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Nov. 22, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
Here's one time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, Friday 22, November, Year of the Lord 2024. Later, we're going to get to...
Bolsonaro's been indicted for a coup and all of his guys.
They're basically rolling the same play.
Lula...
And the globalist down there, of course, he's tied in with the Chinese Communist Party, and you saw that he was rubbing up on Xi down in Chile or Peru, where they had the APEC. And he comes back, and it's funny how that works.
He comes back from that meeting having rubbed up on Xi.
Next thing you know, Bolsonaro has now been indicted.
We're going to have some people from Brazil, I think, in the 5 or 6 o'clock hour.
We're trying to line it up right now.
Huge news with Naomi Wolf, the whole Pfizer situation, COVID, tons going on there.
She'll be on later today also.
Natalie's going to join us momentarily with Eisen.
Charlie Gasparino, so on this Treasury situation...
And the Mark Rowan guy is a good guy.
But they're now pushing people.
And I tell you, the left-wing Democrats are all over President Trump and the team down there nonstop on this situation.
Because Treasury is absolutely central to the Trump, I would say, maybe the most central, even maybe more than the AG. For actually implementing President Trump's program of economic revitalization of this republic, which is obviously central and the reason so many people came to our cause and supported President Trump.
But Rowan now, they're pushing him.
He built Apollo's worth $100 billion.
Hey, look, this is the problem.
Apollo's one of the Wall Street oligarch predators.
The predatory capitalism that ripped these companies up.
Yeah, they've rejuvenated.
They put the money in, but they shipped all the jobs over to China.
They always want lowest cost manufacturing because of labor.
This is my point.
I don't know if we can have...
I don't know if it makes sense for President Trump's program, right?
His program, if you have...
A guy like Rowan that represents Apollo, what are we doing here?
Why don't we just put Larry Fink, and let's get Larry Fink, and let's get Leon Black.
Why don't we just put them all in?
Let's just do it.
Gonna do it, just do it.
So, I don't know.
President Trump's mulling everything over.
This is why he hasn't made any decisions yet, or hasn't made any picks yet.
And everybody's waiting on that, but I don't understand the logic.
And you can see what they're doing right now with Fox non-stop.
They're trying to tamp down.
I mean, you can see, this is where I had Carly on.
She noticed it.
Because she monitors Fox non-stop, and she could tell they were getting jiggy on gates.
And let's be blunt.
You know, Darren Beattie brings this up over at Revolver.
That there's not as much edge on the transition this morning.
As it was on, was it Wednesday morning or Thursday morning before Gates punched out?
Gates has an edge to him.
Gates has a house style that's attack, attack, attack, and drive the narrative.
You don't have that right now.
Just don't.
We're going to have to reboot that.
Got to.
Get some other great nominees, but, you know, Gates was the tip of the spear.
In making sure that we keep great nominees that President Trump wants, Jeff Clark, you've done an extraordinary job of, and already there's a tweet out.
I think it's Tim Chapman.
And Tim's a good guy.
He ran Heritage Action for a long time.
When Heritage was trying to reboot themselves and get a little more activist and get a little more Trumpy, They set up Heritage Jackson kind of off the Tea Party, and Tim ran that, but now he's working for Judas Pence, which is never a career-enhancing move.
But he's working for Judas Pence.
He's got a tweet out, Jeff, kind of about our project here on recess appointments.
So I want you to, I don't know if the 38-pager, you had the 8-page summary, the pricey, now you've got a much more in-depth one I think we're putting out.
But walk people through what you're talking about, what you've come up with, and why is this so controversial, sir?
jeffrey clark
Sure, Steve.
So, look, first I also want to thank my co-author here, a young lawyer named Tony Licata, who is my secret weapon.
He knows more classical law, and that is going back to, you know, ancient Rome and Greece and, you know, these great books by Justinian on the law and up through the European tradition until we come to the era of the English common law and the English common law than many lawyers who've been I've been practicing for 50, 60 years, so he's my secret weapon.
We've worked on this paper.
It will issue very soon.
They're working on formatting it for the web, and it's actually grown, Steve, to about over 40 pages because we found very new important research about Results about the recess appointment power.
And in particular, we found that there are the analog of the presidential adjournment clause in the U.S. Constitution in various state constitutions that existed at the same time.
And those clauses have been, in some instances, litigated.
