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June 24, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 3707: Hatred Of The Supreme Court From The Left
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The people have had a belly full of it.
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MAGA Media.
jake tapper
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steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved!
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War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
steve bannon
Monday, 24 June, Year of the Lord 2024.
I have Mark Payaletta with us.
And Mark, I want to put in perspective, because about the historic nature of this week, which we're going to get to in a moment.
Of these massive cases that deal with the administrative state, the way America is governed, high tech, the suppression of tech with our tech feudal overlords, a huge decision on Fisher about all J6, President Trump on immunity, not just President Trump, immunity for presidents, and on and on.
I think there's 18 left, all historic of nature.
And it shows you what this court is prepared to take on.
And think through for the American people.
This is why, and for no short measure, there's two people that come on this show a lot that people should know are absolutely, were absolutely in the trenches and are two of the most important people about why we even have this week.
And that's Mark Paoletta and Mike Davis, who were there at the original fights and help them think this thing through, etc.
You've made the case, and I think it's pretty evident, that this is not really the Roberts Court, and I'm not denigrating Chief Justice Roberts, it is the Thomas Court.
And because it is the Thomas Court, because of his judicial philosophy as an originalist, they hate that, number one.
But they particularly hate the fact that he's not a white, progressive, Harvard-educated liberal.
And they hate him for it.
And so they've gone now to both go after him and Alito to shrink the court, to get people to pull their punches on these massively important decisions that come out, to then later win the White House, the Senate, the House, and then expand the court, impact the court like FDR did when it was only the Supreme Court that kept us from being a quasi-socialist country, even as bad as some people think the New Deal was.
It had been a thousand times worse.
They hadn't stopped it.
In that regard, And they call us the anti-institutionalists, and we're the ones putting people in danger.
They have gone after two individuals, and particularly Associate Justice Thomas, with a vengeance on, not just nitpicking, but I mean, they're trying to put his life in jeopardy.
And I say that just like down in Mar-a-Lago, and I don't care if Merrick Garland likes it, I don't care if Lisa Monaco doesn't like it, I don't care if anybody, I don't care if the Bureau of Prisons likes it or doesn't like it, I don't care.
You're not going to shut me up.
You've put, we had an assassination attempt on Kavanaugh, okay, because they looked the other way, and they instigate this stuff, and now you wait to this, ladies and gentlemen, it's going to be a firestorm by Friday like you've never seen before.
It's going to be, a couple of these decisions go the way that I think an originalist would do, Mark Paoletta.
There's going to be, you think you've seen them on Alito and Thomas?
You ain't seen nothing yet.
Mark Paoletta.
mark paoletta
Steve, you hit it.
The left has been trying to destroy the Supreme Court.
I track it back many years in terms of going after Justice Thomas, but particularly Senator Schumer, the leading Democrat in the Senate, going after Kavanaugh and Gorsuch, threatening them on the steps of the Supreme Court.
In March of 2020, they knew the court was moving away from the kind of the de facto left wing legislative body had been for generations.
You are right to in terms of FDR, again, the Democrats and talking about institutionalists.
No, they like to destroy institutions that don't follow their dictates.
And that's what FDR did or tried to do in in the 30s when he tried to pack the court.
He was successful, right, because some of those justices were broken.
Right?
Justice Roberts was the person who changed his vote to go along with what FDR wanted.
So he didn't have to pack the court.
He did it by bullying the court.
I think that's why the left thinks that this is the way to go.
I'm getting some feedback on my screen.
steve bannon
I tell you what, let's take you down and we'll reboot you because I need to be able to communicate to the audience.
Let's go ahead and reboot, Mark.
This week at the Supreme Court, and this gets to everything with, you know, you talk about
the Kevin Roberts, and for those of you that didn't catch the Saturday show, Dr. Kevin
Roberts went into the lines down on MSNBC on Saturday talking about the deconstruction
of the administrative state and the mandate for change.
And this is just one of many.
We kind of covered it under Project 2025, but CRA is doing something.
Stephen Miller's America First Legal is doing something.
The folks down in Texas at America First Policy Institute are doing things.
There's all these groups that are working together and sometimes independently to come up with policies and vet
people, etc.
That's the central heart of this is to take on the leviathan that was never planned in our Constitution about our
founders and to start taking it apart brick by brick to get back to a a government that one we
can afford to finance and two is doing those things that are that are necessary to
make sure that we have peace and prosperity and that the American people don't have to live under tyranny and have
the full fruits of liberty.
