Nov. 1, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| I mean, every day you're out there. | ||
| What they're doing is blowing people off. | ||
| If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians get total control and total power. | ||
| Because this is just like in Arizona. | ||
| This is just like in Georgia. | ||
| It's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations. | ||
| This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged. | ||
| As we've told you, this is the fight. | ||
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All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth. | |
| War Room. | ||
| Battleground. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, Thursday, 31 October, year of our Lord, 2024. | ||
| There's so much going on as early voting is starting to end in these various states. | ||
| It's been extended in Pennsylvania and some other places, but the mass mobilization over the weekend for Tuesday is just kicking off. | ||
| And we'll go to Nevada in a moment to Seagal chat out. | ||
| We've got Natalie Winters in Palm Beach, in West Palm Beach, our studio there. | ||
| Jeff Clark joins me. | ||
| We're going to get into some legal questions. | ||
| Also, Jeff Clark puts out a ringing defense of the, I guess I'm not self-taught, populism. | ||
| He takes on the New York Times. | ||
| We'll get to all that in a minute. | ||
| I want to go to Jillian Barbary. | ||
| Jillian, this is the second anniversary for Done With Debt as a sponsor and now more than ever as the deteriorating financial condition for working class people. | ||
| This is the reverse side of why Donald Trump is winning these votes. | ||
| And this is why these low propensity voters, there's such a massive outreach. | ||
| These are the exact people that are going to turbocharge our movement. | ||
| What can Done With Debt The company and your process do for folks so they don't actually have to declare bankruptcy, ma'am. | ||
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Well, first of all, thank you. | |
| You and Dr. | ||
| Navarro had the, I think, greatest conversation, the cost of living. | ||
| How about add on to that death, IRS problems, disease, in my case, breast cancer, divorce, anything that comes up that is unexpected? | ||
| And it just, you know, throws your life into a tizzy. | ||
| Remember this. | ||
| Debt is massive business. | ||
| And you, my friends out there, you, the average American who's working really hard, you're the target. | ||
| So you're going to be bombarded with clickbait. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| That is credit card offers, these loans, quick fixes. | ||
| We're going to get you. | ||
| We got you. | ||
| No, it is a bad thing. | ||
| Do not do it. | ||
| What you should do is go to donewithdebt.com. | ||
| This is the second year, as Steve mentioned, and we have helped so many people get back on track. | ||
| Number one, they will give you your own dedicated team. | ||
| They will work on your financial profile. | ||
| They are going to stand in front of all the creditors, credit card companies, the banks, and what they'll do is renegotiate They can actually help with the, you know, the interest rates. | ||
| They know all the deals that are going on. | ||
| They can cut penalty fees. | ||
| They're so incredible. | ||
| And they put an end immediately to all of this. | ||
| Start on your new program and you could end up with money in your pocket by the end of the month. | ||
| Steve, you brought up something a while back that time is not on your side. | ||
| And to me, that was the biggest problem. | ||
| That's the biggest thing of all, because we as Americans, we just let it go. | ||
| Tick-tock, tick-tock, they don't care. | ||
| It's beneficial for them because the penalties add up for you. | ||
| You're a hardworking American when the time goes by and you don't do anything. | ||
| It's just the ball. | ||
| Here's the thing you can't do and the reason we love working with you guys. | ||
| There's a tendency just to put it in the drawer and it'll go away. | ||
| It ain't going away. | ||
| It's a living, breathing thing that's adding, adding, adding interest. | ||
| What the Done With Debt guys do, the team will go in there and the two things they try to do right off the bat is get a haircut on the face amount And to cap the interest. | ||
| So that's why people that get nervous about this, overextended, you can't put it in the drawer. | ||
| Just go talk to these folks. | ||
| You'll see it clearly. | ||
| The anxiety that comes from putting it in the drawer because you can't deal with it is just going to bury you because the clock's still ticking, the compounding's still going at the 25% APR. That's why you've got to reach out to these guys because the two things they can do is, number one work to actually cut the face amount of what you owe and number two to actually stop the clock while you work at a program it's a restructuring and these guys are the pros at it. | ||
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Go ahead. | |
| The harassing letters and they will tell you they'll ease your anxiety and they'll say this is what we're gonna do to get you back on track and you just suddenly feel taken care of that's the number one thing I did exactly what you said I stuffed them in drawers I ripped up letters I didn't answer the phone at night. | ||
| That was my number one anxiety. | ||
| I literally had to take Xanax because I was going crazy. | ||
| I had cancer. | ||
| I was doing chemo. | ||
| I was looking after two kids. | ||
| The phone would ring, and I swear to you, it was worse than chemo. | ||
| So donewithdebt.com. | ||
| These are the guys that are going to patch it up for you, put you back together, and get you back on the financial path that you need to be for you and your family. | ||
| Donewithdebt.com. | ||
| It's so simple. | ||
| You can get on there. | ||
| They are going to be gold for you because time is not on your side and debt is big business. | ||
| Big business. | ||
| You're the target. | ||
| Let them help you. | ||
| Donewithdebt.com. | ||
| Thank you, ma'am. | ||
| Julie, you're fantastic. | ||
| I love you guys as a sponsor for the last couple of years. | ||
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Thank you, sir. | |
| The whole world is going to go through this because we have $300 trillion out there of debt at every level and we're going to have the biggest margin call in world's histories coming. | ||
