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Oct. 31, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4018: Reports From The Campaign Trail
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caroline wren
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peter navarro
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steve bannon
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natalie winters
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peter navarro
The first thing I'm gonna say is, you gotta vote.
You gonna vote?
And you gotta promise me right now, every one of you here, every one of you pirates right here, you gotta promise me you'll take ten other people to the polls and you'll get them there before election day.
Will you do that for me?
Will you do that for Donald Trump?
steve bannon
Who you gonna vote for?
peter navarro
Hey, you got to say it louder because I'm going to walk back there.
He's going to look at me and say, Peter, you're fired.
One more time because he's back there getting ready for you.
unidentified
Who are you going to vote for?
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
Here's one time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
peter navarro
I know you don't like hearing that.
steve bannon
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
Mega Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
steve bannon
It is Thursday, 31 October in the year of our Lord, 2021.
We're here live in the war room.
I'm honored to be joined by another convict, Peter Navarro.
Dr.
Peter Navarro joins us.
Okay, so for the show, the first part of the show...
peter navarro
We have the garbage of inmates.
steve bannon
The garbage of inmates.
The first part of the show is going to be...
Talking about the mass mobilization, where we're seeing numbers and people in the field.
We got the great Chris Buskirk.
We got Caroline Renz has gotten out to Arizona.
Seagal Chata putting up huge numbers in Nevada.
I do want to talk to you, though.
You've been tomorrow.
I know Cash Patel just called me.
Cash and Monica Crowley.
And I think they're on your bus, but they're on the bus tour in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
Dr.
Navarro, and we're going to be doing live hits with Monica Crowley, with Cash Patel, with Dr.
Peter Navarro as they go on the mobilization tour for the mass mobilization for Tuesday, that if we execute...
We got victory here, but you got to execute.
I want to talk about, you've already been to North Carolina.
peter navarro
See, North Carolina is in Georgia.
Bus tour, as you saw in the cold open there.
I spoke at a number of rallies.
Here's a couple things.
steve bannon
Now, hold on.
Talk about this clip, because we played this one and people loved it.
You're pitching, essentially, a multi-level marketing pitch.
Right.
peter navarro
I'm pitching the Steve Bannon action, action, action, force multiplier.
steve bannon
Okay.
peter navarro
And the multi-level marketing.
steve bannon
I like that better.
peter navarro
I used your name in vain on the trail.
steve bannon
Okay.
peter navarro
You know, when I shouted it out, it did get some positive response, brother.
I mean, you know, you are loved out there, brother.
steve bannon
That's a lot to love.
peter navarro
Yeah, I noticed that.
What the hell happened, man?
I lost the Deadpool.
I figured 40 pounds and you came out with 20 pounds.
steve bannon
I was down about 30 and then the first two months and then started putting him back on because I'd get ready to come in here and have some energy.
I'm not a little old man.
unidentified
Come on, dude.
I'm not one of those club feds in Danbury, Connecticut, man.
steve bannon
Hang on, hang on.
Somebody was in a prison.
peter navarro
Danbury, Connecticut.
steve bannon
He's in a country club.
peter navarro
He wears Brook Brothers in there and they let him keep it.
steve bannon
Here's a question.
Here's a question.
Who's in a penitentiary?
Who's in a prison and who's in a club?
We'll deal with that later.
Tell me about that.
All right, let's talk serious.
peter navarro
We're only a couple of days out.
We can do the prison thing after Donald Trump brings it home.
steve bannon
Show me your tattoos.
peter navarro
So here's the thing.
The top level here is it's a three-parter closing argument that I heard repeatedly.
America's in trouble.
Kamala Harris is responsible for most of that trouble, and Donald Trump will get us out of that trouble.
That's it.
steve bannon
Hang on, stop.
We're beyond, this is my whole point, they're no undecideds.
They're undecided whether they're going to show up and vote.
Your task and purpose is to get these low-propensity folks out there.
peter navarro
And who was that?
I'm out there at these rallies.
steve bannon
We're not doing any economic issues.
peter navarro
At the end of every discussion, every speech I gave at a rally, I did the action, action, action, force multiplier pitch, and it was very simple.
I wanted to get everyone in that audience to promise Donald Trump...
That they would vote before Election Day.
steve bannon
Okay, perfect.
Smart.
peter navarro
And that every single person would take 10 friends, colleagues, co-workers, family to the polls.
That was the ending pitch.
And I can tell you this.
Look, I'm feeling optimistic.
It feels good out there, but it's going to be a get-out-the-vote election.
And that's what we have to focus on.
steve bannon
It's a base election.
peter navarro
So every other word out of one's mouth, when I'm talking to people, that's what I say.
Get out, vote, bring people with you.
steve bannon
The feedback I heard was that you were amazing on the tour.
And that's why you're on the bus tour, this all-important bus tour in Commonwealth, Pennsylvania.
Let's go to bus.
peter navarro
And I want to talk a little bit.
Let's talk a little bit about that.
When we get a chance, I'll tell you what's going on in Pennsylvania.
It's important.
steve bannon
Buzz Kirk, you're one of the smartest guys in our movement.
You're one of the leading intellectuals in our movement.
You've got a group called Turnout for America.
I want to frame this in the following.
I call them the Five Horsemen of...
What's going to be the administrative state's apocalypse, the deep state's apocalypse.
And that is Elon Musk, Miriam Adelson, the great Charlie Kirk, Ralph Reed on the Christians, and Chris Buzzkirk on Turnout for America.
