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WarRoom Battleground EP 566: Victories In France; MAGA Ascendant

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ben harnwell

09:32

natalie winters

08:12

steve bannon

17:24

tiffany justice

06:30

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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		This is what you're fighting for.
		I mean, every day you're out there.
		What they're doing is blowing people off.
		If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians, get total control and total power.
		Because this is just like in Arizona.
		This is just like in Georgia.
		It's another element that backs them into a corner and shows their lies and misrepresentations.
		This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.
		As we've told you, this is the fight.
unidentified		All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
		War Room Battleground.
		Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		That intro certainly hits a little bit differently today.
		I'd say it's Natalie G. Winters here in the War Room hosting.
		I'm still always going to say filling in for Stephen K. Bannon for these next, what may be four months to today, July 1st in the year of our Lord, 2024, a day that will live in infamy.
		And I use that term Intentionally, throughout the show, we'll get into what is happening with Steve.
		I'll give you my thoughts, but as you know, the core thesis of this show, both in rhetoric and in practice, is that we will not be phased by these attacks.
		It's the next man, or in this case, woman, up.
		We are going to focus on the news because you know what?
		They want us to be distracted.
		There's a reason Steve doesn't really talk about a lot of what has been going on with this court case and all things.
		The January 6th committee, because it's not the thing itself.
		The thing itself I promise you like I promised to Steve, and I guess what was my last conversation for a little bit with him, at least through normal communication methods, that we will deconstruct the administrative state.
		One of the first speeches I ever saw Steve give, he ended it to, of course, a thunderous applause.
		He said, when you set out to take Vienna, Take Vienna.
		Well, you know what?
		Steve set out to take Vienna by taking down the administrative state.
		And for these next four months and for years to come, we will take Vienna.
		We will take down the administrative state.
		You guys have severely overplayed your hand in thinking that this is going to shut War Room up because it's not.
		And I realize I have a couple of months to get the rants down and give you all my thoughts on everything that's going on.
		But I'd be remiss to not start today's show off.
		Without showing you the righteous indignation that is felt in the war room today and across this country, and frankly, across the world.
		We're lucky to have Ben Haringwell joining us, speaking of what is happening across the world.
		We're going to get into all things France and how this populist movement is really extending and expanding beyond just the borders.
		Of the United States.
		But Ben, I want to give you a chance to just remark on what has happened today from your perch over in Rome.
		Your thoughts, sir.
unidentified		Hey, Natalie.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Good afternoon to you.
		Look, Steve Bannon is a political prisoner.
		And that's not me saying this.
		This is the editorial of The Washington Times back on, I think, June the 10th, the day after the epoch-changing European elections.
		That's the truth.
		Steve Bannon is a political prisoner.
		This is the Biden corrupt D.O.J.
		F.B.I.
		complex turning the United States into a banana republic.
		There is some good out of this, Natalie, and that Steve is basically offering himself for this.
		as a sacrificial lamb here.
		But he's sitting in front of the whole nation here, effectively, as did Peter Navarro, a
		precedent that can now be followed.
		If the Americans had a genuinely responsive Republican Party, if the GOP actually represented the interests of its members and voters, as opposed to just going Through the motions of doing that in purely performative terms.
		If it actually had a genuine, serious GOP, they should be issuing subpoenas.
		Their only work now, would they have a majority of one?
		Instead of principal legislative battles, they should be issuing, dozens of their committees should be issuing dozens and dozens of subpoenas every single day, left, right and centre.
		Listen, Natalie, I have a friend You know her as well.
		I think she spent like a couple of hundred thousand euros of her own money just because she was called to appear before the Mueller committee, right?
		It's expensive.
		I just did this myself after five years of criminal investigations here in Italy on totally spurious charges.
		That's what the prosecution said just before I was acquitted by the judge.
		Defending yourself against political prosecutions is expensive business, right?
		I was one of these people who thought and believed that what we really need now is to reduce the temperature in the United States, not only in America, but in America, and get the FBI, get the DOJ back to normal in a non-politicalized, weaponized form.
		I've changed my mind.
		Absolutely not, right?
		If the machinery of this corrupt state falls into the hands of Donald Trump on November 5th, he should use the DOJ and the FBI to do exactly what they have done to Joe Biden's political enemies and do it back, right?
		That is what I think.
		As I say, the various committees in Congress should be issuing subpoenas to the left, right and centre.
		Right, because they actually have the power to do this for now.
		They should be issuing subpoenas left, right and centre.
		Drill down on the CCP, which is something close to your heart.
		Drill down on election interference, which Mike Lindell's been covering so fantastically
		over the last two years, drill down on J6, drill down on Fauci and Covid, one subpoena
		after another.
		And when they don't show up, this is the point of what I'm going to say, Steve has put himself
		out there and he's now going to prison for four months.
		When they don't show up, they go to prison.
		Right.
		This is the point now.
		This is the new paradigm that the Democrats have created and instituted.
		And it is now up to this movement, MAGA, to ensure that the Republicans do the same back.
		And then after four years of that, perhaps they'll think twice, then it de-escalates.
		Then reduce the temperature, reduce the tenor, and return to something approaching normality.
		But the Democrats, if their lesson is that they can misabuse the state when it's in their hands, and yet Republicans should act like Mother Teresa, The lesson is that they learn is that they can and will do so again with impunity.
