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WarRoom Battleground EP 649: Fight Against The Militant Minority
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steve bannon
This is what you're fighting for.
I mean, every day you're out there.
What they're doing is blowing people off.
If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians get total control and total power.
Because this is just like in Arizona.
This is just like in Georgia.
It's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations.
This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.
As we've told you, this is the fight.
unidentified
All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
War Room.
Battleground.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
This call represents a wide cross-section of the United Front that's been organizing for many, many months if not years to block the authoritarian takeover of this country.
We have to strategically prepare to defy the MAGA agenda.
And Trump would like us to believe that our power was evaporated in a single night.
And that is simply not true.
Look around us.
I think we have 100,000, over 100,000 people RSVP'd for this call tonight.
I just want to pause and highlight the fact that Joe Biden is still president until January 20 at noon.
And one thing that the Biden administration can do to help us in our upcoming fight is pursue all available executive actions to safeguard the long-term health of our democracy.
He can prioritize actions that will protect vulnerable individuals and communities who we know will be targeted by the Trump administration.
He can protect career civil servants and government institutions that serve the people of the United States, and he can advance national security actions that will protect the public.
Some folks have started calling this time period, these three months, YOLO Joe or You Only Live Once Joe.
Credit to our friends at the Center for American Progress and ACLU for this name and for thinking through what actions the administration can take in these months to protect democracy before Trump comes in.
So to help this effort, we're encouraging everyone on this call to sign a petition, making this ask to Biden and his team.
Stay tuned for a link to this.
That elections are a tactic.
Elections are a tactic.
They do not solve our problems.
The elections create the conditions under which we will continue to organize and build our base.
Our strategy is determined by the time continuum.
jamie raskin
This has got to be an impetus for us to get more engaged and more focused, more analytical and more creative and nimble in our strategies of dealing with a very complicated situation.
unidentified
And we must, in this moment, Not back down from waging militant, disruptive, organizing campaigns.
The first around the reminder that Biden is still the president.
And one thing he can do before he leaves is confirm more judges.
Buenas noches.
My name is Greisa Martinez Rosas.
I'm undocumented, unafraid, queer, and unashamed.
That's our mission.
That's our work right now, comrades.
Let's get to it.
steve bannon
Oh my lord.
unidentified
Welcome back.
steve bannon
You're in the war room battleground.
Our own Natalie Winters watched six hours of that today to come up with this.
I lost the IQ points today.
You deserve a spa day.
I think we're calling for you.
natalie winters
Worse than MSNBC. But this was the infamous, much-hyped Zoom organizing YouTube call that all the Resistance 2.0 activists were hopping on that we talked about about two days ago.
They had the organizer of it on MSNBC last night.
Watch it went through.
They had sort of a who's who of all the myriad of progressive groups coming together.
And let's just say they are back with a frickin' vengeance.
It was put on by the Working Families Party.
And I think the buried leads coming out of the call, 140,000 people signed up to watch it.
steve bannon
Wow.
natalie winters
Throughout the course of the night, thousands of people signed up to host their meetings and their training sessions.
To get trained up for, we don't quite know what, though, like that lady said.
steve bannon
But militant disruptive organizing.
natalie winters
Militant disruptive organizing, co-signed by Jamie Raskin, who you saw, was also on there.
But this one in particular was four hours long.
And they started out, you know, nice-ish face, physiognomy aside, coloring within the lines.
And I kid you not, by the end of it, like you saw, we ended the montage.
They're calling each other comrade.
steve bannon
So McGinley, you see what we're up against.
The mask is coming off.
Raskin and these guys are, you know, he's a red diaper baby.
They're all commies.
And you see the way commies...
The commies only know one thing, smash mouth.
What did they say?
Voting is only a tactic?
natalie winters
It's only a tactic.
steve bannon
It's only a tactic.
Bill McGinley, your thoughts?
unidentified
Look, these are the same people...
That's a rule of law for me but not for thee.
They're the ones that come in and say we're going to do a sanctuary city or sanctuary state.
We're going to completely disregard federal law even though federal law occupies the field on immigration.
So they selectively pick and choose which laws they want to file to suit their progressive agenda.
They're not fooling anybody.
The American people spoke on Tuesday night resoundingly.
President Trump not only had a historic Electoral College victory, but he also won the popular vote.
It's a mandate.
And these people are all out there organizing and trying to thwart the will of the people.
And remember, we've got more tools in the toolbox now than we had before.
Chevron deference is gone.