| Everybody's going to be restructuring. | ||
| Get ahead of the curve. | ||
| Donewithdebt.com. | ||
| Julian, thank you so much. | ||
| Seagal. | ||
| President's in Arizona. | ||
| He's going to Nevada right now. | ||
| I think he's there. | ||
| He's going with Tucker down to Arizona today. | ||
| This is Western Swing. | ||
| Get me up to speed. | ||
| The numbers I'm seeing out of you guys look amazing, but explain to our audience where we really stand and what you and McDonald have been able to do. | ||
| So what we've been able to do is we have been able to completely turn Nevada around. | ||
| We are slowly killing the Harry Reid machine, which is something that we haven't seen here in Nevada since 2004. | ||
| Right now, President Trump is in Nevada. | ||
| We are plus 40,000 Republican votes, which is insane. | ||
| Remember Trump lost the election in 2020 with under 35,000 votes, closer to 34,000. | ||
| So right now he is leading and that's only on the Republican margins. | ||
| That doesn't include Democrats that are, we know are going to be voting for him and that doesn't include the independents. | ||
| So it is unbelievable. | ||
| We've managed to cannibalize every C4 within a thousand mile radius of Las Vegas, whether that's American majority, whether that's turning point action. | ||
| We've got all hands on deck here to ensure that Nevada gets delivered to Trump. | ||
| So tell me about that. | ||
| I know you can't talk about the independents, but you guys, I take it, are enormously happy coming out of the early voting? | ||
| And then tell me about the mass mobilization, because we've got to represent next Tuesday. | ||
| Well, we still have two days of early voting. | ||
| Early voting goes through tomorrow night. | ||
| And then what we have is we have mail-in ballots. | ||
| Don't forget that in 2020, the Nevada legislature actually decriminalized ballot harvesting So we are doing everything to ballot harvest, whether they want to call it voter assistance or voter registry or whatever they want to call it. | ||
| The bottom line is we are harvesting ballots. | ||
| We are banking ballots. | ||
| We have turned out a ballot harvesting operation that has never been seen before. | ||
| And as a matter of fact, tonight I anticipate thousands of trick-or-treaters to come through my neighborhood. | ||
| We have encouraged Republican stakeholders to convert their homes to ballot harvesting operations instead of just handing out candy. | ||
| So we have all been working like crazy around the clock. | ||
| I anticipate we will be about harvesting throughout the weekend and until Tuesday. | ||
| So, and we then take those ballots and we drop them off at polling locations. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| How can people follow you on social media? | ||
| Because Nevada, we didn't win in 16. | ||
| We didn't win in 20. | ||
| This is one I know the president's been very focused on. | ||
| It looks like the first time it's actually really in play, regardless of what the culinary union is going to try to do. | ||
| So how do people follow this? | ||
| How do they keep tight track of you? | ||
| Okay, so they can follow me on Chat for Nevada. | ||
| I'm on Truthgetter, Twitter, and Facebook, everything. | ||
| And follow my page because I will be unleashing every ballot-chasing event from here on out until Tuesday. | ||
| We've got a couple of excellent events that American Christian Caucus is doing. | ||
| They have their ballot-chasing event, Door Knocking. | ||
| We are getting out to vote in Nevada. | ||
| And... | ||
| We will deliver Trump, Nevada, in 2024. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Thank you, ma'am. | ||
| You're one of the hardest workers I know, and that says something. | ||
| We know a lot of them here at the War Room, and you're just amazing. | ||
| It blows me away, these people that are in these states, Jeff, that just jump on it and they're game changers, right? | ||
| She's one. | ||
| And you just see the energy, all of it. | ||
| I want to go, do we have the clip of, before we play that, and Natalie's going to jump in here, Politico. | ||
| In Politico is kind of one of the – Axios and Politico are kind of the inside baseball, but it's the way the apparatus kind of thinks. | ||
| Politico has a story – and I hate these stories. | ||
| I hate these stories because they – we haven't won and we've got so much work to do to even win, but they're already saying who's going to be in Harris's cabinet, who's going to be in Trump's. | ||
| They put you in the top tier. | ||
| Politico for attorney general. | ||
| What is that – they're trying to set you up for a target. | ||
| They're trying to have people melt down. | ||
| Is that real? | ||
| When Politico says it? | ||
| It's all up to President Trump, and I don't read my press clippings really so closely, either positive or negative, Steve. | ||
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Are there positive ones? | |
| As you said on Monday, the focus has to be on getting President Trump across the finish line and getting both houses of Congress this time. | ||
| Well, we're going to talk about that. | ||
| We've got the clip. | ||
| I think we've got a Raskin clip. | ||
| Let's play Jamie Raskin, and we're going to bring in Natalie Winters and Jeff Clark. | ||
| But the court is not going to save us. | ||
| And so that means the only thing that really works is people in motion amending the Constitution. | ||
| But again, it's necessary, but it's not sufficient because what can be put into the Constitution can slip away from you very quickly. | ||
| And the greatest example going on right now before our very eyes is Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, which they're just disappearing with a magic wand as if it doesn't exist, even though it could not be clearer what it's stating. | ||
| And so You know, they want to kick it to Congress, so it's going to be up to us on January 6th, 2025, to tell the rampaging Trump mobs that he's disqualified. | ||
| And then we need bodyguards for everybody in Civil War conditions, all because the nine justices, not all of them, but these justices who have not many cases to look at every year, not that much work to do, a huge staff, great protection, simply do not want to do their job and interpret what the great 14th Amendment means. | ||