The other aspect of that is the judicial side.
The Chevron deference, which is like the Mac Daddy of everything regarding the law that has been basically radically shifted over 30 or 40 years to basically feed the Leviathan.
is the Chevron deference.
That's coming up this week.
Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, these guys, are absolutely brilliant in their analysis of this for years.
That's one of the reasons they're on the Supreme Court.
So, Mark, pay a letter.
I want to go back to... They've singled out Thomas.
It's very Saul Alinsky.
And they didn't randomly pick... First off, they've hated Thomas from the beginning.
Andrew Breitbart would tell me all the time the reason he started to shift is when he started watching the The confirmation hearings of Justice Thomas.
He came from a progressive, started to become a conservative.
They've hated him from the beginning.
They hate even the idea of him or the concept of him because it goes against their narrative.
But now, and they never envisioned, because they used to mock him all the time about his intellect and everything like that, they never envisioned that 40 years later, his intellect And his understanding as an originalist would actually be the center of gravity of the court, sir.
And that's why they're in full attack mode, sir.
mark paoletta
Steve, you're hitting it dead on.
This is the Thomas Court.
If you go all the way back, right, on all of these big cases, right, this is what's really important for the posse to understand.
From abortion to affirmative action to religious liberties, you're talking about the administrative state and taking that on?
That was Clarence Thomas in 2015-2016 who wrote these seminal cases, opinions.
in dissent and some concurrences, talking about the out of control administrative state
and how it was unconstitutional that Congress had delegated all of this power
over to the bureaucracy for them to do what they want and run wild.
So it was really Thomas.
Gorsuch, a great justice in Kavanaugh, great justice came along after that,
but it was Clarence Thomas who laid the foundation for this relook at the administrative state
and the constitutionality of what's been going on there.
And again, so on all of these issues.
Thomas, Thomas, Thomas, Thomas.
It is the Thomas Court.
All of his dissents from 30 years ago, right?
He's been on the court for 33 years, right?
Going on his 34th year, are all becoming majority opinion.
So he is the leader, and he shows the strength, as I was just talking before.
Owen Roberts, Justice Owen Roberts, broke under the attacks by FDR when he was saying, this court is terrible, we need to pack it.
He broke, so he didn't need to pack the court.
I think that the left thinks, let's do this again.
Let's rerun this again and see if we can get some of them to break.
And so that is, this is the Thomas Court.
They have headed him long before, Steve, he even went on the court.
He joined the Reagan administration in January of 81.
And he was attacked because they knew he was coming.
In December of 1980 was the first attack on Justice Thomas.
And it is because he triggers, he exposes the left's racism.
The left believes that a black person has to have certain thoughts.
unidentified
Right?
mark paoletta
Or you are not black.
It literally is the most racist thing you will find.
And if you step out of line, they will attack you and destroy you.
If you sing from their song sheet, they will praise you to the high heavens.
I urge the posse to watch Created Equal, Clarence Thomas and His Own Words, or read the book of the same name, which I co-edited, or Justice Thomas's memoirs.
He says these exact things in that book.
It is a unvarnished look into views of what Justice Thomas thinks about what the left is doing and has done over these years.
And so, yes, the court and with these attacks right now, with this op-ed, and I really appreciate you having me on to talk about it.
These attacks are to undermine and try to undermine and destroy Justice Thomas because they have lost the battle of the ideas, right?
And again, we can't, you know, sort of credit President Trump enough with those three justices that he appointed that really put Thomas, you know, the Thomas Court into play.
There was a there's a great lawyer, Chuck Cooper, Who wrote a piece in 2015-2016 talking about those Thomas opinions I talked about on the administrative state and how they would never become a majority in his lifetime.
Okay, and that was I think in 2015-2016 he wrote this piece and a few short years later It's going to be the majority.
And so that is the revolutionary effect that Thomas has had intellectually on the court and then put in this sort of turbo charge of President Trump with those three appointments.
And that's why the left is going crazy.
People need to understand this.
They want to destroy the Supreme Court because they don't control it.
All of these ethics attacks are absolutely fraudulent and bogus and full of lies, okay?
I dissect it.
The Wall Street Journal ran my piece today.
Very grateful for it.
There's so much more, right, in terms of the dishonesty and the falsehoods that are in the fix-the-court chart.
