Sept. 7, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is what you're fighting for. | ||
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I mean, every day you're out there. | |
| What they're doing is blowing people off. | ||
| If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians, get total control and total power. | ||
| Because this is just like in Arizona. | ||
| This is just like in Georgia. | ||
| It's another element that backs them into a corner and shows their lies and misrepresentations. | ||
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This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged. | |
| As we've told you, this is the fight. | ||
| All this nonsense, all this spin. | ||
| They can't handle the truth. | ||
| War Room Battleground. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Friday, 6th of September. | ||
| I'm not Dominic 2000 and 24. | ||
| We've made it, folks, to the end of the week. | ||
| Yesterday on the show, we discussed and some Adjustments, late adjustments on the Trump campaign, who's pulling out resources from New Hampshire, Minnesota and Virginia to concentrate on those so-called blue wall states of Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. | ||
| When we discussed this yesterday, we were at pains to point out that three states are remaining untouched with this adjustment, and those three states are North Carolina, Arizona and Nevada. | ||
| So on the subject of North Carolina, which is still a big priority for the Trump campaign, My opening guest today is Michelle Morrow. | ||
| Now, we've had her on the show before. | ||
| She's standing for state superintendent on public instruction, beloved candidate of the education industrial complex. | ||
| Michelle, good morning to you. | ||
| There's been a development today, right, in North Carolina that the mail-in ballots are going out from today. | ||
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That's exactly right, and so it's important that everybody here in North Carolina understands that the election officially begins on Monday. | |
| People will start casting their votes. | ||
| So we have 60 days until November 5th, and it's time for us to be engaged, and we must have all hands on deck. | ||
| We cannot leave anything on the table on November 6th, and we must be talking to our friends, our neighbors, Our coworkers, our peers, if we're in a classroom, about the importance of this election in protecting our faith, our family, and our freedoms and ensuring that we remain a constitutional republic because that really is what is at stake. | ||
| Tell me, Michelle, what is the engagement like there in North Carolina right now? | ||
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Well, you know, we have boots on the ground. | |
| We have had the Trump 47 force in many of our cities knocking doors. | ||
| We have been working. | ||
| I've been working literally since January in order to try to secure this position. | ||
| And I think now that the Labor Day season has passed, People are now becoming engaged and really paying attention to who's on the ballot and what's happening and what we need to do to make sure that North Carolina stays red and that we get President Trump back into the White House. | ||
| Well, you said when you came on the show before that your priorities were really to pivot towards education. | ||
| I know that's an astonishing, controversial thing for state superintendents to be interested in. | ||
| Could you expand on that a little bit and just give a quick overview for the Warren Posse, exactly what your priorities are that you will implement should you be victorious? | ||
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Certainly. | |
| One thing that we have to do is we have to make our schools the safest buildings in the state. | ||
| We are seeing travesty after travesty, and there is no reason in 2024 why our staff and our students need to sit as potential victims of violent crime. | ||
| And that is not just discussing things that could be happening from the outside threats. | ||
| It's also we've got to bring a system of civility and respect and discipline back to our classrooms. | ||
| Here in North Carolina I think it's the same around the country. | ||
| We are losing our valuable teachers. | ||
| We are losing students every year because there is there's just chaos in our classrooms and they're not getting the education that they need to be able to pursue careers and make them critical thinkers and problem solvers and the the engineers and the the scientists and the leaders that we're going to need in | ||
| the future. | ||
| And so that's why academics have to be trumping the political and social activism | ||
| that right now is poisoning our kids' minds, and it's robbing them of the education they need to be | ||
| successful adults. | ||
| Well, we have a great presence following the war in Possick in North Carolina. | ||
| What specifically is there anything that the Posse can do there to support you in this campaign? | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| I need funds so that I can fight against this educational-industrial complex. | ||