And when there are disagreements between the House, it has the same basic structure and the Senate in the state, then the The governor can decide whether to send them into recess, sometimes with time caps, other times without time caps.
What happens when the governor in these gubernatorial adjournment clauses says that there's a disagreement between the houses and he sends them into recess?
The courts stay out of it, and the courts say that the governor is the last word.
Just as that is true, and we established that as a historical matter in this paper, The president has that power under the U.S. Constitution, Steve.
So why is this so controversial?
steve bannon
It's because— Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Hang on.
Slow down.
Take a deep breath.
Because this is not—I'm not a constitutional lawyer.
And I don't know this like Levin and these other guys do who know it backwards and forwards.
When you say that, can you cite me where in the Constitution you're getting this, that he has this power?
jeffrey clark
He has this power in Article 2, Section 3, and it provides that in a case of disagreement about adjournment, the president shall decide whether to send them into that adjournment for as long as he sees fit.
And the only cap on that is that there's a separate constitutional requirement That Congress meet at least once a year starting in January.
So the president doesn't have the power to do what the English king could do.
He could suspend parliament entirely.
The framers gave him a more limited power, but they gave him a power when the two houses disagree about going into adjournment to send the two houses into disagreement.
And he is the judge of whether there's a disagreement or not.
And once there is a recess, whether it happens because the president uses that power or whether it happens because the two houses agree to go into adjournment, the president has recess appointment power under Article 2, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution, Steve.
steve bannon
So there's an article.
I think I'd give it to the team.
Maybe you can put it up if you can find it.
There's an article already.
I think it might be from Axios.
They did a really good job this morning.
Johnson's jammed up on this.
Because there's already some members.
It looks like Johnson may have agreed with President Trump on this, and this is why there's no heat on removal of Johnson.
But there's members of the House that said they will fight this.
Am I correct in that?
Because the House would be the leverage point, right?
The House would go into recess and President Trump would then use that and leverage the Senate and put them in recess also.
unidentified
Is that the way that this would work?
jeffrey clark
Yes, it has to involve the House going into recess.
The President doesn't have the power If both of the houses want to stay in session to send them into recess.
And I should be very clear about that.
You know, it's triggered by a disagreement between the houses.
And then the framers set the president up in Section 3 of Article 2 as the tiebreaker on that issue.
steve bannon
But hang on.
But I just want to make sure we clear this up.
The House would actually want to go into recess for at least 10 days, correct?
That would be the initiator of the action.
The President would then take the side of the House and force, he would be the tiebreaker, he could essentially force the Senate into a 10-day recess.
Keep it simple.
Treat me like a golden retriever here.
Or a small child, as they said in the movie Margin Call.
So the House would do it.
And that's what Axios is saying.
Don't think this is so simple because already you have members of the House and we have a one or two seat majority, three seat majority, that Johnson doesn't have the bandwidth that he thinks he may have because there's still never Trump forces in the House.
Is that correct?
jeffrey clark
Yes, there are never Trump forces.
There are Democrats.
We know that they will hate this.
But the Speaker of the House has a lot of latitude in the agenda of the House and how that works, Steve.
And so we think he has that power.
And we think, from what we've seen reported in the press, that Johnson thinks he has that power as well.
And that's why they've been going into meltdown.
That's why they've been having You know, the Ed Waylands of the world coming out and saying that this is an idea that can happen.
And the logic for it, I mean, it's truly the most formalistic stuff I've ever seen.
Ed says that there's not a disagreement between the houses about going into recess.
If the House wants to go into recess, but the Senate doesn't say whether it wants to go into recess, it just stays in session.
I mean, you know, that's obviously a dispute between the two houses of Congress.
steve bannon
So right now, just for the audience, because this is a tool in the toolbox that could be a massive tool, a sledgehammer.
I just want to reiterate, right now the blowback you're getting is not even from the left.
The Jamie Raskins of the world have not jumped in here yet, correct?
Right now you're getting it from establishment Republicans, sir?
jeffrey clark
Yes, we're getting it from establishment Republicans.
You mentioned the Mike Pence think tank.
With Chapman and then there's Ed Whalen at the epic think tank, another conservative think tank.
steve bannon
And why did they, they're both Chapman over at Pence's shop and Whalen are specifically saying you're wrong for what reason?
jeffrey clark
So I have not seen what Chapman's logic is.
