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July 2, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 3725: Replacing Biden; Being A Force Multiplier
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darren j beattie
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dave brat
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jeffrey clark
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mark mitchell
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maureen bannon
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mike lindell
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nicolle wallace
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steve bannon
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steve stern
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jake tapper
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steve bannon
What I'm going to do is put 100% of my being on defeating, on defeating, on defeating these radical Marxist Democrats and then on the 20th of January, make sure that my voice is heard In President Trump's administration, although I'm not going in it, but make sure it's heard, to put Lisa Monaco, and Merrick Garland, and McCabe, and Comey, and Milley, and Hayden, and all the people assigned to the 51 traders of this country that should have their securities clearance ripped and take their pensions away before they're investigated to make sure that every person
That is conspired against the American people is brought to justice has nothing to do with retribution, but is brought to justice and I'm going to work on that 20 hours a day and we will win.
That's what Thursday night showed.
They rolled the dice because they were afraid they were so far behind.
Now it's a catastrophe.
They're going to sit there and lie and spin it away.
And that's why we must make the next two months the most toxic.
The process the Democrats are going to go through has to be unearthed on the Charlie Kirk show, human events in the Pacific, War Room.
Every day we're going to show the American people how toxic they are, what they've done to this country, and what they're trying to do now to basically working class people.
The next man up means we all have to put our shoulder to the wheel.
Here's what they can't crush.
Here's what they hate about War Room.
Here's what they hate about Turning Point.
Here's what they hate about human events.
And this is why I'm so proud that RAV does this.
These are shows not for people passively sitting there with their channel changer.
These are shows for activists.
These are basically for, you know, in the information war for the special forces.
So this is all about we have two things.
We have a get out the vote that we have to do and then we have to have the election officials, the judges, all of it.
It's all voluntary.
You don't have to write a check to anybody.
It's just putting your shoulder to the wheel.
In addition, being a force multiplier.
all of our shows and just pushing the stuff out doesn't cost you a penny.
It's going to take, it's going to require your being, it's going to require your spirit,
it's going to require your fighting spirit.
But this is the run up we've got now because remember on the show the other day, $2 billion,
$2 billion of outside money from the dark money groups that is not attached to Joe Biden.
It's attached to whoever they plug and play in there is against the MAGA forces.
And we can win if everybody turns to and puts their shoulder to the wheel.
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
I got a free shot all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved!
unidentified
safe. War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bound.
maureen bannon
It is, it is 1 July in the year of our Lord, 2020.
We are here in the War Room.
Clearly, Stephen K. Bannon is missing, but I will do my very best to fill in, to fill the big shoes that my father has left, but I know that I can do it.
We have with us Dave Bratt, and also joining us via Skype, the great Darren Beattie.
Darren, you there?
darren j beattie
Great to be with you both.
maureen bannon
Thank you, Darren.
Darren, what do you think of the atrocities that have occurred today?
darren j beattie
Well, you know, it's really it's really unfortunate and the broader context here is as we've laid out in a series of arguments and pieces and basically You know, the left traditionally was able to de-platform people with attack pieces through words like calling people racist, conspiracy theorists, election deniers.
And, you know, traditionally those kinds of accusations were able to do a lot of damage.
And now, with the word of the media becoming so delegitimized, so doubted, And to the point that the public has scorned for the media and what it says, the regime has had to move to a different stage of de-platforming, and that is throwing people in prison.
If you can't shut people up on social media through censorship, through epithets and aspersions, the next step is you have to throw them in prison.
And of course, there's a third step, which is the unmentionable, which we're all worried about in relation to Trump.
And that's, you know, that's where we are.
We're in step two, where the regime is imprisoning its opponents.
It happens.
Steve Bannon, Peter Navarro, Doug Mackey, as we've talked about, and there will be many more.
So it's really the next man up is a real.
It's not just a phrase.
There will be many more.
I think we can all rest assured, though, that the regime is doing this out of desperation.
Their whole tack for 2024 has failed.
You know, COVID worked out great for them.
The COVID scam worked out great for them.
The COVID of 2024 was supposed to be these sham trials, putting Bannon in prison, putting Trump in prison.
But what they've seen has totally backfired.
It only makes the public support the cause of patriotism more strongly.
The words convicted felon mean nothing when everyone understands the Department of Justice is illegitimate.
If anything, the words convicted felon means hero, means you stood up against the corrupt system.
So that was a profound miscalculation on the part of the regime.
And you know, Steve is a very tough guy, as you know, maybe one of the toughest, maybe the toughest.
So it's, you know, it's not a problem for him.
And he tells everyone, look, this means you need to fight harder.
