Nov. 8, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But listen, any autopsy requires being a doctor, right? | ||
| You just have to look at this clinically, and there's no way to look at the data and not say, when you look at that map of states where they did worse, or counties where Democrats did worse, or even in cities where they did worse, and not realize that it was a pretty unambiguous verdict on the Democratic side. | ||
| I mean, the good news for Democrats would be like, listen, like we live in a 50-50 country and redemption is always an off your election away. | ||
| But for a lot of Democrats, you talk to the same people we do, they feel like they're lost. | ||
| They don't really feel like they have an obvious route. | ||
| They don't feel like they have an obvious leader to lead them out of the wilderness. | ||
| And so it's going to be, you know, a year, years-long project to figure out why are Republicans cutting into the working class? | ||
| Why are Hispanics, which were so reliably Democratic voters, now turning to Republicans? | ||
| Why are even some young voters who used to be really sympathetic to the Democratic Party moving towards Trump? | ||
| And that's a lot to unpack. | ||
| And until you look at it clinically and clear-eyed, you're not going to come to the conclusions of how do you fix what you have. | ||
| Well, any thoughts, Jim, from what you've heard? | ||
| I mean, you are right. | ||
| It is. | ||
| The good news is this isn't an FDR 55-45 nation or a Reagan, you know, 49-state sweep. | ||
| It is. | ||
| At the end of the day, you take the three blue-wall states that would have elected Harris. | ||
| You have Democrats winning two of the three Senate seats there. | ||
| You have Kamala Harris within a point in Wisconsin, a couple of points in Michigan, a couple of points in Pennsylvania. | ||
| Again, not a landslide there, but my gosh, Democrats did worse than 48 of the 50 states. | ||
| They got routed by 13 points or so. | ||
| In Florida, 13, 14 points or so in Texas, when in Texas they were getting closer and closer over the past 15 years to actually making that race competitive. | ||
| Nothing, nothing there. | ||
| So what are you hearing from Democrats mainly? | ||
| Is there any sort of consensus in these early days? | ||
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I don't think there's any consensus, and there rarely is as close to an election. | |
| I think you would kind of hit on it at the top of your statement right there, that the redemption probably exists in trying to figure out why are they doing well with governors in states like Michigan and in Pennsylvania, and why are some of these Senate candidates able to win in states where Vice President Harris could not win, start to figure out what's different about their politics than the politics you see in Washington. | ||
| They know, like, listen, it is like we're now 20 years into this trend where whatever we give people, they want something different. | ||
| There's always a sort of anti-ruling class backlash. | ||
| So presumably in the off-year elections or in the next presidential election, they should do better. | ||
| But if I and we've been talking about this a lot on this show for the last year, the thing that there's been a siren ringing, Like, why were Hispanics moving even long before this towards Republicans? | ||
| Why are working class voters used to be the bedrock of the Democratic Party? | ||
| You know, the Bernie Sanders crowd. | ||
| Why are they suddenly attracted to Trump? | ||
| And it's very hard to win national elections just having really rich, educated people in big cities loving you. | ||
| You need more. | ||
| You've got to have a more diverse community. | ||
| You've got to be able to appeal to working class voters who are worried about inflation and economic topics. | ||
| And so someone will emerge at some point to be able to lead them out of the promised land, but there's not an obvious figure. | ||
| I don't think Michelle and Barack Obama want to lead a revival of the party. | ||
| And Barack Obama can't run again anyways. | ||
| It's going to be very hard for Vice President Harris to say, hey, I lost and did worse than Joe Biden in 48 states, but I'm the person to lead you. | ||
| And so they're going to have to find who are those figures to lead them. | ||
| It's Hakeem Jeffries, probably going to be the most powerful Democrat by virtue of his position. | ||
| Is he the future of the party? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Probably one of those governors you mentioned. | ||
| Okay, welcome. | ||
| It's Friday, 8 November, Year of Our Lord, 2024. | ||
| Dave Brat joins me. | ||
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So... | |
| Look, I want everybody in a celebratory mood and reflecting on the great work that this audience did in achieving this. | ||
| And if you were normal folks in a normal audience, we would just do this and celebrate and talk smack for weeks and weeks and weeks. | ||
| The reason we have this victory is because of you. | ||
| And because of the courage of President Trump, but also divine providence. | ||
| Do not forget the assassination attempt. | ||
| We came one-eighth of one-eighth of one-tenth of one-twentieth of one millimeter from having President Trump's head blown off on live TV. That was the hand of God. | ||
| That was the hand of God that gave us the opportunity, the inflection point, for you to use your agency three months later, four months later, and deliver this stunning victory. | ||
| The same divine providence that put me in a prison, right? | ||
| Because it is God's plan. | ||
| But now... | ||
| We have new work to do in this audience is just you got to get up you got to get to the ramparts because there's so much happening but the reason I want to start with Jim Vanderhay He's one of the smartest guys out there, and we'll have another clip later. | ||