He's just using a lot of invective.
But Ed Whalen is at least launching arguments, and he's been putting those out both on X and on the National Review or National Review Online.
And, you know, one argument is that the text of the Constitution talks about the time of adjournment.
I've seen some I suggest that unless there's a disagreement about the exact duration of the recess as opposed to whether to go into recess or not, that would somehow turn the clause off.
I don't think that makes any sense.
And then the other argument is the one that I sketched for you, Steve, that if the Senate simply says they want to stay in session, there's no power for the House to disagree with that, that therefore there's not a disagreement.
And I would, you know, I described this to you before in a prior appearance, but if there are two people, one who wants to do one activity and the other one who wants to do a different one, then they have a disagreement.
And in this instance, if the House wants to go into recess, there's a disagreement that relates to going into recess.
steve bannon
Jeff Clark, thank you very much.
Where do people get you at CRA? Where do they get you on social media?
jeffrey clark
Sure.
So we are at AmericaRenewing.com, and that's where the piece will go up once it is formatted.
And I am at JeffClarkUS on X and Getter, and at RealJeffClark on Truth Social, Steve.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate you.
jeffrey clark
Thank you.
steve bannon
Wow.
A deal was cut, I think, on the judges.
We're going to get all the details on that.
A lot going on today.
A source contacted me at the end of the 10 o'clock hour and wanted to reaffirm and appreciated this contact close to President Trump.
Appreciated what we did and making sure all the information was out about Mike Rogers and particularly that hit that he did today on Fox.
When Fox and Kilmeade and all that were pushing him so hard that Rogers is now officially out of the running for director of FBI. Cash is not there yet, but Rogers is out.
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Natalie Winters on the other side.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Wow.
Blockbuster News out in New York.
My favorite, Judge Mershon.
He keeps the criminal case alive, but it's all been kind of shut down, the sentencing.
From Stephen Chung, the great comms director over with President Trump and one of our guys for years here.
In a decisive win for President Trump, the hoax Manhattan case is now fully stayed and sentencing is adjourned.
President Trump won a landslide victory as the American people have issued a mandate to return him to office and dispose of all remnants of the witch hunt cases.
All of the sham lawfare attacks against President Trump are now destroyed and we are focused on making America great again.
End quote from Stephen Chung, comms director.
For the transition and the White House.
Our own Stephen Chung, one of the greats.
So, Natalie Winters.
I want to talk.
Norm Eisen's tweet is out first.
Start with this.
Their lawfare.
And Norm Eisen's in the mumble tank this morning.
A blockbuster ruling out of New York.
And then I want to talk about the rest of the resistance.
Ma'am.
natalie winters
Yeah, I mean, I couldn't think of a better segue into everything that we're going to get into, right?
Obviously, this is a temporary victory for the Trump team, but you can already see Norm Eisen and the Lawfare Brigade saying, well, this is just a temporary halt.
And you've already sort of seen the refrain on MSNBC become, well, for these four years, we can pause the prosecutions against President Donald J. Trump.
But once he's out of office, we're just going to resume and we're going to pick I think it's worth noting just real quick off of the discussion you were having with Jeff Clark.
If you want to get signal not noise.
Jamie Raskin is now jockeying to lead the Judiciary Committee.
He was previously heading oversight coming for the one and only Jerry Nadler to try to take over.
It was announced via Axios yesterday.
So I think you can really see that the lawfare strategy is not going to go away.
They're just doubling down so we can celebrate these temporary victories.
But they're just that.
They're temporary.
And to that point, I'm sure Norm Eisen is probably hit a little bit hard by the news coming out of New York today.
But there's an interesting story that I think sort of confirms really what we've been hammering home on this show.
And this takes us out to the great state of Arizona.
The Daily Signal is able to obtain exclusive documents if Denver wants to toss it up on screen.
Not that one.
It's going to be the PDF. But it basically shows that Norm Eisen, who leads this group States United Democracy Center, it's part of sort of the left-wing election integrity apparatus.
They are always hurling the insults of, you know, we're anti-democracy, we're autocrats, Norm Eisen, of course, being a key figure here.
A color revolution extraordinaire who's practiced these sort of regime change optics and antics overseas now, of course, bringing, like they always do, those tactics here at home.
