Nov. 8, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is what you're fighting for. | ||
| I mean, every day you're out there. | ||
| What they're doing is blowing people off. | ||
| If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians get total control and total power. | ||
| Because this is just like in Arizona. | ||
| This is just like in Georgia. | ||
| It's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations. | ||
| This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged. | ||
| As we've told you, this is the fight. | ||
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All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth. | |
| War Room. | ||
| Battleground. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, it's Thursday, 7 November, year of our Lord, 2024. | ||
| Welcome to the War Room for the second hour of our late afternoon, early evening coverage. | ||
| A lot going on. | ||
| Julie Kelly's going to join us here in a second. | ||
| I want to make sure that you check out Scott Best. | ||
| A lot going on today. | ||
| Powell announced he ain't stepping down, and he just dared Trump to fire him. | ||
| He says, you can't fire me. | ||
| I've got a 10-year term, and you're just going to have to deal with it. | ||
| I think they cut rates another 25 basis points. | ||
| But the big thing is showing that not only are they going to continue with easy money, that Powell's not leaving. | ||
| I think that might lead to a confrontation. | ||
| We'll have to see. | ||
| But... | ||
| To understand it, go to birchgold.com, birchgold.com slash Bannon, enter the dollar empire. | ||
| You'll understand the whole concept of easy money. | ||
| But most importantly, you can talk to Philip Patrick and the team about gold as a hedge against financial turbulence. | ||
| Because I think we're going to go through a little financial turbulence, right? | ||
| Because we're going to pay the price for modern monetary theory, this reckless, reckless, reckless, Theory that came out of France about capital and particularly about spending. | ||
| They said, hey, you can raise all these deficits. | ||
| It can be huge. | ||
| If you ever start having economic problems, you can just raise taxes and cover it all. | ||
| It doesn't work like that. | ||
| So make sure you go check it out. | ||
| Also, Tax Network. | ||
| Go to tnusa.com slash Bannon. | ||
| That's tnusa.com slash Bannon. | ||
| Tax Network USA. Don't believe when the letters come from the IRS... If you just put it in the drawer, it's not going to go away. | ||
| The interest is building and the penalties and the fees are building. | ||
| You have to address it. | ||
| The best way to do it, you'll fill out some things basically, they kind of curate to make sure that you're even somebody that should be using their service. | ||
| And then you talk to a consultant and they walk you through it. | ||
| What they try to do is cap the payments, maybe cut the face amount, cap your interest payments and work at a payment deal. | ||
| You need professionals that do it all the time. | ||
| It's impossible for you to, I should say, very hard. | ||
| But don't take it from me. | ||
| Call them. | ||
| Go to tnusa.com. | ||
| Talk to the expert now. | ||
| Do not let that sit in a drawer. | ||
| Trust me, the IRS is going to get some money. | ||
| So you either get all your money or they get less. | ||
| And the way you do that is using Tax Network USA. Go check it out. | ||
| On the weaponization of the lawfare weaponization and kind of the deep state being triggered, I guess last night somebody said, used us, took our name in vain and said that the problem with war room and the problem with Bannon is they believe in this phony concept of the deep state. | ||
| Natalie, is that... | ||
| Not just somebody, the guy who runs Media Matters, Madeline Peltz's boss. | ||
| And then he actually gave you a name check saying that you were the architect of a lot of this, but that we're actually victims, I think we should apologize to the audience, of spreading misinformation, informing them that there is a deep state. | ||
| Spreading misinformation one or two years in a row with the Stanford Observatory, the Brookings, New York Times. | ||
| Yes, but there's an interesting... | ||
| I want to read you the quote. | ||
| Does that get you a discount at the Washington spas? | ||
| Saying, no, they charge me extra. | ||
| You know I'm going to dog you now. | ||
| Oh, just doing research to see if these people are feeling sad. | ||
| So bad. | ||
| I was in the gym working out listening to MSNBC to make me mad so I have a better workout and I overheard them saying that all the spas... | ||
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I got it. | |
| That was information from MSNBC. I'm going to tee you up, though, for a rant. | ||
| Okay, good. | ||
| I'm ready. | ||
| From the Bulwark. | ||
| Tim Miller. | ||
| Tim Miller. | ||
| Pukas or pearls? | ||
| On Twitter, so I don't know. | ||
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Okay, okay. | |
| President Biden bet everything on the innate goodness of the American people we should learn from his mistake, saying that he was wrong. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And that's why Kamala won. | ||
| Tim Miller, if the staff can check in, he was heckling me the other day. | ||
| He bookmarked something I said. | ||
| I've got to find out. | ||
| Somebody can get that to Natalie. | ||
| She can read it on air. | ||
| Let's go to Julie Kelly. | ||
| Julie, the hunted become the hunters, ma'am. | ||
| I think you put a shot across the bow of one Jack Smith and like, hey Jack, don't wander too far. | ||
| You'll be needed in Washington. | ||
| Tell me what is happening. | ||
| Because Jack Smith is ready to drop a superseding indictment on Trump and, I don't know, eight of his co-conspirators if he lost yesterday. | ||
| All of a sudden, he feels like he's got to get out of town. | ||
| Why is that, ma'am? | ||
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Correct. | |
| So I have a piece of my sub stack declassified with Julie Kelly that walks through potential criminal investigation into Jack Smith, the special counsel's office, which, by the way, Steve and Natalie, has spent roughly $50 million in two years on pursuing both of these cases. | ||
| Now, keep in mind, this does not include what the Department of Justice spent before Jack Smith was appointed in November of 2022. | ||