| And I'm glad that Sherilyn's creating her new center so we can bring that back to life even as we're continuing to amend the Constitution as Professor Hassan has invited us to do. | ||
| Natalie, tee it up. | ||
| I take this very seriously because I know there's some disparaging remarks today from a couple of our guests about Jamie Raskin. | ||
| Mark Elias and Jamie Raskin, I think, are two, I totally disagree, but they're serious people and they're fighters. | ||
| And they have big media platforms. | ||
| So I take, when these guys talk, I take it quite seriously. | ||
| Tee it up for me. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, there's no upside, right, to underestimating the force that these people operate with. | ||
| And they're not just, you know, isolated, siloed entities of people. | ||
| They work in convergence to the point that they're all busy hosting special secretive Zoom calls and events with active secretaries of states who are responsible for overseeing the votes. | ||
| Of millions of Americans. | ||
| But in case the audience didn't pick up on that pretty blatant and dare I say bombshell buried lead in that clip we just played, he says it's going to be up to us on January 6th, 2025 to tell the rampaging Trump mobs he's disqualified. | ||
| I mean, chew on that for a second. | ||
| That is next level severe. | ||
| I mean, not only imagine the double standard that you would hear had President Trump said that, but look, Steve, I think it also goes to something that we saw in the second iteration of the transition integrity project, which you didn't get the first time around, which is this idea of seeking pre-commitments to essentially hold the which is this idea of seeking pre-commitments to essentially hold the line against Trump post-electoral victory, which is a change of tone and tune than what we saw in | ||
| And there's been extensive reporting and profile pieces about how election officials at the local and state level are not necessarily just going to cooperate or go along with certifying election results. | ||
| are not necessarily just going to cooperate or go along with certifying election results. | ||
| And I think in some ways, though it's great that we've seen so much momentum in terms of the grassroots, particularly down in Georgia, right, pushing to extend the deadlines for ballot certification. | ||
| And I think in some ways, though, it's great that we've seen so much momentum in terms of the grassroots, particularly down in Georgia, right, pushing to extend the deadlines for ballot certification. | ||
| In some ways, I could also see how narrative wise that comes and ends up kind of, you know, biting us or not hurting us. | ||
| And in some ways, I could also see how narrative wise that comes and ends up kind of, you know, biting us or not hurting us. | ||
| It's a noble charge to make. | ||
| It's a noble charge to make. | ||
| But you could see how Jamie Raskin, right, will weaponize these concepts that election integrity activists have been fighting for for so long. | ||
| But you could see how Jamie Raskin, right, will weaponize these concepts that election integrity activists have been fighting for for so long. | ||
| And the last and most important point on this, which I think I would bring Jeff in on, is, right, you're seeing DHS memo after DHS memo saying that, you know, foreign disinformation is the number one threat. | ||
| But, of course, disinformation or rather domestic extremists here at home in the form of MAGA, you know, that's what we're focusing all our resources on, particularly people who want to question the results of elections. | ||
| And I think it's really interesting when you see the entire apparatus of the Biden regime going after people like that, because in the same news cycle, the stories that you think they would be amplifying, whether it's the fact that ballot boxes are burning in the Pacific Northwest or Democratic whether it's the fact that ballot boxes are burning in the Pacific Northwest or Democratic Senate operatives are being caught tampering with ballot boxes in Montana in the dark of night, they're giving absolutely zero | ||
| And the people who are playing around with ballot boxes, they can't say they're doing it because they're concerned about election integrity. | ||
| They set up a whole outpost at the DOJ under Pamela Carlin to go after people who dared to stand outside, right? | ||
| These ballot boxes, the same Pamela Carlin, whose Stanford center just got, I think, $30 million to lead the charge in concert with the Transition Integrity Project to work to reform the Supreme Court. | ||
| So Jeff, I'm just curious to bring you and your thoughts on the severity that these comments by Jamie Raskin pose. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Well, they're very severe. | ||
| And what I want to bring to the viewers, listeners' attention is the fact that I think Chief Justice Roberts was prescient. | ||
| I think he saw that this was coming. | ||
| And according to leaks to the New York Times, to LipTac, the reporter there, they were essentially trying to close this off back in March. | ||
| And it seems like several of the justices in the five to six justice majority got off of that train. | ||
| And so what they did was they said they couldn't take Trump off the ballot in Colorado. | ||
| This is the Trump v. | ||
| Anderson case. | ||
| They said that you'd have to have a new statute. | ||
| But essentially they left open the question of whether Jamie Raskin can pull this maneuver on this January 6th, 2025. | ||
| And so it's amazing that the chief foresaw this. | ||
| He could apparently shut it down. | ||
| There shouldn't be these leaks from the Supreme Court. | ||
| Of course, I want to make that clear. | ||
| But that would have been a much more opportune time to close this off. | ||
| If we get to the point where Trump wins and Jamie Raskin pulls this dangerous maneuver where he recognizes he's even going to have to have We're in a world where the Supreme Court's going to have to decide an emergency case. | ||
| And they could have decided this back in March. | ||
| And particularly Amy Coney Barrett, she wasn't even happy with the fact that they said a new statute would have to be passed in order to operationalize Section 3 under Section 5 of the 14th Amendment. | ||
| Walk us through – let's go back for a second. | ||
| Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, is that what they're talking about? | ||
