You're just not going to get a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
harry enten
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
steve bannon
Tuesday, 7 January in the year of our Lord 2025.
Think about where we were four years ago this morning in I think where we are today.
That accomplishment is because of two reasons.
The moral courage of President Donald J. Trump to return to the field of combat.
And in this audience, having the absolute complete confidence in their judgment.
And having President Trump's back in those darkest days of January, February, March, April, May of 2021, when Rupert Murdoch sent out a memo, an email to his team, they're going to make Trump a non-person.
The entire political apparatus, the entire corporate apparatus, the media apparatus, the big tech, all of it.
All of the institutions of the most powerful nation on earth.
Contemplate that for a second.
All of the institutions.
unidentified
Unanimous.
steve bannon
In total unanimity on one thing, that Donald Trump was the enemy of this country, and most importantly, his followers were insurrectionists.
Everything they did to you, everything they did to him, you weren't pervious to it.
Last night was absolutely an eye-opener that the mainstream media will not give this up, and they are stunned and shocked that their propaganda over the last four years We have many, many, many more battles before us.
And in fact, I'm quite concerned that people are not taking seriously or seriously enough the battles we have ahead of us.
They are out.
Don't believe, don't think for a second that they have dropped their principal angle of attack was to destroy Trump.
And by destroying Trump, destroy the movement around Trump, because now they understand this movement is incredibly powerful, and growing in power every day, and growing in scale every day, and bringing in new adherents every day.
It's only going to get bigger and bigger and bigger, and this movement is going to reorder the political and economic structure of this nation, and therefore in doing it, the world.
To bring peace and prosperity, to stop the forever wars, and to stop the mindset of the invade everywhere, invite everyone, globalist elite that run this country.
Just always remember, four years ago this morning, remember that.
It's more important than four years ago tomorrow morning, because the incident had not happened yet.
Mike Pence had not portrayed us that.
When we left the show at noon, It had not happened.
We pulled yesterday the live broadcast at 5 o'clock, but it was still going on.
We had Ben Burkwam on the scene.
It was the day, the morning after.
The morning after the work really started.
You could have gone into, and let's be blunt, a large portion of your, I shouldn't say a large portion, but a portion of your compadres ran.
Curled up in the fetal position.
Now we got many more adherents at the same time, people who wanted to fight.
That's what was important, is the people that wanted to fight.
And we still got a fight.
We got a bigger fight now.
Because now we are just about to grasp the levers of power.
And in seizing the institutions and grabbing the levers of power, it's not going to be that easy.
It's not going to be that simple.
You're already seeing the huge fight we're having.
That someone has gotten into...
And talk about the scale before I get to the two bills versus one.
Lead story on the Hill newspaper.
The Hill newspaper is not Breitbart.
It's not Gateway Pundit.
It's not the War Room.
It's the Hill.
It's now the people that have the One Nation or have the new network.
The Tribune people.
Own this.
You know, Jimmy's gone.
Finkelstein.
What's the lead story on the Hill this morning?
People in the Senate are concerned about an investigation that has to take place on who knew what went about Biden and the deterioration of Biden and Biden not really running this administration for the last couple of years.
Well, it's far deeper than that.
The investigation into the steal of 2020, the investigation into the Fed's direction of January 6th.
The investigation, the deep investigation into Joe Biden, this illegitimate regime.
The illegitimate regime.
Remember, at high noon, on the 20th of January, 2021, I referred to it as an illegitimate regime, and I said, we're going to pound that until it's into the American psyche.
It's into the American psyche, and it's seeped into the United States Senate.
They're worried.
The biggest crime, among many crimes, Of this administrative state, this deep state, to destroy this constitutional republic.
And the only thing that stopped them was the moral courage and the bravery, the physical bravery of one man, Donald J. Trump, and a group of followers that said, fix bayonets.
We're not going to back down.
We're going to double down.
We're not going to surrender.
We're going to go to victory.
We're not going to retreat.
We're going to advance.
Matt Boyle, one of the great fighters, next in the war room.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
steve bannon
Matt Boyle joins us now.
Matt, they were in total and complete meltdown yesterday.
And one of the things they're most...
We've destroyed them.
They're in their head.
