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Nov. 26, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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WarRoom Battleground EP 660: How To Organize The Mass Deportations
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steve bannon
This is what you're fighting for.
I mean, every day you're out there.
What they're doing is blowing people off.
If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians get total control and total power.
Because this is just like in Arizona.
This is just like in Georgia.
It's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations.
This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.
As we've told you, this is the fight.
unidentified
All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
War Room.
Battleground.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
44,722 is what I see at the moment.
steve bannon
We have to settle out.
unidentified
We'll do that in overtime. - Well, that's the end of regulation.
Earth are ringing the closing bell, the New York Stock Exchange, and Pacer ETFs doing the honors of the NASDAQ. A record closing high for the Dow again, and likely for the Russell 2000 as well, which hit an intraday record today for the first time since 2021. That's the scorecard on Wall Street.
The index setting its first record high since 2021. The market's seemingly rallying around President-elect Trump's decision for Treasury Secretary, hedge fund manager Scott Besant.
He is the founder of Key Square Group and has a strong reputation on Wall Street.
So is today's move, in part because Trump made a conventional pick for Treasury.
Should this be another trigger to keep markets grinding higher through year-end?
He is seen as a moderating voice when it comes to spending, when it comes to China tariffs, as you had mentioned.
steve bannon
A moderating voice.
Well, time will tell.
He's a safe pair of hands.
That's what he is.
And you cannot mess around with global capital markets right now.
So huge day for President Trump.
The charges against him by the corrupt Jack Smith and the Department of Justice were dropped.
Damian Williams, the corrupt scumbag running the Southern District of New York, stepped down, running away, rat leaving a ship.
Run as far as you can, Damien.
Just make sure wherever you run, there's no extradition treaty because you're getting brought back here to face justice.
So the economics off the charts with President Trump today.
So huge day.
Mike Lindell, you were at the business end of the FBI and the Justice Department in these corrupt courts trying to shut you down, trying to bankrupt you.
We got Tina Peters, who you fought so hard for.
She's riding in a prison right now with a nine-year sentence.
A 70-year-old woman, a Gold Star mother in a prison on trumped-up charges.
Today is a day of righteous victory, but just the start of us turning this around.
The American people rendered, as Jonathan Turley just said on Fox, the largest jury verdict in the history of our nation.
Almost 80 million Americans voted to throw these bums out.
Mike Lindell, your thoughts?
mike lindell
Well, it's a great day for America.
You know, I wonder, Steve, if they're going to give my tens of millions of dollars back now.
And, you know, like you say, you just started with them dropping all the charges.
Is this going to be a trickle-down where all of us will be vindicated for everything we fought for?
I hope so.
It is just a start, like you say.
We broke through the biggest cover-up, the biggest crime in history, and I'm looking forward to the next couple years.
I was just on a big call to the country about an hour ago to all my people out there, and I said, you know what, you guys, this is the beginning.
This is the beginning of a new season, a new season we're in, where we have to go.
Everyone needs to...
Write the right, and then we better be proactive going into the future here, and we learn from everything that happened, and it's going to be amazing, Steve.
I was so happy to hear that today, but I'll tell you, the tax they did all the way down, and you're right, Tina Peters sitting in there, that should be the first thing that people should get her out.
I mean, nine years, Gold Star Mom, and all she did was do her job to get the evidence, to turn in What the corruption that they were doing in Colorado, and it's still going on as we speak.
And people asked me today, well, when are these people going to go to prison?
We don't even know who they all are yet.
I mean, let's get our election platform secure.
I know we got to do that.
And I really think things are going to fall now one by one.
In a big way.
And I'm really looking forward to it.
I'm looking forward to it.
I love the economy.
I'm watching the stock market rise.
And I told everybody out there, the first thing our great real president is going to do is bring down those shipping prices so our economy can roar again.
Because it affects our groceries.
It affects everything.
It affects your MyPills.
It affects everything.
And I really believe that's going to happen in short order.
steve bannon
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People want to know, they love when you come on, particularly what you've suffered, but hey, at the end of the day, they're looking for a deal.
What do you got?
mike lindell
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steve bannon
I appreciate you, sir.
It's the audience, the War Room Posse.
But Mike, one more time, where do people go?
I want to make sure everybody gets access to your screw-up this morning and takes advantage of it.
mike lindell
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steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate you.
