Nov. 26, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| The election of Donald Trump is coming to an end, though not in the way the special counsel had intended. | ||
| With Donald Trump taking office come January, Smith's cases are likely to die anyway, so now he's taking the steps he can to wrap things up while he has the authority to do so, filing a motion to dismiss both the election interference case and the classified documents case. | ||
| And while the move isn't unexpected, the consequences could still be significant. | ||
| Namely, what Donald Trump will feel he can now do as president more than ever. | ||
| Not just the way he wields executive power, but what and who he chooses to wield it against. | ||
| Including, in this case in particular, Jack Smith himself and the team of prosecutors who helped investigate him. | ||
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Look, I think in some ways it's a very interesting question, maybe for a law school exam, Katie. | |
| In other ways, Mr. Trump can slam the door shut very easily by pardoning himself from these offenses. | ||
| Now, open question as to whether or not a president can pardon himself. | ||
| It hasn't happened before. | ||
| It may happen here. | ||
| But in the end, I think, Katie, the odds of these cases coming back to life one way or the other are relatively small. | ||
| If they do come back to life, it's not going to be until the end of Mr. Trump's term. | ||
| I think that's a fair assessment. | ||
| Tom, if I were Jack Smith today, I'd be a little bit nervous. | ||
| If I was anybody on his prosecutorial team, I'd be nervous as well, especially if I was one of those career employees who was assigned to the job and was just doing as I was assigned. | ||
| I was investigating, as I was told, following the law and following the crumbs that Donald Trump left where they may. | ||
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Two Office of Legal Counsel opinions within the Department of Justice, one during the Nixon years, one during the Bill Clinton years, said that a sitting president cannot be charged at the time that he is president. | |
| So it was no question that this was going to be dismissed, but if you're going to dismiss it, I mean, why on God's green earth would Jack Smith seek to have this dismissed with prejudice, which And why not just take the, as Lisa said, a flyer? | ||
| Why not take the possibility that it would be dismissed without prejudice and it could be revived later? | ||
| I do think there is a big, that's sort of like not surprising. | ||
| I do think there is an open issue as to whether Jack Smith should have I mean, what he gets out of this is he gets it much more likely that Judge Chetkin is going to agree that it should be dismissed without prejudice, that it's not gone for all times and all purposes. | ||
| But at the same token, by Jack Smith doing this and not requiring the new incoming president to do it himself, He's sort of doing in some ways the future administration's work for it. | ||
| In other words, to the extent that there's any political hit, I'm not saying there is or isn't, but to the extent that there's any, why not say, you know what, Donald Trump, if you are going to dismiss a righteous prosecution, You're going to have to do it. | ||
| We're not going to do it. | ||
| So it's a tradeoff because he's getting a more likely dismissal without prejudice, but sort of more into Molly's field, which is sort of political repercussions. | ||
| He is in some ways doing the work for the incoming administration. | ||
| He sees this as a personal betrayal, and when he gets his attorney general, and I think Pam Bondy will probably sail through at this point, he will direct her to start going after people that are within his reach, because these are people I was a federal employee when Donald Trump was president, so I know that feeling. | ||
| He will go after people who are within his reach as federal employees to charge them, I assume, with some kind of misconduct. | ||
| It's just a complete breaking of norms. | ||
| It's going to destroy a big part of the rule of law in the United States, but here we are. | ||
| How do you expect that to happen, him to be going after who he can? | ||
| Is it through another special counsel, or is there another way to go through and start weeding out people, Tom? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I'm not a lawyer. | ||
| I worked for the Defense Department in my time. | ||
| I assume that what he can do is find the superiors of these folks and open cases for some kind of misconduct, for some kind of fireable offense, some sort of charge that he can lay against them that in any other Justice Department, no superior, no... | ||
| Would lay that kind of charge against the subordinate, but these are going to be different times. | ||
| And one question I have, I suppose, I wonder how many people he'll have to go through. | ||
| How many people will resign rather than do that? | ||
| But, you know, the process for punishing federal employees is pretty well laid out. | ||
| And the misconduct has to be pretty clear. | ||
| So he's going to have to get people that are willing to violate the sense of all those rules in order to get at those people. | ||
| But I don't see anything stopping him and anything that could be a guardrail or prevent him from doing it. | ||
| Trump plans to fire Jack Smith's team, use DOJ to probe 2020 election. | ||
| Trump is also planning to assemble investigative teams within the Justice Department to hunt for evidence in battleground states that fraud tainted the 2020 election, one of the people said. | ||
| His lawyers are there to validate for him his deranged thinking about the 2020 election that the entire system was put upon against him. | ||
| The fraud was rife. | ||
| Of all the people on the ballot in 2020, he was the only one who was targeted. | ||
| That Use of the department is also something that's going to be very, very problematic because it's going to distract from the necessary work it has to do real time otherwise. | ||
