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Episode 4042: The Rise Of New Media; Legacy Media Is The Enemy Of the People
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K.
willie geist
How do Democrats need to change the way they communicate to voters if you think that's part of the problem?
unidentified
For sure.
I mean, I think all of us have to come to grips with legacy.
Media is just not as important as it thinks it is.
It is to you.
It is to me.
That's a relatively small group of people who rely on us for their information.
And you have to go into the world as it is, not as you wish it to be.
And basically, the way people get information has shattered into 20, 30 different pieces.
And so if you just look empirically at the numbers...
Joe Rogan's more important than any of us.
He just has a much bigger, hyper-connected audience that listens to his every word.
So maybe listen to Joe Rogan and kind of understand, like, what is he talking about?
What are the guests that he has on?
What are the issues that they care about?
Realize that the gravity of right-wing discourse is now taking place on X. It's not Fox.
X is what matters.
Elon Musk is now, I wrote about this yesterday, arguably the most powerful civilian in the history of the country.
He controls information flow.
He controls multiple businesses.
He has the president's ear.
He's going to be in charge of some newfangled organization to gut government spending.
We've not seen a person with that kind of clout across those sectors, but where his real power comes from is X. People thought he was an idiot when he bought X because he lost a lot of money.
He's got a lot of money, and now he happens to have the most powerful platform on the right, and politics is downstream from information.
And there's just a whole new information ecosystem out there.
So for us, for you, for Democrats, for Republicans, you have to understand that you now are gonna have to basically navigate 20 or 30 different parts of the ecosystem if you wanna connect with the American people who vote.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome back.
Friday, 8 November, Year of the Lord, 2024.
Jim Vanderhay, one of the smartest guys around, creator of Politico and Axios, saying what...
This is the reason the little war room on a live stream at Real America's Voice, who put us everywhere in a podcast, that we just take the show and just...
Tighten it up for the podcast.
Punches above its weight.
He just said it right there.
It's the podcasters.
It's the streaming service.
This is what people come to me.
We've got to buy CNN. We've got to do this.
No, you don't.
You have to have content.
If you have great content, it will find its audience.
We don't do a lot on marketing the show.
We just don't want to put the money into it.
We just like the content.
You have Grace and Mo and JoJo and all the team and Jane pushing out on social media all the time, various platforms.
And people find the content and then share it.
And then you've got Joe Rogan.
You have all these different...
And what the strategy...
And this is Alex Brusiewicz, the great influencer.
Remember, he was thrown under the bus...
I don't want to say by who, but just read the article.
By Tim Alberta, who is the dumbest reporter, political reporter today.
He's like inverse Kramer.
If you actually ever want to know what's really happening, read Tim Alberta and just understand it's the exact opposite.
He wrote a book that I actually read in prison.
I never had a chance to recall American Carnage.
He literally tells the story of the revolt that threw these guys out through the eyes of John Boehner and Paul Ryan.
And it's like some bizarro alternative reality.
He actually makes the case, seriously, that John Boehner had all set up he was going to retire.
I said, this is the dumbest thing.
When Meadows and those guys got him, all the work we had to do.
But now he's got this thing that Trump was going to lose and Alex Brusilowitz...
Because he had the guy up there who made the Puerto Rican joke was to blame.
Alex Brusilowitz was the guy that did the bro strategy on getting all the podcasts and getting Trump out on the Nelp brothers and all this.
It was genius.
This one's got all the young guys coming to vote.
My point is when people – and this is where the billionaires and the donors are so – they're like little children.
They come to you immediately and go, like, who's going to be the leader?
We've got to have somebody in 2028.
Just take a deep breath, dude.
We've got a lot of work to go through.
And if we don't get these next two years right, forget 2028.
You've got to chop wood now.
And here's what we've got to do.
And look, some of these young congressmen, the MGGs and these people, and Gates, boom, they're the drivers of the action.
But you've got to get on top of it.
But Bruceowitz pulling together that strategy.
And my point is, you know what I'm telling them?
Because in 17, my plan was to shut down that press thing where they do the briefings, put them across the street in the EOB in the big auditorium where Jack Kennedy gave those great press conferences.
That was all Jack Kennedy did from the State Department.
He did it across the inside the compound in the executive office building.
Put the media there.
Get them out of the West Wing.
They don't deserve to be put on the West Wing in first three rows.
So NBC, CBS, ABC suck on this because this, I hope, is the plan that gets implemented.
The first three rows are all the podcasts and the bros and all that.
The first three rows are that, new media, alternative media, the streaming services.
You guys are like in the cheap seats.
You're in the fifth and sixth row because you know what?
You deserve to be in the cheap seats.
All you do is attack him and rip him apart.
You think we're now going to honor you?
No, the Helen Thomases of the world, the tremendous reporter, I think she was UPI or AP, who always got the first question.
Boom!
That should be new media.
Pay the...
Legacy media is the enemy of the people.
We just proved that.
The people spoke after President Trump for four years, or even his first term has been vilified, vilified by these demons for years.
You think we're going to reward you?