| He's a progressive Democrat. | ||
| He's Mike Allen's partner over Axios. | ||
| These guys were staffers at the Washington Post. | ||
| They gave the Washington Post an idea about how to really cover politics in the imperial capital, and the Washington Post blew them off, and they went, got other money from other people, and they formed Politico. | ||
| They created Politico out of nothing. | ||
| Created Politico and then sold it for $2 billion to the Germans. | ||
| And then they went and started Axios because they said, hey, we got to do it with less attention span, more impact. | ||
| And Axios, both Politico and Axios, the reality is it drives a lot of the thinking, what I call the Washington Consensus every day. | ||
| It's what every power player reads first thing, one of the first things. | ||
| So when Jim Vanderhay talks, people listen. | ||
| But more importantly, when he thinks, people want to know what he's thinking. | ||
| And right there, he lays it out. | ||
| We are a red country with blue cities and university towns. | ||
| We've made inroads into both of those. | ||
| We held and added a little bit to the suburban and ex-suburban and the rural, and the rural stood up like nobody's business. | ||
| But we've made meaningful and significant inroads to the university towns with young people, particularly men, young men, and into the blue cities. | ||
| We're now in New York City, the South Bronx, Trump, and that is all because of Trump. | ||
| We have in front of us a duty and an obligation to the country, to the citizens, and to Trump to make this work. | ||
| Two things that we need to do, I think immediately, is number one, with everything that's happening on transition, and I'll get into this in a second, is that I think if you ask President Trump right now on his transition, what he would tell you the one thing he wants is for people to get along and for people to figure out how to make it work. | ||
| You're not going to have all MAGA. In the White House, you're not going to have all MAGA in these cabinet positions. | ||
| It's just not going to happen. | ||
| You're going to get some, but there are just going to be some establishment people in there. | ||
| That's just reality. | ||
| What President Trump, I think, wants... | ||
| And I think you can see how tired... | ||
| He is tired. | ||
| He's tired because, look, he put the whole thing on his shoulders for months and months. | ||
| But for years, back from 2021, you know that. | ||
| You've been here from the beginning. | ||
| Right? | ||
| But in the last year, and particularly the last six months, it's almost superhuman what he did. | ||
| He put the whole thing on his shoulders and every day delivered. | ||
| He deserves people to try to make this work. | ||
| And to try to get along. | ||
| Now, there's obviously some things we have to fight and we have to make sure that we have his back in this fight, like against the lobbyists in the swamp that clearly wants a company to just take over right now. | ||
| The other thing that we have to do is outside, I had an opportunity to talk to the Freedom Caucus in their conference last night. | ||
| Dave Brett went over with me and Natalie and some of the producers. | ||
| Because Congress, the House is going to be everything. | ||
| The House is where the action is. | ||
| And hey, this is kind of the way the framers set it up. | ||
| They built it upon the House of Commons. | ||
| The Senate was always supposed to be a more deliberative body, kind of adults in the room, but very removed from the day-to-day action. | ||
| They wanted the action to be in the House. | ||
| And what I would tell folks... | ||
| Particularly as we work through this program or what this program is going to be in the Trump's first hundred days or first six months, because that is about as much time as you're going to get. | ||
| Every day, you have to come to work. | ||
| We have to say that they voted for Trump, but we got the benefits of Trump in the House and some of these Senate races. | ||
| But what they're doing, particularly the black community, Hispanic community, where we get these pickups, young men who may have never been involved before, low-prevency voters, it's almost a cry for help. | ||
| It's saying, hey, I can't stand and I can't take what the Biden-Harris ruling class is doing to the country and doing to me personally. | ||
| So help. | ||
| I don't really know who you guys are. | ||
| I'm told you're racist. | ||
| I'm told you're nativist. | ||
| I'm told you're xenophobic. | ||
| I'm told you're homophobic. | ||
| I'm told you're misogynist. | ||
| I'm told every day that you're the worst people on earth. | ||
| But I'll give you a shot because of Trump. | ||
| In crafting this program that focuses on the economy And the sovereignty of the country, the immigration deportations, which are the first thing that have to happen. | ||
| Just drive this into the ground. | ||
| Hakeem Jeffries could be, will be, the Speaker of the House in two years. | ||
| And the first thing he will do in the early days of 2027 is move to impeach Donald Trump. | ||
| Trust me. | ||
| They're going to put $10 billion in back of him. | ||
| They have nobody else. | ||
| It's all been washed away. | ||
| The Biden and the... | ||
| And Obama doesn't want it. | ||
| That's what we kept saying on the show. | ||
| You could tell it was half-hearted down there. | ||
| Look, he's gliding along. | ||
| He's got a $100 million deal on Netflix. | ||
| They're not going to get... | ||
| Vanderhain knows they're not going to come back and do this because it's work, hard work. | ||
| Hakeem Jeffries is just sitting there... | ||
| Right? | ||
| He's ready to go. | ||
| The Reid Hoffman of the world is going to put $10 billion in back to win a couple of seats, a handful of seats in places that are kind of democratic anyway. | ||
