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Dec. 11, 2024 - Bannon's War Room

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Episode 4117: What Needs To Happen Day One; The Hatred Against MAGA

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nicolle wallace ▲ ● ▼		Here, voting rights attorney and founder of the site Democracy Docket.
		Also joining us, MSNBC legal analyst and NYU law professor Melissa Murray.
		Mark, first, just take one step back and remind us what is in the purview of the head of the Civil Rights Division at the Department of Justice.
unidentified		Yeah, so it's a big job, and it covers, as you point out, the enforcement of the nation's civil rights laws involving discrimination, policing, lots and lots of things.
		But the thing that I am mostly focused on, or the thing that immediately jumped off the page for me, Is that voting rights falls within this purview.
		And that jumps off the page because Harmeet Dillon ran for chair of the RNC against Rodney McDaniel on a platform of voter suppression, what she calls election integrity, complaining that the Republican Party was not doing enough after 2020 to put partisan poll watchers complaining that the Republican Party was not doing enough after 2020 to put partisan poll watchers at the polls, was not doing enough to fight against vote by mail and other forms of voting, was not doing enough to fight against civil rights
		And the idea that she is now going to be put in charge of the Civil Rights Division and oversee the voting rights section at a time when you have the election denier in chief in the Oval Office, at a time when Project 2025 wants to dismantle voting rights around the country, at a time when, frankly, at a time when Project 2025 wants to dismantle voting rights around the country, at a time when, frankly, the courts and voting rights are one of the few places we have to fight is beyond absurd.
		It is something out of Kafka novel.
		My clients and my law firm and many, many other civil rights organizations in the position of now having to fight not just the state vote suppressors, not just the Republican Party and their allies who want to, who are, you know, election deniers, but now we are also fighting the tax-funded Department of Justice, who will be advancing positions, like I said, antithetical To their core mission, which is ensuring the right to vote.
		It is both a drain on resources.
		It is also going to cause a lot of confusion, I think, among judges, although hopefully they will see through it.
		You know, some of the judges may play confused about what the Department of Justice is doing.
nicolle wallace ▲ ● ▼		I mean, Melissa, it is a dramatic...
		A shift for the role of the person inside the government who is supposed to or has previously done one thing and would now do another as Kennedy at HHS or Tulsi Gabbard at D&I or Kashmir Patel at FBI. I mean, it is as dramatic a departure from a norm.
		Nothing illegal about it.
		Elections have consequences.
		This is one of them.
		But it is as dramatic a shift in a single post as anything we've reported on since November 5th.
unidentified		Obviously, when there's a change in administration, there's a change in administration priorities, and often civil rights is where that is most keenly felt.
		But just to add a little loss on what Mark has said, there's currently pending in the lower federal courts a challenge to whether private parties can bring suits under Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act.
		Section 2 is basically the last leg standing of the Voting Rights Act to challenge suppressive voter laws.
		And we've relied a lot on what's known as private attorneys generals, people like Mark, private groups to challenge suppressive voter laws when they come up.
		And that's especially important in circumstances where the administration may not necessarily be as aggressive in enforcing voting rights.
		And in a situation like this one where it seems clear that the Office of Civil Rights within the Department of Justice is not just abstaining but may actively be undermining voting rights, the fact of Section 2 is even more important.
		So we have this case that's currently percolating.
		It's likely to go to the Supreme Court.
		I think it's likely to find a very receptive home at the Supreme Court.
		And it may knock out Section 2 and the prospect of private party suing, which will leave everything to the Department of Justice.
		And that will be a really difficult road to hoe.
		If Harmeet Dillon is the head of the Civil Rights Division.
		That leaves nothing to say about the fact of just ordinary DEI efforts and police brutality consent decrees and the other things that the office does on a regular basis.
		The fact that she has been nominated to fill this post makes clear that this administration is going to really pursue its priorities in reorienting our understanding of civil rights such that we're no longer focused On those traditional minority groups that historically have been excluded, but now we're really focused on a new set of minorities,
		aggrieved outspoken conservatives, aggrieved Christian evangelicals, those who believe that the quote-unquote woke mob are imposing certain things on them, and they need government to step in and protect them, and this is the administration to do that.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified		Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I've got a free shot of all these networks lying about the people.
		The people have had a belly full of it.
		I know you don't like hearing that.
		I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
		It's going to happen.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified		MAGA Media.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified		Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified		War Room.
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It's Tuesday, 10 December, year of our Lord, 2024.
		We're going to get into everything today.
		Everything.
		Any and all.
		That was Professor Melissa Murray from NYU Law School and, of course, Mark Elias with Nicole Wallace, and they decided to open, I thought quite smartly, on Hermit Dillon, Another friend of the show, contributor, Harmeet, a great warrior named the head of the Civil Rights Division at Maine Justice.