Take the frickin' press room and turn it back into a pool.
It used to be a pool during Kennedy's administration.
When you're in the West Wing, you got the Oval Office, you step out of the Oval Office, they're all over you.
They're right there.
The comm shop's there, and all the media is walking back.
You just walk down a short stair, and hey, you're in that little press room, but then they got these things.
Get it out.
Turn it back into an exercise room.
Do whatever.
Put plants in there.
Let them grow.
I don't care.
But get these hyenas and these jackals because that's what they are.
And if they were smart...
Look, if you had some Vanderhais and guys like that over there that have a different philosophy and a different point of view but are smart people...
And are able to engage and actually act like reporters trying to get facts and information?
I probably got no problem, Brad.
But you know this.
They're jackals and hyenas.
The hyenas go across the street.
My plan was to put them out past Lafayette Square and get them, hey, there's an office down there.
Every day, you've got to show that pass.
And maybe some days you go, I don't know, is the pass working?
We don't want to know.
Screw them.
They're not coming in.
Right?
The MSNBC correspondent, let them stand outside and freeze.
The only thing they understand is smash mouth.
Oh, you're against the First Amendment.
You know, they're propaganda departments.
Look what they've done to Trump.
Can we go back over the last four years and do a mashup of like three hours of their hatred of this individual?
The American people rendered their verdict on Tuesday.
And their verdict, after being inundated with all this, and you had a couple of the Real America's Voices of the World and a couple small groups out like that, That got the information out.
They said, hey, guess what?
We like that guy.
He's got resilience.
The man's after him.
It's got to be for a reason.
I'm not sure I understand all these policies, but I vote for him.
I vote for him.
And so now you can't reward these people.
Put them in the fifth row.
Put them in the sixth row.
Hell, don't even let them in the building.
This is going to make up stuff anyway.
You say, oh, Steve, how can you say that?
Look at the polling.
Don't take it from me.
Look at all their long faces every day.
In MSNBC, it's like they're sitting Shiva, right?
They're in mourning.
This is a wake.
And not a Catholic wake where you're drinking and partying and, you know, they're bringing the body in and the wake and everything.
No!
This is serious.
They got the long faces.
They have no earthly idea.
You know why they're really worried?
You know why they got the long faces?
Why do you think they have the long faces?
Because I think there are a couple, three decision makers at these networks are sitting there going, this is not working.
Our ratings are off 25% on election night.
It's going to go to nowhere now on MSNBC and CNN. They're paying these people a fortune.
Their payroll is almost as high per capita as war room.
Not...
They're paying them a fortune and they're not getting any viewers and now the advertising is going to get all jiggy because we should go to all the big advertisers and sponsor all this thing and say, hey, guess what?
No government handouts, none of that.
We're going to review this.
Maybe sick the IRS on them.
Oh, did I say that?
Can't do that.
Paybacks are hell.
Not for just a normal course.
It wasn't that.
This was all to destroy a man.
And they felt in destroying a man they would destroy a movement.
Because they want total and complete control of the neoliberal, neocon American empire.
They had the most powerful apparatus in the history of the earth, and they weren't prepared to give it up.
They still ain't prepared to give it up.
But they weren't prepared to even recognize the fact that we had...
And look at Joanne Reed right there.
You see, he voted for Nazis, voted for fascists, that hatred.
MSNBC right now should make a decision.
Right?
And the Roberts family, the Runster, make a decision.
And that is just a clean house of all of it.
Right?
Maybe you make Rachel Maddow come back.
You keep one.
You get one.
Maybe my favorite, Nicole Wallace, gets the nighttime show.
You get one, but you can't continue on with the hate of Julian Reed.
Just do it.
You're not going to have any audience.
CNN the same way.
And CNN, stop with the 50-person panels.
It's like a third-grade class when every kid wants to raise a hand.
It's ridiculous.
It's just stupid.
Get two or three people that know something, actually know something, and put them on there.
So if you're going to spend time, you at least have some interesting repartee of people.
You got 20 people that don't know anything, and they all get 90 seconds.
It's called make a decision.
Oh, let's pick that, that, that.
Don't just spread it.
We'll just cover everything.
We'll just do it.
That way we'll get off the hook.
Vander Heade lays it out.
Joe Rogan's got stroke in this game.
The No Bros have got stroke in this game.
These podcasters and these streamers, Real America's Voice, Real America's Voice is the fox of the double aughts.
It's got War Room.
It's got Charlie Kirk.
It's got Jack Posobiec.
It's got John Solomon.
These people pack a punch.
They will punch.
You look at Charlie Kirk up at night.
He's going through...
Because Charlie's a nerd.
They're doing nerd work.
I can't get enough of it.
They're in every precinct in Arizona.
And they're doing the vote count.
People love that.
These audiences want detail.
They don't want punditry.
They don't want flying 60,000 feet.
They want to be down...
Hey, this is trench warfare.
They want to be in the trenches.
Dave Brett.
dave brat
Yeah, I think it was Vander Hey, Axios today wrote something that applies to everything you just said.
Bottom line analysis on the election, what the left was missing was an overarching narrative that made sense of the world around us.
