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Episode 3791: Biden Administration's Failures On National Security
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War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
peter navarro
Peter K. Navarro in for Stephen K. Bannon today.
And in this hour, we're going to be talking with two of the most important Communist China strategists and scholars in the world, Brad Thayer and Jim Fennell.
I was blessed to have them do a chapter in the new book New MAGA Deal at NewMAGADeal.com and I've known these guys for a very long time.
Brad's quite prolific.
You see his articles everywhere.
Jim is Fascinating guy.
He was a PACCOM commander back in the day.
I think it was during the Obama administration where he got reassigned, let us say, for being too tough on Communist China.
unidentified
But here's the thing.
peter navarro
The border now is one of the most important issues.
Existential threat.
To this country, the economy is.
And all these issues across the years always seem to push out what's the greatest existential threat to this country, which is Communist China.
We have a situation now where Communist China is putting tremendous pressure on the Philippines, trying to seize territory in what it regards to be a China lake.
There's these These land formations that pop out of the sea there, that's ugly.
The communist Chinese are buzzing Taiwan from the Taiwan Straits every other day.
They're harassing Japan and their airspaces and stuff like that.
And we got a president who brags about having met with Xi Jinping more than any other world later.
Xi Jinping Basically calls Joe Biden his poodle because he's always at his side.
You know, he's got the kid hunter where he gives money to and they do all that dealing.
We know all about that.
My point is that we've taken our eye off the ball repeatedly on Communist China.
They continue to have their way with us here in the U.S., but they're creating all sorts of havoc.
So, Brad Thayer, welcome.
What's your latest take on China's move in the South China Sea?
bradley thayer
Well, Peter, it's great to join you in the audience and to be here with you in person.
And I'm sure the audience joins me in wishing you the best and recognizing what you've done, obviously, for everyone in recent months.
Well, what's going on is that China is a hyper-aggressive state under Xi Jinping, and their aggression is all asthma.
It's against India, it's against their own people, whether it's the genocide against the Uyghurs or the crushing of the Tibetan, People, religious freedom and human rights.
It's the show of force against Taiwan, where they consistently do salami tactics, preparing for an invasion against... Salami tactics being what?
Small steps.
Half steps, but consistently.
So that, just like cutting up a salami, they're not taking the bite whole, but they're going to just do it gradually.
but they're changing the status quo, as they are in the Philippines,
where they're putting enormous pressure on our treaty ally, Manila.
peter navarro
Is this about Scarborough Shoal, or is it about another land feature?
What are they going after there now?
bradley thayer
Well, sadly, Peter, there are several points of flashpoints, but the second, Thomas Shoal,
where the Philippines has the Sierra Madre, a former U.S. Navy LST, which is beached there permanently.
the Filipino effort to sustain their sovereignty.
And the Chinese are doing everything that they can to evict the Filipinos from that.
Again, they're a treaty ally.
So, what China's doing to the Philippines, they're adversely affecting our interests directly.
peter navarro
What's the one that they have the biggest airport on now?
I forget the name of it, you know what I'm saying?
bradley thayer
In the South China Sea, right, where they have several airports.
peter navarro
It's the one they took from Vietnam and Nixon gave them to in the World War.
bradley thayer
in the Paracels in 74 where they invaded and took that from South Vietnam.
peter navarro
Do you remember the name of that one?
bradley thayer
The Atoll, there's the greater Paracels and there was the lesser one.
peter navarro
So just to give you all context, it's like why the hell should we care about a speck
of land in the middle of the South China Sea?
I mean, literally, it's a speck of land.
It's about as big as Reagan National Airport footprint is, only for the runway.
Okay?
That's it.
Okay?
So...
I guess the reason we care is that the South China Sea is the place where about, if I'm not wrong, 70% of world commercial traffic goes through.
They have to get through there.
So you go back to the days of the famous guy, A teacher in America who the Chinese emulated.
bradley thayer
Well, they did so many.
peter navarro
The doctrine of... Do you remember what I'm talking about?
I'm throwing hard ones at you.