		And that is one of the, not just most important positions in the entire Justice Department, but it is also where a lot of the nonsense goes about elections and election integrity.
		And of course, she's the election integrity lawyer for Carrie Lake, for the RNC, for so much, has fought so many battles on 2020. All of it.
		I think I could play, I want to thank the team here.
		I could play that clip all night.
		Elias lays it out.
		And Melissa Murray actually talks about the shift in focus.
		And she absolutely nails it.
		This is what I tell folks.
		If you want to understand what's going on in our movement, you've got to watch Fox.
		You've got to watch MSNBC because unlike Fox, they do a good job of breaking it down right there.
		She told you everything traditionally what the Justice Department does and why this is a tectonic plate shift.
		And they both said, hey, elections have consequences.
		This is a big consequence.
		And they're trying to convince their audience.
		This is why you've got to get off your duffs and resist Trump.
		Because Trump's coming, and he's coming hard.
		He's rolling hard.
		You can see that through these nominations.
		Now, I'm almost positive civil rights.
		I think civil rights has to be confirmed, so this could be another fight, but...
		These picks are pretty extraordinary for a shift of kind of attitude and what people's backgrounds have been.
		Hermit Dillon over at Maine Justice at the Civil Rights Division, to head the Civil Rights Division, which all the election integrity and voter, all the voting rights, everything falls under that, and this is going to be quite profound.
		As the smart guys over there, Professor Melissa Murray and Mark Elias, We're good to go.
		It has a story about how the war room posse with Charlie Kirk Show got into the fight last week about the Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth, right, the nominee or the nominated Secretary of Defense, and how turned things around from looks like they might cut him loose to now he looks, I don't know, would they say he's winning 80 percent?
		I think 90, I think 100. If everything keeps going, people keep grinding.
		Cash is up there.
		We'll get more to cash.
		Later.
		We've got some things happening big in North Carolina.
		This whole thing about shifting the elections under the state auditor.
		It's a big fight.
		We're going to give you some numbers.
		We're going to talk in detail about that momentarily.
		I want to get Roger Kimball, one of the top public intellectuals.
		In the MAGA movement, Roger, I understand you have an engagement you have to get to tonight, as you have about every night.
		But you wrote a piece for American Greatness, I think.
		It was very powerful, and you laid out, hey, here's what has to happen immediately.
		Your recommendations of President Trump, boom, do these things immediately.
		And some of them were so hardcore, and I loved them so much.
		I said, hey, Roger, can you narrow that down to a couple of three and come on the show?
		So thanks for carving time.
		If we can put the article for American Greatness.
		Your advice to President Trump Is what, Roger Kimball?
unidentified		Well, I think right off the bat, day one, he needs to fire or call for the resignation of all Biden's political appointees, all of them, no exceptions.
		He's got to get rid of all of them.
		He must also have a plan On day one to take over all the major agencies, even if some of his cabinet nominations have not yet been confirmed.
		There will be people underneath the cabinet secretaries who can help do that.
		He must right away freeze all government He must also,
		right away, cut some small My suggestions would be the National Endowments for the Humanities and the Arts, the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, Margaret Sanger's organization, Planned Parenthood.
		The National Endowment for Democracy, that alone gets $320 million a year, I believe.
		It's a private entity full of people who hate Donald Trump.
		They've called him a fascist, a neo-Nazi.
		This money just has to stop.
		Now people say, you'll remember, Steve, that people, for as long as we can remember, Republican administrations come into office and they say, we're going to get rid of the Department of Education, we're going to get rid of the National Endowments, and they have a list.
		And what have they actually managed to cut so far?
		Nothing.
		Nothing.
		That has to stop.
		And people will say, oh, well, these agencies are too small for you to attack.
		It won't make any difference.
		So you say, okay, well, maybe we should cut at some of the larger appropriations.
		They say, oh, no, you can't do that because there are too many people who will be hurt by that.
		So basically what they argue is you can't stop any government spending.
		Now, Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, I hope, are gonna come up with a list and a strategy to do this on day one or before day one.
		They will have it worked out, I hope.
		And I think you've stressed this on your show a few times.
		People are understandably in a sense of euphoria now.
		We won a great election and in fact we won it in an even bigger way than the electoral vote count demonstrates because Donald Trump moved the needle in virtually maybe in every single state.
		In California, in Virginia, in New Hampshire.
		New Hampshire is now, I'm just reading today, is a swing state.
		So everywhere, Donald Trump has made inroads.
		But Donald Trump's election is not the war.
		That is gathering the troops on the beaches of Britain in preparation for the Normandy landing.
		This is early June.
		This is before June 6, 1944. We haven't won.
		We have merely appointed a general, assembled troops.
		Now the hard part, the actual battles begin.
		And this small list of suggestions of things that Trump might want to do is part of that battle plan.
