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WarRoom Battleground EP 659: Lawfare Taking Place In Brazil
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steve bannon
This is what you're fighting for.
I mean, every day you're out there.
What they're doing is blowing people off.
If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians get total control and total power.
Because this is just like in Arizona.
This is just like in Georgia.
It's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations.
This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.
As we've told you, this is the fight.
unidentified
All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
War Room Battleground.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, Friday 22, November, Year of the Lord 2024. Thank you so much for sticking around for the second hour of our week.
Second hour today of the afternoon and evening coverage.
Wraps up the work week.
Of course, we're back tomorrow morning at 10. Man, oh man.
What days these are.
Incredible.
High class problems, but problems nonetheless.
But one that's really got me worried is down in Brazil with the great Bolsonaro.
Looks like indicted for...
On Bolsonaro as they ran on Trump, you can tell.
And this coincidentally happened right after Lula was down there rubbing up on Xi.
So at the APEC conference, Paulo Vigoro joins us, a journalist.
Can you explain to the audience exactly what is going on?
Because it's quite murky from the news coverage, sir.
unidentified
Thanks for having me, Steven.
Yeah, that's some white news, quite disturbing in Brazil.
What's going on now, it's that Bolsonaro and 36 other people, including myself, were indicted in a probe that has been investigated, supposedly a coup attempt, in late 2022, after Bolsonaro lost the election of 2022. The reports were that Bolsonaro was attempting to...
steve bannon
When you say lost, hang on, there was controversy with the people.
Isn't it still open whether that election was stolen or not, sir?
unidentified
Just like President Trump's 2020 election was stolen?
Yeah, that's why I used the quote-unquote.
People say they lost like the same way they said Donald Trump lost the election in the United States since...
Right now, I think no one actually believes that anymore.
No one in their right mind.
And same way in Brazil.
The person conducting the election, the president of the all-powerful Superior Electoral Court was Alexandre de Moraes.
He hates Bolsonaro.
He's the de facto dictator of Brazil.
He's running the country even more than Lula, but in partnership with Lula, I should say.
And so what they said is that they started an investigation saying that Bolsonaro was attempting, thinking about a coup d'etat.
Obviously, Bolsonaro claims he never even considered a coup d'etat and he tried constitutional remedies.
For the situation that we had ongoing in Brazil, the situation being Morais stealing the election.
So that's what happened.
Bolsonaro thought about a few alternatives that are in the Constitution.
He decided that there was nothing he could do.
But they say, well, this was an attempt of a coup d'etat.
And they also claimed that there was a plan to assassinate Morais and Lula and his running mate.
And that's what they claim right now.
So in order to substantiate the claims, they came up with a phony indictment of Bolsonaro and 36 other people.
Among these people are people like me, journalists that I was reporting on what was going on back then.
There's even a Catholic priest indicted right now.
Lawyers, several military leaders, the former chief of the Brazilian intelligence agency is indicted as well.
I mean, it's a big one.
And they did that 10 days after Donald Trump got elected and, as you correctly pointed out, with Xi Jinping in Brazil meeting with Lula at the same time.
steve bannon
No, but he took orders from his partner.
His partner of the Chinese Communist Party.
She had met and she told him, hey, unless you want to have a problem, because Trump just came back, unless you arrest this, unless you indict him, arrest him, try him and throw him in prison, Bolsonaro is coming back.
Am I incorrect on that, sir?
unidentified
No, you're absolutely correct.
And the fact that the United States Congress has been introducing bills that would create, like, canceling the visas of the Brazilian Supreme Court Justice.
This is clear.
The Judiciary Committee in the House is supposedly ready to be voted on the floor.
They're very afraid of that.
They have been Speaking about fears of having their U.S. visas canceled.
Also, there's a bill introduced by Jim Jordan that would cancel any cooperation between the U.S. law enforcement and the Brazilian government regarding censorship issues.
They're very afraid.
So what's going on now is that Donald Trump got elected.