And I think we should all take that to heart.
dave brat
Hey, Darren.
First of all, Mo, thanks for letting me be on with you while you host the show.
Darren, great to be on with you.
And I think you're spot on in the de-litimization of the mainstream media and their messaging.
And now, over the last few days after the debate, The New York Times comes out unheard of.
Steve made remarks on that and said, you know, wow, the New York Times.
But then within about eight hours, they reversed their position.
I think Obama and this team of the smart folks sharpened their pencil and did some mathematics.
And a couple of things.
There's there's some new messaging coming out that three states may be very hard to get someone other than Joe on the ballots.
There's complexities with bundles of money up in the Biden packs, et cetera, whether that can be shared, what the rules of the game are.
And so all of a sudden today, drudge, all of them, all the aggregators, et cetera, flip their messaging 180 degrees, which is a story in itself, right?
The basic rumor, the D.C.
Drano story is Biden has the delegates, but Obama has the press.
And so Obama did a little mathematics on some of the complexities and said, wait up.
And so what's your take on the real politic going on here between the Clintons, the Bidens and the Obamas?
What's the internal war and what's your forecast?
darren j beattie
You know, one of our specialties at revolver.news is bucking the conventional wisdom and We're usually right, mate.
I don't want to say every time.
I can't think of a time that we're wrong, but I don't want to tempt fate by saying we're always right.
So I'll just say we're usually right.
Many, many, many, many months ago when, you know, it's not just in the mainstream media.
A lot of conservative media said, oh, you know, they're going to take Biden out.
They're going to replace him with Newsom or whomever.
You know, there are a number of options, Michelle Obama, whatever.
We said, wait a minute.
This is not going to happen.
This is fantasy world.
If you actually look at the strategic dilemma, the heir apparent Kamala Harris, everyone hates her.
They can't overstep Kamala without aggravating the base still further.
That's already in sense with Biden's handling of the Israeli-Palestinian Um, issue.
Um, and people forget, you know, the other dynamic, which is pretty much the main people who would be in a position to force Biden out their careers and their professional prospects are very much connected with Biden's.
So we might like to think of this fantasy world in which concepts like the greater good of the country matter to Democrats.
That's this ship has long since sailed.
and people are interested in protecting their careers and their power.
And it's not just an issue of Jill Biden and the Biden inner circle.
Even the DNC, we did a real rundown on this. It's right at the top of revolver.news right now.
The whole story about why Biden is not stepping down.
You go into the people who would have to vote Biden out and they're all appointed by Biden.
They're all loyalists.
So why would they undermine their own political authority?
And then the second thing is they need a consensus person to replace him with aside from the Kamala issue.
And the media is a phenomenal consensus making machine, but they need time and they need runway.
And it's simply too late now.
And I think you touched upon an interesting sort of meta dimension of what's going on here.
Obviously, the first order question of, you know, will Biden step down or not, that's very important to the future of the country.
But there's this meta dimension of, A very rare public display of intra-regime conflict.
In this case, conflict between the media and top Democrat officials.
You have the New York Times come out against Trump.
Basically, every Democrat commentator, sorry, come against Biden saying it's time for Biden to go.
The whole media, which is usually lockstep with the Democrats, is now saying Biden has to go.
Which is really interesting when you have the senior leadership of the Democrats saying, no, Biden's going to stay.
You have Obama.
You have the Clintons.
You have major donors like Reid Hoffman.
You have very esteemed strategist Axelrod, who came out and said basically what we argued months ago, which was, look, the time to have had this conversation about Biden stepping down was a year ago.
It's too late.
Even if they wanted to do it, it's very unlikely that they could do it without causing more harm than their Eliminating by getting rid of Biden due to the chaos and all the uncertainties and various factors that it would entail to get rid of him at this late hour, it would simply convey chaos.
So the long story short of it is in all likelihood, Biden is not going anywhere.
And with certitude, the Democrats are completely screwed.
dave brat
Yeah, I agree with you.
Let me play devil's advocate on one point of self-interest.
It does appear that a lot of the mainstream media folks, some of the younger people especially, but even the Watergate folks, just said the most horrific comments about Biden.
Why?
Why would they throw themselves in the ditch and take, that's a risky position, right?
If you're just looking out for number one, why would they go so hard against Biden immediately?
What was at play in that initial stage when they all went jumping in the ditch anti-Biden?
darren j beattie
Well, let me clarify.
When I said self-interest, I meant people within the Democratic Party that actually have authority to get rid of him.
For instance, the people with voting authority within the DNC, Biden's inner circle politically.
I didn't mean the media.
In fact, I drew attention to the fact that one interesting meta-dimension is the media has been very hostile to Biden.