But going back to the court, it's an incredibly big week.
Monumental decisions coming down.
steve bannon
Hang on.
Hang on.
I want to get to the week, but I got to give people some history here because the players, uh, this fight and the players around this fight have been doing this for a while.
Let's go back in time.
mark paoletta
Yeah.
steve bannon
And this is for people, this for the Fox crew, the people.
Yeah, go ahead, sir.
mark paoletta
I worked on Justice Thomas's confirmation in 1991.
I was there every minute of that assault on him, and it was absolutely despicable.
And they thought they had him.
They thought he was going to withdraw.
If you look at the news, NBC News was reporting Justice Thomas was going to withdraw before he came back and blew up the United States Senate with the high-tech lynching and calling it out for what it was.
So, yes, I saw that firsthand what they did to this good man, right?
unidentified
How he withstood it, right?
mark paoletta
Just went for his soul.
And that's what they're willing to do to people who don't obey them.
And that is the truth.
steve bannon
Thomas, and I say, like with Paul Ryan.
Character is about that defining moment.
In that moment, you have to make the decision.
That's when you see true character.
Thomas had every incentive to just withdraw and to fade into history, fade over time.
He didn't.
He came back and stood his ground and testified for himself.
He testified for himself in one of the most dramatic moments in American history, right?
And so their smears didn't work.
In 16, remember, who was the Clinton nominee?
It was Merrick Garland.
Merrick Garland would have been a lifetime appointment, that little worm in the Justice Department, that crook, that criminal, that treasonous criminal, would have been a lifetime appointment on the Supreme Court.
It was Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, right, and MAGA, that stopped that.
If Hillary Clinton had lost, and this is for all the Trump haters, the country was done.
They had the Senate, they had the House, they would have had the Supreme Court with Merrick Garland As a permanent appointment to the Supreme Court.
That was stopped.
Now, let me remind you one other thing.
I'm gonna hold you through the break, Mark.
Hang on.
In the moment, who else?
And Kavanaugh, when they made up all this stuff on Kavanaugh, and they were trying to
destroy him, at that moment, when the pressure was on Trump and Kavanaugh, on Trump and Kavanaugh
to pull his nomination, that's character.
Kavanaugh said, no, I'm not going to, and he went, like Thomas went, and defended himself.
And that's why, and President Trump had his back.
You remember, Pele, the pressure to have Kavanaugh stop, and then the last thing I will say,
until we go to break.
If you remember the day he was, I was actually in Europe at the time, working on the 2019
European parliamentary elections for the populace in the right wing.
When I saw that video of when he was not in the Senate, it looked like the French Revolution.
They sprinted across the plaza of the Capitol.
They went to those doors in the Supreme Court and they were banging on those doors like the French Revolution.
If they'd gotten in, they would have destroyed and torn apart every person in there.
They're demons.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
steve bannon
So Mark Paglietta, give us some inside baseball on both Thomas and particularly Kavanaugh
Because, folks, I have to understand, this is a war.
The progressive left, and they think of actually the court and the legal system to them.
They must control it.
You see on these disbarments and all that with Eastman and Rudy and all of it.
This is sacred to them.
This is more so than the legislature, even the executive branch.
The federal judiciary running the courts, you see what they can do with like Mershon in New York with Trump.
They understand that their belief is the potential for total control comes through the legal system in the courts.
And that's why they freak out so much, particularly on federal judges in the Supreme Court, sir.
mark paoletta
Yes, Steve.
unidentified
100%.
mark paoletta
The other piece of it too, right, is that the bureaucracy and controlling the bureaucracy.
So that's how they get their pincer movement of implementing their policies.
Left-wing courts, you know, from the district court right up to the Supreme Court.
And that's what's changed.
There's a lot of bad decisions still come down, but they get up to the Supreme Court and they are, you know, There are much more constitutional originalist decisions,
which puts an end to a lot of the craziness that the left has been doing over the years.
So that's why it is a war.
That's why the left wants to win at all costs, right?
Even in the most dishonest ways by attacking the justices, making up these recusal standards to shrink the court,
as I've talked about, going back to Justice Alito's wife flying a flag
and somehow, I mean, it's so absurd, but that's what we're talking about
in terms of trying to get these guys to recuse.
His wife is flying an American flag and he has to recuse himself.
Just nutso stuff, but this is where we are.
But those are the stakes at play.
With Justice Thomas, as I said, I was there.
