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This is what you're fighting for. | ||
I mean, every day you're out there. | ||
What they're doing is blowing people off. | ||
If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians get total control and total power. | ||
Because this is just like in Arizona. | ||
This is just like in Georgia. | ||
It's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations. | ||
This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged. | ||
As we've told you, this is the fight. | ||
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All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth. | |
War Room. | ||
Battleground. | ||
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
Okay, it's Tuesday, excuse me, Monday, 11 November, year of our Lord, 2024. | ||
Veterans Day. | ||
Veterans Day, the 11th hour, the 11th day of the 11th month, the guns went silent, and I'm here with one of my favorite veterans. | ||
You're going to the Senate to talk to the folks tonight. | ||
Talk to me about President Trump, the guidance for the transition team, I know you're close to a lot of people. | ||
This whole fight we're having in the Senate now for recess appointments. | ||
Tell the audience, what is the importance of President Trump having the option to have recess appointments? | ||
First of all, it's very important for him to have the option to grant security clearances by himself and to have a vetting system done because last time, Eight years ago, the deep state completely slow-rolled and blocked people they didn't want from ever getting a clearance, not because they shouldn't have had a clearance, just because the deep state didn't want them. | ||
But second, the Senate can do all kinds of... | ||
Fluctuations and gyrations to slow roll candidates to prevent people from actually getting in and running the government. | ||
So President Trump needs to have the recess appointment ability to staff the government and to run it. | ||
And to actually get after shrinking it, cutting back the bureaucracy, and all the things that President Trump campaigned on, you have to be able to enact. | ||
Would you, if offered, be, if President Trump talked to you, would you go be Secretary of Defense or head of the CIA? Speaking of recess appointments. | ||
If the President actually asked me to do that, sure. | ||
I served in the military. | ||
I swore to defend the Constitution. | ||
If the President asked you to do something, I'll do it. | ||
But I think my highest and best use is to be in the private sector and to show how some of these things can be fixed and stabilized much cheaper, much faster, using all the innovations of the private sector. | ||
What Elon Musk has done to space launch is extraordinary, and he did it outside of NASA. Because he set his goal to make space launch a thousand times cheaper, and he's on his way to doing that. | ||
And America was made great with private sector innovation. | ||
It was American capital and American innovation that put railroads down and telegraphs and telephone lines and, and, and. | ||
We have a problem that we just had too much government and so much bloat. | ||
Amen. | ||
So giving the president options to benchmark to say it only has to cost this much instead of this much, that's definitely the answer going forward. | ||
If the new head of the CIA, whoever, and by the way, it's a huge article in the New York Post, our own Cash Patel, right now, according to the New York Post, Cash Patel is supposed to be the leading candidate for director of the Central Intelligence Agency. | ||
I'm very proud that War Room's putting up some big numbers here in this transition. | ||
If the head of the CIA, whoever it is, came to you to be, was it the Director of Operations? | ||
What's that? | ||
Or Deputy Director. | ||
Deputy Director. | ||
But what is, it's got official, what Kofra Black was. | ||
He was the head of the Counterterrorism Center. | ||
If they came to you for the operational part of it. | ||
Right? | ||
Not the analytical part. | ||
Not the assessments. | ||
No, that's been the problem is that Brendan really screwed it up because Brendan attempted to be a case officer and he failed out of case officer school and he was an analyst. | ||
And so there's been an over bias towards analysis. | ||
But they merged them together under his watch. | ||
It was terrible. | ||
We wanted Pompeo to unwind that, but he came back to us and said it was too difficult. | ||
Yeah, bullshit. | ||
Sorry. | ||
We have the same amount of case officers today as we did in 1980, but we have 50 times the support and administrative staff. | ||
It's like hospital administrators or college administrators. | ||
The CIA has become a big central administration agency, and that can be cut overnight because civil service rules don't apply. | ||
The director and the deputy director can cut that sucker down to size quickly and efficiently. | ||
Eric Prince heading across the street to the Capitol. | ||
Talk to the new senators. | ||
Get them fired up for MAGA. I want to thank you for coming on Veterans Day. | ||
I couldn't think of a better guy to spend it with you. | ||
Good to have you back, Steve. | ||
Glad to be back, sir. | ||
Roger that. | ||
From my convict phase. | ||
Thank you, brother. | ||
Eric Prince, one of the best of the best. | ||
A guy who's pure MAGA and has been head president Trump's back from the beginning. | ||
Natalie is going to slip in here now and get her headset up, and I'm going to get Julie Kelly up momentarily as soon as we get... | ||
As soon as we get Natalie here, what is going on? | ||
It's a huge, huge, huge rush over on Capitol Hill. | ||
On the Senate side, Eric's going to... | ||