They can't believe with all the power and all the media and CBS and NBC and the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal and all of it, that it was the War Room and Breitbart and a handful of sites.
That changed the narrative about J6 and got to the truth.
The American people saw that, too.
I can play that thing of Harry Enten, who I think is a very good pollster, showing the guy in the morning show only 5% of the people even related to Trump.
And he gasped.
They can't believe it.
They choke on it.
Walk me through where we are, brother.
matthew boyle
Yeah, look, I think that the establishment media, this whole J6 thing is a really good example of this.
It's probably the best example we've seen in the last several years, where the establishment media gets so glommed on to one thing and they're just convinced they're right, and the average person out there around the country is just not paying attention to it or doesn't care about it or doesn't have the concerns that they do.
They're so on a touch, these establishment media people.
And again, you saw it yesterday.
People didn't care about this in this election.
Not just all those media outlets you just named.
I mean, they literally hired at the J6 committee.
Nancy Pelosi brought in the head of ABC News, right?
Like, to run the thing and do it as a primetime production.
And nobody cared.
steve bannon
Right?
matthew boyle
Like, it's like, you know, at a certain point, it's like these folks are totally focused on the wrong stuff.
And frankly, this is what's given an opening to people like us at Breitbart, like you guys at the Wurrum, and other, you know, I hate to even call us like the conservative media at this point.
We're just like, we're the mainstream media, right?
Like, we're stepping up and covering the things that people care about and talking about the issues that people care about and stepping into the void that they're leaving behind.
You want to know why there's major problems across the entire establishment legacy media, if you will?
Why are people leaving the Washington Post?
It's like watching Sports Free Agency or something.
We're watching the baseball offseason right now, and all these players are moving from team to team.
That's the same thing happening across the establishment media.
But why is this happening?
Why are they all in shambles right now?
It's because they're all focused on the world.
And that's why what we're going to do at Breitbart as we head into the new administration here with the Trump round two is we're just doubling down with what we have.
We're making some internal promotions and we're bringing folks to Washington, some of them back to Washington, to really double down on it and to just go after the stories that everybody else...
It's so sad because as a journalist, I'm somebody who believes in journalism.
I want...
Journalism to succeed.
But the fact is that I watch, and it would be super easy to fix these places, right?
Like the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, right?
All these places could be fixed in a heartbeat if they just made a couple of minor structural changes and focus changes.
But they're not interested in that because they're interested in the preservation of the globalist establishment and not holding these powerful forces accountable.
And by the way, I would argue we're winning this war.
Look at what just happened today with Meta and Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg coming out and literally ending the fact check thing.
Now, look, I don't think it's over yet.
We're not done yet, but we're winning.
steve bannon
No, no, no.
That's just a surrender.
I put it up on Getter.
By the way, Mike Allen in action has a magnificent piece of Matt Boyle.
Great photo of Matt and the president in an interview about Breitbart and their new experience.
Expansion into coverage of Matt's going to return to the Capitol.
Other things are going to happen inside of Breitbart, have even more coverage of Trump up close and personal, the administration.
But the problem you've got, it's the billionaire owners, the Murdochs, the Bezos.
These are tools, whether it's the Wall Street Journal or Fox News, or it's the Washington Post.
Right?
Or the New York Times.
These Bayonair families, it's their point of view.
It's the neoliberal, neocon, established order perspective.
That's a, yeah, you can make some structural changes, but as long as you've got that mentality and it flows through, like the editorial page of the Wall Street Journal is one of the most embarrassing.
You would think they would get rid of people after they've been dead wrong about everything since, I don't know, let me pick a random date, 2015?
unidentified
2014?
steve bannon
Maybe 2012?
Remember, they were all there.
They're all skipping around for Romney.
Romney and Paul Ryan are going to win.
They're dead wrong on everything.
Dead wrong.
They're supposed to be capitalists, and capitalism, if you fail, you get the boot, you get the hook.
Go ahead, Matt.
matthew boyle
It goes back even further than that, Steve.
It goes back to the Bushes, right?
Bush 41, and then Clinton, and then Bush 43, and then Obama.
This globalist experiment that we saw, I mean, Clinton did NAFTA, right?
That was a huge part of the mistakes of Washington, right?