They openly say they're afraid.
And they rush with this indictment and they're seeing how is the United States government, basically the conservatives and Donald Trump as well, is going to respond to that.
If they see that there's no response, they're going to push even harder and probably throw Bolsonaro in jail.
steve bannon
Okay, take a moment.
Let's rewind on that because this is the whole reason.
And you're one of the indicted folks of the 36. I want to hit that again and just go through methodically what needs to happen here with the kind of America First MAGA nationalist response that our allies in Bolsonaro's circle need.
So take me back through that.
unidentified
Well, right now what they need is the United States needs to show that it won't take this.
Well, the United States was always the exporter of freedom and democracy.
And in the past four years during the Biden administration, the US basically exported censorship.
Everything that's going on in Brazil was funded and idealized by the United States Department of State under Joe Biden.
So, in the past year, we started to see responses from the House of Representatives, the Republicans, that have been doing hearings about what was going on in Brazil.
They also presented bills, introduced bills regarding the situation in Brazil.
And that has been very successful in creating pressure.
So, right now, What Morais did, what the dictator of Brazil did with Lula and with support of the Chinese Communist Party was, well, let's try to not see in Brazil what we just saw in the United States.
And they're expecting and trying to see what the response of the United States Under Donald Trump will be.
So if the Republicans and the conservatives and the MAGA movement don't do anything, don't respond to that, they will probably say, well, the situation is not that bad.
The United States is not going to do anything, so let's put Bolsonaro in prison and get rid of this national populist movement.
steve bannon
Okay, so we can't have that because Bolsonaro is a hero.
And the leader in Latin America of this movement.
What do you need President Trump to come in with his team at State and sit there and go, we cut off trade?
I mean, what type of...
Because Lula and these guys play smash mouth.
They're partners with the CCP. She's in town when he does this because Lula wants to flex, wants to show a flex.
So what type and level and scale of countermeasures need to be done to basically get their attention down there?
unidentified
So I think the first step would be any sort of statement of Donald Trump himself.
And obviously the Republicans in the House and in Congress in general can also respond to that with statements and showing that they're paying attention and they understand how serious is the situation in Brazil.
That's the first step.
Second thing is there's already a request from several members of the Congress To the Department of State to cancel the visa of these people involved in human rights violations and due process violations in Brazil.
So, the Department of State can cancel these visas immediately on day one of the Trump administration by the discretion of the Secretary of State or the President of the United States.
They can do that.
The third step is if the situation keeps going on the same direction in Brazil, the president can also use the Magnitsky Law to seize assets of these people that violates the human rights in Brazil.
In the United States, like for example, the Chief Justice of the Brazilian Supreme Court is known for having a condo here, a luxury multi-million dollar condo here in Key Biscayne in the Miami area.
So that can be seized and other assets as well.
And then you'll be increasing and going after the individuals.
The worst-case scenario, you start applying sanctions to the country.
Of course, as a Brazilian, I wouldn't like to see that happen, and I hope it doesn't get to this, but you need to escalate the remedies.
And you need to do that before it's too late because these remedies only work until they completely consolidate their power.
Their power is not completely consolidated in Brazil as it is in Venezuela, for example.
Diplomatic remedies in Venezuela don't work anymore.
And if the United States government and the MAGA movement and the national populace in the United States don't act fast, They won't work in Brazil very, very soon.
Once they send Bolsonaro to prison, things will start being very, very different.
There are rumors that Donald Trump's going to invite Bolsonaro for the inauguration.
The problem is, Marais already took Bolsonaro's passport.
So in order to come to the inauguration, he would need authorization by this judge, by the dictator of Brazil, Marais.
And right now I would say the chances are 90% of Marais would not let Bolsonaro come to Trump's inauguration, which would be very serious and very sad.
steve bannon
I need to take a second.
We need you to take a second and explain.
It's a little different here in this country.
Why this Chief Justice and the courts are really actually worse than Lula and his government.