And the reason is that the campaign, having limited resources...
And these new rules can actually have outside groups out there.
These five groups are the major, besides local RNC chapters, doing the bus tours.
This is the big muscles.
So Buzz Kirk, walk me through the self-organizing aspect of this and the different groups.
What do you guys focus on?
Because everybody tells me Buzz Kirk's group's doing an amazing job.
And welcome to the show, brother.
unidentified
Well, thanks.
Welcome home.
Glad to see you again.
You know, look, you said it yourself just a second ago.
This is a base election.
It is a turnout election.
Sometime we'll have to have the broader discussion.
I think every election is a turnout election.
But that comes to what Turnout for America does, is we have a very, very simple defined mission, simple to understand, which is find the low and mid-propensity voters, we know who they are, and get them to vote.
We don't have to convince them who to vote for.
They're already with us.
They know that Donald Trump is the guy.
But the question is, are they just supporters or are they voters?
In other words, are they just giving us moral support, like deep in their heart, or are they actually going to get a ballot in?
And we've got people and have had people in all seven of the swing states since August.
We've got thousands of canvassers out there.
They've got the data.
They know who the people are who are with us, but they're kind of the iffy voter.
Maybe they will, maybe they won't.
And it's been our job to go out, find them, talk to them, and convince them that now is the time.
Their vote actually is.
Matters, and if you look at the early ballot return results, it's having an effect.
It's working.
steve bannon
Okay, let me...
I've said this from the beginning.
Base election, turnout election.
It'll be low propensity vote.
That's what worried me about Taylor Swift on their side.
peter navarro
Here's the thing.
I want to ask Chris this.
We are outperforming 2016 and 2020 by large margins on early voting.
That is happening.
steve bannon
We didn't do anything in those years.
peter navarro
Exactly.
steve bannon
The key question is, are we cannibalizing?
peter navarro
You're taking the words right out of my mouth.
The question I wanted to ask Chris...
Is whether you have any evidence to suggest that we're not cannibalizing votes that would otherwise have come in.
And you'd be one of the best to observe that because you are identifying no and low propensity votes.
And can you tell whether they've gotten to the polls?
Thoughts on this, Chris?
unidentified
Yeah, no, we can actually see that.
But excuse me, that's a smart question to ask, which is, Are we just taking those high-propensity voters who used to be Election Day voters and were just getting to vote a week or two or three earlier than they otherwise would have voted?
And the answer is no.
In fact, we are actually turning out low-propensity voters.
And we know this because, remember, when we get the data back from the individual states that says this many ballots were returned yesterday or the day before or whatever, it's not aggregated data.
It is total.
You see every person who voted.
So you know who they are.
You go back and match it against the database where you've already identified whether they're like low, mid, or high propensity voters.
You can see who's voted.
And the answer is that, by and large, this is low propensity people who are turning out early.
It is a direct Uh, effect of all the work that's being done by our group and by the other ones you mentioned earlier to get folks out.
peter navarro
And Chris, I had the same exact conversation in Georgia.
Charlie Kirk held a big event there.
And he's doing exactly what you're doing.
and his organization has morphed into something just that's a powerhouse there.
I don't know what the others are doing.
Elon's probably doing something much more high tech, but between Chris and Charlie Kirk, I know damn well that the states that they're caretaking, they're going to boost the vote and it's not going to be cannibalized.
steve bannon
Well, Well, Chris, so the question is, walk us through, we see these numbers that are coming in, and they're kind of historic numbers for early voting.
And as you know, there's a lot of controversy about that.
Early voting is easier for people in the game, because on game day, particularly what's happening in Arizona and other places, it could be a couple hours.
peter navarro
Stuff happens, brother.
steve bannon
Stuff happens, and low-propendency voters are going to show up and go, hey, look, dude, I can't take two hours, or I can't take an hour, I've got to get to work.
Is your sense now, and if you can walk us through some of these states that you're working on, where you're really seeing that we are, because I look at the numbers on the Democratic side, and correct me if I'm wrong, it's the exact opposite.
You see a lack of intensity, a lack of urgency, and they're not getting these low-propensity voters out?
unidentified
Yeah, no, that's totally right.
Pennsylvania is actually a really good example of this.
In Pennsylvania, they've got more Democrats who've returned their ballots than Republicans, although We are doing about 20 points better than we have done there in the past in the early vote, but still behind in Pennsylvania.
But it is our low propensity voters in Pennsylvania who are voting now.
It is their high propensity voters who are voting early.
So the Pennsylvania early vote for Democrats is just their same old people who have been voting early because they were afraid of COVID or whatever in 2020.
But we're actually getting our early folks out and we see this exact same thing Every place.
We see it in North Carolina, we see it in Georgia, AZ, Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan.
It's the same story over and over again.
peter navarro
Chris, let me ask you this question.
I'm in Georgia.
I'm on my way.
To Charlie Kirk's rally with the president and the driver's telling me that Kamala's hitting the black churches and they've got buses outside the black churches that immediately are bussing people to go vote.
That's powerful stuff.
Now, are we doing anything like that?
steve bannon
Hang on.
They had the souls to vote and it was a flop.
Traditionally, it's been pretty strong, but my information, I think you see the data, it's not working for her like it hasn't been.
peter navarro
My question to Chris is whether...
As part of the effort, do we provide transportation?
steve bannon
Is Ralph Reed sophisticated?