But this document, it's a 43-page memo that Norm Eisen's group circulated to the Arizona Attorney General Chris Mays about a year before that AG office eventually brought indictments to, what, 18 alternate electors and just Trump supporters 18 alternate electors and just Trump supporters more broadly, outlining with painful detail how exactly they thought that this prosecution should materialize both, A, encouraging the office to just pursue the case at face value, but more importantly, if you look at the
encouraging the office to just pursue the case at face value, but more importantly, if you look at the symmetry between what they were suggesting, not just This organization was also tweeting about how the AG was looking in to all of these individuals and potentially pursuing criminal indictments months before anything was made public.
So when you talk about this sort of lawfare collusion, I think this is a perfect example.
But Steve, I think this also dovetails quite nicely and almost concerningly with what we're seeing go on, particularly when it comes to establishment Republican opposition, because so many of the board members, in addition to color revolution extraordinaire Norm Eisen, of this group that was encouraging the Arizona in addition to color revolution extraordinaire Norm Eisen, of this group that was encouraging the Arizona AG to go after Trump supporters, people like Kelly Michael Steele, former RNC chair, was intimately involved in this effort.
So when you see the resistance coming from both wings of both the establishment wing of the Republican Party and Democrats, I think this story is another perfect example.
And to sort of use this to now backtrack into giving you an update on the status of the resistance, if Denver wants to toss it up on screen, There's an interesting press release coming out showing, I'll read the, it's 280 organization coalition launches multi-million dollar legal effort to combat threats to people, democracy expected in Trump fans' administration.
And you can guess who do they quote in the press release?
None other than Norm Eisen.
And they go through rattling off all the groups, whether it's the Brennan Center, American Atheists, right?
It's a whole slew of just awful, awful far left groups.
But it shows you, I think, what we've been talking about, that what you're seeing be hurled against all of President Trump's nominees right now.
It's not new.
Frankly, it's not rooted in truth.
It's just a continuation of this bogus lawfare.
Just two more points to bring up resistance updates, since apparently no one else in conservative media wants to focus on this.
They all just want to have premature victory parties.
The governors, the state's right sort of leg of the stool that is shaping up to be so imperative to the resistance.
We've We've got some new reporting on who's exactly funding the new Democratic Governors Group.
It runs through people who are linked to the Lincoln Project, Pierre Omidar.
But more interesting, GovAct is the sort of umbrella organization that oversees so much of this.
And one of their board members is none other than Sally Yates, of course, the former acting AG director.
From the first 10 days of the Trump administration, another cautionary tale of why we need to have the landing teams in there and delousing so much of these corrupt agencies.
And I think to wrap this all up for people who say, oh, Natalie, your hair's on fire over the resistance.
You're panicking.
You're freaking out.
You shouldn't be.
Well, the Communist Party USA just had their Resistance 2.0 meeting, and I was able to obtain transcripts from some of their November 16th committee speeches.
And of course, it's really actually fun to read.
It's riddled with a bunch of comments.
Comrade references.
But they talk about how they're openly collaborating with a lot of these key resistance groups like Indivisible and that they are very supportive and they're working burning down the phone lines to get all of these judges confirmed and that they're already setting up these sort of premature collective action networks because of course to help fight against the mass deportation.
So the New York Times may have their lead story on the resistance.
Denver wants to toss it up that get somebody else to do it.
Trump resistance encounters fatigue.
But I think it's pure Sun Tzu strategy where it's appearing weak when you're strong, because I think this resistance is pretty darn strong on both sides of the aisle.
steve bannon
I want to go back to how this is all.
In the way they...
The way they fight, because they're smart, tough people.
I mean, hey, you didn't build this administrative and deep state by being morons because it's been very effective for them.
You talk about it.
This fight we're having up on the hill with the Senate on the judges.
Is inextricably linked to their...
They look at a battlefield in political warfare, in information warfare, it's all inextricably linked.
And this is why ICE and these guys, and the part about Jamie Raskin is hugely important.
You're kind of having a revolt.
The one thing that happened on the 5th of December, one of the many things that happened, Pelosi thought she was going to break me by putting in a federal prison and take me off the battlefield, but it turned out Next man up, you guys did a magnificent job.
I was able to kind of give a little bit of guidance from Danbury, but you guys stepped up and it was just magnificent about one thing.
It wasn't about, there was no strategy decisions had to be made.
This is all about mass mobilization.