| My opponent is the absolute antithesis. | ||
| He is fighting to keep a system that is failing our students running, and he just believes that if we throw more money at it, that our kids will be able to read and write and do math. | ||
| And our children are—it's been an abysmal failure in literacy rates. | ||
| Right now, only 25% of our eighth graders across North Carolina last year were found | ||
| to be at grade level in math, reading, or science. | ||
| And so it's time for everybody to get engaged. | ||
| I tell people, you have 60 days to sacrifice. | ||
| What is that gonna look like? | ||
| Is that going to be writing a check that maybe you feel the impact of that? | ||
| Is that going to be having a hard conversation with someone? | ||
| Maybe getting canceled on Facebook, maybe getting called a name, whatever it might be. | ||
| Is that going to be going and standing at the polls and asking people to finish their ballot and fill in every last conservative from the top to the bottom, the front to the back, so that we can ensure that we have a country to give to our children and to our grandchildren that is going to be safe, that's going to be prosperous, and that's going to be free? | ||
| So if they can go to my website, It's morrow4nc.com. | ||
| That's M-O-R-R-O-W, the number 4-N-C dot com. | ||
| They can sign up and volunteer. | ||
| They can sign up for my email list. | ||
| They can send that out. | ||
| Or they can donate so that I can get my message across to every voter in North Carolina. | ||
| And we can defeat this failing system and actually focus on students rather than a political agenda. | ||
| Michelle, outstanding. | ||
| Come back on the show soon, please, and give us an update of everything that's going on in North Carolina. | ||
| Wish you the best of luck. | ||
| God bless. | ||
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Thank you, you too. | |
| So moving on now to United Sovereign Americans, Mali Horlik, who's a great presence here on the show. | ||
| Mali, good afternoon to you. | ||
| Can I just, I'm looking here at this latest legal appeal that you've got going, and it says in here, the note that you've put out, astonishing figure, really about three and a half million ballots have been in error in the 2022 cycle. | ||
| And you're trying to clean this up ahead of the 2024 election, obviously. | ||
| But could you just tell us a little bit about your findings here, digging on that statistic? | ||
| Because it's astonishing, especially in your own synthesis on this, that figure would amount to a vote error rate of 20% In Pennsylvania, 14 percent in Ohio and 14 percent in the aforementioned North Carolina, compared to the minimums established by Congress, which is zero point zero zero zero eight percent. | ||
| So that's that's that's absolutely explosive research that you put that you cited as the background to this latest legal challenge. | ||
| Yes, thank you. | ||
| That's the work of the incredible United Sovereign Americans team. | ||
| Our data analysis team is made up of volunteers from across the country who are basically working for their, you know, their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor are all on the line. | ||
| Hundreds and hundreds of years of big data auditing and experience and software development. | ||
| And this is what our audits of the registration lists and voter participation histories show | ||
| that these exactly like you said three and a half million votes that were counted from | ||
| registration records that don't meet any standard of legal validity or eligibility | ||
| according to the state's records and You know, sometimes it's hard to think about this because | ||
| we talk about these records and those records This voter registration list at the statewide level is the only document that exists in the entirety of this creation recording exactly which voters are legally registered for these particular states and which elections they legally voted in. | ||
| There's no other record That helps us understand how three and a half million people whose registration dates are invalid, or their birth dates are invalid, or they can't possibly be alive, because according to the state's records, they have to be 151 years old, or any of these issues. | ||
| This is the only record that exists. | ||
| And what they want us to do is just take their word for it. | ||
| But Congress said, hey, we can take their word for it. | ||
| Marley, tell me something about this figure, this 3.4 million figure. | ||
| and that's warranted. | ||
| But when we start to get out of the range of what's a reasonable amount of human error, | ||
| we have to suspect that the election has been compromised in some way. | ||
| And that's just the reality. | ||
| We don't live in kindergarten. | ||
| We live in the United States of America. | ||
| Marley, tell me something about this figure, this 3.4 million figure. | ||
| Is that figure, I don't know how to phrase this question, Is that figure officially recognized? | ||
| And will it become? | ||
| Is it necessary for that figure to be demonstrated as part of your legal challenge? | ||