Their language on the Nazis and this, that, and the other makes no sense to the American people whatsoever when they look out at the world.
And I just want to reverse Steve Bannon's way too humble to ever say anything.
But back in 2020, right, Cash Patel in his book, Government gangsters.
Yeah, government gangsters.
Wire fencing's all over.
Nancy Pelosi, this one just little fact that will come out and it'll have huge repercussions.
But she wanted an Abrams one tank out in the middle of the lawn for some reason for psyops.
Right.
And this is the kind of thing that's going to come out.
And so back then, President Trump is fighting the fight.
Steve Bannon was in here at that microphone right there, yelling in that microphone when no one else was yelling.
And he was yelling about all the issues that we've constructed, Our narrative is China, never-ending wars, a million dead in Ukraine, 15 million border invasion, 35 trillion in debt.
All jobs, all net new jobs in the past year are part-time.
All jobs in the last four years have gone to foreign-born workers.
Did you get that one?
All jobs, last four years, not to American citizens.
These are the overarching themes that the American people care about.
They care about equality.
They care for the people.
Trump cares about people.
Jordan Peterson did a psychological analysis to Trump, and he said Trump puts on this hard mask because inside himself there is a heart.
There's a soft heart there that cares about people.
unidentified
Soft heart.
dave brat
And when you're taking on 8 billion people, it's not a simple day at the office.
And so that's the man that just won.
We've got to have his back.
Everybody has got to do their part now.
We all prayed to God.
Now it's time to act before God.
If everybody does your calling, only you know what your calling is.
Only you can pray and figure that out.
But you figure it out, and you do your thing, and it's all going to work out great.
steve bannon
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We're here in the War Room.
We've got Dave Brat.
We're going to drill down on this more about the transition and what lies beneath.
unidentified
All next in the War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
steve bannon
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On my comment, you know, President Trump does get a, for all the super MAGA warriors out there, He gets a vote on who he wants to have work with him.
Not everybody he wants is going to look at as a super-American guy.
They're going to have his policies, but some are just not going to be.
You know, don't be shocked if a Mike Pompeo doesn't...
I know Mike very well.
I'm not a fan of Mike being in this administration.
I'm not.
I think it brings too much of the neocon perspective.
But President Trump has a very close relationship with Mike Pompeo.
And you may see Mike Pompeo, and guess what?
Audience, you're just going to have to live with it.
I'm not trying to paint, you know, a false...
I'm trying to say, hey, you're the cadre.
You're the vanguard.
We're in this situation.
And look, I kind of love where we are, but we have to be realistic.
And right now you've got this transition period.
We've got to be very focused on this.
We've got to make sure we get the right people and the right jobs.
There are going to be some outliers, particularly in foreign policy, State Department, it just is.
Now the big work, because you've got to deconstruct the CIA and the FBI and the DOJ, that's a heavy lift.
And I'll always trade off something that's not that important to something that's critical or first order that has to happen.
Now, some of it, like Stephen Miller.
I think Stephen Miller.
And look, Stephen Miller and I have worked for 15 years.
And we have not had the best relationships over the last four or five years.
And there's a reason for that.
I'm a little more hard.
Stephen was the hardest core of all.
And I actually think I became a little more hardcore about what happened because I warned that this was going to happen.
And I think some people did not take it seriously enough.
And I warned that every town was going to be a border town and every city was going to be a border city.
And this was going to happen in New York.
This was going to happen in Detroit.
But I think Stephen Miller is the absolute perfect deputy chief of staff underneath or working with the chief of staff.
And I think he's got to be appointed, I believe, strongly.
You need a czar.
I know people hate that word, but you need a leader.
Some one person must take over deportations, mass deportation, one person.
That person has to have the total authority of the president, report directly to President Trump, and they have to coordinate the Tom Homans of the world from DHS, the Attorney General, the State Department.
State Department's going to play a role in this.
Right?
The national security apparatus, the intelligence apparatus, the criminal justice apparatus, deporting 15 million people.
And I said last night in the speech, all of them got to go home.
All of them.
You don't have a country.
President Trump said this.
And you start, obviously, with the insane asylums they let and the criminals, and that's going to be hard.
Because remember, these countries don't want them.
At Danbury in the federal prison...
You know, 10% or 20% of there is now these illegal alien criminals.
And the justicism does not...
They want to serve their terms here and not send it back.
It's very complicated.
That's why you need a Stephen Miller that's in charge of everything.
Right?
So you need a Stephen Miller.
What you don't need is a Jeff Miller.
That is just...
He's just...
He's the personification.
The reason that McCarthy...
The reason that McCarthy is bounced as speaker for the only time in our history...
It was because he was too involved.
This is why they cut the debt deal with no cap to it, because that's what the lobbyists want.
Corporate America doesn't care about the debt.
And they're not that brainwashed.
When the debt crisis hits, they're going to panic and go, save us, save us, save us.
Well, no, guys.
You supported modern monetary theory.
This is the thing that's trying to be conspicuous.
We've had a philosophy that I think, in some aspects, is actually more radical than communism.