To get out the vote of low information voters, low propensity, low information voters, and also to fill out all the billets on the voter integrity side.
And that was done magnificently by this audience, right?
And it pulled it off.
Nancy Pelosi was broken on the 5th.
She came into that all powerful.
And she thought since she was the one that made the move on Biden, It got to Kamala Harris, but her screw-up was not having a mini-primary, just anointing Harris.
They thought, let's just jam it in.
We can beat Trump because we control the media.
We control the billionaires.
We control it all.
Her failure has led to a revolt on Capitol Hill on their side.
Now, they don't get the media coverage we get because, obviously, they want to see every time there's fighting, either in Trump world or between Trump world, MAGA movement, and the establishment, it's covered with 10 reporters at the Washington Post and New York Times.
They never really cover theirs.
But to your point, and it's the first time I've heard somebody bring it up, Jamie Raskin and these are making a move on some of the older guys around the committee that said, you guys are too old, right?
You're too set in your ways.
We need to be on offense constantly.
The resistance's major political operation will be on Capitol Hill in these committees in minority positions.
And you're about to see where we kept saying, hey, we're kind of hapless in the minority.
We should be much more powerful.
You're about to see the tools the minority has.
Because Rask and these guys are smart and tough.
Give me a minute on that before we go to break, Natalie.
natalie winters
Well, look, the Communist Party USA and their speeches about Resistance 2.0, they gave several shout outs to the MAGA grassroots, this audience.
We beat them at their own game of community organizing.
But to that point, I mean, I think look no further than what they've done to the border, what they've done to Ukraine, right?
When something is broken, when something is so destroyed beyond repair, You can rebuild it, right?
You can be unburdened by what has been.
That's a Marxist talking point.
And that's what they'll try to do with the Democratic Party.
They will get the civil war that they always wanted to rebuild the Democratic Party in the image of people who are actual fighters like Jamie Raskin, not these old blob, no pun intended, people like Jerry Nadler.
So they're going to have the fight that they've always wanted.
And you can see the mass mobilization from the grassroots side already bubbling up.
unidentified
Jerry Nadler doesn't know what's hitting.
steve bannon
We're asking of those guys.
unidentified
You might not be able to feel it in his defense.
steve bannon
You might not feel it.
The guys had the band surgery like five times or something.
Unbelievable.
unidentified
Okay.
steve bannon
We're going to stop being catty.
We're going to hang on, Natalie.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
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steve bannon
One of the things that's going to come up in the...
In the budget cuts, and by the way, Summerfore's got a great piece of about how, hey, President Trump's rest of his agenda could kind of be maybe off to the side while you deal with this financial firestorm that's going to hit.
This is what they're doing.
When I say the resistance, what Biden's doing, whether it's the southern border letting folks in...
Whether it's this fight on, and maybe it looks like a quasi-surrender on the judges.
They're talking about, well, we got four appellate court justices off, and I think gave them 12 or 13 of these others.
We'll get the details of this, because it's kind of murky.
And not a lot of Republicans are bragging about it.
But I believe they're gone.
They cut this deal to get out of here for two weeks.
This is the people you got fighting for you.
Also, the metastasizing war in Ukraine, which may be the most dangerous thing of all.
And now the International Criminal Court saying that Beebe's a war criminal and should be arrested in any country.
This thing is heating up that Semaphore's story says all this going on You heard this before, the debt ceiling, the budget that's got to be passed because the CR is going to be kicked into the Trump administration to do their own budget, and the tax cuts that I think revert on tax day, April 15th.
Hey, this is going to be a firestorm.
So you've got to get on top of it, and that's why these economic and treasury picks...
Are so important.
And the judges are important.
Because this is inextricably linked.
And this is how we present it.
And this is how we work on it.
And this is how the left does it.
Stay tuned to this Jamie Raskin thing.
There's some moves being made over on the Democratic side to get...
They think Nadler and these guys are just too old, too lazy, too incompetent.
And you're starting to get...
Their warriors are going to, like...
Move these guys aside.
And you're going to have the ranking member, ranking member, remember, is always the minority's senior person, are going to be aggressive.
And Raskin wants that post, not on oversight anymore.
He wants on a judiciary.
So he can get in.
Whoever takes you, if it's Jordan or whoever, he'll be in their grill nonstop.
Natalie Winters, continue on, on the resistance, because you're the one doing...