| Walk us – what does that say? | ||
| How does it tie to their first effort to take Trump off the ballot? | ||
| And what Raskin says, well, you took him off the ballot, but that doesn't mean he's actually certifiable to be president of the United States. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So they tried to take him off the ballot, Steve, in Colorado and in Maine. | ||
| So the Supreme Court decided this in the Colorado case, that vehicle. | ||
| What did they argue? | ||
| What does Section 3 of the 14th Amendment say that's so explosive? | ||
| It says that if you have engaged in insurrection and you're on a certain list of officials, that then you are barred from holding office under the United States. | ||
| The problem is that the president one big problem, and I wrote about this and appeared on your show about it, is the president is not on the list. | ||
| So it talks about senators. | ||
| It talks about representatives. | ||
| And the president is absent from that. | ||
| There are a lot of different arguments that President Trump employed. | ||
| The argument that the Supreme Court ultimately adopted to invalidate what Colorado had said to try to keep them off the ballot was if a state can decide for its own sake that it thinks an insurrection happened and it stops someone from running for president, you're going to have a patchwork where President Trump is on some you're going to have a patchwork where President Trump is on some ballots and not And that would be a chaotic system. | ||
| We can't have that. | ||
| And all of the justices agreed with that point. | ||
| That was not 9-0. | ||
| which is a tremendous victory. | ||
| Then five justices said that in order to actually try to enforce Section 3 of the 14th Amendment that has this insurrectionist bar in it, under Section 5 of the 14th Amendment, Congress would have to pass a new statute. | ||
| And that's what peeled off Amy Coney Barrett. | ||
| She's like, "We don't need to reach that question. | ||
| We can just do the 9-0 question." But then there's a further question, which is, "What happens on January 6th of 2025?" And if Hakeem Jeffries controls the House, what Jamie Raskin is signaling is that they're going to say, well, we are Congress, we are the House, and we are going to not vote to allow him to be certified as president because he's an insurrectionist. | ||
| We're interpreting Section 3 of the 14th Amendment for ourselves. | ||
| That's clearly going to lead to a major emergency Supreme Court case. | ||
| And what I was trying to point out is that the bud on this could have been nipped back in March. | ||
| But in not doing it, Roberts, these guys are not dumb. | ||
| Roberts knew this was going to come up. | ||
| He's signaling that, isn't he signaling that he's open to this, open to this argument? | ||
| I think he's signaling that he's open to the argument. | ||
| Isn't that pretty scary in and of itself? | ||
| Well, no, no, wait, wait, wait. | ||
| When I say open to the argument, I mean open to the argument that they would invalidate the House trying to do this. | ||
| I think that that's what he wanted to try to do. | ||
| So I think some of the other justices... | ||
| Then why didn't he do it at the time? | ||
| Well, the leak to the New York Times suggests that he tried, but he couldn't get the five votes, the other four votes that he needed. | ||
| Well, then that's the problem because that's Amy Coney Barrett is the linchpin of this, is she not? | ||
| Well, she's one of them, but you'd have to have one other person at least who was kind of leery and wanted to peel off, and we don't know who that is. | ||
| I want to go back to the 14th Amendment for a second. | ||
| The movie Lincoln, I think it was about the 13th and 14th Amendment. | ||
| The Reconstruction Amendments, the 13th, 14th, and 15th. | ||
| 13th, 14th, and 15th. | ||
| This is after, and people have to understand, the Civil War was kind of broader. | ||
| It didn't end in Appomattox. | ||
| The fighting of the armies ended in Appomattox. | ||
| But as we study war, World War I or II, you realize there are many things in putting together, quote-unquote, the peace that either extend the war or the issues they thought were solved by armed conflict turn out to come back. | ||
| Lincoln principally wanted to do this. | ||
| Because, and people don't understand this, that's why I think the movie Lincoln was so powerful. | ||
| The Emancipation Proclamation was just an executive order. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So when Trump is doing his executive orders on the border and Biden comes in and the first day takes out all the executive orders because they only go for the term of the president and he's opened the border and we have 15 million. | ||
| This is what Lincoln had to deal with in his efforts to have freed the slaves, right? | ||
| The Emancipation Proclamation was if they had lost He realized that it would run out. | ||
| He needed an amendment to the Constitution against slavery. | ||
| That was the 13th Amendment. | ||
| The 14th Amendment was then about the Reconstruction itself, correct? | ||
| And the main things it guarantees are due process and equal protection for people, right? | ||
| So this is the source of not being able to discriminate against people because they're freed slaves, they're blacks, and then ultimately the Supreme Court would extend that to no discrimination against people for their gender. | ||
| And also discrimination against all other kinds of racial groups like the Chinese with the railroads in the 19th century. | ||
| But this is also the controversy of – you talk about the insurrection. | ||
| They deal with insurrection here. | ||
| You know, Jefferson Davis was, I think, indicted by a grand jury, correct me if I'm wrong, for treason, held at Fortress Monroe. | ||
| But there were never any trials for treason. | ||
| And isn't the case that they kept getting delayed and delayed and delayed of the senior Confederate officials? | ||
| Wasn't it the argument? | ||
| That even these amendments came in after the fact of the succession. | ||
| There was big legal questions at the time, even what the definition of insurrection was, what the definition of treason in this regard is. | ||
| It's the reason that Confederate officials were never tried for treason and never hung. | ||
| So, you know, there were pardons. | ||