Remember, Lula was tossed out, thrown in prison for corruption, taking bribes.
He's also directly in business with the Chinese Communist Party, and they don't even make any bones about that.
But walk through this court system, I think what kind of makes it not difficult, kind of shocking to Americans...
I mean, this chief justice and the justices around him are like the Nazi judges in Germany in the 1930s.
Walk me through that.
The power he has and how the vitriol and hatred of the populist nationalist movement down in Brazil is second to none with this guy.
unidentified
That would sound weird for Brazilians as well, only five years ago.
But what happened was that immediately after Bolsonaro won the election in the United States, they opened the Russiagate fake probe.
In Brazil, what they did is that they opened immediately, immediately the next year after Bolsonaro got elected with support.
From the deep state of the United States, they opened a fake news probe in the Supreme Court to investigate any fake news that would attack democratic institutions.
I know that part might sound familiar to United States viewers.
So, they claimed powers to investigate anyone that was conservative.
That included journalists, influencers, and ultimately, any Bolsonaro's ally in Brazil.
And that has been going since 2019. Nonstop is a probe that's still ongoing.
And this indictment that's happening right now, its part is connected to that original probe that started in 2019. So the Supreme Court of Brazil supposedly do not, they don't have these powers.
But they claim that they do.
They based themselves on their internal bylaws of the courts that said, well, if a crime happens within the premises of the court, we can't investigate these crimes within the court.
So they said, well, if people are criticizing the Supreme Court on the internet, that means, well, it's happening within the premises of the court because the internet is everywhere.
So they came up with this phony excuse.
To run this probe.
And it's very weird because this guy Moraes, Alexander de Moraes, the guy that was having a beef with Elon Musk that looks like a James Bond villain, which is now the most powerful person in Brazil.
He's supposedly the victim and at the same time the investigator and the judge.
So he has all these roles.
And this is the guy that conducted the 2022 electoral process in Brazil.
The same person.
And that's the guy who rehabilitated Lula that was in prison and made him run again and win against Bolsonaro in a very questionable election.
So he's the one pulling the strings.
He's the one that brought Lula back to power.
So Lula is aligned with him, but Lula kind of works for him.
It's not the same Lula that we saw in 2003. And on.
It's a different Lula that is way less powerful than it was.
So right now, the Supreme Court decides everything in Brazil.
And I can tell you something, Steve.
I know it sounds weird for Americans, but let me tell you, if you had five liberal socialist justice on the US Supreme Court, I don't doubt that could happen in this country as well. I don't doubt that could happen in this country as What is going on in Brazil, they're trying, and this is when she was down there, what they're trying in Brazil is exactly what they did here in the United States.
steve bannon
And we have to, the populist nationalist movement and the Trump second term and the transition, we've got to get on this like immediately.
Bolsonaro is a good man.
He's an honest man.
There was no coup.
And they're not just trying to take out Bolsonaro, the 36 people around him.
35 guys around him, just like they try to do here in the United States.
Paulo, how do people, our audience wants to follow this, like, moment by moment.
Where do they go?
Your website, social media, all of it, so we can follow the good guys.
unidentified
Well, my, they can go to my Axe account.
It's at RioPFigurito.
It's my, the first letter of my first name and my last name.
Yeah, that's the one.
They can follow it there.
Also on my website, all the news about what's happening in Brazil are in English as well, so people can check it out there, what's going on.
So that's the thing.
steve bannon
There's no chance that the Biden regime will allow these guys to extradite you, will they?
unidentified
I don't think so.
I've been living in this country for over 10 years now, and all my family is American.
I'm thinking about if I'm going to become an American as well, but I've been legally living here for a long time.
I don't think it's possible to extradite.
What I wanted to say, Steve, is just that Brazil is in a crossroad right now, and the United States needs to think about that.
Brazil itself is 50% of South America.
50% of South America GDP, it's 50% of South America territory, and 50% of South America population.