		It's the army rangers going in and scaling the cliffs and taking out the German pillboxes.
		We need to do that.
		And the people who commented on this list of things, one of the small things that people seem really to like Is to order the CIA to put up a plaque in a prominent place, Black Bordered, listing the 51 intelligence officers that betrayed their country by lying about Hunter Biden's laptop and attempting to interfere in the election.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Okay, hang on.
		I know you're going to be late for cocktails.
		You guys drink Pins, right?
unidentified		I got plenty of time.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		And then you're going to be late for cocktails over the Century Club or the Metropolitan Club.
		No, I'm not going there.
		I'm not going there.
		Hang on, hang on.
unidentified		I got dressed up for you.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		He's actually a populist.
		Hang on, Roger.
		I've got to hold you for a second because this is so dramatic, what you're saying.
		Fire all of them.
		It's an illegitimate machine.
		Fire every political appointee.
		Get your team, no matter where they stand, if they're not confirmed, fine, but get temporary people in immediately.
		Seize the control of the institutions.
		And then start to do smart cuts, right?
		Like some of the programs, PBS, whatever ones you can do without statutory change, start to do it.
		I think it's absolutely brilliant.
		I just want to drill down in a minute.
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		All next, in the war room.
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Van.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		They're about to pass the NDAA, which lays out all the requirements for the empire and puts a top-line number of, I think, $880 billion, just assume a trillion, but also lays out the predicate and approves it by law.
		That then Elon Musk and those guys, I don't care what people are saying, once that's passed, good luck.
		I'm going to drill down to that in a second.
		In addition, wait for it, $50 billion to Ukraine, a loan package they're working on right now.
		Including the way it looks, at least 20 billion of immediate cash from the United States.
		As Roger Kimball said during the break to me, how much going to North Carolina?
		So 50, this is the games they're playing.
		They've been voted out.
		This entire period is not for them to do things.
		This entire period is for them to have the watch relieved by President Trump's team.
		Roger Kimball, and this is what I love about Kimball's list.
		This is Smash Mouth.
		This is go in and seize the institution.
		It's number one, fire all of the Biden guys.
		If they're at the Naval Academy of the Board, West Point, the Smithsonian, the Battlefield Summit, wherever they are, there's tens of thousands of commissions, plus there's 3,000 of them got jobs, and I would take the other 1,000, Senate confirmed, 4,000, out, you're gone, high noon.
		U.S. attorneys, deputy U.S. attorneys, everybody, everybody that Biden put into position.
		If it's signed by Joe Biden, you're gone at one minute afternoon.
		Boom.
		I don't want to hear anything.
		Oh, we're going to miss some things.
		Hey, sorry.
		Not sorry.
		Then you force whatever team you can.
		Understand somebody's got to be sent to confirm, but you can have acting, interim, whatever you got to do.
		Force as many of your bodies in there as legally possible.
		And if it's not legal, go up to the line and put your toes on it.
		Push, push, push.
		Be aggressive.
		Number three, this is where Kimball's genius frees all the grants and the contracts.
		What do you mean by that?
		This is a ton of money and a ton of keeping their buddies on the payroll.
		Is it not, sir?
unidentified		Yes, a huge amount of money, and it's mostly going to left-wing causes, or at least it's a waste of money.
		I mean, this is something that Vivek and Elon Musk really ought to look into and give us some numbers.
		You mentioned thousands of people.
		There were three million people who worked for the federal government, three million.
		I've seen it estimated that 90% of them are still working at home three years after the pandemic.
		So that means they're mostly not working.
		Why should the taxpayers be footing this bill?
		As Barack Obama said, elections have consequences.
		And this moment is not going to last, by the way.
		This is an opportunity that we must seize right now at 12.01, noon on January 20th.
		Because if we don't, it will very soon pass.
		And believe me, the other side is – you had Mark Elias on earlier, or you played a clip of him talking.
		These guys are working right now to undermine this election and everything that's going on.
		I mean, the genius of Trump here is his cabinet nominees are brilliant.
		I mean, he seems to have a knack for finding the person that was most abused by a government agency and then put him in charge of that agency.
		So Jay Bhattacharya at NIH. Well, they tried to destroy that guy.
		Now he's Antony Fauci.
		Now Jay Bhattacharya has that position.
		Kash Patel.
		I mean, you know, he was public enemy.
		Well, I won't say number one because that was always Donald Trump.
		But, you know, the FBI hated him.
		Well, now he's going to be running the FBI. I agree with you.
		I was worried about Pete Hegseth a little bit a couple of weeks ago.
		I think he's going to prevail, too, how great it's going to be to have him instead of Lloyd Austin.
		And remember, Remember, people like Joni Ernst, she voted for Lloyd Austin.
		Their guys never vote for our guys, but we often vote for their guys.