Anyway, the point is that the rule was whoever commands the sea... Oh, Mahan!
Mahan was a famous figure in American Navy strategy and he basically said whoever controls the sea lines of communication Controls the world and that was the basis for us becoming a naval power and projecting and China Communist China kind of signed on to the Mahanian view Decades ago.
That's why they're building all their Navy and this thing like that and it's a very real concern that if we can't Push our exports for example through the South China Sea and moving around the world to other countries Then they will be able to choke us off.
So The reason why these little tiny atolls are important is they put like 15,000 foot runways on them that can basically entertain the largest types of aircraft in the world.
They put up sensitive listening posts and they put up all sorts of rockets that they can shoot at whoever they want to shoot at.
So when the Philippines is engaged with Communist China trying to hang on to one of these atolls, the subtext there is that never mind also the fishing rights which China is trying to claim around there.
So How's this end?
I mean, are we going to support the Philippines?
Should we support the Philippines?
bradley thayer
Absolutely, we should support the Philippines.
Well, Biden knew that.
I'm very reluctant.
I don't think he will.
He's not doing it.
He hasn't done it consistently.
unidentified
Does Kamala know where the Philippines are?
bradley thayer
Your guess is as good as mine.
peter navarro
They're right next to Ukraine, right?
Is that in Kamala's world?
bradley thayer
But this is the South China Sea.
It's also the bomber exercises that they sent.
The Russians and the Chinese conducted a joint exercise in the Alaskan ADIZ, for example, very recently.
So they're pushing hard against us, against our allies, against partners like Taiwan and India, but also the United States itself immediately and directly.
This is a hyper-aggressive state, and they're not going to stop until they're met with strength, until the U.S., working with its key allies, tell them, no, we're not going to do this and start rolling them back in the South China Sea.
peter navarro
Hey, Japan!
Have they stepped in at all on this?
Are they working with the Philippines?
bradley thayer
They have.
And they've come at us many times asking for a lot more help.
peter navarro
Are they helping the Philippines?
bradley thayer
Yes, they are helping the Philippines.
And they're helping Taiwan to the extent that they can.
But they're looking for U.S.
leadership.
The Japanese are great allies and can do a lot in many different ways, as can the Indians, as can the Australians, and so many other partners as well.
peter navarro
We went through a period with the Philippines where one of their leaders Kind of sucked up to Communist China and there were some issues about us being using any of their facilities for our naval fleets.
Can you give us a little history on that and how that changed and who the players were?
bradley thayer
Sure, we've had a complicated history with the Philippines, but by and large the Filipinos have been very good allies for us in the Cold War.
For example, sending troops to South Vietnam is part of our efforts in Vietnam.
And then in the wake of the end of the Cold War, of course, the US left the Philippines and we've had a rockier relationship.
Under Duterte, for example, but we had an individual who was far more accommodating of the CCP's ambitions.
peter navarro
Is he gone now?
Or has he changed his mind?
bradley thayer
I hope that he gets his mind straight on the CCP threat.
But we have a very good partner and key ally in the Philippines now who are asking us for help.
Yes, right now, Peter, this is going on right here, right now.
The Chinese are changing the status quo.
They see the sea as territory, as land that they can seize, and they can force other countries out of it.
And they're doing that right now, and the Filipinos are asking for our help.
They're asking for and looking for the United States to take overt measures to help, for example, with replenishment of the Sierra Madre.
peter navarro
Did Duterte, did he let Chinese or Russian vessels into Cam Ranh Bay?
bradley thayer
In Vietnam, yeah.
peter navarro
No, no.
In the Philippines, what was the big naval base we had in the Philippines?
bradley thayer
Oh, we had, in Manila Bay.
peter navarro
Manila Bay.
bradley thayer
We have, of course, a huge... Did Duterte let... In Park Air Force Base.
peter navarro
Did Duterte let the Russians and Chinese ships in there?
bradley thayer
Well, they have visited, of course.
I mean, it's part of signals and part of his warming of the relationship, obviously, with the CCP.
