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Episode 3712: SCOTUS Allows Government Censorship; Out Of The Shadows With Lunden Roberts
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
President Trump got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Batman.
Oh god.
Okay, welcome.
steve bannon
It's Wednesday, 26 June in the year of our Lord 2024.
You're in the War Room.
We're going to go to immediately our own Mike Davis is outside the Supreme Court today.
Starts three days of some of the most important decisions the court has ever made.
Mike Davis, what do you got for me?
mike davis
Yeah, these are going to be monumental cases coming out of the Supreme Court over the next three days.
You're going to have the Supreme Court decide President Trump's case dealing with presidential immunity, whether a president of the United States can imprison his predecessor based upon that former president's official acts while he was the president of the United States.
This is a monumental case.
one of the most important cases the Supreme Court will ever decide because if a president
can imprison his predecessor for his official acts, not his personal acts, his official
acts while president, then you're going to destroy the presidency and therefore destroy
the country.
And we saw at oral arguments two months ago that at least five of the Supreme Court justices
appear to agree with that position because otherwise President Trump, 47's Justice Department
could indict President Obama for capital murder for his extrajudicial drone strike of two
American citizens.
Trump's Justice Department could indict President Biden for his illegal mass parole of 10 million illegal immigrants into our country and the resulting rapes, murders, kidnappings and other violent crimes.
President Trump's Justice Department could even indict George W. Bush for his reckless handling of the Iraq war that led to millions of deaths.
I know the Supreme Court does not want to go down this path.
steve bannon
Look, look, look, there's three monumental.
I mean, there's tons of important.
I've never seen a calendar like this, Jim.
I think they're 18 in the next three days.
You see the protest outside.
Mike, doesn't the protest and what's happening lead you to believe that immunity and I believe even the more important Fisher decision will be Friday.
It'll be after the debate tomorrow night and it will be after because Joe Biden, they don't want to jam Joe Biden up to have to answer questions, particularly about Fisher and about immunity, sir.
Don't you think they'll come Friday?
mike davis
Yeah, based upon my experience clerking and just observing the Chief Justice over the years, that seems likely that they're going to wait till after the presidential debate to release presidential immunity and Fisher.
Remember, the Fisher case is where the Biden Justice Department has illegally contorted a post-Enron obstruction of justice statute dealing with corporate fraud, shredding of documents, and they have politicized And weaponize this against President Trump and many, many January 6th defendants.
And it is persecution, and the Supreme Court appears to recognize that.
You're going to see these convictions reversed.
steve bannon
The Fisher I actually happen to believe is the most controversial, and I believe that will hit like a bomb when it hits.
We also have the Chevron deference.
We have all of that.
So Mike, they're going to come out.
Mike Davis is going to come back over to the war room.
Uh, as soon as these start coming.
But you anticipate we also have Julie Kelly, we have Jeff Clark, we have an entire team there to analyze these.
Remember, you have five huge decisions about the administrative state, the deconstruction of the administrative state, including the Chevron deference, which is the Mac Daddy.
Of all that, you have two monumental, the Fisher decision, which will be, I think, cut to the heart of this illegitimate regime we call the Biden crime family, and also the immunity.
Mike Davis, then you've got Missouri, you've got abortion, you've got so much stuff going on.
Mike, any closing thoughts before they start coming out?
You're going to come back over here at 10.30 and join us in studio, correct?
mike davis
I am, and I would say this, that elections have consequences, and if President Trump did not appoint Justices Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett and help transform the 5-4 Left of Center Supreme Court to the 5-4 Clarence Thomas Supreme Court, we would have much different results today.
Everything is on the line on November 5th, 2024.
Our God-given rights to speak, to worship, to associate, and to protect ourselves.
steve bannon
By the way, President Trump appointed him?
But you, Mike Davis, and Mark Payaletta, in the trenches, got this thing done.
And President Trump had your back.
Every moment that came to him, particularly on Kavanaugh, at the inflection point on Kavanaugh, when they're trying to smear Kavanaugh like Justice Thomas, you had every opportunity to fold.
You are a warrior, sir.
Mark Payaletta is a warrior.
When you get back over here, I'll play Elizabeth Warren on this radical nature of what they want to do is pack the Supreme Court.
They're very open about this.
This is why the stakes could not be higher in November.
Mike Davis, look forward to what they drop today.
I assume a lot of it's going to be administrative state, but we'll have to see.
Maybe they surprise us.
Mike Davis at the Supreme Court.
Julie Kelly is doing this.
Jeff Clark's doing this.
MTG is going to join us later, also in studio.
There's a lot going on.
Caroline Runt, explosive news out of Arizona about this entire thing of the machines and stealing the FOB.
Also, huge news out of Wisconsin on the recall of the Speaker of the House, Robin Voss.
These are all directly related to election integrity.
We're going to do something a little different.
I did it last night.
I had Arthur Herman, the writer, on for almost an hour, and the feedback we got from that was tremendous, and we're going to replay the six o'clock hour.
I'll work with Grace and Mo about where we're going to do it.
Very honored now to have in studio, and we're going to keep her for hopefully Most of the next couple of hours as we go through this, because I think it's very important and very timely, and we're going to be in and out.
David's going to come over for a while.
MTG's going to come over for a while.
We've got other news we've got to break.
But I believe the most controversial book of the year, Out of the Shadows, which is subtitled My Life with Hunter Biden.
Is that the subtitle?
unidentified
I think my life inside the wild world.
steve bannon
Hunter Biden, and you are the mother of this precious little girl, Navy Joan.
unidentified
I am.
steve bannon
And you are London Roberts.
unidentified
Yes.
steve bannon
And his daughter that he had with you is Navy Joan Roberts?
unidentified
Yes.
steve bannon
Tell us about her.
unidentified
About her?