I know you're on the tarmac getting ready to take off.
Thank you, sir.
Do I have Sheriff Mack?
Is Sheriff Mack up?
Sheriff Mack, thank you for joining us, Sheriff.
First off, a huge day today because the Justice Department finally threw in the towel on President Trump.
But I have deeper issues with you in that you have an organization of sheriffs throughout the country.
There's all kind of blowback.
You got the mayor of Denver.
You got the mayor of Chicago.
People already...
Trying to quote-unquote the radical left of Trump proof about President Trump's policy and saying, hey, President Trump can say anything he wants as President of the United States, but we're not going to follow it.
Walk me through particularly sanctuary cities and other things that President Trump's going to do regarding deportations.
Where are the sheriffs in this country coming out on this, sir?
sheriff richard mack
Well, it's great to be with you, Steve, and I'm telling you, I consider you and Mike Lindell a good friend, and what happened to you the last four or five months It was a national disgrace.
I'm glad you're out.
I'm glad you're back to work.
And God bless you and your family.
As far as the sheriffs go, we've been putting this out nationwide that the deportation will be much more successful if the sheriffs are participating.
The sheriffs know the counties.
They know where these people are.
They know which ones belong in the community and they know which ones do not.
Especially the smaller, mid-sized counties all across America.
There's no one who knows the sheriff, who knows the county better than the sheriffs.
So we want to push this, that we will have President Trump's back, no matter what's going on.
But to make sure that this deportation is fair and effective and successful, the sheriffs need to be helping with this.
The mayor of Phoenix is doing the same thing that these other liberal leftist extremists are doing.
But it's up to the sheriff, not up to the mayor.
And the last time I checked, Phoenix is in Maricopa County.
And we have a good, strong constitutional sheriff who just got elected in Phoenix or in Maricopa County.
And he's terrific.
He's part of our organization.
And we're ready to roll and help President Trump make sure that this is successful.
steve bannon
So, Sheriff Mack, in 1832, I think it was, and President General Andrew Jackson's, I think the issue was tariffs.
And South Carolina, which was a hotbed of kind of succession even then, said they were just going to nullify the presidential law and federal law.
Right now, you have in Phoenix, you have Denver, and you have Chicago.
And I think San Francisco too, but definitely those three have sat there and go, if President Trump starts to give deportation orders, that they will sit there and go, we're not going to enforce them.
Who's the decision maker?
Is it the county sheriff?
Is it the mayor?
Walk our audience through this, because already they're starting to try to get a political resistance to what President Trump's trying to do to get our sovereignty back, sir.
sheriff richard mack
Well, certainly the states have some sovereignty, and we're all for state sovereignty.
But the CLEO, the Chief Law Enforcement Officer, in my Supreme Court case, in the decision, Justice Scalia, writing for the majority, said that the sheriffs were the CLEOs.
He says that acronym in the Supreme Court case of January of 1997, the only time in history where sheriffs sued the federal government and won a major landmark decision at the U.S. Supreme Court.
Scalia knew what he was talking about.
Indeed, the sheriff is the Cleo.
The mayor does not supersede the sheriff.
The sheriff has countywide authority.
It goes through the cities.
Yes, we want our sheriffs working with the cities, but if they will continue to commit crimes and sanctuary cities are committing a crime.
Those sanctuary cities are aiding and abetting criminals who've come here.
And not only that, they're aiding and abetting cartels and terrorists and Chinese dissidents and Russian dissidents.
And allowing those people to come in here unfettered is absolutely something the American people said November 5th.
We don't want that anymore.
We're not putting up with it anymore.
And so the sheriff now has a mandate.
And if he has to go into the cities, hey, they're part of Maricopa County.
And so be it.
steve bannon
Yeah, I'm not sure it's dissidents.
I think it's the guys, the CCP guys that haven't been vetted and the Russian guys haven't been vetted.
I'm not so sure.
I think the dissidents might be on our side.
But I want to go to this point Todd Benzman made today, and I was arguing with him, and I revere Todd Benzman.
There's this concept.
People are talking.
There's a lot of loose talk about using the military and FEMA bases and military bases.
I made the argument between the sheriff's And the local jails and facilities that could be used in a holding pattern right now, I think, at least on the first wave, because this thing's going to take a while to work out, we have kind of the infrastructure.