		And that, I think, is my substantial takeaway of the historical events that have taken place today.
		As I say, Washington Times say that Steve Bannon is a political prisoner, and they are absolutely correct.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		No, you're so right.
		And he's one of many, certainly the highest profile.
		But I think you've hit the nail on the head, the difference in what we're looking for when it comes to accountability, what we've seen for years from these speckless Republicans, is just sort of these nebulous terms.
		Oh, you know, the socialists, the communists, the far left is people who they don't want to put A face to the name.
		The people who are destroying this country, the people who are throwing Steve in prison, the people who are coming after this show, they have names, they have addresses, right?
		They can be subpoenaed.
		And that is, I think, the fundamental difference that this show has pushed for years, right?
		That it's not just some monolithic term, oh, the globalist ruling class, that is comprised of very specific people, right?
		The very same people who are not just gonna give us the keys to the kingdom once President Trump wins again,
		but we can go after them.
		And you're so right.
		If there is, if there can even be anything chalked up to a silver lining in all of this,
		at least we now know, right?
		Projection, right?
		That's the left strategy.
		At least we now know what to do when they defy our subpoenas and something tells me the American prison system
		will be a little bit fuller with America's greatest traitors.
		You know, it really, I think was an interesting moment when you had this crazy deranged protesters today
		screaming traitor, it's Steve.
		And it sort of made me think about how, you know, as you well know, Steve calls his house in DC,
		the Breitbart embassy, because they feel like they're in a foreign capital
		because they're one of the few media outlets and people who actually put the interests
		of the American people first.
		And I said, you know what?
		You are right.
		Steve is a traitor to the deep state.
		He's a traitor to the way that politics is typically run in this country.
		He is a traitor to the ruling class.
		And thank God we have him.
		Thank God he's still here.
		But you can tell that that is why they're going after him.
		So if this is the rules that they wanna play by, then.
		Well, we'll play by them, but it's not just happening here.
		It's obviously happening across the globe, and you can add on what you were going to say in a sec, but if you want to loop this more broadly, why they're so scared, not just of what's going on here in the United States, but in France particularly, the protests that are going there, the election results.
		Can you walk us through all that?
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, sure.
		I want to come back to your point about saying that Steve is a traitor, and he is in a certain sense.
		He's a class traitor.
		He's a guy who was actually in the heart of the Navy in the Pentagon in the 80s.
		He then went in to Goldman Sachs and was made, I think, vice president within a couple of years.
		He knows how the system works.
		And he was very successful in that, right?
		And he used the knowledge and the insights that he saw now to equip, conceptually equip, the whole of the MAGRA movement to fight against the very things in which he first, the enterprises in which he very first found success.
		So of course, you know, he is a traitor, not to the Republic, not to America, but to the institutions like Goldman Sachs, like the Pentagon, the heart of the military-industrial complex.
		I'm sure that there's an element of the antipathy that they feel towards him.
		It's part of that, that this guy was one of them and he broke ranks.
		I know you've got Tiffany and Mike waiting to come on.
		There's been huge news in France.
		Basically my takeaway is this.
		For President Macron, three weeks ago, after the results of the European elections, saw that there'd been a huge movement towards the national rally.
		And he's basically, his pitch was, if I, this European vote thing, the European elections, that was a protest vote.
		If I confront the country with the possibility that these guys, whom the establishment had termed far right, they're not far right, They decreed, they had pronounced these people.
		If I give them an ultimatum, an up-down vote, they're going to come back into the fold.
		Natalie, not only did that not happen, the National Rally increased its vote from about 32.2 to 33.1, just slightly under a percent, over a three-week period.
		And that is in the face of a colossal propaganda campaign.
		You know, you've seen this in the newspapers yourself, right?
		You had threats from the European Commission to impose sanctions on France.
		You had threats coming out that the financial markets were going to do like a Liz Truss the one-month British prime minister.
		They're doing this truss on Marine Le Pen's government, which will be headed, presumably, by Jordan Barthel.
		So the French people have just been bombarded with a fair campaign on behalf of the establishment.
		And here's the takeaway. It didn't work.
		In fact, it was counterproductive.
		So look, we're going to see how the next round is on Sunday, the 7th of July.
		I think only 75 or so seats, because it's a one member, one seat system like in America.
		No, not like in America.
		Each constituency has only one member.
		Each constituency has only one member.
		And I think 75 got over the 50 percent threshold.
		And the rest are going to go to the second round.
		And that's where the alliance is.
		The left are already forming their alliances so that those—the left is saying—the United
		Left Front is saying it's going to drop out where it appeared in third or lower place
		to give the second party a stronger chance in campaign against the Nationalist Party.
		So we're going to see how France now decides it wants to go forward when it just simply has a dual candidate presentation.
		And I think that's where the intention is.
		But it's an astonishing result.
		For the nationalists.
		As I say, they're not far right.
		They are pretty much old-school 1970s era socialists.
		They're protectionist on all the metrics.
		The one thing that distinguishes them naturally from the elites that are driving Europe into the ground elsewhere is their Absolutely implacables stand on immigration.
		That's the one thing that stops them from being called far left and insists that they have the designation far right.
		It's the immigration issue.
		It's always the immigration issue.