When he went back to testify, he said to, I think it was Justice, to Senator Hatch,
I'm not here to get on the Supreme Court.
I'm here to clear my name.
I don't care about serving on the Supreme Court.
And so when he lost, when he was confirmed and he was asked how long he was going to serve, he said, they took away my first 43 years by smearing me.
That's how old he was when he was when he was confirmed to the Supreme Court.
And I'm going to serve 43 more years.
I'm going to serve 43 years on the Supreme Court.
So I think we're in, as I said, 33, 34 years.
And so he's got he's got 10 more years to go to hit that mark.
Justice Kavanaugh, again, same thing.
You know, they smear a good man.
A good, good, good man.
And then when he comes back to testify and he's angry, as he should be, they criticize his temperament.
I mean, this is the game they play of trying at every single despicable, dishonest argument to try and stop justices from being confirmed.
Last thing I do think You know, the conservatives and Republicans should make this, the Supreme Court, an election issue and go on offense.
In 2016, that's exactly what happened, right?
President Bush released a list and the late breakers, I do believe that not going forward with Merrick Garland resulted in Donald Trump in a big way being elected because the late breakers went for the Supreme Court and it was a conservative Supreme Court that they wanted.
steve bannon
And this is why Fox, by the way, it was President Trump put the list out, and then we put another list after I got on it, put another list that Gorsuch was actually on later.
It definitely, and the late breakers, a lot of people, particularly more standard stock Republicans that were done about Trump, they said, look at this list, and they went and, hey, it's worked out.
Because now, and let's talk about this week.
Now you're seeing the fruits of that.
This is a historic week.
You want to walk through a couple of these cases and how important they are?
unidentified
Sure.
mark paoletta
A presidential immunity, one of the biggest, most historic.
Of course, the president has has immunity for his official acts.
It's never been questioned before.
They haven't sued presidents.
They haven't tried to prosecute former presidents in the past.
So that one, I don't even I listen to the argument.
You know, I think the court will send it back down and then say what's official, what's not.
But again, the left, just like the 14th, remember the 14th Amendment case, right, to disqualify President Trump from the ballot was such an insane argument, right?
But the left had built it up that it was the, you know, slam dunk decision that it would be able to disqualify him.
And it was a nine zero decision.
So I think you're gonna see this court, you know, on a lot of them,
hopefully there'll be more than just six threes or five fours, but larger majorities.
The January 6th, you know, using this statute, which was an Enron related,
I actually did the Enron investigations when I was up in Congress,
but the legislation that came out of that was about disrupting, obstructing official proceedings
by essentially destroying documents was what the statute was enacted to do.
They're using a statute, and there's been other cases that Jack Smith has done where, in the past, where his theory has been overruled by the Supreme Court by 9-0, the McDonald prosecution several years ago, the former governor of Virginia.
So, using a statute to prosecute all of these people from January 6th, that has no business being used, in my opinion.
I think the court, again, will look at that statute and say, this is not what it was for.
And set aside all of those convictions, or pleas.
The Chevron deference, you know, gigantic.
We've been talking about that a little bit.
This is something where what's grown over the years, Steve, is that Congress doesn't like to make the hard choices.
So they pass these broad statutes, right?
And then tell the administrative agency, the EPA, the HHS, whatever it is, you write the reg and then enforce it.
And of course, it's going to be something that's much broader or going much further than the statute.
And this Chevron deference basically says if we're gonna rely on the agency's interpretation of it,
and we're gonna be subordinate to that, the Supreme Court.
The Supreme Court is the body that determines what the law says.
So they've inverted over the years to allow the agency to determine what the law is.
And we saw Neil Gorsuch with this great opinion, I think in 2015 or so, right before he was nominated,
where he showed that an agency had actually switched its interpretation of the statute
after a court had ruled that it was wrong.
They changed the definition of the regulation to do what they were not allowed to do.
And it just showed the inanity of Turning all this over to the administrative state.
So I do think the court will significantly cut back, if not overrule completely.
Hopefully they will.
But again, with these majorities, you know, I think they'll strike that down, really carve back Chevron deference.
And then the government using their power to force social media platforms or companies to take things down.
And again, I think that's a violation of the First Amendment.
And hopefully we're going to see the court rule in that regard, too.
So huge cases that are coming down this week.
That's why these attacks are going to happen, continue this week, continue on Justice Thomas.