I think you're going to have to get wired up because we've got a guest. | ||
Can we do that? | ||
We'll just produce here live. | ||
The... | ||
Over at the Senate today, a firestorm. | ||
That firestorm was driven, quite frankly, by yesterday. | ||
Benny Johnson released the whip count of the Senate's vote for its new leader. | ||
And Mitch McConnell had two puppets, Cornyn It had the puppet of Cornyn and it had the puppet of John Thune, and it turned out a lot of MAGA senators or supposedly MAGA senators were voting for these guys. | ||
Now, my phone blew up this afternoon, as did others that came to me and said, hey, this guy or this woman says that this is not fair, this is not right. | ||
And I say it's a simple, it's a very simple thing that we can do to solve that. | ||
And that simple thing to do to solve it is, the simple thing to do to solve it is to just come forward and publicly say who are you going to support and publicly then sit there and endorse somebody so that we can possibly hear it. | ||
Um, but, And we didn't get any takers on that. | ||
So the Senate has to know that this is just not going to be something that's done in private. | ||
You're going to be public. | ||
Benny Johnson's committed. | ||
If you don't make the vote public, Benny Johnson's going to release the votes anyway. | ||
He's already got the whip count. | ||
And this is going to be something that's a firestorm. | ||
That's what we need. | ||
Everybody on watch tomorrow, 10 o'clock show, we'll get onto it. | ||
Natalie, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
I appreciate you. | ||
Julie Kelly's here. | ||
Julie, we're talking about recess appointments, and one of the things may be to get, I don't know, a DAG, a deputy attorney general, that may appoint a special counsel to Garfter Jack Smith. | ||
Get me up to speed on what's going on on all these topics, ma'am. | ||
Well, I think that's one of the considerations. | ||
You and I talked about that. | ||
You suggested it, I think it was last week, a special counsel to investigate the special counsel. | ||
But look, it does appear that there is great interest on Capitol Hill. | ||
My understanding is the House and Senate side. | ||
In looking into the misconduct by special counsel Jack Smith, his top prosecutors David Harbaugh, Jay Bratt, Thomas Windham and Molly Gaston, the last two handled the January 6th indictment in Washington. | ||
David Harbaugh and Jay Brad, of course, handled the bulk of the classified documents case in Florida. | ||
That case, Steve and Natalie, really represents, I think, the biggest fertile ground for congressional and or special counsel to investigate what happened there, starting with the unprecedented, unnecessary Dangerous armed raid of Mar-a-Lago. | ||
You know, Steve and Natalie, you probably saw this. | ||
I was posting last night excerpts from Melania Trump's book where she talks about how deeply personally violated she felt by that armed raid. | ||
And she was in New York at the time. | ||
She instructed her house manager to leave everything as it was after the FBI left after nine hours. | ||
And she went back and she was horrified at what she saw. | ||
And you had agents rummaging through her personal effects, her medical records, her clothing. | ||
She didn't really know if things had been stolen or taken out of her personal bedroom suite. | ||
But there were lists, as I reported, and we talked about at the time, when Judge Cannon unsealed the FBI's raid plan back in May. | ||
And I was posting what they had, and they took several items out, or they took several photographs Of the contents of Melania's personal bedroom suite. | ||
And of course they also rummaged through Barron's bedroom as well. | ||
And she talked about very emotionally what that meant to her and the fear that it instilled in her and even the staff at Mar-a-Lago. | ||
That raid needs to be a whole separate investigation. | ||
Now perhaps the special counsel will look just into that raid and then congressional investigators can look at Jack Smith. | ||
We cannot allow what happened In Jack Smith's office and what preceded it in the Merrick Garland, Lisa Monaco, DOJ, we cannot allow that to stand without consequences and punishment. | ||
Julie, I'm sure you've seen the reporting today that the DOJ is looking to pursue what they say the most serious felony cases when it comes to the January 6th rioters. | ||
I know we're talking sort of in past tense about a lot of this, you know, Jack Smith, January 6th insurrection stuff, but it seems like they're not going to give up without a fight, right? | ||
To the last breath, to the last minute, they're going to do anything they can, whether just from the narrative side of things. | ||
We already see Jack Smith potentially releasing this report today. | ||
Just a sort of an exercise of, you know, publicly writing as much as he can just to hurt the incoming Trump administration. | ||
I'm just curious your thoughts directionally where you think they're going to go with a lot of these prosecutions. | ||
Right. | ||
Good question, Natalie. | ||
So as we're seeing the DOJ and FBI continuing to arrest and prosecute J6ers on Election Day, the FBI arrested a man from Georgia, a key swing state, of course, on Election Day. | ||
A few days ago, they arrested two men from the suburbs of Chicago, where I am right now, on low-level misdemeanors. | ||
So it's not even, Natalie, the most serious cases. | ||
Yes, they will continue to make up these assaults on police officers, assault-slash-interfering with law enforcement. | ||
This is the 111 charge that they brought against hundreds of J6ers, but also low-level misdemeanors. | ||