And then, you know, obviously you had the Bush, both Bushes doing all these wars and adventurism in the Middle East.
And then and then Obama with the, you know, the full blown globalist, you know, pushing, you know, the takeover, the you know, what they did with this in the response to the financial crisis in 2008 and auto bailout and all this stuff.
The fact is, is that the total political this is a total rejection of the complete and total rejection by the American people, the political class in its entirety.
And and so, again, the fact is, is that something's going to change.
There needs to be some real serious change.
These people, they've learned nothing.
steve bannon
They're not going to change.
They're like the Bourbons.
I think it was Voltaire who said about the Bourbons before the French Revolution.
They've learned nothing and they've forgotten nothing.
Just hang on for one second.
I want to bring Jason Turner.
The favorite paper of the War Room is the Financial Times of London.
Jillian Tett.
Jason, you've had a chance to take a look at it.
I know you've been at the very forefront, you and Scott Besson, E.J. and Tony, Peter Navarro, others, and kind of rethinking through the economics of what Trump's populist nationalist movement is.
Give me your assessment of this article.
What can people glean from it?
unidentified
Well, I think people can glean from it the idea that China joining the WTO wound up being a massive wealth transfer from the American middle class to the Chinese middle class.
And, of course, everyone in the U.S. Chamber of Commerce loved it because it meant more profits for them.
But we largely kneecapped the working class in the United States.
And that was seen as a very heterodox view before President Trump came along, but is increasingly being seen as a more mainstream consensus view now.
There are very few things Democrats and Republicans can agree upon right now, but I would say one of the things they can agree upon is that China is seen as, at best, an economic rival and, at worst, an enemy.
And I think we have to focus more on the true concepts of free trade or reciprocity of trade.
If you really had free trade, these trade agreements, these multilateral trade agreements, would not be thousands of pages long.
They'd be a half a page long.
And say, you know, there are no tariffs between any of us.
But that's not the case.
There are always carve-outs.
There are always political exceptions.
And that's why this generally tends to favor Are you pretty shocked that Jillian, who's a renowned and kind of revered figure over at the FT, that she wrote an article that gives accessibility?
steve bannon
If you read the comments on the website, it blows me away.
Are people saying it's the first time I've really had an explanation from a major journal of what Meganomics is, and it doesn't sound that radical?
They may not agree with it, but it doesn't sound that radical.
Does it shock you that our beloved Financial Times is finally waking up?
unidentified
I have to tell you, it surprises me because I have a subscription to the Financial Times.
And if you read the paper on a regular basis, there's very few things that they agree with with regard to the Trump administration.
It's a very globalist.
That's very much focused on the post-war international rules-based order.
And anything that would question that is seen as somewhat retrograde, right?
So I am somewhat surprised.
And it does, as you were talking about before, perhaps unlike the Bourbons, there are some people at the FT that are actually starting to learn something and understanding what...
Why there's such political angst, not just in the United States, but around the world.
That people enjoy being part of a sovereign nation.
They don't want to be part of one globalist.
No, it's a major, it's really a seminal moment in our movement.
steve bannon
Peter Navarro, really an incredible...
Story about him, about his career, about his thinking from Harvard, and really the underlying economics of the MAGA movement and President Trump's populist nationalism.
It's done in a very even-handed way, critical where it should be, but really talks about the collapse of kind of the David Ricardos from what the 18th century, his thinking from the 18th century.
So a seminal moment.
Jason, where do people get you while we have time to get you?
Where do people go to get your common man index you've got?
unidentified
Common man CPI, so they can go to www.strategusrp.com or at Jason Trenert underscore on X. Brother, thank you so much.
steve bannon
Appreciate you.
unidentified
Thank you, sir.
Thank you.
steve bannon
Trenert.
One of the architects, Scott Besson, Peter Navarro, Jason Trennan, E.J. Antone, Steve Cortez.
Who else?
Oh, Dave Brat.
The Dave Brat.
The collection of thinkers around the war in the last couple of years.
Huge article in the Financial Times of London.
A seminal moment.
The, not embrace of economics, but at least let's study it, think about it, see what President Trump's really talking about on trade and tariffs.
The great Matt Boll's going to hang around.