Which means that these agency regulations that the Biden administration put in place, without a sufficient basis, are going to be vulnerable to lawsuits.
Don't forget, if they try to rush everything through during the next tens of days before January 20, don't forget about the Congressional Review Act.
If we're going to control the House and the Senate, a lot of these agency regulations Are going to be repealed by the Republican House and the Republican Senate.
Also, you know, they're going to go out and they're going to take all these taxpayer funds, you know, funds from taxpayers who do not agree with their progressive agenda, and try and use it to hire outside law firms to try and keep them in place.
I mean, this is distorting the will of the people.
This is election denialism from the left.
These are a group of people and individuals and state office holders who have no desire to let the people speak to determine the direction of this country.
The people spoke resoundingly.
Donald John Trump will be the 47th President of the United States on January 20, and they're just going to have to deal with it.
The judiciary is a lot more conservative than it was during the beginning of the first term, and it's going to be quite a fight, but it's a fight that I think we all welcome.
natalie winters
And two more points just on the sort of Trump proofing aspect of it.
Just today, the Biden regime stealthily announced that they're going to allow defense and military contractors to go into Ukraine, which is a move they hadn't previously done.
To me, it sort of reeks of a limited hangout of putting boots on the ground there.
But also in the Washington Post, they have Reporting, particularly when it comes to the EPA's efforts to sort of Trump-proof.
And they highlighted a couple different policy proposals.
One, they want to ensure that California can ban all gas-powered cars come 2035.
Also interesting with the news today breaking that the EU wants to start buying its LNG from the United States and not Russia.
There's a big study, I guess, the Biden regime has been working on to try to disprove LNG, talk about how it decimates the environment.
They want that study to be released to sort of be able to be used as a cudgel by these activists against President Trump and sort of work preemptively to restrict what they say is fossil fuel exploration in Alaska.
I'm curious your thoughts.
You know, the term civil society is something that is really being pumped and hyped up.
By the left, the lawfare ability to push back on these guys aside, how do you think, you know, the mass mobilization?
I'm just looking at Ari Melber's show right now.
He's highlighting how the Women's March is already organizing their counterinsurgency, their counterprogramming for January 20th.
How do we sort of push back against that?
unidentified
Look, this is the militant minority organizing to try and make as much noise as possible.
What was it?
It's over 74 million people voted for President Trump.
They want a new era of freedom.
They want a de-reg agenda to be implemented so that small businesses can thrive and hire more workers.
They want a booming job-creating economic prosperity.
And that's exactly what President Trump's going to deliver.
They want common sense foreign policy.
They don't want the United States to get dragged into endless wars that the American people are not prepared to support.
I mean, what they're trying to do is what the Obama administration did.
Steve, if you remember, right before we took power In 2017, with the midnight regulations and all of the other bureaucratic tactics that they employed.
They're not going to work this time.
We are going to be prepared, and I think that the Trump administration that comes in is going to be able to dislodge and withdraw and pull back all of these wrong-headed policies, whether it's on the international stage or domestically, that they're planning to put in.
You know, fool me once, You know, shame on you.
Fool me twice.
Shame on me.
I don't think the Trump administration is going to fall for it this time.
And I think everybody's going to be prepared.
natalie winters
Certainly post, I guess, first Trump impeachment, that lawfare, I think galvanized President Trump to get PPO, his personnel operation, in check.
So I can only imagine what the lawfare they've held against him for the last four years is going to do.
But to that point, the ACLU, they finally released Sort of the beginning, the opening salvo of their battle plan, their action plan to push back against the Trump agenda.
The first bullet point being, of course, as you called it, Steve, the mass deportations.
But their second point was something that I think is sort of a buried lead, quote, provide legal defense to whistleblowers and critics who dare to stand up to Trump's Policies, of course, dovetailing with the Office of Special Counsel, sort of reworking the guidelines, the regulatory release policies when it comes to releasing whistleblower reports.
I'm just curious your thoughts on how we sort of become, for lack of a better word, a bulwark against political subversion coming in the form of whistleblowers and leaks and just sort of the craziness that plagued the first term.
unidentified
Yeah, well, this is the tactics that the Obama administration employed.
Which was taking very partisan, very progressive political appointees and burrowing them into the bureaucracy to do their bidding, even though the American people had elected Donald Trump.
They're going to try this again.
So what they're going to do is try and weaponize those embeds that they're going to put into the bureaucracy.
But have no fear.