Because remember, the Russian, the Bolsheviks, they paid off all their debt.
The CCP tried to stiff us.
That's where you get the Chinese railroad bonds or so out there.
But these guys were like Puritans.
They paid off all their debt.
So as radical as the Bolsheviks were, the modern monetary theory actually on economic basis, it may be the most radical theory ever, which you can just spend forever.
And once you have a problem, like inflation, once you have a problem, you just raise taxes 200%.
That doesn't happen, not in life.
It doesn't happen.
And that's how you get what Trump left.
There's 23 trillion.
We have 36.
They put on 13 or 14 trillion dollars in four years.
This is why they were voted out because that's that is now embedded in inflation.
That's why prices are 35 percent.
People can't buy houses.
That's what.
Guess what?
The African-American, Hispanic and white working class that supported you, they can't articulate that because nobody will teach them like on this show because they want to They obfuscated about how Wall Street has a constant permanent money printing machine of fiat currency to pay for the good times, to keep the punch bowl there.
As they used to say at the Fed, you've got to take the punch bowl out right before the party peaks.
Don't do that anymore.
You're putting straight moonshine in there.
Grain alcohol.
But they understand something's wrong.
Deeply wrong.
That's all that has to be deconstructed.
The whole thing has to be kind of reorganized and reprioritized.
That is a lift.
And what Trump earned is for us to sit there and go, hey, we trust your judgment.
If you got a couple of these three guys that are not ultra MAGA, that are not coming on War Room and lighting the thing up every day, we're cool with that.
Right?
As long as we think there are people in there that have your back.
Dave Bratt, you've gone through this many times.
Your thoughts?
dave brat
Yeah, no, that's right.
Right now, and you just put your finger on it because I try to set that economic baseline up front for a reason, for when this market does crash.
And it is hard to believe, right?
But 07, 08...
The government came in with massive spending.
The Federal Reserve Bank validated the spending.
That's the key word by printing the money, right?
And we said, we're never going to do that again, right?
That was a disaster.
John Taylor was all over it out at Stanford, the greatest monetary guy after Milton Friedman.
And now we're doing the exact same thing.
The market is overvalued.
And what's the Fed still doing?
They're lowering interest rates right now in a bull market in the equity market.
And why is that happening?
Because you see, China, they have capital outflows right now.
Their own people are trying to get money out of China.
And our guys are still investing right up to the crash to maximize profits in this crazy bull market.
And we know what's going to happen.
The market's going to crash and the Fed's going to do the Greenspan put one more time.
And the American people know better already.
And that's why it's incumbent on us now.
We have the people on our side now.
Now it's a matter of a massive education project, like Steve was just saying.
He's been putting these issues out there.
I got support from him and other folks 12 years ago.
None of these issues are new.
steve bannon
It wasn't total support.
So Ron Maxwell, he was obsessed with taking out Eric Cantor.
Ron Maxwell is the director of Gettysburg and Gods and Generals, a magnificent, the Civil War epic.
Great man.
He's one of these guys, he's a nerd.
He's obsessed.
He's obsessed with Cantor.
Cantor, the swamp, Cantor's this, we've got to defeat Cantor.
And he calls me up.
I said, well, go find a guy we can beat him with.
I said, it's almost impossible.
I know the Cantors are very highly respected.
Tom Blally was the congressman.
I come from that part of Richmond.
The Cantor family, Jewish family there, very respected.
They do so much for the community.
They would open the Jewish Community Center to all the little scallywags like us all the time.
Eric was his driver.
Eric was kind of a beloved guy.
Really a good guy.
But the swamp owned him.
He went hardcore.
They owned him.
And so Maxwell comes to me and says, I got the guy to do it.
I go, okay, fine.
Who is it?
He goes, he's fantastic.
He's a tennis pro.
He's a tenured professor in economics at a college.
I go, what college?
He goes, Randolph-Macon.
I go, Randolph-Macon is like a high school.
I said, it's not really.
It's a party school.
I said, no.
No, I said, we're not doing that.
I said, that's ridiculous.
That's redonkulous.
I said, a former tennis pro economics professor at Randolph-Macon is not going to beat Eric Cantor, so forget it.
Stop.
By the way, a guy from Michigan, not even a Virginian, right?
The Yankee.
The Yankee.
Cantors have been there for five or six generations, right?
They're beloved.
I said, no, stop.
That's ridiculous.
Then he says, you just got to take a meeting.
Bratz shows up.
Of course, he walks in like a movie star.
He's got the sweater over the thing.
I mean, no, he had the tennis sweater, the white tennis sweater.
I go, and he sits there, and Bratz, you know, was pretty impressive.
So I go, he met Laura Ingraham, right?
But it was really, it was the, Natalie Winters at the time was Julia Hahn.
dave brat
Yes, Julia, great.
steve bannon
She was a 21.
She was a 21-year-old, and this ties back to Stephen Miller.
She was a 21-year-old graduate from Harvard-Westlake and from the University of Chicago.
I mean, she was like the big sister to Natalie Winters.