We've got Tom Fenton, Eric Prince.
We're going to go live to Mar-a-Lago around 11 o'clock when the president-elect 47 steps to the microphone.
Donald J. Trump this morning at 11 o'clock.
Short break.
We have 90 minutes left in the morning show.
And here's who we have.
Matt Boyle, Tom Fitton, Eric Prince, and then Donald J. Trump.
Ladies, that's 27 Yankees right there.
That's Murderer's Row.
I can't believe this kind of lined up this way.
It's incredible.
Boyle, Fitton, Eric Prince, and Donald Trump.
Bat and clean up, Donald Trump.
What a show.
I'm just here, just watch it.
Birch Gold, Times of Turbulence.
Think President Trump's going to talk a little bit today.
He's giving a press conference.
Hope one of the questions is two bills versus one bill.
Can't have an omnibus.
Can't have a summer omnibus.
We'll be so bled out.
We will be bled white by that time.
Gotta have one.
Gotta get on it now.
Gotta have something on the border.
Immigration.
Energy.
Maybe throw a little defense in there, but get on it now.
Hit them with 50 executive orders.
Bang, bang, bang.
Muzzle velocity.
Do it now.
Gonna be times of turbulence already seen in the bond market.
Yes, you are.
Also seen in the British bond market, the guilt.
Yes, you are.
I don't think the bond market thinks that deflation's finished, although Bernanke came out yesterday and said President Trump's plan does not look inflationary to him.
I agree with that.
But we've got to get on with it.
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Matt's going to hang with us.
Prince is on deck.
I've got to bring in Tom Fenton, the great Tom Fenton.
Tom, when you put these videos up, which, man, I absolutely love.
I don't know if you're in the coffee room over there.
These are impromptu, but they're so powerful.
The one yesterday blew me away.
You now have evidence about Fonny Willis and Nancy Pelosi colluding together on this vast criminal conspiracy against President Trump and other J6ers.
Judicial Watch is the go-to.
It's the People's Justice Department, sir.
What do you got for us?
unidentified
You know, pretty simple request.
We asked for records about...
Her communications with the January 6th committee, the Pelosi operation there, Jack Smith Justice Department.
And I think they told us one, two, three, four times they had no documents.
We said, well, hold on a second.
There's at least one letter, Jordan released, showing that Fannie herself wrote a letter to Benny Thompson, I think.
And so we sued.
And they didn't even bother to show up in court and answer a lawsuit.
They went into default.
Which, you know, you don't have to be a lawyer to understand.
If you don't show up in court and you're a government agency, that's kind of a big deal.
And the court said, you not only need to show up, you need to give Judicial Watch the documents, search for records.
And lo and behold, they found a bunch of records.
And they don't want to give them to us.
So now we've got proof positive there's a series of records communications between the January 6th committee and the so-called independent investigation in Fulton County to target Trump on January 6th.
Of course, that was what over what he was indicted for was his activities related to trying to defend free and fair elections and dispute the Biden election victory to use it, use the term in quotes.
And so we caught her.
She finally had to fess up to having documents.
And just last night, the court told her she has to give us Her office has to give us $20,000 in attorney's fees for what she did here.
So we're still in the middle of the battle of getting the darn documents, but we forced her to fess up that she had them to begin with after her telling us, and frankly the court repeatedly, there was no there there.
steve bannon
Tom, we keep talking about this.
There's got to be an investigation totally open about the 2020 election, the whole Fed's election on J6, and now the Hill's lead story about the Senate, about now they're starting to ask the question amongst each other, like, how do we investigate Biden not even being on the job for the last two years?
Right?
And that's their admission, not ours, their admission.
What's the Dishawatch?
Since you guys really kind of always keep the big picture and drill down and get the receipts, what is your recommendation?
Well, if I were President Trump, I would appoint a special counsel directly.
unidentified
I wouldn't allow the Justice Department to do the investigation.
I wouldn't allow the FBI to do the investigation.
They have to be the subjects of the investigation.
And the president has the power to appoint special prosecutors directly out of the White House.
And that's how any criminal investigation into what went on here should be done.
Certainly, Congress has an interest in understanding how it is our government was run for four years by an oligarchy, where a president, it's now been confirmed six ways to Sunday, was mentally out to lunch.