I don't know if everybody saw the statement that President Trump Released the other night, he talked about the civil service reforms and a lot of the stuff that's going to happen because American people want a smaller, smarter,
more responsive federal government, which means civil service reform, so that we don't keep paying people who claim to be working from home that aren't doing anything, and also to make sure that when an election occurs that the policies reflect The Article II officers that the American people select through the Electoral College.
That would be the President and Vice President of the United States.
And so the ACLU, a private organization, which, by the way, used to be a very principled organization, but now has become basically a partisan actor to enact the progressive agenda.
You know, when they come out with their policies, they're coordinating with all of the other Damn dark money groups that live below the surface that finance all of this.
We're ready.
We're on to them.
I think President Trump, in his second administration, is not going to fall for a lot of the traps that they have set for him.
steve bannon
Before we let you go, Bill, you've been the head of election integrity.
You've been with us now for four or five years.
I know President Trump thinks very highly of you.
You were cabinet secretary in the first Trump administration.
People are talking about all types of potential jobs for you.
How do you think President Trump...
And the transition team, not after you guys take office on the 20th, but how should they respond to...
You've got the Defense Department saying, we're prepared to handle any lawful orders.
You've got these states, California, Illinois, New York, Massachusetts, going through right now and trying to make sure that they can de-trumpify...
natalie winters
Trump-proof.
steve bannon
Trump-proof.
There are states.
You've got things that the Biden regime is doing.
We know that they're trying to let a million illegal aliens in here in the next couple of months.
They're talking about jamming through federal judges.
Maybe all types of things they're doing on the...
On the geopolitical and military side, I'm hearing rumors and people writing about now the things with Israel that may even try to recognize Palestine.
What would your advice be to President Trump about how to handle all of this?
Because they're coming.
The resistance now is having conference calls with 100,000 people on it, talking about militant, disruptive They're getting worked up every day.
MSNBC is working them up.
Trump's a racist.
All these policies on the deportations are anti-American, xenophobic nativists.
What would be your advice?
unidentified
A couple of things.
Number one, sunshine is the greatest disinfectant.
And I think from the transition team needs to start cataloging all of the misdeeds that are happening down in the states with the resistance.
Some of these damn dark money groups that are happening and what their agenda is and what their action plans are that they're doing because the average American is completely unaware.
And I think that President Trump is one of the greatest communicators we've seen in our lifetime.
And I think that the transition team is able to bring sunshine to some of these things so that the American people have better understanding of what the challenges are going to be in the first days.
And also to make sure that, as you always say, Steve, personnel is policy.
Making sure that you've got the really smart, competent, loyal people who go into the administration who are willing to fight the good fight for the American people and President Trump's agenda.
The American people have spoken.
It's time for his agenda to take over and to give people the freedom that they want.
The Democrats tried to hijack the word freedom during the campaign.
But if you look at the past three and a half, four years, it's been anything but freedom.
It's really been, you know, as we've talked about, a very heavy-handed, government-centric, American people can't do for themselves what they want to do.
And I think that, you know, President Trump bringing the sunshine to this and exposing it, and frankly, with great programs like the War Room continuing to do that as well, I think the American people are not going to fall for the same tricks.
natalie winters
On the topic of dark money, I do think that that's such a connective tissue.
It allows the deep state to essentially treat these NGOs like subcontractors and outsource their agenda.
Getting granular, I think if we could unmask who is funding so many of these groups, that could be one of the most transformational things that President Trump does for the sake of this country.
Is that something that there's a special counsel, a special investigative body that you think comes from the White House?
Or is this something that Congress needs to look into?
How do you think is the best way that we could go about doing that?
unidentified
I think, number one, I think, you know, if like people like yourself, Natalie, and others who are actually investigative journalists should lay the predicate and groundwork for that.
I think that Congress has a great role to play in all of this because, you know, it's hard to tell where the Biden administration ends and a lot of the dim, dark money groups begin.
They're really, you know, hand in glove and playing from the same sheet of music.
And it's an incredibly important topic that needs to be discussed because while the Democrats will go out and say that, you know, Republicans are the party of big money, we don't have any money that comes even close to what the Democrats have at their disposal spread across the whole spectrum of organizations that all have specific roles to play In the resistance,
you know, Democracy Alliance, right after President Trump was elected in 2016, got together, did an after-action report, and completely retooled itself so that they could have the resistance map with all of the different organizations filling specific roles.