| Yeah, the first thing that comes to mind here, well, two things. | ||
| One is, you know, talk about weaponizing the government and the DOJ. They're going to devote resources to pursuing people who he disagrees with politically, career investigators at FBI, prosecutors at DOJ, who simply did their job. | ||
| Who have spouses and kids and just want to have a normal life and not get pursued, possibly having to flee the country. | ||
| I'm telling you, I'm talking to former colleagues who are wondering whether they need to move out of the country because there are going to be cases against them fabricated, made up. | ||
| And talking about firing staff You've got to do that by getting away of civil service protections. | ||
| And that means lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit. | ||
| And what can the FBI and DOJ really be doing, like chasing pedophile rings, like taking down violent gangs in your city? | ||
| But no, we're going to dedicate a workforce to pursuing Trump's enemies. | ||
| It's going to come to an impasse and it's going to be in the courts forever. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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Mega Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance. | ||
| It's Monday, 25 November, the year of our hour, 2024. | ||
| You care about DOJ resources? | ||
| He spent $50 million. | ||
| Hey, bro, the FBI guy there at the end whining and crying. | ||
| What's so disgusting about you guys? | ||
| We took it like men. | ||
| We fought back. | ||
| We never backed up an inch. | ||
| Some of us went to prison. | ||
| We never backed up an inch. | ||
| And today, today is a crushing victory for President Trump in the MAGA movement. | ||
| Jack Smith drops it all. | ||
| Damien Williams, the corrupt source, a scumbag at Southern District of New York running away. | ||
| You guys can't run. | ||
| Run all you want. | ||
| And the guy at the FBI, the guy on MSNC, oh, it's so terrible, they're gonna have to get lawyers. | ||
| Yeah, you're damn right you're gonna have to get lawyers. | ||
| You're damn right you're gonna have to get lawyers. | ||
| You're damn right you're gonna have to get lawyers. | ||
| You guys are gonna be investigated and you're gonna be crushed because you're a bunch of criminals and you use state power. | ||
| To try to destroy the populist movement and you failed. | ||
| You didn't destroy Trump and you certainly didn't destroy us. | ||
| You gave us your best shot. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| It wasn't good enough. | ||
| And now we're coming for you. | ||
| Today, look at them scramble. | ||
| Look at these rats leaving the ship. | ||
| Run everywhere you want. | ||
| You better be damn sure the United States does not have an extradition treaty because we're going to extradite you guys back here to stand trial and then go to prison. | ||
| And I can tell you, coming out of Danbury, prison's not going to be that good for you guys. | ||
| Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. | ||
| Not going to be good for you, Jack Smith. | ||
| Not going to be good for you, Damian Williams, FBI. I want to play... | ||
| But this is MSNBC at its height. | ||
| The genius Katie Turr. | ||
| Is the Katie Turr piece cut from that for us? | ||
| Just play that little clip of Katie Turr. | ||
| I want you to play this, and I'm going to go back in history and tell you who makes this argument. | ||
| Let's go ahead and play it. | ||
| Tom, if I were Jack Smith today, I'd be a little bit nervous. | ||
| If I was anybody on his prosecutorial team, I'd be nervous as well, especially if I was one of those career employees who was assigned to the job and was just doing as I was assigned. | ||
| I was investigating, as I was told, following the law and following the crumbs that Donald Trump left where they may. | ||
| You know who made that argument? | ||
| Field Marshal Hermann Goring actually made a very coherent argument of the individuals in the German government in the Nazi regime. | ||
| They said, hey, look, what are you talking about crimes against humanity? | ||
| This was German law, and we were just following German law at the time. | ||
| We didn't do anything wrong. | ||
| We obeyed the law. | ||
| We were just civil servants just doing our job. | ||
| To initiate the war that killed, I don't know, a couple hundred million people, and to eradicate the Jewish population. | ||
| They tried to eradicate, I guess, the gay population. | ||
| They tried to eradicate many priests. | ||
| They said we're just doing it. | ||
| Katie Turr, almost word for word, That's how the SS and the Nazis try to get off the hook at the Nuremberg trial. | ||
| Wasn't good enough then, and ain't gonna be good enough now. | ||
| Sorry, just doing your job. | ||
| We need to see FBI and DOJ come forward before the 20th of January. | ||
| You need to come out with your hands up and tell us. | ||
| We need you guys to roll. | ||
| And Brian Kilmeade, if they're not rolling and not talking and not chirping, then they're part of the problem. | ||
| Julie Kelly, you have courageously followed this From early 2021, it is a massive victory today for you, ma'am. | ||
| We could not have done this without you. | ||
| Tell me, what does it feel like today? | ||
| What are your initial thoughts about this epic day where President Trump finally crushes the criminals that came after him and DOJ and the FBI, ma'am? | ||
| You know, Steve, I just published Judge Tanya Chutkin's order. | ||
| Officially dismissing the January 6th case. | ||
| And like I do with all these motions, I'm saving it on my laptop, and I'm actually writing out Judge Chetkin's order dismissing J6 case. | ||
| And it's a surreal moment. | ||
| I'm not going to lie. | ||
| I mean, this was something that everyone was convinced would go to trial before this election that would result in Donald Trump going to jail at some point. | ||