The reason, the rest of the conservative media, they don't want to do any work.
Everybody wants to be a pundit.
Got enough punditry, guys.
What we have is not enough workers.
We'd have enough people to pick and shovel.
That's the thing about Natalie.
You know, she could go around, she could get other jobs in other places, just do punditry.
She never does that.
She wants to come in with facts and actually news.
Ma'am.
natalie winters
I think it was the deep state that forced me to be a pundit for four months when they tossed you into prison.
I'm glad we get to return to tradition where I get to do actual reporting.
I know the New York Magazine piece said that we focus here in the war room on asymmetric warfare.
Of course, information warfare being A key component of that, I think we've really been focusing how post-2024 election, right, all these ideas that it's misinformation and disinformation and conspiracy theories that cost Kamala Harris, particularly among young men.
So I think it's quite interesting.
There's another story out today.
It's a report from Open the Books talking about how under Biden's administration, they spent over a A quarter of a billion dollars on studies, grants, research related to combating what they describe as the spread of misinformation.
It was a 44 fold increase from the entirety of the Trump administration, which accounts to about 3,700% uptick in money spent on misinformation studies.
Now, I would also add that the numbers probably even more because they only looked at studies that explicitly said misinformation, and you know that they sort of like to use euphemistic terms and they're not super direct.
And the information warfare landscape.
But I think this is very, very critical because it shows something that I think we've hammered on this show, which is the idea that misinformation is such an existential threat to democracy, to the world, you know, more broadly.
Misinformation was something, was a term that was never really around until President Trump won.
And if you look at the broader tracking of government grants to what they describe as combating misinformation, there wasn't a single grant really on the books until President Trump came around.
And I'm inclined to bring up one study in particular that we had, I think, two years ago in December, and it had to do with money coming from the National Science Foundation to do what they called pre-bunking populist messaging, particularly around the COVID-19 pandemic.
And this really gets to the heart of it, which I think there's a significant overlap with what you're seeing going on right now in Brazil, how they're using the same playbook.
But misinformation has always been a key and critical part that they've used to quash the populist movement and decry anything we say is incorrect.
I would just ask the New York Times that said that this show was the number one spreader of misinformation.
Because of what we said about, what, election fraud and COVID vaccines?
Well, how have the facts panned out since that piece?
I noticed, Steve, they didn't try to come back and run another hit piece on us the preceding year, saying that we were still the number one spreader of misinformation, because newsflash, we were right on everything.
But I think the cautionary tale of this story, and it's something that we've had Mike Benz and Darren Bedeon to really hammer home, is that they will double and triple down on the idea that it was misinformation and disinformation that cost them the election.
Ergo, they're going to double and triple down on the censorship efforts.
And how they're going to do that, they're going to do the strategy they've always done, where the United States can provide the capital through private funding ventures.
But it's going to be overseas globalist institutions like the Center for Countering Digital Hate, the Global Disinformation Index, the United Nations to usher in this new era of censorship.
Case in point, just two days ago, the United Nations announced that they have a new climate change disinformation agenda where they're going to be bringing all their member states together to push back and fund studies that are going to quash what they say are bogus narratives about climate change, pushing for, of course, the United Nations announced that they have a new climate change disinformation agenda where they're going Also, another case study, I think you're going to see a lot of these misinformation efforts start to come from the hotbeds of resistance, right?
It's going to be state and local officials.
To this point, out in Michigan, I believe Democrats in the state house just passed a bill that would fine Michigan residents for spreading what they say is election misinformation.
So you're going to see a reorientation of the censorship efforts because they no longer technically, at least du jour, control the apparatus of the State Department and USAID, though I do think the selection of Marco Rubio makes that a little bit more of a precarious fight.
But they're just going to reshuffle the board and how they come for us via censorship.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
Over at DHS and State, what's your recommendation, right, if you were on the transition team or in there, about making sure we gut this?
Because you're going to have to gut it, right?
And all those guys in those departments are going to play nicey-nicey with Rubio and Nome and these teams that are going in.
So you have to know this at the level of Ben's or yourself.
But what is your recommendation?
natalie winters
I would do just that.
I would gut it.