| We could be talking about criminal investigation that cost us $100 million at the end of the day to investigate Donald Trump, his associates, conduct all of these grand jury proceedings in Washington, D.C., and then move forward with the prosecution in southern Florida for classified documents in Washington related to the events of January 6th. | ||
| Now, Jack Smith, to your point, Steve, we've talked about this repeatedly. | ||
| Jack Smith was preparing not just to advance The existing January 6 case in Washington, but to add to it, to finally bring criminal charges against the five unnamed, unindicted co-conspirators there, and add seditious conspiracy counts up to that indictment. | ||
| Now, Fox News and others reporting that Jack Smith is trying to figure out a way, working with the DOJ, to drop both of those cases. | ||
| And, of course, that's because longstanding DOJ rules, this is the excuse, that you cannot prosecute a sitting president, which you can't. | ||
| Of course, we've never had criminal indictment of a former president either, but, you know, DOJ chartered new territory under the Biden, Harris, Merrick Garland Department of Justice. | ||
| So, but look, that can't be the end of it, right? | ||
| Steve and Natalie, as I've covered both trials, as you know, and you've covered my work, I attended numerous court hearings in Florida. | ||
| I attended every court hearing in Washington, plus reviewed all the documents. | ||
| There is evidence of prosecutorial misconduct, especially in the classified documents case, which of course included the armed nine-hour raid of Mar-a-Lago, where agents, evidence of agents violating the terms of the search warrant by ransacking Melania Trump's bedroom and Darren Trump's bedroom And other areas that they were not authorized to search. | ||
| And then, of course, evidence destruction, evidence of evidence destruction in that case, tampering, threatening a witness, misleading the court, including Judge Cannon. | ||
| So that whole case is rife with evidence of criminality by the special counsel's office. | ||
| It demands investigation and accountability and a full audit into where $50 million went, including millions of dollars of unspecified contract services that Smith includes in his bare bones report that he's required to file. | ||
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Let me go back. | |
| I want to go back to if President Trump had lost, you said he was going to put through a superseding indictment with five additional co-conspirators and additional charges on President Trump. | ||
| Is that what you're saying? | ||
| I believe that he would have. | ||
| You know, he was burned, obviously, by the Supreme Court's ruling in Trump versus U.S., the landmark immunity ruling that was handed out on July 1, which gutted big parts of Jack Smith's existing indictment, right? | ||
| Because they said, especially the DOJ, Donald Trump's interactions with his DOJ, Jeffrey Clark's activity as a Department of Justice official all fell within the scope of official duties. | ||
| That's core constitutional authority of the president. | ||
| So Jackson had to go back to his first indictment. | ||
| He had to gut out the DOJ-related stuff. | ||
| He left in communications with Mike Pence, etc. | ||
| But it's such a bare-bone indictment at this point that it wasn't going to go anywhere between immunity and the 1512c2 ruling. | ||
| Which is half of the counts in that indictment. | ||
| The Supreme Court was going to just toss that whole cloth. | ||
| So, in my view, he was going to come up with additional charges, including seditious conspiracy, which DOJ successfully convicted multiple people of the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers cases of that very rare statute. | ||
| So he was going to keep coming up with additional charges. | ||
| There's no reason why he wouldn't. | ||
| Because Steve and Natalie, as we've seen, not only Jack Smith, but this DOJ and federal court, federal judges, completely defying the Supreme Court's ruling in both Fisher and the immunity case. | ||
| Judge Chudkin basically was laughing at that ruling in her courthouse. | ||
| I was there September 5th. | ||
| She's low-key mocking the decision and saying, well, I didn't read it that way. | ||
| And saying, well, no matter what I say as this case proceeds, I'm going to get reversed. | ||
| So she didn't care. | ||
| So they were going to completely open up the floodgates if Kamala Harris had won and double down in both this case and the classified documents case. | ||
| Now, of course, remember Judge Cannon dismissed that case in July, seeing that Special Counsel Jack Smith had been unconstitutionally appointed. | ||
| The DOJ is appealing that decision before the 11th Circuit. | ||
| Well, now what happens? | ||
| He's going to drop both cases, apparently. | ||
| Even if he doesn't, he knows that a Trump DOJ would go back, drop the Washington case, and then, of course, drop its appeal of Judge Pannon's order, dismissing classified documents case. | ||
| So that's for Jack Smith in the special counsel office right now. | ||
| He thinks he's going to just drop these cases and, what, go back to The Hague? | ||
| Can't pretend that he's this really successful war crimes prosecutor. | ||
| Guy's a stone-cold loser, which I also detail in my piece. | ||
| His record before the Supreme Court, not just this year but previously, overturned unanimously his conviction of Robert McDonald and his wife hung jury, not a single conviction of his prosecution, vengeful prosecution of former Senator John Edwards, who dared to challenge Barack Obama in the Democratic primary in 2008. | ||
| Also no convictions in his pursuit. | ||
| The first trial against Senator Robert Menendez. | ||
| The guy's a complete failure. | ||
| Yet they put him in charge of $50 million of our tax money. | ||
| He had his own protective detail as he walked around Washington and also at his home. | ||
| So this guy is rogue and dirty. | ||
| As you get, so were his prosecutors. | ||
| Jay Brett, David Harbaugh, Molly Gaston. | ||
| Tom Windham, all of you, all of your records, as you like to say, Steve, all your communications, all the stunts that you pulled in court, Jay Brat, in court and behind the scenes, trying to threaten one of Donald Trump's top closest aides to flip and become a government cooperator, Walt Nada. | ||
| This all has to be vetted. | ||
| And, of course, top of the list is the unlawful, egregious armed raid of Mar-a-Lago, which then Jack Smith later admitted that they mishandled the evidence that had been collected out of Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| They doctored the records, remember, bringing the cover sheets to the raid and then attaching them to files, taking pictures of it and leaking it, putting it in a court document so the press would pick up on it. | ||