| They did everything in their power to try to rush this case to trial, including Judge Chetkin setting that unprecedented, untenable, which it was, seven-month schedule between this historic criminal indictment and trial in Washington, D.C. | ||
| So I have to say, it's pretty surreal thinking of all the times, well, when I sat in that courtroom, the three separate hearings and going over all the motions and all the machinations here. | ||
| I'm so happy for the president, for his family. | ||
| I'm happy for the country. | ||
| But our work is just beginning, Steve, because there are going to be calls, and we know this, from weak Republicans in Washington saying, let's just move on. | ||
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We need to move on from genuine sex. | |
| We need to move on. | ||
| Screw them. | ||
| They didn't win this victory. | ||
| The populist movement, the war room posse, we won this victory. | ||
| President Trump's courage came back. | ||
| Screw the Republican Party. | ||
| Screw the donor class. | ||
| Screw the elites up there in Capitol Hill. | ||
| This is our victory. | ||
| Hey, and our victory is righteous. | ||
| Our cause is righteous. | ||
| And we must for the American Republic. | ||
| It's not about retribution. | ||
| This is about setting things right. | ||
| We can never allow this to happen again. | ||
| This was like Stalin's Russia. | ||
| This is what the Bolsheviks do. | ||
| We're going to do everything and it's going to be totally out transparent. | ||
| It's going to be out in the open. | ||
| We are going to bring justice to these criminals, and that's exactly... | ||
| Damien Williams, you're a criminal. | ||
| The deputy at SDNY, you're a criminal. | ||
| About 50 of the lawyers at SDNY, you're criminals. | ||
| The Justice Department, Jack Smith, Lisa Monaco, Merrick Garland, you are criminals. | ||
| You are criminals, and you're going to be brought to justice. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| We got Mike Davis, Julie Kelly that kicked things off. | ||
| The great James O'Keefe is on deck. | ||
| All in the War Room. | ||
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All in the War Room. | |
| Be your servant. | ||
| Till His will is done. | ||
| Could you be clear? | ||
| This is not unexpected. | ||
| What is unexpected is that Jack Smith is looking to dismiss these cases without prejudice, which, of course, leaves the possibility that they could be reopened at another point in time. | ||
| On one hand, Alicia, it could be totally meaningless. | ||
| One, to dismiss the cases without prejudice means that you're taking a flyer on whether or not they can be told or paused while Trump is in office. | ||
| And, of course, there's the other possibility that could render them meaningless, which is that he could just pardon himself. | ||
| But Jack Smith essentially saying today, I'm willing to take the possibility of a toll. | ||
| And if you want to pardon yourself, that's on you. | ||
| You have to do that. | ||
| I'm not going to let you off the hook that easily. | ||
| I'm not going to absolve you of that. | ||
| Let me have you. | ||
| Hey, screw Jack Smith. | ||
| He's not going to get a pardon. | ||
| Trump doesn't need a pardon because he's innocent. | ||
| Here's where I'd be looking for pardons is Jack Smith. | ||
| You wait. | ||
| You wait to Biden. | ||
| Biden's going to be dropping pardons all over those guys. | ||
| You watch them. | ||
| Mike Davis, how big a day was this, sir? | ||
| Well, it's a huge day, and it vindicates what we've been saying on this show, Steve, for over two years, that this was blatant lawfare and election interference by President Biden and these Democrat prosecutors like Jack Smith, Fannie Willis, Tish James, Alvin Bragg, Chris Mays. | ||
| They run this unprecedented lawfare and election interference, and they said all the election Doesn't matter. | ||
| We're doing this because we're pursuing the law. | ||
| So why are they dropping these cases right after the election if it wasn't about lawfare and election interference? | ||
| And what needs to happen? | ||
| These Democrat prosecutors and witnesses and operatives and even judges who engaged in this Whoa. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| A criminal probe under 18 U.S.C. Section 241, Conspiracy Against Rights. | ||
| Jack Smith is very familiar with this statute. | ||
| It's one of the charges he brought against President Trump in this bogus, his bogus January 6 case in D.C. for the non-crime of objecting to a presidential election, which is allowed by the Electoral Count Act of 1887 and the First Amendment. | ||
| This is very destructive, what they did. | ||
| They came after President Trump, his top aides like you, Steve Bannon, and Peter DeVarro, who went to prison, his supporters on January 6th who were politically persecuted. | ||
| His parents outraged by gender chaos in schools and the resulting rapes in bathrooms. | ||
| It is unacceptable what Joe Biden, Merrick Garland, Jack Smith, Lisa Monaco, Christian Clark, Tish James, Fannie Willis, Alvin Bragg, Matthew Colangelo, Chris Mays, all of these Democrat operatives engaged in a criminal conspiracy against rights. | ||
| And they must face severe consequences for this. | ||
| So it never happens again. | ||
| As they say, nobody is above the law. | ||
| If they've done nothing wrong, they shouldn't worry about anything. | ||
| And of course, a grand jury in Fort Pierce, Florida, can bring these charges. | ||
| And if a grand jury brings these charges, they're legitimate, right? | ||
| Yeah, according to the grand jury system, right? | ||
| Or at least they get you into the process. | ||
| Mike, hang on for a second. | ||
| It's 18. Can you give me that code again? | ||
| Jack Smith is very familiar with this. | ||
| It's 18 U.S.C. Section 241, Conspiracy Against Rights, a very serious federal civil rights felony, many years in prison. | ||