		That issue, for our globalist elite, is existential.
		I don't know why, but they are determined to bring as many people from the Third World into the West as possible.
		That is existential for them.
		And only we, the people, can stop that.
		Thanks, Natalie.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		Ben, thank you so much for joining us.
		If people want to follow you, stay up to date with all of your analysis.
		In between shows, where can they go to do all that?
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼		On Getter, at Harnwell, which is my surname.
		Thanks so much, Natalie.
		Catch you tomorrow.
		God bless.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
		Thank you so much for joining us.
		I think we've got to bring back some of Steve's old sayings.
		What is it?
		We're blowing through the firewall.
		Remember that one?
		For some of you OG War Room posse members.
		We will keep his spirit alive.
		I guess also, I don't even know if we've announced this yet, but I am going to be taking over the 6pm show.
		So this edition, the one that's aired on Frank Speech and Rumble and Getter.
		Um, you know, we have that rotating cast of hosts for the rest of the morning show and the 5pm show.
		I'll be jumping in on an as-need basis, but I realize I don't think anyone announced that, so just for some programming updates.
		I know we don't usually give you updates here in the War Room, so coherently we're a little all over the place, but for at least the next four months you can Regularly see me here in the 6 p.m.
		hour.
		I'm honored to be starting off my stint as the guest host for the 6 p.m.
		hour by also having Tiffany Justice, the co-founder of Moms for Liberty, on.
		Now, Tiffany, I want to give you a chance to, of course, just react to what we saw happening With Steve today, but I think your perspective is particularly unique because you have really weaponized, and I use that word in its truest sense, the passion, the anger, really the righteous indignation of moms across this country into a true, raw, grassroots political powerhouse.
		Very similar, and again, I think, to what we've done here in the War Room.
		So from your perspective, looking at what happened, you know, with Steve today, I'm sure the audience would love to hear your thoughts.
tiffany justice ▲ ● ▼		First of all, I want to say congratulations to you for taking over the 6 p.m.
		hour.
		I think it's wonderful.
		And the fact that Steve gave that to you, obviously, he thinks a lot of you and the work that you do, Natalie.
		So congratulations for that.
		I have no doubt you're going to do a wonderful job.
unidentified		Thank you very much.
tiffany justice ▲ ● ▼		You're welcome.
		Today, it was hard to watch Steve last night talk about going to prison and to see it happen today.
		You know, I think it's a sad moment for our country.
		I do think the American government has been weaponized against the people.
		And you're right.
		You know, I mean, we are grassroots, Moms4Liberty, true grassroots.
		I think that's why Steve has been such an amazing friend to us, because he really does understand what we're doing, because he's done the very same thing.
		I know Steve is tough.
		And, you know, I told him that we've got lots of moms and dads and community members at Moms4Liberty praying for him.
		And, of course, he said, you know, pray for your—you need to pray for our enemies.
		And that's what he always says, and he means it.
		There is no doubt.
		I saw him say victory or death.
		We are at a real crisis point in our country.
		What we saw the other night was an American president who is barely able to put sentences together.
		And I thought President Trump did a wonderful job of being compassionate and kind, but also setting, you know, some hope for the future for Americans to see that there is someone that can lead us going forward.
		And, you know, I credit Steve a lot for the work that he's done to help, certainly, President Trump get elected, and then to continue to tell the truth through the past four years of Joe Biden and the lies and the manipulations that we've seen from the left.
		A sad day, but I also think that different things happen for reasons.
		And this is a time for leadership.
		And so all of the people that have worked on War Room who have had roles before, this is your opportunity to step up and lead for all of us, really.
		And certainly the moms and dads on the ground.
		And I know that's exactly what Steve expects of us to lead, to not back down, to continue to fight.
		And that's exactly what we're going to do.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		I think you can draw the parallel between the 2016 election with Trump, where you saw, you know, the far left, the Democrats get so galvanized, so radicalized, where they knocked doors, like Steve always says, you know, he handed it to them for that, the midterm victory in 2018, because there was a reason, there was a cause for them to rally around.
		But frankly, I don't understand the miscalculation on the part of the deep state and the globalist ruling class in going after Steve, because they know there's going to be a significant pushback, although I guess they think that
		with their Praetorian Guard and having people like Joe Biden and Merrick Garland and Lisa
		Monaco in positions of power, that they can quash any dissent, which is why it's so imperative
		that this war room posse, that your followers continue to speak up to show them that they
		can't get away with it.
		But just, you know, as we approach November and elections, not just the presidential level, I know you guys are focusing on school boards and all that, you know, how do you think the cultural issues are playing out?
		To me, it seems like I guess we just finished, you know, Pride Month and we all saw the clips on Twitter of what's going on.
		But, you know, when you talk to your members of Moms for Liberty, what's kind of the feeling, the boots on the ground there?
tiffany justice ▲ ● ▼		We're energized.
		Moms and dads are energized.
		Finally, America is seeing the truth about what's happening across the country.
		San Francisco Pride Parade was yesterday.
		The images that Americans saw in their social media feeds, on their TV screens, were shocking.
		Horrible.
		Kids watching adults urinating on each other on the street.
		I mean, this is shocking, shocking stuff.
		And so I think people are finally waking up.
		And that's why I said it's a real turning point at this time in our country to decide which way do we go forward.
