Dec. 11, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is what you're fighting for. | ||
| I mean, every day you're out there. | ||
| What they're doing is blowing people off. | ||
| If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians get total control and total power. | ||
| Because this is just like in Arizona. | ||
| This is just like in Georgia. | ||
| It's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations. | ||
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This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged. | |
| We've told you, this is the fight. | ||
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All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth. | |
| War Room. | ||
| Battleground. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, welcome, staying for the second hour of the late afternoon, early evening show, Tuesday, 10 December, year of early 2024. I want to wrap with Julie Kelly. | ||
| I want to thank the team, the RAF team in Denver, for putting up Judge Royce Lamberth's photo. | ||
| Let's make these folks famous. | ||
| Julie, tell me, you've got a big report you're working on tonight that'll be out tomorrow. | ||
| Where do people get it? | ||
| We'll have you back on. | ||
| Folks, it's all about accountability. | ||
| There are no more free shots on goal. | ||
| And that's the problem we've had with these wimpy Republicans for years and years and years and years and years. | ||
| They talk about it. | ||
| They talk about limited government. | ||
| They talk about limited government. | ||
| They talk about limited government nonstop. | ||
| And what do we got? | ||
| We got an NDAA. We got an NDAA here that's got almost a trillion dollars in it. | ||
| And here's the scam. | ||
| Once they lock that in, they've essentially blocked Elon and Vivek and Doge from doing anything significant in cuts. | ||
| Because you've taken the defense off the table. | ||
| And I don't want to hear anything, oh, Steve, you can re-author. | ||
| No, you can't. | ||
| It's never been done. | ||
| And it's not going to be done now. | ||
| If anything they can do is on the margins, then they're going to have to pull like a tractor pull for that. | ||
| It's just not acceptable. | ||
| This is called playing games. | ||
| And the house up there, gotta ask Mike Johnson, what are you doing, dude? | ||
| Especially with the program. | ||
| He is no more with the program. | ||
| He's Polly Pockets. | ||
| He's no more with the program than anybody. | ||
| It's redonkulous. | ||
| Julie Kelly, what do you got for us, girl? | ||
| So I have a big piece up. | ||
| Actually, it's up now at Real Clear Investigations. | ||
| And this details what all of these judges are saying and doing in court to advance J6 cases, defying President Trump's promise to pardon J6 defendants and shut down this entire Capitol siege investigation. | ||
| They are defying those promises and, quite frankly, Steve, the will of the people. | ||
| Who partially rebuked this lawfare by overwhelmingly electing Donald Trump in November. | ||
| So this piece is up at Real Clear Investigations. | ||
| It talks about Royce Lamberth. | ||
| It talks about Judge Howell. | ||
| It talks about Chief Judge, now James Bosberg, and their orders denying motions to postpone going to jail, to postpone jury trials, and postpone numerous court proceedings. | ||
| They're going to drag this out into the last minute, January 20th of 2025, and that's why we have to keep the public pressure up on these judges and, of course, DOJ, who doesn't care, but especially these judges who feel that they are rogue, they're independent and unaccountable. | ||
| Yes, they're going to care. | ||
| They care right now because they're overburning the Midnight Hall of the White House on blanket preemptive pardons. | ||
| Blanket preemptive pardons. | ||
| They care. | ||
| They're worried plenty. | ||
| And hey, Judge Beryl Howell, Judge Royce Lamberth, and the rest of your crew, and the prosecutors, Lisa Monaco, Merrick Garland, high noon on the 20th of January in the year of our Lord 2025, it's called Accountability Day. | ||
| New sheriff in town. | ||
| Things are going to be quite different, Matthew Graves. | ||
| Quite different. | ||
| Quite different. | ||
| What you've done to people to break them, what you've done to people to put them in that hell hole in Washington, D.C. Very cute going down there, oh yeah, okay. | ||
| We're going to see how long you can take it down there, Merrick Garland and Matthew Graves. | ||
| You know, federal prison is not a good place to be if you're a former federal official. | ||
| Just saying. | ||
| Just an observation I make from my convict times. | ||
| Just an observation. | ||
| Accountability is coming. | ||
| Full on. | ||
| Julie Kelly, where did people go to get your information? | ||
| Real clear investigations. | ||
| Also, my substack declassified with Julie Kelly. | ||
| And of course, I post all this breaking news and court motions, etc. | ||
| on Julie underscore Kelly 2. We have the Twitter spaces starting tonight with the wife of the J6 defendant who's been in jail since early 2021, sends to 10 years in prison for a physical altercation with a cop on January 6th. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| What time's the Twitter space? | ||
| And if Grace and Mo could put that up, it'd be great. | ||
| What time's the Twitter space? | ||
| Well, I don't want to interfere with your show, but we're starting in 15 minutes, but it'll be an hour and a half. | ||
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No, it's fine. | |
| I will post the recording, and I'll post the recording also, and people can hear it at their leisure later tonight or tomorrow. | ||
| People can multiple process. | ||
| Listen to you. | ||
| As long as they're watching me, that's what matters, right? | ||
| Just mute War Room. | ||
| As long as you watch me, mute War Room and listen to Julie Kelly on the Twitter space. | ||
| Thank you, Julie. | ||
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
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Love you, girl. | |