Yeah.
Oh, she's great.
She's wonderful.
She's smart.
She's intelligent.
She's beautiful.
She's blonde hair, blue eyed, little devil.
steve bannon
How old is she now?
unidentified
Five.
She'll be six in August.
Actually, the book comes out August 20th.
steve bannon
The best stage.
August 20th.
By the way, if we can get the cover up there.
You can order the book.
Today, this is Tony Lyons and the team at Skyhorse, Out of the Shadows, by London Roberts.
I believe this is going to be the most controversial book of the year, and there'll be a lot of controversial books, but this is next-level controversial, and we'll get into that in a second.
Where does Navy Joan now live?
unidentified
With me, in Arkansas.
steve bannon
Do you live by yourself or with your parents?
unidentified
By myself, not far from my parents.
steve bannon
Are your parents, her grandparents, very involved in her life?
unidentified
Very involved.
I see her every day.
steve bannon
Every day?
unidentified
Just about, yep.
steve bannon
And has your father somehow?
Because Hunter Biden's not really involved in her life.
unidentified
No.
He established that he would do Zoom calls last year out of a child support dispute.
steve bannon
Well, he did that after a court.
You had to go to court.
To take him to court.
It was after that, I'm not saying his court supervised, but he was a little bit forced to do this, was he not?
unidentified
Yes, we settled and that was part of his settlement.
His side would be that he would develop a relationship with his daughter by lowering child support.
She'd get one painting a month and they would talk through Zoom once a month.
steve bannon
His paintings that he sells in these galleries?
unidentified
Would you make sure they were child appropriate?
steve bannon
Some of his paintings are, I would argue, maybe not appropriate.
unidentified
I don't know, I haven't seen all of them.
But yes, I mean, I would hope that he wouldn't let her choose from one that wasn't.
steve bannon
Up until a court got involved here, and that's because you had to go to court, correct?
unidentified
Right.
steve bannon
Did you try every remedy before then to have him involved in Navy Jones' life?
unidentified
I tried every remedy to hold him accountable.
Because he started saying, you know, that maybe he wasn't the father.
And so that's why I filed the paternity suit.
steve bannon
Was there any doubt in your mind and in his mind when he said that he was the father?
unidentified
No, he knew.
steve bannon
Why do you say he knew?
unidentified
Because, you know, initially, you know, when I told him that I was pregnant, we were at his house in Annapolis, and he, you know, he was kind of shocked at first.
I told him, I was like, and you know, it's yours.
He's like, oh, honey, I know it's mine.
And he goes on telling me, you know, he had no doubts.
And each time I talked to him for over the next month before I left and went home to Arkansas, he was, you know, very adamant.
He knew it was his.
steve bannon
And then what happened?
unidentified
And then he slowly just kind of faded away, and I didn't hear from him.
steve bannon
He ghosted you?
unidentified
Yes.
steve bannon
How did that happen?
unidentified
Not really sure how it happened exactly, but you know, we saw each other a few more times after that, after telling him, and then there was an ultrasound.
steve bannon
Hang on a second, let me understand this.
You were in Annapolis.
That's where you guys had this relationship.
You actually worked as his assistant at Rosemont Seneca.
unidentified
Yes.
steve bannon
In Washington, correct?
Yes.
And at the time that you told him that you were pregnant, how long had you worked at Rosemont Seneca?
unidentified
Oh, I don't know that exactly.
steve bannon
A couple of months?
unidentified
Yeah, it had been months.
steve bannon
Months.
unidentified
Yeah, I'd known Hunter for about a year.
steve bannon
You'd known him for about a year?
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
Were you a couple?
unidentified
I wouldn't say a couple, but we were on and off again.
You know, at the time, I had known him for a couple months when it came out, or a few months when it came out that he was dating his sister-in-law.
steve bannon
We refer to her here in the war room as the grieving widow.
So the grieving, he had a relationship with a grieving widow.
Did you know that?
Did he tell you that at the time?
unidentified
Did you know that?
No, I actually found out from the tabloids.
And then I messaged him and told him, you know, just checking on him, because I know that he, you know, had a lot going on and he was...
He felt bad for being like this black sheep and this disappointment to his family so and that's what he felt like he was so I messaged him telling him I was checking on him and you know he said thank you and then we didn't talk for a little bit and then he hit me up and and wanted to talk and he just kind of downplayed it made it seem like you know it wasn't that big of a deal.
steve bannon
When you told him you were pregnant, did you then go and have a sonogram right away to make sure everything was okay?
unidentified
No, I actually had a sonogram done before.
Before you told him?
Yes, and I talk in the book, Out of the Shadows, like it's...
It takes me a while to tell him because, you know, I had known him... Why?
Good question.
I had known him as Hunt.
Like, he was somebody that, you know, have a good time with and laugh with.
You could trust and be honest with and be yourself with.
steve bannon
Did you do drugs with him?
unidentified
I didn't.
Did you do drugs with him?
I talk about being in DC and how, like, young, wild and free and a different lifestyle and, you know... I got that, but did you do drugs with him?
There were times that I've tried drugs.
steve bannon
Hard drugs?
You did cocaine and the types of things he did?
unidentified
I've tried cocaine.
steve bannon
With Hunter Biden?
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
Had you ever done it before you met Hunter Biden?
unidentified
Yeah.
I tried it in D.C.
That's what I'm saying.
When I come to D.C., I talk about how, you know, it was different than the Arkansas lifestyle, having a beer on a Friday night.
