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Episode 4048: Cleaning House For The New Administration
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nicolle wallace
Trump is now likely to return to Washington with a trifecta to say nothing of the six to three conservative majority in the third branch of government.
We are of course talking about the Supreme Court giving Trump a potentially unprecedented grip on all the levers of political power.
All of which makes one of his first announcements as president-elect puzzling.
Trump is demanding that whoever takes the reins of the GOP caucus in the Senate agree to allow recess appointments to his cabinet.
In other words, to allow Donald Trump to bypass Senate confirmation, again, a Senate controlled by Republicans, of all of his picks.
That's despite the fact that Trump likely has a commanding majority for approval of any of his nominations.
Now, on the topic of recess appointments, CNN reports this, quote, recess appointments were once controversial, last ditch efforts for presidents to install their nominees after facing long confirmation odds in the Senate.
President George W. Bush appointed John Bolton as U.S. ambassador to the United Nations via a recess appointment, for example, as it was unlikely he would have made it through the Senate.
President Obama's attempt to use recess appointment power wound up at the Supreme Court, The Supreme Court ruled against President Obama and in favor of the GOP-led Senate.
They said Obama's appointments were unconstitutional.
It just begs the question this morning, right?
Why would such a strong, powerful president demand the use of such a weak tool used by weak presidents?
As for the three contenders to be the Senate Majority Leader, one, Rick Scott, outright endorsed the idea of allowing Trump to bypass the powers of their own chamber.
In doing so, he earned the support of Trump ally Elon Musk in his own race.
The competition, the other two guys, John Thune and John Cornyn, refused to rule out letting a president of their own party skip them and their body and use Reese's appointments instead.
So, the question is, why does Trump want to use recess appointments?
And what kind of cabinet is he assembling?
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot of all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
It's Monday, 11 November, year of the Lord, 2024, Veterans Day Day.
Right now, in between...
Today on inauguration day, you're seeing the seizure of the institutions of government by the MAGA movement and President Trump's team.
We're going to focus today on the Senate.
We've gotten tremendous feedback by the Warren Posse that have blown up the phones and filled up the voicemails.
Remember, today is a federal holiday.
Tomorrow they're back at work.
We're going to talk about this on the 10 o'clock show.
The number is 202-224-3121.
No need to call right now because it goes right to voicemail.
They're full.
Grace is going to be on here.
Talk about Bill Blaster.
You can call their local offices.
She's going to be on later.
But tomorrow, the ramparts because you're already sending shockwaves through the imperial capital.
Dr. Peter Navarro joins me.
I think it's Washington Times.
A tremendous piece that's up.
Tell me why this is a big deal.
Why did Core 9 of Texas and Thune of South Dakota represent the old and we need to bring in the new, sir?
peter navarro
And the cold open that you had raises the central question, why do you need so-called recess appointments?
Let me lay this all out with you.
Mitch McConnell the weasel.
In four years of the Trump term, friggin' Mitch McConnell, a Senate majority leader, repeatedly refused to move appointments through the process.
And the problem Donald Trump has is if you let the Senate do the confirmations, you'll have rhino Republicans holding stuff up and Chuck Schumer holding stuff up, Steve.
And the way they do it is through a number of different tools.
One is any senator can put a hold on somebody.
Two, inside a committee, they can bottle an appointee up.
And number three, Schumer in particular can wind down the spigot on the number of times that people can get through.
There's only so many hours in a day for committees to do this.
Bottom line is there's a dizzying array of appointments, Steve.
It's not just the 22 cabinet secretaries.
It's all of their deputies, undersecretaries, deputy assistant secretaries, undersecretaries.
There's literally hundreds and hundreds of people that we need Overseeing the deep swamp bureaucracy that we didn't get because of freaking Mitch McConnell.
And John Cornyn and John Thune are peas in that pod.
McConnell wants them as his puppets to stop.
They are open border, amnesty, and all sorts of anti-tariff types of people.
This is brilliant.
Here's the way it is, Steve, and I lay it out in the Washington Times article.
Please go to the Washington Times, because they put that thing right up in a timely way.
There's a clause in the law that says that If the Senate goes into recess and the president appoints, that person can stay in that position until the next time the Senate recesses.
So in this scenario, that wouldn't be for two years.
So Donald Trump, in the space of a 30-day recess, which the War Room has called for intelligently, And to do that 30-day recess within a month of Trump taking office, we'd be able to staff the bureaucracy and get off and just like a rocket ship in terms of changing things on everything.
Everything we want to do, energy, border, environment, just tariffs, everything.