| And if it is necessary, does that figure then enter the books as recognized as being valid, validated, if you will, by the courts? | ||
| Right, those are very good questions and I can only say that I fully expect if we are ever able to secure a hearing on the merits That question will arise and the credentials and certifications of our volunteer auditors will be obviously reviewed and their methodology will be reviewed. | ||
| We don't have a problem with that. | ||
| We have actually, in advance of filing a lawsuit in any state, we make sure that we provide the chief election official of that state with a comprehensive report regarding what we uncovered in their statewide registration list. | ||
| You know, this is an act of compassion to provide these lists. | ||
| It's an act of service, an act of patriotism, and an act of compassion. | ||
| Because unfortunately, under the United States Constitution, the chief election official of each state ultimately holds the bag on what gets certified in their state. | ||
| If they find these registration issues, these voting issues, these reconciliation issues compelling, we're happy to help to remedy these problems. | ||
| But so far, they're not interested. | ||
| They send us a cursory note saying, hey, this looks like 3.4 million clerical errors to me. | ||
| But Congress didn't allow for those number of errors. | ||
| For example, you talked about Pennsylvania with a 20% voting error rate. | ||
| Well, Pennsylvania, according to Congress, could have 34 errors statewide in counting ballots or counting votes. | ||
| And that's still legitimate. | ||
| That's OK. | ||
| But they ended up having more than a million. | ||
| That's not OK. | ||
| Marley, let me get this right here. | ||
| This research here, this is specifically referred to as As having emerged from 2022. | ||
| You're not trying, in this challenge here, you're not trying to overturn anything in 2022, are you? | ||
| You're using this research to back up your insistence for greater election integrity in 2024. | ||
| Is that correct? | ||
| Basically, yeah. | ||
| Actually, there's a couple of elements to focusing on 2022 that support and bolster our legal concerns. | ||
| So first of all, 2022 is the last federal election nationwide. | ||
| So making this into a national issue and being able to demonstrate across states that there is the same issue exists and it's material everywhere you look, meaning the number of errors and the number of issues that the state is sitting on and acting as if they're legitimate is egregious. | ||
| It's shocking. | ||
| And the other way that this is important has to do with laying a pathway for further legal action. | ||
| Now, I'm not the kind of person who wants to just sit around and file lawsuits. | ||
| But what we're seeing is that the people who we relied on for so long to get these things right have really fallen down on the job, whether it's the election officials, whether it's the representatives, whether it's the courts. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| They have not represented well the principle of representative government for the American Republic. | ||
| So our litigation strategy is designed to end with either total compliance or total accountability. | ||
| And setting the stage here with this mandamus lawsuit saying across these nine states, because we've now filed in Maryland, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida, Texas, Michigan, North Carolina, Colorado, and Georgia, all officially filed in federal court, saying, you know, all we're asking for right now is for this to be fixed. | ||
| But we're also citing all the fraud, we're citing all the laws that the state is responsible for upholding. | ||
| And you know what, if the state doesn't do it right, The second section of the 14th Amendment says they can lose apportionment. | ||
| If they go ahead knowing and having been warned through reports and having been warned through a mandamus legal action in nine states and federal court that they're accountable for these so-called clerical errors, their state can lose apportionment. | ||
| And I've had the privilege to meet with several state legislatures even just this week to help them understand The accountability that could be coming. | ||
| Mali, is there any precedent for that actually ever happening? | ||
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Actually, when the 14th Amendment itself was... On the basis, excuse me, let me clarify that. | |
| Is there any basis of a state losing its apportionment as a due consequence of having failed to ensure election integrity? | ||
| No, not to my knowledge. | ||
| There are numerous, very contentious historical moments immediately following the Civil War. | ||
| One of those was the ratification of the 14th Amendment itself, in which six southern states or denied their congressional votes on the matter of ratification. | ||
| They were not recognized by Congress as existing as states. | ||
| You can read the record. | ||
| It's pretty extraordinary. | ||
| Because they had tried to secede from the Union, which was, of course, a tremendous betrayal for The American people as a whole in what was not a new republic, but let's say less than 100 years, right? | ||