I hope they finish up this week.
I think it was in 2020, they fell into July, early July, but hopefully this Friday.
The court has announced decisions for Wednesday of this week.
If they don't finish up on Wednesday, then they'll announce another day, either Thursday, Friday, or maybe into next week.
steve bannon
A historic week at the Supreme Court, and I believe if Fisher gets overturned, if Chevron deference gets overturned, and if they even have limited immunity for President Trump, you will see a firestorm from the left-wing media like you've never seen before, and I gotta tell you, I hope I hope now that the security, not just the court marshals and the federal marshals, but real security for these justices, because these people are out of control.
You saw that today, Kavanaugh.
I was in Europe at the time, I think it was in Italy, working on the 2019 European parliamentary elections.
I saw what happened.
They're running from the Senate and across that plaza, the beautiful plaza of the Capitol, to the Supreme Court of those massive historic doors and banging on it.
It was like revolutionary France.
If they had gotten inside, they would have been pulling people out.
And if they had a guillotine, they'd be using the guillotine.
I've never seen so much out of control.
And that shows you how dangerous these people are, particularly when it comes to the topics of the Supreme Court.
You know, God bless Justice Kavanaugh, and Thomas, and Alito, and Gorsuch, these guys.
I just hope that this time, you know, because they played games.
As you know, Garland and these guys played games last time.
They played word games, and you had an assassination attempt on Kavanaugh, and they shouldn't be terrorizing their families.
Hell, they terrorize Ted Cruz's family every Saturday morning here, and nobody does anything about it at his home.
Mark Palletta, how they get the books, how they get all your writings about Justice Thomas and where they go at CRA, the website, to find out everything about what a historic week it is at the Supreme Court.
mark paoletta
Sure.
Thanks.
Thanks, Steve.
At Mark Palletta is my my ex handle and I put up all my pieces.
Please go to it.
Get educated.
Take some of those things and go to what Senator Whitehouse go to the left of Raskin, as you mentioned, and put those pieces below, you know, their their their tweets on on attacking the court just to get it in their channels.
Go on offense.
My website is MarkPayaletta.com.
I have my articles up there.
I have some testimony up there.
Center for Renewing America is doing a great job.
We're going to be coming out.
Another topic we might want to talk about, Steve, is the Empowerment Control Act and why that's unconstitutional.
We'll have a piece on that later this week.
Yeah.
But it's really a big week for the court, but it's important to defend the court.
It's important to show the court, right, that people believe in it and trust in it and support it.
Because when the left goes on these, you know, attacks that are overwhelming, it sometimes is a lonely place for these justices to be being attacked time in and time out without anyone defending them.
steve bannon
And that's why you got warriors like Mike Davis on the Kavanaugh situation.
Pay a letter and Mike Davis, service to the country, service to the Republic.
And I'm telling you, these two guys are tough as boot leather.
Pay a letter.
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate you.
mark paoletta
Thanks, Steve.
steve bannon
Mike Davis, another patriot.
Get that guy in your trench.
Fixed bayonets, baby.
No surrender.
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We'll get more capital markets.
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Eric Prince, by the way, is going to be in studio tomorrow.
Got another special guest on the 6 o'clock show tomorrow.
Dave Bossi, thanks for joining us this afternoon.
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Lay out the whole thing so you're up to speed.
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Came to power.
Blair opened the door to mass unskilled labor in a way we never even approached anything like in the entirety of our history.
And all the conservatives have done, despite Boris's promises, is to actually increase it.
Net migration, which ran from the late 1940s until nearly the millennium at 30,000 to 40,000 a year, is now running at nearly 750,000 a year.
And yes, this should be the main topic of conversation, because the impact of that population increase is being seen on our infrastructure.
It's being seen with the traffic on our roads.
It's pretty obvious, isn't it?
But it's also giving a younger generation an almost impossible situation.
Rents have risen by 20-30% since 2021.
It's simple demand, supply.
And so our young people who go to work find themselves spending over half their income simply on rent.
And they rent or live with their parents because houses are simply unaffordable for virtually everybody.
Getting on the housing ladder, unless you've got wealthy parents, is now an impossible dream.
And think about this.
Just because of the levels of net legal migration, we have to build a new home every two minutes in this country.
Just think of the number of new builds all over Kent.
They're springing up everywhere, aren't they?