| She's the best. | ||
| What a hammer. | ||
| I'm bringing out the heavy guns now. | ||
| One of the smartest men I know in all of national security, particularly the intelligence side, really all of it, Ezra Cohen, was acting under Secretary of Defense for intelligence in President Trump's first term and is also with us over in the White House in the early years, really in charge on the National Security Council with everything relating to intelligence and intelligence policy. | ||
| And Ezra is an expert of the games they play in Washington, D.C. So, Ezra, first thing I want to ask you is about the NDAA. This got me all worked up because you've got Elon, you got Vivek, you got all these dozens and dozens of people in back of them, and plus over at OMB, that are trying to do serious work and trying to help the country and take it for, you know, deconstruct the administrative state because they're doing too many things, get back to limited government, and something we can afford. | ||
| And then you have this NDAA that becomes the number one obsession here in Washington. | ||
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It's got to be passed, got to be passed. | |
| Correct me if I'm wrong, because I'm not an expert on this stuff, but if this NDA passes, it sets the top line number plus the policies, right? | ||
| Isn't that, at least for this coming year, essentially block the Doge guys from getting anything done serious about the defense budget, sir? | ||
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Well, absolutely, Steve, and it's great to be with you, first of all. | |
| We had so many good battles in the White House together. | ||
| Look, There are several ways that the deep state is going to try to burrow in. | ||
| And one of them is by This is really, when you're looking at how do you drive change at the Department of Defense, you've got budget, you've got personnel, and you've got policy. | ||
| So we're literally taking out one of the legs of the three-legged stool there. | ||
| Meanwhile, we also have an attack on another leg of the stool, which is this administration is forcing through huge bulk promotions for many, many general officers. | ||
| Just flowing through the Senate without any objection. | ||
| And that's again taking away more of President Trump's decision space to make the changes that I know he wants to make. | ||
| Well, on the personnel, so you got the NDA, which kind of gives the top line of the budget. | ||
| I also think Italian signs off on policy. | ||
| But on the personnel side, this is where we had the big fight when Elizabeth Warren Focahontas wanted to do the judges. | ||
| And we were able to stop some of those, not as many as I wanted, but some of them particularly at the appellate level. | ||
| I thought Senator Tommy Tuberville... | ||
| had put a hold, understanding that was about social policy and particularly about, I think, abortions. | ||
| But has that totally been pulled off? | ||
| Are they in the Senate right now basically approving flag officers that are, I don't know, woke or come with the stink of the Biden regime and the Obama administration? | ||
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The Senate is approving hundreds of military promotions that are being put forward by the Biden White House. | |
| And, you know, I think just to be clear, it doesn't mean that every one of those promotions is suspect. | ||
| There are a lot of good officers on there who are extremely competent people. | ||
| There are some good flag officers on there, too. | ||
| The problem is we have had a system that has gone away from merit, especially under Mark Milley over the past eight years. | ||
| And so, President Trump needs to get in there, be able to do a merit-based review of these people, and then move them forward for promotion. | ||
| He is going to be the commander-in-chief on January 20th, and he deserves to have the military leadership, you know, that he's entitled to as commander-in-chief. | ||
| So this just kind of rush to get people through the system is really undermining his ability to push through the reforms he wants. | ||
| On the budget thing, I just want to, you know, go back and hit that. | ||
| Yes, there is policy in the NDAA, especially to the extent that they say you fund certain things and you don't fund other things, right? | ||
| So that's how Congress controls the policy at the department. | ||
| But if you're looking at things like, how do we build more nuclear submarines, which is what we need in the Pacific? | ||
| How do we build more autonomous vehicles? | ||
| How do we revamp the declassification and classification system so we can increase government transparency? | ||
| If those things aren't funded and prioritized in this NDAA, you've just taken off the table for probably a year or more the ability to get those reforms in place. | ||
| Let me go to, because one of the things you were an advocate very early on and kind of got it, the difference between a strong, forward-leaning defense policy and having that incorporate America first versus being a neocon or a supporter of this empire that wants us to be everywhere. | ||
| And Mo brings up a very good point. | ||
| What I talked about, the 113,000 troops in 140 countries, that was merely the second. | ||
| I knew that number looked a little low. | ||
| That was the Secretary of the Army. | ||
| That did not include the Air Force, the Marines, and the Navy. | ||
| I thought the number I saw when we changed the watch back in 1670 was about 145,000 to 150,000 in somewhere around 150 countries when you added the Navy, the Air Force, whatever. | ||
| Ezra. | ||
| Walk people through exactly what... | ||
| Happen in Syria, because here's the thing. | ||
| We're lectured all the time by our betters, like Brennan and all these guys, that we're troglodytes, Tulsi Gabbard and the people we put forward, the Ezra Grons, your tools of Russia, we're anti-American, all of it. | ||
| Yet, we've got to trust the intelligence process, we've got to trust the CIA. In just the last seven or eight days, What happened in Russia with the long-range missiles, what's happened in Ukraine with the battlefield casualties, the Romanian election, another surprise, Turkey reinstalling the Ottoman Empire, driving into Syria, the collapse of Syria, and South Korea, the implosion of South Korea. | ||