| So everyone was staking their lives, fortunes and sacred honor on this and six states said, hey, you know what? | ||
| We're out of here. | ||
| And that, of course, impacts everyone. | ||
| So they were not recognized in the vote on ratifying the 14th Amendment. | ||
| There were also significant moments where they attempted to deny electoral representation to a number of states in the elections of 1868 and 1876. | ||
| But this particular approach is new for this time, although it leverages the laws Congress passed fundamentally During the reconstruction era, and that works out well right now because the Supreme Court had a ruling just last year saying, hey, if you want to file 1983 lawsuits, | ||
| which are lawsuits that charge officials with depriving citizens of fundamental civil rights, acting under color of law, and they allow citizens to sue these officials, in some cases actually personally, to go after their personal assets for these deprivations. | ||
| The SCOTUS decided it was a decision written by Kavanaugh. | ||
| It said, hey, you know, if you want to do this, you have to go back to when the laws you're looking at were actually passed. | ||
| You have to go back to 1871. | ||
| How did Congress view these circumstances in 1871? | ||
| And I can tell you, Ben, in 1871, Congress dealt with election fraud with a sledgehammer. | ||
| Molly, I could spend the whole hour talking to you about this. | ||
| Suddenly we went out of time. | ||
| You're going to have to come back on the show. | ||
| Every time you come on the show, you drop a bomb, a depth charge. | ||
| This is absolutely astonishing. | ||
| The consequences are astonishing. | ||
| And I'd like to hear, next time you come on the show, I will definitely ask you how this latest lawsuit, how that might play out in the courts and how that might eventually give you, and the state legislators you mentioned you were talking to, how that might give you leverage here in threatening a state. | ||
| Because you have a huge crowbar that you're holding over, you know, when everything's revolving around electoral college votes, you have a huge crowbar now in your hands with this. | ||
| Very quickly, how can people learn more and or support United Sovereign Americans? | ||
| Sure, on X you can find me at Marley Hornick. | ||
| You can find United Sovereign Americans at UnitedSAmerican. | ||
| We need your help to continue this litigation process so you can go to our website USA4Freedom.com to help us with a donation or volunteer to be part of our advocacy program. | ||
| We're all about Helping everyone across America get clear about what makes an election reliable, a federal election reliable, and making sure that states understand their duty and that the law is upheld and everyone's invited. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Marlee Hornick, thanks very much for coming on the show today. | ||
| God bless. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| OK, so now we're going in some ways to my beloved homeland. | ||
| The Third World Banana Republic, formerly known as Great Britain. | ||
| Rich Stern, good afternoon to you. | ||
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Thanks for having me on. | |
| We're going to talk about the SAVE Act in just one moment, but I have to... | ||
| As a Brit, I have to muscle in and talk about Oasis first, and the whole issue on dynamic pricing, which is also a big thing in the States as well. | ||
| I just want to read out a quote on behalf of our Prime Minister, Sir Keir Starlin, who said, right, this is the debate over the outrage that this band called Oasis that had some success in the 1990s, God knows Why or how are we forming after 15 years? | ||
| And there's God knows how or why some demand, considerable demand for tickets to these concerts. | ||
| It's all the UK is talking about right now. | ||
| That and prisons, which we're going to come on to a little later. | ||
| Here's what Sir Keir Starlin said. | ||
| Right? | ||
| This is supposedly a free country. | ||
| We'll grip this and make sure that tickets are available at a price that people can actually afford. | ||
| Because I always thought, you know, I thought the UK was a free market economy. | ||
| I never thought that, actually, because I was well aware of the joke. | ||
| Tell me something. | ||
| I've got my bingo card of economic terms that you're likely to reference As you explain the nature of what prices are, right? | ||
| Because there seems to be some delusion in the British government, and not only the British government, that prices are arbitrary and static. | ||
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I thought all prices were dynamic. | |
| Absolutely. | ||
| Well, you know, if you're listening to liberals talk about economics, you might want to just throw the traditional bingo board out of the window. | ||
| You know, so I think this shows exactly what's going on here. | ||
| When you put a left-wing person in the office and you ask them what they think about the economy, they go right to that. | ||