And yet they're not even meeting demand for net migration, let alone the shortages that exist.
steve bannon
And the sheer absurdity... If he's noticed some similarities, that could have been taken from the Philadelphia speech on Friday night of President Trump, or Saturday night, excuse me, from Philadelphia, near Temple University.
Or at the Temple University.
Almost word for word, exactly the same issues.
Raheem Kassam, Ben Burquam, join us.
First off, guys, tell us exactly where you are.
It's quite historic where you are, and why is Nigel Farage down in Kent?
raheem kassam
Yes, Steve, thank you.
We are standing in Dover, right at the base of the White Cliffs of Dover, an incredibly, obviously, iconic setting over history and historic setting.
I was telling Ben before, as we were setting up here, that, you know, these views of this part of England are some of the last views that many saw before they went off to Europe and fought for their countries, you know, almost a century plus ago.
You know what's happening here now you heard from Nigel there and we stand right in front of an area in which there are dozens and dozens of boats coming over every single week and hundreds and hundreds of illegal migrants being brought up on shore here every single week.
The numbers are really quite staggering when you consider Britain's population especially when you consider Kent's population and you'll see behind us the port of Dover And a small white building where they're actually processing a lot of the illegal migrants as they come in here.
So, Steve, this has been an historic location for centuries.
It remains a historic location, perhaps all the more for the wrong reasons this time.
ben bergquam
Yeah, and Steve, one other point to mention.
steve bannon
Hang on a second, Ben.
Hang on.
ben bergquam
Go ahead, Steve.
steve bannon
Ben, hang on a second.
Rahim, isn't it odd that almost Line by line, what Nigel's saying about younger generations, the younger generations flocking to Trump, that these arguments that he's making in the run-up to the parliamentary election are the exact same arguments you're hearing from President Trump, sir?
raheem kassam
They're the exact same arguments that you're hearing in Philadelphia, the same arguments you're hearing in Kent in England, and they'll be the same arguments that you'll be hearing in Paris at the moment as well, because, as you know, the parliamentary, the French parliamentary elections were called just after those European parliamentary elections.
So the whole continent, the whole continent, and as I stand here and talk to you, by the way, I am looking directly across the English Channel at France.
The entire continent now is having the same conversation, is how can this possibly go on?
How many thousands upon thousands upon thousands of migrants, both legal and illegal by the way, can these nations continue to subsume?
And by the way, when we were out today at that rally in Kent, that was again the main topic of conversation.
That was what everybody wanted to know, is how could this possibly keep going on?
Rishi Sunak promised to end the small boats, the Prime Minister promised to bring it to zero, it remains at record figures.
steve bannon
Before I go to Ben Berkwam, today's front page of the Financial Times of London is how voters in France are now coming to Le Pen on the economics, right-wing, just like President Trump.
This is shocking.
The party of Davos, Brussels, the city of London.
Ben Berkwam, you've gone all over the world going back to the source of this.
You've been, what, in Spain?
You've been at the Darien Gap all throughout Mexico, Central America.
Your thoughts as you're seeing this play out in Europe?
ben bergquam
Well, it is.
It's the same enemy.
We talk about this all the time.
It's the same United Nations, these globalist NGOs that are operating all over the world.
And what's interesting here, though, in England in particular, as Rahim was talking about, Nigel was talking about, the impacts not just of illegal immigration, because obviously the barrier, the English Channel is a little more significant barrier than the Rio Grande River.
But they're still having hundreds, they're actually thousands coming across.
Just a couple days ago there were almost 900 came across in one day.
But the bigger problem in England is the legal migration that they have coming, basically coming in to replace the natural-born citizens, the English citizens taking the jobs and causing all of the prices to skyrocket.
What's interesting here is it's all of the, what we call rhinos in America,
it's the so-called conservatives, the Tories that are inviting this.
They continue to say that they're gonna stop it and they're doing the exact opposite.
It's the exact same reason what we saw in America when we had rhinos continue to lie to us,
to pee on our leg and tell us it was raining, that you needed somebody like Trump to come along and say,
I'm actually gonna do what I say I'm gonna do.
And that's really where Nigel is.
He's that figure for the English people.
And here, what you see here, these boats that continue to come across every single day
is really more of an example, a illustration of what's happening in Europe as a whole,
that it's basically a balloon that is about to pop.
The pressure from this illegal immigration that's coming in from North Africa and the Middle East
is destroying these countries.