And it's a rare occurrence where you see intra-regime Yeah.
tension, if not outright conflict between Democrat strategists and Democrat operatives
in the media.
And but you do raise an interesting point that deserves further elaboration.
Why is the media so aggressive now against Biden and what it is?
I wouldn't be so charitable as to say guilty conscience, but they understand that it was
their gaslighting that prevented the conversation from happening a year ago.
It was the media's gaslighting regarding Biden's health that got the Democrats into this mess in the first place.
You know, they say Assad gassed his own people.
The media, mainstream media, Gas lit their own people.
In this case, they inadvertently led the Democrats into this Very position that they're in this very unenviable position because they lied so much so aggressively about Biden's health that the Democrats played along and they didn't have the important conversations about getting rid of Biden a year ago when they could have actually done it.
So the media is now covering their ass by going aggressive against Biden because they know that in many ways it's their fault for putting the Democrats in this position through their gaslighting.
dave brat
Yeah, yeah.
Excellent analysis.
Dan, we'll hold you after the break for a second.
And very interesting.
I've been preparing for this show with Mo and the media folks on the team.
And if you get a chance, go back to the timestamps, right?
Immediately following the debate and then eight hours later and now.
And boy, what a circus with the mainstream media.
And that'll tell you everything you need to know about the news you're receiving at home and why you should continue to tune into the War Room and share this platform with all your friends.
You are the force that we have to have going forward.
So back...
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
maureen bannon
So you're back in the war room with the lovely Dave Brat and myself.
Clearly not Stephen K. Bannon, but baby Honey Badger.
Um...
So, Darren Beattie actually had to go, but please go check out all of his work at revolver.com, revolvernews.com, revolvernews.com.
Many great pieces.
That should be your first stop in the morning after warroom.org.
So technically, I guess, second stop.
It should be your second stop of the morning.
First, warroom.org and then Revolver News.
unidentified
Perfect.
maureen bannon
Denver, can you please play the cold open for Jeff Clark?
unidentified
and crossed him, say they're worried. Stephanie Grisham, who was the communications director,
the press secretary, communications director for chief of staff for the first lady.
steve bannon
You're not talking about people like that. That's ridiculous.
unidentified
She says that she's worried about being charged with treason.
steve bannon
Disappeared somewhere. That's absurd. I'm talking about people in positions of authority.
unidentified
For instance, Andrew McCabe, the former deputy editor, he says he might leave the country.
steve bannon
He ought to be very worried.
He's definitely going to be investigated.
So is Comey.
So is Esper.
I believe Milley will.
unidentified
Look at what happened at Milley, the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
steve bannon
Yes, because we don't know what conversations he had outside the military chain of command when he was chairman of the Joint Chiefs, when he talked to the Chinese, when he talked to Nancy Pelosi.
We have to investigate all that.
If you haven't done anything, you shouldn't worry.
jeffrey clark
Because Trump and you are talking about retribution.
steve bannon
It's not retribution at all.
Wait, wait, wait.
jeffrey clark
Those were his words, not my words.
steve bannon
I am your retribution.
And what he says by retribution, he said, like he said last night at the debate stage, his retribution is a very successful, more successful second term.
What we're saying is we want justice.
We want to have full investigations, and then if criminal charges come up, then criminal charges come up.
unidentified
I mean, you made a promise on your show that the Attorney General will be in prison.
100%.
jeffrey clark
So you're not just talking about investigation.
steve bannon
Is Bill Barr on the retribution list?
I think Bill Barr has to be investigated.
Not retribution.
You keep talking retribution.
jeffrey clark
Because Trump said retribution.
steve bannon
And you said retribution.
It's justice.
So Bill Barr needs to be investigated?
Bill Barr needs to go to prison with Merrick Garland?
I didn't say that.
Well, I'm asking you.
I didn't say that.
We have to see.
I'm not going to prejudge somebody.
We have to see.
jeffrey clark
So Bill Barr could be going to prison?
steve bannon
As part of this retribution campaign.
That's not retribution.
nicolle wallace
It's justice.
...6-3 majority of the court, half of them appointed by ex-president Donald Trump, two others having faced calls for their recusal in this very case.
Delta potentially fatal blow to special counsel Jack Smith's effort to hold the ex-president accountable for crimes committed on January 6th at the insurrection and his plot to overturn the 2020 election he lost.
They ruled that Donald Trump and all future presidents are entitled to immunity for official acts that they take during their presidency.
To the now infamous question of whether a president can order SEAL Team 6 to assassinate a political rival, the United States Supreme Court said in effect, Yeah, maybe.
Mark Elias, we should pull the curtain back on what's actually happening, shouldn't we?