And so the only way we're going to get that is to get an open vote On November 13th, two days from now, on who that Senate majority leader is going to be.
And we need to have every single candidate pledge, ironclad, Steve, ironclad, that within 30 days of Trump taking office, they will call a 30-day recess to let Donald Trump staff much of that bureaucracy and off we go.
Otherwise, it's going to be like it was in McConnell's world, which is like half the people never got confirmed and And half the people, everyone who went through that process had delays.
steve bannon
But hang on.
But hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
unidentified
I'm hanging.
steve bannon
That's fantastic, and the piece is tremendous.
And only Dr.
Navarro can write that quickly and that deeply.
This was all conceived sometime this morning, and it's out.
It's on Washington Times.
It's in Dr.
Navarro's substack, and it's brilliant.
But I want to go back in history.
In President Trump's four years, entire four years, how many times did Mitch McConnell actually allow the Senate to be in recess, sir?
peter navarro
Ah!
unidentified
Ah!
peter navarro
Zero!
And I was in the room many times when we were asking that son of a bitch to go into recess because Schumer and him together were holding things up.
The only thing that they would appoint is judges.
Fine, we need judges.
But every one of our appoints, Steve, think of it, 22 cabinet secretaries and then you've got all those layers.
Deputies, undersecretaries, assistant secretaries.
Oh, and by the way, everyone in the intelligence agencies, Steve, CIA, DNI, all of that, the ambassadors, including the ambassador to the UN, all these people have got to be confirmed.
steve bannon
Hang on.
1,000.
You have 4,000 people total that are political appointees on any government.
So Obama, Biden, Trump.
3,000 can hit the deck plates running.
Like, for instance, Peter, all the White House, none of the White House staff has to be Senate confirmed.
peter navarro
Correct.
steve bannon
They can hit the deck plates running.
peter navarro
You can go full staff.
And that's why executive orders...
steve bannon
Hang on.
Peter was...
This is why Peter was the head of trade and strategic protectionism, I call it.
Day one, he had gone with his team and he'd get cranking.
You have, as we told you before, folks, and we want to maybe start writing this down with number two pencil.
You have the landing team and the beachhead team.
The landing team, I believe, starts going in, and they should...
Right after President Trump meets with Biden on Wednesday.
I believe by Friday, Saturday, the landing team's going.
And these are seven days.
They get to know people.
It's a small team.
A beachhead team comes in basically roughly around the time of the inauguration.
And that beachhead team is going to be there to actually relieve the watch, make sure you've got things.
And then the rest of the folks come in.
That's what Peter talks.
That's 3,000 people.
Folks, 3,000 political appointees.
1,000, in addition, are Senate-confirmed.
And that is your cabinet secretaries, the undersecretaries, the assistant secretaries.
Mitch McConnell strung out the Trump administration forever.
I just want to repeat this.
This is how little Mitch McConnell trusted Donald Trump in the lack of respect.
In four years, Dr.
Navarro...
How many times was the Senate in recess?
peter navarro
It wasn't trust, brother.
He just hated what Trump wanted to do.
He's a tool of Wall Street and the rhinos.
These people before Trump in the Republican Party wore their pinstripes, went to Wall Street.
They loved open borders for cheap labor coming in.
They loved the offshore All our friggin' jobs.
Whenever we get a bunch of illegals, they want to give them amnesty.
And there it is.
And Cornyn and Thune, I mean, those guys are bad dudes, okay?
These are bad, bad anti-Trump dudes.
They tried to stop him from getting reelected.
And when he was in his first term, those were part of the McConnell mafia.
And we got that open vote, Steve.
Don't bury the lead here.
We got to get that vote open.
There's 53 senators in there.
We want to know if any of them are going to vote for guys who are going to be against Donald Trump after the most amazing landslide since Ronald Reagan.
steve bannon
So tomorrow when we call, one thing, so he says open a public vote.
If they balk into the public vote, you have to tell your senator they must come forward beforehand and say who they're going to vote for.
Tell your senator also, Benny Johnson's on it.
We're going to get what the vote is.
We've got the whip count.
And there's a lot of people today that approached me, Peter.
Dr.
Navarro said, hey, Benny Johnson, that's inaccurate.
I'm not for that person.
I said, hey, there's an easy solution.
Can you come on War Room?
And just tell us if your name's down in Thune.
No, your name's down in Core 9.
Can you come on?
Hey, not one taker.
Well, yeah, you know, I don't know.
A prerogative of the Senate.
I go, I got it, bro.
Hey, if you have a problem with Benny Johnson's list...
peter navarro
That's the way we got here.
I mean...