But what's even worse, Natalie and Steve, is the judges in Washington refusing to delay jury trials, refusing to delay sentencing until after January 20th. | ||
They had individuals on trial last week during the election. | ||
Just as we found out that as a lot of other cities were trending red, the city of Chicago right here, 22% voted for Donald Trump. | ||
That was something we saw in major blue cities across the country. | ||
What was the one outlier? | ||
Washington, D.C., stuck with its 2020 vote, 93% for the Democratic presidential candidate, 5% to 6% for Donald Trump. | ||
How in the world can these judges continue to allow jury trials and reports of jury recycling? | ||
I mean, Washington is a small town, as you guys know. | ||
It's a small city. | ||
Where I am the Northern District of Illinois, 9 million voters it represents. | ||
The tiny district of Columbia, D.C. district there. | ||
What is it? | ||
600,000 residents. | ||
So we've heard reports of juror recycling because they are up to 150 different trials here. | ||
How can they continue this? | ||
This is what we've talked about. | ||
The real villains in this entire J6 persecution are the judges who are allowing this to happen, and they are going to allow this to happen Until 12.01 p.m. | ||
on January 20th, 2025, to inflict the maximum punishment against Americans who dared to enter their personal fiefdom almost four years ago and protest what we now know for sure, the rigged election of 2020. | ||
How are Thune—look, we're having a firestorm in the next 48 to 72 hours over in the Senate. | ||
How are Cornyn and Thune on J6, ma'am? | ||
Well, Steve, I've been posting that since yesterday, clips of especially John Cornyn. | ||
He has been an ardent defender of the DOJ, took to the floor in 2021 to give a glowing endorsement of both Merrick Garland and Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco. | ||
How is that possible? | ||
Think about this. | ||
48 Republican senators, with the exception of Ted Cruz and Rand Paul, voted to put Lisa Monaco, who had worked for Robert Mueller at the FBI, one of Barack Obama's closest advisors, Lisa Monaco, an architect of the Russia collusion hoax. | ||
48% Republicans voted to put her in charge of the Department of Justice in 2021. | ||
John Cornyn took to the Senate floor both times to give a full-throated endorsement of Garland and Monaco. | ||
He asked Christopher Wray, and I have all these clips up at Acts Julie underscore Kelly, too. | ||
During a March 2021 Senate hearing with FBI Director Christopher Wray over the events of January 6th, John Cornyn actually asked Christopher Wray if they needed to pass harsher federal laws that the FBI and DOJ could use against J6ers, because there is no There are a lot of other charges that we've seen under the rubric of domestic terrorism, but there's no terrorism charge statute. | ||
He actually was asking Chris Wray, do you need more government tools to go after what he called extremists? | ||
This is John Cornett. | ||
They both opposed the RNC resolution in 2022, asking Congress to censure Adam Kinzinger and Liz Cheney. | ||
They both supported The J6 Select Committee. | ||
John Cornyn compared January 6th to 9-11. | ||
And earlier this year, John Thune, in an interview, said he opposed pardons for J6ers claiming that they had all received a fair trial in Washington, D.C. This is just the tip of the iceberg of what those two, as they've gone around the world, hugged, you know, President Zelensky, talked about democracy in Ukraine, but supporting The police state and authoritarian tactics here in America against Trump supporters. | ||
They should not only be nowhere near the levers of power, they should both be primary immediately during their next primary. | ||
I think Cornyn's up in 2026. | ||
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So you are with You agree. | |
You're with us in saying that the posse should contact their senators in that, one, it should be public vote, but number two, under no circumstances, Thune or Cornyn, correct? | ||
Absolutely. | ||
Neither one of them should be Senate leader, Senate majority leader, because they will stand in the way of what we know we need today. | ||
Major reforms to the DOJ, dismantling of the FBI, and investigations into Special Counsel Jack Smith, investigations into D.C. U.S. Attorney Matthew Graves, which will also touch upon these federal judges that have put their judicial imprimatur on the most egregious political, destructive criminal investigation and prosecution in U.S. history. | ||
We know they will stand in the way of that and do everything that they can publicly and privately to stop that from happening. | ||
Okay, so the lead story in the right-hand column of the New York Times today is Trump is pulled towards two paths on retribution, and it's revenge versus unity. | ||
And Mike Davis and Jeff Clark are kind of given as the revenge team, with implications that Julie Kelly is their wingman, and Jay Clayton and others, more standard Republicans, are the unity team. | ||
Is that what this is about? | ||
Is this about revenge, Julie Kelly? | ||
Do you want my honest answer? | ||
Of course it's about revenge. | ||
I got that. | ||
Give me your answer for MSNBC tonight. | ||
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Go ahead. | |
Yes, I think that it is fair to seek revenge on behalf of these 1,500 plus J6ers, their families who have been utterly tormented and destroyed. | ||
Yes, I want revenge for the suicide Yes, I want revenge, Steve, for the prosecutors and judges Who put you in prison and Peter Navarro in prison for failing to play along with what we now know, | ||