| Five or six, seven massive events, huge events. | ||
| And it seems like every day we're caught by surprise. | ||
| Walk us through. | ||
| How can our intelligence apparatus, which Tulsi has 18 different units of departments reporting to her, I think we spend, I don't know, a trillion dollars when we add it all up everywhere on intelligence or north of $750 billion. | ||
| How do we continue to keep getting caught on our back heels, sir? | ||
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Well, look, there's a lot there, Stephen. | |
| I'm going to try to respond to all of it. | ||
| First of all, you know, on the troops that are overseas, the thing we need to keep in mind is when troops are deployed, even if it's for short periods of time, that is reducing readiness. | ||
| And so the key thing is we need to understand the downside of having these troops overseas is being prepared for the fight that might be coming. | ||
| Lower levels of readiness invite conflict from the enemy. | ||
| So you get into this very, very bad cycle of actually inviting what you're trying to avoid. | ||
| The key thing is, and I think what President Trump understands is, we need to be in the business of war avoidance. | ||
| That is, we affect our enemy's psychology such that they never want to go to war with us, and that's how we get peace and prosperity in the United States. | ||
| On to the issue of intelligence and the track record. | ||
| Look, the intelligence community's track record over the past four years has been abysmal. | ||
| They have missed incident after incident. | ||
| So when I see what's happening in Syria now, the first thing I go to is, we actually don't know what's going on. | ||
| It's very, very hard to make good decisions when you don't know what's going on. | ||
| And I think what I saw in President Trump's first term was, he had the courage not to act. | ||
| And if you don't have good information, if you don't have faith in the systems below you, You need to have the courage not to act, because that's how you make a mistake. | ||
| And that's what we've seen over the last four years, just falling over themselves over and over and over again, because they have absolutely no idea what's going on overseas. | ||
| The intelligence community is more distracted than ever. | ||
| If you walk into CIA headquarters and go to the elevator bank, you've got 15 flyers for every single affinity group under the sun. | ||
| There should be one affinity group in the intelligence community at the Department of Defense, and that's for America and the Constitution. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| All these people that say they trust the bureaucracy, trust this, trust that, when you have Vindman saying, how dare the president violate the bureaucracy, that hints at a super constitutional system. | ||
| The reality is, what I see in people like Kash Patel and other nominees is, they're going to choose the constitution over the bureaucracy, and that's very good for America. | ||
| Can you give us, just to explain to people, because it's happened so suddenly in Syria with the Turkish involvement, what is the grand strategy you think of the Turks? | ||
| I mean, how's this Syrian thing playing out in your eyes? | ||
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Yeah, I mean, on Syria, you know, I see a lot of these people out there that are saying, this group's good, this group's bad. | |
| We've got to get out of the habit of doing that. | ||
| That actually is the neocon way of things, right? | ||
| This kind of black and white world you live in. | ||
| The truth of the matter is, there's a lot of bad out there. | ||
| Outside of the United States, there's a lot of bad. | ||
| And I think we need to look at Syria, kind of take a step back and say it is what it is. | ||
| There's going to be a lot of headwinds and challenges for the United States there. | ||
| The biggest one is the Biden administration has put Iran into a corner Such that they could be incentivized to race to a nuclear weapon here before January 20th. | ||
| And that is absolutely a threat to US interests and the economy. | ||
| The Turks are really just taking advantage of a weak Biden administration, an Iran that is significantly weakened under relentless Israeli attacks. | ||
| I mean, if you look at it, Israel has taken off all of the space and distance That Iran had created to keep Israel away from its borders, right? | ||
| Hamas is gone. | ||
| Hezbollah is gone. | ||
| Assad is gone. | ||
| All of these things were means to keep their main adversary off balance so that they couldn't focus on the threat in Tehran. | ||
| And Turkey's just taking advantage of that, and Erdogan, frankly, is running the tables on us. | ||
| I can hear heads blown up right now. | ||
| I want to go back to something you said a second ago. | ||
| I thought, and correct me if I'm wrong, that the Obama-John Kerry architecture carried on by Blinken and Biden was to make sure that the Iranians, the Persians, use nuclear energy or nuclear power in a positive way. | ||
| What do you mean that knowing that they're collapsing, Hezbollah's collapsing, their proxy armies are collapsing, In surrounding Israel, that they may race to create a nuclear weapon before January 20th. | ||
| January 20th, brother, is, I don't know, less than 60 days away. | ||
| Is that even possible? | ||
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Well, if you read the intelligence assessments that this administration has been putting out publicly, you know that Iran is extremely close to getting a nuclear weapon. | |
| And it doesn't mean that it's a weaponized weapon. | ||
| That means it's not something they can put on a missile and launch into Europe or even launch into the United States or one of our aircraft carriers. | ||
| It just means that they will be able to conduct a successful nuclear test. | ||
| And that right there Is a—will be a very, very big deterrent. | ||