I would take all of the taxpayer funds that they have appropriated for censorship and create some sort of free speech first amendment commission where Americans have a hotline that they can call when they're censored and people actually go after and look into those reports while they're actively working with not in the clandestine behind closed doors secret way trying to de-platform and debank Americans but out in public working and pressuring these social media companies to uphold principles of free speech And I think you could probably trim most of the workforce.
You only need a few people doing that.
And I would use the outstanding resources and do what the American people elected President Trump to do and what the DHS is set up for.
And that's the damn mass deportations.
That's what I would do.
CISA, by the way, there's an interesting clip.
Maybe we'll play it, you know, come in a few days.
But the former, I believe, deputy director or lead at CISA for some level of infrastructure capacity building She's on tape saying that we realize that the cybersecurity and infrastructure components of the newly formed CISA agency in 2018, yeah, that was all a smoke show.
We never actually cared about that.
It was all about social media and policing disinformation.
And I truly think that that clip may be some of the most important speech or just talk that you've had about the origins of CISA. Since its inception, because that's the quiet part out loud, right?
That's the admission that they use as a Trojan horse, these lofty ideas, whether it's, you know, oh, we need to protect cybersecurity.
We need to protect infrastructure.
Yeah.
How many hacks have we seen lately going on?
I don't think they're doing all that good of a job, but they use that to Trojan horse in these huge lofty censorship efforts and they're going global too.
So I say defund CISA.
They don't do anything on the cybersecurity front.
And if they do, they're all incompetent.
So I would fire all of them.
Just look at the CrowdStrike hack we recently had.
But these people are there for one thing only.
They might be career civil servants, but what they're doing is purely political.
And it's censoring Americans, their fellow Americans, because they dare to criticize Joe Biden or COVID origins or election fraud.
steve bannon
And it's going to unless we defund it or take down the apparatus inside the administrative and deep state, it's going to continue on.
It's a cancer inside Trump's second term, correct?
natalie winters
You have to.
I mean, look, just in the same way that the Atlantic called for pandemic amnesty, that's what these people want because they know if they can get away with it, they'll do it again, right?
And they're going to keep trying to censor us.
They're going to keep trying to say that everything we say is disinformation and conspiracy theories.
You know why?
Because they get away with it.
And it's not just that they get away with it, Steve.
They see their budget continually balloon because House Republicans not just refuse to vote to take the CISA's director salary to zero, but they continually increase their budget every single year to censor their constituents.
So CISA, DHS, whatever you want to say, they're only more emboldened.
And keep in mind, the DHS is being targeted and harassed right now by all of these resistance type activists who want them not just to cancel any future contracts when it comes to building detention centers.
They want to empty the current detention centers that we already have.
And there's reporting out yesterday in the New York Post that the Biden is getting ready.
The Biden regime is already getting ready to let in massive waves of migrants.
They're actually building a new app in early December to help with ICE processing and jamming these people through the system.
So if they want to say it's retribution, stop victim blaming.
It's justice because they're trying to destroy the country.
steve bannon
Absolutely terrible.
Natalie, where do they go to find you and all the stuff you're putting up on Twitter?
natalie winters
Natalie G. Winters, Twitter, Getter, Instagram, Facebook, all the places.
Thank you, as always, for having me.
steve bannon
And where can people go to your clothing line?
natalie winters
It's shesowright.co.
Maybe we need to get a defund CISA shirt going on and you can use code 47 for 47% off because we love Black Friday.
steve bannon
Amazing.
Amazing.
Everybody's got their own side hustle.
I love it.
Natalie, thank you so much.
Great job.
Great job.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
I don't even know where to start.
great job a lot of fight going on I mean a lot of fight to five to seven nights also gonna be crazy I'm gonna be able to get into this Brazil situation also Naomi Wolf tons happening on the COVID side on exposing there remember they were trying to force Gates into not going after Fauci that was Think about it.
Your Republican senators, one of their top priorities was to make Gates commit that if we confirm you, the chit I want to trade off is no going after Fauci.
So think about that for a second.
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unidentified
Welcome back.
steve bannon
Catherine O'Neill joins us from Trump the first time.
Hopefully we can talk to her, but she's running a great company.
But the nation may need her.
But you're doing a great job at Meriwether Farms.
We've got Thanksgiving coming up, ma'am.
Tell us what you've got for the audience, for the Warren Posse.
catharine oneill gillihan
Hi, Steve.
Thanks so much for having me back on.
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steve bannon
So talk to us about it.