not only an illegitimate congressional committee, but one that was involved in criminal misconduct, destruction of evidence, tampering with witnesses, suborting perjury, all of what we now know that Liz Cheney and the J6 committee and Benny Thompson were involved with. | ||
So do I want revenge? | ||
Is there a nicer word for it? | ||
Probably. | ||
But I'm not in the mood for nicer words. | ||
I've seen firsthand what this DOJ and these judges have done to innocent Americans, costing their lives, destroying their marriages, breaking up relationships with their own children, bankrupting them, de-platforming them from major institutions like banks down to smaller things like DoorDash, being complete outcasts in their communities. | ||
So do I want revenge? | ||
For the prosecutors and judges, top officials, even line prosecutors responsible for the weaponization of our laws in our justice system to punish people who protested Joe Biden's illegitimate election. | ||
Yeah, so I'm on the side of revenge and retaliation and redemption for the J6ers, people like you, Peter Navarro, and of course, Donald Trump and his family as well. | ||
Julie, where do people go to get your content? | ||
I'm at Declassified with Julie Kelly at Substack Real Clear Investigations and also posting a lot. | ||
I'll have a lot more tonight on Corning and Thune at XJulie underscore Kelly 2. | ||
This is very important we get this. | ||
We'll get the information up tomorrow morning because tomorrow everybody goes to work. | ||
202-224-3121 is the main switchboard for the United States Senate. | ||
Julie Kelly, thank you very much. | ||
Thanks, guys. | ||
Natalie, thoughts on this situation in the Senate, ma'am? | ||
Well, look, in 2022, President Trump endorsed Thune's primary opponent. | ||
Case closed, right? | ||
But just to give a laundry list of everyone who's watching the show, all the reasons. | ||
Take your pick as to why you should call 202-224, in this case, 3121. | ||
First of all, he said that President Trump did a disservice to the American people by talking about election fraud in 2020. | ||
That's Thune. | ||
Secondly, quote, I'm hoping we have other options. | ||
That wasn't in the 2016 race. | ||
That was just two years ago in reference to the GOP primary. | ||
He said that you guys, this show, MAGA Republicans, the grassroots, you guys engaged in cancel culture for saying that Republicans who voted to impeach Trump should be held accountable. | ||
He said President Trump was not presidential in his tweets. | ||
He said he didn't like his tone, that he needs to tone it down. | ||
But here's the buried lead. | ||
I've watched a lot of his old media kind of reporting. | ||
He is on record saying that he doesn't think it's worth shutting down the government to secure the border. | ||
And we're going to have fights like that. | ||
Probably worse with mass deportations. | ||
I think out of the box we're going to have a fight like that. | ||
We're going to run out of money on the 20th of Christmas Eve. | ||
They're going to kick it into January. | ||
President Trump is one of the things I keep telling people. | ||
You're going to have to fund the government as your first work. | ||
You need people in the Senate to have your back. | ||
And what this signal, not the noise is, I think, with the January 6th stuff is that you're dealing with someone who just critically does not think for themselves, right? | ||
They don't have the backbone, the spine to stand in the breach. | ||
And we didn't come all this way. | ||
This audience didn't put their shoulder to the wheel to have the victory become a pyrrhic victory by putting someone, right, like Thune in. | ||
And look, I think, too, you also have to realize that when we talk about the resistance who we're going up against, so much of it, at least that I've been focusing on lately, is like the left-wing sort of iteration, derivation of the resistance. | ||
But these people are the backbone, the epitome of the right-wing resistance. | ||
And frankly, when you see this idea emerging, right, of holding this vote behind closed doors, not wanting it to be out in the open, I'm inclined to think back to the early days of war room impeachment when people like, I remember there was an op-ed in the New York Times by Juliana Glover, one of these, you know, Republican, big-ticket lobbyist donor types who advocated for holding the impeachment votes on secret ballot to try to avoid accountability. | ||
So they're doing the same thing. | ||
They're not just lying to you and doing what, you know, rhinos, whatever you want to call them, do best. | ||
But I also think, too, the other key point here, even taking the politics out of it, this audience, the grassroots who got these stupid people elected, have been the vanguard of election integrity. | ||
Verifiable chain of custody ballots. | ||
So for House or Senate Republicans to want to do this vote behind closed doors, it's offensive and it's an affront to the whole entire election integrity movement, the same people who lectured us why we need to have the Save Act and that's why we need to have a CR. So save it, right? | ||
These people have done absolutely nothing. | ||
The only reason that people like Jim Jordan, right, are being able to put out those statements saying that, oh, Jack Smith needs to preserve those documents, it's not because these people have done anything. | ||
I've yet to see Thune ever hold a press conference saying that what the DOJ did to you or what they've done to Jan Sixers was wrong. | ||
No, no, no, he's too busy saying that we need to broaden the purview of Biden's DOJ to go after the audience, people that watch this show, who we think, oh, but he has harsh words for this audience. | ||