| Everything we do, you have to understand how do we deliver? | ||
| How do we deliver now? | ||
| What do these people need? | ||
| And I'm not for saying you've got to have government programs like that. | ||
| What do we need to revive this economy? | ||
| What do we need to really regain our standing in the world without being the American empire? | ||
| What do we have to do to get our sovereignty back? | ||
| That's what they're pleading for. | ||
| And that's what we have to work with President Trump to accomplish. | ||
| If we do that, then Tuesday is 1932. | ||
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If we don't do that... | |
| Because you're not gonna have another Trump. | ||
| It's not gonna happen. | ||
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In this country, it's come along... | |
| Through divine providence, a General Washington, a President Lincoln, a President Trump, a Reagan, an FDR, an Andrew Jackson. | ||
| It doesn't happen that often. | ||
| And once it happens, it's decades and decades and decades and decades before it happens again. | ||
| What has happened is providential. | ||
| And now it's time for a gut check. | ||
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Are we prepared to meet the moment? | |
| Are we prepared to leave it all on the field and leave it all on the field now? | ||
| Okay, welcome back. | ||
| Dave Bratt, we went over to the House Freedom Caucus, had their seminar. | ||
| They've kicked off for the new members, what about 500 people, many of our colleagues in the movement of conservatives. | ||
| I gave a variation of that last night. | ||
| Not quite the... | ||
| I kept it more secular, let's say. | ||
| Your thoughts of where we are right now. | ||
| You were in Congress. | ||
| You know the pressures. | ||
| The pressure is that the cartel in the swamp... | ||
| And look, we're a massive industrial economy, a post-industrial economy. | ||
| And the way we have it is Washington is a little bit like a bazaar, right? | ||
| And you have these needs and wants of these major corporations. | ||
| And you have these lobbyists. | ||
| And that's just going to happen. | ||
| But the thing that is before us... | ||
| Maybe we can do the cuts on... | ||
| Deportation, because I told you this was going to happen. | ||
| Now on the left, it's the point of contact. | ||
| The point of contact to stop us is on the mass deportation. | ||
| So that's going to be the point of contact. | ||
| And you've got Benzman and Oscar Blue saying, hey, they're going to get another $500,000 to a million in here before they get cut off. | ||
| The economy, the capital markets, the massive debts that were kind of stuck in this system and how do you actually unwind it? | ||
| That they've now got everybody on the government payroll, not just the people on the government payroll, but they've handed out so much stuff to kind of entrap the working class and the middle class. | ||
| It's very tough to unwind. | ||
| It's taken us 40, 50 years to get here. | ||
| They've turbocharged it recently, and they're trying to spike the cannons, as Scott Besson says, in the capital markets. | ||
| So we're in a jam. | ||
| We're in a jam. | ||
| And we've got to fight our way out of here. | ||
| And the American people have said, hey, I'm going to give you a shot. | ||
| Right? | ||
| I'm going to give you a shot. | ||
| So we've got to take it. | ||
| Your thoughts? | ||
| Yeah, well, I'm glad you opened with thankfulness to God because we are at a critical juncture right now. | ||
| The economy, we all know. | ||
| They printed $9 trillion. | ||
| We're running $2 trillion deficits. | ||
| And so it's very important to lay out the economic baseline. | ||
| First, where are we? | ||
| Productivity has been going down for 70 years. | ||
| No human being, even President Trump, with all the great things he's going to do, he's going to turn that around and pay off $35 trillion in debt. | ||
| And when you got Warren Buffett going... | ||
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Okay, stop. | |
| We're never going to pay off... | ||
| Take this to the bank. | ||
| You're never going to pay off one penny of the face amount of the debt. | ||
| If you can just pay the interest right now. | ||
| And stop the bleeding. | ||
| We're at 36. | ||
| We're going to be at 40 before you know... | ||
| It's a trillion dollars every hundred days. | ||
| If you can just stop that. | ||
| The first order of magnitude, you've got to stop that. | ||
| You've got to triage this. | ||
| So the $35 trillion is like – that is what modern monetary theory got us. | ||
| And it's not going to – you will never pay off for the $36 trillion that's there this morning. | ||
| Not one penny of the face amount of that will ever be paid off. | ||
| You just have to assume that. | ||
| Because we're adding a trillion dollars to it every 100 days plus these massive interest bills. | ||
| Is that not – Yeah, no, that's right. | ||
| And as Besant laid out yesterday, the bond market vigilantes are starting to get nervous. | ||
| I thought this was going to happen a few years ago. | ||
| It should have happened a few years ago, right? | ||
| So the Fed policy is going inverse to what the bond market is doing, and that's a problem. | ||
| And the main point I'm trying to make here is that this market is going to crack. | ||
| We just don't know the timing, right? | ||
| There's credit problems in the banks, etc., And we need to just lay that baseline that things are not good right now. | ||
| There's 12% literacy in Chicago for the kids. | ||
| You want to ask yourself, what can this country do that's populous to help the black, brown? | ||
| Every church and every synagogue needs to get out in the city and in all your public schools. | ||
| And help those kids learn to read. | ||