This woman was a genius, and she made a decision that Dave Bratt was going to be a congressman.
And so between the Laura Ingraham show in the morning, I had the Breitbart News show.
We only had Breitbart Sunday.
Literally, Dave Bratt became my co-host for about six months, right?
The day he won, the Fox guys are calling us, the Handy guys are calling us.
What is happening in Richmond?
What's going on?
It's unbelievable.
You beat him.
The night before, John McLaughlin, who's Trump's pollster.
Had brought down 40 points.
40 points.
dave brat
30 points down and I won by 10.
steve bannon
So off by 40.
Off by 40.
dave brat
30 points down.
And Zach Worrell was my...
We were doing receipts and campaign money out of a shoebox.
Our treasury.
Right?
I mean, it was Zach Worrell that outs...
unidentified
He worked.
steve bannon
No, the whole thing worked.
unidentified
Day in.
Day out.
steve bannon
You worked.
But it was the message.
Your message...
dave brat
And that's right.
steve bannon
...was about to drain the swamp.
dave brat
Right.
steve bannon
It was pre-Trump.
It was drain the swamp.
dave brat
Deficits and debt back then.
steve bannon
Deficits and debts.
dave brat
And no one cared, unfortunately.
steve bannon
Immigration.
Remember, when Brat won in a primary, the next day here they had the big Facebook Zuckerbergs who make the big amnesty rollout.
They canceled it.
They canceled it because he ran on.
dave brat
And like President Trump, the press, the Washington Post took me out the first day I was in office.
I'm a liberal arts professor.
I had no clue.
I'm going out.
I roll down the window and I'm going to get my hair cut.
They say, what do you think about minimum wage?
I say, I'm going to get my hair cut.
Headline, Washington Post, Bratt unequipped to answer questions on minimum wage.
I'm just like, you've got to be kidding me, right?
unidentified
Welcome to the National Football League, bro.
steve bannon
Unbelievable.
Dave Bratt, the innocent.
You did pretty well.
Hung out a couple of terms.
They targeted him, by the way.
The guys are targeting him with the Republicans.
dave brat
My own side.
The Republicans targeted him.
unidentified
Zero.
steve bannon
Short break.
Back in a moment.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
steve bannon
We've got some breaking news I want to get in here.
We're going to get back to our discussion with Dave Bradd.
I want to get back here, too.
We got Nigel Farage.
He joins us.
Nigel, I take it you were down with the president in Mar-a-Lago.
You're back in the United Kingdom?
nigel farage
Yes, I am.
But I must say it was a great honor to be at Mar-a-Lago as those results were rolling in.
And what a stunning victory.
Well done, him.
steve bannon
Incredible.
We'll have you back on and talk about that.
But you've got breaking news on something that's quite important that we've got to get in front of the audience.
Talk to me about Diego Garcia.
nigel farage
Okay, so there's a string of islands in the Indian Ocean and the Chagos Islands.
They are British territories.
One of the most significant islands there is called Diego Garcia.
Now, the US Navy have a very, very important strategic military base there, which we, the Brits, let America as allies use.
It is a vital strategic asset.
Almost impossible to afford the first Gulf War, Iraq, Afghanistan, without Diego Garcia.
Unbelievably, our foreign secretary, David Lammy, the man that has previously called Donald Trump a neo-Nazi, amongst other things, who was an extreme left-winger, has decided to give up British sovereignty over the Chagos Islands to the island of Mauritius, which is 1,300 miles away.
Why does this matter?
Well, Diego Garcia will then be owned by Mauritius.
They've given us We're told a 99-year lease deal that the Brits and Americans can go on using it.
But as we saw with Hong Kong, these deals often don't last.
These deals often disappear.
The other problem is there are other islands in that chain which China...
Could start to use as a refueling centre, a naval base.
I mean, this is literally a surrender to Chinese naval interests.
And for an incoming American president who wants to make America strong again, who wants to be the peacemaker in the world, something he did a fantastic job with over the course of the last four years, this needs to be an issue.
Now, the Labour government have a massive majority in Parliament.
I've spoken in Parliament about this.
I've said that it's madness.
I've said that our American allies will not like it.
And during the previous Trump administration, there were some conversations around this.
And I think all it would take is for the incoming Trump regime to publicly say, this is a very bad idea.
And then maybe we can stop our far-left foreign secretary giving away these islands out of colonial guilt for stuff that happened when we beat Napoleon to the islands in 1814.
So this really does matter.
steve bannon
Diego Garcia, I was in the Pacific Fleet, but we had to spend the better part of one deployment in the North Arabian Sea in the Persian Gulf.
Without Diego Garcia, Diego Garcia is a quite small island that's just like a massive runway.
In a pier, I think that goes for miles, right?
It is a refueling and ammunition dump for the United States Navy and the Royal Navy.
Without access to Diego Garcia, you cannot possibly do the types of deployments That you have in the Indian Ocean that really lead up to the North Arabian Sea, the Red Sea and the Persian Gulf.
And so if you want to turn over Basically, this would be looked at as giving up on Australia and India as your partners.