		Why is that?
		Why that discrepancy?
		Where's the reciprocity?
		The Democrats seem to be much better at playing hardball than Republicans, who their dearest wish in life seems to lose gracefully.
		And losing gracefully now means, and I don't want to be melodramatic about it, but it basically means the eclipse of America as we have known it.
		So I think this is the moment.
		Right now, it's not going to last long and it will be unrepeatable.
		If we don't do it now, we don't seize this opportunity, we will rue the day that we neglected to do so.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Roger, right before I let you go to your event, just real quickly, give me the punch list of the five or six small agencies, small things that are quite big as far as where they are in the city, where they are in the mind of the people.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		These groups punch way above their weight as dollars go, but just give me that list again.
unidentified		Yeah, well, I mean, it's an elastic list.
		This is off the top of my head.
		I think I mentioned the two endowments for the arts and humanities, the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, Planned Parenthood.
		I mean, I'm not quite sure why we ever got involved in supporting that eugenicist entity.
		You know, the National Endowment for Democracy, this is an agency that perhaps It's not an agency, actually.
		It's a private organization funded by $320 million a year of taxpayer money.
		Perhaps your listeners don't know about this, but this is the sharp edge of the sword of the neocon weapon.
		This is Victoria Nuland.
		She's on the board.
		Applebaum, she's on the board.
		Robert Kagan, Victoria Nuland's husband, is involved.
		It's a rogues gallery, as it were.
		And not only that, but these people called Trump a fascist, a neo-Nazi.
		Why should Trump's government Perfect.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Roger Kimball, where can people get your writings?
		I want them to go to Encounter Books, your publishing operation, and the new criterion.
		Where do people go to get all your content?
unidentified		It's encounterbooks.com, thenewcriterion.com.
		I have a Twitter handle.
		It's just Roger Kimball, at Roger Kimball.
		And this is a great moment.
		And by the way, the war room is indispensable.
		You're doing great work.
		It's Heather MacDonald, Edward Bloom, and me.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, brother.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Appreciate you.
unidentified		Great.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, sir.
unidentified		Thanks.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Boy, Heather McDonald, man, that's a hammer.
		Whew!
		Kimball's a hammer.
		That's a plan right there.
		There's a couple coming together.
		Remember, they're going to do shock and awe on the border, right?
		They're going to do that.
		You've got other things happening.
		Right there is a good punch list.
		I'm really adamant about, I think Roger said, I'm really adamant about fire them all.
		They're illegitimate.
		They gotta go.
		Fire them.
		Gotta go.
		One minute after, when the hand comes off the King James Bible, somebody should hit send on the memo.
		And the memo should say, go full apprentice.
		You're fired.
		Right?
		No, we want you to resign.
		No, get rid of them.
		They're not worthy of keeping around.
		I still can't get a straight answer on this.
		The NDAA, the National Defense Authorization Act, it sets in with policy what the empire is.
		And so, by law, all of these agencies, everything's supposed to be reauthorized, right?
		Reauthorized.
		And if you look at the FBI and the EPA and the Justice Department, I'm just saying that I think it's five-year increments.
		They haven't been reauthorized in decades, if ever, from when they were first originally.
		That, I believe, has to be addressed.
		I think President Trump addressed that.
		It needs to be addressed.
		That's part of the legislative branch to reauthorize it.
		I think you can do a lot with the FBI and the reauthorization process of the FBI. But that's something that's not getting done.
		And, of course, the pearl clutches up here are always so persnickety about what MAGA's doing and MAGA's not doing.
		They don't do the big things.
		Why?
		Because it gives them more opportunities for money and for power.
		The one they never miss, though, the one must-pass bill on Capitol Hill.
		You hear this all the time.
		Must-pass bill.
		Is the Defense Authorization Act.
		And why?
		That sets the top line for defense.
		That's top line.
		And then it has all the major policy and what you're going to do in the American empire.
		The appropriations bill that comes later, remember the 12 separate appropriations bill, that appropriations bill basically takes the top line essentially and just deals it out to programmatically where it's going to be and even in the programs kind of where is it going to go in the congressional districts and it's highly negotiated.
		But Once you have the authorization in the NDA, it doesn't go away.
		It's the game they play.
		That top line is the number.
		That's why you negotiate it.
		You don't go back and undo it.
		Now, this whole concept gets your number two pencil out, impoundment, Mark Paoletta, Justice Thomas' top guy.
		He has not been laboring in the vineyard.
		You know, wasting his time.
		He's got this theory from the Constitution of impoundment saying, hey, the appropriations is the max.
		That's the ceiling.
		We can impound the executive branch, can impound some of the cash, and look, we're going to have that fight, and we may take some big chunks of money out of there.
		But you're not going to deconstruct the administrative state with impoundment.
		Impoundment's going to be tactical.
