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is is that love it or hate it he would come in as one of the most powerful | |
figures and he would he would stress test it immediately they have very | ||
specific plans this is not the haphazard Trump that we covered in 2017 this is a | ||
much more organized operation at least the people in the institutions around | ||
him so it was gobsmacking when the Supreme Court took it up but I remember | ||
talking to you that day and in my glass half empty kind of way I thought well | ||
the worst even under the worst case scenario it's not like they're going to | ||
decide that he's immune It's just outrageous that they've taken it up, because this will allow for months of delay, and will effectively give him temporary immunity before the election. | ||
And once the election happens, if he wins, he makes all the prosecutions go away anyway. | ||
I really did not expect that they would do this. | ||
Donald Trump and his counsel asked for this 100% absolute immunity thing, which was insane. | ||
I would say they got 105% of what they were asking for. | ||
They got immunity from this court, despite some of the language in Justice Roberts' The ruling saying that there was some measure of humility or some measure of restraint. | ||
The practical impact of what they have done is to give Trump immunity that even he and his counsel did not ask for. | ||
And given that the hypotheticals over the course of these arguments, as you rightly pointed out, included things like, can the president assassinate a rival? | ||
I think we have to look at the Supreme Court's affirmative answer to that. | ||
Yes, you can. | ||
Um, with as much seriousness as it deserves. | ||
I mean, this is a death squad ruling. | ||
This is a ruling that says that as long as you can construe it as an official or quasi-official act, you can do absolutely anything. | ||
Absolutely anything. | ||
And never be held accountable, not only while you are president, but forever. | ||
And this is a president who has activated pro-Trump paramilitary groups that, you know, wear insignia and t-shirts and hold placards celebrating literally right-wing death squads, right? | ||
This is a president who has talked about absolutely using the Justice Department to go after his rivals. | ||
This explicitly immunizes anything the president wants to do through the Justice Department, | ||
but all but explicitly justifies anything the president wants to do full stop to anyone. | ||
And that is as serious as it gets. | ||
Yeah, I mean, I think he said this publicly a thousand times, to Nicole's point. | ||
And I was reading today, if anybody's following along, on the lovely Project 2025 plan on page... | ||
This is the first line of that part. | ||
The next conservative administration should embrace the Constitution and understand the obligation of the executive branch to use its independent resources and authorities to restrain the excesses of both the legislative and judicial branches. | ||
This is the plan that Steve Bannon has been holding up in his recent interviews before he went to jail today, of course, to say, this is what we're going to do. | ||
And the justices, what they did today is basically, and I work for two presidents, Nicole worked for a president, you haven't needed this immunity in the past. | ||
There have been bad things that have happened under presidents. | ||
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I'm not, but like they haven't, they've done the bad things. | |
Even without! | ||
Nobody's walking around waiting for the immunity. | ||
The presidents I worked for didn't wait, didn't meet, didn't look for the immunity. | ||
And now you have the person, so you're asking the American public, to Rachel's point, to vote for people and trust the presidents they elect will have the morality and the benevolence to not abuse. | ||
That's essentially what they're doing. | ||
You're all much smarter than me. | ||
The political person in me wanted him to deal with the elephant in the room, which it was what happened Thursday night. | ||
And I think when he talked about Washington, he should have said, I should know I was there. | ||
I mean, every opportunity has to be viewed through a political lens if we all agree with what Rachel Maddow said at the beginning of the hour, and I think we do. | ||
The only way to protect the country from the Supreme Court is to make sure that Donald Trump is never president again. | ||
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That's it. | |
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
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It's going to happen. | |
And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | |
Morning, War Room. | ||
Dave Brat sitting in with Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
July 2, Year of Our Lord 2024. | ||
I say sitting in with Stephen K. Bannon for a reason. | ||
No one sits in for him. | ||
He is a legend. | ||
He's a friend. | ||
He's a leader of this great movement that we're all fighting for. | ||
We all need you to stay tuned to this show and to spread this show with your friends right now. | ||
If you can share this show with one friend right now, we've just doubled the following of the war room. | ||
And that's what Steve wanted us to do. | ||
He said no letters, no crying in the war room, no sympathy notes, even though you got good hearts out there. | ||
He wants you to fight the fight that we've entered. | ||
And that set up with Rachel Maddow and Chris Hayes and everybody. | ||
We're going to spend, we have a packed show. | ||
It's packed, packed, packed as usual. | ||
We got Mark Paoletti coming on, Caroline Wren, Mike Howell, Kevin Roberts with Heritage Foundation, Ben Harnwell, Jim Jordan will be joining us at 11.30 etc. | ||
We're going to be dealing with the immunity case, largely the Supreme Court decisions, how this affects you. | ||
And, you know, Steve never likes us talking about him personally. | ||
And so I never do it. | ||
But today, you know, I'm going to take an exception because we all love him. | ||
And we had Mo on yesterday. | ||