I was, you know, drinking.
I tried things.
I was living how I shouldn't.
And, you know, it just, yeah, led to where I am today.
steve bannon
You informed him that he was the father, right?
He embraced that at the time?
unidentified
Yes.
steve bannon
Initially.
unidentified
Initially.
steve bannon
Did he, at that time, imply that he would be there for you as a partner, maybe not get married, as a partner?
unidentified
Yeah, not so much like we'd get married, but he made it very clear that he would not have a child and not be in his life.
steve bannon
And that meant financially, all of it, across the board?
unidentified
Mentally, physically.
steve bannon
Now why did you then leave Annapolis, where he was, and go to Arkansas?
unidentified
Well, I left the D.C.
area.
That's where I was living at the time.
And that's because when I scheduled another sonogram to hear the baby's heartbeat for the first time.
And this is after he had said that he was going to be involved.
And so I asked him to come.
And I even scheduled it in Annapolis so he can make it.
steve bannon
You scheduled the sonogram there so it would be convenient for him to come and be part of it.
unidentified
Right.
And he didn't show up.
And so I knew not only did he not show up for me that day, he probably wasn't going to show up for the next few months that I was pregnant.
And so I went home because, you know, you always got family, right?
steve bannon
Did you try to contact him when he didn't show up and try to have a conversation?
unidentified
I did.
I did.
steve bannon
And did he get back to you or you just got ghosted?
unidentified
No, at one time it just completely cut off and there was no text back.
Even, you know, I need to talk to you or something like that.
There was nothing.
steve bannon
And so you went back to Arkansas to have the child, have Navy Joan, with your parents.
You went back home, basically.
Yes.
To the town that you were raised in, where your parents live?
unidentified
Yes.
Where I grew up.
steve bannon
Where you grew up.
You're a Division I, correct me if I'm wrong, you're a Division I basketball player from Arkansas State?
unidentified
I was, yes.
steve bannon
Yes.
Okay, fine.
We'll get into all that.
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We're going to go to the Supreme Court.
We've had, by the way, only a couple of rulings today.
So the question is going to roll into next week.
Let's go to Mike Davis.
Mike, one that's very near to your heart.
The Facebook situation.
What happened?
mike davis
So in Murphy vs. Missouri, it was a 6-3 decision with Justice Amy Coney Barrett, Justice Kavanaugh, and Chief Justice John Roberts joining the three liberals and holding that there is not a First Amendment violation when the Biden administration officials coerced, jawboned, Uh, uh, private individuals and state actors into censoring COVID misinformation, as they called it COVID information.
Oftentimes that ended up being correct because that's the scientific method.
But, uh, the majority opinion does not seem to find that there was a first amendment violation that the Biden administration, even though they have section 230 protections, For these big tech platforms, even though they have antitrust amnesty, even though they have government grants, even though Facebook jumped as high as it could just about every time the Biden administration checked in that the Supreme Court found that there wasn't coercion and therefore no First Amendment violation.
steve bannon
Hang on, but this is a big loss, correct?
Because people thought this was going to be pretty straightforward, particularly with a conservative court, sir.
Because isn't Article 3 built around this whole thing with Big Tech, the sociopathic overlords in Big Tech working with the deep state to suppress the freedom and liberty of the American people?
mike davis
You know, I wasn't very confident going into this case.
I wasn't very confident coming out of oral argument in this case because I just understood.
I didn't know where Barrett would be, but I understood that the Chief Justice, and particularly Justice Kavanaugh, do not share our view that these big tech platforms are trillion-dollar Big Tech monopolists that use their market power to crush competition and to cancel conservatives.
The solution here, we're not going to get a solution through Section 230 reform any time in the near future.
We're not going to get a solution through the courts as we just saw with Murphy versus Missouri.
The solution is to break up ...these big tech platforms by updating our century-old antitrust laws.
If Google competed against YouTube instead of acquired YouTube, they wouldn't be censoring Americans.
steve bannon
Okay, perfect.
Mike, where do people go to go to Article 3 now to check it out?
mike davis
Article3project.org.
Article3project.org.
You can donate there, you can take action there, you can follow us on social media.
steve bannon
Brother, thank you very much.
Maybe we don't get Mike over here.
We'll figure it out.
Maybe he stays out there.
But this is, I think, only two this morning.
You got 18 to go.
I believe they're going to be going into next week.
I think they just sent us a signal, which is pretty extraordinary.
I think it's only happened a couple of times, so we'll get back on that.
But there's two massive, the Fisher case and the immunity case, two massive cases that will have a direct impact, not just on the November election, but really American political history.
London Roberts is our guest in studio.
She's the author of Out of the Shadows.
In putting this book out, it comes out in August.
Like I said, everybody should go to Amazon right now and order this book if you're in the War on Posse.
Let me take a different direction.
You're a daughter of the South, correct?
unidentified
I am.
steve bannon
And you were raised with Southern values?
unidentified
I was, yes.
steve bannon
Tell us about your family.
Tell us about your parents, your hometown.
When you say Southern values, what does that mean to you?
How were you raised?
unidentified
Very family-oriented.
Church every Sunday, you know, just small town.
Small town gossip, small town rumors, you know.
Took the town by a whirlwind when I came home from DC pregnant and no one knew who the father was.
You know, I kept that a secret, thinking I was protecting him, but at the same time, you know.
steve bannon
So when you go to the big city and go to D.C., that's when the wild days start.
Because you're at Arkansas State and being a Division I basketball player.
And you were very good.
You were shortlisted for All-American.
unidentified
I was an All-American nominee.
steve bannon
You were an All-American nominee.