| Regulations, printing money, having the government take more control over things. | ||
| And of course, what is the basic essential product that he cares about the price of? | ||
| The essential concert ticket. | ||
| You can't make this stuff up. | ||
| This is what left-wingers care about. | ||
| But you know, there's one other part to the story. | ||
| Why is inflation so bad in Britain? | ||
| Why is it so bad in the U.S. | ||
| or across Europe? | ||
| It's because the government's printed money. | ||
| In fact, government expansion of the money supply, whether you're talking about the euro, the British pound or the U.S. | ||
| dollar, has been tremendous. | ||
| And in fact, it has been higher than even the inflation we've seen so far. | ||
| And that's why inflation, that's why prices continue to tick up and up. | ||
| So sure, that means that concert prices are higher, but it's also why house prices are higher, groceries are higher, gas prices are higher. | ||
| So, you know, the fecklessness, right, of Keir, if you're talking about Stalin, to be talking about concert prices, when his government and his party have put forward such policies that created the excess money printing, that have regulated the British economy, that have made it so that people can't afford grocers, they can't afford gas, they can't afford to buy a home. | ||
| And it's not just there. | ||
| It's happening in the US as well, of course. | ||
| Richard, look, in the one minute that we have before the break, if the government were to attempt, just look, in 30 seconds, if the government, the British government, were to attempt to set a price ceiling on these concert tickets, what would happen? | ||
| Oh, Oasis would break back up again, right? | ||
| You know, the reason why prices are where they are is that's what the producer needs to sell it for to be able to cover the cost of production. | ||
| So if the government sets a price that's so low that you can't produce something, guess what? | ||
| You just go out of business. | ||
| And that's why in every place in all of human history, the price controls have been tried, you get shortages. | ||
| You get less investment, less growth and opportunities, fewer people being employed, lower wages, and less access to stuff. | ||
| Yeah, I'm astonished to see that the UK is turning so violently towards this Latin American form of populism. | ||
| Richard Stern, please stay with us. | ||
| We'll be back in two minutes after the break to discuss the latest on the SAVE Act. | ||
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| All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth. | ||
| War Room Battleground with Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Welcome back. | ||
| So on this show, we have been tirelessly covering the useless GOP and its performative insistence that it wants, as we know, citing explicitly here Speaker Mike no Johnson Johnson, going through the motions of expecting to get this Save Act, Chip Royce Save Act, tacked on to the continuing resolution. | ||
| Rich Stern, tell us, is this performative or is there any chance that it's actually going to come to pass? | ||
| I think sadly there's probably little chance it's going to pass. | ||
| However, I will say this though. | ||
| While it's performative, I think unfortunately for most of the people that are in the Congress, there is a good group of stalwart conservatives who really care about the country, who care about the border and security. | ||
| and care about election security that are actually putting this forward. | ||
| So, you know, at some level, I view this as a very good step | ||
| because it means that those conservative voices are starting to have real power and influence | ||
| and are getting the vote, even if the vote is not likely to pass. | ||
| So certainly a step in the right direction. | ||
| But, you know, what is it we're talking about here? | ||
| The SAVE Act would force states to actually collect real proof of citizenship | ||
| to be able to be on the voter rolls. | ||
| It would force states to clean up the voter rolls, to get rid of illegal aliens and all of these things. | ||
| It would create all kinds of enforcement mechanisms. | ||
| It would be a real first step in the direction of getting rid of illegal aliens | ||
| who have the ability to vote in our election, something as absurd as that. | ||
| So what they're doing here is trying to tie that to the government funding bill. | ||
| And again, this is a government funding bill that's always bipartisan, that funds the regulatory state, the deep state, and all the woke stuff the government's going on. | ||
| So the insistence that the SAVE Act is there is at least one actual conservative win attached to a bill that otherwise is just funding more of the deep, woke state. | ||
| Okay, so you think it's performative. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| We'll follow the fight. | ||
| It leads me on to something which I've said on previous occasions, that fundamentally, it's not really the election, the presidential election or the two yearly elections to Congress or to the Senate that are important. | ||