| The FBI agents brought those cover sheets to pull a stunt. | ||
| Those agents need to be interviewed as to why they did that. | ||
| Were the underlying documents actually matched the classified cover sheet that you put on it? | ||
| How did you know that it was top secret or any of the other labels that were used? | ||
| Why did you rummage through Melania's bedroom suite and Barron's bedroom and their gym and their kitchen? | ||
| And also, Why did you endanger the lives of the people at Mar-a-Lago by having 30 armed agents there for nine hours looking for government papers and including The DOJ-FBI use of lethal force policy in the FBI race plan. | ||
| Use of lethal force. | ||
| They had a triage plan. | ||
| They were going to take them to the, if they got hurt or wounded, they were going to take them to a hospital. | ||
| They had the whole thing laid. | ||
| And then they said just normal operating procedure. | ||
| Hey, going to a president's winter retreat is not normal operating procedure. | ||
| Everything they said is lying. | ||
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Let me ask you, Julie Kelly. | |
| Should the president's attorney general, what they do is, should they appoint a special prosecutor to go after, and let's give it a broad term, weaponization of government, so then you can look into a lot of these things. | ||
| You have subpoena power, they go to grand juries, they get a budget. | ||
| Should President Trump toss it to his attorney general or his DAG? And they appoint a special prosecutor that focuses on Jack Smith. | ||
| This would really be the hunted becoming the hunters, would it not, ma'am? | ||
| It would. | ||
| And quite honestly, you know, I'm not an attorney, so I'm not sure what the best approach would be. | ||
| The problem, too, with appointing a special counsel is now we have precedent, you know, that special counsel would have to be appropriately appointed. | ||
| Jack Smith was not. | ||
| He's never been confirmed by the Senate. | ||
| Past special counsels have been approved by the Senate because they were U.S. attorneys, whether it's Robert Herr or David Weiss or John Durham. | ||
| They were all confirmed by the Senate. | ||
| Jack Smith never was. | ||
| So I guess that could be a consideration, but would that slow the process is the question, I guess. | ||
| And I don't see a reason why there would be a conflict that would necessitate a special counsel Then to your point, just the DOJ or the DC, whoever the new DCO's attorney is after Matthew Graves has thankfully bounced, could they conduct that investigation? | ||
| Julie, Kelly, where did they go? | ||
| If we can put the article up, if Grace Chung and the team can push it out, where do they go to get all your reporting, ma'am? | ||
| It's quite brilliant, and there's going to be a lot. | ||
| Listen, all this has got to be done with transparency. | ||
| It's all got to be adjudicated fairly, but there's an awful lot here that has to be looked into, particularly the weaponization of the apparatus against President Trump and his colleagues. | ||
| Ma'am, where do they go? | ||
| There's so much. | ||
| And also, Steve, you know, we're working on the J6 part in that project as well. | ||
| So there's going to be a lot to that as well. | ||
| Declassified with Julie Kelly at Substack, Real Clear Investigations. | ||
| And of course, Twitter, Julie underscore Kelly, too. | ||
| Steve, it is so good to have you back, to hear your voice, to be on with you. | ||
| Natalie, you are a star. | ||
| You did such a stellar job. | ||
| I know Steve's super proud of you. | ||
| And I just want to commend you again for stepping in and filling in that role because it's not easy. | ||
| But you did it well, and you did it with apparent ease. | ||
| And thanks so much, you guys, for having me on tonight. | ||
| Thank you, Julie. | ||
| Look forward to having you back. | ||
| Thoughts on what you just heard here about the hunted become the hunters? | ||
| Well, it's quite interesting, I think, when you juxtapose how much, shall we call it, transparency and just, frankly, an invasion they wanted into President Trump's life, buildings, finances, everything. | ||
| What about the assassination attempts? | ||
| They don't really want to investigate those. | ||
| If it wasn't for the Senate, we wouldn't have anything. | ||
| Yeah, maybe we need some sort of special counsel, special investigative powers to go into those two instances. | ||
| Love that I have to qualify theirs too. | ||
| But to that point, the second one, Ryan Routh, the weird Ukrainian paramilitary force dude, it's just breaking now that his lawyers have filed a protective order trying to essentially withhold the disclosure of any documents produced in Discovery. | ||
| They're saying because there's no proof that it exists, but there could potentially be I can say child porn. | ||
| Child porn on his devices. | ||
| We're not saying it's there, but his lawyers are saying it's there. | ||
| No one said it's there. | ||
| But the lawyers said it may be there. | ||
| It could be. | ||
| So as a result of that, therefore the American people should not be able to see it. | ||
| Yeah, but other than that, there's no protective order. | ||
| So you would assume his lawyers are saying there may be child porn on his devices. | ||
| The son was arrested for child porn. | ||
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Okay, fine. | |
| Just like the day after the assassination attempt. | ||
| The special, by the way, we're working on DeGrasse and others to get him up. | ||
| We've got to talk about the house. | ||
| Obviously, that's quite important. | ||
| I do think... | ||
| Greater legal minds than mine and greater minds about the Constitution, I think, are working through these issues about special prosecutors and who needs to actually be confirmed and not confirmed. | ||
| I do believe that we have to have a very formal process. | ||
| I think Jack Smith, we have to look into Jack Smith's activity. | ||
| I think Merrick Garland. | ||
| I think Merrick Garland. | ||
| For a host of things, it has to be thoroughly investigated, should lawyer up, of activities under his reign of terror over the Department of Justice. | ||
| I mean, your thoughts? | ||
| Well, if we're talking about the weaponization of government, I think we should also bring up Anthony Fauci. | ||