And the team was pretty good.
And the little girls that play that, you came up playing basketball all the time, correct?
unidentified
Yes.
steve bannon
Club teams, high school.
Very disciplined, right?
unidentified
Yes.
steve bannon
And so what happens when you come to the big city?
How does that all get thrown aside?
unidentified
I think just being on your own, you can start like this own persona for yourself.
You can do your own thing and not just under this, you know, the thumb of your parents and having to, you know, abide by strict rules and no one knows you.
And in small town, everybody knows everybody.
steve bannon
You can start over again as your own new persona.
unidentified
You can be whoever you want.
steve bannon
Did you come to D.C.
specifically?
Tell us the story.
unidentified
I came to D.C.
steve bannon
for... Give us your journey.
unidentified
I came to D.C.
for CSI school, for a grad certificate program.
And that's what brought me here.
And then, you know, I had some... I talk in the book, I had some complications with financial aid.
You know, I'd start partying and hanging out and not doing what I should for school and start working for Hunter and thinking that, you know, that's what I'll do.
steve bannon
How did you actually meet Hunter Biden?
unidentified
I met him at Rosemont Seneca one night at an after party.
I'd been out.
With some friends.
steve bannon
An after-party.
It's a private equity firm.
When you say after-party, what do you mean an after-party?
It manages money for the Chinese Communist Party.
When you say I go for an after-party, that's like something on Hollywood.
Clubs are closed down on Sunset Strip, and you go up to the Hollywood Hills for an after-party.
Only bad people are there, and only bad things happen.
unidentified
It was just kind of like hanging out.
People who weren't going home, they were drinking, they still had drinks and stuff.
steve bannon
Were they doing drugs in Rosemont, Seneca?
unidentified
Yes, and I was invited by... Hold on, hold on.
steve bannon
In this space, you're telling me, when you went to the after-party, there was drugs out and people were doing drugs?
There were, and... Were those drugs like cocaine and things like that?
unidentified
Yes.
steve bannon
They were?
In a space, and correct me if I'm wrong, didn't Joe Biden have an office in that space?
I know Hunter Biden did.
This is the Swedish house, right?
unidentified
Yeah, I don't think he had an office there.
steve bannon
If he did, I think they allocated one for him.
I'm not sure he ever went.
But there were drugs there.
Was that something normally you would think would be in a business environment?
unidentified
Well, I didn't know where I was going.
I didn't know that, you know, at the time it was a firm.
I didn't know, you know, what was happening.
You didn't know this was Hunter Biden?
I was just going with it.
I was invited by a friend and went with.
steve bannon
And you didn't know Hunter Biden was a partner or principal in this firm?
unidentified
I didn't know who Hunter Biden was.
It wasn't until I sat down and talked to him that night for the first time that I realized who he was.
steve bannon
When you say you didn't know who he was, you didn't know he was son of a guy named Joe Biden?
unidentified
Former Vice President.
steve bannon
Former Vice President.
You're not really into politics, I take it?
unidentified
No, I'm not.
steve bannon
At that time, definitely not into politics.
What, um, can you tell us about that night?
unidentified
Uh, yeah.
So, you know, I'm, I'm walking in with my, you have that look on your face.
I don't trust.
I walk in, you know, with my friends.
steve bannon
You're a very savvy young woman.
But continue on.
unidentified
Continue on.
steve bannon
I can't believe you trust Hunter Biden, but you don't trust me.
But hey, that's just the war room, I guess.
Do you have a motive?
Here's the motive.
I do have a motive.
I find it shocking.
I find it shocking that you have this precious little girl that's five years old.
that is just looks like adorable. You come from a very solid southern family and she is being
not simply traumatized. I mean, I think she's kind of in danger. And here's the reason is that,
you know, the rest of the Biden family and their greater family have secret service
protection, federal protection services. They are monitored and where they go and
protected and looked over. And we have a five-year-old girl that has a mother,
but has essentially been abandoned, not just financially, not just psychologically,
but also been abandoned for her own physical safety.
And it's unacceptable.
So as soon as Tony Lyons told me that he had the book, I wanted, at the appropriate time, to have you in here and tell your story.
unidentified
You know, there are times throughout the book I talk about, like, the safety and stuff and the well-being.
There were times we had to leave our home and go hide out in the woods in a secluded cabin that, you know, my dad's friend owned.
Like, the election night.
Like, during, you know, the paternity suit and stuff like that.
Because there were threats against her safety.
And we didn't have that security.
But we had Pappy come up as Rambo.
steve bannon
Hold it.
Threats against whose safety?
unidentified
Navy Jones.
steve bannon
Navy Jones.
Do you have a hotline or do you have any connection to the Secret Service that you can let them know that?
unidentified
No.
But, you know, local police and stuff.
Our community, like I said, it's a small town looking out for each other.
steve bannon
But the rest of the Biden children and grandchildren, if they had threats, they would be able to have access to the Federal Protective Service, Secret Service, others.
Why does Navy Joe not have that?
unidentified
That's something I can't answer.
I don't know.
steve bannon
Have you brought that?
I mean, you had to go to court.
Yes, it's been brought up.
You had to go to court to actually get him, first off, to admit, because there's scientific evidence, there's DNA, correct?
unidentified
Correct.
steve bannon
And there's no doubt that he is the father of this child?
unidentified
Correct.
steve bannon
And that's been proven in a court?
unidentified
Correct.
steve bannon
And he committed in that time to both financial Support for the child?
And to also have begin a, I don't know if court supervised, but some sort of relationship with the child?
unidentified
No, during that time it was just financial.
He didn't make any promises about, you know, being in her life.