| There were big Supreme Court cases fighting about the pardons. | ||
| But this is what the purpose of the Section 5 of the 14th Amendment is. | ||
| Give it to me. | ||
| That section says that Congress can enforce the provisions of the 14th Amendment by passing new statutes. | ||
| So it's that provision that the Supreme Court hangs its hat on to say if you're going to try to disqualify someone like President Trump from running for the presidency, you're going to need a statute to do that and you're going to need essentially a due process finding that he qualifies as an insurrectionist and you don't have any of that. | ||
| Well, Let's go to the videotape here. | ||
| Isn't the whole purpose of the Jack Smith situation? | ||
| And Jack Smith has not charged him with insurrection, correct? | ||
| That's correct. | ||
| But Jack Smith didn't charge him for insurrection. | ||
| One, he's not an insurrection, but I'm saying in their mind. | ||
| Jack Smith wanted to drive that to a point before the election. | ||
| That's where only Trump was indicted, right? | ||
| That's why maybe he wasn't charged with some of these other things. | ||
| Won't they point to Jack Smith? | ||
| And why wouldn't Jack Smith come out on November 6th, the day after the election, if Trump wins? | ||
| And give a superseding indictment that had Trump forething. | ||
| My point is the part about they have to pass other legislation is not operational because Jack Smith's driving the narrative. | ||
| And President Trump won't be seated, won't be the president until noon on the 20th. | ||
| If then, because Raskin said that's not going to happen, but you indict him for – you broaden out in a superseding indictment. | ||
| And Jamie Raskin just points, well, hey, a grand jury – Indicted Trump on three counts, right? | ||
| And Jack Smith's gone back with a superseding indictment. | ||
| He's got more charges and they indict him because there's a D.C. grand jury. | ||
| And he's got to go to trial. | ||
| So I think Lord knows what Jack Smith will do. | ||
| I think that he will be off the chain if Kamala Harris looks like she has some shot of this. | ||
| No, I'm saying Trump wins. | ||
| What I'm saying though is if there's some chance that Kamala Harris could squeak in because of the Raskin maneuver, then he might be let off the chain. | ||
| He's already done one superseding indictment. | ||
| He might do another one. | ||
| And, yeah, I think that would give like some extra oomph to Jamie Raskin arguing on January 6th that he could that the House can refuse to certify Trump. | ||
| Look, this whole theory of the insurrection goes back to the second impeachment. | ||
| They found essentially that Trump engaged in insurrection there. | ||
| So the House has already done this, right? | ||
| This would just be them doing the same thing again if Hakeem Jeffries is in charge. | ||
| And so I think in terms of what Jack Smith is up to, right, it's the problem he's going to have, Steve, is the Supreme Court's immunity decision. | ||
| I got it. | ||
| I think... | ||
| This ought to be taken a lot more seriously. | ||
| I see people dismissing this out of hand. | ||
| Mark Elias and Jamie Raskin are cunning, right? | ||
| And they're working 24-7. | ||
| They can't beat us at the ballot box. | ||
| They got that. | ||
| They understand that. | ||
| They still don't want Trump. | ||
| Their number one thing is Trump not to come back to power. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
| Jeff Clark's in the house. | ||
| Natalie is down in Palm Beach. | ||
| We're gonna take a short break. | ||
| We will be back in the warm in a moment. | ||
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All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth. | |
| War Room Battleground with Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| You are back in the War Room where I think we're going to be at the tip of the spear when it comes to all things color revolution. | ||
| I know some people want to downplay it. | ||
| Like I said, there's no upside to doing that in the same way that I think it was Victoria Newland, the recent star on Rachel Maddow's program just this Monday, said F the EU in that leaked phone call. | ||
| They want to do so much damn worse to the MAGA movement should they be reelected. | ||
| They say as much. | ||
| And I think that what we're talking about right now, particularly what's going on in Colorado, this lawfare approach, it's laid out. | ||
| And I want to just flag something. | ||
| Like I said earlier on War Room today, there was a very important story in the New York Times that was authored by two of the leading comparative politics professor types up at, of course, Harvard. | ||
| And they went through basically the path that you can take to countering the authoritarian rise of dictators and the style of President Trump. | ||
| And the first thing that they said they would do would be to try to keep them off the ballot. | ||
| Obviously, that failed. | ||
| And make no mistake that what happened out in Colorado was ran through the Brennan Center, which is the same group that now hosts one of the leaders of the Transition Integrity Project, in addition to being one of the clients of Judge Juan Murchon's daughter. | ||
| But then after they get basically people from, say, whether it's establishment wings of the Republican Party to come and join the opposition candidate, in this case, it's Kamala Harris. | ||
| What they're left with and what they say their basically plan is to be to wage war against President Trump should he win. | ||
| They're reliant upon civil society, religious institutions and labor unions. | ||
| And I just want to link this back to a story that I'm sure this audience is very well versed in. | ||
| That was the whole Time magazine profile piece that said what we said for years, of course, we were dismissed as conspiracy theorists, but it proved, right, that the labor unions, big business all conspired. | ||
| To prevent a Trump victory. | ||
| And you think they're just going to let Trump win again? | ||
| Hell no. | ||
| But you already are starting to see this, shall we call it an insurrection, materialize, right? | ||
| In the sense that, remember just a month ago, the labor unions, they failed to endorse any political candidate despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of their rank-and-file members, upwards of 60%, Supported President Trump, right? | ||