| I'd also throw him in there as someone who definitely needs to be investigated, maybe look into the ethics chief wife who still holds her position, the National Institutes of Health. | ||
| But I think you nailed something earlier this morning, right? | ||
| The Alex Wagner, the long mantra monologue about how the left was forced to become the defenders of the institutions. | ||
| That's a limited hangout. | ||
| They didn't just defend them. | ||
| They full-blown, full-scale, next-level, to the nth degree, weaponized them against the American people. | ||
| And I think going forward, I think we need to be very clear that we will not let them sort of repaint or do some revisionist history where the mandate, the operations carried out by the Jack Smiths of the world— I don't even want to use the word unconstitutional because that's too nice a term, right? | ||
| But that this is weaponization that a form this country has never seen before. | ||
| And it was full spectrum, not dominance, but coordination. | ||
| Right? | ||
| The way that the media laid in, the way that the outside sort of activist type organizations really piled into the point that they had coordinated smear campaigns going after lawyers who dared to even just identify or associate with President Trump. | ||
| And I think it's that axis that you have to go after, not just because it's about Jack Smith, right? | ||
| But it's about the broader weaponization, not just of government, but of civil society, that there's going to be a very close alignment, frankly, I think, with the civil society that is right now forming. | ||
| It's going to be styled in the form of the Jack Smiths of the world. | ||
| And much like with COVID-19, where we laid down the precedent and we said, you know, by having a big tent coalition with people like Malone and Naomi Wolf, right? | ||
| You're not going to get away with doing this again, right? | ||
| There's no, in the words of the Atlantic, when they called for pandemic amnesty, there's no pandemic amnesty just like there's no weaponization amnesty. | ||
| And I think you're going to start to see that narrative sort of come out, right? | ||
| What they were doing was trying to just save democracy. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| What you were doing was trying to destroy, let's be clear, the constitutional republic. | ||
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Amen. | |
| The patriarchy clip is longer. | ||
| I'll do that at the bottom of the hour. | ||
| We'll come back. | ||
| Do we have DeGrasse or do we have Mark Mitchell? | ||
| Alex DeGrasse is with us? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Can I go to Alex DeGrasse? | ||
| Is he calling in by phone? | ||
| I guess you're traveling. | ||
| Alex DeGrasse! | ||
| Everything hangs in. | ||
| They keep reporting on the Senate and the Senate seats, which are very important, and Carrie Lakes hangs in the balance. | ||
| Casey has already said with Mark Elias, they're not doing the town of Pennsylvania against McCormick. | ||
| So there's going to be... | ||
| What's urgent, we do control the Senate right now. | ||
| The House, we control, but are we going to hold it? | ||
| Because there's a lot of voices on the Democratic side saying, that is their ticket. | ||
| That's the instrument that they will use to bring down MAGA and President Trump. | ||
| Can you update us, sir? | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
| So, like I said, morning of, I thought we would be, you know, at best, maybe up three or four. | ||
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I think we're looking at up two, a net two. | |
| I'm going to go through the numbers right now. | ||
| Associated Press has called 209 seats. | ||
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With the redistricting, we're plus one. | |
| And then on top of that, we have one, Arizona one, Arizona six. | ||
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California 22, California 40, California 41, California 45, Iowa 1, Nebraska 2, Washington 4, all locked. | |
| That gets us to 220. | ||
| So, you know, sorry, 219, I apologize. | ||
| So right now, 219 comfortable with nothing that's sort of up in the air. | ||
| So let me say that again. | ||
| We've got 209 according to AP. We netted one on redistricting thanks to the policy and the team. | ||
| We've got nine, but I just listed the names that we're definitely going to win. | ||
| Now let's go to the up in the air category because no one's slapped. | ||
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We've got more people out there carrying ballots. | |
| Hang on. | ||
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. | |
| Full stop. | ||
| Full stop. | ||
| I just want people to understand this. | ||
| According to Alex DeGrasse and the Associated Press, we are at 219, which is two seats more than we need to control the House of Representatives. | ||
| So you and Stefanik and Johnson and this crowd are sitting there going, it's not a big margin, but we've got this right now, and you're going to talk to me how we're going to add to it. | ||
| You're saying we have the House right now at 219, and we're going to add to it, but we don't have any fear right now of losing the House? | ||
| No, no fear, unless something insane happens. | ||
| But all of those, good to go. | ||
| Those are absolutely going to win, and the Associated Press will call them soon. | ||
| I can go over those numbers again. | ||
| Arizona 1, Arizona 6, California 22, California 40, California 41, California 45, Iowa 1, Nebraska 2, Washington 4. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Okay, now let's get into what's sort of in the flux here, okay? | ||
| We've got two that we're very favored in. | ||
| That's Alaska. | ||
| So we should put that to bed, but just not going to say that. | ||
| And then Colorado, which we're sending everyone curing ballots, 1,800 ballots to It's all hands on deck. | ||
| We've like, everyone in the Republican Party is heading out there. | ||
| It's a tech secure state. | ||
| If you're in Colorado, you're in Aurora, which really has become a hub for the MAGA movement, Aurora, where you had the legal immigration issues and the apartments. | ||
| If we flip the seat, it's huge. | ||
| The Democrat sort of stronghold that we had targeted. | ||
| And we're in the lead. | ||
| But I think this thing could be decided, Steve, 100, 200 votes, either which way. | ||
| I'd rather be us than them. | ||
| But let's just say we put that up. | ||
| That gets us to 221. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| We've got three true toss-ups. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| We've got our boy Joe Kent. | ||