And it wasn't until last year that, you know, he, or it was the year before, the September before he had filed, I think, you know, it takes the court system some time, but he had filed to lower child support.
And it wasn't until... To lower child support?
Yeah, it wasn't until he settled that in... Why would he want to lower child support?
He was paying a lot in child support.
steve bannon
How much?
unidentified
Over $20,000.
$20,000 plus whatever her insurance was.
So he was paying a lot.
Per month?
Mm-hmm.
steve bannon
We say a lot.
unidentified
Is that, was that, that was to keep her in a lifestyle to be able to... No, that's what he settled for because, you know, the night before, he had to come into depositions against, you know, my attorney.
My attorney was going to depose him and so the night before his attorney called and said, what can we do to, you know, settle this?
steve bannon
Why was he afraid of being deposed by your attorney?
unidentified
Um, I'm not certain.
steve bannon
I think my attorney, um, my attorney's investigated him pretty, pretty well and, um, And in that investigation, what types of questions was he prepared to ask Hunter Biden under oath that Hunter Biden would be so concerned that he would fold the night before and agree to something it looks like he couldn't pay, which was $20,000 plus a month?
unidentified
You know, that's something I talk about.
I'm not sure, but I know for sure he didn't want to come to Arkansas and talk with my attorney about this question.
So I'm not certain what exactly he didn't want to answer to.
steve bannon
How did the... I'll tell you what, we'll do another break.
We're going to... London Roberts is going to be with us throughout the morning.
We're going to be coming back and forth between the Supreme Court.
We've got MTG.
We've got breaking news in Arizona.
Breaking news in Wisconsin.
We're all over it today.
unidentified
I think something happened last night with the Speaker of the House.
steve bannon
We'll talk about that too.
Short commercial break.
unidentified
back in the warming room.
steve bannon
Hey, I want to say our own Mike Davis, you know we had today set up
Mike was going to report all these big breaking historical things to the Supreme Court.
Then Mike's going to come back over to the War Room.
As you know, we're very near the Supreme Court.
Mike is going to come over and walk through these cases.
He's going to do the breakdown.
Julie Kelly's going to come in.
Jeff Clark.
We're going to get the brain trust.
Complete stiff.
Only Mike Davis.
6-3.
The big Facebook case and we lose 6-3.
Including...
Kavanaugh, just saying.
So, we'll have Mike Davis in a little bit later in the show.
MTG's going to join us in studio too.
What's happening, Kavanaugh?
Thanks for nothing, Mike Davis.
I'm going to start calling Mike Davis the cooler.
unidentified
He was the cooler at the Supreme Court today.
steve bannon
Huge decisions, no conference scheduled for tomorrow.
So, Mike Davis' thoughts, as he'll tell us later.
He thinks it'll all get done this week, and we'll have to see.
Out of the Shadows by London Roberts.
She's the mother of Navy Joan Roberts.
Given that you've had some situations in the past, when you say $20,000, you've got to play... I mean, do you pay for security?
Aren't you concerned about her security?
unidentified
No.
No, I am fully loaded and fully armed at all times.
steve bannon
I said you're a daughter of the South.
What do you mean by that?
You believe in the Second Amendment?
unidentified
I do!
We're armed at the house.
I talk to my friends, and even throughout the book I talk about how at the house we have a security system.
I go up with these guard dogs on the door at night.
My nightly routine is turn the lights off, lock everything, arm, go up with these guard dogs, get them under the door handles to every door in the house.
And then me and my daughter barricade ourselves in a room and go to bed.
And it's guard dog.
What do you mean?
steve bannon
Are you serious?
What do you mean barricade?
unidentified
Yeah, I'm serious.
steve bannon
What do you mean barricade yourself into a room?
Like a safe room?
unidentified
Yeah, a safe room.
A bedroom.
steve bannon
Well, I mean, you make it the moral equivalent of a safe room.
unidentified
Well, it is because it's locked.
It's got this guard dog.
You've got a rifle behind the door.
You've got a sawed-off shotgun over here.
You've got another shotgun over there.
You've got a Glock in each nightstand.
steve bannon
You want me to do the armaments again?
You are a darter yourself.
Give me the armaments.
unidentified
We've got a rifle behind the door, and a sawed-off shotgun behind the headboard.
steve bannon
Pump action?
Yeah, it is.
Are they legal in Arkansas?
Am I getting you in trouble right now?
You've got a pump-action shotgun in back of you.
unidentified
No, I didn't say that.
steve bannon
Hold it, you got two glocks?
unidentified
Look at you, see?
You're out here trying to get people in trouble.
steve bannon
You got two glocks?
Lady, I'm going to prison on Monday.
unidentified
You're trying to take me with you.
steve bannon
No, no, no, no.
Nobody goes, just me.
You've got two glocks also?
unidentified
Yes, one in each nightstand.
I have things in the house like that hidden in certain areas just in case.
steve bannon
When you read the book, you don't come across as paranoid.
unidentified
I don't.
I wouldn't think, but yes.
steve bannon
Okay, so you're armed to the teeth with guard dogs, sawed-off shotgun, a couple of Glocks, high-powered rifle, and that's just going to bed at night.
Are you that concerned for your security and safety?
unidentified
You know, sometimes I tell people if I come home, but my house has been broken into.
There's been times at the night, like two, three o'clock in the morning, I've had to call my dad.
There's someone in my home, and I'm barricaded in my room.
waiting to blast somebody as soon as they open the door but it's guard dogged up and
I'm watching the shadow from under the door and I talk about that in the book.
You know there's one night me and my daughter wake up, some loud noise wakes us up and she's
like mom what was that?