| That will gain the trust of the American people. | ||
| And then in two years, you might not get the norm, right? | ||
| But I just want to go back to another baseline, too. | ||
| It's this whole country invoked God. | ||
| President Trump invoked God. | ||
| Steve Bannon invoked God. | ||
| Protestants, Catholics, synagogues, everybody invoked God for the win. | ||
| And then God delivers the win. | ||
| And now the question is on us, right? | ||
| The ancient Hebrew people, after they were delivered from bondage, were complaining in the desert, you know, within no time. | ||
| Jesus' own disciples, the most important night of his life prior to the resurrection, left them. | ||
| On the hard work that needs to be done. | ||
| And so that's the question now to the Christian church, to the religious folks who invoke God. | ||
| If you invoke God, now is the time for action. | ||
| And so that action takes place in a number of ways. | ||
| A couple quick statistics, which I just found fascinating. | ||
| Catholic vote plus 10 for Trump. | ||
| The evangelicals delivered 82%. | ||
| So Ralph Reed was right. | ||
| We had some naysayers on that bit. | ||
| The Harris regime outperformed Biden in one key piece of information. | ||
| I think you also saw the thing that went viral. | ||
| Kamala didn't outperform Biden on anything. | ||
| Actually, she did. | ||
| She was plus 10 over Biden with atheists and nonbelievers. | ||
| And this is the thing we have to turn around. | ||
| It's not good in this country to have 48 percent of the people on the other side of football. | ||
| They're not our enemies. | ||
| They're made in the image of God. | ||
| So we've got a lot to do. | ||
| And a lot of this is mainstream media. | ||
| And President Trump is going to come out now and explain the carnage due to the CIA and the FBI and Department of Homeland Security like we've been laying out on the war room. | ||
| And the war room has a huge audience. | ||
| But Trump and that that bullhorn now to the country and the press is going to be captive to his message. | ||
| And he needs to lay out with RFK Jr. some of the tragedies of who gets shot when they're president of the United States and why. | ||
| So very serious matters. | ||
| He needs to lay down that gauntlet very soon. | ||
| And the Congress, Mike Johnson and the Senate, I hope that you don't just talk about leaders and leadership. | ||
| I hope you talk about the issues that we just won on and that the leadership race in the Senate talks about those issues. | ||
| And Mike Johnson delivers a huge win for the president. | ||
| They have a package that we heard from some of the superstars last night. | ||
| There's some great stuff coming our way. | ||
| But those are just a few of the ideas. | ||
| And the other the other key thing is President Trump won a majority of white women. | ||
| And that that cuts against the grain and the left is shrieking and howling because all the name calling didn't work. | ||
| We're all good people. | ||
| And in this country, we can do much better. | ||
| And Trump just reached out for the first time. | ||
| Black voters, Hispanic, brown voters, women, everyone across the world, blue collar, wages went up for the first time under his regime. | ||
| We need to do it again. | ||
| We can do it again. | ||
| Let me just say a couple quick things to give some hope here. | ||
| Even though the macro economy is in trouble, Warren Buffett is going from $100 billion cash to $300 billion cash in a bull market. | ||
| Schiller, the Nobel laureate, the PE ratio, the markets are way overvalued. | ||
| That's what I'm talking about when I say we need to lay the economic baseline. | ||
| The stock market is way overvalued. | ||
| It's going to come, revert to its mean. | ||
| Goldman Sachs last week said we're going to have 1% real returns for the next decade. | ||
| 1% real returns on the stock market for the next decade. | ||
| That's what I want to lay down here. | ||
| What President Trump is able to do when he does all the right things, right, when he returns capital from China and puts that capital back in the hands of the American worker so they can make a wage again, When we deport the illegals and the criminals and get rid of the fentanyl and he goes down to the Mexicans and says, you're cleaning up this border and all your drug cartels are going bye-bye. | ||
| Zelensky is already talking peace. | ||
| He's going to do all the right things, even if he does all that. | ||
| The economic baseline is what it is because we have had the worst economic policy for the past 20 years imaginable. | ||
| And so that's the way I'm seeing it right now. | ||
| And the American people, the good news, the hope is when you're raising your kids, your kids can still be utter success stories, right? | ||
| With God, with faith behind them. | ||
| If they choose the right courses to study, they learn the right materials in college and university. | ||
| I'm at Liberty University. | ||
| I tried not to get too political prior, but proud to be there teaching the best young kids imaginable on the planet. | ||
| There's hope because they can make it happen. | ||
| And if they all do their part and study and work hard and have that work ethic, this country will return to its original status. | ||
| And I'll just close on one footnote, which some people may not know. | ||
| Back in 1776, when this country was going, economic growth had just started globally. | ||
| Prior to 1700, everyone on the planet made about $1,000 a year. | ||
| Everybody on the planet made $1,000 a year. | ||
| Then modern economic growth started up in all Protestant countries under Adam Smith at first. | ||
| The Catholics copied that cookbook. | ||
| But the shocker is, and Bradford DeLonge backs this all up in high-end economic papers, the Judeo-Christian tradition is responsible for that economic growth. | ||