And so, you know, the left is bemoaning this takeover of immunity, and Trump and the MAGA is going to extend power beyond the rule of law. | ||
They have no evidence for any of that. | ||
But, you know, like Paul Harvey used to say, it's time for the rest of the story. | ||
What they leave out of their neat little narrative It's going way back. | ||
President Trump and the administration didn't do any of the stuff they're talking about. | ||
They made all the threats about it, right? | ||
And back then it was the Uniparty and the Republicans, and I was there in the House, squawking about everything that Trump was going to do and wars and whatever. | ||
And in fact, we had peace and prosperity for four years until the Chinese exported their coronavirus. | ||
And then Not only did the Trump administration not exhibit any of this overreach, then the left did. | ||
And Mark Paoletta and I are going to do a deep dive on that right now. | ||
But what they miss is Peter Navarro and Stephen K. Bannon are in jail today. | ||
And President Trump could go to jail on July 12. | ||
This is not theoretical. | ||
These are not niceties. | ||
These are facts. | ||
They're leaving out their Justice Department, which was highly coordinated. | ||
All of that's been covered by Steve on the show in the past months. | ||
You could do a dive on all that. | ||
That Justice Department coordinated attack. | ||
All of these things are timed miraculously so that the chief spokesman, Stephen K. Bannon, for President Trump, is in jail precisely four months before the election, right up to the election. | ||
The chief architect of changing the structure of the U.S. | ||
economy, particularly with respect to China, is Peter Navarro. | ||
He's conveniently in jail. | ||
President Trump's convictions, all this stuff goes back years and years and years. | ||
The statute of limitations ran out on some of it. | ||
He's up right before the election. | ||
You've got to be kidding me. | ||
These are from the news, the major news networks of our day, the major spokespeople. | ||
I think the reason Steve put me in this seat for the first couple days is just because I'm friends with a lot of the War Room posse out there, and I'm friends with a lot of folks here, and he knows I have a hard time lying, right? | ||
I'm looking you in the face in the camera. | ||
And I pledge to you always, right up there, is the sign of the cross, and every day I think I'll open up Steve's Catholic in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. | ||
Everything I say on this show will fall underneath that, right? | ||
Everything else in this world is under that God's order. | ||
And so I pledge to tell you the truth, bring out people who only tell the truth, and we're going to call out lies as we see them from the folks who are telling lies. | ||
And so, Mark Paoletta, it's an honor to have you in. | ||
I have one joke. | ||
I got all the notes from you guys yesterday. | ||
Hey, Dave, nice suit. | ||
Hey, it'd help if you look in the camera. | ||
Quit looking off at the monitor. | ||
I'm looking at the monitor because Paoletta's pretty face up there. | ||
This ain't easy, right? | ||
If you want a professional politician, hire one. | ||
Nah, I'm just joking, right? | ||
A little humor for the posse. | ||
And so I'm a populist, so bear with me as I learn the ropes. | ||
But Mark, if you want to respond to that clip and then any notes you have on immunity and then broader commentary on the Supreme Court decisions this week, fire away. | ||
Mark, pay a letter. | ||
Dave, thanks for having me on. | ||
It was a great day for President Trump with the immunity decision yesterday, but even a greater day for the U.S. | ||
constitution in our country and the protection of our liberties and a strong chief executive. | ||
The clip you started off with just shows you this alternative universe that the left lives | ||
in. | ||
And their projection too, right? | ||
They're the ones who have weaponized the law. | ||
They're the ones who have gone after, right? | ||
This kind of Stalinist, give me the man, I'll show you the crime, right? | ||
Bannon, Navarro, President Trump, right? | ||
Using the law, right? | ||
It's unprecedented to go after the presidents. | ||
The Supreme Court hasn't had to deal With this issue that came before them as Chief Justice Roberts says in our entire history because nobody's done it before and there's been lots of presidents | ||
You know, somebody could have prosecuted President Clinton, right, for when he was going through his impeachment and his travails by bombing another country. | ||
I mean, these things don't happen. | ||
That is clearly within the president's constitutional authority. | ||
You cannot question presidents and what they do. | ||
What the Supreme Court did yesterday, though, in terms of just keeping that at a high level, it said, yes, for official acts, court official acts, the president is absolutely immune. | ||
For the rest of these acts within his official powers, it's going to be presumptive. | ||
But they put up a really, really high bar for you to be able to get at that. | ||
So it was, to me, the court doing this specifically. | ||
And one of the charges was this idea of the president literally talking to his Department | ||
The court said that's absolutely immune, as it should be, and then the rest of it gets kicked back down to the lower courts to do some fact-finding. | ||
But again, this should have never been at the Supreme Court. | ||
This should have never been, you know, this entire prosecution. | ||
And the interesting too, not to get too legal here, but Justice Thomas's concurrence in the case yesterday basically said that there's a serious issue whether Jack Smith's appointment is even constitutional. | ||
Because he was appointed by the Attorney General, not the President of the United States, as the Constitution requires. | ||
And Congress needs to make an office for which to have a prosecutor. | ||
And so that is actually down before Judge Cannon in Florida. | ||
And she could actually rule on that and wipe out the entire Jack Smith prosecution. | ||
So that may be the sleeper issue coming out of this. | ||