		Our moms and dads are really energized, and we are fighting at every level of government to defend our parental rights.
		So we only endorse in school board races.
		But here's my message to elected officials.
		Our moms and dads have largely not been political in the past.
		In fact, we took a large portion of our membership and compared it against the voter rolls, and what we found was the fact that many of them hadn't been registered to vote.
		So, as much as we're trying to change people's minds, this is also about energizing the people who agree with us already, getting them out to vote at every level.
		And so, to candidates, my message is this.
		Moms and dads want to know that you are going to fight on the front lines for parental rights.
		We want you to fight for public education, to teach kids how to read, for choice about where our kids go to school.
		Trust us as parents to make those types of decisions and tell us that you're going to stand between us and the government in your elected capacity in order to safeguard our parental rights.
		These are not rights the government gives us.
		And they're not rights that they can take away, but we need strong elected officials to help us to defend them.
		So if you're running for office right now, make sure you're saying, I'm the parental rights candidate.
		Parents, you should be voting for me.
		I promise you that's really going to help you in your races.
		There is no doubt about it, because that, Natalie, is what parents really care about.
		We're concerned about the future of our country.
		We're watching our open borders and watching as women and girls and moms and daughters are not safe in this country.
		My goodness, how scary that is.
		But also our grocery bills.
		My grocery bill, Natalie, is like twice what it used to be.
		I'm raising four kids.
		And so the pressure is coming from so many different directions on the American people right now.
		And, you know, you say the deep state didn't know what they were doing with Steve.
		This is war, to quote Andrew Bibert.
		We are at war.
		And they didn't know what they were doing because Steve is powerful and people listen to him.
		And I know the power of Steve because I come on this show.
		And after I'm on here, we get new chapters starting.
		We get donations that come in.
		We get more comments and questions on the work that we're doing, more support.
		And so to your viewers, Steve, And Natalie, I say thank you.
		Thank you for being the true army on the ground supporting the people who are doing work and helping to throw your hat in and to help us to do the work we need to do to get voters out in order to change the direction of America.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		Well, thank you.
		It's certainly all due to Steve.
		I'm honored to be part of the next man up.
		It's, I guess, his new mantra for the summer.
		But Tiffany, I know you guys probably have some events coming up.
		If people want to get involved, follow you.
		Tell us about how they can do all that.
tiffany justice ▲ ● ▼		Thank you for that.
		Yeah, we do have some exciting events coming up.
		So I'll be in Milwaukee with our whole team.
		We're doing a convention event.
		You know, you have all these elected leaders in one place who are doing really great things in their states in order to advance leadership and America and our fundamental rights and freedoms.
		And so We'll be doing a town hall on July 16th in Milwaukee at the Bradley Symphony Center from 2 to 4 30.
		We're going to have governors, AGs, some legislators there.
		Kevin Roberts of the Heritage Foundation is going to moderate with me.
		We have some amazing sponsors, Public Square, Heritage, Conservative Partnership Institute.
		Young America's Foundation.
		So very excited about that event.
		Make sure if you're in Milwaukee, you check us out and you come to that event.
		It's free, open to everybody.
		And then we have our National Summit coming up at the end of August.
		And that is a very special event.
		Natalie, I think you know we had five presidential candidates that had attended our event.
		We've, of course, extended invitation to President Biden if he'd like to join us.
		But President Trump sure will be, and we'll be hearing from him and how he feels.
		about parents as we move forward into this election.
		We'll also have some really amazing speakers who are gonna talk about how they're making change
		happen on the ground, and then a whole host of breakout sessions
		to put tools and resources and information in your toolkit in order to be able to be a great advocate.
		So go to our website, momsforliberty.org, check out the summit.
		See the other resources we have available.
		And of course, if you feel like you want to donate, we can need the help to get people to the event, to Summit.
		As I said, it's been a real crunch for our moms in order to get to Summit.
		We try to give scholarships to people.
		So if you give right now to the Summit, that's what we're going to be using it for, to help moms to come to D.C.
		and to celebrate.
		Well, also, one last thing, March for Kids.
		On August 31st.
		This is the first ever March on Washington for children, and it's just a really important way for a bunch of different people, different coalition partners to come together to put kids first in America again.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		Lauren Posse, if you're looking at a way to become the next man or next woman up, I think you just got three very good suggestions.
		Tiffany, thank you so much for joining us.
		I'm sure we'll see you back here soon.
		Have a good one.
		Thank you.
		Wouldn't be an episode of The War Room without the one and only Mike Lindell, who has some on what is an otherwise dark day.
		Some good, non-lumpy news for us.
		Mike, if you want to let it rip, as Steve would say.
unidentified		Right.
		Well, Nellie, I want to say welcome to Frank Speech.
		Tonight is Rudy Giuliani right after the show here.
		It's his debut on FrankSpeech.com, everybody, and then followed by Lou Dobbs and myself later in the night.
		And I talked to Steve yesterday, everybody, for about a half hour, and he said, Mike, take care of the War Room Posse.
		And on my pillow, we're so proud to be the War Room's one of the biggest sponsors.
		So what we're doing is we're giving away with any purchase today, you guys, you're going to get, we're bringing back the Revival Pillow free with no purchase.
		I mean, no purchase necessary.
		I want to get you all to the website to check out all the great specials.