| We just had two Nobel laureates win a Nobel Prize for this shocking conclusion. | ||
| Yeah, but hang on. | ||
| It was because of human... | ||
| Because... | ||
| Divine providence worked through the Judeo-Christian West and particularly places like Scotland, right? | ||
| It's called the Industrial Revolution, the invention of the steam engine. | ||
| You can go through human history and it's basically flat, no growth. | ||
| In 1600, it was barely any different than 1000 BC, right? | ||
| And then you get the Judeo-Christian West With science and then technology and then you get the steam engine and then you explode. | ||
| That is what gave us all these opportunities, right? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And I call out the Catholics get short-shripped on this. | ||
| The Dark Ages were not so dark. | ||
| Go look up Rodney Stark for a complete modern revisionist story on that. | ||
| The monks, the science that emerged out of that period. | ||
| The Irish saved the West. | ||
| Was it Lindisfarne? | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
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| Why is the stock market at an all-time high and gold near an all-time high? | ||
| Those are not supposed to move like that. | ||
| The smart money is telling you something... | ||
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| Bratt and Bannon in the war room. | ||
| Back in a moment. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | |
| American voters actively chose him over her. | ||
| Women all over this country know what it feels like to be the far more qualified woman who loses the job to mediocre or underqualified men. | ||
| Black women doubly so. | ||
| And people are rightfully depressed and scared. | ||
| The Republican Party has made it clear they're not mad at the whole Nazi thing. | ||
| They actually find some of the ideas, mass deportation, internment camps, white Christian nationalism, to be kind of okay. | ||
| And autocracy definitely feels imminent. | ||
| This era is especially frightening if you're a woman or black or gay or bi or trans or in an immigrant or in a mixed-status family. | ||
| And that danger is not in your head. | ||
| And even in a normal time, when an election goes sideways, it is tempting to feel kind of dumb for having ever believed that the change you dreamed of was possible at all. | ||
| I mean, who are we to believe that America would ever elect a woman, let alone a black and Asian woman as its president? | ||
| I mean, sure, Mexico just did it, but not us. | ||
| We're America. | ||
| We don't do these things. | ||
| Also Latino men, who despite the utter disrespect shown by Trump and his promise to deport some of your mixed class, mixed status families, most of them voted in a 55% majority to make the deportations happen. | ||
| Y'all voted with Stephen Miller and David Duke and against your own sisters who chose Kamala Harris with 60% of their votes. | ||
| So you own everything that happens to your mixed status families and to your wives, sisters, and abuelas from here on in. | ||
| However, we only have so much time for blame. | ||
| We now need to make a plan. | ||
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We work. | |
| And I have to say, you know, people are really terrified. | ||
| For my grandmother, who did not sleep on election night, 87-year-old naturalized American citizen from the Philippines, and crying, calling me, asking me what was going to happen to students. | ||
| I'm a trustee of the California State University System, right? | ||
| We have 10,000, estimated 10,000 undocumented students in our system. | ||
| To undocumented people that I've known now for the past 13 years of starting Define American, the fear is more than palpable. | ||
| And I think the question now really is, and I was texting you today, I heard from my choir teacher, Mrs. | ||
| Denny, who I've known since I was a kid. | ||
| She literally texted me, how do I protect my students now, Jose? | ||
| What do I do? | ||
| And I wanted to make sure I say that because I can only imagine how many teachers, employers, co-workers, neighbors who are neighbors to undocumented immigrants all across the country, like what that conversation is like. | ||
| How are you going to protect your people? | ||
| Because mind you, undocumented immigrants, we did not vote because we cannot vote. | ||
| No matter how many lies Elon Musk and the Trump, we cannot vote. | ||
| I've never voted, been here 31 years. | ||
| So we were on the menu in this election, but we couldn't order. | ||
| And now the reality is our fate and our destiny is tied to what kind of risk American citizens, from teachers to co-workers to employers to church people who go to church, what kind of risk are you... | ||
| You see the mentality? | ||
| We didn't even get a chance to vote, no, because you're not a citizen of this country. | ||
| The America First movement and the reason these new folks came on, the black and Hispanic men, black and Hispanic families, It's because they would like a deal that American citizens come first. | ||
| Just basic, since they got to pay the taxes, they got to fight the wars, they built civic society, you know, Edmund Burke's civic society. | ||
| We're not an economy with the country. | ||
| We're a civic society. | ||
| We're a country that has an economic, and we got to get more capitalistic. | ||
| And I mean real capitalistic, where we have everybody in the country is a capitalist. | ||
| What I mean by capitalist means you own a little piece of the action, right? | ||
| You got to own a piece of the action. | ||
| And here, this is going to be the point of attack. | ||
| So the first, all of the transition, what is a transition? | ||
| A transition, you basically have 80 days, about 80 days left. | ||
| To about 80 days, 80 some days, to put together an entire government. | ||