But, look, You've got to stand with your allies, otherwise you're not going to have your allies, right?
They're going to go neutral or they're going to start jumping over to the CCP side.
So these are the steps that need to be taken right now with respect to standing with allies.
Tokyo, in the Philippines, absolutely.
And the allies have been asking us to do more and the Biden administration simply has failed them.
And that's a continuation of the Obama policy where Kurt Campbell at Scarborough Shoal, for example, in 2012 sold out the Filipinos.
peter navarro
He was Hillary Clinton's major advisor, right?
bradley thayer
He was, yes.
In the State Department.
And this is an individual who really has got the Midas touch in reverse when it comes to our allies and partners.
Everything he touches turns to Yeah.
Right.
So, you know, allies are looking for us, for leadership that we have provided.
The Biden administration's not providing it at all, and the Harris administration certainly wouldn't either.
peter navarro
Do you think they're testing?
Do you think Communist China is purposely testing Biden right now?
They are.
And do you think they'll, with Kamala being a candidate, do you think they'll test her even more now?
bradley thayer
Absolutely.
Things are heating up.
We're moving on.
You know, they have made a decision.
Xi Jinping certainly has made a decision to push the Biden administration now that he's a lame duck.
And they're actively and pushing hard on that.
Taiwan, the Philippines, the Japanese... If Trump gets in there, it's going to be... It's going to be reversed, right?
He's not going to get... The free ride is over for Xi Jinping.
And his aggression is going to be met with strength.
peter navarro
When we come back from the break, we're going to bring Jim Fennell in, all the way from Switzerland, through the miracle of Skype.
And that's going to be really interesting.
Jim and I go way back.
He's one of the most impressive individuals on this issue.
I'm Peter K. Navarro in for Stephen K. Bannon.
In the War Room, we will be right back.
unidentified
We will fight till they're all gone.
We rejoice when there's no more.
Let's take down the CCP.
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
peter navarro
Hey, Peter K. Navarro in for Stephen K. Bannon.
We've got, well, I guess my two favorite communist Chinese strategists and scholars, Brad Thayer, Jim Finnell.
They were kind enough to do a chapter for my new book, New Magadheel, newmagadheel.com.
But I want to also make you aware of their book. Title is a little bit
interesting, Embracing Communist China. It sounds like the philosophy of the Joe Biden administration,
but then you got to look at the subtitle, Embracing Communist China, America's Greatest
Strategic Failure. And you certainly have that right.
So check that one out.
It's Actually, who's the guy that write the forward forward by Stephen K Bannon interesting the war room Imprint so you got it.
So Let's hop across the pond as it were climb a little mountain and bring in Jim Finnell who Back in 2016, I was hoping I was going to be the ambassador to Thailand to give the communist Chinese conniption fits in the first Trump administration, but somehow we weren't able to pull that off.
But Jim is an important historical figure.
He was really the first, one of the first, to sound the alarm at PACOM based in Hawaii.
Well, first of all, Peter, it's great to see you.
Great to be with Brad as well.
even mentioning it, but Jim, welcome.
What are your thoughts on the latest communist Chinese shenanigans,
and how do you think it plays into the political and geopolitical landscape with this election going on, sir?
unidentified
Well, first of all, Peter, it's great to see you.
jim fanell
Great to be with Brad as well.
I just want to put this up.
I don't know if people can see it, but that's a letter that we wrote for you back in May.
You were in prison.
It was returned to us too much later.
peter navarro
I'm sure it came back to you, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
It did.
peter navarro
But more than half of the letters that were sent to me got sent back for various reasons, and it is what it is.
That's why they call it prison, my brother.
unidentified
Roger that.
jim fanell
We're glad to see you're out.
Regarding the questions you asked, we're watching a lot of pressure from the PRC across the region.
And right now, there's a big event going on down in the South China Sea as China continues to essentially beat up our treaty ally, the Philippines, as they try to resupply, as Brad mentioned, the grounded ship, the Sierra Madre, that's been there for 25 years.