People are exploring options to live in other countries if they think they could be targeted for prosecution by Donald Trump because targeting you or targeting me or targeting Andrew would be an official act based on today's decision.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, they could target for criminal prosecution, they could target for administrative investigation, the IRS, the SEC, the EPA.
Under this opinion, they could even, you know, engage in physical violence or assassination.
And all of that is terribly, terribly troubling in the abstract.
But Nicole, we're not in the abstract.
We're in the reality.
And the reality is that Donald Trump has said that if he is elected, he will seek retribution.
He has said that if he is reelected, he will be a dictator for at least a day.
And there is a team of MAGA extremists who are working on something called Project 2025 and related things to execute and make much more effective Donald Trump's retribution.
If and when he gets into office.
This will not be Nixon's enemies list of a few hundred.
This will be Donald Trump's enemies list of several tens of thousands.
And the federal government will be his tool from start to finish.
dave brat
Hey, Jeff Clark.
Welcome to the War Room.
Mo Bannon and Dave Bradt sitting in with Stephen K. Bannon.
I will always say that because I can just picture him being right in the room with us.
That's the kind of guy he is.
I can hear his voice when I mess up.
I know it's coming my way.
It's always fun to be with him in a room.
So Jeff, why don't you just start off and just react to the clip you just saw and then I got a couple other questions I want to pursue as well.
Fire away.
jeffrey clark
Sure.
Well, thanks, Dave, and thanks to Maureen for having me on.
Look, it's a sad day to be joining you under these circumstances with Maureen's dad being jailed.
And look, I would say, Dave, they got the debonair Dave Brat, the man in white contrasting with Steve Bannon, the man in black like Johnny Cash, and the lovely Maureen Bannon.
I'll write your intro for you next time.
Thanks, brother.
You need to get this clip that just aired this afternoon for a cold open maybe for tomorrow's show of Bill Barr laughing, yucking it up with Neil Cavuto about Steve Bannon being sent to prison with Barr saying, well, I'm not losing any sleep over it with a big grin on his face.
Remarkable.
And to think that the former Attorney General is gleeful that someone is going to jail, especially someone who was a top advisor to the President that selected him and whom he purported to serve, is really just breathtaking.
So, look, we're seeing a big meltdown, obviously, in the mainstream media, so-called, about the immunity decision from the Supreme Court.
But I'm here to tell you that they're worried for themselves.
They're worried because, you know, they think that they're going to be investigated.
And the Supreme Court says very clearly in this opinion that the President has take-care clause power under Article 2 of the Constitution.
He can investigate whom he sees fit to investigate, working with the Justice Department, and he can prosecute whom he sees fit to prosecute.
This is like the shot heard well around the world for the deep state, for the administrative state,
because they thought that they had set up this cozy apparatus where a Justice Department
occupied principally by career officials who were largely Democrats, like 90% plus,
those were the only ones who controlled those decisions.
And now that the Supreme Court has reminded them that the President of the United States
actually controls those decisions, you can tell that they're not just big mad,
they are big, hopping nervous.
And they're concocting all these totally off-base hypotheticals,
hypotheticals like the SEAL Team Six hypothetical.
like the SEAL Team Six hypothetical.
No one's talking about that.
No one's talking about that.
We had four years of President Trump, a prosperity of order under law,
We had four years of President Trump, of prosperity, of order under law,
of a lot more respect for the Constitution than we've seen from this president
unidentified
of a lot more respect for the Constitution And they're concocting all these totally off-base
jeffrey clark
who will censor at the drop of a hat, who will impose COVID mandates,
telling people they're gonna lose their jobs unless they knuckle under to his policies.
It's totally absurd to imagine them talking about all of this authoritarianism.
To them, authoritarianism just means ideas that are more consistent with the Constitution
that they disagree with.
And no one is talking about SEAL Team Sixing President Biden or Kamala Harris or even Mark Elias.
It's totally ridiculous.
It's the only thing they have.
They're throwing this ridiculous crap at the wall.
And it's a long set of opinions.
It's, you know, a total of 119 pages.
But, you know, for anyone in the war room and the war room audience is steeled, you know, they should read it if they can.
That's, I would give them, task them with is their constitutional duty.
And they're not going to find this insanity in the pages of the actual majority opinion by Chief Justice Roberts.
dave brat
Yeah, yeah.
Let me ask you that quick.
I'm not going to dignify the SEAL team analogy, metaphor, whatever it is.
But in history, RFK Jr.
has come out with real world claims about his uncle's death, his father's death, etc.
And it seems to me President Trump in the war room and the questioning of this, of the Trumanites, right, the three letter agencies is new.