| And so what we'll see—but I think that that could be happening because what options does Iran have left? | ||
| Really, at this point, because of the collapse of Assad and the destruction of all of the Syrian anti-aircraft capabilities, the only thing that's in between Israel and Iran right now is Iraq, and they don't have A credible air defense system. | ||
| So the Iranians feel very, very encircled now. | ||
| And I think that this is the real danger in Biden signaling that he's going to get more involved in Syria right now, is that this could be misread by the Iranians, that we are further encircling them. | ||
| And so it's an extremely delicate situation. | ||
| I think that this is probably why, just as recently as last week, the Biden administration, after pursuing a somewhat Different strategy versus Saad tried to change course to see if they could prop him up at the last minute. | ||
| But really, again, Steve, what this all points at is they have a very bad insight into what's going on in the region because the intelligence community is so distracted with things that aren't about doing their core mission. | ||
| And so you have a lack of insight combined with horrible decision making. | ||
| And that's why we're seeing this mess. | ||
| Make our audience smart here for a second. | ||
| What are the tells that you're looking for to know? | ||
| I think one of the fears people have is that in this interregnum that Biden does a commitment or makes a commitment to President Trump, it narrows President Trump's range of alternatives and ability to become a peacemaker and somehow, not that we want involvement, but that would force his hand into something. | ||
| What actions concern you the most Well, I think there's two things. | ||
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The first thing is, as you know, President Trump, when he comes in on January 20th at 1201, the contingency plans that the military has on the table are going to be pretty baked. | |
| And I'd be very concerned that the Biden administration is tinkering with those plans to try to force a certain outcome. | ||
| Now, this is why it's so critical to immediately get a competent team into the Pentagon, because all of those contingency plans need to be reviewed immediately. | ||
| Again, some of them, the president may not have much time to make a decision, so the plans have got to be locked solid in line with his policies. | ||
| The other thing that I would be very, very concerned about as a sign of lock-in is, again, just to go back to the decisions that they're making on personnel. | ||
| Especially military commanders. | ||
| You and I both know that the military commanders control the information that goes to and from the president of the United States. | ||
| And absent strong civilian control on day one, the weight of those commanders' decision is increased by multiples. | ||
| What would be your guidance for the new team with President Trump coming in all the way in that arc of instability from Russia to Ukraine, the Balkans, Turkey, Syria, Iraq to Persia and the the Balkans, Turkey, Syria, Iraq to Persia and the Persian Gulf? | ||
| What would be your one or two things you would tell people, hey, this is what I think you guys will be thinking about? | ||
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The number one thing is We have to focus on increasing, from my perspective, again, I'm an intelligence guy, so look, this is coming from a certain angle. | |
| But the most important thing is we have to increase our insights into these conflicts and these problem areas. | ||
| Because right now, we are flying blind, which is why you see so many misses in the intelligence community over the past four years. | ||
| The second thing we need to do is we must establish civilian control. | ||
| We cannot have people freelancing, unelected bureaucrats freelancing, pushing the president into decisions that he does not want to make. | ||
| I will never forget, Steve, you know, the meeting that we had, and I'm not going to go into too much detail, but when the president wanted a certain outcome versus ISIS so that he could bring peace to the region, and Jim Mattis sat there and told him, sir, it's not going to be your decision. | ||
| You're going to be a wartime president and it's not your decision. | ||
| And to me, that just kind of should be a wake-up call to everybody. | ||
| If we do not have strong civilian control, we are dead in the water. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| Ezra, you've got a pretty lively Twitter account and I recommend everybody sign up and follow you. | ||
| Where do they go to get your writings? | ||
| Where do they go to get you on social media? | ||
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Ezra A. Cohen. | |
| That's it. | ||
| That's my only account. | ||
| Many impersonators, but that's the genuine one, Steve. | ||
| Only one real McCoy. | ||
| Sir, Ezra, great to have you on. | ||
| Look forward to having you on in the days and weeks ahead about this evolving situation in the arc of instability. | ||
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Thank you, Steve. | |
| Wow. | ||
| I think I'll do Birch Gold in a second. | ||
| I want to bring in Jack Montgomery from National Pulse. | ||
| Jack, tell me about the story you've got to follow on Ezra about this personality that's now come to the forefront. | ||
| He's not quite exactly how the media is. | ||
| The media is presenting these guys as Jeffersonian Democrats. | ||
| Me thinks that might be oversell, and your article is fantastic because I think one of these brothers wants to march on Jerusalem, I don't know, burn it to the ground, take it apart stone by stone. | ||
| Talk to us about who the individual is in your article. | ||
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Well, this is Al Jilani, Abu Muhammad Al Jilani, and he is the new de facto leader of Syria. | |
| He's the leader of HTS, And HTS is a rebrand of the Al-Nusra Front. | ||
| And the Al-Nusra Front is Al-Qaeda. | ||
| Al-Qaeda, he was freed from prison in Iraq at the start of the Syrian Civil War. | ||