But going back to the Democrats and their projection, they are the ones, it's Joe Biden who literally said on the campaign trail, The Supreme Court tried to stop me, right? | ||
The Supreme Court struck down his wholesale takeover of student loans and trying to cancel them. | ||
Absolutely illegal, absolutely unconstitutional. | ||
The Supreme Court ruled that's unconstitutional. | ||
What did Biden say? | ||
He came back, did it again in some different way, but said the Supreme Court tried to stop me and I'm going forward. | ||
And I think he just did it again. | ||
The two lower court judges ruled his new plan, you know, whatever, put an injunction on it | ||
because it looks seriously unconstitutional. | ||
And he did something again in reaction to that. | ||
So he is the lawless president. | ||
The Obama administration had their OLC right and opinion that the president could unilaterally | ||
declare the Senate in recess. | ||
OK. | ||
And if you remember this, Obama then appointed, recess appointed, a number of appointees to what's called the National Labor Relations Board. | ||
They issued 1500 opinions, I think, that were all kind of left wing. | ||
And the Supreme Court ruled nine to zero that that was unconstitutional. | ||
So when you talk about lawyers and using your lawyers as a way to act lawlessly, it's the Obama and Biden administration that have led the charge on this. | ||
You know, President Trump came into power, right? | ||
And he said he wasn't going to go after Hillary Clinton, right? | ||
You know, she's the one who destroyed records. | ||
She's the one who weaponized the Department of Justice and helped them go after President Trump. | ||
Clearly, serious, you know, illegal conduct. | ||
But President Trump said, you know what, we're going to look forward and we're going to make America great again, which is what he did. | ||
Right, exactly. | ||
Exactly. | ||
Mark, thank you very much. | ||
We're going to hold you over the break for a minute. | ||
I just want to thank you. | ||
First of all, everyone can look at you as a truth teller. | ||
You can just look in your face. | ||
Thanks for the historical memory there. | ||
Thanks for recalling who, in fact, has been skiing out of the lines. | ||
And we're going to be back with The War Room right after this break. | ||
Got more with Mark Paoletta. | ||
Thank you, brother. | ||
Absolutely frightening and absolutely could happen because as you said he came in haphazardly. | ||
Donald Trump didn't even know he was going to win. | ||
It was one day out of an entire year where everything fell into place and he won the presidency and they were at the last minute like writing a victory speech. | ||
You know, scrambling. | ||
That's not the case this time. | ||
That means every single person that is going to be around him, they're going to plan for that person to make sure that they take the oath. | ||
Can you explain how if Donald Trump even slightly pushes the envelope on this, which we know he will totally push the envelope, what this could look like in terms of, I mean, there are not going to be people around him who say, listen, I don't have immunity, I can't do that. | ||
That's not going to be the reality. | ||
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At all. | |
And the way that you described him coming into office before is accurate. | ||
He didn't think he'd win. | ||
He surrounded himself with people that he thought looked the part and might be good at the job that turned out to be restraints on his power. | ||
The lesson he learned from that is get rid of all restraints. | ||
Make sure you only have loyalists working for you in the cabinet level, inside the White House, but also in the bowels of government. | ||
All right. | ||
sure that anybody like a McConnell, a Liz Cheney, a Paul Ryan, anybody who has | ||
institutional power that could thwart you, get rid of them. | ||
They're gone. All of them. There's gonna be no person in a position of power in | ||
Congress, especially if Republicans win the majority in the House or Senate, who | ||
you would say is a Trump critic that would put the brakes on the work that he | ||
would do. He's not gonna have any of those people around him. Before, there's | ||
people in... | ||
I can't take it anymore. | ||
It's too much to bear. | ||
Let me respond to Morning Meek in this threat to democracy with some facts. | ||
In an unprecedented move, the Biden administration's Justice Department has shattered a 250-year tradition of honoring executive privilege by imprisoning two former Trump advisers, Peter Navarro and now Stephen Bannon, for contempt of Congress. | ||
This action marks a significant departure from historical precedent and raises concerns about the balance of power in American governance. | ||
That act raises questions. | ||
Morning, Mika. | ||
Are you a news agency? | ||
I don't think so. | ||
We all watched you say that Biden was at the top of his cognitive game with Joe for the last months. | ||
And then a pivot, a pivot away from President Biden. | ||
All political views are my own. | ||
I'm just covering the news and trying to tell the truth. | ||
A pivot away from President Biden. | ||
Then eight hours later, the Obama folks got out their pencils, found out a few inconvenient facts that we're going to cover later in this hour about money that can't be shared and about states which may be too late to move on. | ||
And so now everybody's circling the wagons again. | ||
One more little piece of information. | ||
Previous administrations, including those of Obama and Bush, chose not to pursue legal | ||
action against officials like Eric Holder, Lois Lerner, Josh Bolton, Harriet Meyers, | ||
when faced with similar circumstances. | ||
So it's President Biden that has broken the 250-year legal precedent here by putting not | ||
high end, the highest end. | ||
They were in the West Wing. | ||
Stephen K. Bannon and Peter Navarro were at the president's right hand making policy. | ||
And they're now in jail. | ||
And for news agency, for you guys to skip over that little detail, for the rest of us Americans, right, this is why you're losing, right? | ||
And so the shrieks of this immunity and Trump overreach, the law, I think it's all you have to work with. | ||