China realizes that, and once Brazil is an ally, the United States needs to figure out if it's gonna let Brazil become a super powerful ally of China in the Southern Hemisphere, In the Western Hemisphere, in the Southern Hemisphere as well, or if it's gonna have a chance of Brazil having free elections again.
And I guarantee you, if Bolsonaro runs again under free elections, he will win, same as Donald Trump won.
And if that happens, we'll have, at the same time, Bolsonaro, Millet, and obviously Donald Trump, and a whole different world.
But the conservative movement, the MAGA movement needs to act fast before it's too late.
steve bannon
We're going to be on this, sir.
I'll talk to you after the show this evening or tomorrow.
We're on this now.
We're on watch.
Appreciate you.
And tell Bolsonaro and the team that we got their back.
unidentified
Thank you, sir.
steve bannon
Okay, folks.
They're trying to roll it up everywhere where they have power.
And this is she was there with Lula.
Boom.
Happens at the same time.
Naomi Wolf.
I'm going to go to Rome momentarily.
We've also got a new federal state of China.
What's happening in China, this bicycle movement, it's amazing.
But they're going to have some comments about Xi.
What I call Liebenstrom for China, right?
The Nazis had it in Eastern Europe and Russia.
That's where they went there and the Ukraine.
The Chinese think that Australia and Brazil is their Liebenstrom.
Trust me, they want those resources and they want the Amazon.
Naomi Wolf, your hard and tough efforts are starting to pay off.
Not only is Robert F. Kennedy going to be HHS, which will be amazing, but to make America healthy again, also hopefully at the USDA, Nicole Shanahan's working on that.
There's a new day dawning.
You're fighting a very tough fight in the trenches against the pharmaceutical industry complex.
Give us an update, man.
unidentified
Sure.
dr naomi wolf
Well, I mentioned this briefly the last time I spoke with you all on War Room.
But now I've got real details.
naomi wolf
And it's so exciting.
dr naomi wolf
I mean, for two years, as we've been revealing what's in the Pfizer documents with the help of the posse, of course, and you, people have rightly asked, when will there be accountability?
When will there be hearings?
When will Congress make a move on this?
And I didn't have good answers for them.
And now I do.
naomi wolf
So, Tuesday of this past week, a press release came out of Senator Ron Johnson's office.
dr naomi wolf
And the headline is, Senator Johnson demands HHS, FDA, CDC preserve all records relating to COVID-19 vaccines.
And goes on to say that he has written and the letter is on Daily Cloud.
It's pinned.
It's also in the press release.
He's written to HHS, FDA, CDC. It's so satisfying because Mandy Cohen got this letter, right?
To immediately preserve all records referring to or relating to the development, safety and efficacy of the COVID-19 vaccines.
During the Biden administration, he said these agencies have refused to provide complete and unredacted documents to Senator Johnson's numerous oversight letters, hindering congressional oversight and jeopardizing the public health.
In other words, our taxpayer-funded agencies, CDC, FDA, HHS, didn't give senators and members of Congress Transparency or the documents they requested during the Biden administration and there's a new sheriff in town.
Quote, in addition to hiding relevant information from Congress, this is Senator Johnson talking to Mandy Cohen among others.
Your agencies have applied heavy redactions to public documents released under Freedom of Information Act requests Who did that?
We did that.
That's Ed Berkovich, our lawyer, you guys' lawyer, the posse's lawyer.
Remember, he FOIA'ed documents related to the word myocarditis.
And you remember, I wrote the story here on War Room about six months ago, that we got, probably due to an internal whistleblower, a tranche of the most damning, unbelievable documents from this FOIA request, including A cover-up at the highest levels, including White House staffers.
Dr. Walensky was on the email, Dr. Fauci was on the email, and it resulted, as you recall, in a 17-page fully redacted script, totally redacted, that they all used to lie to America's parents.
And to claim that myocarditis was rare and mild and transient when they knew that that was a lie.