Of course, he was also compromised by his China and Russia money.
Which led, in my view, to the invasion of Ukraine and Chinese adventurism and attacks on American sovereignty.
All that ought to be part of the investigations as well.
tom fitton
You know, the challenge for Congress, even if they wanted to do the right thing and had the capacities, is that, you know, with the corruption here in D.C., there are a thousand fires on the horizon.
unidentified
And where do you send your resources to to uncover, combat, and make sure they don't spread further?
And that should be the only question, is not what they investigate, is how much they investigate, because there's just so much to be done.
And, of course, we've got our independent FOIA cases, right?
We filed a lawsuit for Ashley Babbitt, for instance.
I mean, her killing.
Is Congress to ask any questions about her killing by a U.S. Capitol Hill police officer?
steve bannon
Tom, the reason that Judicial Watch is revered and you're beloved in this movement is that you guys have an amazing track record.
I've known you now, I think, for 10, 12 years of under-promising and over-performing.
I just want to repeat.
Tom Fenton is advising President Trump that he should immediately install...
A special counsel, a special prosecutor, independent from the Justice Department, to go through all of it and to staff it up however he's got to staff it up, but to go through.
And when you do special counsel, special prosecutors, these are criminal investigations.
I just want to make sure I'm clear.
That is what you're recommending to President Trump?
unidentified
That's right.
And, you know, I'll leave it to the lawyers to figure out how that process would work and how grand juries could be impaneled and how they could partner with U.S. attorneys and such.
But there's got to be a separation between the Justice Department.
This isn't on a diss on Pam Bondi or Kash Patel, God help us, that's for sure.
This is a recognition the agencies are compromised.
And they will spend half their time fighting the tens of thousands of James Comeys and Andrew McCabe's and Peter Strzok's and Lisa Page's who will be there.
For a good period of time, opposing everything they do.
This is why, you know, I always go back to the, remember the movie of Kevin Costner?
Battling the mobster in Chicago.
I'm forgetting the name.
steve bannon
The Untouchables.
unidentified
The Untouchables.
I remember the jury was compromised at the end of the movie.
And what did the judge do?
He said, you know what?
Bring in the jury from the next courtroom.
steve bannon
Yes.
unidentified
The FBI and DOJ's compromise is to bring in a new set of investigators completely untouched by that operation.
steve bannon
Sean Connery's word of advice to young Kevin Costner.
unidentified
They're right now working on a report at the Justice Department to smear Trump through this Jack Smith operation.
steve bannon
Trump last night moved to hold the report until they take over, which is the thing to do.
Jack Smith's a criminal.
Sean Connery's advice to the young Elliot Ness, played by Kevin Koshner, is that when they bring a knife, you bring a gun.
Right?
That's what has to happen here.
Tom, where do people go to find out more about Judicial Watch?
One of the great institutions that have been created on the right.
Where do they go to track you on social media, sir?
unidentified
Well, you can go to judicialwatch.org.
We're on X. We're also on Facebook, which is, I guess, a new free land under the Zuckerberg regime.
So we're everywhere.
Judicialwatch.org, all over social media.
I've got a great new book out, Your Rights and Freedoms in Peril.
If they want to know what Trump should be doing and what the crisis is that has to be confronted by this new administration, the book is well worth picking up.
steve bannon
Fantastic.
Go to Amazon to get that.
Tom Fitton, you're a hero and a patriot.
Thank you very much for joining us this morning.
unidentified
You're welcome.
Thank you.
steve bannon
So, Boyle, when Tom Fitton's calling for a special prosecutor, folks, this is how things roll.
This is how things get started.
Tom Fitton's a revered guy in President Trump's inner circle.
Tom Fitton doesn't say a lot, but when he says something, people pay attention.
Matt, you've known this.
You've worked with Tom for over a decade.
Your thoughts, sir?
matthew boyle
Yeah, look, I think he's right.
I think the president has to run this out of the White House, right?
And so, that being said, and I agree with him 100% too, I have great admiration for Pam Bondi.
unidentified
I've known her for a decade, known Cash for even longer.
matthew boyle
I think the world of both of them.
The fact is that I do think this has to come out of the White House because it's so...