Look, boardroom, this is quintessential Bannon action, action, action.
We've got to turn a kind of like Pope process where they're going to go in a room and have the smoke come up and it's going to be corn in the thune.
We've got to turn that into an open ballot process.
In which all of these senators need to declare who they voted for.
And if we don't do that, we're going to lose.
So this is a two pronged attack.
We got to tell the senators that we want the recess.
And it's got to happen quickly.
OK, Donald Trump goes in to give the Senate 30 days to do all go about his business.
But then they recess for 30 days.
And then the personnel director goes in and fills As many of the 1,000 spots as he or she possibly can.
And the deep state is crushed.
unidentified
Boom!
steve bannon
Crushed.
unidentified
If that doesn't have deep states in control.
steve bannon
Hang on.
I'm going to hold you through another, just for a few minutes.
I know you've got to bounce, but I've got another question to ask you about seizing the institutions.
Johnny Kahn's going to take us out with American Heart.
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We're going to go through some turbulence.
You're seeing the names right now of people up for Secretary of Treasury, NEC, Dr.
Navarro.
You never know where he's going to show up, but he'll be fighting for the American people with tariffs and other smart domestic policy.
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I think there's seven or eight.
But more importantly, talk to Philip Patrick and the team.
Ask him, hey, Philip, we're going to do some real turbulence here.
And, you know, as Trump gets to Inauguration Day, tell me about precious metals.
Why have they been a hedge against times of financial turbulence for 5,000 years of recorded history?
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We're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to return.
We're going to let Johnny Kahn of Breitbart, one of the leaders over there, a magnificent song during the Tea Party years.
Dr. Navarro is with me.
Mike Davis is going to join us.
Eric Prince, Natalie Winner is going to be here in the second hour.
A lot to go through on a Veterans Day Monday in the Word.
Back in a moment.
unidentified
You can look inside.
'Cause I think you changed already.
You went in...
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
steve bannon
While we're on talking about finance, two things.
Number one, 90% of your net worth is tied up in your castle.
That would be your home.
If you're lucky enough...
To own one, Dr.
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But if you own one, you want to keep it.
And you particularly don't want anybody taking out a second on your title.
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Go to the site right now.
You got Natalie Dominguez over there, head of education.
She will help you out.
Find out why.
It's just not cyber anymore.
It's also maybe people close to you or people who have been in business relationships with you.
You can't let anybody get access to your title.
Because they can monetize it, and then you've got to pay it off.
HomeTitleLock.com.
Also, if you get a notification from the IRS, if you put it in the drawer, it doesn't go away.
If you put it in the drawer, it's a ticking time bomb.
The penalties are building up.
The interest is building up.
What do you do?
Go to TNUSA.com.
Go today there.
You will be completely, your anxiety will be taken away.
Because they're going to talk to you and show you how they can negotiate with the IRS to work through your tax problems.
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Navarro, the Trump 2.0 is seizing the initiative and seizing control of the institutions of government.
You have teams down, and you're down there working about confronting and deconstructing the administrative state, taking on the deep state on the executive branch.
You have, right now, we have this huge fight in the Senate.
202-224-3121.
That is for tomorrow.
They just put up the calendar.
It's going to start 9.30 on Wednesday morning.
So tomorrow is a work day for everybody.
The ramparts.
Also, there's a vote in the House, I think, last week about Johnson.
Matt Bowles and Breitbart just put up a brutal story of Johnson working overtime for a congressional candidate that, wait for it, voted to impeach Donald Trump.
I'm missing something.
Elizabeth Warren's back in the Senate.
Mike Lee, Ted Cruz, the Warriors over there have got to stop Elizabeth Warren trying to jam in, I don't know, 20, 30, 40 left-wing judges in the days ahead.
So that's the legislative branch, the judicial branch, the executive branch, Dr.
Peter Navarro.
They say that President Trump's an anti-institutionalist.
He's anything but.
Is he not, sir?
peter navarro
Look, He understands that the biggest impediment to progress in this American democracy is the ability of politicians to do things contrary to the mandates that presidents get.
Donald Trump came in in 2016 with a lot of promises, and the people who kept him fulfilling at least some of those promises We're not just Democrats, but they were the Rhino Republicans using the tools of the institution and the deep state.
We're going to see that again.
But Donald Trump, this is his second rodeo.
And in this second rodeo, he's ahead of the curve.
He knows what needs to be done.
So we have to seize.
I mean, you said this.
We were talking in the break.
You said it.
You're right, Steve.
Between now and Inauguration Day, Donald Trump could actually seize all of the bureaucracy if things go right.