So he goes on to say these redactions have made many of these public documents hard to understand And in countless instances impossible to read, the senator wrote.
So he goes on to highlight several examples from the tranche that we FOIA'd.
And he knows that there are only a small fraction of communications internally on myocarditis and pericarditis that the health agencies continue to conceal.
And then he says the heavily redacted documents include a Pfizer report, that's us, on myocarditis and pericarditis.
CDC communications.
Again, Dr. Walensky is on the email contemplating whether to issue a health alert on myocarditis.
This is May of 2021. And Biden White House talking points sent to then CDC director Rochelle Walensky Then National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Director Anthony Fauci and then National Institutes of Health Director Francis Collins among others.
And Senator Johnson requested that HHS, FDA and CDC produce these documents without redactions by December 3rd, 2024. So right after you guys come back from Thanksgiving is their deadline to unredact these documents that show that they all Conspired to hide myocarditis and pericarditis in minors, in healthy young adults and teenagers from America.
And then he goes on to say, and this is my final quote, while your agencies have largely ignored or failed to fully cooperate with my oversight efforts, I can assure you that your obstruction will soon come to an end.
In the next congress when I become chairman of the permanent subcommittee on investigations.
Any attempt by your agencies to withhold documents will be met with a subpoena.
And he links the full text of his letter.
And there you can see it's going to- well your producers have it too.
Xavier Becerra, secretary of HHS, Robert Califf, commissioner of the FDA, who are the subject of the Pfizer paper's book, which is now Climbing bestseller lists all over Amazon.
And Dr. Mandy Cohen, director of the CDC. So they need to produce The unredacted versions of those documents showing an April and May 2021 freakout at the highest levels because they'd all been notified that kids were getting terminally sick, fatal conditions, and now we see kids dying in their sleep, dropping dead on the athletic fields.
naomi wolf
These people knew, the White House knew, and covered it up.
steve bannon
What about, this is amazing, and great work, and so much more to go.
Johnson, a new day dawning.
Alex Jones, I saw Alex was tweeting and had you some clip.
What was that about?
dr naomi wolf
Yeah, I mean, pretty big deal.
So we were talking about the fact that we've got a demented president and no one's in charge of the White House, it would appear.
unidentified
And there were missiles into Russia.
dr naomi wolf
Do you want me to pick up after the break?
Oh no, I'll keep going.
steve bannon
No, we've got to bounce.
So can you give it to me quick?
dr naomi wolf
Sure.
Basically, people think that we don't have time to get rid of Biden and to sideline VP Harris.
But in fact, I looked at Article 25 in the Constitution Center, and Congress does have the power to convene an oversight disability panel to remove a demented president.
And Congress can also pass an amendment.
To move the inauguration forward so we could theoretically have President Trump in stopping World War III immediately, not waiting until January.
steve bannon
Naomi Wolf rolling hand grenades.
Where did they go to get all the information about what you're working on with Senator Johnson?
dr naomi wolf
Quickly go to Amazon, order the Pfizer papers.
But you can also go to Daily Cloud and read the whole press release.
And you can go to Senator Johnson's website as well.
And especially if you are in one of Senator Johnson's constituents and you approve of what he's doing, give him support.
Give your elected officials support for what he's doing.
naomi wolf
They need resources.
They need to know that there's an appetite for justice among the constituents.
dr naomi wolf
And good job, Posse.
This is all you guys in War Room.
steve bannon
Incredible.
Amy Kelly and the great team over at Daily Clout.
And of course, the War Room Posse.
Social media, where do they go for you on social media?
dr naomi wolf
Dailycloud.io.
Please support us.
This is, you know, very arduous work.
We have a lot of people to take care of.
naomi wolf
And please go to Outspoken on Substack.
dr naomi wolf
And also behind the FDA curtain, you can subscribe and support us there as well.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
Thank you, ma'am.
Thank you for all the work.
Short commercial break.
Back.