And I said nothing, you know I calm her, I put her back to bed.
My deadbolt had fell from the front door, just on the floor and that's what that was
hitting and someone came in the house that night.
steve bannon
Has your lawyer transmitted this to Hunter or have you transmitted this to Hunter about
your concerns about the security for a five-year-old girl?
unidentified
My attorney has, but nothing's ever been done.
steve bannon
What do you mean, he's just blown it off?
unidentified
Yes, it's just been disregarded.
steve bannon
He knows that you have to keep locks and people have broken into your house?
unidentified
I don't know if he knows all that.
I don't know what he knows.
steve bannon
Has the attorney told his attorney?
Are they going to be shocked when they read this in the book and immediately want to protect Navy Joan?
unidentified
I don't think they're going to immediately want to protect her, but they might be shocked.
I think they'll be shocked by a lot that's in the book.
steve bannon
Why would they not want to protect her?
You say that instantaneously.
Why?
unidentified
Well, why would they not want to acknowledge her?
I think, you know, embracing a child regardless is a feather in their cap.
So, I don't know why they wouldn't want to protect her, but they don't, you know, it's like...
Not considered family.
steve bannon
Do you think he came and had the financial settlement and they haven't totally acknowledged her but somehow acknowledged her because do you think it's the cynical nature of American politics that they did that because they understood they were going to be hammered for not doing that?
unidentified
As far as the child support dispute?
steve bannon
No, just even acknowledging that Navy Joan is Hunter's daughter.
unidentified
I think that they do get hammered for it, and even making a public statement doesn't make them a part of her life, you know?
And so they still get hammered for it.
steve bannon
Is the security issue, do you believe, potentially traumatizing a five-year-old girl?
Let me ask you a different way.
When you were a little girl and raised by your parents with Southern values in this small town, relatively small town, in Northeast Arkansas, Did they put you to bed every night with a sawed-off shotgun, a high-powered rifle, and two Glocks by the stands every night when you were five years old?
unidentified
Well, no.
I can't even tell you if the doors were locked when I went to sleep at night.
But, you know, Navy knows... Because it's that kind of town.
Yeah.
And Navy knows the routine as far as, like, locking all the doors, turning the lights off, arming the security system, putting the guard dogs up.
She don't know where the... She don't have any idea of the gun.
Everything's hidden.
It's not just, like, out there for people to see.
It's put in safe locations.
So she doesn't know about all of that.
away from her and so she's right absolutely so you know she doesn't know about that but she knows about the the nightly routine and you know sleeping in the same room with the the stick at the door you know the guard dog stick and stuff like that and that's not ever does that eat at you being her mom that the family won't do this even modicum of not just embracing but to make sure she's okay and to make sure she's safe Absolutely.
I mean, as a mom, one of the main things you worry about every day is your child and their well-being.
And now can you imagine worrying about the well-being in this situation when you don't know if there are safety concerns out there, if there is a threat.
All you have is your local police department helping you and your community surrounding you, and it's tough.
steve bannon
If a drug cartel or criminal cartel are part of the 15 million Illegal alien invaders that Joe Biden has initiated to allow into this country were to come and kidnap you or take you and your daughter as hostages.
Do you believe that the Bidens would take any action whatsoever if it was a cartel?
Today they're talking about 400, I think 300 potential terrorists.
Todd Benson's going to join us in the afternoon, the five o'clock show.
I think it's 300, Mayorka's saying 300 people they think might be terrorists across the border.
If any of these came and kidnapped you or took you as hostages, do you believe that, not Hunter Biden, but do you believe that Joe Biden, the commander-in-chief, would do anything to protect you?
unidentified
Not me, no.
Personally, absolutely not.
Why not?
steve bannon
You're the mother of his granddaughter.
unidentified
I'm not a Biden.
But however, you know, Navy Joan is, and despite what her last name is, she is abiding by blood.
And I could only hope and pray that if something were to happen, they would do what's right for her.
steve bannon
Besides your hope and prayers, given your lived experience, given your lived experience as her chief protector, her mother, what are your thoughts?
unidentified
I don't know if they would.
steve bannon
Is that concern you?
Absolutely.
That you don't, you can't answer that question?
unidentified
Absolutely.
steve bannon
The world's full of bad people, right?
And he's let a lot of bad people in this country.
That doesn't, and there's, you know, and the United States has many enemies.
The drug cartels, right?
These terrorists that are across the border.
There's other gangs, the Chinese Communist Party, which have tried to do all types of things.
Is that, is that why, is it that fear that is the reason you arm up every night and have a set routine you go through for your own security?
unidentified
Yes.
I mean, as far as who her father and her grandfather are in general, is the reason that I do that every night.
steve bannon
Because... This is my point.
Because of who her father is and her grandfather, don't they have in your mind a moral obligation?
A moral obligation to protect this little girl?
unidentified
Yes.
steve bannon
There's no doubt in your mind of that?
unidentified
There's no doubt.
steve bannon
And why don't they?
unidentified
I can't answer that for them.
I don't know.
I don't... It's as if she's not a Biden, but she is.
steve bannon
Jill Biden presents herself, Dr. Jill Biden presents herself as like the mother of America and look, I am on record and people gotta understand this, I call them a pack of feral dogs because I've looked, I was the one that went through the laptop from hell with everything on the Chinese Communist Party business side but We also went through and looked at some of this, the absolute depravity, and that's all it is, pure depravity on the laptop from hell.
And then we're very familiar with the Biden, the diary of the daughter who seemed like she was traumatized.