| I feel great about it. | ||
| I think we're probably favored, but it's just so much outstanding you don't know. | ||
| But I feel good about it. | ||
| I think we'll have a better read on it on Monday. | ||
| So let's pray. | ||
| And if anything we can do to cure ballots, I'm not sure what the rules are there, so I apologize. | ||
| But it's all hands on deck. | ||
| We've got two in California, California 13 and California 47 that are really kind of true toss ups. | ||
| And then we've got lean Democrat, which I think are kind of out of our way, but we'll see what's up. | ||
| And you've got some three other California seats, Maryland, which still isn't called and Lori, I think, you know, it's sort of a toss up as well, but the numbers are tough. | ||
| And then Ohio nine obviously looks tough. | ||
| I'm not sure if he conceded an Oregon six. | ||
| So we're looking at, you know, I think a worst case, we lose one seat from where we're at right now, which would give us four votes, two seats. | ||
| Or I think, but look, let's just say we get half of those toss ups are one or two. | ||
| That gives us either where we're at or picking up one or two. | ||
| Best case, picking up two, ten votes, five seats. | ||
| But you could say, you feel that we may be at 222 to 213? | ||
| That could be the number? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it would be... | ||
| Yeah, exactly, yeah. | ||
| That's what's on the path. | ||
| That's pretty much what we feel great about. | ||
| I mean, you've got those three toss-ups. | ||
| And so from there, it's all good. | ||
| But I'm at DeGrass81. | ||
| This is super important. | ||
| People are locked in on this. | ||
| I mean, this is really what the conversation is about. | ||
| You guys are first to hear this news as I'm getting ballot dumps. | ||
| I can go on all day about the specifics. | ||
| I think 8 o'clock... | ||
| California time, 11 o'clock guard time. | ||
| Keep a look at California. | ||
| Let us know what's out there, Steve. | ||
| Isn't that interesting? | ||
| They don't even know. | ||
| So that's the game we're dealing with in California. | ||
| But thank you, Steve. | ||
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Add to grass, hitting one on X. Okay, let's get that on the Twitter feed. | |
| Everybody focus on 11 o'clock tonight. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to be back in the warm. | ||
| Looks like we got the house, folks. | ||
| And locked it up. | ||
| Short break. | ||
| Back in a moment. | ||
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This is not to say that so-called economic anxiety can explain away our country's embrace of racist and sexist demagoguing. | |
| In fact, it's quite the opposite. | ||
| Economic anxieties are a key part of an ideology that bemoans the loss of white male power, even as macho white dudes continue to dominate our politics. | ||
| In exit polls, white men without a college degree supported Donald Trump over Kamala Harris by 40 points. | ||
| Voters, including men and women who had served in the military, went for Trump over Harris by 31 points. | ||
| To that end, Pogue identifies another factor that I think motivates the MAGA movement, the reassertion of a white male warrior class. | ||
| As Pogue writes, you'll often hear in conservative circles that America's warrior class, which on the right is often believed to be from ethnically Scotch, Irish, disproportionately Southern families who treat military service as family heritage, That they have been the ones who bled to build our empire and ended up with NAFTA, fentanyl, and a coastal establishment that sees them and their values as backward and dangerous. | ||
| That was a key part of the message crafted by Trump accolades. | ||
| A white male warrior class. | ||
| I guess speaking of our white male warrior, don't worry, Stephen K. Bannon is still here. | ||
| I'm just bringing in the show. | ||
| I sent Steve that whole montage that Alex Wagner brought her show in with last night because I think thus far it's probably the best analysis I've seen sort of post-mortem of the election because it actually looks through the lens of the populist struggle. | ||
| Like we said, left-wing populism versus right-wing populism, though they never dare To go into the territory of immigration, which is why I think we'll continue to smoke them. | ||
| Do you want me to just tee off on the patriarchy stuff? | ||
| You roll. | ||
| I did this morning. | ||
| I said, oh my gosh, I'm going to get lit up for mansplaining to Alex Warren. | ||
| I like Alex Warren quite a bit. | ||
| Here's why I like her show. | ||
| She's very precise in her language. | ||
| She does her research. | ||
| I mean, she kind of looks like the kid to get all A's in the third grade, right? | ||
| Is there something wrong with her? | ||
| Yeah, no, no. | ||
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| I got the first ever A-plus at Harvard-Westlake. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| One of the best prep schools in the country. | ||
| And environmental science, so I had to lie and say climate change is real. | ||
| On your test. | ||
| I felt like they're going to get me for mansplaining this morning. | ||
| I think you're the best one to take it apart because I pulled up, somebody sent me something I said a few years ago and I said that the political contest in the future are going to be the Time's Up movement versus populism. | ||
| I saw this a couple of years ago when I was watching I think the Golden Globes With some of the Bloomberg guys, and Oprah said the whole thing was not just Time's Up and Me Too, and Time's Up was higher. | ||
| Me Too was kind of people that hit on these women in business situations or other situations in Hollywood, the Hollywood couch. | ||
| The Time's Up was different. | ||
| The Time's Up, it's the Time's Up for the patriarchy. | ||
| Just the raw hatred you've seen in the run-up to this about Trump represents the patriarchy. | ||
| I think someone smart like you can deconstruct it. | ||
| But I said a couple of years ago, you could see where this is going. | ||
| This was going to be the Time's Up, Handmaid's Tale crowd versus the populist nationalists. | ||
| And this is what I learned at Danbury with more African Americans and Hispanics and Latinos coming over. | ||
| I think we can get beyond race. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And you're going to have this gender fight. | ||
| You just start, look at some of these numbers, although Trump did extraordinarily well. | ||