		It's very important.
		It's going to be tactical.
		So I ask just people, I've been banging on this drum that like, hey, we got Doge with these superstars and these great guys with big thoughts, which is important.
		And you got OMB that actually is legally the guys that manage the process from the executive.
		And oh, by the way, when I look at the contract, Doge happens to be a consultant advisor to OMB, so I kind of get it.
		The appropriations process, because all they're saying on MSNBC and CNN, only Congress can...
	Elon Musk got no power.
	Well, it's in the appropriations process it all comes together.
	Now, because the cartel doesn't want any change.
	In the discretionary side, it's a trillion and a half dollars.
	One trillion, that's the defense budget.
	If you don't start cutting the defense, you never get to the social programs.
unidentified		That's just the way the system rolls, folks.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We're passing, and I got a million excuses.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		People say, oh no, Steve, come back and change.
unidentified		No, no, no, no, no.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		That's just not true.
		They're going to pass, and we passed the rule today because not enough people are on the watchtower.
		The NDAA was going to lock in a trillion dollar defense bill.
		So tell me what...
nicolle wallace ▲ ● ▼		...inside the U.S. Capitol.
		But you put yourself on the line and told the country the truth about what happened that day.
		And gave the committee a mandate to not just find the hitman, but the person who hired the hitman.
		The Department of Justice would go on to criminally charge Donald Trump for his actions on and around January 6th.
		When you talk about wondering if it was worth it, I mean, half the country voted for Donald Trump again, half the country voted for Vice President Kamala Harris.
		When you look at the stakes, nothing less than whether democratic norms, like not prosecuting your enemies, not doing the things we're talking about, the things that made news on Sunday, because even for Trump they're so extraordinary, jailing your opponents.
		We don't even have that as an option.
		You can prosecute them, but not without facts, and you certainly can't jail them unless they're found guilty by jury of their peers.
		What do you, I mean, as someone who has talked us through all of these things, as another service to your country, what do you imagine your willingness or appetite to engage in the public arena over the next four years to be Harry?
unidentified		That's a great question.
		And man, you always get the good questions, the good questions.
		But that is definitely a good question.
		But I definitely think that it's really important that while you have a voice, while you have a platform, while you have the ability, the desire, the willpower to speak out, to speak out when you see something wrong.
		One of the things that John Lewis was so adamant about speaking up when you see something wrong.
		It's to do it.
		You know, we spoke out because we wanted accountability.
		I spoke out to give voices to other officers, even that I saw today.
		I was on Capitol Hill today walking around and even just seeing some of my co-workers that are unable to speak of and say the things that they want to say.
		Okay, keep going.
		Keep using your voice.
		So I feel like it's still kind of a responsibility.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		You finish, what, fifth in a primary in Maryland, okay?
		You had your shot, you ran in a primary and got smoked.
		Nobody wanted to hear your madness, even in Southern Maryland, which is all Democrats.
		Nicole Wallace, we're not talking about, oh, they persecuted the Trump people for years, debanked them, deplatformed them, drove them into bankruptcy, threw them out of jobs, sent people to jail, prosecuted.
		What are you talking about?
		What planet are you living on, lady?
		What planet are you living on?
		Let understand you guys can whine all you want.
		I love it.
		I feed off it now.
		I love the whining.
		McCabe, what country are you going to?
		I love you going on CNN and wetting yourself.
		Man up, dude.
		I love the fact you're on there.
		Oh, you know, we're having serious conversations with the family about leaving the country.
		Leave the freaking country.
		Go!
		You're gutless.
		Clooney, Sharon Stone, Alec Baldwin, all of you, go!
		You hate MAGA. You hate working people in this country.
		You hate them.
		That's fine.
unidentified		Leave.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Leave the country.
		Go to the Cotswolds.
		Infest England.
		Bring your cheer and joy over to Europe.
		Go.
		Take off.
		We didn't run.
		You had all state power.
		You had tech.
		You had Wall Street.
		We didn't run.
		We stood and fought.
		We got a rally point.
		That rally point was Donald J. Trump and Mar-a-Lago.
		We rallied around it.
		Pivoted and then returned fire and kept moving.
		Nicole Wallace, put this in your brain, please.
		The country rendered a verdict on your whinging for the last four years in your show and all your evidence and all your people and all of it.
		It rendered a verdict.
		Here was the verdict.
		You guys are out.
		We want Trump in.
		And Trump's going to come in.
		Trump's going to come in with force.
		And Trump's going to come in with power.
		And Trump's going to come in with intention and motive and muzzle velocity and all of it.
		To do what?
		To set things right.
		And part of it, and this is why you can tell they're nervous and they're wetting themselves, is a Steve Bannon reporting that they're out all night, up at night, up at night with doing the blanket pardons.
		The blanket preemptive pardons all night?