And the Chinese are now putting out in the press this week that they have an agreement with the Philippines that allows the Philippines to request their permission to be able to resupply their 10 sailors that are on board that old rusted-out ship, which is an expression of the Philippines' sovereignty over territory that's inside their exclusive economic zone.
That's just one area.
The Chinese are pressing the Japanese and the Senkakus.
The Chinese have sent Bombers with the Russians up into the air defense identification zone of Alaska.
They've had warships just in the last month up in the Gulf of Alaska as well operating, which is ironic because the Chinese say that you cannot operate in the South China Sea inside what they claim is their EEZ and their territorial waters without their permission, yet they were sending their warships into ours.
It's legal under international law, but it just shows the duplicity of how the Chinese operate.
They've had a major exercise going on in Belarus and on the border of Poland, a satellite nation of Russia.
They've got right now essentially an expeditionary strike group operating on the east coast of Africa and Tanzania.
Tanzania, and then they've got ships that have been operating in the Gulf of Guinea.
They're sending up a ship to the Russian Navy fleet review that will happen here
this month up in St. Petersburg. So the Chinese military and the Chinese Navy are global.
We've had, as our book says and that you briefly discussed, we've had a national security community
for up until you and the Trump team were in office that basically said, oh, don't pay attention.
That's not a problem.
It's not a threat and Now we're facing the results of that bad advice over 40 years of bad advice and we're behind the power curve in terms of our ability to To be able to meet these challenges.
And so one of the things that I always admired about you and what I hope gets back into the White House is this focus on we have to rebuild the arsenal of America.
We have to rebuild our Navy.
We have to rebuild our Air Force.
We don't want to have conflict.
We're not asking for endless war, but we are in a great power conflict.
It's not a pacing threat.
It's not some kind of You know, competition today, cooperation tomorrow.
No, we are in an existential threat with a regime, the Chinese Communist Party, that's devoted themselves to the destruction of the United States of America.
And we're not prepared.
And so one of the things we can do is to bring back jobs to America.
We can start building ships, all kinds of ships, the ships that we need, the big ships that have Lots of crews and lots of people, but we can also build unmanned ships.
We can build submarines.
We can build unmanned submarines.
But our infrastructure is really in dire straits right now, and we need to get back to this, and we need to do it yesterday.
And that's why this election is so important, because What we saw during the eight years of the Obama administration and the four years of the Biden administration is essentially a salami-slicing deconstruction of the U.S.
Department of Defense, whether it's the size of the U.S.
Navy.
As I've told audiences around the world that, you know, when I joined the Navy in 1986 at the height of the Reagan buildup, we had 600 ships in our Navy, just about 600.
And when I retired in 2015, we had less than 300.
We have less than 300 today.
So the size of the U.S.
Navy was cut in half in a 30-year period, while the Chinese Navy went from being a know-nothing navy, a knee-water navy, coastal water, brown water, to now being one of the largest, is the largest navy in the world.
And so that's, you know, those lines cross like that.
We're not prepared, and we need to get prepared, and we need an administration that's going to reverse The demise of the U.S.
military and is also going to get rid of these destructive policies like DEI.
I don't know if you've seen some of the videos coming out of Navy recruiting and other service recruiting centers, but we have a problem with our force today.
We're incorporating people in there that would have never been accepted into the service before because we've lowered our standards.
And because we've rejected and we've told people that normally would have been patriotic Americans, they've been told, you shouldn't serve.
We don't want you in the service.
So we got a lot of problems and we need to get somebody in like President Trump and Vice President Vance.
We're going to reverse this trend and get us back on the right track.
peter navarro
Jim, you flagged all sorts of flashpoints around the globe.
What's the U.S.
Navy and military doing as China is engaged in its aggression?
jim fanell
Well, we have the 7th Fleet in terms of the naval force.
We have a joint force that's out there in the western Pacific.
And they're essentially the same force levels that when I was in 10 years ago, and we're out throughout my career.