| What do I mean by that? | ||
| Let's go back so you understand some basic architectonics. | ||
| The federal government right now is essentially a $7 trillion a year cash money going through the system, but it's massively bigger than that with the assets. | ||
| The Department of Interior owns half of the West government land. | ||
| The asset side of the balance sheet is massive, right? | ||
| Then you have an income statement. | ||
| You have, you know, we raise $5 trillion, we spend $7 trillion, so you've got basically a $2 trillion gap that goes to debt. | ||
| That debt has to be financed. | ||
| Inside the apparatus itself, you have about two, let's say two and a half million, two and a half million civilians. | ||
| You have about two million or so military. | ||
| Those are directly on the payroll. | ||
| So you have four, four and a half, five million, let's say, folks directly on payroll. | ||
| But then, and this is how the military got off of trying to get guys off, Men and women off because they don't want to pay the retirement, they don't want to pay the benefits, they can't take care of the healthcare. | ||
| We have about 18 million contractors. | ||
| Now half of those contractors are the SEI guys, the guys that clean the buildings, maintain the buildings, keep all this up and do other service related things. | ||
| You know, essentially nine million, half of them are in some sort of contractual position. | ||
| And I am told, let's say four million of those, or five million, are actually at kind of an executive level. | ||
| This is all very, a little bit amorphous because they don't want you to actually know the number. | ||
| So essentially, it kind of makes sense. | ||
| So we have... | ||
| About 4 or 5 million employees, either military or civilian, right? | ||
| And you have about another 4 or 5 million contractors. | ||
| So let's say, and these are round numbers, let's say you have 8 to 10 million folks, billets, that run what we call the government and every aspect of it. | ||
| And this thing is vast. | ||
| The current administration, whether it's Obama or whether it's Bush or whether it's Biden or Trump 1 or Trump 2, you have 4,000 people. | ||
| Now you've got committees and commissions, but basically 4,000 people. | ||
| 3,000 of those... | ||
| Do not have to be confirmed by the Senate. | ||
| They literally are at the working level, that level beyond either cabinet secretaries or just below cabinet secretaries or the head of the bureau of prison, the deputy, and just below that. | ||
| These are the people that kind of, you come in and you manage part of that 8 or 10 million, right, that are doing stuff every day. | ||
| And you come in and you have departments. | ||
| So you have 3,000. | ||
| The process of what we call transition and what's happening down there now, and hey, and some of the knife fights right behind the scenes are staffing out those 3,000, of which approximately, I don't know, 100? | ||
| The NSC was 150, 200. | ||
| Let's say 300 or 400 of those are associated somehow with the White House or the White House staff. | ||
| And you'll see the chief of staff. | ||
| But the entire executive office building has got tons. | ||
| So the White House has the National Security Councils. | ||
| I guess we'd count OMB. It gets a little common. | ||
| It gets 3,000. | ||
| But it's basically a couple of hundred what we call White House staff. | ||
| And you see chief of staff and the major people up on the – and you have assistants to the president, which are a dozen that report at senior level. | ||
| I was senior counselor, chief strategist, and assistant to the president. | ||
| Those are the highest level. | ||
| There are 12 of them. | ||
| They basically report directly to the president or through the chief of staff to the president. | ||
| Or have what's called walk-in privileges that are directly to the president. | ||
| So you got the White House staff, and that's the one he sees every day and works for him every day. | ||
| Then you have the other branch of the government. | ||
| So you got basically 3,000 going day one, and those people can hit the deck plates running day one. | ||
| Part of Project 2025 was, hey, and these other groups out there was to get resumes and train people up and make sure we had networking going and we're doing all this so that you hit, unlike 16... | ||
| Boom! | ||
| You start working that in Mar-a-Lago, and they've got a whole transition office down there, they're working, interviewing people, here's your billet, networking, boom, boom, boom. | ||
| You're in energy, you know, and you're a subject matter expert. | ||
| You're in defense, boom, you're in intelligence, you're in commerce, you're in trade, you're in treasury. | ||
| In the big power departments, let's talk about the power departments. | ||
| The Treasury Department, the Attorney General, DOJ. You've got the Pentagon, right? | ||
| The Pentagon. | ||
| You've got the State Department, and you have DHS. Those are the power departments. | ||
| Then you've got Commerce and Labor and Interior. | ||
| They're all very important, don't get me wrong, but you've got the ones that move the big muscles are those. | ||
| Now we then have another 1,000. | ||
| Remember, 4,000, 3,000 and go. | ||
| And they have to get, look, you have to do due diligence. | ||
| You have to get your security clearances, right, where appropriate. | ||
| And that's all moved. | ||
| There's teams working on this. | ||
| And you have what's called landing teams. | ||
| And then you have a beachhead team. | ||
| And then you have the GO team. | ||
| A landing team will be selective of this, you know, you've got Lutnick and you've got McMahon are kind of the co-heads. | ||
| We've got a whole staff of people working on it. | ||
| The landing team will go over, like, next week. | ||