We have the sheriffs.
You have facilities that can hold, you know, am I incorrect in that?
There's all this talk about the military.
I just say, hey, slow it down.
Slow your roll.
Let's deal with the sheriffs first, that they're the first line to be able to do that.
Am I too far off base on that?
sheriff richard mack
No, that's perfect.
You're right on target there.
Because, Steve, listen, the military, I believe, should go to the border and stop the bleeding.
And I hope that's what they have in mind.
And then have the National Guard and the posses working with the sheriffs and the sheriff's offices working nationwide to identify who needs to be brought in and bring them in.
This can work.
But we've got to have the sheriff's And while we're at it, how about Sheriff Mark Lamb for Director of the FBI? I like Kash Patel.
unidentified
Wow.
sheriff richard mack
I'd really like to see them both working together.
But I'm serious.
unidentified
I really would like to see Sheriff Lamb.
steve bannon
I'm a Kash guy.
Attorney General Andrew Bailey is great.
I'm a Kash guy.
But hey, Mark Lamb is the man.
I love Mark Lamb.
I love Sheriff Lamb.
Where do people go?
So I want people to spend time.
We will.
We're going to work on that.
Where do people go to find out more about your organization?
Because I think you're going to see more sheriffs join it because you guys are going to be the front line and helping to sort this thing out and do it in a humane way.
Like you said, you know where to go.
It's not going to be you downplay the drama.
This does not have to be dramatic.
The left's going to want to do it like that.
There's no need to do that.
There's no need to be anything but humane in this situation.
These folks that came up.
We're going to work on that.
We're invited by a corrupt regime of the Biden regime that initiated and exacerbated the invasion of our country, right?
These are human beings.
We've got to figure out this whole thing's quite complicated, but that's why I think people feel comfortable with the sheriffs being the front line of this.
So where do they go to find out more about your organization, sir?
sheriff richard mack
Look, this is the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association, and it's for all people.
Every citizen can become a member of our posse, so we help train you to be part of your sheriff's posse.
All of it's available.
My books, my Supreme Court case.
Folks, it's all there.
CSPOA.org.
Become a member today.
Make a donation.
And let's be part of the solution together.
It's got to be that the American people are involved in this.
Work with your sheriff.
Join his posse.
Join our posse.
That's CSPOA.org.
Let's be part of the solution.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate you.
Sheriff Mack.
sheriff richard mack
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
Constitutional sheriffs.
Very important.
One thing I want to say about this, and that's why I think everybody's got to take a deep breath.
You've got Homan and you've got Stephen Miller.
You've got a great team over there.
They're getting a lot of backup now from McGinley and other people on the legal side.
They're thinking this thing through.
Just two things I bring up.
Instead of running around, talking about the military, I think the sheriff's right.
Send the military to the border to make sure we stop the bleeding.
And then you can use your front line.
You've got ICE that you've got to, as Todd said today, we've got to rebuild that, that kind of apparatus.
But you've got the sheriff, so you can start the process.
But I do think that President Trump has got to, and I recommend, let's go to McAllen, Texas.
McAllen is kind of what I call the capital of the Rio Grande Valley, and the Rio Grande Valley has kind of been the epicenter in this.
And folks in the Rio Grande Valley are now MAGA. They voted for President Trump.
A lot of those counties down there, a lot of those districts are red.
Let's go to McAllen in the first couple of months of President Trump's term.
Let's go there.
And what we do is you have like a summit.
You have a summit, and the summit brings the frontline nations of Central America up.
Including Panama, which I think would be very open to building a wall across the Darien Gap.
You bring Mexico up.
Even talking about Brazil and some of the countries in South America where the Haitians and people have been kind of waiting for years.
We have to have an agreement, right?
Scott Besson has talked about, you know, economic deportation.
I think you have to work with those countries and figure out how all this is going to be done and how it's all going to be done in a humane manner.
Remember, And I also think you've got to be very precise.
We've got to start with the folks that came here starting in the afternoon of 20 January of 2021 all the way up to 20 January of 2025. That's going to be 10 million plus people.
That is enormous.
There's never been a deportation at that scale.
This has to be thought through.
It's going to be humane because the American people are the most kind-hearted people in the history of this earth.
We've got to do this right.
But...
To be brutally frank about it, everybody's got to go home.