| That's when government officials conspire amongst themselves and And including private citizens like Andrew Weissman and Norm Eisen and others, when they conspire to violate the constitutional rights of Americans, you're violating 18 U.S.C. Section 241. And when you politicize And weaponize intel agencies and law enforcement to go after your political enemies for non-crimes. | ||
| That is the very definition of a violation of 18 U.S.C. Section 241. Again, nobody's above the law. | ||
| Lawyer up, guys. | ||
| Lawyer up, Andrew Weissman, the young producers at MSNBC. Call mommy and daddy tonight and ask them, hey, do I need to get the family lawyer involved in this? | ||
| Yes, you do. | ||
| Lawyer up, preserve your documents. | ||
| Julie Kelly! | ||
| Mike Davis went there. | ||
| Did he actually say judges? | ||
| You've sat in courtrooms for the last three or four years, ma'am. | ||
| He expands this conspiracy out to the judges. | ||
| Do you think he's on to something there, ma'am? | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| Especially in terms of all the January 6th prosecutions. | ||
| These judges allowing the bogus 1512C2 obstruction of an official proceeding statute to go forward in more than 300 cases, including Jack Smith's J6 indictment, sending people, more than 100 defendants, to jail. | ||
| On account that the Supreme Court determined on June 28th that the DOJ wrongfully applied in these cases, the judges were all in except for one, your judge, Carl Nichols. | ||
| Also, furthermore, yes, these judges denied every single change of venue motion filed by all of these defendants, refusing to move trials out of Washington, D.C., even as the January 6th Select Committee It's holding their televised performances and in some instances naming defendants who are on trial or about to go on trial and undergo jury selection in their cases. | ||
| So, of course, the judges are part of this conspiracy. | ||
| And as far as Jack Smith's J-6 indictment, Judge Chutkin is as well. | ||
| She was nothing more than a rubber stamp from the very beginning, as I said, fast-tracking this seven months between indictment and trial, denying, imposing a gag order on the president. | ||
| It stayed in place during the presidential campaign, allowing Jack Smith to file this laughable immunity brief. | ||
| Right before the election, as early voting was starting, so he could re-inject January 6th in the headlines. | ||
| I mean, the malfeasance by Judge Chudkin continues even to this day because she granted the motion to dismiss without prejudice. | ||
| Now, this is something that she could have had some judicial leeway in. | ||
| She herself, suggesting in her order, just filed A few minutes ago that this case could actually be revisited once Donald Trump leaves the White House. | ||
| That is a lie. | ||
| It cannot be. | ||
| And furthermore, even if Donald Trump had lost the election, Steve, this case would never have survived another immunity test by the Supreme Court. | ||
| It was a dead letter indictment, both because of the immunity ruling And the Fisher ruling 1512C2 that overturned how DOJ had applied that statute in this case as well. | ||
| So, there's nothing alive in this indictment. | ||
| So, for Jack Smith and Tanya Chuckton to suggest that today, And then you hear, you know, the mouth, you know, the legal experts, you know, huffing and puffing, that somehow, in their dreams, this case might somehow go to trial, you know, or be re-litigated starting in January 2029. It's ludicrous. | ||
| It's absurdity. | ||
| And this is another example of Judge Chudkin working hand in glove with the DOJ and Jack Smith. | ||
| They're not going to... | ||
| They're not going to give up. | ||
| And keep this, in a way, hanging over his head. | ||
| Yeah, it's not going to hang. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| They're hopeless. | ||
| Mike Davis. | ||
| Some historical perspective, sir, since you've been and probably done more hard laboring in the vineyards here to get Supreme Court, particularly Justice Gorsuch, who's so brilliant. | ||
| You clerked for him and then helped with Kavanaugh, Grassley, to get these things confirmed. | ||
| In the history of this country, including Watergate, Has there ever been a scandal of our judicial system at this scale where you talk about state court and state court judges, you talk about attorneys generals of states, you talk about local prosecutors in Fulton County and in Manhattan, some of the biggest metropolitan areas you have. | ||
| You talk about federal judges in D.C., which is supposed to be the first among equals of all the federal courts. | ||
| You've got the J-6 committee. | ||
| You have members of Congress. | ||
| I mean, the scale of this from Capitol Hill to To Phoenix, to Atlanta, to the heart of Manhattan, to the federal bench in Washington, D.C., which is supposed to be the premier federal bench. | ||
| Has this country ever seen a scandal at this scale about our legal and judicial system, sir? | ||
| No, and it started with Crossfire Hurricane. | ||
| Remember that. | ||
| Remember what happened there. | ||
| Hillary had her illegal home server as Secretary of State with our nation's most classified secrets. | ||
| She also had evidence of pay-for-play foreign bribery schemes. | ||
| The Clinton Foundation's taking tens of millions from these foreign shady actors. | ||
| The Secretary of State could be doing official acts in exchange for that. | ||
| She gets caught with the server. | ||
| She destroys the server with bleach bits. | ||
| She destroys the phones with hammers. | ||
| But guess what? | ||
| Our worst enemies, China and Russia, almost certainly hacked it. | ||
| They had a copy. | ||
| And Hillary was afraid this was going to come out before 2016. So she made up the Russian collusion hoax. | ||
| Perkins Coie, the law firm, made up the Steele dossier. | ||
| They went to the FISA court. | ||
| They spied on Trump as a candidate. | ||
| They spied on Trump as the president. | ||
| And they were trying to do this because if this damning information came out, they wanted to be able to say this was a campaign dirty trick, Trump colluding with the Russians. | ||