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Right? | |
There's nothing left. | ||
The polling numbers are so low. | ||
It's awful. | ||
I don't see any policy debate coming our way. | ||
I wish there was one because we'd like to get into those kind of things. | ||
One of the issues I ran on was the border issue, illegal immigration back then against a prominent Republican. | ||
The American people made their choice there. | ||
Now it's 20 to 30 million under an executive decision by President Biden. | ||
Not a word From the left, from the mainstream media, about the abuse and the extent of executive orders and the extension of executive power, right? | ||
Article 2. | ||
Congress is supposed to be doing all that. | ||
We have abdicated, and I put that on the unit party. | ||
And your commentary there about Republicans in the House, you know, everyone's compliant to Trump? | ||
I don't think so. | ||
We just saw a compliant House vote for a $7 trillion Nancy Pelosi budget that funded everything under the sun. | ||
It funded the advance of illegal immigration. | ||
It made it easier to do illegal immigration. | ||
It funded the woke military. | ||
It didn't do anything to save the kids in the schools. | ||
On the schools, a footnote, because I'm a professor, everybody ought to go watch the Jordan Peterson interview with the toughest schoolmaster in Great Britain, in England. | ||
Just phenomenal. | ||
That's the soul of the country. | ||
The liberals, I wish you were all liberals. | ||
You used to care about those kids. | ||
That's the marker, right? | ||
Who cares about the kids in the inner cities? | ||
And I suggest now it's this populist center that's forming that's huge and is 70% of the country. | ||
And so, Mark Palletta, why don't you close out, respond to some of those clips, some of those ideas. | ||
You're the pro in this realm, and we're just super happy to have you on with us today. | ||
Thanks Dave. | ||
They're fearful that President Trump is going to be even more effective in his second term. | ||
The American people are listening to what he's talking about. | ||
Open borders. | ||
This is the most despicable thing Joe Biden has done is to open our border to an invasion. | ||
20 million people, whatever the number is, that's come across, that they've welcomed across. | ||
President Trump being more effective in pursuing his policies is a good thing for the American people, and there will be tried and tested people coming into his administration. | ||
Their fear of an effective President Trump tells you all you need to know. | ||
Going back to this lawlessness and the lack of respect for our institution, it is the left, and you're seeing it today, Dave, right? | ||
AOC doesn't like an opinion. | ||
What she's going to impeach, she's going to introduce articles of impeachment to get rid of Supreme Court justices. | ||
I mean, this is how absurd they are. | ||
And you had, I take this lawlessness, this lack of respect for our Constitution and our country back to at least, you know, Chuck Schumer standing on the steps of the Supreme Court, telling Supreme Court justices how they have to vote on an abortion case, or in his words, You will release the whirlwind and you won't know what hit | ||
you. | ||
And I take those words as a direct through line to the assassination attempt on Justice | ||
Kavanaugh. | ||
They have unleashed holy hell on the Supreme Court because they don't like their opinions. | ||
That is what's going on today and every day. | ||
They've weaponized the Senate and all their investigations into Justice Thomas, Justice Alito, going after their wives, going after their friends. | ||
This is a holy war on the Supreme Court that the left has unleashed because they do not like their opinions. | ||
You didn't see conservatives, right, when we lost battle after battle over the past 30 years, going to attack justices' homes. | ||
and threaten their families, or engage in assassination attempts. | ||
But that's what the left does. | ||
That's what they normalize. | ||
And then they have the audacity or the delusion of claiming these things | ||
that the conservatives are gonna do. | ||
This is what the left always does. | ||
It's a projection because they are the thugs. | ||
They're the lawless party that comes after their conservative, | ||
that comes after Steve Bannon, that comes after Pete and Navarro, | ||
that comes after President Trump right now. | ||
We've never seen anything like it. | ||
At every level they come after him, right? | ||
This Alvin Bragg, you know, prosecution up in New York, the Willis prosecution down in Georgia. | ||
These are all weaponizing the law and they sit in their TV studios talking about how President Trump, He's going to do this when they're in fact in the middle of doing it. | ||
Yep. | ||
Unbelievable. | ||
Thank you, Mark Palletta. | ||
That was a just tremendous performance across the board. | ||
Mark, tell us, how do we reach you? | ||
And before we get to that, I just want to also mention elements of the unit party, the Republicans, right? | ||
All political views are my own. | ||
But, you know, One of the theses of the War Room is the globalist, the elitist, the billionaire class is in charge. | ||
And so it's a little curious that, you know, all of a sudden Obama and the forces that be, and I brought up Glennon's book yesterday, National Security and the Double Government, are now fine with President Biden staying in there. | ||
At first, we had what Steve K. Bannon called a national security crisis leading into a constitutional crisis. | ||
And so, another major element you didn't see reported by any of the mainstream media, last week it came out, Paul Ryan had the Steele dossier in 2016. | ||
The Speaker of the House on the Republican side had the Steele dossier, put committees in play to study it, to go explore it, without telling them that he had the dossier that was set up and that was the foundation for the attacks on Russia, Russia, Russia. | ||
And so, D.C. | ||
and the swamp's out of control. | ||
I think the American people get that now. | ||
They're getting educated. | ||