| it's the primaries that are far more important, really, because otherwise you're just going to | ||
| end up voting for people who will turn around and betray you to your face, which is exactly, | ||
| I think, what we're going to see on the debate regarding the SAVE Act. | ||
| OK, and the jobs report that came out today, great news for the administration or not so great? | ||
| Oh, I think a terrible news for the administration. | ||
| And, you know, it's yet one more of these distractions, I think, the way you're talking about, where Congress wants us to look at some shiny object and miss what they've been doing to us. | ||
| So, you know, what's in this jobs report? | ||
| Lackluster job growth. | ||
| A loss of 24,000 manufacturing jobs. | ||
| That's a canary in the mineshaft. | ||
| And then a lot of the growth, it comes from industries that are directly subsidized by the government. | ||
| Or, hello, it's government job growth on the backs of more printed money, which means more inflation in the future. | ||
| But I'll tell you the other things going on in that jobs report. | ||
| Is yet another string of revisions down of previous month's job growth. | ||
| In fact, this new report has 86,000 jobs that were supposedly created in June and July revised as having not been created. | ||
| So those jobs reports that were barely holding on to growth really were below what you'd need to maintain the labor force. | ||
| And when are we getting that? | ||
| Two months after the fact, in a buried footnote at the bottom of this jobs report. | ||
| So it's more of the same. | ||
| An administration that puts out false job report numbers that it then revises down in months afterward. | ||
| Can't make this stuff up. | ||
| No, it's not really going to be petrol on the droid bonfire this time around. | ||
| It's not the reality that people are feeling. | ||
| Rich Jern, Heritage Foundation, thanks very much for joining us on the show today. | ||
| Always a pleasure. | ||
| Thanks, Rich. | ||
| Jarlan, The Guardian has an article today saying that conspiracy theorists of the world can rip off your tinfoil hats and take a bow. | ||
| You were kind of right. | ||
| This, I think, will be of interest to anyone with a smartphone. | ||
| There's been a lot of suspicion, talk, that smartphones were listening to us. | ||
| And apparently it's the case. | ||
| This active listening software actually does exist. | ||
| Tell us a little bit about that, if you would. | ||
| And good afternoon. | ||
| Good afternoon, Ben. | ||
| How are you? | ||
| Yes, the story was broken by 404 Media. | ||
| The company in question is the Cox Media Group. | ||
| They have a number of radio stations, television stations. | ||
| They also do a lot of advertising. | ||
| 404 acquired a slide deck from November of 2023 in which the presenter was bragging about their active listening program. | ||
| What active listening is, you have Obviously, sensors all over your home if you are a trusting consumer. | ||
| That would include your smartphone, your smart TV, your Alexa, any kind of smart device. | ||
| And these have microphones. | ||
| And the microphones are picking up everything that you are saying. | ||
| Now, with the advent of more and more sophisticated artificial intelligence with natural language processing, it's very easy for those microphones to kind of make sense of what you're saying, right, through the AI. | ||
| And so in the slide deck for their active listening program, Basically, they're saying that they're using your day-to-day conversations they're eavesdropping on to give you better and better advertising. | ||
| This has been known for a long time. | ||
| People have oftentimes complained or freaked out because they say something and then an ad pops up about what they're saying. | ||
| Well, Cox Media Group has shown or it has, you know, basically tipped their hand They are doing that and some of their contractors are people like Meta or Facebook, Google, Amazon, Bing. | ||
| So far the reps from Meta and from Google have denied that they're using active listening Joe, tell me something here on a practicality basis. | ||
| also denied it. | ||
| They've in fact removed, or I think it was actually Google, removed Cox Media from their | ||
| list of partners. | ||
| But I think that these are also probably best to be interpreted as them covering their tails. | ||
| Joe, tell me something here on a practicality basis. | ||
| As you mentioned, the platforms have viscously denied us, and of course they would do. | ||
| How does this kind of revelation could cost the industry, the social media platform industry, | ||
| billions of dollars in advertising, right? | ||
| It's a big thing, this, if true. | ||
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You know, I don't think so. | |
| Well, my question was, how did this or tell me why, because my question was, how did a revelation as How did a revelation as important as this end up in an obscure company's PowerPoint presentation? | ||
| How come they didn't guard it more closely? | ||
| But tell me why, Mo. | ||
| Well, from the very beginning, I mean, from the Patriot Act tinfoil hat people have been proven right that the | ||