| You're already starting to see the sort of fractures within the window pane that is the establishment signal and indicate to you that they're going to support Kamala Harris despite what their rank-and-file members say. | ||
| So when you see all of these issues converge together and now you have Jamie Raskin feeling comfortable to say out loud that we're heading towards civil war Because they're going to ignore what happened on November 5th. | ||
| They're going to treat January 6th like their attempt to actually hold a coup, to actually stage an insurrection. | ||
| I think we need to take these threats extremely seriously. | ||
| And I'll toss it back to Steve and Jeff to either pick up where I left off or add some more. | ||
| No, I think you're... | ||
| So, as you look at the playing field, you're one of the smartest, toughest lawyers. | ||
| I know it's the reason they hate you. | ||
| And you look out there at the legal battlefield, you see the victories we've had and what's happening, you know, this thing in Arizona, they got 98,000 people, they don't know the citizenship's got to be dealt with by Monday. | ||
| As you look out there, how high do you put the Raskin, Mark Elias, their firewall to not certify Trump's election? | ||
| I put it very high, but it's contingent, right? | ||
| Jamie Raskin can't do this if they don't have control of the House. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| This is why the House, this is why down ticket on the House is, I think we've got the Senate, the House is a dogfight. | ||
| But even if it's one seat, we have to control the House. | ||
| If we don't control the House, tell me potentially what you believe he can do. | ||
| I think that what he does is he works with Hakeem Jeffries. | ||
| And when the joint session of Congress is called into session, gaveled into session under the new version of the Electoral Count Act on January 6th of 2025, they would have a problem with trying to use the Kamala Harris maneuver, the same maneuver that they said couldn't possibly be used by Mike Pence because of those changes to the Electoral Count Act. | ||
| Although I do think there are serious questions about whether... | ||
| Well, that's what I think. | ||
| The original Electoral Count Act is unconstitutional under the 12th Amendment, this new one even more so. | ||
| But they won't have to go there if they have control of the House because then Hakeem Jeffries can basically say, you know, I'll entertain a resolution not to certify based on Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. | ||
| Maybe they have a little bit of debate about that on both sides and then they vote along party lines and Does it have to go to the Senate or is that resolution binding just in the House on the House's business? | ||
| Well, I mean, if you can't—you have to get certified, like, under this joint process, right? | ||
| So if they did that, like, you're going to have the houses potentially disagreeing, right? | ||
| And under—the other possibility, right, is there could be a contingent election where if there's a tie in the Electoral College, then the houses vote, you know, by delegation, one vote each in the respective houses. | ||
| But the Senate's house— Leads to the vice president, right? | ||
| It doesn't lead to the presidency. | ||
| So, you know, this is a very dangerous maneuver they could pull if they control the House. | ||
| And that's why people have to fight like the Dickens, not just for Trump, but for their House members in their states. | ||
| New York and California, these seats. | ||
| Are vitally important. | ||
| We're going to have DeGrasse. | ||
| I'm going to try to get DeGrasse tomorrow. | ||
| He's sending me information. | ||
| We've got to get on top of these seats in New York. | ||
| That's one of the reasons Trump did the Madison Square Garden. | ||
| Before we get to that, the certification process, what concerns you and what should we... | ||
| Let's triage this. | ||
| What concerns you on the election integrity issues that they're going to try to do to try to either delegitimize Trump, nullify his election, or quite frankly, steal it? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, one of the big concerns I have is UOCAVA and the fact that that's a too open process. | ||
| You can just go in and say, I live somewhere. | ||
| Explain that to the audience. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So the UOCAVA statute, this is a statute that was largely thought to be for military forces that were overseas. | ||
| And if I take people back to the 2000 election, you know, with, uh, uh, Bush v. | ||
| Gore, you know, that there were lots of allegations that they were trying to undercount the military vote in Florida. | ||
| So they could skew things in favor of Gore. | ||
| Now things have gone in the other direction. | ||
| They want to use, uh, you Okaava and they want to have people vote who may not, you know, be, uh, uh, able to, to be tied to a particular state. | ||
| They're just sort of vouching that they have some kind of tie. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And they always have new schemes, right? | ||
| And they've definitely already made use of what we call Biden bucks, right? | ||
| So in the 2020 election, there was Zucker bucks, where Zuckerberg spends with his wife $400 million with this Center for Tech and Civic Life. | ||
| And they go in and they essentially privatize, get out the vote operations, working largely with the blue cities. | ||
| They're smart, so they spread the money around to some red counties, but they focus the money on the big blue urban areas. | ||
| And they drove, you know, turnout and votes, you know, in major numbers. | ||
| And then third, you know, obviously, we're still we still have all these mail in ballot problems. | ||
| And we did not have as you know, was a big feature of my trial, actually see my bar trial, there was no signature verification done at all, which is a handful of Of exceptions, excuse me, in Fulton County. | ||
| So, you know, people come in with mail-in ballots and, you know, once the connection is broken between the envelope and the ballot, you can't go back and undo that. | ||
| You have to do the signature verification right at the point when that ballot arrives. | ||
| There was also a lot of testimony of the fact that When the mail-in ballots came back and there was an audit of that process, there were entire stacks of ballots that had no folds, no creases, which meant they weren't mailed. | ||