And I think when you begin to look at that and you begin to understand that this isn't some organic populist groundswell I think the American people are going to begin to understand how politics has really worked for the past eight years, and I think it's going to be very eye-opening for them.
So I think, you know, all of these groups that claim to be fighting for, you know, the working man and woman And some of their other constituencies are, in fact, billionaire finance resistance organizations to try and thwart what the people wanted and voted for in this election.
steve bannon
Do you think, look, you became an expert over the last couple of years in really looking at these dark money groups after you and Raheem broke the Mark Elias' Election Integrity Project back in July of 2020.
We're talking about a special counsel.
I haven't had a chance to catch up with it.
There's talk about a special counsel to really give more, I think, gravitas and heft to this investigation of Jack Smith than even Jordan's Judiciary Committee.
Do you think they also ought to start looking at situations like this, that if a special counsel is set up, let's say, for weaponization of government, that it not only looks into Jack Smith and Merrick Garland's activities, but starts to look into this interconnection between these billionaires, dark money groups?
natalie winters
And the ActBlue smurfing the small-dollar donors.
unidentified
Exactly.
steve bannon
The ActBlue coupled with these radical groups that right now are pushing militant, disruptive organizations, sir.
unidentified
So, Steve, you know me.
I'm a pretty sober guy when it comes to topics like this.
I'm not prepared to say that there is one course of action that should be taken with respect to anything.
But I do think that there are a number of topics that need To have a pretty close look at, whether it's through Congress, through potential legislation, whether it's through agencies with potential rulemakings.
But I do think that there are a number of topics that need to be examined.
And if the facts lead to something, let's call it, more consequential, then I would be fully supportive.
But I really think that, you know, the American people need to understand How the Democrats have played in elections and policy and comms and opposition research and, you know, some of the, you know, astroturf, fake, you know, state-based news organizations and everything else.
We've talked about on the show, you know, in 2016, or excuse me, in 2020, when you look at the top national organizations that the Democrats had financed, The amount of money that was transferred in grants, in the form of grants, just between those top organizations was well over $650 million.
I mean, the amount of money that they had flowing through these organizations in 2020, and we're not going to know about 24 until November of next year when they have to file their 990s, I think it's going to be pretty eye-popping.
You know, but I also think that there's going to be a lot of Democratic donors and operatives and supporters who are going to be asking a lot of questions because Kamala Harris raised and spent a billion dollars through her campaign in the DNC only to lose the popular vote and have an electoral college wipeout.
So, ironically, it could be that the call comes from within the House for some of these folks who are wondering where the hell the money went and what it was spent on.
And so, you know, some of this is, you know, we should let them kind of come after each other a little bit, but that should not stop investigative journalists like Natalie and others from doing the great work that they do to really kind of dig into this.
steve bannon
Bill, I really appreciate it.
I know you've been traveling.
Mar-a-Lago, you're only home for a short while.
You've been having the presidents back the entire time.
The audience wants to thank you for all the great work you've been doing.
Social media, how do people track you over the weekend, sir?
unidentified
Sure.
On X at WJMcGinley and on Getter at McGinleyWJ.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate you.
unidentified
Yeah, thanks for having me on.
steve bannon
So you and BD and Benz and Rahim have done a great job of laying this kind of intellectual framework, the framing device of the color revolution.
Now we're seeing it in a play.
These people don't wait.
Look, they were shocked and stunned on Tuesday night, on Wednesday, Wednesday afternoon.
We're Friday, and they're up and rolling.
They're putting up a real resistance, to wit.
They got forces deployed in Pennsylvania.
And they're going to make the Pennsylvania situation with McCormick, or Senator-elect McCormick's call, as painful as possible.
They're in Arizona right now, and trust me, they're going to try to bleed Carrie Lake out there, okay?
Because these people, unlike the Republicans, they get out there even when they don't have a shot and make life miserable.
And you see right here with the $100,000 call and the money coming in, They're starting an act of resistance.
They're already focused, as we said, on the point of contact, which would be the deportations, but they're playing a much broader game, and now they're going on offense.
They want judges confirmed.
Heck, they want to do a Supreme Court justice.
They got the Pentagon involved, the deep state, the administrative state.
As I told this audience...
They're coming.
And they're going to come hard.
As the woman said, the election is just a tactic.
For the people that love democracy, she said it's just a tactic.
So they're on to the next thing.
Natalie Winters.
natalie winters
They want to lay landmines in the White House, right?