So we have a problem.
The Christians have not turned out like we thought they were in years past, right?
Or at least this time.
peter navarro
Bird in the hand.
Bird in the hand and a bus to the poles is worth two in the bush.
Thoughts?
unidentified
Yeah, a couple things.
One is just to underscore what you said, Steve, like the so-called souls to the poles.
We saw the data from that yesterday and this morning.
And basically nothing happened.
It just didn't move the needle.
They did get a little bit of a...
It was just totally marginal.
And you're right.
Historically, souls to the poles has been a big thing.
It just seems like it kind of faded.
There just wasn't any energy there.
In terms of getting people out, physically driving people...
Some folks are definitely out there.
They're doing it.
I learned, I probably should have known this phrase years ago, but I learned a new phrase called knock and drag, which is just kind of like a joke for like, you know, you knock on people's door.
Hey, do you want to go?
That's that for some people.
It's actually amazing to me.
For low-propensity voters, that actually matters.
Just being able to get there can be the difference between whether or not they vote.
peter navarro
No, it's a big deal.
I mean, a lot of people who don't vote have other obligations or they're constrained in terms of their ability to travel freely.
steve bannon
Chris, can you hang on for another segment?
I know you're out with Tucker and the president today, right?
What time is that going to start?
unidentified
I think it's at 5 my time.
5 Pacific.
steve bannon
5 p.m.
Okay, we just want to hold you one more second.
Caroline Wren's with us.
We've got Seagal Chatter up in Nevada.
The president, I think, is in Nevada right now.
I saw the venue look packed.
I mean, it's another fantastic day.
Okay, folks.
peter navarro
There are no unpacked Trump venues.
I can assure you of that.
Because, you know, see, everywhere you go, if you go to a venue, there's twice as many people outside as in.
steve bannon
Big time.
Trump's hot.
peter navarro
It's a hot ticket.
And look, he's in a political state of grace right now.
The man is funny, warm, in control, and he's having fun with this.
When you dodge a literal bullet, and you know who you are, and what needs to be done, political grace, sir.
steve bannon
It's amazing.
Um...
But it's through human agency that we're going to win this, this audience's agency.
Chris Busker, Peter Navarro, Caroline Wren, Seagal Chata, next in The Warrior.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
steve bannon
Welcome back.
The two convicts, co-convicts.
I don't know if being in a club fed makes you a convict.
Buzz Kirk, are you specifically, because you're out in Arizona, are you specifically focused on areas throughout the country?
Tell us about your team, the size of it, and particularly what the War Room Posse can do to assist you, man.
unidentified
Yeah, so look, as I was saying in the last segment, we have a very, very specific mission, which is get the low-admin propensity Trump supporter and turn that person into a Trump voter.
Get them out.
Make sure they get the ballot in.
Make sure they vote.
We're in all seven of the swing states.
We've got darn close to 3,000 people in the field.
We are going to be in the field right through Election Day.
We're just in the process here over the next day or two We're sort of converting over from just pure early voting and getting those early ballots in to the point where we're doing the election day push, the old-fashioned.
People used to do a 72-hour program before election day to make sure people got out.
We're doing a 96-hour.
It's just a major, major surge here right into the finish.
So we're going to run through the tape.
Yeah.
Anybody who wants to do anything?
peter navarro
Is anybody doing Nebraska?
Who's the one in Nebraska?
unidentified
Yeah, there's the one.
There is that one congressional district.
peter navarro
I had to do that over again.
We'd be doing that one, too.
Added to the list.
steve bannon
You have, like, the uncle that comes to Thanksgiving and has, like, a beer.
I'm just trying to think.
peter navarro
These guys are doing a great job.
I'm telling you, they're doing a great job.
But it's all about this.
And you have five days to get folks in.
steve bannon
That's establishment.
In the mass mobilization, you've done all you can do now for the early voting, Buzz Kirk.
The 3,000 paid staffers you got.
The mass mobilization.
Walk me through how that's going to work.
I got this guy going on a bus tour.
I got people all over.
Walk me through your weekend of how you mobilize guys for Tuesday and particularly mobilize them and say, hey, when you show up at a polling booth, you may not be in and out in 15 minutes.
You may have to pack a lunch.
unidentified
Yeah, look, I mean, I'll give you a good example.
It's a funny thing, but some of this stuff is just so simple.
A lot of times, you know, with low or mid-propensity voters, one of the things that inhibits them from voting, they don't know where to go, right?
It's like we see our people, our canvassers at the door.
Are you going to go vote?
I don't know.
I'm not sure.
Like, I'm not sure where do I go.
You just have to tell them, give them a map or show them on the, you know, tell them it's like the Lutheran church down the street or whatever it is and make sure they know that, you know, and I'll point even to a more extreme example of that is, you know, In Western North Carolina, where Hurricane Milton was just devastated.
If you were going to drop a hurricane on top of Trump voters, that was the place to do it.
So our folks out there, we immediately reinforced that area because there was a period there where the polling places were totally unknown because they were still digging out from the damage.
And we basically took the approach in Western North Carolina that everybody was a low-propensity voter because you had all these displaced, high-propensity voters.
You didn't know where they were.
They didn't know where they were going to vote.
They didn't know where the polling places were.
And so a lot of it is just like, are you going to vote?
Do you know how to do it?
And you know where to do it.