| The Biden guys will know, hey, we're here at Interior, and a landing team of people will come over and a half a dozen, and you'll start to do a transition. | ||
| Here's where we go. | ||
| Here's what we're doing right now. | ||
| Here's what we're working on. | ||
| And that landing team will start coordinating and feeding information back to the transition. | ||
| Now, the second phase of that, and this will come... | ||
| Closer to the inauguration day is then a beachhead team, right? | ||
| Landing a beachhead may reverse. | ||
| But what they are is more people, and they come in, and they can actually take the department. | ||
| Because remember, at high noon on the 20th, you relieve the watch. | ||
| They all go. | ||
| And you've got to be there. | ||
| I mean, I remember I got briefed by the NSC guys because just like as a naval officer, when you go to a destroyer in the middle of the night, you know, as a young kid, you basically get up out of your rack and the red light's everywhere. | ||
| It's, you know, it's dark and ship. | ||
| And you go get a cup of coffee and you're going to go have the mid-watch. | ||
| So you get up about 11 o'clock or 1030. | ||
| You get a cup of coffee, go up to combat information, combat, and you're sitting there and you just hang around. | ||
| You see what the position of the ships, the message traffic, where are we? | ||
| Boom, boom, boom. | ||
| Where are the targets? | ||
| And you sit there, you get acclimated, and you know what's going on. | ||
| You sit there with the CIC officer. | ||
| Then you go up in the bridge. | ||
| And you're going to leave the officer of the deck. | ||
| You've got a junior officer of the deck. | ||
| Your junior officer's over there. | ||
| You're there in the chart. | ||
| You've got the quarter masses. | ||
| Boom, boom, boom. | ||
| You're going through everything. | ||
| When you turn at 1145, or in this case 2345, and you say, you know, this is Lieutenant J.G. Bannon. | ||
| You know, I've got the deck and the con. | ||
| You salute. | ||
| Legally, they put it down. | ||
| It's on you. | ||
| You got it. | ||
| The guy you just relieved, he walks off, you hit something right then, or you run over something right then, or somebody falls overboard, that's on you. | ||
| The Washington Post, when they're doing the checkings on me, because who's this banning guy? | ||
| Was he ever even in the military? | ||
| They had a whole article. | ||
| They had gone to the National Archives to get the bridge log of the USS Paul F. Foster DD-964, my destroyer. | ||
| They actually recreated... | ||
| When I was an officer of the deck in the Straits of Hormuz into the Persian Gulf, we were doing kind of forward air radar support for the hostage crisis. | ||
| We hadn't launched yet. | ||
| They actually recreated the entire scene on the bridge from the log. | ||
| My point... | ||
| Before high noon on the 20th of January of 2025, when Donald Trump puts his hand on his family's King James Bible and raises the right one, a whole group of people will relieve the watch. | ||
| And at one minute after that, it's Trump's, and this is all being worked, and very few or none of the top guys will be confirmed. | ||
| Because that's a whole nother process. | ||
| So we're going to talk transition, what it means, and how you can help the President of the United States or the President-elected United States. | ||
| I guess he's President, he's our President, since 2020. | ||
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Short break. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Van. | ||
| Okay, so this is all about, remember, controlling the government, or when you say controlling the government, Trump's just got 4,000 people. | ||
| This is why when you sit in the Oval Office and you make decisions, do you think that the apparatus is going to sit there and give you a cheery eye eye and go, okay, fine, I got what it's going to do? | ||
| No! | ||
| This is what we talk about. | ||
| The administrative state is this massive bureaucracy that the founders and framers never envisioned. | ||
| And that's what the Chevron exemption has done. | ||
| So the courts have said, hey, guess what? | ||
| The bureaucrats don't run themselves. | ||
| Either the courts make these decisions, or this has empowered Congress, and quite frankly, even the executive branch, if you want to cut the size of the Leviathan, Dave Brat, you've got to take programs out. | ||
| You've got to deconstruct the administrative state. | ||
| This is why Russ Vogt The great Russ Vogt, to me, has got to be OMB. He was OMB, the second OMB under Trump. | ||
| This is how good Russ Vogt was. | ||
| He was Mulvaney's deputy, and I'm not a Mulvaney fan. | ||
| And Mulvaney's not a Bannon fan, just to make sure we're on the same... | ||
| I'm not taking a cheap shot. | ||
| But in June of 2017, I set up a mini-war room over in the EOB And guess what we were doing? | ||
| We were walking through the mathematics about shutting down the government on September 30th. | ||
| September 30th is coming up. | ||
| I said, hey, we're never going to get a consensus on a new budget. | ||
| They're fighting us every step of the way. | ||
| We want to get to a balanced budget. | ||
| Within $300 billion, we can do it. | ||
| There's going to be a huge fight by Paul Ryan. | ||
| Remember Paul Ryan speaking of the House of Mitch McConnell? | ||
| They're telling us up in their face it's not going to happen. | ||
| So at the time, I'm telling Trump, let's push it. | ||
| Let's go to the thing. | ||
| And Russ votes the guy at OMB. Deputy OMB comes in and has all these flow charts, all these waterfalls that show, hey, we're not going to default. | ||
| Plenty of cash comes in. | ||
| You can make all your contractual debt obligations. | ||
| You pay the interest, pay the face amount. | ||