And so in my mind, there was no new law was made.
It's just that finally, some of these national catastrophes, you know, we've had probably 60 or 70 coups that the American people did not know about either.
Number one in Ukraine, right?
We'll save that conversation for another day, but 14 coup d'etat U.S.
led, right?
And so now the America First project is to let the American people know about this.
And so all that's a long-winded way of saying, do you think any new law was made or you just think this is the first time the Supreme Court had to explicitly come out and answer that question about immunity for a president?
jeffrey clark
So Dave, the Supreme Court majority opinion is just expositing the Framers Constitution.
It's just that to these folks like, you know, Nicole Wallace, you know, the actual Constitution and its structure, and its structure is as important as its text.
Is new.
It's shocking.
It's, it's, can you believe that people still believe these things from the 18th century?
Yes, we do.
Yes.
There was a whole generation and plus of lawyers who were ignited, who returned to the document and returned to the founding papers like the Federalist Papers and they imbibed this.
And now, you know, they are setting out that logic.
What we've had is a period of non-constitutionalism, of post-constitutionalism, That started in the progressive era, really, but really got going in the New Deal.
And then in the post-Nixon era, when they thought the president was weak, they really pounced.
And now we're just returning to those things.
Now look, given what had been ruled by the Supreme Court before, namely that presidents
had civil immunity from liability to the outer perimeter of their official acts, this is
a new ruling because this is saying there's also criminal immunity and it is absolute
criminal immunity for core constitutional powers and that's not just powers the president
under the text of the Constitution and its structure, but also delegated powers that Congress passes
and gives to the president.
It's very clear the Supreme Court's also saying there's absolute immunity for that.
And then there's qualified immunity, there's presumptive immunity, I should say,
for any other kind of official act the president engages in.
That's new, the framework is new, but the logic and the exposition of the Constitution is old.
unidentified
We're gonna hit him.
dave brat
Very good.
Hey Jeff, we're gonna hit a break and we'll be right back with you in two seconds.
and stay tuned to War Room.
unidentified
War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
dave brat
Back in the War Room with Dave Brat and co-hosting with Maureen Bannon.
We still have Jeff Clark is in the middle of giving us some added clarity on all the Supreme Court decisions, particularly immunity that came out today, 6-3 decision, Supreme Court.
Widely anticipated, but no one knew for sure.
And so we've been knocking down some of the straw men that we anticipate.
Surely the mainstream media is going to draw a contrast between official and unofficial acts.
And so, Jeff, when the president was given this speech out on J6, can you anticipate the way the media is going to pounce on that and what the legal response will be to that and the facts, the objective facts on the ground?
jeffrey clark
Sure, Dave.
So look, the president obviously went out in a very famous speech which the January
6th committee cherry-picked, edited constantly, ignoring that he suggested to people that
they should peacefully and patriotically march down to the Capitol and let their views be
known that they had objections about the 2020 election.
And they're going to try to say, well, that's equivalent to campaign rhetoric and campaigning,
and therefore it is an unofficial act, and therefore it falls into the third of the three
tiers the Supreme Court enunciated today, and therefore it's not subject to immunity,
and therefore Jack Smith can continue with his prosecution of it.
But I'm here to say I think that's all wet.
But I'm here to say I think that's all wet.
Look, the president was in office on January 6th of 2021.
Look, the president was in office on January 6th of 2021.
He gave a speech with Secret Service protection.
He gave a speech with Secret Service protection.
He expressed himself on serious matters of public concern.
That's clearly an official act.
And look, this is exactly the longstanding position of the US Justice Department.
And it's not just the longstanding position in the Trump administration.
This same issue came up when people like George Conway and Molly Jong Fass and Reid Hoffman
ginned up E. Jean Carroll to sue.
And then they financed that lawsuit against Trump for this like Bergdorf-Goodman supposed
incident that happened long, long ago.
And we took the position when President Trump was asked about that at a press conference
that that was an official act.
Because the president, you know, he has to be able to defend himself if he's asked in
the course of his duties and doing press conferences as part of his duties what he thinks about
something, whatever he says is protected and is part of those official duties.
January 6th is no different.
And under the Supreme Court's new three-part rubric of absolute immunity for things that are constitutionally delegated or delegated by law under the Take Care Clause, then a middle area of other official acts, and then the third tier of unofficial acts, this falls into the middle tier of it being an official act, giving a speech, on a matter of public concern and therefore it should be
presumptively immune.
And I see no reason to say it should not get full immunity after that
because of the fact that it's just the president using his own free speech rights and suggesting
to the public that they can exercise their first amendment petition clause rights to go down to
Congress and let them know what they think peacefully and patriotically. That is all
entirely lawful and the idea that you could try to criminalize that is ridiculous.
dave brat
Right.