We're engaging in cancel culture. | ||
Well, how about this? | ||
Yeah, you're canceled. | ||
How about that? | ||
How do you see this playing out? | ||
Because they're dug in over at the Senate and there's a lot of games. | ||
And Politico, a senator goes to Politico anonymously and says, hey, a bunch of social media influencers are not going to bully us in the Senate. | ||
We're going to do our thing. | ||
Which is ironic since it's social media influencers, the live streaming business, the podcast that just was the backbone of the information war that just won this massive victory. | ||
Yeah, they just can't handle that it's alternative, it's independent media, and they can say that, but you know as well as I do, they melt down when they get the phone calls from our audience. | ||
And you know what? | ||
Thune and Cornyn and Mr. | ||
Anonymous Senator who's going to Politico, why don't you ask Kevin McCarthy how that bullying works out? | ||
Frankly, I think bullying is doing a heavy lift there. | ||
This show doesn't bully. | ||
We get justice, we get revenge, we get retribution, whatever word the New York Times wants to use. | ||
And that's not just limited. | ||
To Democrats, right? | ||
Republicans are wholly in on the trade. | ||
This shows you right here what President Trump is up against. | ||
The Senate is the bastion of the donor class, right? | ||
And one of the things they talk about is that this is Mitch McConnell's last stand. | ||
This is his last time to take on President Trump. | ||
I remember, Speaker Johnson, hopefully that changes too, but said the quiet part out loud. | ||
He said, after President Trump's win, we now live in a center-right America. | ||
No, we live in a MAGA America, but the fight that you're seeing right now is sort of through that paradigm, right? | ||
Through that matrix of the MAGA wing of the Republican Party, duking it out with the more establishment, you know, pet Mitch McConnell types. | ||
And we didn't come this far to have that happen. | ||
But I think it's also important, too, that on the sort of other side of the resistance, and I know we'll get into it after the break, But you also have people going to Politico by the name of Norm Eisen, who are quite literally the source that Politico is quoting and referencing. | ||
They don't even know how egregious it is in regards to how all the DOJ career appointees are very fearful for their lives because President Trump won, saying how they need to stay embedded in the DOJ. That's the only way they can subvert Trump's agenda. | ||
The Pentagon is having meetings about what's a lawful order. | ||
The DOJ's dug in. | ||
I'm telling you, folks, the next 80 days, the fight to take control of the institutions is now. | ||
I've been told elections have consequences. | ||
Well, maybe they also have revenge. | ||
I think Obama told you that. | ||
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There's a virtual law firm of people besides us that are working right now on the brief Just fill in some names and some dates. | |
The lawsuit, the draft, we know exactly what they're going to do. | ||
They may have been... | ||
They may have ready a raft of 40 executive orders for him to use his Sharpie with on January 20th. | ||
But I assure you, we have a raft of dozens of lawsuits already drafted with our fingers hovering over the print and file button against each one of those things. | ||
And now we have the advantage because we're in the plaintiff driver's seat. | ||
You're back in the war room. | ||
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I don't know if I was opening or who was opening, but Cameron pointed on me. | |
Tell me what the clip was. | ||
That cold open was about what? | ||
Talking about how even outside of the DOJ, sort of within the government subversion, that you're going to have a bunch of activist-type lawyers who already have thousands, you know, miles of pages of lawsuits ready to go. | ||
These people are amped up, hyped up. | ||
We're going to get into, though, I think after we bring Jeff on, An interesting development. | ||
I say we go after all the NGOs, all the groups, all their tax-exempt status justifiably. | ||
And there's actually a new bill on the House floor right now that could potentially, under the purview of these groups supporting terrorism, which I would argue they are, we can get into that, but could strip them of their tax-exempt status, similar to what they've done to a lot of conservative groups. | ||
But I believe we have Jeff Clark down the line. | ||
Jeff, I just want to tee the piece up for the audience. | ||
There's too many juicy quotes. | ||
I can't go without reading them. | ||
But the article today in Politico, many in government are worried about Trump's return at DOJ. They're terrified. | ||
They cite an anonymous source saying, quote, you need career people there to make sure that the maniacs in charge just can't, like, run roughshod over federal laws and DOJ practice. | ||
I was able to tone down briefs in a way that people who would have replaced me would not have. | ||
And then, of course, Politico and its infinite knowledge quoted none other than color revolution extraordinaire Norm Eisen to say, quote, they should absolutely stay. | ||
And the continuity of that career civil service staff will be very, very important to the preservation of the republic. | ||
I can already see the new whistleblowers developing. | ||
Jeff, I'm curious your thoughts as sort of, you know, public meltdown over what's going on internally at the DOJ, how you think it's going to shake out from a personnel perspective. | ||
Well, thanks for having me, Steve and Natalie. | ||