Look, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, the Philippines, Vietnam, the nations around the South China Sea, the guys in the nations in the Malacca Straits, Australia, India, all depend upon the coordinating, the connective tissue of that is the United States Navy.
And you need Diego Garcia.
What do people...
I know, Nigel, and people should know, Nigel has a very special relationship with President Trump, thinks very highly of Nigel and just the way he thinks.
So, Nigel, what does this audience need to do?
We'll make sure that the guys on Capitol Hill know about it and the people down in the transition, but what are you calling for today?
nigel farage
What I'm calling for, Steve, are, you know, the War Room, the War Room team, all of your followers, who I think are now, without doubt, the most influential conservatives in the whole of North America, which is a great testament to To your hard work over these years.
We need you, please, shout at your senators, shout at your congressmen and say, you know, if America is going to be strong, if America is going to stop China taking over the world, Diego Garcia matters.
And we need the incoming administration to be absolutely clear to the British government that surrendering sovereignty to Mauritius, an independent state with a very left-wing government, increasingly under the influence of China itself, It's a terrible idea.
And I promise you, if we get big American voices saying this is a bad idea, the British government will have to retreat and Diego Garcia will be in no doubt.
This is really...
And I know, you know, cost of living.
I know the southern border.
I know these things, of course, have been vital in the American election.
But America's place in the world, and particularly the American Navy's place in the world, Needs to be protected.
It really matters.
So please, lobby, shout, do something.
steve bannon
But is Labour off to a very uncertain start?
Is Sir Starmer off to a very uncertain start?
nigel farage
No, the start's very certain, Steve.
It's catastrophic.
I've never seen a government come in and their popularity collapse as quickly as this.
I mean, unbelievably, he's got this massive parliamentary majority.
Would you believe I'm now more popular than Keir Starmer with the British people?
Yeah, he's just won a general election.
They're all over the place.
They're ruling through fear.
They're cracking down on free speech.
They're preventing the truth coming out about certain horrendous incidents that are happening in our country.
They've now decided to put a land tax which could destroy family farms all over the United Kingdom.
They're going for net zero in such a way that we now barely produce any primary steel in the whole of the United Kingdom.
It is complete and utter madness.
They're doing very, very badly.
And you know what?
They deserve it.
steve bannon
Nigel, social media, your show, social media, all of it, where do people go?
nigel farage
NFarRs.com.
That's my website.
It's all there.
My social media, GB News, all the different things that I do.
steve bannon
Brother, thank you so much, Nigel.
We'll get on this digger.
See you right away.
I'm fairly familiar with the location.
Newswire is breaking.
Elon Musk joined Trump's call with Zelensky today.
That'll have a meltdown.
Let's put up – I want you to meet the Millers, if Denver can put up.
And this is what I've been working on, why Brad's been controlling the show.
By the way, the sheriff's back in town.
You've got to fight for that mic.
I want to really thank Dave Brad.
Dave Brad's like Tucker.
Tucker did the thing in Glendale with the president.
It's two hours long.
It was absolutely amazing.
I think Tucker talked for five minutes.
Trump was on a roll.
They're both awesome.
No.
Hey, I'm back from prison, so you're going to have to fight for this thing.
No, it's you, baby.
dave brat
You take it over and run.
steve bannon
Hang on.
Let's put up...
By the way, there's stories about you running.
One last thing.
It was the shot heard around the world because when Dave Brat won, they were about to do an – they were about to have a Republican thing with Zuckerberg and all these guys, huge press conference.
They lay out an embassy bill they were going to take forward.
That left – and that led was one of the things that led up to Trump.
dave brat
Right.
steve bannon
Because right there you could see that the establishment was going to fight you.
They're still fighting you.
But right there, this is why we got 15 minutes.
Did you see the Republicans defund anybody at DHS? No, didn't fight hard.
That's what's got to change.
Can we get the graphic up and meet the Millers?
So you meet the Millers and you've got right there.
What do I have?
I've got...
Can we get that again?
So the two wigs, I got our favorite, Tim Miller.
Didn't he give me something?
I made some statement.
He said, bookmark it.
Tim, you've been a little quiet here recently.
Tim Miller's on the right.
He's the pukas of pearls on MSNBC. The guy on the left is Jeff Miller.
That's the swamp.
He's the lobbyist for Pfizer and for so many of the immigration, you know, the Open Border Society guys.
He's the conduit of big corporate money.
Give me a minute on the big – you come in as a new congressman.
They give you a wake-up call immediately, right, about what you've got to do for the corporate money?
dave brat
Yeah, no, we, Gary from Alabama and I, we tried to save $40 billion, which is a teaspoon.
We're paying to dead people.
We talked to Paul Ryan.
He says no.
And I went back to my tea party.
steve bannon
You're paying dead people in Social Security.
dave brat
$40 billion.
steve bannon
$40 billion a year.
dave brat
Yeah, and we couldn't save that much, right?
And so why is that?
Because it's called the giant Excel spreadsheet in the sky.