Good.
Hey, Jeff, thanks for stepping up to the plate all day today.
Please let people know how to reach you.
And while you do that, the one thing Steve Bannon requested that we all do is that we all act as a force multiplier.
Like Mo Bannon's been saying, she's going to be with us and D-block covering How everybody can take part in that so tell everybody how they can reach you and maybe give folks at home a hint what they can do to be patriots to help uphold the Constitution as we go forward in the war room.
jeffrey clark
Sure.
Well, Steve, I mean, sorry, that's a psychological slip, Dave.
I wish he were here.
You can find me at Jeff Clark U.S.
on X and Getter and at Real Jeff Clark on Truth Social.
Our center is the Center for Renewing America at AmericaRenewing.com.
And look, you can also follow us on Citizens for Renewing America, where we have our action item to call on Congress to pass a resolution that pronounces what the January 6th Committee did as void and voids the subpoenas, including the one that's led to Steve Bannon being in prison today.
So that's the kind of force multiplier action that people can take, and I urge you to take it.
Go to CitizensForRenewingAmerica.com.
dave brat
Great, Jeff.
Stephen K. Bannon always speaks very highly of you and of your Harvard-trained legal mind, and it's just great to have such a great team going forward on The War Room.
Thanks for stepping up.
Now we're going to head over to Mark Mitchell with Rasmussen Polling.
A lot of interest after the debate The Biden bounce, Mark, we're interested not only if Biden lost some traction there and Trump got the upward bounce, but also any polling on the media you've seen.
Media credibility in the last day or so, boy, has become just a mainline issue.
And then anything else we haven't thought of.
So, Mark Mitchell, welcome to the War Room and just take it away.
mark mitchell
Yeah.
And first, let me say, just glad to be here on this historic day for war room.
What they did to Steve was inconscionable and glad we can continue to support the show.
I think it was fortuitous.
He had Darren Beatty on because he laid the logic out perfectly.
And I think, you know, I'll just follow his color by numbers and try and back it up with my polling.
But I, you know, I first think we need to acknowledge that this cycle has just been Incredible, really mind blower from a public opinion perspective.
We're talking about, you know, the weaponization of government, just the absolute height of media gaslighting.
And even, you know, this country might fall apart.
People are really concerned about its going concern as a republic.
And we've got the biggest number of people who think there's going to be a civil war than ever, 41 percent.
You know, a lot's happened in the last two months.
I think you can look back on the two big events, the guilty verdict and this horrible debate.
And, you know, we can go into the details.
We have one night of approval back.
We have one night of the post debate review back.
And also just, you know, media numbers that are horrible and I think getting worse.
But I think the big thing to step back first and take a look at.
Is where were the Democrats two months ago in the middle of May and where are they now?
Back in the middle of May, you know, they had Biden come out for the State of the Union and everybody said, this is it.
He sealed the deal.
It didn't work.
In the middle of May, his approval rating was 40 percent.
Donald Trump was beating him by 10 points.
The economy was imploding.
Democrat approval of Joe Biden was like 67%.
And the polling showed that there were no good replacement options.
And the truth is, we basically round-tripped to that.
Trump had a little bit of a hiccup after the guilty verdict.
Joe Biden's approval shot up to 45%.
Donald Trump's lead in our polling went from 10 points down to 5 points.
But in our latest matchup, he regained all that.
Trump's back up to plus nine.
Joe Biden's still sitting at a 44% approval rating, but based on where, looking at the numbers, I think he's going right back down to 40.
And there they are with the president.
Yeah.
dave brat
Yeah, very good.
And give everybody listening, Trump plus nine with who?
With what voters?
Go over that in slow motion.
mark mitchell
Yeah, that was our latest matchup from, I believe it was a week and a half ago.
And Trump was beating Biden in a head to head by nine points, 49% Trump to 40% Biden.
And then in a multi-way matchup, Trump got up to 10 points.
That's the one that Trump put it on his truth social feed and gave us some credit for.
But that's from our perspective, he's been from five to 10 points basically all of the time since November.
So I think it's fair to say that he is.
Comfortably beating Biden now and after that debate showing and again, I'll get right into the numbers.
I think that the Trump campaign should now focus on not whether or not they're going to win, but how they're going to win.
But, you know, going into the debate, voters told us that they thought Trump was most likely to win, but it was only 47% to 37%.
But running through these numbers and again, this is just one night back out of three nights We'll have these numbers released in full later the week But bad news for Joe Biden, almost 70% of voters say they watched most of the debate or all of the debate.