And let me first say something about your cold open about Michael Popok threatening his fingers hovering over the print button. | ||
I watched that exchange from Midas Touch, which he does with Karen Friedman Agnifolo often and her husband's. | ||
You know, the guy who represented Keith Raniere, the NXIVM cult, sex cult guy, and now represents P. Diddy. | ||
So these are wonderful people we're dealing with, and Popak is truly a piece of work. | ||
He's one of these people I call a leader of the Journal Lawfare movement. | ||
And then that Politico piece is really striking, isn't it? | ||
But it's not a surprise to someone like me who's been in two different presidential administrations over at the Justice Department. | ||
This is what career people will do. | ||
They will try to, as it said, soften what briefs say. | ||
They'll try to redirect them to shape them in various other ways. | ||
Or sometimes they'll even just disobey orders that they're given by their political leadership as to what the briefs will say. | ||
And I don't think that this is well understood by the American people, right? | ||
They think that maybe a lot of the career civil servants in that article also talks about an apolitical career civil service. | ||
Well, I mean, we're talking about a career civil service, especially at Maine Justice, that's about 95% Democrat. | ||
So it's not apolitical. | ||
And they very much try to resist in any way they can leadership from a strong Republican president. | ||
And that happened to me back when I was in the Bush administration. | ||
It's not just to President Trump. | ||
It's a serious problem. | ||
And it's why in terms of the seven assistant attorney generals who are going to lead the litigating divisions, the seven litigating divisions of main justice, they have to be people with a backbone. | ||
And they also have to be people who have the legal acumen and the ability and the time to put in to read these briefs so they can see where they're being twisted. | ||
So it's very important, Natalie, and this story is kind of an inadvertent expose of the deep state's tricks. | ||
Before we pivot to the Jack Smith stuff, I think another buried lead in this article, they say, oh, you know, the people in the antitrust division, they're not really freaking out. | ||
They're okay with Trump. | ||
But particularly the one division that they singled out was the National Security Division as being particularly apoplectic over President Trump regaining power. | ||
I'm just curious sort of from, you know, the inside boots on the ground assessment of what goes on in DOJ. Why do you think that division in particular is sort of... | ||
Sure. | ||
That's a very good question. | ||
So if you go back, what's the origin of the National Security Division? | ||
It was created after 9-11 and it was created to be focused on foreign terrorism and stopping that in the U.S. and then prosecuting it when it occurs, right? | ||
But what happened under the Biden administration? | ||
It's been turned inward on DVEs, you know, domestic violent extremists, and they create all these acronyms like AGAVE and then, you know, racially motivated violent extremists, RMVEs. | ||
And that's not what the National Security Division was designed for, but it's how it's been weaponized against the American people. | ||
And it works hand in glove with counterparts at the FBI. So I was shocked at the start of the Biden administration when I read that the National Security Division, which again, you know, has as its genesis 9-11, that they were the ones who were going after the parents at the school board meetings like in Loudoun County. | ||
And that is just such a perversion of what the division was set up to do. | ||
I think even the overreaching Congress back at the time of the Patriot Act, etc., that put some of these mechanisms in place would have rolled over in their political tenures if they saw that. | ||
You know, in the creation of the National Security Division being weaponized directly against the American people for holding conservative, populist, right-wing views. | ||
It's just not what it's for, and it's very anti-American and, I think, unconstitutional as well. | ||
Yeah, that division in particular, I think their fear over the Trump stuff, it's not so much related to Trump. | ||
I think it's fear over what they know they've done to this country. | ||
I will also add Mark Zaid, the impeachment whistleblower who likes young girls who are on Disney Channel, that one. | ||
What about this? | ||
You're implied, this is about you and Davis today, in the thing of revenge versus unity. | ||
Trump is torn between two paths, right? | ||
Two paths on retribution. | ||
Jeff Clark, it's about you and Davis pulling in one direction and people like Jay Clayton and others pulling in another direction. | ||
Is this the proper framing that the New York Times has done, sir? | ||
No, I don't think so, Steve. | ||
Look, they always try to sell a unity ticket, right? | ||
You know, a unity approach because... | ||
They want conservatives and populists to essentially unilaterally disarm. | ||
You know, when they're in office, they don't talk about unity with conservative Republicans and trying to reach a consensus at all. | ||
And then, you know, to set up as a false comparison that, you know, revenge is the other side of that. | ||
No. | ||
What the other side of it is, is accountability, is ensuring that the laws are applied equally, and they have not been applied equally over the last four years, and that those who are law brokers Right. | ||
That they are enforced against. | ||
And I think that, you know, look, in Republican administrations, the career people would come to me. | ||