| You stroll down. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| There may be a couple, three programs down there that you've got to tap along. | ||
| But that is what the staff does and OMB does. | ||
| That's what's helping working with the president every day, different alternatives and kind of managing the government. | ||
| And OMB, and I think you get X amount of political appointees, they have a vast, they have like a 3,000, they have like a 3,000 person, you know, apparatus. | ||
| So this is what's happening right now. | ||
| I talk about the knife fight. | ||
| What people are fighting for are two basic things right now. | ||
| And when I say it's a knife fight, it's always kind of a knife fight, Biden and him have it, because you have different philosophies, even on the winners. | ||
| We are still a coalition of MAGA and hardcore MAGA and ultra MAGA, but you still have RINOs, you still have establishment, and look, to be brutally frank about it, the people that wrote checks, and particularly towards the end, hey, they all have economic interests in making sure that their needs are provided. | ||
| It's a very imperfect world. | ||
| I'd love to be Pollyanna here and tell you that we can get all magnets. | ||
| This is not going to happen now. | ||
| What you have to do is pick inside the apparatus those nodes of real power, of which I'm not going to mention because we're wearing those nodes and some of these guys. | ||
| But I think from President Trump's perspective – and here's a guy that's been through it for four freaking years. | ||
| Think of the – I tell people, the tension – Like last night when I gave that speech, that's a little 500 speech thing, but you get so jacked up on adrenaline. | ||
| He's doing it for hours four and five times a day at 78 years old. | ||
| Will you give it up? | ||
| Who can do that? | ||
| That's superhuman, okay? | ||
| And to get on the plane and go do it again and be so clear and so funny? | ||
| At the others, hey, I spent four months in a federal prison just for a misdemeanor. | ||
| This guy's got 92 felonies. | ||
| He was in court for almost a year, dragged into court and ripped apart in front of national TV and the media. | ||
| Remember, they're all out there, and they're all giddy and dancing around and skipping around. | ||
| The American people came back with the verdict. | ||
| They're the jury, and they said, screw you. | ||
| We want this guy. | ||
| But just the tension and all that. | ||
| So President Trump, who has super energy, clearly, I mean, most guys take a couple weeks off. | ||
| He's still down in Mar-a-Lago taking the meetings. | ||
| But I think what he wants is just peace in his camp. | ||
| And I think he deserves that. | ||
| Now, we're going to fight as hard as possible, but I think there has to be a rapprochement with the people that are working on it. | ||
| Everybody's got the overall interest of the country in their mind and President Trump in their mind as they see it. | ||
| Or as Lincoln said, as God gives you the right to see it, right? | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| The second inaugural address? | ||
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Yep. | |
| So this is, and the staff is everything, and the transition is everything. | ||
| Right now, of course, you've got the leadership in the House. | ||
| You have the leadership in the Senate. | ||
| But because you're part of this show and have been part of this show and have been the drivers of action to use your agency, you are a decision maker. | ||
| You are. | ||
| You're not dialed out. | ||
| You know, we... | ||
| Hey, and I realize it happened during the show, but we came out for Susie Wiles and against McCarthy and Jeff Miller, the swamp. | ||
| And is Susie perfect? | ||
| No, she's a DeSantis person and a Bush person. | ||
| I got that. | ||
| But you look at, remember, you're making decisions here on alternatives that kind of exist. | ||
| Are there better MAGA people who might make a better chief of staff? | ||
| Hey, maybe. | ||
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But President Trump kind of wanted her. | |
| Doesn't he get a vote? | ||
| Doesn't he get a say-so? | ||
| Hasn't he done enough? | ||
| He's about to go into a new firestorm. | ||
| Remember, please, take the number two pencil out and just write. | ||
| November of 2026. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Because you're going to have 50 people on each side running for president for 28. | ||
| And they're not going to announce it after. | ||
| But November of 26th. | ||
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Okay? | |
| Because this is all process. | ||
| Hakeem Jeffries is going to come in with $10 billion to win a handful of seats to become Speaker of the House. | ||
| And he's going to sit there in the first action. | ||
| He's going to promise Reid Hoffman, I'm the last line of defense, but I'll get Trump. | ||
| I'll get Trump. | ||
| And I'll impeach him. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| And I'll get him removed. | ||
| So doesn't President Trump rate Trump? | ||
| So when you pull this whole thing together and then hit on the 20th with what Robert Bartley used to call muzzle velocity on any decision so that you can own it and force it out through an apparatus that's going to be your natural enemy. | ||
| Because they realize we're coming for the administrative state and the deep state. | ||
| We're going to deconstruct the administrative state. | ||
| Root out, destroy root and branch the deep state. | ||
| Those are pretty tall orders. | ||
| At the same time, you save the country financially and economically. | ||
| Oh, by the way, deport 15 million, think about that for a second, 15 million illegal alien invaders welcomed in here by an American government. | ||
| Okay, the man comes around. | ||
| Take us out. |
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