It's like a lot of this is just very, very simple blocking and tackling, but you have to do it one-on-one.
peter navarro
Chris, what is Trump Force 47 doing in your knowledge?
And are you integrating with any of their efforts?
Because that was a big one that the president and others were pushing on the rally to sign up with.
unidentified
I can't tell you how many times I've been asked.
peter navarro
It's not too late, by the way.
unidentified
Trump Force 47.
I go to these rallies.
They always ask me.
So they're They've actually been doing a great job getting people signed up.
They train them.
They deploy them.
And so, you know, are they doing anything?
Yeah, they're doing actually really, really good work.
And, you know, one of the big things with field work is, like, the big hack is, how do you get good motivated people who are, you know, they're not just there to try and, you know, like, scam you or get a couple dollars or whatever.
The people who are signing up for Trump Force 47, good people.
Like, really, really good people.
I'm happy they're out there.
peter navarro
Yeah.
I thought they were garbage, Chris.
Wasn't that the best gaffe ever, Steve?
Come on.
steve bannon
It was on purpose.
He's the number one guy trying to sinker.
Chris, I want to talk about, before I let you go, the FEC rule.
This is because you had these independent groups.
You got Elon's group.
You got Miriam Ellison's group.
You got Charlie Kirk.
You got Chris Buskirk.
You got the Christians over with Ralph Reed.
But this FEC change, the campaign, because you normally argue you can't let your Get Out to Vote be outside organizations because you can't coordinate by law.
And if you can't coordinate, I mean, 16, it was the Get Out to Vote that saved us because we had no money, right?
And that was all self-organizing, right?
What is the change in FEC that allowed the campaign at least to be able to process data for you guys?
unidentified
Yeah, so this is actually like, it's like this little rule change that they made earlier in the year that the FEC made, which is to allow an outside group like a super PAC to coordinate in a very specific way with a campaign.
So any federal campaign, so in this case a presidential campaign, they changed the rules so that they permitted or now permit the campaign to coordinate with outside groups for the one purpose of doing field work.
And what that means in practice is that groups like ours, like Turnout for America, can enter into a data sharing agreement with the campaign.
The campaign can do all the data work and say, look, we've already figured out who the people are, who are the targets.
You know, Sally Sue Jones and Jack Johnson or whatever.
And here they are.
And now here's the data.
Here's your targets.
Now you go out and do the work.
You put everybody into the field and go get them.
That's, I think, pretty self-evidently a big deal.
But if you think about it for a second, it's even more important because what it means is when you have multiple groups that have entered into these data sharing agreements with the campaign, that the campaign is effectively able to quarterback who is going after what target.
So you get a much more efficient use of capital.
You don't have to worry about people overlapping and going after the same targets multiple times or leaving other people.
peter navarro
If the Biden regime did that, there's got to be analogs on their side to your organizations.
Do you know who's doing that for them and whether they're effective?
Is this a Mark Elias thing or what?
unidentified
No, I mean, look, there's this whole constellation of super PACs on the left.
Look, our side has raised a lot of money this year, and we're still being outspent in the aggregate by the left.
There's just a lot of dollars flowing that way.
But, you know, with a lot of dollars, there's waste, too.
They're not perfect.
So they are definitely doing a lot of field work.
I still think we're doing a better job on our side this time.
steve bannon
Their structure is the DNC's small.
They don't have a consultant class, but they have these outside groups.
The reason the FCC and they push for it is that this is kind of their stock and trade.
I mean, this is how they roll.
What's amazing about Buzz Kirk, Elon, Miriam, Charlie Kirk, and Ralph is that so quickly we were able...
Remember, we had a natural tendency not to want to do early voting, right?
But now that's totally changed.
These numbers are amazing.
Buzz Kirk, we're going to let you go to work.
We'd love to have you back over the weekend and the mass mobilization weekend.
But I want people to...
Where do they go to the site?
How do they find out more about what you're working on?
And if they're so interested, they hit you with a $10 or $20 donation.
unidentified
Yeah, turnoutforamerica.org.
Just go there and you can find out all about what's going on.
steve bannon
You have a social media.
What's your handle on Twitter or on True Social or wherever you are?
unidentified
I'm not familiar with Twitter.
Is that kind of like X? Whoa.
peter navarro
She's been away for a while.
steve bannon
I still can't call it X. No, when I was banned for life, which you weren't, when I was banned in perpetuity, it was called Twitter.
unidentified
And I'm still not unbanned, I don't think.
steve bannon
Where did people get you, Chris?
unidentified
Yeah, at the Chris Busker.
There it is.
steve bannon
Okay, brother.
Thank you so much for coming on.
All right.
Thanks, guys.
unidentified
Talk soon.
steve bannon
One of our top public intellectuals in the MAGA movement and now a guy that has put his shoulder to the wheel.
This turnout, get out the vote operation is imperative.
I've got Caroline Wren joins me.
Peter Navarro and Natalie, we're going to get her up in a second.
Wren, I don't want to talk about the polling in a second, but what Buzz Kirk and Charlie are doing out in Arizona is quite frankly stunning.
Give us an update, ma'am.
caroline wren
It sure is.
In fact, I think there's been over 2 million ballots cast and Republicans have just taken a 163,000 ballot lead in Arizona in early voting.
And that's pretty astronomical, let me tell you.
Those are very, very strong numbers.
In fact, a Dem consultant, and I also saw Decision Desk HQ, said that you're entering into what is potentially an R-plus-9, R-plus-10 environment.