And it begins tomorrow, Steve.
Tomorrow, with that pressure that we've got to put on for the November 13th vote in the Senate to have a Senate majority leader who will agree to a 30-day recess a month into the Trump term so that the president can appoint as many of the 1,000 Senate-confirmable appointees as possible so we can overthrow that, take over the institutions.
The tail in this town wags the dog every friggin' time.
And that's got to change.
steve bannon
Dr.
Navarro, we got a lot more to talk about on economics and other things.
We'll have you back, if not tomorrow, the next day.
I know you're working with the president's economic team to come up with a bunch of solutions for our problem.
Where do people get you?
Where do they get this article in the Washington Times?
Where do they get you on all your content?
peter navarro
Go to The Washington Times, support that newspaper, but peternavarro.substack.com, peternavarro.substack.com.
And don't forget the new magadeal.com.
That's the 100 actions in 100 days I have in the book that Don Jr.
and Sergio Gore published.
And if you want to know what Donald Trump's trying to do or going to do in the first 100 days, new magadeal.
All right, Steve.
Posse, it's your turn, baby.
You know what to do.
Steve's the commander-in-chief here.
Let's rile up that Senate so we get done what we need to.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate you.
Thanks for carving out time today.
peter navarro
Yes, sir.
steve bannon
I think Grace may come on in the morning.
Maybe get her with Bill Blaster.
We gotta reach out to Grace.
I want everybody to get Bill Blaster.
202-224-3121 tomorrow.
Hold your call.
Light him up tomorrow morning.
The vote is on Wednesday.
We have a cold open for Brother Davis.
Let's go and play it.
unidentified
What could he do?
And what are the people around him advocating?
Right.
So, Katie, there's a post-Watergate norm that says that presidents don't tell the Justice Department specifically which cases or which people to investigate.
And that is what the people around Donald Trump are saying should go away.
So there's a lawyer named Mark Paoletta, who's under consideration to be the next Attorney General.
He's a conservative lawyer, friend of Clarence Thomas and his wife, Ginny Thomas.
And he has written and has been arguing in recent days that the law does not say anything about whether the president can and does, in fact, allow the president to order the Justice Department to investigate specific people.
And he's right about that.
This post-Watergate tradition is just that, a tradition, a norm.
It's not enshrined in law.
So he's setting the stage, laying the groundwork for this kind of move.
And then you have another conservative lawyer named Mike Davis, who's actually advising the Trump transition.
And he's a real bomb thrower.
He does this with delight.
But he has been publicly calling for investigations into Tish James, the New York Attorney General, into Jack Smith.
He's talking about throwing these people in jail.
He's talking about dragging their political bodies through the streets using all kinds of inflammatory rhetoric and delighting in it.
The bottom line here is that you've got a lot of people advising Donald Trump who are saying you need to use the Justice Department to go after your enemies just as you said you would in the campaign.
Now, whether that happens, of course, remains to be seen.
It's easy to throw this rhetoric around now during the transition period.
We'll have to see whether he actually goes through with it.
But it seems like it's a real possibility.
I'm trying to put that Mike Davis social media post, ex-post, back up on the screen.
He says, here's my current mood.
Again, this is from November 6th.
Here's my current mood.
I want to drag their dead political bodies through the streets, burn them, and throw them off the wall, legally, politically, and financially, of course.
Followed up that tweet with, dear Jack Smith, lawyer up.
Who is Mike Davis?
He calls himself, he wants to be Donald Trump's viceroy.
That's the term he uses.
Representation of the king is what the viceroy is.
I just lost audio, Katie, but I think you asked me who is Mike Davis.
Mike Davis is a conservative lawyer who's been running a nonprofit helping to install conservative judges.
And he he is absolutely calling for the prosecution of all these people.
And he's setting the stage really for a special counsel, for example, to go over every email and every text and every memo that Jack Smith and his team ever wrote looking for things that are embarrassing.
Assuming they didn't break the law, which is kind of hard to believe, it still could cause a lot of pain for Jack Smith, for anybody who opposed Donald Trump.
And it will cause people to have to spend money on legal fees.
That's exactly what happened when John Durham did the same thing about the Mueller investigation.
And that's certainly the least of what could happen now.
steve bannon
The least of what could happen.
Mike Davis, why is the Viceroy saying mean things?
Why are you saying mean things to Tish James?
And why are you saying mean things to Jack Smith?
You strike me as a kind-hearted Irishman.
Why are you saying mean things?
mike davis
Well, I have not had a chance to watch that clip, Steve, so I'm actually laughing watching that.