Everybody out there, you need to get to work spreading these truths that Mark Palletta just laid out for you very cleanly. | ||
Mark, how do people get you? | ||
Thanks, Dave, at Mark Paoletta on X. I have a website, markpaoletta.com, that's got a lot of my op-eds defending the Supreme Court and calling out the left. | ||
And I'm at the Center for Renewing America, Russ Vought's great organization that's, you know, been doing great work since we left the White House in 21. | ||
Yep, Russ Vought, American patriot, hero, great Christian man. | ||
Thanks, Mark. | ||
We're going to pivot right now to Mike Howell. | ||
Mike, are you with us? | ||
I'm here. | ||
All right. | ||
Hey, thanks for joining us, Mike. | ||
We only have about a minute, but why don't you just give us the headline news? | ||
Mike Howell with the Heritage Foundation. | ||
Drop the bombshell, and then we'll go to break and come back and discuss. | ||
Absolutely. | ||
So all these plans about getting rid of Biden and subbing someone else in are very, very complicated, okay? | ||
You got 50 states, 50 different sets of rules. | ||
We've gone through them all. | ||
Gonna get into some specific states with real big problems for them. | ||
But the point remains, even for that, in addition to transferring the large war chest of money from the Biden-Harris campaign to somebody else, to effectuate logistically such a mass change Would instantly be met with loads of litigation from yours truly. | ||
Yeah, very good. | ||
Outstanding. | ||
Yeah, Mike Howell is going to be with us, and then Kevin Roberts, the president of the Heritage Foundation, will weigh in and give us a meta-view of maybe some of the particular Supreme Court decisions over the week. | ||
But what does it all mean? | ||
He's a Christian icon, friend of mine, now the head of the Heritage Foundation, which stands for the American Constitution, drawing within the lines, following the rule of law, And he'll be with us to give the meta view of what all those Supreme Court decisions mean together. | ||
So stay tuned, spread the word right now to your friends. | ||
Stay with the war room. | ||
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Your host, Stephen K. Bound. | |
Welcome back to the war room. | ||
Dave Brat sitting in with Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
All thoughts and prayers are with him. | ||
Pray for him daily. | ||
Pray for all of us. | ||
Pray for our country. | ||
I just want to also mention one of my good friends, Charlie Gasparino, read a good piece. | ||
He's on Fox Business. | ||
He's in touch with all the billionaires. | ||
He's got a book coming out. | ||
Go woke. | ||
Go broke. | ||
Recommend that to everybody. | ||
But he had a good piece I read the other day, and a lot of the billionaire barons up on Wall Street are starting to talk about the cracks in the foundation. | ||
And so, as Stephen K. Band recommends, go take a look at Birch Gold in these times of uncertainty. | ||
It's a hedge. | ||
It's a hedge against risk in the future. | ||
The rest of the world is buying. | ||
No financial advice here on this show, but give them a call. | ||
They're good friends of mine. | ||
I've been with them personally. | ||
I like them. | ||
And so go listen to what they tell you about your portfolio and what you should be doing to guard against risky times ahead. | ||
Back with Mike Howell from Heritage Foundation. | ||
Mike, I think last week you had some great analysis showing a few states That could be problematic if they switch out Biden for another candidate. | ||
I think it was Wisconsin, Georgia, Arizona. | ||
But why don't you give us a minute or two on that and a couple minutes on the money, and then we'll go to the boss. | ||
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Right. | |
So 50 different states, 50 different sets of rules. | ||
Think of this as what happens at the convention is completely different from ballot access issues, which are the state laws and rules procedures that govern this. | ||
And so some states like Nevada, for example, they need to have the name by the fourth Friday of July. | ||
In Maine, if there's going to be a withdrawal, it's got to be by the second Monday. | ||
If it's a substitution, by the fourth Monday. | ||
In Texas, you got to have it all wrapped up 71 days out of the election. | ||
And so there are these varying timelines. | ||
But what makes matters very interesting is there's also different kind of requirements to do this in some states. | ||
Some states are more specific than others. | ||
Some states require a finding of complete incapacity of the president, and so think about what that would entail. | ||
It'd be politically very difficult for this administration, not only the president himself | ||
to admit that he's completely incapacitated, but think of all the officials who have in | ||
public statements or official statements, uh, attested to his capacity and been in on | ||
this lie. | ||
It would be a house of cards that would fall and take down a lot of people with it to include | ||
a lot of the regime, press and scribes that have been pushing this lie on the American | ||
people. | ||
And so for that political reason, it's very complicated to even get to the incapacity | ||
fighting, and that's really the least of their problems. | ||
Every day that goes on, it gets harder and harder for them to make this switch. | ||
That is why, right now, the only three people in the world, I think, fighting to keep President Biden, you know, on the ballot are him, Jill, and the oversight practice at the Heritage Foundation, because we don't think you can just make up the election rules as you go. | ||
He's their candidate. | ||
You know, you dance with the girl that you brought to prom. | ||
It's not our fault they tried to hide his accelerating decline from the American people. | ||
Yeah, thanks Mike. | ||
And what you alluded to, some money issues too. | ||
I think I read that the Biden-Harris pact is a joint pact. | ||
And if someone else, if they replace someone else at the convention, that money doesn't just flow easily over to another candidate. | ||
You got any details and analysis on that one? | ||
Right. | ||