		No, that's what they're doing.
		They're leaking it to the press because they're nervous.
		Weissman's nervous.
		Brennan's nervous.
		Milley's nervous.
		Fauci's nervous.
		And they should be nervous.
		Because we got them now boxed in.
		They can take one of two choices.
		Pick them.
		You can either give the blanket preemptive pardons, which we dare you.
		Do it.
		We dare you.
		Do it.
		If you do that, the Democratic Party is shattered for a generation.
		One generation, maybe never to return.
		Klobuchar knows that.
		The moderate and the thinking Democrats up there understand.
		They're going, what in the hell are these guys doing?
		First question you should ask is, what did they do?
		Why are they nervous?
		You shouldn't have Kash Patel...
		Walking around.
		And Pete Hegseth walking around.
		Maybe you should call up Milley and have him come over and visit a couple offices.
		How about Fauci?
		Maybe bring all the Fauci books.
		King Fauci's this, Fauci's this.
		Remember that back in the day, greatest?
		We said right here.
		We used a metaphor.
		Put his head on a pike.
		They banned us from everything for that comment.
		Do you think we care to ever say, oh, this is so terrible, boo-hoo-hoo, call YouTube, call Google, please, please put us back on.
	Screw you!
	We don't need any of your platforms.
	We're bigger and more powerful than ever, and we never wanted anything.
	Twitter let us on a couple weeks ago after three years of banning and two years of Elon.
	You know what we said?
	Forget it.
	Not interested.
	Not interested.
	Not interested in Facebook.
	What I'm interested in is putting Zuckerberg in prison.
	That's what I'm interested in.
	For what he did to this country.
	And no, you can go to Mar-a-Lago all you want.
	You can have as many dinners as you want.
	You deserve to be in a mess hall of a prison.
	The rest of you people too.
	Also.
	Liz Cheney.
	Anthony Fauci.
	General Milley.
	And you are just representative of a group of That should be investigated.
	It has to be investigated in the full light of day.
	Here's the thing.
	More information helps us.
	This is why doing a major dump of classified information, it shows the American people what they've been holding back.
	Oh, we've got the information.
	We're the cool clids.
	We got it.
	We can make the decisions.
	What'd you say, Stork?
	I can smell the Walmart.
	Yo, bro.
	In a federal prison where you're going, brother, the smell of Walmart is gonna smell like Chanel No.
	5. Because prison smells a whole lot worse, dude, and you belong in prison.
	You're a criminal.
	Your mistress is a criminal.
	Comey is a criminal.
	McCabe is a criminal.
	Brennan is a criminal.
	Criminals.
	Not political prisoners.
	Criminals.
	This should be adjudicated.
	It should be adjudicated in the light of day.
	Transparency, sunshine helps us.
	The American people will be repulsed.
	We will get many heretofore liberals to our cause.
	You will get the Matt Taibis and the Glenn Greenwalds.
	Guys like that who don't agree with us on everything but agree with some big things.
	They'll come more to our side.
	You've seen the Tulsi Gabbards.
	You've seen the RFKs.
	People are coming to this movement.
	The more information's out there, the more it's transparent, the more they're going to come.
	And the American people are going to be repulsed.
	Do I have Julie Kelly?
	Do I have Julie Kelly?
	Thank you for showing up, man.
	I appreciate you.
	I think we got some good news reports.
	Did we not, Julie Kelly?
unidentified		Julie Kelly?
julie kelly ▲ ● ▼		Yes, we do have some good news after what appears to be our public pressure on Judge Royce Lamberth, who you and I have been talking about for weeks.
		Natalie and I talked about him yesterday.
		It appears that he showed a little bit of mercy in court today for Jay Sixer, who just a few weeks ago he was threatening to put in jail For months, and this is a J6 who had been convicted of that 1512 C2, that conviction, found unlawful by the Supreme Court, then vacated.
		But the DOJ still wants people to spend as much time in prison on misdemeanors as they had on that now unlawful felony.
		Anyway, Judge Lamberth sent out this big order a few weeks ago.
		It made it sound like he was going to throw the book at this defendant once again, but did not.
		He instead ordered him to time served.
		He had already been in prison for 11 months.
		And what I think is the first time what happened in court is Judge Lamberth ordered the government to reimburse this J6 defendant for fines and restitution he paid on that now unlawful 1512 C2. Now, we're not going to take all the credit because there are very good defense lawyers involved here.
		But We are shining a light on these judges, what they are doing in court that no one else is doing.
		We are talking about what they're doing to these J6ers, still throwing them behind bars, still putting them on trial, still charging new defendants.
		And we are, you and I and a few other outlets who cover my work, are the only ones who are calling them out.