They would never argue that anything we were trying to do was illegal. | ||
They would just argue that they had a better way to do it or why don't we not do that? | ||
You know, we've never done that before, those kinds of things. | ||
But, you know, we hear from leaks that people at the Justice Department, even with the Biden administration, they've raised questions about things like take the student loan loan. | ||
Talk to us about the Senate fight, what's happening in the next 48 hours and recess appointments, sir. | ||
So, you know, let me stick to the theory of recess appointments. | ||
They did see right before I got online that there was a Hill article that it looks like, you know, senators are going to agree to President Trump's call for recess appointments. | ||
Look, what's happened is that the, you know, Congress—I mean, sorry, the framers clearly wanted in the Constitution that there was a power— Of the president to recess a point. | ||
And it has an inherent constraint built into it, which is it can last until the end of that session of Congress. | ||
So if it was done right at the start of the administration, it could last at most two years. | ||
But sometimes, over the course of history, recess appointment might occur in the middle of that two-year period or with only six months or three months left. | ||
So, you know, it's not like an undefined power that can be used, you know, with no limits. | ||
The framers thought very carefully about this. | ||
So how did the modern Senate react to this? | ||
They basically go into fake continuing sessions that prevent the president from using his recess appointment power. | ||
And I think that that is very contrary to the design of the Constitution. | ||
And so using his political suasion power and the fact that he got a big mandate from the American people in this past election, Steve, that we were there for You know, on Tuesday, watching it till the bitter end until President Trump won, you know, that he's using that power to basically say, look, I want this fake stuff to end. | ||
Give me recess appointments. | ||
Let me fulfill the mandate of the American people. | ||
Let's see how we govern with that. | ||
Don't, you know, put us into like an endless do loop and blockages by the Chuck Schumers of the world. | ||
That's just not the way to run an efficient government. | ||
So I applaud it. | ||
I think that President Trump is being very wise and skillful in pushing back on that. | ||
And you know he knows how to strike good deals. | ||
Jeff, where do people go for social media? | ||
You're on everybody's short list for senior job, either at DOJ or in the White House Counsel's Office or somewhere where you can continue to help the president in these big legal fights. | ||
Where do people go to track you? | ||
Thanks, Steve. | ||
I'm at Jeff Clark U.S. on Getter and X. And at Real Jeff Clark on Truth Social. | ||
And you can always follow the work of the Center for Renewing America, where we have our fearless leader, Russ Vogt, and Mark Paoletta as well, at americarenewing.com. | ||
Payaletta's on the shortlist for, I think, Attorney General and for White House Counsel. | ||
Clark's on the shortlist for both. | ||
Vote is looked at as possible. | ||
OMB. CRA's not doing too bad, man. | ||
You guys punch way above your weight, sir. | ||
We appreciate that, Steve. | ||
And, you know, we just want to help, as our center says, to renew America, to get back to the classical Constitution, which has been either attacked, you know, parts of it destroyed, or We're watered down. | ||
Thank you, brother. | ||
Appreciate you. | ||
Thanks, Steve. | ||
Do we have Mark Zaid from CNN? Is that booted up? | ||
Do we have that clip? | ||
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Yeah, that is going to be clip six. | |
Can we go ahead and play? | ||
Let's play this and we'll have Natalie respond. | ||
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Yeah. | |
I mean, we've got people like Steve Bannon and others who have made it very clear where they stand on seeking political retribution against their perceived enemies using what is called lawfare, which they have been doing for the last four years when he's been out of office, and suing I just want to ask, Mark, you're a lawyer, a good lawyer, a very active lawyer. | ||
Do you feel like you have recourse to fight this in the courts in the coming months if this were to happen? | ||
Well, that's a good question. | ||
I mean, look, the judicial system is still intact. | ||
You know, there are a lot more judges appointed by the president, former president, but I've been before many of them, and oftentimes, if not all the time, you know, they're not swayed by political aspects of it. | ||
There are jurisdictions where that's been a problem, for sure. | ||
The biggest problem with challenging this in court, based on what The administration might do come January 20th is the length of time that it takes. | ||
If someone is prosecuted or sued, I mean, Trump threatened to sue me for treason. | ||
It doesn't exist, but he did it. | ||
But, you know, if something like that happens, it takes time to go through federal court. | ||
We just saw that with the special counsel prosecutions. | ||
The reason why they failed was not substantively. | ||
It was procedurally. | ||
They took too long. | ||
So that, you know, I'd hate for any of my clients to be facing whether criminal or civil. | ||
Okay, thank you. | ||
We can only take so much Mark's aid. | ||
Tell the audience once again who he is, because he's leading the effort. | ||
He's all over CNN, that we're picking on people. | ||
They're getting PTSD. He's advising people to leave the country. | ||
He's advising people to leave the country. | ||