So I think there's a little short of $100 million in the Biden-Harris campaign fund there. | ||
So what would happen is if Biden stepped down and Harris took over, she would kind of be in control of it. | ||
But I don't think anyone seriously wants a scenario in which Kamala Harris is on top of the ticket. | ||
So the real question is what happens if neither of them are running. | ||
What will happen is a lot of those donors will ask for their money back. | ||
They probably won't get it. | ||
But then you're talking about transferring it potentially to a super PAC. | ||
And a super PAC, of course, cannot directly coordinate with a political campaign. | ||
So that imposes some limitation. | ||
But what do we learn about limitations, rules, laws and procedures over the last three and | ||
a half years? | ||
Their advisory for the left, who has completely turned this system of government on its head | ||
and is trying to arrest not only their chief political opponent and president. | ||
President Trump, but have Peter Bannon, or Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro sitting in | ||
jail right now as we speak with many other political patriots serving out political pressure. | ||
Hey Mike, reverse that, reverse that sentence, say that one more time, right from the top. | ||
All the policies, procedures, start at the top, go slow, explain what that means. | ||
Right. | ||
We could spend a lot of time talking about the laws and the rules and how this country should operate. | ||
And for the point I'm trying to make is we're in a post-constitutional order right now and that the system is literally creaking at its seams. | ||
And the Supreme Court is the only thing keeping the lawless left in check. | ||
So even if there are limitations on how Biden can be switched out or how the money can be switched around, The law is advisory for the left right now. | ||
They're willing to do everything within their power to stop Trump. | ||
President Biden basically put out a political hit on the Supreme Court last night, hoping that his deranged followers take him up on it. | ||
And so, for the purposes of what they end up doing to fix their political problem now, they view the law as advisory. | ||
I expect that they will break it. | ||
That's why we are positioning ourselves to litigate aggressively should they take these steps. | ||
We expect them to. | ||
Yeah, good, and that's creating outrage from the left, right? | ||
Supreme Court justices are going over Seal Team Six scenarios. | ||
President Trump was in power for four years without any of these overreaches they're reaching for right now. | ||
Chief Justice Roberts said those arguments about Seal Team Sixes are fanciful. | ||
There's all sorts of other checks and balances in place, including the 25th Amendment, etc., to deal with presidents and those down beneath them who go off on a fanciful flight like that. | ||
Just in closing, what are the two most egregious legal overreaches of this White House and executive branch? | ||
That come to mind when they're saying that the Trump regime is going to overreach. | ||
They didn't in the past. | ||
What are the two most egregious examples where they've gone out over the skis? | ||
Yeah, I think the first is the most brazen constitutional abuse in the history of the United States. | ||
That is the president opening the border and basically losing control purposely of the sovereignty of the United States for a political program to import more potential voters. | ||
Which we're catching him day in and day out trying to get to vote for President Biden. | ||
In fact, we'll be dropping some bombshell video evidence on that in coming days. | ||
We've already dropped a ton. | ||
That's his plan to get elected on the backs of illegal aliens that he opened the border for. | ||
And then the second is the complete turn of the law enforcement, federal, state, and local working in coordination against political opponents. | ||
Not only in President Trump, where it's most pronounced, and by the way, I don't know many kings, ...have spent this much time in courtrooms, or this much time paying legal fees, or had their home raided by jackbooted thugs by Jack Smith to search Melania's bedroom. | ||
It is outrageous, these comparisons to him being a king, when he is nothing more than a complete victim of this weaponization, and he is staying in this fight because America is worth saving, and he's showing not only the country, but the entire world how flagrant and reckless, out of control, this senile and corrupt regime and illegitimate administration is. | ||
Yeah, Mike Howell, you're a patriot, you're a constitutional expert, very professional, as Heritage always is, following within the rule of law, within the Constitution, telling the truth and talking truth to power. | ||
Thank you for being with us, Mike. | ||
We're going to show a quick clip here and then bring in Kevin Roberts, the president of the Heritage Foundation. | ||
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Just how clarifying this is about the sakes of the election. | |
To the extent there's some activating small d democratic energy that can be brought out of what I think is a genuinely appalling move by the court. | ||
I wonder if you feel the same way about that. | ||
It's very clarifying. | ||
They might as well have added, by the way, please Google Project 2025 because we are essentially authorizing, and not just authorizing, really sort of calling on Donald Trump. | ||
They repeatedly talk about bold and decisive action. | ||
What bold and decisive action do they have in mind? | ||
Probably the exact same bold and decisive action the Heritage Foundation has in mind. | ||
Heritage Action has in mind. | ||
Leonard Leo has in mind. | ||
Steve Bannon has in mind. | ||
And what I think they're saying to the American people is that if we get, we, this Leonard Leo Six, get our preferred president back, we are going to encourage him to break the boundaries of the law, to push it to the limit, to feel free to even use violence, to use mass incarceration. | ||
Go ahead and do those camps. | ||
Do whatever you need to do to take the bold and decisive action that we repeatedly have said is necessary. | ||