Why am I excited?
Why is this audience excited about the ground beef?
Not just the size, the 30-pound blowout.
But what's so special about your ground beef, ma'am?
catharine oneill gillihan
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So our facility here in Wyoming is USDA inspected.
It is the cleanest facility you've ever seen.
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steve bannon
So if people order now, walk me through the ordering process.
When do they get it?
How do they order?
Where do they go?
You've got tremendous information on your site.
I want people to see the wide range of products besides the 30 pounds of ground beef and the ground beef blowout.
catharine oneill gillihan
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So we bring this back, Steve, because ground beef you can use in so many different recipes and meals, and it's just great to have.
Like I've said this many times before on this show, I have at least 50 to 75 pounds of ground beef in my deep freezer at all times.
You know, my husband's 6'8", so I have to keep him fed very regularly.
But we offer a large variety of We offer a large variety of cuts, different boxes.
We have a new Christmas box out that would be a great gift for a loved one.
We offer all-natural hot dogs that don't have any preservatives in them.
We have an on-the-go beef stick, so we try to use every part of the animal And turn it into a product.
Down the road, we are going to be launching some other products such as tallow-based items and maybe some leather products.
We're not quite there yet, but we are a full-service USDA-sanctioned processing facility right here in Wyoming where we raise all really high-quality beef, high-quality genetics, no hormones, no antibiotics, So we can offer you guys the best and healthiest product on the market.
steve bannon
You guys love Yellowstone?
Yes.
This young lady's family donated it to the country.
Donated it to the country.
O'Neal, I love you, the family.
Your brother is a piece of work.
I love that guy.
Your dad is a very special guy.
He's a madman.
unidentified
Yes.
steve bannon
When Catherine's the most normal, she's crazy, the most normal of the O'Neals.
That is one fight in the family.
We love them.
catharine oneill gillihan
We love the country.
steve bannon
One more time.
Oh, it's great.
Great patriots.
Great patriots.
Where do folks go again one more time to go to Meriwether?
catharine oneill gillihan
Meriwetherfarms.com.
For the ground beef blowout, you'll see it.
No promo code needed.
Anything else, use code word MAHA. Make America healthy again, because that's what we're all about.
steve bannon
Love you.
Doing a great job.
Keep fighting, man.
catharine oneill gillihan
Thank you.
steve bannon
One of the tough fighters.
One of the tough fighters right there, Catherine O'Neill.
From the Fightin' O'Neills.
George Jr., George Sr. I think George Jr. staffed out half of our production team here.
That one time or another slept on his couch at the University of Florida.
Or thereabouts.
Just kidding.
Okay, let's go to...
We got Mike Lindell.
Mike?
I don't know, man.
The weekend's coming up.
We've been working 20 hours a day here at the Worm.
We're going to need to get...
Sell me a pillow.
Got that body pillow?
Talk to me about that body pillow.
mike lindell
I'll tell you what, we don't get any recall pillows here in Minnesota.
I said they're over 84 million sold.
But you guys, we got the robes on sale that I'm wearing.
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steve bannon
We get so much to be thankful for this Thanksgiving.
And a Trump boom on top of it all.
Mike Lindell.
Love you, brother.
We'll see you this afternoon.
You hang in there.
mike lindell
God bless you.
See you guys.
steve bannon
That's a guy that tried to bankrupt right there.
Rudy Giuliani.
All these warriors.
Charlie Kirk's gonna follow us a couple hours of intense populist nationalist news and information.
Post those after that.
We're back from 5 to 7 tonight.
We're going to continue on the fight in the transition to make sure that the programs and people and policies of President Trump and the Trump movement, MAGA, are implemented.
How's that sound?
Plus, we're going to have some global news, a lot going on around the world, particularly down in Brazil.
The good folks down there fighting that fight, the Bolsonaro's.
They're trying to throw them in prison, just like President Trump.
Big news out of New York.
I think that one got delayed or maybe even canceled because of the big sweeping victory that you guys helped President Trump with on the 5th of November.
Okay.
Charlie Kirk, Poso, we're back at 5. Make sure you tune in.
It's going to be on fire.
I commit that to you.
Billy Strings takes us out with a cover of Johnny Cash's Amazing from the Book of Revelations, St. John the Evangelist.
The man comes around.
unidentified
The man comes around.
The whirlwind is in the country.
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