I would say this to Jack Smith and these other Democrat operatives who waged their unprecedented lawfare and election interference against President Trump.
His top aides like you, Steve, who went to prison.
Peter Navarro, who was just on, who went to prison.
Trump's January 6th supporters who were politically persecuted.
If you've done nothing wrong, what are you worried about, right?
You know, nobody's above the law, as you like to say.
A thorough investigation by the Justice Department's Office of Professional Responsibility The Justice Department's Office of Inspector General, the Justice Department's Criminal Division, the House Judiciary Committee, the Senate Judiciary Committee, the House Appropriation Committee, the House Oversight Committee, the Senate Oversight Committee.
After those thorough reviews, if you've done nothing wrong, you shouldn't be sweating right now.
steve bannon
No, and that's it.
You've got the internal affairs, basically OPR. Explain OPR as internal affairs of the Justice Department.
They're like the cops, the legal cops inside.
Tell us, how would Jack Smith, as you see it from the outside, how do you think he would fare with the IG, OPR, the criminal division, and then on the Hill, with both House and Senate Judiciary, House and Senate Oversight, sir?
mike davis
Well, there's clearly coordination between these various offices.
As we've laid out, Joe Biden's fingerprints are on all four of these unprecedented criminal indictments.
They're talking about norms and breaking norms at the Justice Department.
They brought the first indictment ever against a former and likely future president, and they did it four different times, right?
And we had Jonathan Su, Biden's deputy White House counsel, waive Trump's claim of executive Privilege on behalf of President Biden, which led to Jack Smith, the Mar-a-Lago raid, the January 6th case, you had Matthew Colangelo deploying from the Biden Harris Justice Department, the number three political appointee to Bragg's office to bring that bogus indictment.
You had Nathan Wade from Fannie Willis' office down in Fulton County, Georgia, billing his time.
16 hours, $250 an hour, $4,000 for his meetings with the Biden-Harris White House, including the Biden-Harris White House Council.
And the problem with Jack Smith, he has several problems besides the obvious political coordination.
steve bannon
Hang on.
Hang on.
Mike, hang on for one second.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to return.
We've got Mike Davis.
Mike Davis not only on MSNBC all day.
Mike Davis leads the coverage in our beloved New York Times.
Trump is pulled towards two paths on retribution.
Retribution next with Mike Davis and the Warren.
Cause Jesus puts all the light in you Little children in a straight line Don't fall behind my nose The television's only meant to indoctrinate the mind Okay, Trump is pulled towards two paths on retribution.
Revenge versus unity.
You see that?
The lead story, the right-hand column.
Revenge versus unity.
And you turn back to page A16, and look what we have.
The rest of the story and our own Mike Davis is right there.
He would be in the revenge column.
And, of course, Jay Clayton, former head of SEC, Solomon Cromwell, he's in the unity column.
Yeah.
weighing revenge two ways and has pulled down two paths.
Is really the president thinking of revenge, sir?
mike davis
You know, I've never had those discussions with him, so I can't say that he's thinking that way.
I would say this, that nobody's above the law, and if these Democrat prosecutors and operatives engaged in an illegal criminal conspiracy against rights under 18 U.S.C. Section 241, they should face consequences for it.
And if they've done nothing wrong, I don't understand why they're so nervous.
I mean, Jack Smith is very familiar with 18 U.S.C. Section 241 because he used that as one of his charges against President Trump and Jack Smith's bogus January 6th indictments against President Trump.
And I would say this.
Remember Jack Smith?
Settle along that the election has nothing to do with what he's doing.
He disregarded Justice Department policies about taking actions as a prosecutor.
As we get close to an election, he said, you know, the election be damned.
This has nothing to do with politics.
Then I asked this.
Why did Jack Smith, the day after the election, when President Trump beat Kamala Harris like a drum in a landslide victory, why then did Jack Smith leak out that he's going to shut down his office?
I thought that the election had nothing to do with what Jack Smith was doing.
So it seems to me That's an omission by Jack Smith that everything he was doing was about welfare and election interference, and that's pretty clear.
The Mar-a-Lago raid was a political hit on President Trump to go get back President Trump's declassified crossfire hurricane records that are so damning to Obama and Biden and Hillary and the FBI and the AG and the CIA and so many others in the deep state.
Jay Bratt is very familiar with that.
Jay Bratt is the counselor You also have to ask, why did Jack Smith bring a separate indictment against the same defendant under current prosecution in D.C.? And the answer is very clear.
Didn't like the fact that he drew Judge Cannon on the presidential records case down in the Southern District of Florida.