And so that is just because Republicans are turning out in droves right now because they are so sick of the horrible policies of this administration.
But I know you've talked a lot about what these outside groups have done, but Steve, don't forget what you have done.
You really started all of this when you had the precinct captains and others take over these state and local GOP groups and Republican GOP groups at the state level all the way down to your local GOP county levels are activated like I've never seen them in my entire life.
They are motivated.
And that was all the war room posse and the work that y'all have laid for the past four years.
And I really think that is a massive part.
And it doesn't have to do with any sort of funding.
It is just highly motivated people that took over these county parties.
And they are doing just unbelievable work here in Arizona.
steve bannon
This is what you were talking about.
peter navarro
And I hear that.
I hear that on the bus tour, man.
steve bannon
Talk to me about North Carolina and Georgia because that's the substrate of the war room.
Posse has done this.
And then you had these outside groups with heavy hitters.
peter navarro
When I go to these groups, Steve...
steve bannon
You converge those two?
peter navarro
When I go to these groups, they'd all ask me how you were doing.
And over half of them knew about the war room and the posse, and a lot of them were straight out posse.
So this is what happens out in the grassroots.
unidentified
Wow.
steve bannon
Amazing.
So talk to me about...
Kerry Lake.
I'm going to hold you over to the next block.
Tell me about Kerry Lake because I'm feeling that we could pull this off.
caroline wren
Well, a new poll just came out of several of the swing states for the Senate races, and it's by Atlas Intel.
Atlas was the most accurate pollster in 2020.
And it had, again, several of these states, and Cary Lake was the only one who's actually winning, which is just unbelievable when you look at the fact that Mitch McConnell has spent $400 million in all these other states, zero dollars, zero in Arizona.
Yet Cary Lake is the only GOP candidate that is leading in their final poll leading into Election Day.
It's not that surprising to you and I because we've always known that this race was going to be tight and that Carrie Lake is an incredible candidate and that the people of Arizona love her.
But to see it reflected in those polling up against Mitch McConnell just sending no money was a good thing today.
steve bannon
Okay, hang on.
We're going to get that up.
I want to talk about that.
peter navarro
Dr.
steve bannon
Peter Navarro is in the house.
Natalie Winters is anchoring in West Palm Beach.
Caroline Wren.
is in the ultra-MAGA state of Arizona.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Caroline, see, I got that.
Denver, I think, has got it, or Palm Beach has got it, but I want to read it if we can't get it up, because it's pretty shocking.
This is Atlas, which had the best record.
It's on your thing.
You can look at it, Navarro.
So they have five polls, their last polls.
They've got Baldwin is up 0.2 over the Bayonair in Wisconsin.
Casey's up 3.6.
In Pennsylvania.
Rosen's up 1.9 over the Army officer in Nevada.
Slotkin's over 3.2 over Rogers in Michigan.
And wait for it.
Cary Lake in Arizona is up 0.7%.
Now, correct me if I'm wrong.
Of those four candidates, he's piled in $200 million into those four, $50 million each, Caroline Wren, Mitch McConnell?
unidentified
You got that correct.
peter navarro
Yeah, yeah.
steve bannon
And Carrie Lake, she got her $50 million check too, right?
That's how she's up.
Mitch McConnell gave her $50 million.
Stephen Law and Mitch McConnell gave her $50 million.
peter navarro
He's trying to wire the next Senate majority leader.
And he's screwing up just like he did in Georgia.
He gave away those races in Georgia.
steve bannon
It's not the Senate majority.
McConnell's telling the donors he's going to Trump-proof the process.
peter navarro
The first star you do is he puts his hand-picked Senate majority leader in there if he gets the majority.
You know how this works, brother.
steve bannon
Rick Scott.
peter navarro
That's our guy.
steve bannon
Loomer's all over this.
She's on a warpath right now.
And that's a pretty good one you want to have out there.
She's the avenging angel on this.
Tell me about Carrie Lake.
How much is Trump up?
Is the math work if Trump wins by four?
In Arizona, which is a lift.
peter navarro
What's he got to win by?
steve bannon
What has he got to win by to drag Kerry Lake across the goal line here?
caroline wren
See, I think Kerry and Trump are just going to run completely together.
So I do think that if there is an undervote sometimes, if people just vote for the top of the ticket and then they don't vote down ballot.
And so there is a good chance that Trump obviously will be up, let's say, three points higher than Kerry.
But that's not because these are Trump-Gallego voters.
That's a fiction.
That's not a real thing that exists.
I found no Trump Gallego voter except for the AP did one story two weeks ago where they quoted a Trump Gallego voter who ended up being a convicted felon out of Missouri who wasn't even a voter in Arizona.
So that just shows you the lack of Trump Gallego voters there are.
But there are people out there that just go in and vote the top of the ticket.
We need them not to.
At the War Room Posse, you have to finish that ballot.
And, you know, we have to go Donald Trump, Carrie Lake, and then we've got some great congressional candidates.
You've got Eli Crane, you've got Abe Hameda, you have Paul Gosar.
We have some real rock stars here.
So it's important to keep going down that ballot.
But I do think that Trump and Carrie Lake are going to win Arizona together.
That has always been the position that we've maintained.
68 of the last 69 Senate races where Donald Trump was on the ballot, the Republican Senate candidate and Donald Trump won or lost that state together.
Carrie Lake and Donald Trump are going to win.