Probably, literally.
unidentified
I want to read you a tweet, though, from Dean Obidala, who's always over at MSNBC. Dean Obidala, Sirius XM. He was at Sirius XM, I think, when I was there.
natalie winters
Well, I think Sirius XM is going to have to drop him.
steve bannon
He has the Muslim American...
natalie winters
Yes, because he's an election denier now.
The growing chorus of Democrats raising questions about whether Trump won legitimately is now too big to simply ignore.
I'm not saying there was fraud, but I am saying we need public recounts and audits so that people can trust the system.
Let me keep going.
Another tweet.
I would sincerely recommend that Biden admin, while Biden has absolute immunity...
Have his DHS work with state officials to examine the election results in key states that would help alleviate concerns that Trump and Elon Musk somehow cheated to win.
unidentified
Oh, this is where they're saying Elon Musk had an episode.
steve bannon
Hang on.
They just got blown out and they're trying to, I mean, Dean, you're going to show us some math.
natalie winters
Well, it's quite funny.
On Morning Joe today, Jen Psaki and Joe Scarborough are having a back and forth.
Like, it's just so weird.
Our people didn't turn out.
We're talking about millions of voters who just weren't there.
I said, well, Joe, if you'd like to have me on your show or Stephen K. Bannon, I think we could probably explain to you why they weren't there.
It's because they never existed in the first place.
steve bannon
Never existed.
unidentified
Wow.
steve bannon
Okay, we're taking a short commercial break.
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unidentified
Slash Bandit, I think we're laying at the case that's going to get pretty turbulent, ladies and gentlemen.
steve bannon
Hunker down for a fight.
And I've got to tell you, you want to throw down on this?
We're prepared to throw down.
Let's roll.
We understand this is not for everybody.
We got it.
But the Democrats, the one thing I admire about them, you've got some hard fighters over there.
natalie winters
I think the unafraid, undocumented, queer one needs to go first.
unidentified
I love this.
natalie winters
With the vast deportations.
steve bannon
Checking boxes all the way down.
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back in a moment.
unidentified
All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
War Room Battleground with Stephen K. Bannon.
joe scarborough
Because what Democrats need to be asking is why did so many people stay home and not vote?
Two numbers.
First number is 12 million less people voted for Kamala Harris.
jen psaki
This was not a vote because Donald Trump has won over 10 million more votes than he did four years ago.
There were people who did not feel moved, motivated, connected to the Democratic Party.
And I've seen, and you played a lot of these people just a few minutes ago, there's a lot of diagnosing out there of what happened here.
It's too progressive, it's too this, it's too that, woke this and that.
Look, everybody needs to be a little bit more humble than all of those diagnoses right now.
Because young people didn't turn out, progressives didn't turn out, people who maybe should have found it to be appealing, the messaging that is left-leaning, as some of those critics are saying.
steve bannon
So, maybe I missed it.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
You help me out here.
Because they've totally confused me now.
Is Dean saying Obadiah, is he saying that Trump won by too many votes?
natalie winters
We won by too many votes, so it's implausible that we could have got such a wide margin.
I think it's that we won the popular vote is what really triggered them, because then they have no ground to stand.
steve bannon
SiriusXM has to put him on hiatus, right?
natalie winters
Well, I think, let's read a quote from Dean from 2022.
Every time you see a Republican described as an election denier, please understand that means the person is a democracy denier.
They only accept the results of an election if a Republican wins.
Today's GOP is how our democracy dies.
steve bannon
Womp womp.
And now he's doing the...
natalie winters
Now?
You're killing democracy.
I think we need to tell SiriusXM.
steve bannon
I want to talk about...
You, Beatty, Benz, Rahim, in understanding the intellectual construct of a color revolution versus now, you're seeing a color revolution, right?
It's in practice.
That call was another seminal event in this process.
And this audience, because you are the tip of the tip of the spear, we're going to have to confront this.
They're coming, and they're coming hard, and they're coming on multiple fronts, and they're going to be very well funded.
You're going to have Reid Hoffman, who's seething.
I hear he's seething that Kamala Harris was defeated.
And remember this always, folks.
Many of these big billionaires are the ones that panicked on Biden and forced Biden out.
Remember, they said they were going to cut off money, that he had to go.
This is how it got done so quickly.
This is how Pelosi was able to pull it off.
Now, they're being blamed for not having a primary and doing all this.
So, they want to rev up and stop the Trump administration, Trump 2.0, the second term, dead in his tracks.
Natalie Winters.
natalie winters
I mean, I really think the only reason that they're letting the Jack Smith case go is so they can better prep to, you know, have a resistance that is more meaningful.