So Jack Smith did this unprecedented thing.
He brought a separate indictment in a separate venue against the same defendant at the same time, which it seems like That would be a violation of Justice Department policy.
So Jack Smith is going to have a lot of questions to answer after January 20th.
And I would say that after the Congress comes back into session on January 3rd or whenever it is, I think that the House Judiciary Committee led by House Chairman Jim Jordan and the Senate Judiciary Committee led by my former boss, former Chairman Chuck Grassley, they should get to work.
Chairman Chuck Grassley is the king of oversight.
He's already been on this crossfire hurricane stuff for many years, and he'll continue that investigation.
And I strongly encourage Jim Jordan to get moving immediately.
He's already sent his litigation hold letter to Jack Smith, which I think is great.
I would say to Jack Smith and his Office of Special Counsel and everyone else in the Biden-Harris Justice Department, Make sure you preserve your records.
We don't want you to obstruct justice by destroying your records.
And as we've been saying, if you've done nothing wrong, you should have nothing to sweat about.
steve bannon
Mike, you came out of the Senate and you're an expert in confirmations because you really, you know, led the way with Gorsuch and Kavanaugh.
Talk to me about this Senate leadership vote.
Why is it so important?
Should it be private or public?
I mean, we're pushing for public disclosure where the votes are.
And what is this, what's this concept about recess appointments and why is that a big deal?
mike davis
Well, the recess appointments would be great because remember the last time, Steve, you're very well aware of this, and I was very well aware of this on the Senate Judiciary Committee as the Chief Counsel for Nominations.
The Democrats used the crossfire hurricane Russian collusion hoax to try to grind President Trump's first term to a halt.
And they did that very successfully In the Senate, it took years to confirm several of President Trump's nominees, and that's just unacceptable.
And I think what President Trump is calling for is whoever's going to be the leader to commit to using recess appointments.
Put the Senate into recess if the Democrats are using their typical obstruction tactics, because the Democrats...
Are election deniers and they're already trying to run coups, as we're seeing, to undermine President Trump when he gets back into office on January 20th.
So this is an important test for whoever wants to be the Senate majority leader, whether it's Thune or Cornyn.
Or anyone else who wants to run, it's very important to commit to this because we cannot let Democrats and stupid, weak-kneed Republicans who got duped on Russian collusion to get duped again and try to grind Russia.
Trump's agenda to a halt.
The American people spoke very loudly and clearly last Tuesday.
Trump won in a landslide victory, all seven swing states, 312 electoral votes, and he pulled several Republican Senate candidates over the finish line with him.
He has a mandate, and the Senate Republicans can't be in his way again like they were at the beginning of his term in 2017.
steve bannon
McConnell, in the four years of President Trump's first term, never had the Senate in recess, ever.
How big an act of disrespect is that, sir?
mike davis
Well, I mean, the Senate does have an independent role to make sure the nominees are, you know, they get advice and consent of the Senate.
But I don't understand why we had a different rule for President Trump than we did for prior presidents.
And I think that's important.
Look, I worked very closely with McConnell on judges.
He did a great job on judges.
I would say this to the next...
Majority Leader, if you want President Trump's support, you saw his tweet.
He wants to be very clear that he wants the ability to do recess appointments if Democrats are obstructing his nominations like they did last time.
Either keep the Senate.
Frankly, Steve, as you know, all you have to do is merely threaten to make senators work past 2 o'clock on Thursday.
And it's amazing how many judges and executive branch employees you can confirm.
Law resistance cannot resist long weekends.
I promise you, keep their asses in there.
After 2 o'clock on Thursday, you'll get anyone confirmed.
I could probably get confirmed if you threatened to make them work on Friday.
steve bannon
That is something.
Real quickly, Elizabeth Warren is sounding the fire bell on the night to the Democrats.
She wanted everybody to head back Tuesday night when Trump was declared the winner, saying, we've got, I don't know, 10, 20, 30, 40 judges.
Judge openings for these progressive judges, they're not done.
She's telling Schumer it's got to be 24-7.
Walk me through, how did they leave this much work done, and what does the Republican Senate, the Mike Lees and the Ted Cruz's have to do to make sure that they don't jam in one judge between now and the time President Trump takes over?
mike davis
So as Cameron brings this up, it's article3project.org.
We have a take action page, and we have a take action on this very issue, Steve, where we want the war room posse to light up, take action there, light up their senators, and then tell them to grind the Senate to a halt.
We're not going to let...
Joe Biden and Senate Democrats in this lame duck session when they're both leaving power confirm lifetime judges, these critically important lifetime judges.