for the function of the presidency to get the agenda done and we'll protect you and we'll let you know | ||
Donald Trump when you've gone too far and only then will you be stopped | ||
This is a clarion call to every American by the way That debate is like 34 felony counts old and it does not | ||
matter anymore all All that matters is that you do not allow the person back into office who will use this power that he's been given by this court, this imperial court, to implement that agenda they wrote down and published because they know that no one will stop them except voters. | ||
Welcome back to the Royal Room. | ||
Dave Brat sitting in with Stephen K. Bannon and team. | ||
Yesterday we had Mike Davison, who gave one of the most profound statements, the left, who you just heard talking in this clip. | ||
I cannot believe there are actual constitutional folks left in this country who actually do believe in the rule of law and the Constitution. | ||
And they really cannot believe that there are people who still believe in the Judeo-Christian West and in the God of the Bible. | ||
The majority is starting to speak, right? | ||
The minority, the MSNBCs, the CNN talking heads are starting to discover that they are not the majority, right? | ||
And the one thing the Constitution does is favors majority rule with minority rights. | ||
That's what makes us a republic instead of mob rule and a democracy. | ||
But minority rights does not give the minority power to run our lives. | ||
And so on these most critical times and critical issues concerning the Constitution, there is no one better in this world, there's no better man, a Christian friend for time, someone who's a fierce follower of the Constitution. | ||
It's our honor to welcome Kevin Roberts to the show. | ||
And Kevin, if you just wanted Freewheel it and respond to those clips and tell folks what the Heritage Foundation is doing to protect the rule of law and to protect individuals in this great country. | ||
Pleasure to have you on. | ||
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Well, Professor, my great friend, thanks for filling in and doing a great job. | |
Three things. | ||
Number one, in spite of all this nonsense from the left, we are going to win. | ||
We're in the process of taking this country back. | ||
No one in the audience should be despairing. | ||
No one should be discouraged. | ||
We ought to be really encouraged by what happened yesterday. | ||
And in spite of all of the injustice, which of course friends and audience of this show, of our friend Steve know, we are going to prevail. | ||
Number two, to the point of the clips and of course your preview of the fact that I am an early American historian and love the Constitution. | ||
That Supreme Court ruling yesterday on immunity is vital, and it's vital for a lot of reasons, but I would go to Federalist No. | ||
70. | ||
If people in the audience are looking for something to read over Independence Day weekend, in addition to rereading the Declaration of Independence, read Hamilton's No. | ||
70, because there, along with some other essays, in some other essays, he talks about the importance of a vigorous executive. | ||
You know, former congressman, the importance of Congress doing its job, but we also know the importance of the executive being able to do his job. | ||
And can you imagine, Dave Brat, any president, put politics off to the side, any president, having to second guess, triple guess every decision they're making in their official capacity? | ||
You couldn't have the republic that you just described. | ||
But number three, let me speak about the radical left. | ||
You and I have both been parts of faculties and faculty senates and understand that the left has taken over our institutions. | ||
The reason that they are apoplectic right now, the reason that so many anchors on MSNBC, for example, are losing their minds daily is because our side is winning. | ||
And so I come full circle on this response and just want to encourage you with some substance that we are in the process of the second American revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be. | ||
Right on. | ||
Thank you, brother. | ||
We'll be right back after a break with Kevin Roberts to dive into detail. | ||
I always forget to give my friends the full credits. | ||
Ph.D., American history, no finer mind as well as soul. | ||
We'll be back in with Kevin Roberts in two minutes. | ||
Stay tuned. | ||
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to share with you. | |
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bound. | ||
Honored to have Kevin Roberts back with us from the Heritage Foundation. | ||
Kevin just laid out some of the foundations for our Republic and our Constitution. | ||
Kevin, you've been following the Supreme Court decisions. | ||
We've had a lot of commentary on Chevron, on some of the freedom of speech cases that came out, bombshells over the week. | ||
I can't think of anybody better. | ||
to give us a kind of a meta view of what does it all mean when you put them all together? | ||
What is this Supreme Court doing? | ||
The left is viewing this all in terms of politics. | ||
I think you would have a different view on the matter and so why don't you lead us through a quick tutorial on what this court is up to and why it's so important for our constitutional republic. | ||
Kevin Roberts. | ||
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I'm going to take a step back from the politics, Dave, and actually answer your question as a historian of the early Republic and say, if you take a look at the entire session of this Supreme Court, I understand that there are a couple of decisions and a couple of opinions by a couple of particular justices that might be a little troubling, but take a step back from that and look at it as a whole. | |
What this session is about is restoring ordered liberty to this Republic. | ||
That's an academic statement from an academic to an academic, but to an audience that I know is very well studied of the early republic. | ||
And the reason this is important is because it's getting us closer back to what our founders, primarily George Washington himself, wanted this republic to be. | ||