And so, I'm not a big fan of this family, and particularly the way they put themselves out in the public, and particularly Dr. Jill Biden, who's supposed to be an educator and everything about kids, and she's hugging kids all the time.
Has she ever hugged Navy John?
unidentified
She's not.
steve bannon
Has she ever recognized Navy John?
unidentified
She's not.
steve bannon
Has she ever reached out to yours, her mother, to find out how she's doing and how she can help?
unidentified
No, she's not.
steve bannon
She has never in five years of this girl's life ever reached out to you and had a conversation as a grandmother to the mother of one of her grandchildren?
unidentified
No, she hasn't.
steve bannon
No holidays, nothing?
No contact?
unidentified
Nothing.
steve bannon
So when you see her walk around as Dr. Jill Biden, who's I believe a specialist in childhood education, how does that strike you?
unidentified
It's distasteful.
I talk in the book about how, you know, there's several occasions like, one, the stalkings at the White House.
Like, you're the matriarch of a family.
You're supposed to bring the family together.
And if you're all about, you know, this Biden blood, well, she is Biden blood.
If that be true.
You know, she is.
So why exclude her publicly?
Why exclude a little girl that is blood?
She might not be Jill's blood, but she's Biden blood.
steve bannon
And you're saying, I'm Irish too, given the clannish nature of the Irish, and particularly the way the Bidens talk about that all the time.
unidentified
Right.
steve bannon
They're very upfront about that family.
And this little girl is part of that clan whether they want to admit it or not.
unidentified
Right.
steve bannon
So do you find that hypocritical?
unidentified
Wouldn't you?
steve bannon
People are not interested.
They know my opinions of the Bidens.
And I happen to be Irish Catholic like the Bidens.
The people know my feelings about the Bidens.
They don't know yours.
I mean, this is really the first time.
Do you understand that in this book, particularly some of the details in this book, and quite in the tone of this book, that if you had any possibility of having a relationship with the Biden family, that it ends with this book, that you've crossed the Rubicon?
unidentified
I don't think there'll ever be a relationship with me and them.
But, you know, as far as Navy, like if, like I said, you know, she is there.
She is his child.
She is, you know, Joe's grandchild.
And if that relationship, you know, it would eat at me if I had a child out there that I wasn't in their life.
Right.
And so I would think it would do the same to them.
steve bannon
Joe Biden and Joe Biden haven't raised this individual.
Is he a man or is he a man child?
Hunter Biden.
unidentified
Uh, when I knew him, you know, he was an addict, suffering and was in a really dark time and didn't... Suffering, suffering about what?
From addiction and I think just tragedy, everything he'd gone through, losing Beau and stuff like that.
steve bannon
So I think that, you know, during that time, not showing up for me, I would... As a grown man, losing his brother and tragically to brain cancer.
You're telling me a grown man would be that traumatized in his forties at the time, losing his brother, that that's one of the reasons he went to drugs?
unidentified
I would think so.
I mean, think about the car accident when he was younger and all the other things.
steve bannon
With his mother and his other sibling, right?
unidentified
Right.
steve bannon
Is that something he would bring up?
unidentified
No, not really.
steve bannon
You guys didn't have those conversations?
What types of conversations did you have?
Looking on fonder times?
unidentified
Well, like, I talk about this time that we were on the train, and we talked about his mom for one of the first times, and he was showing me pictures of her, old pictures, and he was, like, proud.
steve bannon
His mother who died?
unidentified
Yes, Nelia.
And, you know, he was talking about her, and we were, you know, just laughing.
We were looking at colonial houses, too, on his laptop, and he loved the colonial style.
steve bannon
Colonial houses that you guys would potentially live in?
unidentified
No, he would rent them.
He was looking to rent.
He was changing from one house to another.
He was, you know, he had just been divorced or just gotten divorced.
steve bannon
Okay, let's take another short commercial break.
London Roberts is with us.
We've got a lot of other breaking news.
We'll get to as much as we can next week.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
steve bannon
You come from, I'm very concerned, I think this audience, I've already seen the chat, I'm very concerned about the safety of Navy Joan and quite frankly your safety.
You come from Arkansas.
unidentified
I do.
steve bannon
If memory serves me correctly, there's a quite powerful political family down there named the Clintons.
unidentified
There is.
steve bannon
And there's been, you know, all types of rumors and things of course, you know, I was the guy that brought to the debate with Hillary Clinton when they tried to make a big deal about the locker room talk on Billy Bush Weekend on Hollywood Access.
We actually brought the women that Bill Clinton, as a predator, he is a sexual predator, that he had either raped, according to them, either raped or sexually assaulted.
We also brought the woman that, as a public defender, Hillary Clinton got off the individual that sexually assaulted her and had quite a powerful impact.
So, the Trump movement and the MAGA movement in this audience, they understand the Clintons play smash mouth.
They played hardball.
And Joe Biden has always said, he's got a phrase, you don't F with the Bidens, right?
He always says that.
Given the experience, or your understanding, you're not a political person, but the understanding of the culture of the Clintons and what it has done in Arkansas, does that make you concerned about the type of smash mouth that the Bidens can play?
unidentified
Um, I mean, I've never heard, don't F with the Bidens, but I'm from Arkansas, so I have always heard, don't F with the Clintons.
steve bannon
Oh, really?
That's pretty well known down there?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
I thought that was pretty well known everywhere, but you know, being from Arkansas, that is a thing that people just, you know, don't.
steve bannon
You don't cross them?
unidentified
No.
steve bannon
If you cross them, what happens?
unidentified
You go missing or something.
Something happens to you.
steve bannon
You believe that?
unidentified
I don't know.