		So you're getting, This pillow here, the Revival, the Revival Flag Pillow for absolutely no purchase.
		And if you go there, we've got, if you go to the website, we have the 1998 Queen MyPillows.
		There it is.
		That's a War Room exclusive 4th of July special, the Premium MyPillows.
		King or queen, $19.98.
		We're going to run it all week long or extend it here.
		And so go to the website.
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		You get the free pillow with no purchase necessary.
mike lindell ▲ ● ▼		And there's our mattress topper that for $149.98, free set of percale sheets.
unidentified		That commercial actually starts this week, but at the War Room Plaza, you get it with free shipping.
unidentified		And Mike, we've got to balance.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		I know the posse is going to pile in.
		Get those pillows.
		Thank you so much for joining us and thank you for everything you've done to keep this show running.
		We appreciate it.
		And Warren Posse, after we come back from commercial break, we're going to be playing the first half of Steve's, I believe you call it, bench press interview with ABC's Vaughn Hilliard.
unidentified		We'll play the second half of it tomorrow, but you've got to stay tuned.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		You've got to watch it.
		It's amazing as you can imagine.
		He throws down on Vaughn Hilliard.
		It's a nice guy, but in deep fashion.
		Monday.
unidentified		he gives him a shellacking of words he would say.
		We'll be opening the next block with that, and I will see you guys tomorrow.
		All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
		War Room Battleground with Stephen K. Bannon.
		Monday, Monday you are slated to head to prison here.
		For you, what does going to prison mean for you, but also the MAGA movement?
		I think for me it's just like, I've got a picture right there of my Navy ship.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		In the 20s I spent my time on a Navy destroyer in the North Arabian Sea, Persian Gulf, Western Pacific, in my 70s.
		I'll spend part of it in a federal prison.
		I'm still defending my country, I'm still defending the Constitutional Republic I took an oath to back in my early 20s, so it doesn't phase me at all.
		It's a part of the process.
		We're clearly at a political war in this country, and our enemies have weaponized the Justice Department across the board, whether it's bankruptcies or you know, getting people, uh, throw them out of the bar or
		de-platform them, or in President Trump, in my case, and Pierre Navarro and a
		couple others, to actually send them to prison so it doesn't phase me at
		all.
		The, uh, the show in War Room will be even more powerful when we're there.
		So I think for the MAGA movement, it's a wake-up call.
unidentified		What does your show look like the next four months before the election?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We're going to have a host.
		We're going to have like 20 co-hosts.
		It'll be bigger.
		Look, our phrase is next man up, right?
		You can't depend upon Trump to always be there.
		You can't Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, Steve Bannon.
		This is a populist movement and people have to step up.
		The reason the show's been so...
		Not just popular, but powerful today.
		So people have to step up.
		So the show will be even bigger, even better.
		I'll be able to, you know, with my First Amendment rights, you can't run a business from prison, and that's obvious, but I'll be able to, like Peter was, talk to people on the outside, do interviews, make sure that my team is going along the right path as far as the media goes and as far as what's happening.
		It's obviously after Thursday night going to be dramatically different than what everybody envisions.
		So I think for the MAGA movement, If my going to prison is what it took to wake up Congress to really, hey, what's going on here, and to have the Speaker of the House on the blag to vote 3-2 to rescind the J6 committee, and it looks like taking action, including the inherent contempt proposal that may be brought up on Monday, to actually go on offense to defend the American people against an out-of-control Justice Department, then my going to prison is well worth it.
		So it doesn't affect me at all.
unidentified		Do you plan to make calls out of prison to contribute to the show?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't think you can make calls out of the show.
		I want no mail, except my papers, but no mail from the audience.
		I tell people, no mail, I'm not going to read your letters, no visits.
		I work 18 to 20 hours a day right now.
		Pretty monkish existence focused on just growing the MAGA movement and victory for our cause and our movement and for President Trump.
		And so I'll work, I'll have a prison job and I'll have things I have to do, just like on a Navy ship I had things to do.
		So part of my day will be doing what I have to do in prison to make sure I meet the rules and regulations.
		And the other time I'll be 100% working to make sure President Trump's President Trump's reelected.
		Look, Merrick Garland's in Biden White House.
		The timing of this, you know, it's no coincidence.
		The timing of this, the federal appeals court that we gave and we argued in front in November, a pretty straightforward argument.
		They took seven or eight months to come back, right?
		They could have returned this in 30 days.
		They could have returned it in 60 days.
		They waited.
		This thing was totally set up entirely to make sure that I was off air, right, personally, and not there to really talk to President Trump in the run-up to the election.
		But here's what they don't understand.
		We only get stronger with this.
		We're not going to get weaker.
		We're a populist movement.
		In this MAGA, and particularly the War Room, we took down a sitting Speaker of the House
		for the first time in history.
		We took down Mitch McConnell and made him break his pick on the Ukraine vote, which
		he stepped aside.
		And then we took down the entire leadership of the RNC within 100 days earlier this year.
		So this show is like a military command center.
		We have an Army of the Awakened.
		We're going to raise 100,000 or 200,000 people, not dollars, people, to be all over the 2024 election.
		And it's not going to stop us one way.