We're going to China and Europe next.
unidentified
All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
War Room Battleground with Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
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Okay.
Ben Harnwell joins us from Rome.
Ben, there's a lot going on in Ukraine, but I've got to get your comments and your thoughts on Bolsonaro.
They've just indicted him and 35 of his fellow colleagues.
We just had Paulo on to start the show.
Your thoughts, sir?
ben harnwell
Steve, good evening to you.
Look, it's a bit weird.
I don't quite understand how this judicial process in Brazil functions.
The police have prepared this sealed dossier which they've given to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court is then going to pass it to its prosecutor general who's going to decide whether to press charges and go to trial or to drop the charges.
You know, the Supreme Court's normally The high authority, isn't it, that decides on legal due process.
Well, the role is here.
This is the same court, obviously, that caused Bolsonaro problems two years ago himself.
And it's the same guy, the head of the Supreme Court, that...
That switched off the Starlink satellites because of the Twitter problem.
So there's no idea here that the Supreme Court's impartial.
And it's clearly, Steve, it's clearly an attempt to use the judiciary to block a movement that is popular with the people because they know on head-to-head They don't have the power anymore that it's slipping beyond their control.
It's the same thing that we see in the United States.
It's the same thing, Steve, that we're seeing exactly with France that's launched this extremely suspect and politicised case against Marine Le Pen, trying to block her candidacy in the next presidential elections, block her ability to stand for office for five years.
That's all they have left, Steve.
It's the courts.
But what I really want to say now, if I may, just talking about US domestic politics for one moment, is the manoeuvre of the senators here in the numbers, in saying that they weren't going to support Matt Gaetz, that he wasn't going to have the numbers, in saying that they weren't going to support Matt Gaetz, that he wasn't going to have
Their shtick is that, you know, it's their job, as Grace Chong would say, it's their one job to scrutinise presidential nominees and either reject them or accept them.
And they clearly haven't accepted your argument, Steve, that the president was shot in the face and four months later wins a landslide majority in Electoral College and then he gets to choose who he wants in the cabinet.
They've not accepted that argument and they think that's the constitutional role.
Steve, my suggestion is this.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
Collins and Murkowski and McConnell and all the rest of them.
Fair enough.
If they want to say that's their shtick, that's their role.
Indeed it is.
Fair enough.
But it's not the president's job, in the same way, to rub a stamp on what they want.
I remember in the first administration, he backed down, President Trump backed down four times when it came to the annual Budget negotiations and for the biannual debt ceiling negotiations.
He backed down twice on those.
He now has the full mandate to face down the GOP, his own political party, and say to them, you're going to play that game with me, I'll play it with you.
Do not present me a budget over X trillion dollars, right?
Unless it has my apportionment spending for repatriations and for the war, don't pretend to me.
I'll veto it, right?
And then we'll discuss the other things that you want to spend, right?
I'm telling you that now.
This is what he should say.
I'm telling you this now.
It's not your job to rubber stamp my cabinet nominations.
It's not my job to rubber stamp your budget, right?
Give me the money I want or I'll reject that.
I think what they have done is incredibly foolish in this regard because he's the president.
There are three branches of federal government, right?
unidentified
Judiciary, But we're going to have to see if it's foolish because they won.
steve bannon
I mean, let's face it.
Even the buzz and energy with Gates gone is different.
I don't want to mislead people.
I'm not going to mislead people.
And it's just different.
I mean, their gates, that was a McConnell rearguard action that worked.
We've got to face that.
We've got to figure out how we're going to work around it.
Before I bounce, real quickly, update on people are incredibly nervous over here that Biden and the Biden regime is driving us into a broader conflict in Europe and Eurasia with this Ukraine situation.
Give us an update.
ben harnwell
Well, earlier on today, Vladimir Putin has said that he has every right to continue to send these missiles, these intercontinental ballistic missiles.
He's denied that they are ICBMs, actually.
But he said he has every right to continue to do that, and he will continue to do that.