It'll essentially become the offshoot of that, right?
That sentiment, that's not going anywhere.
I mean, we frankly survived a cultural revolution.
This audience bailed us out.
But those forces, those people, those activists that you just saw on that call, they're not going anywhere.
And the buried lead of that call being that Jeremy Raskin and Pramila Jayapal were on there, two members of the House, right?
steve bannon
Oh, I didn't know that.
I couldn't see the screen.
They had members of Congress.
I know Raskin came in, but they also had another member of Congress?
natalie winters
Yeah, yeah.
And, you know, I think you can tell from their anger.
Like, I'm watching Ari Melber have every leader of the resistance on his show right now.
They're not going to go anywhere.
And I think, you know, Norm Eisen outlined it.
Interesting choice of words in his tweet today when he's talking about dropping the Jack Smith filing.
He encouraged them to keep it going, but he said pending January 20th, which is an interesting way to phrase it, right?
And these people, I think part of it is a grift, right?
You see Mark Elias, it's obvious he's desperate for cash, but I think they're sort of freaking out because they lost all vestiges of government power, more or less, right?
So they have to go back to civil society, to these NGO groups, which is reliant on fundraising, reliant on the ability for these dark money groups to sort of prop them up.
So that's why I think it's so important that we go after and we audit these organizations because that's how you can really at least, A, expose to the American people.
So much of this money is foreign to begin with, right?
You don't know where it's coming from, but it also all leads back to the same people.
And frankly, I think when you talk about the stories of the ballot boxes being burnt out in the Pacific Northwest, have you heard much about that?
You know, the democracy denialists, they love to say democracy's burning.
Here's a perfect story to, you know, put a nice period on that sentence.
They don't want to get into it because it was the Gaza crazies who burnt it down.
And I'm sure if you look at those people and you trace the money back, it'll show you the same thing that we were talking about in this year's iteration of Summer of Love.
The uncomfortable and quiet part about the Democratic Party and you see it on full display at the DNC, the protesters who are outside burning the American flag are funded by the same people who are inside.
They just have a different mask and a shroud of patriotism and a camo hat.
But at the end of the day, the money is the same.
And in the same way that they went after targeted conservative groups using the IRS, right?
The Tea Party experienced that firsthand.
I'm not saying we go after them.
It's a different set of, I think, facts and a different equation because what they're actually doing is illegal, right?
They went after us because we were winning and beating them politically like we saw with the last four years with Trump.
But these forces have never been unmasked.
And that's why it is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Right.
They love the way that these disclosures work with these nonprofit groups, with the NGOs.
They essentially can do whatever they want.
They have free reign.
Right.
Think about it.
The reason why conservative media always reiterates Soros, Soros, Soros, Soros isn't because Soros is necessarily the problem.
He's just the one who's bold enough to put his name and actually attach it on there.
Right.
You could create 10, 20, 30 more Soros type figures if you just shined a little sunlight on who's funding all this.
steve bannon
Walk me through the same question I have from McGinley.
Your recommendation to the Trump transition team and President Trump as it gets to January 20th, because we have to deal with this now.
Also, the War Room Posse.
What should they be doing?
Because they're the shock troops of the Trump movement.
There, we said it.
Rachel, Nicole Wallace will be crying on that on Monday.
But you have the Warren Posse that was the tip and kind of the cadre of organizing to get out the vote and also the election integrity.
Now we're to another phase.
You have our group.
You also have President Trump and people should know.
He's going in and out of meetings right now in Mar-a-Lago.
One meeting is national security.
The other meeting is treasury.
So what do you think that they should do on an interim basis?
Because this is going to start coming at us this weekend, and by next week, they're going to have their sea legs.
We are very resilient as a movement and we're getting more resilient over time.
The MAGA movement is super resilient.
President Trump obviously personifies resilience.
They're pretty resilient too.
They got some tough hombres over there.
They got people, remember, are just as dedicated to their thinking as we're dedicated to our thinking.
I don't mind that.
If you have a set of beliefs and you support that, Then, hey, they've also got much more money than we have.
You've got billionaires that the donors on the right are kind of an interesting set.
I think a lot of them are very infantile.
They, oh, who are we going to do?
Who are we going to run?
They always want to buddy around people, and they're big in TV advertising.
They want to put money in TV advertising.
The Reid Hoffmans of the world...
These people understand community organizing and if they can't get the money from the government, they're throwing some dollars in there.