This is only for American citizens because this has destroyed the working class African Americans and Hispanic citizens, particularly in those income levels, and we just can't continue on that.
Wall Street is not going to be allowed to destroy these folks.
It has to be well thought through, and you have a lot of smart people, you have a lot of tough people.
That are doing this.
So let's just get on with it.
It's going to be very complicated.
I got a lot more to get through.
I got Dr. Malone.
So Dr. Malone, and by the way, we're trying to get O'Keefe up here.
I don't think we've pulled it off to get the footage, but he's got some inside baseball.
I want to ask your thoughts.
Directionally, you've been on this from the very beginning of the pandemic.
You're obviously one of the One of the leaders, MNRA, that you kind of were the inventor of, the co-inventor of.
What is your take?
You know Bobby Kennedy very well.
You were up there the day that Bobby Kennedy announced for the presidency.
You've been part of his gang from the beginning.
Where do you think we stand?
Because I know there's been some controversial announcements, but some other announcements that our audience is not exactly thrilled with.
I keep saying, hey, President Trump gets to pick his team, but I want to kind of pick your brain.
Where do you think we stand in the entire process?
And let's go in agriculture, because we had Nicole Shanahan on here, and she's saying, hey, to make America healthy again, you've got to have USDA and you've got to have HHS. What's your assessment as we run up to Thanksgiving on the transition so far, sir?
dr robert malone
Well, first off, a shout-out to Nicole Shanahan.
She has been batting way above her pay grade.
I think she's one of the big surprises in the last year and a half as she's first joined Bobby and then kind of gone independent.
She represents Northern California liberal women.
And she's come over to our side in a big way and is making a lot of sense.
In terms of what's going on with the transition, I just finished writing an essay for tomorrow.
On Substack about this, about my thoughts.
And I've had a lot of calls over the last week, and particularly over the weekend, of people that are quite, let's say, gently perplexed over some of these appointments, particularly the appointment of the Surgeon General and her history.
And the appointment at the FDA, to some extent, as an academic, the pending appointment, there's a lot of names being floated around regarding NIH. And it's important to remember that the director of NIH really doesn't have a whole lot of power.
They're not directly responsible for supervising the various institute heads.
But hang on.
steve bannon
Hang on.
Hang on a second.
If Vivek and Elon said, hey, Dr. Malone, we want you to join DOGE and come up and help us think through...
So let's start there.
Do we need an NIH? When you say the director doesn't coordinate, I mean, what does it do?
What is the purpose?
Is this one that should be on the chopping block?
Does it perform a value-added vital service?
Or is this just another thing that's been able to kind of grow up in Washington, D.C.? The lobbyists are all over it.
I mean, NIH is a perfect example.
When you're talking to Vivek, hey, they're talking about $2 trillion a year at a $6.5 trillion.
So there's a lot of things on the chopping block.
dr robert malone
Should NIH... NIH very much represents the interests of various largely large urban centers and universities.
And it's been used, like the Henry Jackson Foundation on a smaller scale, has been used as a form of pork barrel, really, if you look at it.
And they're very sensitive to this at NIH. They provide Congress With a list of how much money and what grants have gone to what universities within their districts.
So it's very much tied into lobbying.
And this has been one of the strengths of Tony Fauci, is that he's played this game very, very well.
He's played Congress like a fiddle.
And the NIH has grown enormously over the last two decades.
And the power has become more and more concentrated in older and more senior people and really the younger innovators have become indentured servants in the form of long-standing postdocs.
The organization, NIH itself, has, to my eye, done everything it can to neuter any oversight function that exists within that structure so that these people have Free reign to do whatever they want at government expense,
basically a lifelong guarantee of employment to do pretty much whatever they want within their silo, which is one of the other big problems with NIH is it's deeply siloed.
And as a consequence, you have a focus on individual diseases.
Not a focus on overall health or integration across, you know, transformational platform technology, etc.
All has to be pitched in the context of a given institute and its mission.
And notoriously, you as an investigator or a discovery researcher, if you're seeking federal funding from one of these institutes, You pretty much have to comport with whatever the dominant paradigm is of that institute.
So notoriously, drug abuse.
If you were to be a researcher in the drug abuse space and you have findings that, let's say, for example, marijuana has some beneficial effects or an opioid or a drug Some other agent that is neurologically active,
psychologically active, then you are likely to no longer find yourself funded if you're going against whatever the dominant paradigm is.