| You say, that's crazy. | ||
| How could you believe that? | ||
| They did the same thing with Hunter Biden's laptop in 2020. CIA worked with 51 former intel officials, said Hunter Biden's laptop of the Biden corruption had all the hallmarks of a Russian disinformation campaign. | ||
| De-platformed, censored the New York Post, America's oldest newspaper, through the 2020 election. | ||
| If the American people knew about this corruption, there's no chance Biden would have been in the White House for four years. | ||
| And then Trump declassified Crossfire Hurricane, They were going to release it. | ||
| The FBI, the intel agencies, ran to Mark Meadows, the chief of staff, and said, you can't do this. | ||
| It will reveal sources and methods. | ||
| It will violate the Privacy Act. | ||
| Mark Meadows, the day they left office in 2021, said, do your Privacy Act review. | ||
| Publicly released these declassified crossfire hurricane. | ||
| They didn't do that. | ||
| Instead, they did the Mar-a-Lago raid with another corrupt judge, Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart, who had recused from Trump's civil lawsuit against Hillary for crossfire hurricane six weeks prior, ordered the unprecedented raid on the office of former president for presidential records he's allowed to have. | ||
| Jack Smith indicts down in the Southern District of Florida. | ||
| He gets a From his perspective, a fair judge, Judge Eileen Cannon, they bring another indictment. | ||
| This is what this law fair is all about. | ||
| There must be consequences. | ||
| Hang on one second. | ||
| I'm going to ask you to stay. | ||
| St. Julie Kelly and Mike Davis join us on a historic day. | ||
| And I ain't even talking about the stock market at an all-time high because of President Trump and his Secretary of the Treasury. | ||
| All next here in the War Room. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bass. | |
| Boris Epstein is going to join us in a minute. | ||
| I want to go to St. Julie Kelly. | ||
| I just want people to put in this perspective. | ||
| When President Trump left the White House, they all stayed power. | ||
| They had the House against him, the Senate against him, Mitch McConnell dumping on him, all the Republican donors dumping on him. | ||
| You know what we had? | ||
| When they brought all the state power, just like the Nazis did, just like the Bolsheviks did, with the judges and the courts and the lawyers and the FBI, all of it, the American Gestapo, FBI. What did President Trump have? | ||
| What did the forces of light have? | ||
| We had a woman that's not a lawyer, that's Julie Kelly, going into courts and seeing this J6 stuff and saying, this is not right. | ||
| We had Mike Davis, one man who started group, Article 3. We had Boris Epstein, and Boris will tell you, couldn't even get lawyers, the big law firms, because the clients came to lawyers and said, you can't work with Trump and Bannon and that crowd. | ||
| They're insurrectionists. | ||
| They're bad guys. | ||
| The media tells us they're bad guys. | ||
| You couldn't get any of the big law firms. | ||
| None. | ||
| This was one of the greatest political victories in American history, this turnaround. | ||
| And what President Trump's legal team did is monumental. | ||
| With lack of resources, lack of personnel, against the entire legal apparatus in these corrupt judges. | ||
| Well, I'm glad that Mike Davis said, I want these judges to understand you're not going to hide behind your cloaks. | ||
| We're coming for you too. | ||
| You are corrupt. | ||
| What you allowed to happen in that D.C. courtroom and what you allowed to do to these J6 people and send these to prison, Benny Thompson, you're corrupt, Liz Cheney, you're corrupt, preserve your documents because we're coming after you. | ||
| You people are criminals. | ||
| And you put people that didn't have the money to defend themselves You put them in prison and you destroyed their lives and you tried to break them. | ||
| You got a 70-year-old gold star mother in a prison in Colorado right now. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| In a prison in Colorado. | ||
| Totally made up charges. | ||
| You people are revolting. | ||
| And Damon Williams and Jack Smith, you can quit and run. | ||
| Andrew Weissman, you can run wherever you're going to run. | ||
| The long arm of the law is going to track you down and you're going to be held accountable. | ||
| Julie Kelly, any closing thoughts? | ||
| I know you've got a lot you're working on, ma'am. | ||
| Steve, I just want to thank you for covering all my work from the very beginning. | ||
| I think there were two important things here. | ||
| Number one, unraveling the January 6th narrative, exposing it on the bed of lies that it depended on. | ||
| I want to give a shout-out to Darren Beatty, who I call my J6 husband, because we were one of a tiny handful of journalists on covering lie after lie, cover-up after cover-up, About January 6th. | ||
| And I think helping to unravel that helped the president because that was not as effective of a cudgel by the Democrats in this election campaign as they thought it would be. | ||
| And then for covering my work in both cases in Florida and in Washington and bringing these corrupt cases and dirty prosecutors Yes, Jack Smith, Jay Brett, David Harbaugh, Tom Windham, Molly Gaspin, | ||
| what they did in court and behind the scenes and, you know, covering, helping to bring my work, my coverage to the War Room Posse and letting people know how serious this lawfare was, is, and that it needed to end and that people, officials needed to be held accountable. | ||
| So again, this is just the beginning of our work. | ||
| We need to keep, you know, bringing out or demanding courage by Republicans in Washington who are not going to want to take up prosecuting the prosecutors and the investigators and even the judges. | ||
| But it has to happen. | ||
| This is not America. | ||