| He went into Syria. | ||
| He made an alliance with Baghdadi, the leader of the Islamic State. | ||
| They were, for a time, an alliance. | ||
| He set up Nusra as a franchise of Al-Qaeda. | ||
| People will tell you now that he left Al-Qaeda, they parted ways. | ||
| But this was not him for swearing Al-Qaeda. | ||
| He didn't decide it wasn't for him. | ||
| Zawahiri, the now deceased leader, essentially gave him his blessing to break allegiance and integrate into the wider Syrian opposition. | ||
| And essentially supplant it. | ||
| And so these articles that you see now, the BBC, for example, back in my home country, saying that he's gone from Syrian jihadist to rebel statesman, really is laundering propaganda for this organisation. | ||
| Up until a few weeks ago, there was a page on Rewards for Justice, the US government's website, For wanted individuals offering up to 10 million dollars for the capture of this man. | ||
| It was a lovely picture of him in black and white with big red bold letters and blazoned across it. | ||
| Stop this terrorist! | ||
| And it was stating in no uncertain terms, HTS is part of the Al-Qaeda network still. | ||
| This is a man who kidnapped hundreds of civilian Kurds, a man who butchered dozens of Druze villagers down in the south, one of Syria's religious minorities. | ||
| And things haven't changed since a couple of weeks ago. | ||
| You know, I mean, officially, HDS is still a prescribed terrorist organization. | ||
| It's banned. | ||
| It's a designated foreign terrorist organization on the U.S. Embassy in Syria. | ||
| And now we're finding all that might be changed. | ||
| And he said in 2018... | ||
| Jack, hang on for one second. | ||
| Just hang on. | ||
| I'm going to hold you through break. | ||
| This is beautiful. | ||
| Now these guys are being presented. | ||
| You see it on CNN nonstop. | ||
| It's like the Arab Spring. | ||
| This guy's like a Jeffersonian Democrat. | ||
| He's a statesman now. | ||
| Posobiec, I think, was the guy who called him Al-Qaeda and ISIS in suits. | ||
| He's now a great peacemaker. | ||
| As Jack Montgomery says, hey, they're just laundering propaganda. | ||
| This is not going to end well. | ||
| This is why you see these people, oh, we ought to be supporting this, we ought to be doing this. | ||
| It's time just to step back. | ||
| President Trump says, what is it, sand and death? | ||
| Just step back, let it evolve. | ||
| No need to be jumping in here. | ||
| We just bombed. | ||
| I think we did 75 bombing runs, bombing targets the other day. | ||
| On ISIS? Guys that might have been on our payroll a couple years ago? | ||
| Just saying. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Who'd have thought that? | ||
| We're going to take a short break. | ||
| Got Jack Montgomery from the National Pulse joins us. | ||
| We're going to drill down on this. | ||
| The Third World War. | ||
| The kinetic part. | ||
| They're trying to suck President Trump in. | ||
| Cut off his options before he's even back in office. | ||
| Short break. | ||
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All right, back in the warm in a moment. - All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth. | |
| War Room Battleground with Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, let me know when I get that Buddha from Brett Baer. | ||
| Brett Baer's talking about it. | ||
| I think NDAA or DOGE or... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's Brett Baer and... | ||
| The speaker, we'll break it all down for you. | ||
| How's it sound? | ||
| Kimberly Guilfoyle, KG, the one and only KG, just named the ambassador to Greece, KG, a friend of the show. | ||
| As importantly, Greece is huge. | ||
| I think you're going to have another heavy in Turkey, because you're going to need Greece and Turkey to be ambassadors, they really know. | ||
| Ed Martin, from Phyllis Schlafly's group, Ed Martin, a real fighter, and particularly a fighter for the J6 folks. | ||
| Ed Martin, named Chief of Staff for the Office of Management and Budget. | ||
| That is a monster position. | ||
| So our own Ed Martin... | ||
| One of the best guys out there, Phyllis Schlafly over there at the Eagles Foundation, the Eagle Group, named Chief of Staff of OMB to help Russ vote and all that. | ||
| Let me play this. | ||
| I'm going to come back. | ||
| So appointments are coming in fast and furious. | ||
| There's going to be a bunch more named this week. | ||
| People behind the scenes are working on transition. | ||
| Tons of folks that you know from the show and the conservative movement may name Ed Martin a monster position over at... | ||
| In fact, Ed is just right around the corner here from the Breitbart Embassy, the home of the War Room, with his group and a stone's throw. | ||
| And just named Chief of Staff of OMB monster position. | ||
| I think you're going to see a lot of very interesting people Like Ed and others who are master communicators over at OMB because there's going to be this connective tissue between them and Doge that is going to be set to deconstruct the administrative state. | ||
| Let's go ahead and play the Speaker of the House. | ||
| It's no surprise that border is the top of everyone's priority list because it's the top of the list for the American people. | ||
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We do that. | |
| We do energy policy. | ||
| We ensure that we don't have the largest tax increase in U.S. history, which is what would happen at the end of next year if we don't extend those tax cuts, and a lot of other things that we want to do. | ||
| In the meantime, we'll be dismantling the deep state, and that's what the DOGE effort is all about. | ||
| I want to talk about Doge for a second. | ||
| You just had this meeting with Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy up here on the Hill. | ||
| There's a lot of mystery about how that's going to work and how that outside group is going to interact with you all in Congress. | ||
| What's your assessment of it after that meeting? | ||
| I think it's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to do really big transformational things. | ||