So it's deeply corrupted.
It has really emasculated any functional oversight.
It has become very adroit at recognizing what it works for, which is representatives.
steve bannon
Talk to me about...
Doc, tell me also the problem you've got with the Surgeon General.
I know a lot of people are very concerned about some of the stuff she said about information warfare.
What's your problem with her?
dr robert malone
It's not my problem.
More generally, to illustrate, there's a large amount of chatter in the...
Space of X among many of the people that were deeply involved in the medical freedom movement that she is not someone who has been committed to medical freedom.
She appears to have ties with the pharmaceutical industry and I seem to be having some bandwidth problems.
I'm sorry.
You there?
steve bannon
I tell you what, let's reboot the doctor.
Here momentarily, we're getting back up in the second hour.
Dr. Malone joins us.
We're trying to get Dave Walsh.
I'm tracking down Darren Beatty for a little victory lap.
Big day for Darren Beatty and the guys at Revolver.
Joe Allen's going to try to get it all in in the second hour of the War Room on a massive day.
Yes, stock market at a, I think, all-time high, or at least since 2021. The Besant bounce for the announcement of President Trump after weeks and weeks and weeks.
Scott Besant named as Secretary of the Treasury.
I think other economic announcements are becoming momentarily, maybe even the FBI momentarily.
Andrew Bailey, Kash Patel in the hunt there as Axios reports.
Either way, Kash will either be the director or the deputy.
The deputy looks like he could run the building.
Andrew Bailey, a very highly thought of attorney general from the great state of Missouri, is in the hunt also.
A lot going on down in Mar-a-Lago.
A lot going on in West Palm Beach at the transition headquarters.
A lot going on in Washington as people are now starting to make some initial contact.
So the transition document has not been signed.
That's all to come.
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All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
War Room Battleground with Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Thanks.
We're going to have some producing here.
Darren Beattie's going to join us tomorrow about all the reporting he's done on the Jack Smith thing.
I want to tee up momentarily the Russ vote.
unidentified
I'm going to tell my production team we're going to call for that in a second.
steve bannon
So, Dr. Malone, and I would appreciate if you took a second And read Dale Bigtree.
And folks, you've got to remember, Dale Bigtree is the guy, he and his organization very early on went to court and put up the money for the lawyers that basically went to federal court and had a judge reverse the decision, even then of the...
Of the Trump administration, but really the big pharma guys.
Remember, all the documents for Pfizer were going to be locked up under lock and key and held secret for 75 years.
The whole reason the Pfizer paper, the whole reason the book, the whole reason Naomi Wolf and Amy Kelly and the 3,500 War Room Posse volunteers was because of Dell Bigtree.
There's been widespread, let me just say, it's been widespread outrage, particularly among our audience and other audiences that have been at the front line of this pandemic from the beginning about the selection of the Surgeon General.
And I think one of the questions is, like, where's Bobby Kennedy?
I mean, people fought so hard.
Kennedy's a revered guy.
He's now HHS. The media's attacking him every second of the day.
President Trump's made a courageous and historic decision to make him head of it.
Where is he in this decision-making process?
And I know Dale Bricktree had something to say about that, and you've got it in front of you, Dr. Malone.
dr robert malone
So it's not clear to me really what's going on, and I'm not that close.
And by the way, the shout-out for those legal cases goes to Aaron Seary as much or more than Del Bigtree.
And Aaron is absolutely acting as the fist in Bobby's glove right now.
So Del posted something on X last night that I think was very revealing, and Cameron has just put it up there.
Basically, Del is saying inferring.
That their strategy is to play it more safe in terms of the appointments that they're making because if they get appointments that run through and are less controversial, he appears to believe that that will be more successful in achieving the overall objectives.
Now, if you were to look at that post and then look at the various comments, people roasted him.
The people that have been at the forefront of speaking out Are starting to get a little bit pissed off by these appointments.
You know, the top-tier appointments, including Tulsi, who is now coming under fire, have been really encouraging.
But down below that, within HHS, we have a lot of folks that are academics, haven't really taken a particularly strong stand in the COVID crisis, in resisting the mandates, lockdowns, mandated vaccine products, suppression of early treatment.
And so there had been an anticipation in many of these supporters of the Make America Healthy Again agenda that these folks that had been at the forefront of speaking out or resisting the government policies during Biden-Harris would be in a position to play key roles in HHS in this attempt to transform things.