So this is fully engaged.
What we call the color revolution has now gone from a theoretical exercise and an exercise of Natalie and Rahim and Benz and Beattie and others explaining what's happening, you know, theoretically and as a construct to actually now I mean, hey, they called for militant, disruptive organizing.
They have focused on the—but it won't be the only thing they've focused.
They have focused on the mass deportations as something they want to confront with a call for direct action.
Direct action being their buzzword for actually getting in the streets, having the cameras, seeing the little kids, you know, be put onto the vans.
So your recommendation to the Trump transition team and then to the War Room Posse.
natalie winters
Well, look, the only reason I think that these Republican donors are so cagey to do anything, you know, tantamount to what the left does, is because they get doxxed and, you know, audited and berated.
And I say do the same thing to the left-wing donors.
Obviously color within the lines, but that's why they have such a mandate to do whatever they want.
steve bannon
You're saying fight fire with fire.
You're going to have to.
Otherwise, it's my theory about lawfare.
And this is why I'm so pushing a special counsel, not just strongly worded letters from Jim Jordan, although I greatly appreciate Jim Jordan for doing that today.
It's not going to stop until you stop it.
Right.
It's not you're not going to wish this away.
And one of the reasons it's not going to stop, it's effective.
Right.
They they they this is why they went after this.
The justice on the Supreme Court.
This is why Ted Cruz every Saturday morning in Ted Cruz's house.
I don't know if he lives in Bethesda or somewhere.
I think it's in Maryland.
They go to his house, and they're up in his front lawn with sound machines and clackers and all that.
It's effective.
It puts fear in people.
It makes donors want to back off or make them want to hide or make them very suspicious about doing.
This is why you have to confront it.
You have to confront it, and you have to go on offense about it.
natalie winters
Well, let's be clear.
Had President Trump not won, yes, by a very large margin, Dean, you know, we would be sitting here giving the MAGA equivalent of, you know, the deportation phone calls where they tell illegal aliens how to avoid deportation.
We'd be telling people how to avoid prison sentences and getting arrested, right?
They would be airing right now all the superseding indictments and criminal court cases that they write.
That is what we are up against.
In the same way that, you know, just breaking today, that FEMA agents were instructed to not go up to homes that had Trump signs outside, right?
steve bannon
Explain that.
And they have text messages.
Take a second.
We didn't get a chance to play a clip.
Walk through what happened.
We found out about FEMA today.
natalie winters
Yeah, the Daily Wire broke the story.
They obtained internal communications from FEMA agents who were on the ground.
They were sort of outlining their marching orders for what houses to go approach and try to give aid to.
this, of course, coming on the heels of what can only, I would say it's a botched disaster response on par with Afghanistan, but maybe it's even worse, but that they didn't want to go up.
I believe I can pull the exact image, but saying to go up to properties that have Trump endorsements or that look like they support Trump outside to not go and try to give them aid.
But I think that this dovetails to, you know, you're asking how this audience can stay ahead Yes.
Of this resistance stuff.
And I think we called this, right?
How they identify what caused their loss is going to be how they respond, right?
It'll dictate their pivot.
steve bannon
Hang on.
Explain that to me.
natalie winters
Depending how they come to internalize what caused their loss will dictate how the Democratic Party moves forward.
In other words, they are blaming misinformation, right?
They had a long...
steve bannon
Oh, they're saying that the African American men and the Hispanic men could not have possibly...
Voted for a group of fascists and white nationalists and nativists and xenophobic people.
That it had to be misinformation they got.
So the first thing to do is not actually look at the policies that we're promoting.
natalie winters
Versus the Alex Wagner theory of the case.
Which then becomes left-wing populism versus right-wing populism, which the Democratic establishment will fight like they did to make sure Bernie Sanders didn't get the nomination.
But to that point, it's very interesting.
There's a story that just came out today in, I believe, AP. The U.S. election was largely trouble-free, but a flood of misinformation raises future concerns.
And you see where they're going with that, right?
In the same way that they used the hurricane to sort of lay this precedent that there was a massive deluge of disinformation.
And they said people who were saying that FEMA wasn't coming to help them, that they were spreading misinformation.
No, FEMA, that's victim blaming.
If you guys do a bad response, it's just a bad response.
But to that point, I think it's very interesting.
They're hyping this new story.
That apparently a couple dozen people in the United States received text messages saying that they needed to report because they were going to become slaves.
And I was like, no, no, Kamala lost.