I still think that that is more for his domestic audience I'm a fan for a real statement of intent because I'm sure he's waiting to do what should have been three years ago, is sit down with a serious leader of the United States and discuss peace in Ukraine.
So I don't think he's actually going to launch against America or Britain, though today he has said he has every right to do so.
I think it's more saber-rattling As I say, for his domestic audience, because now the American people have spoke very clearly and decisively on November 5th.
They're not playing Mitch McConnell's scope.
Mitch McConnell, by the way, let me just insert this quickly.
He said he wants to, I think, on the apportionment subcommittee in the Senate, that's defence, because he says that defence is the thing that he's most passionate in, and he wants to be lobbied for extra funding for that.
To come back to my early point, it's the president that has to sign off And I think he can send that back to these wayward senators and say, I have the mandate for peace, we'll have peace in Ukraine, we'll have a United States defense force that protects the defensive interests of the United States, and no more warring around the world.
And I think Putin is sensible enough to realize that it actually has a mature man that it can discuss peace with, because on January the 20th, the senile, degenerate, Imposter will no longer be in office.
steve bannon
Ben, what is your social media?
People want to know how they can follow you over the weekend.
ben harnwell
Steve Guetta, as always, at Harnwell on Guetta.
I'll do a quick name shout to your own account, at Steve Bannon, and at Warham as well.
Everything in the world that takes place, you'll find that from those two main sources, at Warham and at Steve Bannon.
I might just give a quick teaser for the Warham Posse, Steve, that we are discussing my presence on another social media platform.
That is in the news constantly at the moment, but we'll be revealing more news on that anon.
steve bannon
Ben Harnwell, our international editor from Rome.
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate you.
ben harnwell
Thanks, Steve.
God bless.
steve bannon
New federal state of China.
I'm the co-founder, along with the great Miles Guo.
New federal state of China's new secretary, Forrest Zhou, joins us.
A couple things, Forrest.
I want to get your thoughts.
She's just down in Brazil with Lula.
Next thing you know, they're rubbing up on each other because Lula's an apparatchik of the Chinese Communist Party.
The Chinese Communist Party has designs on Brazil, like they have designs on Australia.
And the next thing you know, Bolsonaro is indicted with 35 of his colleagues for a coup that actually never happened.
Does the CCP know about lawfare?
Do they know how lawfare works in the West, sir?
forrest zhou
Well, you know, they know this very well.
They use this very well.
You know, Miles, back in 2017, mentioned about BGY and unrestricted warfare, right?
So what happens in Peru and also in Brazil right now, what clearly is what we mentioned, BGY, that's G, that's the goal.
They use financial incentives, you know, to influence all those government individuals and also The organizations.
This is what exactly happened.
And they use all this money, built all their One Belt, One Road project, which is actually military and civil fusion project, which could be threatened all the Western country for their safety and security.
So, you know, the CCP does this for a long time, and they use this unrestricted warfare very well.
And it is very dangerous for us.
steve bannon
Incredibly dangerous.
I mean, you can see the Justice Department.
This is why we've got to take down the administrative state and the deep state.
One thing Miles warned us about, I mean, back in 2019, I think it was, I think it was 2019, in the spring, we were doing coverage nonstop on Hong Kong.
Brutal news the other day, I think it was, what, 45?
Pro-democracy, peaceful demonstrators sentenced to prison.
I thought we had a deal with, I thought the CCP was going to take hands off on Hong Kong, and Hong Kong was going to be able to be free, I don't know, for another 40 or 50 years.
Is that not the case, sir?
forrest zhou
No, absolutely not.
You know, they claim there is one country, two system.
But you know, CCP, they never kept their promises.
And what happened back in 2020 with the security law, when they imposed this law, there was over one million protesters, Hong Kongers protested this law.
But after that, they suppressed all the protesters.
Now what you are saying is they're using this so-called security law to go after their descendants and also all the political opponents, which is very dangerous.