| Steve, I would walk out of those courtrooms in Washington and I would think my grandparents did not liberate The free world in World War II and help build this country so I could have these lowlife judges and prosecutors do what they were doing to American citizens in our nation's capital. | ||
| And they'd all feel this loss today. | ||
| And that's pretty gratifying. | ||
| But again, still a lot of hard work ahead. | ||
| Julie, social media, Substack, all of it. | ||
| Where do people go to track all your amazing content, ma'am? | ||
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| I'll have a piece up on my substack shortly, declassified with Julie Kelly. | ||
| I also have written a lot about both of these cases for Real Clear Investigations. | ||
| And, you know, I post a lot of breaking news. | ||
| We won't have much, but we will later on xJulie underscore Kelly, too. | ||
| And thank you again, Steve, and thank you again, Mike Davis, for your toughness and your courage as well, because we wouldn't be where we are now without the work of Mike Davis. | ||
| Julie, hang on for one second just before you go. | ||
| Julie's a perfect example. | ||
| She's not a lawyer. | ||
| This is just somebody that went to the court and every day recorded it and saw the injustice and saw how they were breaking families and just recorded it. | ||
| She's not a lawyer. | ||
| Any of you in this audience, by using your agency, she's the best example we have of somebody who used their agency and became a major player in this through something called hard work, grit, and determination. | ||
| Julie, you're a hero. | ||
| You're an American patriot and a hero. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Back at you, Steve. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Mike Davis, I want to talk about the judges again. | ||
| And this gets back, does it not, to the unitary theory of the executive. | ||
| The president is the CEO of the country in the Constitution. | ||
| He's the commander-in-chief of the armed forces. | ||
| But the Constitution, he was the chief magistrate and the chief law enforcement officer. | ||
| The founders of the nation wanted it all to come to one office and one person, right, so that you can keep track of it. | ||
| After Watergate, what happened in Watergate, inside the executive branch, they hoved it off, and the Justice Department became its own entity. | ||
| And people started talking about the Attorney General being the Chief Law Enforcement Officer, which is just not what the Constitution says. | ||
| Then you've seen this thing spinning out of control, administration after administration, and particularly, Republicans have not been blameless, but particularly with, like in the Clinton administration, the Obama administration, now the Biden administration, where you have We've embedded into the Justice Department these radical lawyers coming out of these radical law schools that are essentially Marxists. | ||
| They're Bolsheviks in there and they've tried to destroy the country. | ||
| But you cannot pass on the judges. | ||
| The reason this scandal is so massive... | ||
| That this cuts right to the bench. | ||
| It's just not about lawyers. | ||
| It's just not about DOJ. It's just not about the U.S. attorneys. | ||
| This goes right to the bench, and it goes to the bench in the premier federal court in the United States of America, and that is Washington, D.C., sir. | ||
| Yeah, these judges who were co-conspirators in this conspiracy against rights under 18 U.S.C. Section 241 for participation in this Blatant Democrat lawfare and election interference must also be investigated, right? | ||
| These judges are not above the law. | ||
| And when they take off their judicial robes and put on their partisan Democrat pom-poms and engage in this lawfare and election interference, they are culpable. | ||
| And we saw this with D.C. judge, former chief judge, Beryl Howell, when she eviscerated 250 years of constitutional executive privilege. | ||
| She eviscerated attorney-client privilege. | ||
| She was the one who ran the grand jury process on this lawfare. | ||
| We see this with D.C. Obama Judge Tanya Shukins, and Julie Kelly just laid this out, how she violated so many different norms. | ||
| She put illegal gag orders on a criminal defendant, which violates You see that she politicized and weaponized her courtroom. | ||
| She let Jack Smith put on a partisan case, highly unusual, unprecedented, partisan presentation right before the election. | ||
| It's just unbelievable what they've done. | ||
| They did this up with Judge Ingeron in New York, right, where he ran a partisan clown show, another unconstitutional gag order, clear violation Of President Trump's constitutional rights. | ||
| It happened with Judge Juan Mershon. | ||
| His daughter, his adult daughter, Mershon's adult daughter is raising money off of this case. | ||
| The Biden campaign and Kamala campaign were paying Lauren Mershon the daughter. | ||
| It required Mershon's recusal under New York statutes. | ||
| And how did Judge Mershon respond to the recusal motion? | ||
| He threatened to put Trump in jail. | ||
| If he mentioned this recusal issue with his daughter, again, it's happened in all of these different jurisdictions. | ||
| So it's not just the Democrat prosecutors and witnesses and other operatives. | ||
| It is also these judges who must be probed under 18 U.S.C. Section 241, Conspiracy Against Rights. | ||
| It's a very serious federal civil rights felony. | ||
| Mike, the scale of this, it goes from Colorado to Arizona, up to Michigan, to downtown Manhattan, to Georgia. | ||
| It centers around Washington, D.C., both Capitol Hill and primetime TV, night after night after night. | ||
| It goes to the federal bench there, which is the revered federal bench. | ||
| The scale of it goes to the U.S. It goes to Southern District of New York. | ||
| It goes to the main justice. | ||
| It goes to the criminal division. | ||
| Can this be handled, in your professional opinion, in anything but Attorney General Pam Bondi, once she's in the saddle, to sit there and designate a special counsel? | ||