We were in France, we were in Sweden, we were in the Netherlands, we were all over Europe,
it's just in Romania.
And it's the same thing everywhere in Europe.
And every single one of these countries is being destroyed.
What's a little different here is the populist nationalist movement,
really that's Nigel and the Reform Party.
And so we're gonna see that play out over the next five years as the Labor Party.
Unfortunately, it looks to take over because the conservatives, the Tories, have been so pathetic.
But it is.
It's all the same enemy, and it's the same impact on the small guy, the common man.
It's the same people who are getting screwed in England that are getting screwed in America.
steve bannon
Rahim, what's striking to me now, particularly when we look at the crosstabs of the polls, is the anger of the voter for who was in charge.
In the Tories, it's like they hate him for having lied to them.
The same in France.
That's what Macron now is polling under 20%, I think, like at 19%.
The voters are saying, you guys were in charge, Macron in France, the Tories in England, you lied to us, you didn't do anything about this, you tapped us along, you had a lot of talk, but at the poll, and this is, you're going to turn over to Labor at least for a while, but the vitriol of the voters against those in charge should be a lesson to people, particularly here in the United States of America, sir.
raheem kassam
You know what, Steve, it's really funny because I remember fighting this same sort of campaign on the similar themes back in 2015 when net migration into the United Kingdom was about 300,000 every year.
We're now looking at about 700,000, 750,000 every year.
But when you talk to people, especially given the unseasonably warm weather that we're having in England at the moment, when you talk to people, actually what you feel is a sense of despondence.
What you feel is a sense of, especially the working class vote, especially that old Labour vote, who kind of can't believe that the party of their fathers and their grandfathers and their great grandfathers have now become this globalist, pro-mass migration, pro-transgender, pro-DI type of party, and they're sort of throwing their hands up and saying, well won't somebody save us from this nonsense?
For a lot of those people, you know, of course that saviour is, or he would like to be, Nigel Farage.
But I am also finding, as we go around, a lot of those people are just sick of it.
They don't want to vote, they don't want to give the system the credibility and the credence, and of course Nigel has to make that pitch to say to people, look, no, you have an alternative at this point.
We have put the apparatus and the party together and you can do this and you can change your country if you turn out to vote on July the 4th.
Turn out As it will be in the United States, will be everything about 2024.
And so, you know, as we continue to go around England, to talk to people, to follow Farage on the campaign trail, you know, we will bring you those updates and a reality check, really, because that's what happened in 2016, remember?
I mean, the reality check of Brexit, not just, of course, the ramifications it had over in the United States, but all across the continent and all across the world.
When you look at what came after that, when you look at what happened with Narendra Modi
and Jair Bolsonaro and now what's happening in Argentina with Malay too, those are all
knock-on effects.
Can it happen again on July 4th in the United Kingdom?
Can it then filter over through on November 5th in the US?
steve bannon
Tell us what your travels are.
Are you guys going to go to France?
Because we've got France on the 27th, the first round, then the UK on the 4th of July, then back for the second round in France, I think, on the 7th of July.
And this French thing, I keep telling people, I think is monumental.
What are your travels over the next week or so?
ben bergquam
Yeah, we're going to be heading into France.
We're debating on the timing and the scheduling on that.
We have a couple things we're working on here.
But I will tell you real quick, Steve, too, everyone we've been interviewing, the same thing we see all over America, the number one issue when you ask them, what's the problem?
It's all illegal immigration.
It's all mass migration.
The same thing we're hearing.
So we're going to be talking to the folks here.
We're going to be talking to the folks in France.
And everywhere we go, we can expose what's actually happening.
We'll be doing that.
raheem kassam
Yeah, Ben's working on his French.
I'm leaving him down here on the coast so that he can brush up, speak to some of the illegals.
steve bannon
National Pulse.
Where do we go?
How do we follow this?
This is monumental.
It's every bit as important as when you were with Nigel on Brexit back in 16 and running Breitbart London.
So where do we go?
Where do we go, Rahim?
raheem kassam
Yeah, and I'm delighted to announce that actually we've just hired another one of my original team from Breitbart London over to TheNationalPulse.com so people can head over there, support our work.
TheNationalPulse.com forward slash war room.
And we're covering all of this at a kind of minutiae basis, right?
There's this big argument going on about Russian collusion over this weekend.