We are going to wait until President Trump is back in office, until Senate Republicans are back in office.
So Senate Republicans need to throw sand in the gears and do whatever the hell it takes to stop These lame duck confirmations of these critically important federal judges.
And I call him—he doesn't know I'm doing this—but I call on my friend, Senator Mike Lee from Utah.
You are the perfect person to take the lead on this, the tip of the spear, grind the Senate to a halt.
We don't want to put these left-wing radicals on the bench for the rest of their lives.
The American people spoke on Tuesday.
They voted for Trump.
Overwhelmingly, they voted for Senate Republicans with a comfortable majority, and hell no to left-wing judges.
Grind the Senate to a hold.
I think that's something that can unite all factions of the Senate Republican caucus, including Mitch McConnell.
steve bannon
Extraordinary.
Mike Davis, you're everywhere right now, and this fight is so important on the judiciary side, obviously on the Senate side, but in the judiciary, we must stop them jamming through these judges.
Mike, where do people go to, once again, Article 3, they want to be a part of that.
Where do they go?
mike davis
Yeah, I'm not even going into government.
I'm not going back into government.
I'm sticking with the Article 3 Project.
So I love that I have these guys in just meltdown, fear, terror.
It's article3project.org, article3project.org.
You can donate there, you can follow us on social media, and you can take action like grind the Senate to a halt on these lame duck judicial confirmations.
steve bannon
Mike Davis, honor to have you on here.
Thank you very much, sir.
mike davis
Thank you.
steve bannon
Okay, let's hit reset for a moment.
This audience, being the tip of the spear, the kind of vanguard or the cadres in leadership in the grassroots movement, We're, I think, the major element or one of the most major elements in the Great Victory in the Fifth, supporting President Trump with this massive get-out-the-vote effort, coupled with others, then others signed up and did the Election Integrity Project.
This is why they had...
This is why we had so many poll watchers and poll workers and judges.
I heard from...
I think it was Deloes in Virginia, the first time they had 100% capacity in election judges, election officials, poll workers, poll watchers, all of it.
Normally it's 20%.
100%.
You saw this throughout the country.
So you guys have earned your seat at the table.
I would love to sit here and talk about fun things and all that, but we've got more work to do.
Two-fold.
When you look at the institutions of institutional power, what President Trump is trying to do, he's trying to institutionalize MAGA. He's trying to institutionalize his political revolution.
How is he doing it?
He's going to embed it into the three major branches of government.
The legislative, the executive, and the judiciary.
We have to, and that's tomorrow, put these senators on notice that it's not acceptable to have a secret ballot that you demand as their constituents to understand who they voted for and why.
They have to understand that President Trump needs at least the ability to have some recess appointments.
May not need them.
Just wants in his back pocket, as he should.
He's trying to mitigate his risk.
And that the new leader of the Senate is aligned on other policies he's going to have coming through because there's massive issues about the debt ceiling and about the budget and the deficits and the deportations.
All of that has to be worked through, and he needs a Senate leader that he can trust and work with.
In addition, these judges.
I'll get to that in a second.
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Okay, put a pin in what I was talking about the Senate.
I'm going to come back to that in the next hour.
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We're going to drill down this.
I'm honored to have Eric Prince join me.
You're actually in town.
In fact, you're going to go over to the Senate and talk to the...
eric prince
The new Republican senators.
steve bannon
To the new senators.
eric prince
Exciting stuff.
steve bannon
And what is your general...
What's the discussion?
Why would you bring the Dark Prince over to talk to...
Come on now.
eric prince
I think it's to give a tour of the world and the real challenges.
steve bannon
How can you...
You've got a sunny personality.
Your personality is like a young kid.
I am.
eric prince
I'm optimistic.
steve bannon
You're always optimistic.
You're upbeat.
You're high energy.
eric prince
Dude, we just won the election last week.
steve bannon
No, I know that.
eric prince
And now the hard work comes.
I know.
unidentified
Okay.
Okay.
eric prince
But there's a lot of problems around the world that can be fixed.
steve bannon
But you're always upbeat.
Always.
eric prince
Usually, yeah.
steve bannon
You're always upbeat.
eric prince
That's good.
steve bannon
Okay.
So what are you going to talk to them about?
eric prince
A tour of the world.
steve bannon
What is it?
Tour de Horizon?
Is that what you're called?
eric prince
Something like that, yeah.
A tour of the problem areas and the real problem of collapsing American credibility and how our enemies...
Smell it and have been advancing in all fronts, and it's time to roll that back with a very small footprint, mostly commercial, and it doesn't require any more U.S. troops and any more government spending.
steve bannon
You do this with contractors and others.
unidentified
Correct.
eric prince
It's as old as history.