		They're only going to make us stronger and more determined.
unidentified		If you had just complied with the January 6th Select Committee subpoena and testified and provided documents to them, you would not be going to prison right now.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
unidentified		Why not just comply?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		But first off, it's not—first off, I did my—advice of my counsel when President Trump exerted executive privilege said, you've got to follow the president, and I followed my counsel, and that's one of the big arguments.
unidentified		Everybody else besides you and Peter Navarro, though, went.
		Some even pled the fifth.
		Why not just plead the fifth?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Because first off, my counsel told me, hey, since the president exerted executive privilege, you just stand down.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		But number two is also, and this is what's happened the last day, it was not a legitimately conceived committee.
unidentified		The Republicans could have had members on that committee if they so decided.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Hang on, Vaughn.
		We had two members.
		Remember, every other committee, and this is why it gets back to what's happening today in the polling.
		The reason Watergate galvanized the nation, the reason Iran-Contra galvanized the nation, they were set up that you have a ranking member and you have minority counsel.
		And that minority counsel gets all the evidence and can cross-examine witnesses.
		This is why Watergate was so galvanizing.
		This is why Iran-Contra is so galvanizing.
		Nancy Pelosi set up a whole new system.
		Jim Banks and Jim Jordan were supposed to be there, and they're going to have a minority counsel, and she says no.
		Because they were insurrectionists, and the reason she deemed them insurrectionists, they were prepared to argue, just argue in the House of Representatives on January 6th, that they couldn't certify the Biden electorate.
		She deemed that those two guys were insurrectionists, they couldn't be on it, and no minority council.
		Kevin McCarthy said no way, and they picked Cheney and Kinzinger, who have been turfed out of the Republican Party since then.
		And this is why I think about it.
		And they had an ABC TV producer come in and do it.
		So you had crazy talk by Cassie Hutchison and all these people.
		He's choking people.
		No cross-examination and no evidence.
		The American people got bored.
		And how do I know they got bored?
		The evidence shows me that.
		On the day before, on the eve of the Biden fiasco debate, the Washington Post put out a poll that said about, ask the American people in swing states, who do you think defends, who do you entrust to defend democracy more, Donald Trump or Joe Biden?
		This is the centerpiece of the Biden's campaign.
		Every night on MSNBC, I just get democracy, democracy, democracy.
		People view Trump as a better guardian of democracy, including swing state independent voters, by 13%.
		It means that Nancy Pelosi's thing had no resonance.
		And the reason it had no resonance, there was no tension, no drama in it.
unidentified		There's not that tension you get... There was a lot that was revealed from the January 6th Select Committee's effort.
		And I don't think that you or anybody would dispute that it was necessary to investigate what led to the attack there that day.
		Hang on, Vaughn, Vaughn, Vaughn. Was it by partisan?
		Republicans did not agree to that. Hold on, hang on. What do you mean by partisan? And ultimately the January 6th
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Select Committee, they did subpoena you. Hang on, hang on, hang on. I've been the first person in the loudest voice
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		that we should adjudicate January 6th. When we say adjudicate January 6th, I want to adjudicate January 6th. You said
unidentified		that all those 1,400 individuals who were convicted should be free. Should be free.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		There may be a couple of three on the violent side that should be determined.
		But by and large, they should be free and they should be free the first day.
		But hang on.
		Hang on for a second.
unidentified		If they allowed you to defy a congressional subpoena.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It's an illegitimate subpoena.
unidentified		If they allowed all of those.
		It's a fair.
		It was a congressional.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		OK, Vaughn, Vaughn, Vaughn, hang on.
		A jury found me guilty.
		Remember, my judge said at the trial I couldn't put on a defense.
		A jury found me guilty when I wasn't able to put on defense of a vice or counsel.
		I wasn't able to put on defense.
		The judge, Judge Nichols, actually asked my attorney, my attorney goes in the pre-trial, he says, well hang on, you've taken away all the banners and defenses.
		Why are we even having a trial?
		And Nichols goes, I'm asking you that.
		Why are we having a trial?
		Because all my defenses were limited.
		This is the basis of my appeal.
		But hang on for a second.
		We need to adjudicate January 6th.
		I am the biggest advocate of having, not Loudermilk, but the Speaker of the House do that today.
		And if it's not done today, it's got to be done in January 2025.
		We must get to the bottom.
		And the Democrats should have a ranking member, and the Democrats should have minority counsel.
		That's Dan Goldman.
		Put your best lawyers on it.
		We have to get all the evidence out about There's not a single individual who is a federal agent who has been convicted or even accused of having an attack on the Capitol.
unidentified		a single individual who is a federal agent who has been convicted or even accused of
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		having an attack on a federal agent.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Hang on, hang on.
unidentified		But we don't know who this is.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		But by the way, Chris Wray will never answer that question.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		That question is never answered by Chris Wray.
unidentified		But on all the video, the surveillance footage that has been released, nobody has been able
unidentified		to identify one individual who is a federal agent.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Hang on for a second.
		Hang on for a second.
		People are talking about federal agents all over the place.
		Let's just get, and by the way, people randomly looking at videos, I want, you guys are all
		in for process.
		I'm in for process.
		I have advocated to have a rebooted January 6th committee.
		There will be no question of whether, the Democrats get a ranking member and the Democrats
		get a minority council.
		The Democrats get to see all the evidence and the Democrats get to cross-examine witnesses.