So we have basically maintained the status quo in terms of force presence, while China's force presence and posture have grown.
unidentified
So what happens because of that is... Let me say this, Jim, hang on.
peter navarro
So, for example, when Clinton was in office and the Chinese made a run at Taiwan, Clinton sent aircraft carriers through the straits and backed them off.
Right now we've got the Philippines under siege.
Are American ships purposely staying away?
Are they coming into the area to show solidarity?
What are they doing?
What should they be doing?
jim fanell
That's a great example.
Back in 96, we were able to send in carriers and demonstrate power and resolve and China back down.
Now we're in a much different situation just in the Second Thomas Shoal issue.
And we have sent carrier strike groups into the South China Sea, but they don't get near this area.
Our ships are not sailing side by side at Second Thomas Shoal with the Filipinos and helping them conduct the resupply operations.
Could you parachute?
even offering to help them build up a platform around that grounded warship so that they
don't have to worry about it rusting out and falling apart.
So we have been very passive.
I don't think it's the people that are...
peter navarro
Could you parachute...
Jim, could you parachute supplies onto that atoll?
jim fanell
Yeah, it's called vertical replenishment.
So our destroyers, our warships, an amphibious warship, a helicopter warship, or an aircraft carrier could go sit down there.
We could take supplies and pallets of food, water, building materials, and we could vert-rep that onto that grounded ship and supply those Filipino sailors.
And there's no risk right now.
peter navarro
We're not doing that.
jim fanell
We're not doing it because the administration said not to do it.
unidentified
And we know that the Filipinos would have appreciated that.
peter navarro
We're essentially providing the Philippines with no support.
jim fanell
But they're afraid to ask it because they get accused of being provocative.
So they're caught in a catch-22.
If President Marcos comes out and says, I want the U.S.
7th Fleet to resupply my ship, The US administration would call him onto the carpet and say, don't you say that, that's provocative.
So he won't say it in public, just like our other allies in Asia won't say anything.
I watched, now it's like nine years ago, I watched somebody ask the Japanese chief of Navy, hey, would you mind if the Chinese were invited to RIMPAC?
And he knew full well when he asked that question to the Japanese admiral that the Japanese admiral would demur and not say anything because that's the way they, you know, they're very polite and they're not going to make an issue because they're the junior partner in this relationship.
So we know that we have it over our allies to form and shape them into not asking for things that don't provoke China.
So that's been our policy. Do not provoke China. And that's got to end. We're not provoking China
when we help our ally. We're not provoking China when we provide food and water to sailors that
unidentified
are on board a ship that doesn't even have any weapons.
Okay. This is outrageous.
peter navarro
I want to thank Jim Finnell, Brad Thayer for coming in.
Embracing Communist China.
It's not my favorite part of it.
It's America's greatest strategic failure.
Gentlemen, thank you for coming in.
Thanks for contributing to the newmagadeal.com as well.
Peter Navarro will be right back.
Do you agree today?
unidentified
That you were wrong to oppose busing in America then.
Do you agree?
peter navarro
I did not oppose busing in America.
unidentified
What I opposed is busing ordered by the Department of Education.
bradley thayer
That's what I opposed.
unidentified
Well, there was a failure of states to integrate public schools in America.
I was part of the second class to integrate Berkeley, California public schools almost two decades after Brown v. Board of Education.
peter navarro
Because your city council made that decision.
unidentified
It was a local decision.
So that's where the federal government must step in.
That's why we have the Voting Rights Act and the Civil Rights Act.
That's why we need to pass the Equality Act.
That's why we need to pass the ERA.
Because there are moments in history where states fail to preserve the civil rights of all people.
bradley thayer
I have supported the ERA from the very beginning.
unidentified
Vice President Biden, 30 seconds, because I want to bring other people into this.
bradley thayer
I have supported the ERA from the very beginning.
peter navarro
Yeah.
Let's not underestimate Kamala Harris.
She had her 15 seconds of fame there.
It was a brutal takedown of Joe Biden.
And even though she did not emerge as the front runner in that primary election after that takedown, She's a dangerous little viper there.
You can see that.