Hong Kong has no longer has their autonomy and they lost all their freedom.
But back in 2020, you remember you had that broadcast with Miles.
Miles warned the country if this is happening in Hong Kong, this will go through, you know, all over the world.
Everybody will follow that trend.
The totalitarian government will surprise all their We have to stop CCP. We have to stop all their unlawful actions.
This is crazy what they have done to all those peoples in Hong Kong.
steve bannon
Now, there's, you know, the Hong Kong thing started with these young people.
You know, it was getting together and, you know, having these little protests out by the main square there, where the Centafaf is, where the Hong Kong Club is, where the Mandarin Oriental Hotel, right there at the Star Ferry.
That's where it started.
Something else is starting, and you brought this to my attention.
I appreciate it.
I saw a couple of news reports, but I thought something was odd because they're trying to crack down.
Tell me about young people riding bicycles in the evening.
What is going on?
Is this a protest against the CCP dictatorship, sir?
forrest zhou
Absolutely.
On the surface, you might see this is over 200,000 students in Zhengzhou or Henan Province.
This is the location where Miles has his super five-star hotel.
This becomes the event arranging.
More than 2,000 200,000 students ride the bicycles from Zhengzhou to Kaifeng, which is about 37 miles away from the city.
What they are doing is they claim, okay, don't worry, the government, we are just going there to have our dinner, to grab something to eat.
But this is really a movement.
It's now the internal.
The CCP defined this as a small Jew force event.
So they are cracking down the event.
They were blocking the highway.
They actually locked down the What's the indication from this event?
First, you can see the economy is really worsening.
It's collapsing.
The second, actually, the young people, the young generation is eager for freedom and law in this country.
They are not satisfied with the employment situation.
They are not satisfied with the government.
There is no law.
But the most important thing I would point out is that For this movement, actually, the New Federal State of China played a key role in this.
As I just mentioned, the origin of this movement started from Zhengzhou, where Mao has his first hotel there.
We have a lot of supporters and FSC supporters and final fighters actually organizing and coordinating this event.
And actually, unfortunately, some of them have been arrested by now.
But let me tell you this.
This event won't stop, even though the CCP is cracking down heavily.
But this event will, you know, cross the country and we'll have more events coming in.
Not only the students, but also the farmers and the veterans and maybe even the government employees.
And also, Pay attention, this event will break out across the whole country, especially in the central and southern and western region of the country.
So this is really the big event, although it looks peaceful, but it really tells you there is a potential power to overthrow the CCP government.
steve bannon
Forrest, where do people go to get more about the new federal state?
This bicycle started with a couple of hundred people, then went to a couple of thousand.
You're right, it's getting massive and the government's already starting to crack down.
We assume it's going to spread with the freedom-loving Lao Bai Jing.
Where do people go here, particularly in the United States, to get all the content you guys are putting up?
forrest zhou
Yeah, you can find us on Getter.
We have two channels there.
We have NFSC TV, and we also have English channel with NFSC Speaks.
So you can find us there.
steve bannon
Fantastic.
Forrest, thank you so much.
Appreciate you coming on.
forrest zhou
Thank you so much, sir.
steve bannon
If we get Grace and Mo, let's make sure on Getter we push, particularly the English language one so everybody can get up to speed.
What's happening in Hunan?
I would check out, there is something going on with this, these freedom rides, the bicycles, and I will follow it closely.
Tomorrow, we're going to get more, we're going to obviously have so much more transition, some more announcements coming.
We're going to talk about the resistance, how we're going to get around that, how you're going to punch through it.
Also, President Trump's plans economically for cutting the budget, all of that defense.
I'm going to drill down this Bolsonaro situation.
He's indicted down in Brazil.
They're talking about an indictment.
He and 35 of those colleagues, they're trying to pull the same thing they pulled here and Forrest told you about lawfare.
The Chinese Communist Party in the deep state really bring the heat.
I can tell you firsthand that that's a reality and you've got to fight back.
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