And the U.S., I think, has proven over 20-odd years that we're not great at stability operations.
We've spent trillions of dollars doing it.
And I would say a lot of parts of the world would be actually calmer if the State Department just got the hell out of the way.
steve bannon
The first time I really heard the Viceroy and the concept of the Viceroy was Eric Prince.
It was the summer of 2017.
And you had an idea about how to turn Afghanistan around without a bigger American footprint by essentially a massive rationalization.
eric prince
There was still 15,000 US troops there and 29,000 contractors.
And I want to take it down to 6,000 contractors.
And zero or a handful of U.S. troops remaining.
And it would have kept the lights on for the Afghan government.
And really, after three years, the whole program would have been paid for by the royalties from mining and the hydrocarbons, etc., that the U.S. really ever failed to get a grasp on.
So a third of the Taliban's operating budget was from mining, which the Afghan government never really capitalized on.
steve bannon
They were rare earths, principally.
eric prince
Yes, and copper and fluoride and gold.
Yeah.
steve bannon
What is—as they're putting together the landing teams and the beachhead teams and working through—and they're talking about who's DOD. We know it's now not Pompeo.
I think at State Department, the shortlist is Senator Rubio, Hagerty, Rick Grinnell, some other people.
What is your recommendation?
When you look at DOD and you look at that massive military-industrial-intelligence complex, what's your advice to the Trump people, because I know you're very close to these guys, about how do you go about getting our arms around?
Because we just can't continue to add to the defense budget all the time.
It's almost a trillion dollars now.
It's out of control.
eric prince
The essential information that's missing from any actual decision-maker at the Pentagon is what do things actually cost.
And so if they actually even did a back-of-the-napkin estimate of activity-based costing to say, how much does it cost us when we say we're going to send a brigade of soldiers here, there, everywhere to actually do the cost the same way a private contractor has to if you're going to do a bid?
Every flag officer, every senior DOD official I've ever met with has never fully understood what that even looks like or costs like.
And so they're stunned when I can come back in a matter of an hour with a plus or minus 3% to 5% of where their costs are.
That's the essential information.
What does Hayek and Mises talk about?
Socialism really is the absence of price information.
Because if you don't understand what something is priced at, you have no way to value it as to scarcity and how much you value it.
steve bannon
We need a whole process of price discovery?
Don't we actually need, in addition, not so many programs and not be spread out over hell's head?
eric prince
That goes without saying.
120-some bases and just a sloth cost footprint that is so ridiculous that they can't get I'm so concerned about the bases, but like in the Red Sea, we have two carrier battle groups to keep the Suez Canal open.
And it's not open.
It's 90% shut.
That's the thing.
It's a complete and total failure.
They're just sitting there expending their...
Not one, but two million, you know, they have to shoot two $1 million missiles each to knock down a $20,000 drone, because they double tap it.
That's just bad math.
A private solution, it's the same way it was solved in the 60s when the Brits hired David Sterling, who cleaned up, cleaned out the Egyptians after they invaded.
And that can be done again, organized with...
steve bannon
Down in Yemen, right?
eric prince
Correct.
To drive them off the coast.
steve bannon
They also did the same thing in Oman, if I remember.
eric prince
100%.
steve bannon
It was like the man who would be king crowd, right?
I don't want to call them mercenaries, but they were just down there doing contractor work.
eric prince
David Sterling was there as a mercenary, absolutely, did it proudly, and saved it.
steve bannon
Okay, we have two carrier battle groups there about rotating in and out in the Red Sea, helping at least the entries to the Suez Canal stay open, although the canal's not open, Tom.
But I believe, and correct me if I'm wrong, we have one British frigate, an Italian corvette, and a French destroyer.
NATO's entire...
eric prince
It's a joke.
It's a joke.
And what's the first thing you learned when you became a naval officer?
Power projection, choke point control.
We have lost control of one of the world's major shipping lanes.
And so the U.S. Navy right now has been jolted into ineffectiveness by Houthis who are behaving like long-range pirates.
And this administration has done nothing effective to put the Houthis in a different frame of mind.
steve bannon
But the choke point...
This is a NATO choke point for Europe.
It's a short commercial break.
Eric's heading over to the Senate on Capitol Hill to talk to incoming freshmen about geopolitics, hot spots throughout the world, and what they should be thinking about on the budget going forward.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
Natalie Winter's going to join me next hour.
Eric's going to hang out for a few minutes.
I've got a couple of three more questions.
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