| Somehow they were injected into the process. | ||
| I think they're going to use that old technique of fraud because we still haven't gotten full control over enforcing signature verification. | ||
| And you have people like Mark Elias who's going to go screaming into court and saying, this is a vote suppression operation if you complain about that. | ||
| What is, in the few minutes we've got left, Mark Elias, He's now been retained by their campaign. | ||
| They made a big deal about it. | ||
| What worries you most about what he's going to focus on? | ||
| The reality, I think, Steve, is a black box. | ||
| I think he has some kind of plan that I don't know what it is yet. | ||
| Repeat that. | ||
| You talk about the October surprise? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the October surprise. | ||
| They understand now they can't beat us on things called ballots and votes that are certifiable from American citizens that are legal. | ||
| That's why they got Mark Elias. | ||
| Talk to me about your fear of the black box. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, look, he has a massive team, right? | ||
| He was at a big law firm and they basically kicked him out because he has issues. | ||
| But he is built using billionaire donor money, especially I think from Silicon Valley, a massive operation again. | ||
| So he's got the equivalent of his own law firm plus NGOs. | ||
| He can litigate in all of the battleground states simultaneously with massive teams. | ||
| And one of the things they've done, Steve, obviously with this weaponization of the bar process, they've gone after the conservative attorneys. | ||
| None of the big law firms will work for Trump. | ||
| They're all woke-ified or blackrock-ified. | ||
| Or their clients will fire you if you work for Trump or his guys. | ||
| Yes, and that's what I mean by BlackRockified. | ||
| And so you have people who are good lawyers, right? | ||
| But one of the things big law brings and that Bush used in Bush v. | ||
| Gore is he had big law firms on his side. | ||
| You have armies of associates, right? | ||
| Actually, I miss being at my big law firm where I could call on a team of some smart Supreme Court clerks and some smart trial lawyers, right? | ||
| We could all work as a team. | ||
| you know, the kind of structure that we have on our side, we're just woefully sort of outmanned and outgunned by Mark Elias and the money he has behind him, Steve. | ||
| How do people keep up with you, social media, all of it? | ||
| Because now, you know, you and McGinley are now going to come to the forefront. | ||
| We got the massive get out the vote operation, the mass mobilization. | ||
| But very quickly, in the next four or five days, we're going to shift the focus to you guys, the legal warriors that have to secure this and have to we have. | ||
| We're going to have to close legally to get to high noon on the 20th of January. | ||
| And folks, to the opposition, they just look at 5 November. | ||
| Tuesday is just another, that's kind of a day, but it's still the second quarter. | ||
| We're not even at the halftime for those folks. | ||
| How do people follow you? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So, Steve, I'm at Jeff Clark U.S. on Getter and X and at Real Jeff Clark on Truth Social. | ||
| And I'm going to be coming out, should be tomorrow, Steve, with a big paper on the Center for Renewing America site, that's americarenewing.com, about the Pentagon's directive that allows military intelligence to use lethal force on the American people. | ||
| So this is real. | ||
| I've been hearing about this. | ||
| It sounded like kind of crazy. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| It's not crazy. | ||
| Look for my paper about this. | ||
| It's 17 pages long. | ||
| What time are you going to publish it? | ||
| Tomorrow morning? | ||
| I don't know exactly what the time is, but it might be ready for the evening show. | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| Natalie, let's get Jeff on because that's a burning topic. | ||
| If real. | ||
| It's real. | ||
| And you're proving it's real. | ||
| Now, the thing is, okay, just to give you a quick preview, you know, what they're trying to say on the other side is, oh, you know, it doesn't authorize troops to use lethal force, but it authorizes military intelligence. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that's, yeah. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| Natalie, thoughts, particularly on this paper coming out tomorrow. | ||
| You've been all over the deep state stepping in here. | ||
| Thoughts, observations. | ||
| Yes, two points. | ||
| One, it's quite funny that we bring up that story because in the Washington Post's long-form fact check trying to, I guess, shall we say pre-bunk Jeff Clark's forthcoming paper, guess who they cited to say that the story is completely bogus? | ||
| None other than Rosa Brooks, the founder of the Transition Integrity Project. | ||
| And this also goes back to a story that we broke, Steve, here on the War Room, I believe two months ago. | ||
| I think Jeff was actually in studio with me when I broke it, which had to do with changes that they had to Defense Department directives in 2016, 2020, and then just late September 2024, where it basically alluded to them in some specific cases authorizing the use of where it basically alluded to them in some specific cases authorizing the use of of assassinations against American citizens, of course, given what happened to President Trump. | ||
| I would say the timing of that is particularly curious. | ||
| But look, Steve, it goes back to what I think we've been really hammering on this show, especially in light of everything that John Kelly and Mark Milley have come out trying to smear President Trump as a fascist, right? | ||
| They're giving you the signs right now that the military is an institution that they're extremely worried about handing over to President Trump, right? | ||
| And And should he win, I think that they will use stories like this, the John Kelly narratives to sort of lay the pretext that President Trump shouldn't be allowed, shouldn't be empowered to choose who his generals are. | ||
| And like I always say, they're not actually pissed off that President Trump wants generals like Hitler. | ||