| Do we need, and I know you're like me, you're not a big name, naming special counsels all the time, but it's something of this, such a scale, and you have to move with some quickness because you don't want to drag on for years and years and years, although it might, just the scale of it. | ||
| But do you want to just have one group that hires people and does this Full-time, sir? | ||
| Or do you handle this inside of Maine Justice? | ||
| I'm for all of the above. | ||
| There must be accountability. | ||
| It needs to be done through the Office of Professional Responsibility at Maine Justice. | ||
| It has to be done through the Office of Inspector General, through Maine Justice. | ||
| It has to be done through the criminal division of the Justice Department, the public integrity section, the U.S. attorney's offices in the Southern District of New York and D.C., the Southern District of Florida, the Northern District of Georgia, the District of Arizona. | ||
| This is a massive scandal. | ||
| This is the biggest scandal in American history where we have the law enforcement that you have. | ||
| You have the Obama White House politicizing and weaponizing intel agencies and law enforcement to make up Crossfire Hurricane. | ||
| It continued through the Biden White House, the Biden Justice Department, where they unleashed these bogus, unprecedented criminal prosecutions where they're coordinating with the Biden White House through Jonathan Suh, his deputy White House counsel, through Matthew Colangelo getting deployed to Bragg's office. his deputy White House counsel, through Matthew Colangelo getting deployed From Nathan Wade, billing his time to meet with the Biden White House, including the White House counsel, 16 hours, $250 an hour for two meetings, $4,000 for Fulton County taxpayers. | ||
| This is an obvious criminal conspiracy at the highest levels, working with all these Democrat prosecutors and witnesses and operatives, and yes, judges. | ||
| We left out Bruce Reinhart down in the Southern District of Florida, who had recused from Trump's civil lawsuit against Hillary on Crossfire Hurricane, Six weeks later, that recusal issue somehow goes away and he orders the unprecedented raid on the office of former president for presidential records he's allowed to have under the Presidential Records Act. | ||
| This is a massive scandal. | ||
| It needs to be fully investigated so this never happens again. | ||
| And the House and Senate's judiciary committees, appropriations committees, and oversight committees also need to aggressively probe this. | ||
| The biggest scandal in American judicial or political history right here. | ||
| And we're going to cover every second of it. | ||
| Mike Davis, Article 3 Project. | ||
| Where do people go to sign up? | ||
| Where do they go to get all the information about you on social media, sir? | ||
| Article3project.org. | ||
| Article3project.org. | ||
| We are going to have your backs for these prosecutors and witnesses and judges who bring accountability to this republic-ending lawfare. | ||
| Article3project.org. | ||
| You can donate, follow us on social media, and take action. | ||
| And thank you, Steve. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to try to get, by phone, the architect of President Trump's historic defense. | ||
| An individual who faced the longest of long odds four years ago, Boris Epstein. | ||
| Remember, Boris was on the tarmac when President Trump left to go back to Mar-a-Lago and the legal difficulties with him started shortly thereafter. | ||
| The architect of his historic defense, Boris Epstein, will join us after a short commercial break. | ||
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Bring it on and I will fight to the end Just watch and see It's all started Everything's begun And you are over Cause we're taking down the CCP Spread the word all through Hong Kong We rejoice when there's no more. | |
| Let's take down the CCP! Here's your host, Stephen K. Van. | ||
| An absolutely historic day in the United States of America, and folks, this is your victory. | ||
| You had President Trump's back from the very beginning, and it would have been so easy to surrender, so easy. | ||
| Look at them. | ||
| They're all leaving the country and running away. | ||
| Did you leave the country? | ||
| Did any people that fought this leave the country? | ||
| Did President Trump leave the country? | ||
| No. | ||
| He turned around and said, no, I'm going to fight this, and I'm going to come back and win the presidency for the third time. | ||
| The architect of this, and a guy we've been through a few dark days with, Boris Epstein joins us now. | ||
| Boris, you were the guy on the tarmac when Air Force One took President Trump back to Mar-a-Lago on the 20th of January of 2021. The odds looked long then and looked longer after the entire prosecutorial, investigative and judicial apparatus of the United States government and state governments came after him. | ||
| You're the architect. | ||
| Tell me what this day means to you, sir. | ||
| Steve, honored to be with you, honored to be with the Posse, and it is such an honor to have been a small part of the team working for President Trump and helping coordinate the genius attorneys. | ||
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Who fought at every single stop. | |
| They fought at every turn to prevent during Jack Smith, the weaponized Justice Department, the state cases to prevent them from stopping history. | ||
| History being President Donald J. Trump being elected and coming back into the White House so he can make America great again. | ||
| That's been achieved. | ||
| It's a huge day for America. | ||
| It's a huge achievement for President Trump, MAGA, and vitally the American people. | ||
| Look at the tens of millions of dollars Look at all of the heartache caused by the man. | ||
| President Trump stood strong. | ||
| The American people stood strong. | ||