All-encompassing, right?
There's so many facets to all of this, right?
There's the president, the current outgoing president of the United States, or so they say, that has not really been in command of things.
I mean, this is uncharted waters, by the way, in and of itself, right?
We've never had a president that is so gone as Biden is.
I mean, this needs to come from the White House.
And so I agree with Tom.
I hope that President Trump sees that and is listening.
Next time I talk to him, if I do soon, which I hope I will, I will talk to him about this.
I will bring it up with him.
I hope that President Trump takes the actions from the White House.
steve bannon
I want to make sure it's very important because the media follows this show closely.
I want to make sure that we're right on our nomenclature.
And ladies and gentlemen, this is why what Tom Fitton just recommended is so important.
Remember, they had talked about when Gates was going to be Attorney General, they also talked about maybe a special prosecutor appointed by the Attorney General or working over there.
Pam Bondi and Cash in their jobs as...
Head of DOJ with all the cleanup they've got to do with that rat's nest, Pam Bondi, and you've seen the team around her with Todd and Emil and all that.
You've got then Cash over at FBI. He's got to clean all that out.
What Tom Fenton's calling for, and what Matt Bull's recommending also, is that a special prosecutor be appointed, I guess, by the president.
Right?
By the president.
Because this gets back to that unified theory of the executive.
He is the chief executive officer.
He's the commander-in-chief.
He's also the chief magistrate.
And their nose is going to have to be rubbed in this.
By the Constitution, he's the chief law enforcement officer of the country.
Matt, we've got about 60 seconds.
I'd love to hang around for the next one.
Your thoughts?
matthew boyle
Yeah, look, I think that I don't know if you call it a special counsel or whatever the terminology is, but it's somebody that directly reports to the president that has broad investigative authority, subpoena power, law enforcement powers, etc.
You know, and again, is run directly out of the White House that could dig into.
Basically everything, right?
Like, I mean, the whole thing, the whole swamp, right?
We want to drain the swamp.
This is our shot.
We've never had a shot like this ever before.
And there's so much to pick at.
There's so much to dig into.
And I agree with the thing that Tom said there that really stuck with me is that it's just like how much and where do you focus and how many fires do you go after?
I mean, from, you know, covering this stuff for the better part of the last 15 years, I mean, I can tell you there's a million different ways you can go at any given moment.
And so you need somebody that has broad authority, broad powers to be able to accomplish that.
steve bannon
A special prosecutor, somebody that has subpoena power, can panel a grand jury.
Matt, hang on for one second.
I know you've got to bounce, but just hang on one second.
and Eric Prince, the President of the United States, Donald Trump, all of it next in the War Room.
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Matt, I'm so proud of the job you've done.
You're a true warrior.
Matt, as folks know, is the only living human being to have worked for Andrew Breitbart, Tucker Carlson, and Steve Bannon and survived.
Matt, you've got a few upgrades you're doing at Breitbart.
Before you bounce, tell us what you guys are doing.
matthew boyle
Yeah, so we're making an intense focus on coverage of this new administration, and we're going to step into the void that the establishment media is leaving open for us again.
The first big thing is that we've named Nick Gilbertson, one of our top political reporters here at Breitbart, is going to be our new White House correspondent.
The second big thing is that Bradley Jay, who's been a reporter for us for the last couple years and worked for a number of different top conservatives on Capitol Hill before that in the House, And in the Senate, he got his start actually working under Stephen Miller, who is going to be, obviously, top immigration aide to President Trump in the White House.
But Bradley Jay worked for him in the Senate in Jeff Sessions' office back in the very early days of this immigration battle that we've seen in the aftermath of the 2012 election.
But Bradley's going to be our deputy politics editor and going to work with me on working with a lot of our reporters.
We've named Olivia Rondo, who's covered breaking news, general breaking news for us, to be a new political reporter.
So she's going to work with us on Capitol Hill.
And then both me and Christina Wong, who's our Pentagon correspondent, are going to be back in D.C.
So I'm going back part time.
I've been in Florida for the last four years riding out the Biden presidency.
But we're going to be back up there quite a bit.
So we're storming into the Washington.
We're going to take this swamp by force here.
unidentified
We've got to have some people.
steve bannon
Brother, where do people go to get you at Breitbart?