| You'll move past that and we'll really get to economics, right, and power, which I think that's where the populist nationalist movement is really going to go next level, Natalie Winters. | ||
| Yeah, just to set the stage numbers wise, there's one of the lead stories in Axios today talking about how young men overwhelmingly went for President Trump in Pennsylvania. | ||
| Men under 30 plus 18 points for Trump. | ||
| Biden, for reference, was just he won it by nine. | ||
| It's doubling the margin, which when you add it up, it's what, 27 point swing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And double digit leads in both Michigan and North Carolina with that same demographic. | ||
| But I think to have this discussion of the sort of gendered politics, particularly when it comes to young men, I think you have it through two separate kind of silos. | ||
| One is through the matrix of persuasion and then one is the matrix of mobilization. | ||
| Right on the persuasion side, I think that's where you get into the sort of culture war stuff. | ||
| It harkens back to 2016, right, and talking about what is masculinity. | ||
| You obviously saw efforts to sort of redefine that, not just from the Harris campaign, but just more broadly, culturally, the left. | ||
| But then I think right now what you're hearing most of the discussion about this idea that, oh, it was the podcasts, it was the podcasts. | ||
| And I think that that is really more of an aftershock of what is a cultural earthquake that I think is encapsulated in part. | ||
| You're saying the podcast about the bro nature of the podcast? | ||
| Something birthed those podcasts, right? | ||
| Birthed the idea that men wanted to have, for lack of a better word, a safe space. | ||
| Right, camaraderie, and they could go into a safe space and hear other guys talk about manly topics. | ||
| Yeah, and I think one of the... | ||
| Like sports, whiskey, women, golf, all that, right? | ||
| Deconstructing the deep state. | ||
| I think one of the best moments, though, on this campaign to sort of reverse engineer where they went so wrong on gender, you know, when they had a full media meltdown about President Trump standing up there and saying, hey, women, I'm going to protect you whether you like it or not, right? | ||
| They put such a pejorative connotation on that. | ||
| When in reality, and maybe I'm a little, shall we say, trad, I know Alex Wagner used that word, but that is what traditional masculinity is. | ||
| This is trad. | ||
| This is trad? | ||
| I'm very trad. | ||
| From LA, you're trad? | ||
| From San Fernando Valley, you're trad? | ||
| San Fernando Valley? | ||
| What? | ||
| West Side. | ||
| West Side, Santa Monica. | ||
| You went to Harvard-Westlake, so that is on the west. | ||
| You've got to go across the hill. | ||
| Well, the lower campus is split. | ||
| I know, okay. | ||
| But I do think it is interesting because one of the refrains that you always heard from Harris was, I'm here to help you. | ||
| President Trump is here to enrich himself. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Government, we don't want you. | ||
| We don't want your help, right? | ||
| And I think that that chips away at fundamentally what the idea of masculinity is, right? | ||
| Someone like Kamala Harris coming in and helping you. | ||
| And in reality, I think what men want, particularly young men want, is the ability to protect the women that they love in their lives. | ||
| And the way that they protect women in their lives is not by... | ||
| Boy, but how can you say that? | ||
| And that was the total meltdown when President Trump said that. | ||
| Well, I'm here to protect you even if you don't. | ||
| But that shows you how far they've gone. | ||
| And I think when you broaden out that critique, it's not an attack explicitly or just only on men. | ||
| It really boils down to, I think, the nuclear family, right? | ||
| The idea of stripping that away. | ||
| And I think men are longing and yearning for the ability to have a family. | ||
| It's, of course, interlinked with the economic stuff, too. | ||
| But when she brings up, for example, to I think the military example, right? | ||
| She's saying, oh, these people feel like they've been deployed overseas and in return they've really seen no benefit. | ||
| These are the young men and women who've had to actually look guns in the eyes, not just have highfalutin rhetoric from President Trump about it. | ||
| Liz Cheney melts down. | ||
| And when you see the leaders who are responsible for sending these people overseas, Stab their families in the back by calling the supporters of the MAGA movement fascists, right? | ||
| Put it this way, if masculinity is what Mark Milley is, is what John Kelly is, then I don't think men want to be masculine, because that represents an inversion, right, of what it means to be a man. | ||
| And I remember sitting there when we were talking about the migrant invasion while you were in prison, and I said, the Democrats version, I don't know if you saw while you were in prison, I'll catch you up after the show, but... | ||
| They put out this ad, okay? | ||
| And it was the most dysgenic looking group of people. | ||
| I probably have higher testosterone levels than most of the men that they used in the ad, but that was their big appeal to men. | ||
| And it was like, you know, the Star Wars bar of people. | ||
| And that was what they thought was going to appeal to men, right? | ||
| It shows you how out of touch they are. | ||
| But I think their concept of masculinity is forcing men to sit in a cuck chair and watch their country be destroyed. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And they get off on it. | ||
| That's what they want. | ||
| They want to strip you of your agency. | ||
| So when Kamala Harris waltzes in there and says, hey, look, I'm going to help you. | ||
| The government's here to help. | ||
| No one wants that, but they fundamentally don't understand that. | ||
| I think the woke stuff is sort of a sideshow. | ||
| It's not as important. | ||
| I have an issue to get into. | ||
| Is Mark Mitchell waiting? | ||
| Is he up? | ||
| Do we have Mark Mitchell? | ||
| Ed Rasmussen? | ||
| He wants to come on. | ||
| He's got a lesson. | ||
| A real man. | ||
| A real pollster. | ||
| Let me go back. | ||
| I want to make sure because I want to see how much time I had. | ||
| People's heads are going to blow up because John Kelly is one of the most revered combat Marines. | ||
| He was the famous Marine General that went to Anbar Province and showed the Marines were the toughest tribe. | ||