		So I think today, a combination of good lawyering, very good lawyering, and public pressure on Judge Lamberth indicated a little change of heart today, Steve.
unidentified		Do we have a photo of Judge?
julie kelly ▲ ● ▼		You do.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We're going to make these people famous.
		They should be famous for what they did.
		Judges, you're going to be held accountable, let's say this, for what you did.
		You're not, what are you, some kind of god?
		You people are gods?
		I don't think so.
		You're going to be held accountable.
		We're going to lead an effort using facts and public pressure to have you impeached, to be impeached and go before the Senate, have a trial in the Senate, and be removed from your lifetime appointments because you're not worthy of those appointments.
		So Judge Royce Lambert, I'm glad you're getting old-time religion today.
		You know, I don't know.
		Maybe you get old-time religion on some...
		Maybe you go back and review some of the other stuff.
		Who knows?
		Like President Trump says, it's a process.
		Trust the process.
		But it's not going to go...
		I knew this was going to happen.
		You know why?
		Because they're gutless, and they sit up there all puffed up.
		They sit there all puffed up.
		And they have to be held accountable.
		You have to be held accountable, and you will be held accountable.
unidentified		Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be held accountable.
		The people, the worst.
		Which ones?
		Give me your punch.
		Who should be impeached?
		Some of these should be impeached, taken to trials before the United States Senate, removed from their permanent positions as judges.
		Who are the top two or three in your book, Julie Kelly?
julie kelly ▲ ● ▼		Well, Judge Lamberth, despite what he did today, should be towards the top.
		Chief Judge Beryl Howell, who we have talked about, and I'm working on a big piece specifically on her, She is the Obama appointee who oversaw the Robert Mueller investigation, then the DOJ's first two criminal investigations into President Trump, and then Jack Smith, the special counsel's investigation.
		Not only was she a rubber stamp, which all of these judges are, she was really in cahoots with the DOJ in all of this lawfare to bring about Outrageous orders, like piercing attorney-client privilege between Donald Trump and his lawyer, Evan Corcoran, in the classified documents case.
		She also, and it's important to underscore, in early 2021, Beryl Howell set out guidance that her underlings, her colleagues on the D.C. District Court, could use as tests to see what J6ers would be held under pretrial detention.
		That means denied release.
		She established what's known as, well, it was the defendant's factors, but it's basically called the Crestman factors.
		This was the defendant from which she took and laid out all this guidance.
		This has never been done before, Steve.
		A federal judge setting out parameters for a specific group of political protesters To determine whether they would be held behind bars for years awaiting trial or whether they would be set free like everyone else is.
		These are just a few of her egregious offenses.
		She makes very public statements.
		She gave a speech last year that I covered.
		A speech where she hints at Donald Trump being an authoritarian.
		So what she started in that courthouse related to J6 still to this day permeates and infects the process.
		I will call out a few others.
		Judge Tim Kelly, you're another one.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We'll be back.
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, birchgold.com.
		Talk to the folks at Birch Gold, because we're going to go through some turbulence.
		I know we're going to have turbulence.
		Birchgold.com slash Bannon, end of the dollar empire.
		But you can talk to Philip Patrick and the team.
		Or, if you've got your phone right now, just text Bannon at 989898. You get all the free information on 401ks, IRAs, all of it.
		And drill down on this.
		Make sure you understand it.
		Just don't buy gold to buy gold.
		Understand what you're doing, why it's a hedge against times of turbulence.
		The smarter you are, the better choices you make.
		Yep, axiomatic.
		I want to make sure this NDA, this is the con.
		You've heard it here first.
		Because we're serious about getting this done.
		Deconstruct the administrative state.
		Take down the deep state.
		It doesn't happen.
		You don't snap your finger and it happens.
		The world doesn't look like that.
		Particularly when they're entrenched here with all the money and power.
		Do you think they're impressed with the Trump victory with MAGA? Do you think they impressed them?
		It scares them.
		It scares them.
		But you've got to bring it.
		You've got to bring the heat every day.
		You've got to put the fear of God in them.
		Because they're not going to change.
		Look what Julie Kelly's doing.
		One woman...
		We start going to these courts, all the news organizations, and they wonder why MSNBC nobody watches, and CNN nobody cares, because they don't cover anything real.
		And when they cover it, they don't cover it in a meaningful manner.
		It's all superficial.
		It's all the stupid hour.
		When you watch those things, you think you're wasting your time.
		It's starting to burn you up.
		Am I wasting my time?
unidentified		This stuff is so stupid, the way they present it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		The NDAA, this is someone, I'm not going to use the name, But it's a very dialed-in, plugged-in person up there in Capitol Hill on the House side.
		And I said this, NDAA, no matter what the happy talk is, it takes defense off the table because you agree to a top-line number, and that top-line number never changes.
		And it agrees – it doesn't agree how the money gets allocated, although kind of.
		That's for the appropriations process, but generally.