| Really big transformational things. | ||
| Thank you, Mr. Speaker. | ||
| So the appropriations process is actually how things roll. | ||
| Because remember, the framers gave the House, because it was predicated or built or a replica somewhat of the House of Commons, only they can raise revenue and do taxes. | ||
| Also, they're the ones that allocate where the money goes. | ||
| All money raised and all money spent Has to initiate in the House and has to be part of the House. | ||
| The Senate clearly does their own signs off and they have a conference and they agree to it and then they send it to the President and it's happily ever after or he vetoes it. | ||
| That's kind of the process. | ||
| How a bill becomes a law. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Civics kind of one-on-one. | ||
| Here's the problem. | ||
| The problem is you've got this NDAA, which is, and remember, this is the must-pass bill, must-pass, must-pass this bill. | ||
| That essentially sets the framework in for the Pentagon and the national security apparatus. | ||
| It is, folks, close to $900 billion. | ||
| In the reality, it's over a trillion, but through some accounting tricks, they can spread some money into other departments and not have to shock you with the number. | ||
| So it's a trillion dollars. | ||
| And it's got all these policy things. | ||
| The only fight they had, the fight they had, It was over transgender, I don't know, education in the schools run by the military in the bases or transgender bathroom, something transgender, which is important, but maybe doesn't cut to the heart of exactly what in the hell we're doing. | ||
| And Johnson, you know this. | ||
| Once this is passed, I want the speaker to tell me what are the opportunities. | ||
| Since you have an appropriations process, and this is where Doge, to me, has to get to work. | ||
| You can't pass another budget bill, appropriations bill, of six or six and a half trillion. | ||
| When Doge is sitting there telling you we can cut two trillion out or there's a trillion of waste, I don't know what the number is. | ||
| I'm not sure they know totally what the number is, but directionally they know something's wrong. | ||
| Why go through this whole process and pass this and the Doge are going to come in afterwards and tell us it's all screwed up and you pass and overspent? | ||
| You don't want to do that. | ||
| Are you idiots? | ||
| That's not a process that works. | ||
| You've got to get them with OMB into the process of appropriation. | ||
| So we've signed off on that. | ||
| But now, now, you're passing the NDAA and that sets it. | ||
| And they say, oh no, Steve, you're going to be changing. | ||
| That's all BS. Ezra Cohen just told you, and everybody I talked to is on the inside. | ||
| He said, no, once it's locked, that's what they're running around right now. | ||
| What are they doing? | ||
| What are they spending all their time on? | ||
| Besides blanket preemptive pardons, they're spending on this. | ||
| This is the payday for the lobbyist. | ||
| And no, it's not specifically allocated. | ||
| That comes next. | ||
| It's set in stone. | ||
| Can that $880 billion or $900 billion be changed? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Can it be changed a lot? | ||
| No. | ||
| Can it be changed in the margins? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Is Doge set up to do things in the margin? | ||
| No. | ||
| Is it set up to do big things? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Did Speaker Johnson just tell Bret Baier? | ||
| Bret Baier's looking serious. | ||
| He's got the serious face on. | ||
| He's asking a serious question of a serious man. | ||
| That would be Johnson. | ||
| And he gives a serious answer. | ||
| Yes, Bret. | ||
| Well, you know it's transformational. | ||
| What do they think? | ||
| Do you think the audience think these people are kids? | ||
| Do you think they're children? | ||
| Are you going to talk to them like they're children? | ||
| It's transformational. | ||
| It's transformational. | ||
| Where's the transformation? | ||
| You said at the beginning this is how you're going to get the deep state. | ||
| Tell me how you're going to do that. | ||
| Just give me two or three bullet points. | ||
| How are you going to do that? | ||
| Isn't how you're going to do it is get into the programatically. | ||
| It's programs and billets. | ||
| Programs and billets. | ||
| Don't tell me about people. | ||
| And I don't see any more memes that run around like The Apprentice, you're fired, these funny memes. | ||
| This is not funny. | ||
| First off, as much as I want to take down the administrative state, these are people, you're going to put them in the unemployment, but you've got to get them jobs. | ||
| People have got to be employed. | ||
| I don't want to be employed by the government. | ||
| I don't want to be employed on taxpayers. | ||
| I don't take any pleasure. | ||
| Of putting out to pasture. | ||
| Some person has been there 12 years and got a family. | ||
| That's anxiety. | ||
| It's tension. | ||
| It's angst. | ||
| He's an American citizen. | ||
| He's going to have to go out in the cold world and find a job. | ||
| There should be no pleasure in this. | ||
| We're not taking pleasure in this. | ||
| We'd rather not do it. | ||
| But it's got to be done. | ||
| Why does it have to be done? | ||
| Because it's too much in your life everywhere and now it's all over the world. | ||
| Let me repeat, the Secretary of the Army, just the Army, 113,140, and they're bragging about it. | ||
| We're everywhere. | ||
| That's the thing I asked when we were relieved to watch. | ||
| I said, good God, man, we're all over. | ||
| Why is that? | ||
| Who gave us the... | ||
| Did the Constitution give us the mandate to do that? | ||
| I think, if memory serves me correctly, I think that framers actually argued against this. | ||
| In fact, if memory serves me correctly, they opted out. | ||
| They took the opt-out option on Empire. | ||
| They said, hey, what Clive and you guys, you brothers do, East India Company over in India, go do it. | ||