| We elected him in a sweeping mandate. | ||
| And here we are, on the eve of President Trump, walking back into the Oval Office on Jan 20, 2025. Of course, what people don't understand is the... | ||
| With no resources, outgunned with no resources, no access. | ||
| So many big law firms wouldn't take the president on because of the pressure of the progressive left in the media to chase their clients away. | ||
| And people don't understand, not just the hard work. | ||
| Folks, there were thousands of decisions, and all these different cases, and all these different venues, from civil to all, you know, they're coming at him from everywhere, from Arizona to Colorado, Michigan, Manhattan, federal courts, civil lawsuits, thousands of decisions. | ||
| And you and the legal team giving advice to President Trump and him making the ultimate decision, guess what? | ||
| You won out everywhere. | ||
| That's what's so absolutely stunning about this. | ||
| Tell us about that. | ||
| Tell us about being in the moment, those decisions, the long nights, the tough calls. | ||
| What was it like? | ||
| See, here's the thing. | ||
| When you are working for such a visionary, for somebody who is as strong and determined and forward-looking as President Trump, It feels like second nature. | ||
| There was never any concern. | ||
| There was never any fretting. | ||
| We knew that in the end, President Trump, the American people, the rule of law would win out. | ||
| And that's exactly what happened. | ||
| between the huge wins on immunity by John Fallon, Will Sharp, the legal team there. | ||
| They're absolutely full of strength battle in New York by Todd Blanch, Emil Bobe and others. | ||
| John Laurel, Greg Singer in D.C., Steve Sadow in Georgia. | ||
| These are absolute and total killers, absolute and total patriots. | ||
| And under the leadership of President Trump, they stood strong, they fought, and that's how we got here. - You know, Boris, this is not about retribution. | ||
| It can't be. | ||
| Everything that goes forward has to be transparent. | ||
| But we can never allow, if we have any work to do, it's to make sure this is never allowed to happen again. | ||
| Am I correct in that, sir? | ||
| Steve, you're a thousandth or you couldn't be more correct. | ||
| Our full and total focus has to be now rooting out the rot, making sure weaponization is over. | ||
| There's no more lawfare. | ||
| Our country has to go back and function as a nation of laws and where laws are not used and misused and abused to go after political opponents. | ||
| Now, it's about government. | ||
| It's about governing. | ||
| It's about ending the absolute free-for-all at the southern border. | ||
| It's about stopping violent crime, making sure our adversaries and allies alike are respecting America, and that's exactly what's going to happen under President Donald J. Trump. | ||
| Boris, you're coming in hot. | ||
| Where do people go for your social media, sir? | ||
| Steve, I'm going to be with you. | ||
| Huge day for America. | ||
| Huge day for the War Room Posse. | ||
| And yes, Steve, those were some long days. | ||
| And I remember when we filled a lot of hours on the War Room in 2021, and now it's the hottest place out. | ||
| Huge credit to you and your strength and you being a champion and a warrior through everything you've been doing. | ||
| And you're an unbelievable leader in the movement. | ||
| It's a pleasure and honor to be here on this big day for America. | ||
| My information, hot on Twitter at BorisDP, hot on Twitter at BorisDP, hot on Twitter social at Boris, the hottest on the gram, Boris underscore Epstein. | ||
| Stay strong, God bless, and all offense. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| By the way, President Trump has moral courage and physical courage, but moral courage to do this. | ||
| And this audience, this audience backed it up from the very beginning. | ||
| That's why we had this Victory Day. | ||
| It's you. | ||
| It's your agency. | ||
| I want to play, before we go to break for the six, I want to play Katie Turr. | ||
| Let's play this clip right here of the genius over at MSNBC. Tom, if I were Jack Smith today, I'd be a little bit nervous. | ||
| If I was anybody on his prosecutorial team, I'd be nervous as well, especially if I was one of those career employees who was assigned to the job and was just doing as I was assigned. | ||
| I was investigating, as I was told, following the law and following the crumbs that Donald Trump left where they may. | ||
| Okay, that's not good enough. | ||
| That's the same excuse, ma'am, that Field Marshal Hermann Goring used at Nuremberg. | ||
| That's exactly his line of thought, that, hey, according to German law, this is all okay. | ||
| We were just following the law. | ||
| No. | ||
| Sorry, not sorry. | ||
| Won't wash. | ||
| Didn't wash in 1945 and 46. Ain't gonna wash now. | ||
| So we're gonna take a short commercial break. | ||
| I'm going to bring in, at the top of the hour, another hero who they tried to bankrupt, who they tried to put in jail, who they tried to crush, Mike Lindell. | ||
| Think about this. | ||
| Tina Peters is rotting in prison today as we speak. | ||
| J6 grandmothers and grandfathers, J6 prisoners that rotted in that crappy black hole of Calcutta, D.C. jail are in federal prisons today. | ||
| Folks, we're going to fight this one all the way down to the bitter end. | ||
| This can never be allowed to happen again in American history. | ||
| This is a blight. | ||
| It's a blight. | ||
| And the American people have rendered their verdict. | ||
| The American people say, we reject what Merrick Garland stands for. | ||
| We reject what Jack Smith stands for. | ||
| We reject what Rachel Maddow stands for. | ||
| We reject what this corrupt group of Marxist Bolshevik radicals stand for. | ||
| We want America back. | ||
| And guess what, folks? | ||
| Donald J. Trump is going to deliver that. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
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