I think that what we're looking at is some tactical and strategic decisions.
I think that Bobby's team is running up into the reality of DC and DC culture.
I can't really tell what the outcome is going to be, but my counsel, and what I'll put out tomorrow in my essay, is that we have faith in God.
We have faith that there is a purpose here, and we don't know what the outcome is going to be.
It's not useful right now, in my opinion, to start shooting At the transition team.
I think we need to let them do their work and they will make mistakes.
There'll be mistakes in this administration and there will be consequences.
But that doesn't mean that we shouldn't, those of us that have been at the front lines in pursuing freedom, medical freedom, medical ethics, etc.
That doesn't mean that we should hold back or stop our efforts.
You know, this is This is one administration, and this is going to be a long-term fight.
So I think we need to be a little patient, give them some oxygen, give these appointees the benefit of the doubt, in my opinion, because Trump has won the right to appoint the people that he feels he needs to have around him that he can trust.
And if that means that we have a Surgeon General that a number of us may not be fully confident in because of prior positions taken and perhaps we might have wanted some other person, this is Mr. Trump's decision.
It's not even Bobby Kennedy's decision to make.
And I counsel that we give him a little bit of time.
steve bannon
By the way, a lot of wisdom there, very judicious.
Let me give the counterargument.
If you look at what we have to do in the administrative state and even the deep state, and you look how embedded this administration is in the Defense Department, the intelligence apparatus, so we have the team over there at Defense right now that's trying to work that through.
Hang on.
I'm robbing this train.
You got the defense guys there.
You obviously have Homeland Security, but that's not quite as embedded or as bad as you've got the intel, what Tulsi's doing with the 18 agencies.
You've got the guys coming into justice, the men in one of the Pan Bondi, working at the White House Counsel with that rat's nest we saw today.
The one...
That may be the toughest to dig out is big pharma in the medical industry because they've made so much money and they are dug in.
You're going to have to go in with a trenching tool.
And Fauci and Collins and these guys have made themselves impervious because they sprinkled the goodies around every congressional district.
So you have literally no backup at all on the Hill.
My recommendation to President Trump, what has worked for you, Mr. President, time and time again, and today of all days in the victory, The only thing the apparatus understands is blunt force trauma.
You're a blunt force instrument, and in Bobby Kennedy, you have a guy that is the most blunt force instrument against big pharma and big medical.
We cannot compromise.
You particularly can't compromise.
If you go in with patty cake, You're going to get rolled.
Because the lobbyists in this city, the Capitol Hill's not going to have your back.
Every day is going to be a fight.
And my recommendation is you need muzzle velocity and you need it with the best, most fearsome people.
And there's so many great people that fought this fight over the last couple of years, Dr. Malone.
You know them.
I mean, you've been at the tip of the spear, too.
If we don't come together in back of Bobby...
And not listen to the lobbyists and not listen to Capitol Hill and not listen to all those people saying, hey, let's go up there and try.
You can't reason with this group.
Look what they try to do on the vaccine.
Look what they try to do on the pandemic.
Look what they try to do locking people down.
They're not reasonable people.
These are another set of Bolsheviks.
In fact, they may be the worst Bolsheviks of the entire crowd.
And that's why they have to be taken on and taken head on and not back down.
So my counsel to the president, Is hit them with a mailed fist and hit them right now.
And out every Republican on Capitol Hill.
And let's have it right now.
Like Frankie Patangelo said in The Godfather, let's hit them while we're strong.
And let's out the guys on Capitol Hill that don't have our back.
Your thoughts and comments on that, Dr. Malone?
dr robert malone
So, Steve, you're dead...
Right.
In terms of the culture of NIH and HHS, a lot of these folks that are now retiring of Tony Fauci's age cohort entered the NIH and HHS as a way to avoid the Vietnam War draft.
And there's a euphemism that used to go around for these folks.
They called them the Yellow Berets.
So they are a legacy from the 60s.
Concur the bandwidth.
steve bannon
Okay, let's go and take you down.
That setup he's got doesn't work for me.
Thank you, Doc.
We'll try to figure out your setup later, but this happens all the time with Malone.
Right when I get all worked up, we losing.
He's great.
I guess that studio is not working so well.
I love the look.