		It's the only way we're going to get to the bottom of it and people should understand we're going to get to the bottom of it.
		We're going to find out exactly what happened on J6, Nancy Pelosi's role in it, why the National Guard was not called up, Chris Miller in his book Who's acting Secretary of Defense, talks about a meeting in the Pentagon, talks about a meeting in the Oval Office, where he proposed to Trump, and Trump said, yeah, I want 10,000 guys here.
		They had footage the other day, and maybe it wasn't perfect footage about Nancy Pelosi, but you've never gotten to the bottom of the question about the National Guard.
		We must adjudicate fully January 6th.
		I want to adjudicate 2020.
unidentified		I want to look forward to 2024 and what comes and where we go.
		But on the January 6th front, I was going to get this at the end, but I want to get at this now.
		By not going before the January 6th election.
		Yeah.
		There was a lot of questions that you did not answer.
vaughn hillyard ▲ ● ▼		A week before the election, you said he's going to sit right there and say that he's, that you said on a week before the election, you said he's going to sit right there and say they stole it there.
unidentified		Why should folks even trust it?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Hang on a second.
unidentified		The fact that Donald Trump says that now.
		Hang on a second.
		Why should folks suggest that this is not just a ploy?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Hang on a second.
		Because I know this is MSNBC and I know you'll give me full vetting.
		The context of that is very important.
		A guy, and I'm gonna throw out a random name, that maybe comes on MSNBC a couple of times, Mark Elias.
		Mark Elias put out a document called the Transition Integrity Project, and he put that out in July of 2020.
		And what Mark Elias said is that, hey, as we go through this, the mail-in ballots are gonna be critical.
		And so, on election night, at 11 o'clock, when Donald Trump's winning by a landslide, Do not panic.
		And we don't want people coming in rioting, we don't want people there.
		Just stick with the program.
		When all the ballots are counted, all the ballots, didn't say legitimate votes, certifiable votes, when everything is counted, I think Joe Biden will be named the winner in 10 days, basically the Saturday after.
		This is Mark Elias.
		That was taken from, I went around the country with Raheem Kassam and Bill McGinley is now at the RSC.
		We started in New York and because of COVID, a lot of it had to be by Zoom and that's taken from a Zoom call.
		I went around to tell Republicans Hey, wake up.
		They are telling you exactly how they're going to steal this.
		They're telling you it's coming through the mail-in ballots, and particularly places like Pennsylvania and others, where they're saying... And so, not only did I tell the campaign I was adamant about, and I never really made contact with President Trump, but saying publicly everywhere, including on War Room, at 11 o'clock at night, when he's up by...
		No Biden did not declare victory that night.
		has no official capacity.
		The Associated Press hasn't called it, hasn't been certified.
		But he should step up there and say, hey, quite frankly, I won this.
		Watch these mail-in ballots.
unidentified		And if he had done that — Biden did not declare victory that night.
		Nobody usually declares victory on election night.
		Because you understood — you understood that the mail-in ballots, that that process
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, stop!
unidentified		No, no, I was, no, no, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		The mail-in ballot process, the mail-in ballot process, the mail-in ballot process, first of all, the president can stand up at any time and say, hey, looking at this right now, I'm saying I won.
unidentified		What?
unidentified		Just this month, in Detroit, up on a stage, you said that there is no chance that the Democrats are going to win this.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		No chance.
		If they declare that they do, then it was stolen.
		They're stealing it.
unidentified		100%.
		But you know that elections in the United States are close.
		You know that there is a very reasonable chance that the Democrats win the White House again.
		To go- Hold, hold, hold, hold.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Vaughn Hill, you're- Vaughn Hill, you're- Look, Vaughn- Because, Von Hiryud, I knew the Thursday Night was going to happen.
		How can you sit there, unrelated to the facts?
		I sat there because we know, and we follow every day, that Joe Biden is feeble.
		That Joe Biden is feeble.
		And MSNBC stopped.
unidentified		That doesn't mean that the American public may not vote for him again.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Are you kidding me?
		Have you seen the polls?
		Have you seen the New York Times?
		Have you seen MSNBC?
		Tell that to MSNBC.
unidentified		That is not evidence of voter fraud.
unidentified		That is not evidence.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I didn't say that.
		No, no, no.
		I sat there and said, there is no chance the Democrats can win this.
		And then a couple of days later, Joe Biden, who's been protected by the New York Times, protected by MSNBC, comes up and humiliates the nation.
		And now 69%, if I believe the poll came today, thinks that he should remove himself from the ballot.
		Why am I not?
		I sat there at the time and said, there is no chance that Joe Biden and the Democrats can win this.
		And at the time, the polling for Trump was very strong in, in, in, in battleground states and cross tab demographics.
		And so then on Thursday night in front of the whole world, that was revealed.
		You should be saying, Steve, how did you have, how were you so pressing about this?
		Because I'm telling you brother on your channel, which We watch MSC, as you know here, so we're sitting here watching.
		When they came back, it was like sitting Shiva.
		It was like a Christian wake.
		Rachel Maddow and the entire team is gobsmacked about what happened.
unidentified		I don't know what the point is, exactly.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		The point is that that's why I said that in Detroit, that it is zero chance that Democrats can win this.
unidentified		It's not zero chance, though.
		It's zero chance.