And so now with Elon Musk and Trump and Russ Vogt and the heroic guys, they're going to try to trim $1.7 trillion And the lesson of the story is the $40 billion, the reason we couldn't save it is because that money is going somewhere.
It's going to one of the cronies up in the swamp, right?
And so to move the $40 billion, you got to take it away from somebody to give it back to the American people and the deficit.
Try doing that with $1.7 trillion right now.
That's the revolution we're facing, and that's why this is going to be Herculean lift that requires a revolution from the ground up, and that it can happen.
But we all have to eat our spinach and get back to being a disciplined country again, and that's a spiritual venture, and I think we're ready for it.
steve bannon
We've got there also Stephen Miller.
Stephen Miller, we want, I think, has got to be the deportation czar or whatever the head, the reports directly to the president.
He's been with the president for years.
He was Michelle Bachman.
He was Jeff Sessions.
We did so much great work together.
He came to the White House, got him on the campaign early in August.
Late in 15, he became the speechwriter and a policy guy, a fantastic—hopefully he'll be deputy chief of staff over at the White House.
And then he got, of course, our own founding co-host.
Right there, brother Jason Miller.
I hope Jason takes the comms job, but you never know.
Jason's been doing this for four years nonstop, 20 hours a day.
He may take a break, but we really want him as comms director.
But that's Stephen Miller and the other Millers, Tim.
But you've got to stop the swamp.
You've got Jeff Miller.
Jeff Miller, he's McCarthy's guy.
McCarthy's conduit to the big money.
What they do is they give you a spreadsheet and they tell you, hey, first of all, if you want a committee, They have a number.
You've got to raise $2 million for the good of the cause.
Not for yourself.
You've got to raise that.
If you want a big committee coming out of the box, you've got to do that.
Otherwise, you're going to be in the labor subcommittee.
dave brat
And you can't oppose leadership on one thing, period.
One deviation from leadership, no money.
Zip.
I got kicked out of the members' dining room.
I couldn't have the white bean soup because I had no money.
I had no committees.
They kicked me away from the soup.
Boehner and Paul and Ryan.
steve bannon
And Brett, in the second one, we were down there trying to help Brett, but what they got, what he had was the, who's the, who's the, Spanberger?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
steve bannon
Who's going to be governor of Virginia, wants to be governor of Virginia.
She had the venement.
Your district's been a little restructured.
unidentified
Yes.
steve bannon
It was different at the time.
dave brat
Yeah, right.
steve bannon
But man, the biggest opponent that Brett had was the Republican establishment.
dave brat
Yes, absolutely.
steve bannon
No, they tried to run a primary guy, then they cut you off of money.
dave brat
Yep.
steve bannon
They would leak stuff in the press.
He's a bad guy.
I mean, they were really, I'm surprised.
I know they were sliding their money.
They would rather have a Democrat.
Yeah.
dave brat
They did.
The old school was the Republicans would take a loss for two years because we'll get it back later.
They didn't see the revolution coming because they're blind.
They're just blind.
steve bannon
Blind to the money.
dave brat
Didn't see it coming.
steve bannon
We're going to take a short commercial break.
The country's going through a financial crisis that the firestorm will build, particularly as the new Congress comes in and President Trump steps in, saddles up.
Something's got to be done with the debt ceiling deal.
Something's got to be done with the version of the tax cuts and the budget.
And President Trump, now I'm hearing that, hey, there's not going to be an omnibus.
He wants to get his hands on this thing so we don't have these $2 trillion deficits.
But since 90% of your net worth is tied up in your home, what you can't do is you've got to be on the ramparts.
We can't be worried about somebody who's taking out a second that you've got to pay back.
HomeTitleLock.com slash Bannon.
They're the ones.
Natalie Dominguez and the education team over there.
Go online.
Check it out.
Talk to them.
HomeTitleLock.com slash Bannon.
Do it today.
Short break.
We'll wrap up here with Dave Bratton in the morning show.
Pass to Charlie Kirk.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, in building the alternative economy, Public Square, which happens to be now public, go to publicsquare.com.
Look, it's totally free to you if you want to list as an entrepreneur or you just want to go on and meet all these companies.
These are all companies that are patriot companies.
This is a patriot economy.
So go check it today, publicsquare.com.
Great company, great technology guys over there that built something very special.
It's only going to grow over time.
Jillian Barbary joins me.
Listen, just like the IRS letter from the IRS, you can't take the credit card statements and the letters from the credit card company.
You cannot put it in the drawer.
If you put it in a drawer, that's a beast that's just growing.
You know, it's getting more gnarly.
This is a ticking time bomb on you.
If you're wrapped around the axle on credit cards, you cannot just put it in a drawer and it's not going to go away.
Jillian Barbary, done with debt.
What are you guys going to do to help our audience?
unidentified
Well, Steve, what we are doing is putting together a plan for our viewers to help you get out of that debt.
There are so many Americans in this situation right now.
Right now, the average American is gonna have to spend $11,000 more a year.
Credit card debt isn't just about the purses and, you know, the shoes.
It's about living.
It could be death, disease, things come up on you.
You mentioned taxes.
And debt is big business.