| When you say to him about masculinity, Is it because of what he did with President Trump? | ||
| Is that what you're questioning his when you talk about manhood? | ||
| Well, two things. | ||
| I think that's part of it, but I think that that's a symptom of a bigger idea in which these people have subscribed and essentially, I think, ushered forward a concept of American regime, American statehood, where your average man, they don't care about their lives. | ||
| And it's obvious in the way that they deploy them everywhere, to every country, to every border except our own. | ||
| And I think the harshest and most offensive juxtaposition is when you see them treating our military like the equivalent of an international FEMA, where... | ||
| What matters to them, what marks an emergency, is if democracy in some Baltic nation that this country doesn't even care about is under siege, or if a couple of Russians are trickling over into Ukrainian territory, or if the pocketbooks and the profit margins of Boeing and Raytheon are being undercut. | ||
| That's what constitutes an emergency for them. | ||
| But juxtapose that with what happened in North Carolina. | ||
| Right? | ||
| You want to talk about a lack of masculinity? | ||
| The fact that the federal government did absolutely nothing and they hid behind mainstream media cameras and, you know, weird statements from Pete Buttigieg on Twitter saying that, no, what we're doing, we're actually, no, they told people to stand down and they hid behind the shroud of misinformation and tried to blame it on other people. | ||
| I think it is through those juxtapositions, the hypocrisy, the irony that people get really fundamentally mad. | ||
| And it's the blowback, not just to the feminist movement. | ||
| I've always thought discussions like that are reductive. | ||
| It's why I don't really wage into the culture or gender stuff. | ||
| But it's a salient political force. | ||
| And as much as, you know, Andrew Tate, love him, hate him, he tapped into that with young men. | ||
| There is a blowback, a kind of backlash to the over-promotion of feminism in the form of people like Kamala Harris even having a slim chance of becoming the commander-in-chief, woefully underqualified. | ||
| I don't even think she ever prosecuted a case. | ||
| We all know how she got to where she got to. | ||
| And then in the same breath, she laments the Me Too movement. | ||
| But the point is, there's a backlash to it. | ||
| And I think finally you saw the convergence of the matrix of Persuasion and mobilization. | ||
| Because young men hadn't been reached out to really before, because I think they thought they were so politically apathetic, right? | ||
| But they finally met them where they were. | ||
| And I think that's one of the sort of under-told stories of the campaign. | ||
| But it's why I also think, too, the media is also so on the back foot. | ||
| And this is interesting, too. | ||
| The Columbia Journalism Review, which you're talking about in 5 p.m., They put out their long-form article saying, oh, we need to endorse a Maddow-style resistance. | ||
| One of the ideas that they had... | ||
| With Maddow coming out and talking about the media, it's got to be the lead of resistance. | ||
| Yeah, I believe they coined Madalvian as an adjective, which I kind of like. | ||
| But they said that one of their potential solutions was creating a sort of, you know, grassroots, non-corporate-backed podcast network that's very left-wing heavy. | ||
| But it's why conservatives dominate on talk radio, right? | ||
| They can't do it without that. | ||
| So I don't really... | ||
| I think if they're thinking that, oh, the reason why Kamala Harris lost... | ||
| It's because she didn't go on Joe Rogan. | ||
| That's missing the forest for the trees. | ||
| That's a symptom, not the broader issue. | ||
| And it's not... | ||
| When we sell ourselves short, I think, when we spin the issue merely as, oh, it's, you know, trannies in women's sports or, oh, it's, you know, it's this. | ||
| Oh, it's at Harvard-Westlake. | ||
| They had more tranny bathrooms than kids who were trans. | ||
| You got to. | ||
| You got to have surge capacity. | ||
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| They were like, there's one. | ||
| Although, can I tell a real quick happy story? | ||
| So there was a kid who transitioned in my class because we had this crazy, short-haired, purple teacher. | ||
| And he literally told me the reason that I transitioned was because this teacher told me that I was non-binary, whatever, whatever. | ||
| And do you know what? | ||
| He, who became a she and then became a he again. | ||
| Came back and became a he. | ||
| Came back, became a... | ||
| Reverse transition. | ||
| Reverse transitioned and texted me on Tuesday night saying Trump with an American flag. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| What a great story that is. | ||
| I know. | ||
| And is the nephew of a rather famous Hollywood producer who I won't dox, but yeah. | ||
| So that was a happy moment. | ||
| But no, the gender stuff, I think, is it's not really a gender thing. | ||
| It's a symptom of of a culture and economic issue. | ||
| And I think that our side treats it rather reductively when we reduce it to to merely, you know, woke sports. | ||
| Talking about gender. | ||
| Let me go to a Tim Miller and a tweet from Tim Miller. | ||
| I'm going to let you handle this because I can't... | ||
| Okay, I'm listening. | ||
| I can't... | ||
| Last week at the Bannon Presser, several of his acolytes were adamant and private that the Dems would try to block Trump if he won. | ||
| It's probably too much to hope that any credit is given for respecting democracy and treating this transition in a manner Trump doesn't deserve. | ||
| I mean, we were sitting there saying that we know they're going to be contested if President Trump, if it's tight, like they're doing in Pennsylvania right now. | ||
| They're going to get a whole churn. | ||
| It's not if you take a blowout, right? | ||
| Well, first of all, Tim, you guys didn't take the House, so I'm sorry for your loss, but let's be frank. | ||
| But look, here's the thing. | ||
| We defended democracy in 2020 by doing the stuff, the steel stuff. | ||
| Obviously a couple people colored outside the lines. | ||
| I'm not defending those. | ||
| But what we did was democracy to its core. | ||
| And by the way, Tim, too, I don't even accept your premise because you guys are actively working to... | ||
| I would say subvert democracy in the sense that you guys are now organizing. | ||