Where do they get you on social media?
matthew boyle
Yeah, just go to Breitbart.com.
I'm on X, Twitter, at MBoyle1, and we're at TrueSocial at RealMapBoyle.
steve bannon
I think one of the last moves I made at Breitbart was to get Matt Boyle off social media, so make sure you see him back on there.
Boyle, love you.
Look forward to seeing you back up in the Imperial Capital.
matthew boyle
I will be there.
See you soon.
steve bannon
Eric Prince, you're one of the best geostrategic thinkers in the world.
Please help me out here.
I'm just a simple country boy.
We have two carrier battle groups in the Red Sea defending the sea lanes for the Suez Canal so that the European elites can have their trade.
You got American young men and women out there.
We're taking incoming from the Houthis.
They shot down, correct me if I'm wrong, or they purportedly shot down, or we shot down our own F-18.
I happen to think they did it.
We just almost shot down a second.
We're in an actual gunfight off of Yemen.
Am I reading this correctly?
Did Joe Biden just release from Gitmo a dozen or 20 Houthis to go back to Yemen?
Did I read that correctly, or is that some parody account, sir?
unidentified
No, I'm afraid that's not a parody account, Steve.
Indeed, they did release a number of Yemenis, supposedly to custody in Oman.
But, you know, there's plenty of close relationship there, so I would not be surprised if they're fully released back into...
General circulation where they can continue their malevolent behavior.
It is truly an irrational move.
I don't even understand what the administration is thinking.
Yes, just as recently as less than two weeks ago, the Navy, U.S. Navy, shot down one of its F-18s while it was on final, flying back into to land on a U.S. aircraft carrier.
I almost shot down a second one were it not for the invasive maneuvers of the pilot.
steve bannon
Eric, Eric, Eric, haven't been on a destroyer, around a carrier battle group in the North Arabian Sea, in the Persian Gulf?
I don't buy that.
I don't buy it.
It almost boggles the imagination that a fire control solution could come up on an F-18 with everything that we have sophisticated.
I think they shot it down and were just afraid to admit it.
A drone shot it down or whatever.
It's impossible.
I just can't imagine.
All the checks and double checks, how could you shoot it down on finals, sir?
unidentified
Not only did they shoot, it was the Gettysburg, the cruiser Gettysburg that fired multiple missiles.
And the even more ridiculous thing is that they shot missiles again, having shot down the first F-18.
They were literally on final.
I saw the text messages of both the Dash 2 and Dash 1, the guys that got shot down.
They were also dumbfounded.
The guys in Dash 1 punched out just before they were hit by the missile.
The second guys went to burner, went down really on the deck, and managed to avoid...
But yes, it was really that bad.
The U.S. Navy has shot down its own aircraft while they were on final.
Steve, it's not like they were out 30, 50 miles from the carrier where they could have gotten mixed up with some incoming missile.
They were on final approach to the aircraft carrier, and our ship shot it down.
steve bannon
If you know the checks that you have to go through, I mean, this just shows you the seaworthiness and the...
The lack of just basic fundamental combat information, fire control, it's stunning.
I'd have to sit through the Board of Inquiry.
I'm still going to Hooties.
Hang on for a second.
We're going to go live to Mar-a-Lago, but before we start, Eric, I've got so much more to go through with you now that I've got you.
We'll finish with the music from The Right Stuff.
Eric Prince has got it.
It's that quality.
You just know, somebody's got it or not.
They've got the right stuff.
Stunning.
Absolutely stunning.
The Biden regime.
This is why Tom Fitton's right.
It's got to be a special counsel, special prosecutor.
It has to be.
You can't burden Pam Bondi and Kash Patel.
They will assist, but they can't be burdened with this.
It's so deep.
They released Yemenis back into that region where we got two carrier battle groups.
Of, I don't know, when you add them up, you've got two precarious battle groups, you've got, what, 20,000 sailors?
Marines?
Naval air personnel?
It's shocking.
Not even including the fast attack submarines and direct support.
Mind-boggling.
Mind-boggling.
If you don't call a congressional hearing on that immediately and try to stop it, whose side is this Biden regime playing for?
That's the question.
Short break.
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