And there are a couple other races that SLF didn't invest in, I want to remind you.
peter navarro
Caroline, one thing.
I want to say one thing about Gallego.
I mean, the one thing that works in his favor would be historic to have the son of a drug kingpin For Mexico actually to be in the Senate.
I mean, think about that just for a minute.
Go ahead.
Sorry to interrupt.
caroline wren
Yeah, and I think he might be the first Senate candidate I've heard of that left his wife when she was nine months pregnant, served her with divorce papers, insisted that she pay, by the way, his attorney fees three days before she gives birth.
So let's not leave that out.
There's a couple of firsts that you get with Ruben Gallego.
peter navarro
Yeah, don't forget the lobbyist in Washington.
steve bannon
And I want to bring Natalie in on this after you explain it to me.
So you've got huge breaking news out of Arizona on the Secretary of State.
And this one kind of blows my mind, the way you've said it, Navarro, saying to you right now.
Is this real or is this too good to check?
Caroline, explain to me your tweet or the tweet you've posted up there and how big a deal is this?
caroline wren
Sure.
Well, when they had you locked up, there was some breaking news out of this.
289,000 voters they magically discovered were not confirmed U.S. citizens, and this had to do with a change in laws dating back to the 90s.
What happened was, actually, Stephen Richer brought this to the attention of some different folks.
The Democrats, the Democrat Attorney General, the Secretary of State, Democrat Governor, they all huddled to try to decide what to do.
The Republican Party decided not to sue, which we were very against, and said, are you guys crazy?
You should sue over this.
This is nuts.
And so America First Legal stepped in and did the lawsuit themselves, which is why these outside groups of America First folks are great.
They just won this lawsuit today, and the judge says that they have to release Who these 100,000 voters are?
They have to do it by Monday.
And so that way the public, I guess, is able to see that and we can confirm whether or not people are U.S. citizens and who are voting.
But it's still, this is a little bit too late, I think.
This should have been done immediately as soon as Stephen Richard came out and said, hey, we just happened to find these folks.
By the way, they originally said it was $100,000, then all of a sudden it became $289,000.
We think it's probably upwards of $500,000 that have never confirmed the U.S. citizenship.
So it is a big win.
America First Legal is doing great work, and so we're excited to see that and see what Stephen Miller can come up with.
steve bannon
Hold on, so just on Monday, because the thing says 218,000, but then the ruling says 98,000, they have to show who the names are so we can check it?
Can we take those people off so they can't vote on Tuesday?
If they've already voted, you don't know where their ballot is, right, in pre, but for the ones that have not voted, if they can't show citizenship, they're off for Tuesday?
caroline wren
No.
Right now, the Arizona Supreme Court ruled that actually – that they could not remove them from the voter rolls and that they were going to let all these people vote without having to confirm citizenship, which is illegal.
Like, per the Arizona Constitution, you have to prove citizenship to be able to vote.
vote.
That was a law that was passed in our state.
And so it was very egregious when the Supreme Court allowed that to happen.
And again, the Supreme Court ruled when there was only 98,000, and then the Secretary of State's office came out later and said it was 218,000.
That's why this specific ruling is only referencing these 98,000, because again, there's still lag time into how many, and they're going off of their, I guess, the original ruling.
So I actually, I'm not sure exactly what happens once this list comes out, what the process is going to be to check that because this just happened a couple of hours ago And so I'm going to be talking later today with Gina Svoboda, Harmeet Dillon I'm meeting with tonight.
She's been a great, you know, she's here on the ground now to help us fight.
We have some real rock star attorneys that have come in and then we'll go from there.
steve bannon
What are we going to do on more ballot locations people will vote?
Some people have told me, hey, don't get too worked up because a lot of people are not going to take all this down ballot on the four-page ballot, so it's not going to take 18 to 22 minutes.
What's the latest on that?
Because people are saying, hey, if it's 18 to 22 minutes, you could have a two-hour wait on Election Day, ma'am.
caroline wren
This is what's keeping me very nervous.
I think it's a form of voter suppression.
They are refusing to open more polling locations, and this dates back to COVID in 2020 when we used to have small precincts that you would go vote in.
Instead, they turned them into these mass voting centers in Maricopa County, which is You know, 60% plus of our entire state and they vote in these mass voting centers.
And so I think the lines are going to be long, but we just people have to stay in line and vote.
And also I tell people, go to the most liberal area.
When this happened in 2022 to Cary Lake and there were four hour, six hour lines because of the tabulator issues, Cary Lake went downtown to the most liberal area of Arizona and she was able to walk right in and vote no problem.
So that's what I'm telling people, is you can vote in any of these polling locations.
Go look for the most liberal polling location and go vote there, and there'll probably be less of a line, because our people are going to be showing up in absolute droves, and we need that.
So just, if there is a line, stay in it.
I mean, come on, our country is on the line.
So if you cannot wait in line for four hours, then go ahead and vote early.
That ends on Friday.
But please, if it is a long line, just stay in there and bank your vote.
steve bannon
Okay, Natalie, Caroline, hang on for a second.
I want to bring in, you've got some breaking news talking about the Secretary of State of Arizona.
Where's he been spending his time, Natalie Winters?
natalie winters
Well, we just uncovered essentially an event that was co-hosted both by Mark Elias, your favorite, and Norm Eisen, sort of the tip of the spear when it comes to all things color revolution.