It's up to 88% of voters who watched at least some of the debate.
And then who was the winner?
unidentified
Wow.
dave brat
Joe Biden, 21%.
mark mitchell
Donald Trump, 56%.
Biden 21%, Donald Trump 56%.
So that's like, you know, a 25 point pickup for Donald Trump driven by
Joe Biden's horrible performance.
Democrats, only 46% of Democrats say Biden won.
And again, a lot of Democrats didn't watch the debate.
They watched it less than anybody else.
And 24% of Democrats actually say Donald Trump won.
With Republicans, it's Trump, 85% to 6% for Biden.
And independents, 63% of independents say Trump won.
8% say Joe Biden won, and that's the trend we've been seeing with approval too.
unidentified
Wow.
mark mitchell
Wow.
With one night of approval data back, you know, independence got up to 42% post verdict.
They're back down to 34% now after the debate.
And for the very first time, we had an overnight right direction wrong track print below 30
at 28%, the lowest number we've had in two months.
So we've basically round tripped to the horrible situation the Democrats were in in May.
And I think, you know, in a week or two, we may find that Joe Biden might get into the upper 30s with approval and maybe we'll see a low double digit lead for Donald Trump.
I really don't know.
It's in how divided this nation is, like maybe he's maxed out, but they should be focusing on how to win down ballot now, to be honest, because that's where the Republicans problem are.
Everybody tells us that inflation in the economy are the biggest issues.
We got one night back on that, too.
And Republicans win on the issue of trust on inflation by a 15 point margin.
But Donald Trump's only winning by 10 points.
But in the generic ballot race, Republicans are only winning by five.
So they have the right platform for the right issue set.
Donald Trump is winning massively.
Now it's time to work on that machine.
dave brat
Yeah, great.
Thank you, Mark.
And we got a couple minutes left.
And any polling or any gut feel on the performance of the mainstream media in particular?
Just the gyrations, the 180 degree turns within a day.
First, everyone's Biden's got to go and then they're circling the wagons within about eight hours.
Any polling that reflects credibility there?
mark mitchell
Yeah, I think media is one of the two biggest wild cards from a public opinion perspective.
You know, one is the fundraising that Trump got from the guilty verdict and what might be a disparity in fundraising.
You know, he brought in hundreds of millions of dollars that will go to ads and he wouldn't have had otherwise.
The other is just this, you know, the media has been utterly exposed.
is absolutely gaslighting. People knew the media was bad. I mean, we pull on it all the time. We
have a majority of Americans agreeing that media is the enemy of the people. But check this out.
Even going into the debate, we had 60 percent of voters said at least somewhat likely, 46 percent
likely, said that news media are helping cover up evidence.
of President Biden's declining mental sharpness.
And now these numbers here are unreleased as of yet, but is the problem of media bias getting better or worse?
Only 9% of voters say better, 61% say worse.
I think that's an absolute record.
We've never seen the numbers that bad.
Democrats, it's 45% worse to 14% better.
Independents, 67% to 4%.
That is astounding.
And we actually even, you know, this is a sentiment I've heard probably a couple times on war room as well.
Do you agree or disagree with this statement?
No matter how much you hate the media, it's not enough.
And we have a plurality of Americans agreeing with that 45%.
unidentified
Yeah.
mark mitchell
Right.
28% and a majority of Republicans, 43% of independents.
So I don't know how that's gonna play out.
They kind of got exposed.
I don't know if they got talking points Thursday night or they all just thought,
well, there's no way we can cover Biden up after this.
And now they're trying to ratchet it back, but people are just gonna increasingly stop watching them.
And that's gonna drive a change in public opinion.
dave brat
Yeah.
Outstanding analysis, Mark Mitchell.
You're a favorite in the War Room.
Thanks for being with us today.
Thanks for going through all the questions our folks want to know.
We're back in the D-Block with Mo Bannon.
Stay tuned to The War Room for how you can be a force.
unidentified
Stephen K. Bannon.
maureen bannon
So you're actually in The War Room with Maureen E. Bannon, not Stephen K. Bannon.
Steve Stern, how do we get the posse to be force multipliers and be active?
steve stern
So always say, and Steve Bannon says this, always say success of the country depends on you.
So we need you to step up.
We're looking at our new shirt here, Stand with Steve.
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After the 10,000 are gone, they'll go from black to white.
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And also, we have a big call on July 8th at 3 o'clock where Maureen will be speaking and asking people to get involved.
We're going to have Greg Phillips, Catherine Engelbrecht, Dan Schultz, Carlos Santos, Greg Stentrum, Heather Honey, Linda Rents, Dr. Rick Richards.
This will be the last one before I go on vacation.