| government has every intention of scraping over as many communications as possible to look | ||
| for dissent. | ||
| This has been known forever and people still use all of these different platforms. | ||
| We use these platforms. | ||
| So I think that the chances of people seeing this and understanding this actually impacting | ||
| on a broad level people's use of these platforms. | ||
| I just don't see it. | ||
| I think that people are in essence addicted to the convenience. | ||
| They are kind of herded into a position where they need this. | ||
| So that's why. | ||
| But surely there's a difference surely between the government spying on us. | ||
| And Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg spying on us, right? | ||
| I'll tell you what, if the two minutes video, if time permits, I'll give you a good indication of where these companies are coming from. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| Let's run it. | ||
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is to uplevel the quality of Copilot. | |
| And so we're rapidly building some of the best models in the world, partnering very closely with OpenAI, building on top of all of OpenAI models and infrastructure, fine-tuning their models. | ||
| And the next phase is that we're really going to start focusing on memory, I mean, your AI should remember everything about you, all your context, all your personal data, everything that you've said, and be there to support you and be your aid and your sidekick throughout your life. | ||
| So that's what we're going to be focused on next. | ||
| People have often said that an AI subsumes all other interfaces and surfaces, and I think that probably overstates it, but it's the right direction. | ||
| You know, I think there will come a time in a few years when the first thing you think is you just say, hey, Copilot, can you take care of this for me? | ||
| What's the answer to that? | ||
| Where do I find it? | ||
| Can you book this? | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| Buy this? | ||
| Do that? | ||
| You're just going to have this ever-present aid in your life. | ||
| It's going to change what it means to use a keyboard. | ||
| It's going to change what it feels like to have apps. | ||
| It'll move us way beyond the search engine and the browser. | ||
| And you're certainly not going to think, I need to go write a document or send a message | ||
| in a traditional way. | ||
| You'll still have those things. | ||
| But your AI will just manage a canvas of activity across your entire life and largely | ||
| be coordinating with other AIs and other services and collecting information for you. | ||
| I think it's important to design human-compatible systems, but I think it is a mistake to assume | ||
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that they are human-like in their thinking or capabilities or limitations, even though we sort of train them off of, | |
| we do this behavioral cloning off of all of this human text data. | ||
| They clearly can do extremely superhuman things already and then very, very not human things later. | ||
| So I always try to like think of it as an alien intelligence and not try to project my anthropomorphic biases onto it. | ||
| With regard to the first guy, you're not really ever going to find a true James Bond type villain unless they've got an English accent. | ||
| Look, in the minute that you have left, Joe, what can consumers do, especially folk like me that have iPhones, supposedly the big smartphone provider, that genuinely, sincerely values the privacy of its customers? | ||
| What can we push for on the market from smartphone manufacturers? | ||
| So that first gentleman was Mustafa Suleyman. | ||
| He is an exec at Microsoft, and of course the second is Sam Altman from OpenAI. | ||
| Microsoft has now rolled out Recall, which takes screenshots of everything on your Windows platform and is intended to basically monitor everything that you do. | ||
| You can turn it off, but it's always there, so on and so forth. | ||
| What you can do is use other products. | ||
| You can use Linux For instance, for your operating system. | ||
| You can use Brave Browser for your browser. | ||
| You can use ProtonMail for the end-to-end encrypted messaging. | ||
| You can use Signal for end-to-end encrypted messaging. | ||
| You've got Eric Prince's phone coming out. | ||
| We'll see how that looks once it's here. | ||
| And then, of course, you can use a VPN, a virtual private network. | ||
| Use all of these methods, all the software, in order to kind of conceal what you're doing. | ||
| Because as you know, in the UK, and more and more our own Justice Department, are not simply looking at people's actions in order to identify potential dissent and criminalize people. | ||
| They're looking at their speech. | ||
| And so as we move into an era where surveillance is normalized, I think it's going to be for the best that people do everything possible to cloak themselves. | ||
| Joe, that's fantastic. | ||
| Sadly, we don't have any time left, but come back on the show and give us an update on what the Lizard Boys are working on next. | ||