| Here in North America, we're throwing your tea over the side. | ||
| We don't dig the monopoly charter, you know, writ that was given to you by the crown because the crown's corrupt. | ||
| You lazy aristocrats are corrupt. | ||
| You've corrupted commons. | ||
| Hell, Cromwell cleaned the place out, chopped off the king's head, and he only lasts for a couple of years. | ||
| Remember, they never want to talk about England being a republic. | ||
| That's kind of the dark times. | ||
| Don't want to talk about that. | ||
| Regicide done killed the king. | ||
| Particularly a guy who was kind of a party guy. | ||
| When he wasn't being super religious. | ||
| And here we are. | ||
| This is not serious. | ||
| It's, you know, we're taking on the deep state. | ||
| And we're going to be, those are once in a lifetime opportunity. | ||
| Once in a lifetime. | ||
| I'm just quoting your brother. | ||
| Once in a lifetime. | ||
| Well, if it's a once in a lifetime opportunity, why don't we do this for him? | ||
| Why don't we not lock things in so that they then can go and do their job? | ||
| Why don't we say this? | ||
| And if it's got to be passed this year, let's put a little one-liner out. | ||
| Hey, we're not passing the authorization, but everything that's been done before and the last one is good to extend until this goes into 2025. We've done these types of things before. | ||
| It goes into 2025 and Bob's your uncle. | ||
| And these guys get to take a shot of it. | ||
| How about that? | ||
| Can we do that? | ||
| If it's so transformational, can we do it? | ||
| No, you can't do that. | ||
| There's going to come up with 50 reasons why you can't do it. | ||
| You've got to prove the 900. I don't remember any big debate, Chip Roy, all my brothers in the House Freedom Caucus. | ||
| I don't remember any big debate. | ||
| I don't remember fire-breathing here on the number. | ||
| The number's too big. | ||
| It's too big. | ||
| We're spending too much money. | ||
| We can't afford it. | ||
| The biggest national security threat I think we got right next to the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Hey, guess what? | ||
| Is the debt and paying the interest on the debt of another trillion? | ||
| The dispository question is, wait for it, does these actions make it more probable we take out the Chinese Communist Party? | ||
| Who wins? | ||
| The Chinese Communist Party or the American Republic? | ||
| Quite simple. | ||
| You can look through the NDA and I think you come away corn-fused. | ||
| I'm not quite sure I understand it because, man, it's got us in a lot of places, like the armies in 140 of them with 113,000 troops. | ||
| This is why two things, one is make sure our response is Birch Gold. | ||
| You don't think it's going to get turbulent? | ||
| Look at Syria. | ||
| Remember, they're rubbing up on them like they rubbed up on them in Egypt. | ||
| They rubbed up on them in Tunisia. | ||
| They're all the best. | ||
| They're all Jeffersonian Democrats. | ||
| Remember in Iraq when Bush did Iraq? | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| They're rubbing up on them, man. | ||
| They're dipping their fingers in blue. | ||
| Everybody's voting. | ||
| They're all Jeffersonian Democrats. | ||
| They're all the tiny legions or whatever Burke called them. | ||
| Yeah, it doesn't turn out like that. | ||
| Never. | ||
| In Afghanistan, in Iraq... | ||
| You know, in North Africa. | ||
| Now in Syria. | ||
| They're all skipping around. | ||
| I think it's a new day. | ||
| It's a fresh day. | ||
| It'll last, I don't know, a couple of days, weeks. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Not long. | ||
| So Birch Gold, go check it out. | ||
| You're free people. | ||
| You make decisions. | ||
| We'll give you information. | ||
| Birchgold.com. | ||
| You get all the information. | ||
| We're coming out with a new entire thing on modern monetary theory. | ||
| Modern monetary theory, which is, I say, the idea that broke the world. | ||
| You've got to get your hands on that. | ||
| You're just not going to be the smartest person at the Christmas party. | ||
| You're going to be plenty smart to analyze and assess what's being done because you sit there and say, hey, I don't agree with this. | ||
| That is your participation through your agency and the sovereign will that's directing this nation, having the back of President Trump. | ||
| Two other things. | ||
| There's two things that, a couple things we do that make sure that it does not metastasize and get away from you. | ||
| One is the taxes. | ||
| You get the letter from the IRS, don't put it in the drawer. | ||
| I know people want to put it in the drawer. | ||
| You put it in the drawer, it doesn't go away. | ||
| You throw it away in the trash can, it doesn't go away. | ||
| That is a manifestation of a problem that's a ticking time bomb. | ||
| Penalties, fees, interest, all of it. | ||
| So deal with it. | ||
| Tax Network USA, TNUSA.com slash Bannon. | ||
| They'll give you a free consultation to see if you even should use their service. | ||
| And you should take that, take the freebie, fill out some things, and get the anxiety away. | ||
| Also, home title lock. | ||
| Don't let anybody get into your title. | ||
| 80% of your net worth is tied up. | ||
| It's tied up in your home, in your castle, for those lucky enough to have it. | ||
| And if you're under 35, you ain't got one. | ||
| But if you're over 35, you got one, so you don't want anybody getting the title and take out a second and then have some hard money lenders send you, hey, where's my $50,000? | ||
| And you say, well, I didn't get $50,000. | ||
| They said, hey, tough break for a swell girl or gal. | ||
| This is your title. | ||
| They used that. | ||
| Now give me my money. | ||
| And then you've got to go through a whole set of problems. | ||
| Avoid it. | ||
| Upfront. | ||
| Talk to Natalie Dominguez and the team over at Home Title Lock. | ||
| Great folks over there. | ||
| Go do it today. | ||
| HomeTitleLock.com. | ||
| Jack Montgomery, thank you for staying up. | ||
| I know you're overseas tonight, and I appreciate you. | ||