And as a partnership between Democracy Docket and the State Democracy Defenders PAC... Which is essentially Norm Eisen's group.
They sponsored sort of a web event where they featured Secretary of States from a myriad of states.
But you guessed it, Adrian Fontes was up busy preaching the gospel of how talented he is at his job with, I think, two key buried leads there.
One being that they're participating in events that are actively sponsored by people like Norm Eisen who have no interest in cleaning voter rolls, right?
They love rigging elections.
But more importantly, I think it shows you what they're spending their time doing.
And two, the whole story of how the Arizona voter rolls even became public was really sort of a clandestine operation in the sense that they only tried to release it through this weird Washington Post article where someone had been recording phone calls, but they weren't really necessarily forthright with it.
And Steve, too, I think we also have to just zoom out because when you look at what's happening in Colorado with the Secretary of State, Jenna Griswold, who was also, believe it or not, on that very same event, she's been caught having posted the passwords, over 700 of them, for all voter access points over 700 of them, for all voter access points in their election systems for months.
Over 700 of them.
Tina Peters went to jail for exposing one.
She's refused to step down, but the real buried lead, they were pressing her in interviews on local media, And she said that they weren't going to tell the public had the state GOP not come forward with the fact that these passwords had like I said been out open in a public spreadsheet for months.
unidentified
Unbelievable.
steve bannon
Caroline Fontes, he's going to be a guy that's trying to thwart everything.
How are Trump and Carrie Lake going to pull this off, and where's she going to be?
I take it the president is coming to Arizona in a while.
Tucker Carlson's putting on an event.
Busker's going to be there.
What's Carrie's plan for over the weekend to do a mass mobilization of Arizona MAGA? Well, Adrian Fontes is a former cartel attorney.
caroline wren
I'm actually surprised.
We could probably find something.
I wonder if he represented Ruben Gallego's father.
That might be something to look into.
But when it comes to Arizona, you know what?
We are hoping to be prepared for everything, but the amount of tricks that they play, it's unbelievable, which is why we keep telling people we have to make it— We're good to go.
I think I'm going to go.
We're very excited.
Our staff is working harder than I've ever seen.
We have some of the best staff in the entire world.
And it is going to be very, very fun when Cary Lake wins this race and goes to Washington, D.C., not having to owe Mitch McConnell or GOP leadership a damn thing.
peter navarro
Amen!
Amen, sister!
steve bannon
Caroline, where do people get you?
Where do they get Cary Lake?
caroline wren
If you can go to tpaction.com slash chase, that's a great way for you to go help.
The other thing is, if you want to help our campaign, you can go to carrolake.com slash contribute.
And for me, it is at Caroline Wren on Twitter, Getter, and Truth Social.
steve bannon
Charlie Kirk and his team have done an amazing job out there in Arizona.
It's just been phenomenal.
Caroline, look forward to getting back together with you tomorrow for another update.
We've got Seagal's going to join us, Chad at Nevada.
We've got Natalie.
Peter's going to stick with me.
I want to make sure.
The stock market's at an all-time high, and gold is near an all-time high.
That normally doesn't happen.
Is that correct, sir?
peter navarro
That is correct.
And the expectation here driving gold up is that the Federal Reserve, J. Powell, moved too quick and that inflation is fully embedded.
And that unless we drill baby drill and claw back some of that money that was unwisely spent, We will get...
steve bannon
The rate of inflation is coming down.
What they don't understand is that that's still...
From what?
peter navarro
And it's going to bounce back.
See, that's what they're not telling you.
If you look at kind of what's happening in forecasting and out, it's not a good thing, brother.
steve bannon
Birchgold.com slash ban and get Philip Patrick and the team.
They'll walk you through the details, but Navarro's one million percent correct.
That's what you need to know about precious metals as a hedge.
I mean, right now, he's been on fire as an investment.
unidentified
You need to understand this at vertgold.com forward slash band.
steve bannon
Sure.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
steve bannon
Okay.
Navarro's got to go.
Jeff Clark's going to be in studio.
Natalie, we've got a bunch of stuff with Natalie to go through with Jeff.
Before we go to Pennsylvania, I get the done with debt guys, second year anniversary being with us.
This is what, you know, the papers today, oh, the GDP 2.8%, the economy's great, why don't people appreciate it?
Well, the economy's not great for working class and middle class people.
They're getting crushed.
They're having to, inflation's embedded.
The way we're financing the deficit with this short term like Argentina is embedding inflation there.
People are relying upon credit cards.
To meet, you know, monthly expenses.
The credit cards are 25% APR. These folks are going bankrupt.
Dr.
Navarro, am I incorrect in that?
peter navarro
See, the problem here and the reason why I think Trump's going to win, people are choosing between food on the table, medicine in the cabinet, a roof over their head, and books and clothes for the kids to go to school.
That's the choice right now.
And at the margin...
The desperate ones are using the credit cards, and then you've got the problem of the inflation that's squeezing them, and it shows up in the credit card debt numbers.
steve bannon
It's $1.4 trillion.
peter navarro
How do these bastards charge 23% interest rate on a credit card?
steve bannon
It's a 25 to 29 because they get the fees.
peter navarro
It's frigging insane, but it's squeezing people.
And then you've got the mortgage rates, which are up to like 9, 10 percent.
steve bannon
Okay, stop.
peter navarro
Stop.
steve bannon
Because when Donald Trump left office, the 10-year treasury was at 0.9 percent.