I just hate the sound.
President Trump gets to pick the picks.
Here's my point.
My point is that they're embedded, embedded special interest in the imperial capital.
Some are more embedded than others.
If you think the defense industry is embedded and you think cutting the defense budget is going to be tough...
Where do you start talking about cuts to Medicaid?
Where do you start taking cuts to other aspects of the medical complex?
And when you talk about Big Pharma, because I say right now, I agree with Bobby.
First thing we ought to do is executive order.
There should be no TV advertising by Big Pharma.
None.
Just like in the countries in Europe.
If that happens, MSNBC will be a test pattern.
They won't be able to come.
You think it's bad they're spending them off now because they're not making any money?
They'll liquidate it because they live off Big Pharma of jamming that down your throat and building a constituency to fight up on Capitol Hill for more giveaways.
The people that I think actually have to be the toughest and the most relentless are actually the people going to HHS. I think Bobby Kennedy's got to come up with a group like the Untouchables.
I think that job's actually harder than Tulsi's.
I think it's harder than Hex's.
I think it's harder than paying bondies.
And hey, those three jobs are about as hard as you get.
And this is the hardest one.
Because it's the most embedded and they're making the most money.
And they're not prepared to back off.
And remember, this is the way Collins and Fauci worked for years and years and years.
They've spread cash all over the place in every congressional district.
So you've got every congressman looking for the goodies, looking for the handouts that are going to have their back.
Anyway, this is one that we're going to deal with every day.
Another guy I want to get up here to make sure that we're not missing on anything is Dave Walsh.
Dave, there's so much to go through in energy.
I'm going to toss the ball to you to get us up to date on everything that's going on with President Trump's full-spectrum dominance energy plan, but I had to bring it up, and I need people to focus on this.
Right now, if you talk about the green—Cop 29 is a joke.
They want a trillion dollars, I think, every year to 2035 from the developed nations.
That means the United States—like, we got this kind of money.
They want us to write a $500 billion check every year to go to third-world dictators.
The thing's a joke.
But what they're not talking about is the elites have kind of backed off the sustainability thing.
The reason COP's not up in your face and not on the front page anymore and not leading MSNBC is that Silicon Valley is most concerned about artificial intelligence.
And artificial intelligence is going to take so much new energy.
All this phony thing of the wind power and the sun power.
They're looking at artificial intelligence, which I think is three or four times, three or four X, which you warned us about.
And now they're saying, hey, to do a certain data center on AI is as much power to power cities like Chicago, Atlanta, Baltimore, and New York City.
Your thoughts, sir?
dave walsh
Yeah, you're looking really at one, two, three gigawatts, which would support a million, two million people per operation at a data center, service center for AI. Huge, huge quantities of constant duty, 24-hour-a-day electricity that cannot be supplied by solar, wind, and battery storage.
It can only be supplied in the next 10 to 15 years by advanced combined-cycle gas-fired power plants.
So we're looking at a scenario where even the elites have kind of figured out, and guys like Fink, I've led the way with this discourse all about AI, but he knows the real truth.
And his investment juggernaut is also a big investor in independently owned combined cycle generating plants.
So he makes money on this coming and going in his business activity.
But we need policies that are going to get at, yes, drill, baby, drill.
We got that nailed down.
Great appointment in Burgum.
And Chris Wright specifically, Chris, with his position on global warming, which has been very out there and very appropriate.
We've got to get over to using gas and oil for electric power generation and stop this use of solar, wind, and battery storage.
There are four to seven-hour-a-day resources, intermittent, very, very costly, and get in the way of this.
You just talked about the legislative buy-in or buyout by Duke Energy, by AEP, by OPPD, Dominion Energy, NextEra, through lobbyists of the Congress.
And of state houses and state senates who run electrification policy in the country.
We're going to have to get our arms around this policy and get attention to abating local utilities and regional utilities from using this nonsense to generate power that costs five to ten times the money that basic combined cycle gas-fired power does to use the gas here and to go ahead and get this stuff de-incentivized.
We need a legislative agenda to get it de-incentivized.
And when that doesn't work, To have our strong new czar, this is a great move of wisdom by the president in also naming Burgum the chairman of the newly formed Energy Council to get an all-of-government, all-in-energy approach moving ahead, which will include eradicating these incentives and hopefully turning around the EPA's determination that carbon was a dangerous pollutant, a greenhouse gas.