| They're pissed off that he wants his own generals to begin with, right, that deviate from the permanent political class, that deviate from politics as usual in Washington, D.C. That was why you saw the first impeachment of him to begin with. | ||
| Another big day. | ||
| Social media, where do people get you, Natalie, to follow you overnight before we get back on the show tomorrow? | ||
| Natalie G. Winters on all social media platforms. | ||
| Always an honor to co-host with you, Steve. | ||
| I'll see you soon. | ||
| Great work. | ||
| Social media, where do people get you? | ||
| Jeff Clark, US, on Getter and X, and Real Jeff Clark on True Social. | ||
| Okay, fantastic. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Stick around. | ||
| I want to talk to you right after the show. | ||
| We have Grace Chong. | ||
| Grace, we got about two minutes. | ||
| I got to get to Mike Lindell. | ||
| You got some special announcements. | ||
| What do you got for us? | ||
| I see. | ||
| So I just wanted to give a huge shout out to the War Room Posse. | ||
| They took your instructions to heart. | ||
| Next man up. | ||
| Everyone's next man up. | ||
| They truly rallied together. | ||
| And I want to reiterate, everyone, in many ways, you going to federal prison was a blessing in disguise. | ||
| And I know it wasn't club fed for you, but I can tell you firsthand it ignited a fire under the posse because they saw firsthand the injustice that you faced and it drove them to action. | ||
| So it's not too late to get involved. | ||
| If you have any remaining postcards or feel motivated to send more, go for it. | ||
| Even if your postcard arrives close to Election Day around 3rd, 4th or 5th, it's still worthwhile. | ||
| Personally, I'm focusing on Washington 3 for Joe Kent. | ||
| The House is so important. | ||
| Because Washington is a mail-in ballot state, so it's critical to check the ballot status. | ||
| So call, text, and send postcards for Joe Kemp because a simple reminder can go a long way. | ||
| And recently, on October 28th, there was a fire in Clark County that damaged a ballot box. | ||
| So according to the Clark County Auditor, Greg Kinsley, hundreds of ballots may have been affected. | ||
| So it's super critical that you check the ballot status Is accepted. | ||
| And go to voter.votewa.gov or reach out to Joe Kent online. | ||
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And a huge shout out to Joe, Joe, who is a huge part of this. | |
| And if you have any questions. | ||
| We'll have you back on tomorrow. | ||
| The ability of folks to step up. | ||
| It was incredible. | ||
| We're more powerful when I was in federal prison than before, and that says something. | ||
| I mean, the team, the production team, the co-host, the guests, the contributors, and the audience, JoJo, and leading this effort is just amazing. | ||
| You're a force, and now we're down to this, the end of the early voting and the mass mobilization of the weekend. | ||
| We have to represent. | ||
| Tuesday is going to be Very trying, right? | ||
| There's going to be a lot of, I think, things that happen, you know, slowdowns. | ||
| There's going to be lines. | ||
| We have to power through this because that will give us the victory that we then have to pass on to the Boris Epstein's, the Jeff Clark's, the Bill McGinley's, and the Mike Davis's to close on. | ||
| And folks, it's going to be a fight, trust me, all the way to the end. | ||
| Mike Lindell, tell me about the mass mobilization. | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| And then talk to me about a deal. | ||
| Yeah, you know, Steve, when you were in, I don't know if you heard about it, but me and Mayor Rudy Giuliani, we went to the DNC. I actually shaved my mustache and went up and got inside there. | ||
| I was on the war room when they attacked me. | ||
| But the whole purpose of that was to get clips, everybody, of Democrats that were switching. | ||
| They voted for Biden and now they're voting for Donald Trump. | ||
| We now have these all put together. | ||
| And over the next four days or five days before the election here, we're going to be sharing them on every social media platform. | ||
| So you can go to at Real Mike Lindell on Getter, Gab, True Social, X, Vocal, Prank Social, any of these. | ||
| And share, share, share. | ||
| These clips are so powerful. | ||
| We want an independence, Democrats, we want it to go far and wide because we're this close to the election. | ||
| So all the work done back then is coming out now. | ||
| And I encourage anyone going to church this Sunday, this is what you need to talk about, and you need to vote, vote, vote. | ||
| So, Steve, there was a lot of stuff done, and you were a big inspiration, whether you were there or not. | ||
| And people, your voice, they tried to stop your voice, but it wasn't stopping. | ||
| Like, it was expanded, I even think, because people were so upset. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| What Grace said is the platform's bigger and more robust and more powerful, more resilient than when I went in. | ||
| I knew, look, it's next man up. | ||
| People responded to that. | ||
| Talk to me about a deal. | ||
| We've got about a minute left. | ||
| Yeah, and then we want to thank the war room policy for these last few months. | ||
| We want to thank the War Room Posse. | ||
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| So, Steve, they've been awesome. | ||
| God bless you. | ||
| God bless you. | ||
| Where are you going to be this weekend, Lindell? | ||
| I want to get to one of the last rallies. | ||
| I'm going to be speaking in a couple churches, but I am going to get to one of the last rallies, and I'll announce that tomorrow. | ||
| I'll let you know tomorrow morning. | ||
| Maybe we'll announce it on the show. | ||
| Thank you very much, brother. | ||
| Make sure you go to birchgold.com. | ||
| We need everybody to understand why the stock market's at an all-time high. | ||
| Gold's near an all-time high. | ||
| That's quite unusual. | ||
| There's a signal there. | ||
| You should understand that. | ||
| Talk to Philip Patrick's team. | ||
| Birchgold.com slash Bannon. | ||
| Jeff Clark, thank you. | ||
| We're going to be in all the different states tomorrow talking to folks. | ||
| See you back here at 10 a.m. | ||
| Eastern Standard. | ||
| What's Eastern Daylight Time? | ||
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