Maureen, I'm actually going to take a vacation.
So get that shirt.
We want to sell 10,000.
maureen bannon
What?
You're going to take a vacation?
steve stern
Well, I need a vacation.
You know, I'm 80, 70 years in business.
I've been working a year straight and I need to get revived.
Steven asked me to get back together again and get everybody out voting, get everybody to Be a force multiplier.
We know what that means.
And the only way I'm going to do that, I need a few days vacation.
So I'm going to Europe for a couple of days, for about a week to 10 days, and I'll be back with action, action, action.
So I want the posse, you know, they did a terrific job on the flag shirt.
We're still shipping tomorrow.
You can get it overnight mail.
Go to theflagshirt.com.
Remember 4th of July is coming up.
I wish we had our shirt for Steve for then, but we don't.
But you can get in touch with me.
We want you on that meeting.
We want you on 4th of July.
Enjoy our country.
maureen bannon
Steve, once again, you said 10,000 shirts.
So if the posse misses those 10,000, they're still able to get the shirts, just a different color in white.
Once again, it's StandWithBannon.com.
And how quickly can the posse get those shirts?
steve stern
About 10 days and you know we're the official supporter of Steve Bannon with this shirt we've been working on for a while and we're sorry he's where he is but I know his voice will be heard by everybody and Being a false multiply means get one person to watch the war room in his absence so we can double the viewership and we can let everybody know to get involved.
So I always end up with action, action, action.
And my buddy is coming on.
We love him.
So sell a lot of pillows, sell a lot of towels because I love his towels.
maureen bannon
Amen, Steve.
Thank you for joining us.
Mike Lindell, what deals do you have for the posse?
mike lindell
Well, I made a promise to Steve yesterday.
We were on the phone, everybody, for quite a while.
And I said, you know what?
He said, Mike, just keep the War Room Posse.
Keep my pillow going so you can support not only this show.
You guys realize the War Room Posse, my pillow, we help sponsor the show.
And you guys support us.
So here's what we're doing.
You get the 4th of July.
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This is where MyPillow all started.
We make them 100% the USA in 1998, King or Queen, as many as you want, using the promo code WARROOM.
And also today, I'm going to show you this pillow here.
We want people to get involved.
With Steve in there right now, this is a political prisoner special.
You guys get one of these free, no purchase necessary.
I want you to get to the website MyPillow.com, go down to see a Steve's face, go in there and shop around.
If you decide not to buy anything today, at least you're going to get a part of this, you're going to get a free, the free USA Revival Roll and Go MyPillow.
There you see it, there's the special, the 4th of July special, and right in the middle, you guys, is that MyPillow mattress topper special.
This was a War Worm exclusive preview.
The queen size $149.98, king $198.98, but you get a free set of percale towels with that.
If you don't like the topper for any reason, you return it, you get to keep the sheets.
We have a 10-year warranty on this topper, you guys.
Everything we make at MyPillow.
We make it to last and we make it to work.
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All these specials, we're going to keep going while Steve's there.
And you guys, we can't thank you enough at MyPillow for the support.
We thank the War Room Posse.
We thank Steve for supporting MyPillow and keeping us going on this show while we were in The last nine months, the biggest attack on a company ever.
And now Steve in the War Room, you guys can, you War Room Posse, you can help support the War Room and MyPill at the same time.
Plus get the best products in history.
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These are all my home reps that work from home, and they work on commission, too.
This is a win-win-win-win, everybody.
Let's make this the biggest day in MyPillow's history for the War Room.
And we can talk about it tomorrow.
The biggest day when Steve went in that we could show the support.
This is a political prisoner, and what a week it is.
We're having a Fourth of July.
Steve founded the Megan movement, as far as I'm seeing, with all the plans he had and stuff.
I've seen all that, Maureen, and looking back, your dad is just one of the biggest patriots this country has ever seen.
maureen bannon
Thank you, Mike, and thank you for your support.
And War Room Posse, like Mike Lindell and Steve Stern said, you have to get involved.
So you need to go to warroom.org, read the articles that we're posting, watch the show, push it out to all of your friends.
Make sure that even your friends that don't watch the show, encourage them to open their eyes and watch the show.
You can also go to us on Instagram at Bannon's War Room, Getter at War Room, and also my dad will, there'll still be stuff up on his page, and I just want to say, the left, you think you're going to silence War Room by throwing my dad in prison?
You will not silence War Room.
We will never be silenced.
His voice will be heard even from behind bars.
You will not silence Steve Bannon.
You will not silence War Room.
We will be heard.
dave brat
Way to go, Mo.
Way to go.
God bless.
maureen bannon
Thank you.
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