It's what I've always heard.
steve bannon
But it's in the culture, so you're raising the fact that don't mess with these people.
unidentified
Yep.
I actually have a chapter called, Not a Clinton.
Talk about that.
It's talking to somebody and telling them that I'm pregnant, and they're like, well, at least it's not a Clinton.
They're like, the Bidens, you know, they're publicly known for embracing family and, you know, being this family-oriented, loving their family, and I just felt like, okay, like, Maybe I'm not listening to you.
steve bannon
So even though Hunter had issues, personal issues at the time, let's say demons, your belief, given what you were told or what you knew, is that you thought... Did you think that the family would embrace you, given that she was a bite?
Not me, but her.
Yes, a bite.
There was no doubt in your mind that they would embrace the little granddaughter?
unidentified
Yeah, I thought they would.
She's his child, so I thought that she would be embraced, absolutely.
steve bannon
And what efforts did you make in that, and were you rebuffed?
unidentified
Well, the paternity suit, for example, and establishing paternity, that was the first time I was actually able to breathe a sigh of relief and think, okay, he's gonna have to take accountability for this, right?
steve bannon
What forced you to do that?
I mean, that's a pretty bold step in and of itself, have to take a guy to court to prove the paternity.
unidentified
Right.
steve bannon
When he had already told you that he knew it was his.
unidentified
Well, for the longest, I made excuses during my pregnancy.
You know, the reason I was doing it alone was because he was suffering addiction.
And, you know, I kept, I kept chopping up, making excuses for him because it was his addiction.
He was in a dark place.
Then he gets sober.
What's your excuse?
And, um, he had even contacted a couple of my friends and met with them.
And one of his statements, and this was after Navy was born and he was like, you know, how do I even know if it's mine?
And they're like, hun, you, you know, she's yours.
Like, don't do that.
Don't deflect.
Don't take away from him.
He's like, I know, I know, and I'll do the right thing, but he never did.
steve bannon
These were all conversations to you personally?
unidentified
To my best friends.
steve bannon
They would confront him about, you know it's your daughter.
He would actually ask them, well, how do you even know it's mine?
And they would confront him and he would back off right away and say, yeah, I know that.
So there was no doubt to you or your network of friends that he accepted fatherhood here?
unidentified
Right.
steve bannon
But then you still had to take, why did, then did you have to take him to court?
Why didn't he step up as a man and fulfill his at least minimal obligations of financial support, security, maybe even a modicum of some relationship?
unidentified
That's a question I ask every day.
I don't, I don't know.
I can't explain his behavior and why he hasn't done what, you know, he should have.
But all I could do is make him take accountability.
steve bannon
That's what's, I think, very confusing to people.
Particularly in modern America, this type of thing happens, right?
Particularly in the pro-life movement, you want the people to have children, you know, for the people that are anti-abortion.
This type of thing happens.
Why is Hunter Biden and the Bidens, they've made the big deal about it.
It should be just a natural order thing.
You guys are not married, but that type of thing happens in the modern world.
It happens in the modern world.
It happens a lot in the modern world.
What is it about them that have just gone out of the way for this little girl and decided that she's to be ostracized, she's to be othered?
unidentified
I don't know.
I don't know why she's treated as if she doesn't exist when she does.
I don't know.
That's something that you can't make any excuse for.
You can't defend.
Because it doesn't make sense.
I don't know.
steve bannon
When you say you can't defend, you're saying they can't defend it.
unidentified
They can't defend it.
steve bannon
Well, they can defend it as long as the media... The media's had no interest in telling your story.
Am I correct in that?
I mean, until you went to adjudicate this and to force their hand by actually going, having a DNA test, going to court, it was not covered at all.
unidentified
Oh, right, right.
steve bannon
They just wanted this to go away.
Although, in the political circles, this has been known about for years as an open secret.
Why do you think the mainstream media that goes out of their way to attack President Trump, why do you think that they were a Praetorian Guard or protected the Bidens until you forced their hand by actually going to court and showing the receipts as far as the DNA test goes?
unidentified
I don't know.
I don't know much about the media and why they do what they do.
I can't tell you that either.
I'm not sure.
steve bannon
Has any of the mainstream media before the book, has any of the big news organizations come and wanted to hear your side of the story?
unidentified
There's been certain ones, yes, that have emailed or talked to my attorney or wanted a statement or wanted to talk to me, but I have not wanted to talk to him.
Like I said, there's so much that goes on throughout the book that I wasn't able to talk about.
I wouldn't have been able to talk about this a year ago.
Why?
I was just in a rough place, in a headspace, you know, not really knowing what to do.
steve bannon
What do you mean a rough place?
You were kind of traumatized not knowing what to do?
unidentified
Yeah, going through a lot.
steve bannon
You've got the most powerful family in the world that have you in their gun sights, metaphorically?
Metaphorically.
I said, don't pull out the pump action.
Don't reach Annie Oakley.
Don't reach for the high-powered rifle.
We're in neutral territory here.
Okay, I'll tell you what we're gonna do.
We're taking a 90-second break.
We're at the top of the hour.
We have no fresh from the National File.
I think we've got Garrett Ziegler.
Also, Garrett Ziegler from Marco Polo.
They may jump in here.
Mike Davis is around.
As soon as he's got some good news for us, we'll have Mike Davis in.
MTG's going to join us.
I think Caroline Wren.
Big breaking news out of Arizona.
Also, Mike Lindell will join us later.
Big breaking news out of Wisconsin on The Recall.
A lot going on in election integrity today to stop the steal.
May actually talk to MTG about tomorrow night's event down in her state, the peach state of Georgia.
The first presidential debate.
Short commercial break.
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