Let's not forget about that.
And you are the target.
So don't fall for those quick fixes.
Oh, we've got a credit card for you, especially after you apply for bankruptcy.
The credit cards come rolling in.
Oh, yes, we're gonna get your credit back on track.
We're gonna do this for you.
Do not take the bait.
Go to donewithdebt.com.
They will specialize for you, create your own dedicated team, look at your finances, put you back on track.
They work with the credit card companies.
They work with the banking institutions.
They know what needs to get for the dollar.
They can go tell companies to pound sand, essentially, and say, look, this is what we have and this is what you're going to get, or get nothing.
And these are things that the average American, they just don't know about.
And in fact, if you go to donewithdebt.com, a lot of Americans end up with money in their pocket at the end of the month.
But as you say, Steve, and I love that you talk about it, time is not on your side.
Stuff it away.
Don't answer the calls.
TikTok, TikTok.
They've got that on their side.
And the fees just keep adding up.
I've been there, but things creep up on you.
Here's the thing.
They're almost like therapists in the sense that they're not there to judge you to shame, to blame, but you've got to lay it all out and say, look, here's the situation.
You don't have to sit and do it in front of your family.
You talk to them.
And they're going to put that team together that's dedicated to you to stop the harassing calls, to stop the mail from coming in, and your anxiety literally, Steve, goes down overnight.
So they're incredible.
100%.
steve bannon
Where do folks go right now to talk to somebody?
What's the best way to do it?
unidentified
Okay, the best way to do it is go to the website and check out what we have to offer for you, and then you'll just pick up the phone.
Everything's on the website.
You get a free consultation, and they'll say to you, look, this is what we can offer you, and there's no shame in the game.
That's why I've gone public with it.
It is very hard for a lot of Americans, and it's simply to put food on the table.
I don't care what industry you come from.
You could be Huge success.
Things happen in life that are unpredictable.
So doneworkdead.com.
steve bannon
Jillian, thank you so much.
People, don't put it just in the drawer.
It's not going away.
It's just getting worse.
You have to confront this, but like Jillian said, your anxiety will drop down.
Jillian Barbary, thank you so much, ma'am.
Appreciate you.
unidentified
Great to see you again.
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
Thanks.
Brad, thank you for being here this morning.
Next time we'll let you talk.
dave brat
No, it was great.
It's been an honor of my life to sit in.
The greatest thing up in D.C., the Swamp, the knives are always out, but not on the Bannon team.
Team Bannon, the people you had, Natalie, Honwell, Poso, Raheem, Navarro, Producer, Cameron sitting over here every day.
We all shared the mic because of the content we put out.
And so the one big ask I have for all of you to support, Steve doesn't like selling to you.
You need to spread this platform to everybody you know.
That's what we got coming in two years.
You just heard Steve's crystal ball, and he's always right.
We got some great running room right now, but if we don't run hard and fast and through the tape, Then in two years, it's all going to go down the drain.
And you know what's coming again, the anti-Trump, the impeachment, the establishment, everything.
So it's been a great honor.
I'm so happy.
Steve is back.
He's the architect of all of it.
He's always humble.
But the best thing you can do to thank him, all the cards, he didn't want cards in jail, you just spread this platform.
RAV, however you watch it, spread it like crazy because that is your calling and that's your duty.
God bless you.
steve bannon
Social media?
Are people who get to you?
dave brat
Yes.
Now I have time because...
I'm not traveling the freeways as much.
Yes, Brad Economics on Getter.
I'll be posting regularly.
steve bannon
Perfect.
Look forward to seeing you.
Dave, thank you so much for doing this.
Mike Lindell, down with the swells down in Mar-a-Lago.
Get us up to speed and sell me a pillow.
mike lindell
Right on, right on.
Well, everybody, obviously, we're not stopping.
We got everyone out there working non-stop.
I did my big call last night telling everyone I'm giving them a big plan going forward to secure our elections going forward.
We're not done yet at all.
This is a new season just getting started.
But I do wanna say this, Steve, so we don't run out of time.
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We wanna thank you all.
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And Steve, it's been a win-win-win.
Yeah.
My employees are working non-stop.
We're hiring them every day now.
And then the war room has been awesome.
steve bannon
Mike, make sure you give from the war room posse.
Make sure you tell the president, we always got his back.
mike lindell
I will do that.
And he knows that too.
And he's told me that before.
I'll tell him again that we got his back and he'll have his back.
And thanks, Steve.
unidentified
You're a hero to the country beyond belief.
steve bannon
Tell him we love him.
Okay, Jim Hoff, the Gateway Pundit, John joins us at 5 o'clock.
Breaking news.
President Donald Trump breaks his vote total record from the 2020 election.
unidentified
Wow.
steve bannon
As our staff says, we're going to hang an eight on front of this.
unidentified
Wow.
steve bannon
He's passed 74 million, heading to, I don't know, 77, 78.
Folks, you delivered.
You had a hero's back.
That would be President Trump.
Charlie Kirk is next.
They're all over Arizona.
Poso, then we're back here at 5 o'clock.
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