| In the meantime, where do people go to keep up with your splendid writing? | ||
| I have one of your articles in front of me on my iPad right now. | ||
| Where do they go? | ||
| Thank you very much, Ben. | ||
| You go to joebot.xyz. | ||
| Every Monday, an article up. | ||
| Every Thursday, the Omega Point podcast just posted last night. | ||
| You'll find a lot of in-depth information there. | ||
| So joebot.xyz. | ||
| J-O-E-B-O-T.X-Y-Z. | ||
| Thank you very much, Ben. | ||
| Joanna, thank you very much. | ||
| Free Steve Bannon. | ||
| Free Steve Bannon, indeed. | ||
| So the final few moments of this show, final five minutes, Peter McElvenna. | ||
| Good evening to you, as opposed to good afternoon, because we're on the same time zone here. | ||
| The Lord Chancellor, UK Lord Chancellor Shabana Mahmood announced That as part of this early release system, and this is from the ITV News website, by the way, it's one of national television stations in the UK, that police could even have to stop carrying out arrests in a worst case scenario, possibly leading to looting and the collapse of law and order. | ||
| That's a direct quote here from ITV. | ||
| What's going on in my beloved homeland, the Third World Banana Republic, formerly known as Great Britain? | ||
| Formerly known as Great Britain, Ben, you've hit it on the spot. | ||
| This system is releasing, it's going to be Tuesday, this upcoming Tuesday, so only days away. | ||
| Supposedly up to 5,000 prisoners are just going to be released after serving a proportion of their time away. | ||
| We're told it will not be dangerous criminals. | ||
| But actually, whistleblowers have said, actually, there will be those who are serving time for sex crimes. | ||
| Actually, they will also be eligible to release. | ||
| And why is this happening? | ||
| It's because 10 days ago, there were 100 places left in British prisons, 100 places. | ||
| Now, we have 88,000 prisoners in the UK. | ||
| Much smaller than the US. | ||
| I know you've got close to a million. | ||
| So proportionally, you've got double the amount in the States that we have in the UK. | ||
| But why has this happened? | ||
| Because the government are intent on jailing those who participated or who tweeted or who were bystanders in the riots that happened in regards to mass immigration, in regard to the three girls that got stabbed to death. | ||
| And an outpouring of anger. | ||
| Today, there have been a number of court cases happening. | ||
| We have had an 81-year-old man who has been charged with inciting some kind of violence. | ||
| He was walking past. | ||
| We've had another person jailed for nine years. | ||
| Nine years, he set fire to a bin. | ||
| outside a migration centre. | ||
| He's been jailed for nine years. | ||
| Ben, we have those who engage in child rape being away and released after four and a half years. | ||
| So setting fire to a bin outside a migration centre is twice as bad as child rape. | ||
| That's where we are in the UK is frightening. | ||
| And the same thing will come to the US. | ||
| This is not just a UK problem. | ||
| The same thing will come to the US where these type of crimes, everything changes and people must be released to make room for all those on the right, all the common sense people, all the people concerned about immigration. | ||
| They must be locked away from society. | ||
| Peter, in the recent general election in the UK, did Sir Keir Starling stand on election, threatening to throw people in jail on the basis of their thought crimes? | ||
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I didn't see that in the manifesto. | |
| I missed it as well, Ben. | ||
| It was not in there. | ||
| Now, Keir Stormer obviously got elected on only a vote share of 20% of those who could vote voted for Keir Stormer. | ||
| So we have got a far left government with a huge majority, the biggest majority since the Second World War and probably before that. | ||
| We have got that far left government woke on steroids in the UK because of 20% of those who could vote went out to vote. | ||
| They chose the bankruptcy of our electoral system. | ||
| This was not on the ballot box. | ||
| But when you have a government that have a majority of 200 odd, I mean, they've got 400 and something in Parliament. | ||
| It becomes irrelevant, because it's so big. | ||
| There's no opposition. | ||
| The so-called Conservative Party, they're in the middle of an election to try and pick a new leader to follow on from all the other failed leaders they've had. | ||
| It's a dire situation with no one. | ||
| Actually, Elon Musk is the opposition to the government in the UK. | ||
| Peter, 30 seconds. | ||
| Tell me about Svoboda, who have you got coming up next on your superb podcast? | ||
| We had Robert Malone last night. | ||
| We've got Anna's book. | ||
| We've got David Vance coming up on Friday, on Saturday. | ||
| Last week we had Sabine Howard looking at that memorial which is coming up in DC, which is going to be unveiled on this coming, next weekend. | ||
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