		But it lays out all the requirements.
		It kind of lays out everything on a policy basis, what you're going to do and what you're going to accomplish.
		So the seeds of the American empire are there.
		Just now, how we take the cards in the deck and deal them.
		He said, once you sign off from the top line, you've cut the Doge guys out really from having a meaningful role in defense.
		There's a quote, that's what the defense guys want.
		They don't want any of the Doge cuts, and that's what's going to happen.
		So they are sealing up everything for this next year with this NDA. They take it off the table.
		Now we can go and have a fight, and everybody says, well, Steve, no, it's an appropriation, you don't always come back.
		Come on, man.
		It doesn't work like that.
		Once this thing's passed, that's the number.
		The town goes on to the next thing, which is to the appropriation defense, and cut the cards, and let's deal them out.
		If we're serious about this, and we damn well better start getting serious about it, and stop with the happy talk, and stop tapping people along.
		They're tired of being tapped along.
		There was just a vote to do something about it.
		And President Trump has gathered, I don't know, maybe the best team ever.
		If they're not the best team ever, then hey, they're close enough.
		They're directionally close enough to the best team.
		I think it's pretty, it's good.
		You got Vivek, you got Elon, and then you got a ton of people in back of them.
		Are those people perfect?
		No, they're not perfect.
		Some of them are hooked up with the defense industry.
		I got it.
		It's not a perfect world.
		But I'll fight with the army I got.
		And that I can fight with because they're going to go through and see not just efficiencies, it's effectiveness.
		And what the obligations are.
		Remember, you can't just take programs and people.
		It's billets and programs.
		Billets and programs.
		Or programs and billets.
		Programs and billets.
		Programmatically.
		We have to do less.
		Maybe we can do it smarter, that's true, but that's on the margin.
		Maybe we just do less.
		We don't do that.
		They tweeted out the other day, we have 113,000 troops in 140 countries.
		Now, when I relieved the watch back in 16 and 17, I think it was about 135,000 troops in about, I don't know, 145 countries.
		And I said, gosh...
		You know, and I was in the military on a vessel for four years, and I was four years back in the Pentagon, a three-handed Pentagon, as the Chief of Naval Operations, seeing it at that level.
		I said, gee willikers, golly, that's kind of a lot.
		Like, what in the hell are we doing?
		The American people really understand this?
		They're in 140 countries, and we got 113,000 troops overseas?
		It's not just costing you money, which is you're burning cash.
		I got that, and we can handle that, kind of, maybe.
		It's like the opportunity cost.
		What are we doing?
		Why is this happening?
		Who authorized this?
		Oh, well, the Defense Authorization Act, because it's authorized, because it's all in there.
		Oh, I got it.
		It's in there, and it never debated and just jammed up.
		You know what the debate is?
		I want to tell you how lack of seriousness it is up here.
		We've got the whole world, you've got the arc of instability over there, blowing up like August 1914. All the way from Russia, where we're shelling, American shells are going in there, down through the Ukraine, through the Bloodlands, through Romania, just canceled the election,
		down through the Balkans, the cockpit of the world, all the way down to Turkey, it's going to restart the Ottoman Empire, down through Syria, the ancient cradle of Christianity that's now racked asunder, through Iraq, Mesopotamia, Babylon, Tigris and Euphrates, down to the Persian Gulf, Persia, the North Arabian Sea, Red Sea, the whole bill, whole deal.
	On fire, Israel backed up to the sea, Judea, Samaria, they're fighting up there today.
	All of it.
	Getting Trump into the thing, locked in more and more and more.
	You know what the NDAA debate was about?
	You know what the debate, it did get slowed down, you know what the debate was about?
	Transgender, I don't know, bathrooms for the kids in school.
	I'm not kidding, it was held up.
	Couldn't get to that?
	Couldn't?
	That is the paramount thing that's important.
	This bill's racked with pork.
	It's racked with too many commitments.
	You have to rethink the whole thing.
	You gotta act just...
	This positive question I keep saying.
	Is the CCP or the American Republic gonna win in the 21st century geopolitically?
	That would be what's before...
	The committee today.
	That's what we're putting before the House, as they say in England.
	Before the House of Commons.
	We're going to debate that.
	Does this fall into any of that?
	Is any of this meaningful with that?
	Is the 140 countries some encirclement or some containment?
	Are we kenning?
	Are we doing something?
	Are we doing anything except spending money and sending troops and sticking our nose in everybody's business?
	And making the war profiteers cash money?
	Will somebody please ask it?
	No, no, no.
	We're gonna debate the transgender bathrooms for three days.
	You're not serious people.
	And unfortunately, we're in serious times.
	The folks up there are not serious people.
	And we are in serious times.
	The question This is St. John the Evangelist in the Book of Revelations.
	Is it the end times?
	Ask yourself.

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