And that was this unique and noble objective that somehow, someway, This pluralistic republic would be able to balance two competing goods, on the one side liberty and on the other side order. | ||
In other words, as you understand so well, Dave, our definition of freedom is not the freedom to do whatever the heck we want, but the freedom to do what we ought. | ||
That is to say, it confers a moral obligation to our fellow Americans and to the republic. | ||
On the other side, we also believe in order. | ||
We believe that, in fact, there should be a government. | ||
We're not anarchists. | ||
And as a result, I think when particularly you look at the Chevron decision, as momentous as the Dobbs decision of a couple of years ago, because what it is going to do, the result it is going to have, is that it is going to return the power to the people. | ||
It is going to devolve power from Washington, D.C., not just to the states, but to individual Americans. | ||
And I think Of all of the Supreme Court sessions in my lifetime, obviously the one where Dobbs was passed is number one. | ||
This is the second most important, and it is vital to the survival of this republic. | ||
We ought to be celebrating this this summer. | ||
Yeah, brilliant. | ||
Thanks, Kevin. | ||
Can you expound a little bit more? | ||
You went to it, and I think it's a theme that's been very undeveloped by either political party, especially by the left. | ||
But that's the concept of a strong moral fiber for this country. | ||
We all know the famous phrases, this republic was built on the understanding that we had a Judeo-Christian tradition in place and that it required a strong moral people to sustain itself. | ||
And so now we're at a point where the left is just going histrionics on overreach stories about SEAL Team Sixes and whatever. | ||
There's no trust. | ||
They have no trust. | ||
in anyone anymore. | ||
And I think that hints to, you know, the 40 or 50 year project in academia, where they have gutted Judeo-Christian religion cannot be taught whatsoever. | ||
There's this supposed separation of church and state. | ||
But even more problematic, there's no morality whatsoever. | ||
If you're in a K-12 school, there's no moral system that's taught. | ||
And so, what's the role of the Heritage Foundation in your messaging on the absolute necessity of having a strong moral people to continue this great republic? | ||
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The Heritage Foundation would lean on Alexis de Tocqueville, who 200 years ago said, to paraphrase him, if you have a problem with politics in the United States, Don't look at the structure of government as the problem. | |
In fact, America's constitutional republic is about as close to perfect as you can get on this side of heaven. | ||
But instead, look in the mirror, which was his way of saying that the only way you can secure the promises of that constitutional structure is if you live a life in virtue. | ||
And one of the key ways, the key way, we believe in the Judeo-Christian tradition to live a life of virtue is to know God. | ||
And obviously, in the United States, we're religiously pluralistic. | ||
People can worship as they would like. | ||
They can go to the church of their choice. | ||
But we're all united by not just our monotheism, Dave, as you know, but by the belief, as the ancient Hebrews showed us in Jerusalem, That God's law can in fact be a huge influence on the civil laws that we pass all with the freedom for people to practice as they would like. | ||
All of that to say, one of the main problems, in fact I would argue the main problem facing the United States as it enters This really pivotal period is that we have a decline in religiosity, and I tell not just broad audiences, but even conservative audiences around the country that if you want to save this country, there is going to have to be a third Great Awakening. | ||
We've had two in our country's history, and for people who don't like the sound of that because they don't like organized religion, it's the only way we're going to be able to save this republic. | ||
Yeah, I agree with you. | ||
And just so I don't get in trouble with Media Matters or whatever on this supposed separation of church and state, the founders were very clear. | ||
They don't want any particular church running the government, right? | ||
But as I said earlier, you know, we do want majority rule. | ||
And the majority of this country has been the Judeo-Christian tradition in terms of morality. | ||
And we've had a pretty good track record, right? | ||
Under President Trump, we had peace and prosperity for four years until the China virus, etc. | ||
And the American people, I think, now are starting to feel a hunger for that, right? | ||
But what we don't want is minority rule, right? | ||
And so we still want absolute minority rights to religion of your choice. | ||
No, God, our God in the Judeo-Christian West, doesn't put his thumb down and coerce us to faith. | ||
It's freely chosen because he's offering his love, and we want that. | ||
And so, Kevin, we're going to hold you over the break. | ||
I'd like to get your response there for a minute, but you've got 30 seconds left to start us off on your thinking there. | ||
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Free will is a powerful thing, and the conversation we're having now, Dave, about the importance of faith Of course, it's predicated upon this great and almost unique aspect of the United States, which is that we believe in religious liberty so fervently that we believe our fellow Americans can choose to have no religion or to have the religion of their choice. | |
The radical left tries to eliminate that entirely, which is another way of saying they're trying to eliminate the key aspect of what it is to be an American day-to-day. | ||
Yep, you just hit pure gold right there, Kevin. | ||
We're going to be back with Kevin Roberts, Ph.D., American History, President of the Heritage Foundation, scholar, statesman, and we're going to hit that gold in three seconds. | ||
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