That endangerment finding can be turned around by the EPA, To the benefit of getting gas and coal once again used for electric power generation to support server centers and human beings concurrently.
Because right now we're not doing both.
steve bannon
Real quickly, if you had to sit there with the president, because people should know Dave Walsh, hopefully I think is going to be a senior guy in the administration.
If you had to advise President Trump on the one or two things that he should focus on at his level, what would it be, Dave Walsh, about energy?
dave walsh
Well, we need a legislative agenda formed by the president and his energy council to dismantle the incentives on wind, solar, and battery storage.
We need to dismantle the EPA restrictions that are going to bar natural gas being used by 2035 for power generation.
That's easily done.
Get coal back on the map, supercritical, high-efficiency coal back on the map as a qualified energy source once again.
So we can support all the power we need.
These things can be done.
I'm a little concerned with the Senate leadership that we now have that we may not have the support to dismantle the incentives.
If we don't, tariffs on solar panels and wind turbines and inverters and battery storage largely emanating from China, we can impose to offset the incentives that Congress may not be willing to eradicate on those meaningless power sources.
unidentified
So those are the things that we can do.
steve bannon
Using tariffs.
I love it.
Dave Walsh, where do people go?
Glad we're connected again.
Where do people go to follow all your great analysis on the energy side, sir?
dave walsh
It's Dave, a blessing to have you back.
I'm on the getter and true social at Dave Walsh Energy.
And a privilege to be on, Dave.
Thank you.
steve bannon
You're the man.
Joe Allen, I want to have you on here to follow Dave tonight because artificial intelligence is everything.
NVIDIA, the stock's on fire.
They're announcing new increased revenues every day.
But there's a warning.
Henry Kissinger, the last thing he did, I know the audience is no fan of Kissinger, but he did write a book on AI before he died.
I think they've updated a new version saying the single biggest threat to mankind is going to be superhuman, superintelligence robots.
Also, you're seeing this all the time.
All of Silicon Valley is focused on artificial intelligence and the driving artificial intelligence.
What do you got for me, sir?
joe allen
Well, Steve, I'm not that worried about robots coming to kill everybody.
I'm not that worried about robots in general.
What I'm worried about is the people who are deploying these robots and not the robots themselves so much as the artificial intelligence.
The best you can hope for is that human beings are going to use these technologies to benefit other human beings.
That's not what we're positioned to see.
What we are positioned to see is human atrophy and the most powerful men, corporations, and governments on earth putting all their chips basically on the machines and not on the people.
You see it in education, You see it in corporate culture.
You're about to see it in a big way in government.
And maybe most ominously, Steve, we're going to see that more and more in defense or offense in the military.
steve bannon
Hold it, brothers, real quickly.
I love this.
Human atrophy.
This is a piece of nomenclature for the posse.
What in the hell do you mean by that, brother?
joe allen
As the machines get better and better at imitating intelligence, human beings are getting dumber and dumber.
We're turning students over to machines in order to educate them.
We're relying more and more on machines to give us the valuable information we need to make decisions.
And more and more, we're seeing the push to put the machines themselves in decision-making positions.
So I'm not, again, worried about AI and what AI will do, at least not at the moment.
I'm worried about what the people who are building and deploying AI are going to do.
And we're already seeing it.
And I don't see any push whatsoever from any politician that's really meaningful.
Josh Hawley's been good, but it's really meaningful to mitigate this massive transformation.
All I see are pom-poms.
steve bannon
Dark Aeon is the book.
The author is our own Joe Allen.
Joe, social media, where do people get all your writings?
Because you nailed something here.
Human atrophy.
We're getting dumber and lazier because of AI. Where do they go, sir?
joe allen
You can find everything at J-O-E-B-O-T-X-Y-Z, X, or Gitter, and of course, Jobot.xyz.
The book is available there, signed editions, and I think you'll find that Everything that I wrote a year and a half ago is basically coming to fruition, unfortunately.
But we'll see what happens.
It might be a big bright future, Steve.
We'll see.
steve bannon
Yeah.
Highly unlikely, unless the war room posse gets involved, I'm telling you.
This is the signal, not the noise.
And that book is so prophetic.
The reason is you're an incredibly smart guy that put a lot of focus on this thing.
Amazing.
Thank you, brother.
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