And let's remember how the Democrats roll.
Bernie.
Bernie.
Bernie was the guy leading in the polls.
And he should have been the nominee that year.
You listening, Bernie bros?
Gotta come home to Trump here.
What they did to Bernie was clinical.
They got him on one comment, they took him out, Biden gets James Clyburn to back him, he wins South Carolina, a couple other primaries, and just like that, boom.
Biden becomes the nominee.
And that clip you just saw, Harris, that was part of the whole scenario.
Because she would then be the running mate.
This election can go one of two ways.
And we need to look at history to understand that.
2012.
Obama is on the ropes.
you Mitt Romney is the nominee.
He's trying to run on the platform, at least with respect to the globalization of our economy and the loss of our jobs to Communist China.
Mitt was like the first guy to try to run on that.
And it looked like he was doing pretty well.
But then along came the tar baby.
You know what it was.
It was the social issues.
It was race.
It was abortion.
Diverted attention away from the economy.
Mitt was hapless enough that he couldn't fight that tide.
And you always got to remember that whatever the Democrats want to do, they're going to have an echo chamber in the corporate media.
It's not just CNN and MSNBC and New York Times and the Washington Post.
Those are essentially full-time, third-party employees of the Democrat Party.
Their job is to do the spin.
But it's also true that the ABC networks, ABC, CBS, NBC and PBS, Do the same kind of spin doctoring for the Democrat Party.
They just do it with a little bit more subtlety.
I mean, the difference between what Good Morning America and The Today Show Do in terms of the Trump bashing and the Democrats spin is only different in degree from CNN and MSNBC.
I mean, you can think of CNN and MS.
What do they love?
DNC, I guess.
They're like, they're like bludgeons, whereas ABC, CBS, NBC are more like scalpels, right?
They do it with a smile on their face.
PBS is somewhere in between.
And my point is that if you look at at what Americans are telling us they want In their next president and their next administration, and I think it's important to think bigger, as Mike Davis reminded us earlier in the show, think bigger in terms of an administration and a Congress, right?
What the American people want, there's two competing visions here, and we have a vision With Donald Trump, where we have a stable economy with substantial growth, low inflation.
We have a secure border so that illegal immigrants aren't flooding into our labor markets, driving down real wages, and taking jobs of black, brown, and blue-collar Americans.
We have A world in Trump's America where Communist China, Imperial Russia, Rocket Man in North Korea, the mullahs of Iran fear and respect Donald Trump, they leave us and the rest of the world alone.
We have a world in Donald Trump's America where crime Is lower, particularly in our major cities, and people who wear the uniform, whether it's the police officers or down on the border among ICE and CBP, are respected.
Trump's America, we have a justice system which focuses on justice rather than putting Political rivals in prison are preventing them from running for president.
And in Trump's America, we have a world where you don't let transgender athletes destroy women's sports.
You don't cut off the genitals of young boys.
You don't indoctrinate or groom our K-12 children.
That's Trump's America, right?
And if we We focus on that as a posse and in the political campaigns of Donald Trump and J.D.
Vance, the polls tell us that we'll win overwhelmingly.
The problem is that the other side is going to do everything they can to define the campaign On their terms, and they're going to have all the help they can from the corporate media.
CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS.
And you know what they're going to do.
The top of the list is going to be abortion, abortion, abortion.
You're going to have the obligatory orange man bad, orange man dictator, orange man tweet that are distasteful, orange man, orange man bad.
And then with, uh, you say Kamala, I say Kamala.
Uh, you have, um, all the gender and diversity issues.
That come into play.
And just like in the 2012 Obama-Romney election, and just like in the 2022 congressional election where the red tide never emerged, to the extent that the Democrats can define this election On their terms.
Make it a social issue campaign.
Make it a diversity and gender issue campaign.
Make it a hate campaign against Donald Trump.
They're gonna win!
We win if it's policy that the voters care about.
They win if it's policies that they're able to distract the voters from the policies That they care about.
It's quite a feat that they're able to do, but it's pretty easy when all of the corporate media are on their side echoing the talking points of the Democrats.