| Yeah, it's your last ditch effort. | ||
| It's your last choice to only have civil society at your disposal. | ||
| But that's all that you have. | ||
| So the fact that you're not trying to do anything else, like, congrats, you don't control any other levels of power. | ||
| What does he mean treating this transition a manner Trump doesn't deserve? | ||
| Just seeing every night she's walking through, here's what the resistance has got to be. | ||
| They're already doing the hits on Massachusetts. | ||
| They're having private phone calls with the DHS secretary how they can import the maximum number of illegal aliens into this country. | ||
| Respect that transition. | ||
| How about, is that foreign election interference? | ||
| Is that democracy subversion, importing people from countries that consistently rank in the bottom 10 percentile of most Democratic countries? | ||
| I mean, Haiti, for example. | ||
| How about this, Tim? | ||
| Haiti hasn't had an election, I think, since 2016, and you support flying in, bussing in, shipping in tens of thousands of people into the most patriotic, red-blooded communities. | ||
| Where are all you democracy defenders? | ||
| How's that? | ||
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Unbelievable. | |
| They don't need to assimilate? | ||
| Jim Rickards has got the newsletter, this global newsletter that walks you through capital markets, geopolitics. | ||
| For the viewers and listeners of The War Room and the podcast, it's right up your alley. | ||
| You can go to Meltdown24. | ||
| That's all one word, Meltdown24.com over at Paradigm Press. | ||
| You can see all the different versions of the letter. | ||
| He's got special letters, professional letters. | ||
| He's got a general letter, I think comes out once a month. | ||
| We're going to try to get Rickards on tomorrow. | ||
| Is that what we're going to try to do? | ||
| Or if not, Saturday? | ||
| Tomorrow. | ||
| Okay, Jim Rickards or join us. | ||
|
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Also... | |
| Not tomorrow. | ||
| Not tomorrow. | ||
| Saturday or maybe next week. | ||
| Maybe sometime. | ||
| It's a busy man. | ||
| I'm busy man. | ||
| I'm getting stink-eye from our producer. | ||
| I was going to say. | ||
| Okay, let me reiterate. | ||
| No Jim Rickards or no Jim Rickards. | ||
| Maybe I'll get that CNBC. No, I'll leave that. | ||
| CNBC thing. | ||
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| Some of the people on our staff are getting... | ||
| The phone's blown up right now. | ||
| Some people that are in the engine room because they're saying, oh my gosh, Susie Wiles is a bushy. | ||
| You have to deal with the alternatives you have. | ||
| President Trump – and look, I laid out an alternative that he would go back to the – maybe what Jack Kennedy did. | ||
| They thought the Eisenhower administration was too stodgy. | ||
| So what Jack Kennedy did, particularly since he had his brother Bobby as the attorney general, his dad said, how about this? | ||
| Don't have a chief of staff who will become too powerful. | ||
| What you do is have an appointment secretary that kind of, you know, keeps control of the Oval Office, and Bobby can help you just do it. | ||
| He didn't have it. | ||
| That could have been an alternative for President Trump. | ||
| President Trump didn't want to do it. | ||
| He wouldn't have a chief of staff. | ||
| The alternatives were principally Kevin McCarthy, and Kevin McCarthy was really running hard for this. | ||
| Jeff Miller, the lobbyist, was really pushing him for this. | ||
| If you'd had Kevin McCarthy in there, You know, you almost got to ask... | ||
| I think our broadcasting license would have been... | ||
| Yeah, it's almost like, why did we do this? | ||
| Why did we just go through this? | ||
| Also, you know, it was Brooke Rollins, and Brooke's done a thing over at AFPI, but there's a lot of people who think that that is kind of a holding tank for a lot of rhino, neoliberal, neocon policies. | ||
| Susie's kind of not on any log, and I realize people are sitting there, she's a bushy, she was involved with this, she was involved with that. | ||
| She's been with President Trump. | ||
| She joined in the darkest days. | ||
| She was in the 2016 campaign. | ||
| Not in the White House, but she came back and joined him in the darkest days of early 2021. | ||
| She's been around long before he even got the campaign up and running. | ||
| And ran Rick Scott's 2010 gubernatorial campaign, which could help in the Senate race. | ||
| DeSantis just did a... | ||
| Her leadership. | ||
| She's very close to Rick Scott. | ||
| If we go that route to make sure McConnell's flunkies can't take over the Senate, there's a lot of moving pieces here. | ||
| Stephen Miller. | ||
| Stephen Miller, who I think ought to be named immediately the mass deportation czar. | ||
| Maybe he's deputy chief of staff. | ||
| Yeah, we're not talking border czar anymore. | ||
| It's mass deportation czar. | ||
| It's not border czar. | ||
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We're going to build a wall, but you've got to deport millions and millions of people. | |
| Real quickly, Natalie, thanks for doing this. | ||
| What's your social media? | ||
| Where do people get you? | ||
| Natalie G. Winters on all social media platforms. | ||
| Okay, fantastic. | ||
| I want to thank the team over at Revolver, the team over at Breitbart, Kane, Citizen Kane, and the Citizens Free Press, the Hoff Brothers over at Gateway Pundit, I know I'm missing a bunch of... | ||
| Oh, Raheem. | ||
| Raheem's taking this magnificent train up in my face taking this train back from Florida. | ||
| Taking it back? | ||
| Left on time? | ||
| It did look like the Oriental Express. | ||
| Raheem over at National Pulse. | ||
| So many of these alternative... | ||
| And I say the mainstream media is done. | ||
| And I think Rachel Maddow trying to look for volunteers that are coming to her resistance on the media side misses the point. | ||
| Not like, oh, you guys suck. | ||
| The American people are not watching you anymore. | ||
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The alternative media, the podcast, all that is really the cutting edge. | |
| I just want to thank everybody on the right and of course our entire team, The World of Impossible, for sharing the content. | ||
| Make sure you download the podcast and give us a review. | ||
| I read them all. | ||
| Natalie, we'll see you tomorrow. | ||
| I read them too. |
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