You're not going to become enslaved by globalists.
No.
But they have launched FBI investigations, FEC investigations, AG investigations in over a dozen states into this whole thing.
It's getting primetime viewership or airtime on MSNBC. They had the NAACP president on this morning to discuss, saying, oh, we can't stand for this.
This is horrible.
With the buried lead there, they're saying the text messages they think emanated from a VPN that they can trace to Poland.
And you know what they're going to say on the other side of this.
steve bannon
Oh, the VPN. What's right next to Poland?
natalie winters
Right?
Of course.
No, no, it's the Ukraine national anthem that's in our election systems, right?
But it's very interesting because they will use this narrative to clamp down on the spread of misinformation.
And the question remains, how will they do it?
I think President Trump should disband CISA. It was created in 2018.
This country survived hundreds of years without it.
it, we don't need it.
But I think that it's very important that we understand that as they double down on this concept that it's misinformation that they need to go after, you're going to see censorship efforts ratchet up and particularly why they will be able to do it.
Yes.
And so much of the actual muscle, the arm that carries out the censorship stuff, we're sort of the venture capitalists in the sense that we provide the money.
But a lot of it comes from Britain, right?
The Global Disinformation Index, the Center for Countering Digital Hate, all of these groups are sort of foreign.
That's foreign election interference at its finest.
But those people are not affected at all, right, by the outcome of this election.
So I think you're going to see a sort of shuffling the playing field, the chessboard, Of how they will try to crack down.
And now on the left, they're all having these discussions of how they...
This is actually something that they came up with on MSNBC, that they need to create an alternate set of news where they're the experts and they can put forth...
It's like, what are you talking?
That's so not the problem.
But the fact that they're trying to create a crisis out of it signals to me red freaking flashing lights that they're going to weaponize Any remaining vestige of power that they have.
And if they can't do it through these NGOs, then they'll do it through the pressure campaigns.
They'll do it through crazy people trying to assassinate you.
steve bannon
Let me make sure the audience understands this.
Your theory of the case here now, correct me if I'm wrong, as we segue into Trump 2.0, as we actually take control of the apparatus and we know that we are going to deconstruct a part of the apparatus, particularly the deep state part, and part of that may come from a formal Special prosecutor investigation.
But others are like, you're saying, hey, there's nothing that says we have to have CISA. That's part of the thing you just take apart.
natalie winters
They haven't been doing very good on the cybersecurity attacks.
steve bannon
We won't have safe and secure elections anymore.
But that the opposition will segue through donors.
They'll segue a lot of those same functions into NGOs to combat us.
natalie winters
Yeah, I mean, it's what they've always done, right?
steve bannon
That's always the government in opposition when they don't have direct power.
natalie winters
It's the outsourcing.
And I'm sure even internally within the White House or whether it's the NIH or the National Science Foundation that's funding all these studies on the pre-bunking the misinformation going after that.
But, you know, I think like we've always maintained, this election was so historic for them, right?
Because 2030 is when so many of these globalist, you know, super plans ended.
Even China's, you know, Made in China 2025 initiative, the World Economic Forum, United Nations.
This is such a critical time period because, let's be frank, they broke the world.
And they wanted to be the ones that got to rebuild it.
But now President Trump is in there.
He gets to block their agenda.
So I think that his sort of enemy that he will be going against, certainly it'll be the deep state here, but it's almost going to go global because they don't have access to the levers of power that they want here in the United States.
So in the same way that you've seen the EU go after Elon Musk for not treating Twitter like something where the First Amendment is just totally absent, you're going to see, I think, the global community, whatever you want to call it, global civil society, right, come out and come after him.
steve bannon
Rachel Maddow ripping you off now.
natalie winters
I think she just really wanted a birch gold sponsorship deal.
Gold is doing so well.
steve bannon
Loves it.
You're back here tomorrow.
Where do people get you in the interim?
natalie winters
Natalie G. Winters on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook until I'm banned.
And shesoright.co, not.com.
I need to sue for that domain.
steve bannon
And Mark Elias lost $30,000.
natalie winters
I know.
steve bannon
That's people angry that, hey, Mark Elias, you let me down.
natalie winters
I've gained like $20,000.
steve bannon
You don't think they're Mark Elias?
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natalie winters
Wait, maybe those are all the voters.
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steve bannon
We're going to break.
Jack Posobiec is going to join us in the 11 o'clock hour.
Natalie and Steve will see you then.
Have a great evening.
See you back here tomorrow morning.
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