| The National Pulse is my favorite. | ||
| So, read Jack's. | ||
| I want Jack's piece up on the new Jeffersonian Democrats that say, oh, wow, last week he wasn't so much of a Jeffersonian. | ||
| We had cash money on his head, but that was last week. | ||
| This week, we've got to get a different story because we want to get some money in there. | ||
| We want to get in there and be their partners. | ||
| We need another protectorate up in the Middle East. | ||
| So make sure you read Jack Montgomery. | ||
| Jack, I got a... | ||
| It's a Taylor Lorenz, this young woman. | ||
| I guess she's not so young because now I think she said she was under 40. Now they're saying she's 50. I don't know. | ||
| It's something totally confusing about this. | ||
| But what did she say? | ||
| The guy, the gunman, the alleged gunman went to jail today. | ||
| We don't have time to play a thing, but he was giving guys wholly the what for going into jail. | ||
| He's the shooter, if we can show you that B-roll. | ||
| But you wrote an article about her. | ||
| What did she say that was so bad? | ||
| I mean, this woman's been kind of crazy for years, ripping on conservatives when nothing ever happened to her. | ||
| What did she say the other day that got her fired by the good folks over at Vox Media? | ||
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Well, Ms. Lorenz, in common with a lot of people on the left who've gone over to Blue Sky, they've bolted from X under Elon Musk after the election, are kind of going a little crazy in their echo chamber. | |
| They're getting a little bit too comfortable. | ||
| And her commentary following this shooting of the UnitedHealthcare CEO was essentially that people have justified hatred towards health insurance CEOs, responsible for unfathomable suffering, and so on. | ||
| And if she left it at that, you could have said, that's crass, that's a little insensitive, but perhaps there are issues with this industry. | ||
| But then she went on after that, after There was a story that came out about another insurance company, Blue Sky Shield, I believe, making a change in policy to do with funding for anesthesia. | ||
| She posts, she shares this article with the face and name and title of the CEO of that company. | ||
| And she says, essentially, and people wonder why we, emphasis on we, want these executives dead. | ||
| And she's tried to walk that back since and said that What she really wants is a letter writing campaign to insurance companies and I suppose the media asking for a reform in this area. | ||
| But it was a little bit too much for Vox Media. | ||
| She says, you know, I'm not fired. | ||
| I own my podcast. | ||
| But Vox isn't denying that she's been let go. | ||
| But, you know, while it is, in a way, it is funny, in a way, to see Miss Lorenz. | ||
| She's probably best known to your audience for doxing Che Rejcik at Libs of Tech Talk while she was working for The Post. | ||
| But what's more sort of concerning here is that this is a person who's been incubated by the legacy media for years. | ||
| Before she was at The Washington Post, she was at The New York Times, she was at The Daily Beast. | ||
| Most concerningly, I think, most interestingly, is that she got her start, actually, at the Daily Mail. | ||
| The Daily Mail is, of course, a British outlet. | ||
| It's supposed to be fairly hard-right. | ||
| It's regarded, certainly, by the British left as this extreme-right, hard-right newspaper. | ||
| And yet, the personnel at a lot of these supposedly right-wing outlets, I'm sure you can think of examples in America where you have the same issue, they're hiring people who are off the left. | ||
| And even if they are following a notionally conservative line, their views, which as we can see from Lorenz, their extreme views, infect everything that's coming up through these notionally right-wing outlets long before. | ||
| And that's really something that I think is... | ||
| More worrying, really, than what she's saying over on Blue Sky. | ||
| Her career arc may not be the best from the New York Times to the oblivion. | ||
| Jack, where do people go on social media to get you and how they get to The National Pulse? | ||
| The articles were fascinating, great work as usual over there. | ||
| Where do people go? | ||
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You can find me at Jack B. Montgomery on X, let's see our Y. More importantly, perhaps, you can support us at thenationalpulse.com forward slash war room. | |
| If you become a subscriber, you're supporting independent journalism, independent, MAGA, conservative, country-first, real journalism. | ||
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| There are analysis pieces that we all write that are exclusive to subscribers. | ||
| So you should get your money's worth. | ||
| No, it's fantastic. | ||
| National Pulse. | ||
| Everybody go over and check it out. | ||
| Become a subscriber today. | ||
| Jack, thanks for staying up late tonight to make us smarter. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
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Pleasure to be here. | |
| Jack Montgomery, one of the great team Raheem's got. | ||
| Mike Lindell. | ||
| End of a long, tough day, brother. | ||
| By the way, Tom Barrack just named... | ||
| President Trump just named Tom Barrack, a good buddy of mine, as the ambassador to Turkey. | ||
| You got KG in Greece. | ||
| You got Tom Barrack in Turkey. | ||
| Tom is one of the smartest guys I've ever met. | ||
| And a former prisoner. | ||
| Put in prison for defending President Trump. | ||
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| God bless you, and you guys have been great supporting us. | ||
| We love you, and we'll see you tomorrow morning. | ||
| Another action-packed day. | ||
| I love a guy. | ||
| He hits the morning. | ||
| He's two a day, just like in high school, playing football. | ||
| Mike Lindell, thank you. | ||
| Okay, we're going to be back 10 a.m. | ||
| Eastern Standard Time tomorrow. | ||
| It is on fire up here in Capitol Hill. | ||
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