		Let me, let me, let me repeat this.
		It's not showing... I am showing, hold it, hold it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		The election process in this country, Trump, let me make sure MSNBC and my man Vaughn here understands this.
		The 2020 election was stolen.
		Donald Trump won that election.
unidentified		If you guys had such evidence though, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		What are you talking about?
		We never got, hang on, we never got, Vaughn, Vaughn, we never got standing.
		There was never an evidentiary hearing whatsoever in all those 60 or 70, and you know this, 60 or 70 cases that went to court.
		Not one evidentiary hearing.
		Let me repeat this for the MSNBC, and here's the thing.
		For having the entire media apparatus against us, right?
		Having the House, the Senate, the presidency, all the media apparatus, NBC News, ABC, CNN, the New York Times, Washington Post.
		How is it, how is it, Fox News never did this, Newsmax, how is it that this little show out of this, out of this kind of gonzo situation, now has almost 50% of the American people that think that Joe Biden is illegitimate, including I think 70% of Republicans.
		The reason is, Over time, people have seen as what's come out and they have huge questions on 2020.
		Back to Mark Elias's, back to Mark Elias's, the transition integrity project.
		So let me repeat this.
		The Democrats have no ability to win this unless they cheat.
unidentified		So this month, you said this.
		Quote, if they steal this election and they fully intend to steal it, this republic ends.
		Are you prepared to fight?
		Are you prepared to give it all?
		Are you prepared to leave it all on the battlefield?
		Ladies and gentlemen, it's very simple.
		Victory or death, they can't win this election.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Those were your words to a crowd.
unidentified		What is your end game?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Victory or death of this republic.
		If we don't win, first of all, they shred the constitution.
		It is the death of the constitutional American republic we know, and now it'll be more of an imperial project that will go forward.
		And that is why we're not going to lose.
unidentified		What is your endgame?
unidentified		Are you concerned about violence ahead in this country in November?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		No, not at all.
		Dude, we're winning.
		Why am I concerned about violence?
		We're winning everywhere.
unidentified		Victory or death.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Victory or death of the Republic.
		Victory or death is a famous saying from Scipio Africanus, Lord Nelson, Colonel Travis at the Alamo.
		It is something to jack people up.
		And yes, I'm in the business of jacking people up.
unidentified		You told our friend Isaac Arnstor from the Washington Post, quote, we have to rebuild the institutions.
		That is not my job.
		We're not going to be rebuilding any time in the foreseeable future.
		We're going to be taking things apart.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		You just saw the Supreme Court just ruled our long project.
		And by the way, I want to compliment Chris Hayes, who had the best comment.
		He said yesterday when they had the Chevron deference overruled, you know, six to three, that at the same time they gave a thumbs down on the stay of my thing.
		And he said, the Supreme Court said, hey, Steve, thanks for all your previous work on the administrative state.
		We got it from here.
		And it's actually a brilliant statement.
unidentified		What should the American public expect when we say taking things apart, bringing down the administrative state?
unidentified		In actual detailed terms, what does that actually look like in 2025?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		The administrative state, we're going to have, I think, a three-pronged attack.
		One, you have what we call Project 2025 or many others.
		CRA has one, American First Legal.
		So there's five or six Institutions that have been built up over the last couple years that are more MAGA than they are traditional Republican.
		And one of the things all of these are converging on in part of the executive part is this concept that we've had a leviathan that has grown up that's that's post-constitutional.
		It is never in the framers never considered it and what it's it's not just the alphabet agencies but how the cabinet officials have now taken on much bigger purview.
		Remember The authorization process that's supposed to be authorized every five years, like you do on annual defense authorization, hasn't been done in decades in something for the FBI and DOJ, so they've taken on and metastasized with the alphabet agencies.
		They have this massive federal bureaucracy that nobody intended.
		It's one of the people talk about limited government, people talk about cutting spending.
		You can't do that until you actually get to the Leviathan, the administrative state.
		And so a three-pronged approach, one of those parts is the federal courts and what takes on, and particularly the
		Supreme Court. And remember, when we defeated Hillary Clinton and her selection for the
		Supreme Court was, I'm going to throw out a random name, Merrick Garland, right? He was replaced when
		Trump won by a random name, Neil Gorsuch. And Neil Gorsuch is the theoretician of the
		deconstruction of the administrative state from a legal and judiciary point of view. That's why
		yesterday was so, so what people should see is that the federal government is going to shrink. And how's
		it going to shrink? Not on a percentage basis and not by firing individual bureaucrats. It's going
		to do less things. It's going to actually get out of being involved in every aspect of
		people's business. You're going to get a government that kind of comes back and we can afford.
		So you don't run $2 trillion deficits every year. The way you have to do it is by
		shrinking the federal government.
		We're not libertarians.
		We're not sitting to say you should have no government, right?
		Like Grover Norquist and those people said for years you should have a government that's in the bottom of a tub you wash away.
		But we believe the government's got to be shrunken pretty dramatically and that's why you have these projects from the executive branch and President Trump will appoint some of these people.
		He's going to pick his own people with some of these people.
		You're going to have legislatively You're going to have Congress come in and start in the appropriations process or start to take programs down programmatically, and you're going to have a three-pronged attack in the courts.
		And so we are going to take on the Leviathan, right?

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