I propose a new drinking game.
Every time you hear a commentator on CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC say convicted felon versus prosecutor.
You take a big swig of Napa Valley wine from Californication land.
Okay?
I suspect this nation will be drunk by Labor Day.
If you do that.
I was watching, and I learned this from Steve Bannon, but Know Thy Enemy is a good admonition as well.
It's like why Steve always has the other side's stuff in the cold open.
You learn more.
You learn a lot more watching and listening to their corporate media.
Then to tuning into something like Fox News, which I mean, I can't watch Fox anymore because it's so predictable and they fall.
They constantly are falling into the trap in their predictability.
I mean, there was like they went off on this rant about how Biden should step down.
And let Kamala be president because Biden wasn't fit.
I mean, strategically, that's that's like the flat out dumb, flat out dumbest thing you could possibly do.
You elevate Kamala Harris to president.
For the final stretch run and give her, I mean, at the margin.
That's some votes.
Why would you advocate that?
So my point is that This has to be a policy election if we're going to win it.
We win it on the economy.
Look, people in their America are forced with a choice, food on the table, medicine in the cabinet, and a roof over their heads.
I mean, it's as simple as that.
You could simply run on the economy.
I don't know.
I don't know if we're going to be able to do that, given what we're up against, unless we have just incredible discipline between now and election day in terms of our messaging.
So we have a fight on our hands.
I'll talk a little bit more about that as we wrap up coming out in the last segment, always the greatest segment of the day, the D-Block, the almighty D-Block.
We hand over to Charlie Kirk, and I'm Peter Kay Navarro, in for Stephen K. Bannon, in the War Room.
Just win, baby.
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peter navarro
Hey, Peter K. Navarro, in for Stephen K. Bannon.
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Got a few minutes here.
I want to talk a little bit about J.D.
Vance and how I think He helps the ticket and and how I Would gently suggest that he conducts his campaign the Thing about JD.
I've never met him, but I feel like we're two sides of the same coin where back in the early 2000s after China communist China joined the World Trade Organization and I started noticing, as a macroeconomist, how there were fissures in the U.S.
economy.
It was beginning to falter as we were losing jobs, our manufacturing jobs.
And over time, as that cascaded, you saw much of the Rust Belt suffer.
Just this incredible wave of destruction where factories would leave.
My first book, The coming China wars in 06 and then death by China in 2011 documented all of that and particularly how the people in those communities, black, brown and blue collar workers, were so devastated.
But I was up at 30,000 feet as an economist.
I'm looking down at Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, across the Rust Belt, and all I could see was specks Specs, these people, I couldn't, I didn't have a sense of the humanity, but one of those specs was JD Vance.
Another was his mother and father.
More of those specks was the community he lived in that was being destroyed.
And he was experiencing at the front lines what I was seeing at 30,000 feet, and what Donald Trump was seeing well before either one of us, based on the first rendition of offshoring, which was Japan.
I think that of the VP candidates, J.D.
Vance gives us the best shot of winning the election because to win the election, we have to have Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and other manufacturing states that come into play First one coming to mind is North Carolina, which because of changing demographics, we won that last time.
We're going to need to hang on to it this time.
But that state, I mean, the Chinese, just the devastation in North Carolina, the furniture industry alone.
So what I think JD Vance could best do Was think of himself as running for governor, rather than vice president, and running for governor in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, spending a lot of time in those states, boots on the ground, running it like a retail campaign, shaking a lot of hands, going to a lot of small, medium, and large venues, flying off to do fundraising when he has to with the boss,
But running it like a retail campaign, like he ran for Senate in Ohio, or like governors run.
He's got the street cred to do that.
He's good.
His wife is an enormous asset.
She should be with him every minute.
And that's my political advice for the day.
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Right on.
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peter navarro
you hit...
You hit your mark beautifully.
You might have a future in this stuff.
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All right.
peter navarro
Always a pleasure to be with my posse.
I'll be back with you guys Friday, 10 to noon Eastern Time.
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