And the 10-year treasury today is 4.2 percent.
So they probably...
peter navarro
We haven't seen anything like this since the 70s tagflation.
Exactly.
And it's all, as President Trump has said in his speeches, it's all politician error.
It's Jay Powell interfering with this election through the activities of using the Federal Reserve to cut rates too fast.
steve bannon
Hang on.
You've got to start watching the war room.
Because the political class is just a collection of clowns.
I'm here half the time.
It's the Wall Street guys want the easy money.
Of course.
This is why there's no fighting about them.
peter navarro
I get it.
steve bannon
This is why they've made...
peter navarro
Yeah, but Powell did that simply to stimulate the economy before the election.
That's all.
You know that, Steve.
They were in a race, right?
The idea was to keep the game going until November 5th.
Guess what?
They lost.
They hit a wall.
It's obvious to everybody.
They didn't get away with it.
And here's the thing, Steve.
Here's a little economics for the other side of the river.
It's like the fact that the Fed's lowering rates and the long bonds rates are staying high or going up tells you all you need to know.
The long bond is telling you that, hey, they're going too fast and they're inducing inflation and hard times are ahead.
steve bannon
And the guys have a dependent bond.
First off, it's 1.4% trade, I think, now in credit card debt at 25% to 29% APR because the fees get calculated in there.
And correct me if I'm wrong, I think 10% of that's non-performing.
So all of a sudden you're talking about $200 billion, $250 billion of non-performing credit card.
We're going to have them done with that, guys.
That's why working class people, you turn at these low-propensity voters, they're voting Trump.
They're voting Trump's economic program.
They're saying, hey, 18 and 19 were better in my community.
They were better for me personally.
They've seen the actions of Trump versus the rhetoric.
Of Harris.
peter navarro
And let's not forget that the reason, one of the big reasons food prices are so high, it's the drill baby drill problem.
It's like fertilizer is natural gas based and when you go to phosphates, it's energy intensive.
And it's all this part of the inflationary bomb that Harris dropped with her two tie-breaking votes on two of the biggest budget-busting bills.
I mean, can you imagine, Steve, if we, at the beginning of their administration, we said they're going to increase the debt.
25% from where it was in four years from the start of our history.
Think about that.
steve bannon
But finance it short term, like Argentina.
peter navarro
Ain't working.
steve bannon
Pennsylvania, you're there tomorrow, Monica, Cash.
peter navarro
So what I've been doing, Steve, is I go back and I look at all the cool things that Donald Trump did for each of these states.
Like in North Carolina, it's like, I talk to these people, it's like, hey...
NAFTA, Clinton, and China into the WTO devastated your furniture industries and your textile industries.
I was in Greensboro.
Do you know this, Steve?
There was one point when every Levi gene in this country that people sat down on was made in Greensboro, North Carolina.
So now in Pennsylvania, it's like you go out to Newcastle.
You'd love this.
The day I went out there, they got these big giant Navy propellers that they forge out there.
You go the other side, Philly.
We saved the Philly shipyard.
You go to York where they make these special vehicles.
We saved that.
And then, of course, the steel tariffs and the aluminum tariffs.
You've got this stringing network of steel and aluminum plants all around the Pittsburgh area and across the state.
Trump saved those.
And Biden and Harris weakened those tariffs.
And those people, those are going down, including U.S. steel being bought by Nippon Steel.
steve bannon
Stop that.
That can't happen.
But Fetterman nailed it.
Fetterman said, hey, Donald Trump's Overwhelmingly popular in this state.
peter navarro
Because of this kind of stuff.
steve bannon
Exactly.
peter navarro
And my job when I go out there is to remind folks who weren't directly involved that their neighbors, their friends, their workers, their fellow Pennsylvanians got more prosperous because of policies that were worker-friendly.
steve bannon
How do people follow you on social media?
You're going to be in the show in Pennsylvania for the bus.
peter navarro
Real P. Navarro on Twitter.
unidentified
Okay.
peter navarro
And Peter Navarro on Truth Social.
steve bannon
Okay, you've got your books, your articles, where do they get all your content?
peter navarro
Well, the big deal is the new MAGA deal, the book.
NewMagadeal.com.
If Donald Trump gets in, it's 100 actions in 100 days.
steve bannon
If...
peter navarro
Hey, I don't want people getting confident here.
I do not, Steve.
That's a disease, man.
We run from behind.
That's what we do.
Get your ass off the couch.
Get to the polls.
Take 10 people with you.
I'm going to keep saying that because this has got to be too big to steal, okay?
We made it.
We didn't hit that mark last time.
steve bannon
Is Navarra feisty enough who booked this guy?
You're amazing.
peter navarro
Hey, you know, when I went to prison, we trained for this shit, man.
We came out lean and hungry, man.
I'm wondering, Kyle.
I'm watching you.
Still the judgment's still out, brother.
steve bannon
There's a difference between prison and club fed.
Did you get your backhand down?
What's your handicap now?
unidentified
I can hit with both hands.
peter navarro
The War Room loves you, brother.
You're out there.
When I'm out there, when I say Steve Bannon, the crowd responds.
steve bannon
I tell you what, it's about this audience.
It's about the great job that Cameron and Grace, Grace is going to be on here to talk about this audience.
Divine Providence works, but it works through human agency.
We've got...
We have Natalie Winters.
Jeff Clark's going to join us.
We've got a lot to go through on the weekend of mass mobilization for next Tuesday.
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