Just saying, Natalie. | ||
Well, Mark Zaid, much like I think we're talking about whether it's the secret impeachment vote, people like, sorry, the Senate vote, the impeachment vote, people like Norm Eisen, these are all the rotating cast of characters who have been intimately involved in basically every effort for the deep state to try to subvert President Trump. | ||
It's a bipartisan effort. | ||
Mark Zaid was and is still a very famous, at least in the state of Washington, D.C., impeachment—or sorry, it's all—I keep saying impeachment, but whistleblower attorney. | ||
Particularly in the first impeachment, he represented the individual sort of, you know, Vindman territory and fame that launched the, you know, the, I guess, shot heard around the world when it came to the first impeachment. | ||
Might I also add— I think Raheem and I did the reporting a few years ago. | ||
His whole history of YouTube likes, very weird. | ||
It was like young Disney stars just going to put that out there. | ||
So I guess par for the course to be a Democrat elite. | ||
But that aside, what he's talking about, you know, honestly, it gets back to this New York Times piece, right? | ||
I do think it's interesting just from an analytical perspective how they're calling it revenge now and not retribution, right? | ||
I think it's always been retribution. | ||
It's a little bit of a branding shift. | ||
But I just fundamentally, at my core, reject the paradigm that it's revenge. | ||
It's a misnomer. | ||
It's not revenge. | ||
And even if you want to go through that territory, it's wholly justified. | ||
And, you know, you see these people re-emerging. | ||
And I was thinking this weekend how you go after the sort of NGO left-wing groups who support so much of this, right? | ||
They're sort of one of the pillars or one of the legs on the stool that create all this. | ||
And I think you have to go justifiably for the tax-exempt statuses. | ||
It's what they did to us. | ||
And they're holding a vote on legislation that would do that right now. | ||
The ACLU is in meltdown. | ||
They're panicking over it. | ||
But I think one institution in particular that we should really be singling out is the Tides Foundation. | ||
They not only fund the Indivisible Network, which is behind a lot of this resistance organizing. | ||
They were behind those New York protests. | ||
They're behind a lot of the Hamas cosplaying protests on college campuses, too. | ||
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We got Tina Peters. | ||
We got a clip from Tina Peters. | ||
Let me play this, and I'll bring in Mike Lindell. | ||
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We did subpoena Mike Frontera, Dominion's lawyer, but they found a way to not let us have our witnesses. | |
What Jenna did, though, since at least June, Those bios passwords, 670 of them, from 63 counties out of the 64 counties in Colorado, have been on the public website for the Secretary of State, which means they were out there for anybody to grab. | ||
She should be locked up and they should throw away the key and let me loose. | ||
Yeah, we need a prisoner swap. | ||
Yeah, for sure. | ||
So you think that this election in Colorado is definitely compromised because of the leaked passwords? | ||
Oh, always. | ||
I mean, in Mesa County, they were finding fraudulent ballots. | ||
They were finding the same person was signing the ballot envelopes, and they brushed it off like it was nothing. | ||
As a matter of fact, what Jenna Griswold did with the passwords, she knew while I was going through the trial that that was out there and did nothing. | ||
So those passwords were leaked out there during your trial before your sentencing? - Yeah. | ||
They were out there since June. | ||
But she knew about it and didn't tell the clerks about it. | ||
And now she's apologizing to the clerks. | ||
She should apologize to the American people, or at least the people in Colorado. | ||
But there are other passwords besides just for Colorado, I've heard, for the United States in there, for Dominion machines. | ||
So you think some of our other elections in other states can be compromised because of leaked passwords for the Dominion machines? | ||
Absolutely. | ||
Absolutely. | ||
That's what's going on with the cartel in Arizona and Michigan. | ||
I love you, but we've got to get you out of prison, girl. | ||
We've got to get you out of prison. | ||
We've got to get you out of prison. | ||
Let's stick to the prisoner swap, which I love. | ||
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I love them flannel. | ||
We don't need your stinking silk sheets. | ||
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We like them flannel sheets. | ||
Mike Lindell, glad you're out of the, what is it, duck blind or wherever you are. | ||
Thank you, brother. | ||
Free Tina Peters. | ||
Tina, baby, we got the prisoner swap going. | ||
You're making the most compelling argument. | ||
Let's not spread the machine. | ||
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Stop. | |
We got to get you out of prison. | ||
You're one of the best people who know it's outrageous that Colorado has you as a political prisoner. | ||
A gold star mother over 70 years old, a hero and a patriot. | ||
We'll work on that. | ||
Natalie Winters, thank you very much. | ||
You'll be back here tomorrow. | ||
It's going to be an amazing week. | ||
The Senate vote, the House vote. | ||
President Trump comes to Washington, D.C. to visit with Joe Biden. | ||
Oh, my Lord, would I like to be a fly on that wall? | ||
Can Jill keep him up? | ||
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Anyway, we'll be back here at 10 a.m. |