Fantastic.
being made against Nigel Farage. The National Pulse, by the way, is the only
media outlet at some of these events because they're so small and they're so
closed-door and they're just for the public. But of course Nigel Farage has
politely granted us at Real America's Voice, at War Room, and at the National
Pulse access to these events so we can bring you the minute-by-minute updates.
steve bannon
Fantastic. Ben, where do people go for all your content, brother?
ben bergquam
FrontlineAmerica.com is my website.
Obviously, americasvoice.news.
Stay here.
We're going to be on all the shows throughout the days leading up.
And then all social media, getter, at Ben Burquam.
And then our new substack, Frontline America on substack as well.
steve bannon
See you tomorrow, gentlemen.
From the White Cliffs of Dover, Raheem Kassam and Ben Burquam.
Thank you, guys.
We're actually going to be in Wisconsin tonight at the 6 o'clock show with Judge Gabelman about this recall.
But Ben Harnwell is going to, I couldn't get to Ben this morning, we're going to talk about a lot about France.
Also about Ukraine and this firestorm over Niger-Farage.
Essentially taking the MAGA line.
about the Ukraine war and of course the establishment and that includes MI5 and MI6 went after him in the worst possible way this over this weekend.
So we'll break all of that down at the six o'clock hour.
A bunch of stuff in the punch bowl this morning about the budget process and about the appropriation process.
I will get to that hopefully this afternoon or break it down tomorrow.
Very detailed about the appropriations process.
What does it show?
I'm not so sure we're going to get the budget cuts and the top-line cuts that we actually need.
What does that mean?
Once again, the pressure on the dollar is going to be Massive.
The purchasing price of the dollar is down, what, 17 to 20 percent under Biden.
The spread on gold has continued to increase.
We give you the macro, but you need to talk to the experts.
You need to go to Birchgold and talk to Philip Patrick and the team.
They're the experts.
We're not.
Birchgold.com slash Bannon.
You get the end of the dollar empire.
All of our content, just like at the War Room there, is all free.
You can download it, but talk to Philip Patrick and the team and do it.
leigh wambsganss
It's the pro-love movement.
It's more about just making laws.
The pro-love movement is providing health care, housing, job training, child care.
It's being the hands and feet of Jesus to women in crisis pregnancies and taking care of those women and their unborn children and their babies.
That's what being pro-love is all about.
At Patriot Mobile, we're so committed to protecting life that we made it one of our four pillars of giving.
And we're not just a regular company.
We exist to give.
We just celebrated our 10-year anniversary.
And in those 10 years, we have given over $1.4 million to pro-life organizations.
steve bannon
Okay, Lee Wamskan.
Lee, was that—because there were many things this weekend that you and Glenn Sturring, the team, were back for, I think at the Lincoln Memorial, the Faith and Freedom over at the Hilton.
Where was that speech given?
leigh wambsganss
That speech was given in front of the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, D.C.
on Saturday morning.
It was the National Celebrate Life weekend celebration, which is the two-year anniversary of the Dobbs decision that overturned Roe.
steve bannon
So tell me about the weekend.
This was a show of force, and why is this such a big deal to Patriot Mobile?
leigh wambsganss
Well, the big deal to Patriot Mobile on celebrating this weekend and providing these amazing pro-life warriors the resources they need is we're so serious about the pro-life, as I said in the speech, that we made it one of our four pillars of giving.
And the pro-life community is coming together, learning messaging, learning about resources available.
We wanted to fund these organizations.
Christian Hawkins with Students for Life of America is sort of the spearhead of this anniversary.
And this year was probably three times what we had last year.
So it was really a huge successful event.
The Patriot Mobile team had two conferences in Washington, D.C., so we slept very little this weekend.
So in addition to sponsoring the rally and the National Celebrate Life weekend, we sponsored the Faith and Freedom Coalition conference, and that was a group where an amazing group of Patriots came together.
One of the best speeches I've ever heard.
Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin spoke and just had us on our feet.
President Trump did show up, and of course, as always, was amazing.
They're doing some wonderful things with that organization.
steve bannon
Before I let you go, there's a lot of questions whether the life community is going to show up in force like they always have, particularly in 2016, to support President Trump.
We just had an hour where we talked about the Supreme Court justices and how important these justices are to continue to control the court.
Your thoughts about coming out this weekend?
Where's the life movement?
Is it 120% in back of President Trump?
leigh wambsganss
You know, that's what it appears to be.
I certainly can't predict it, but I can tell you this.
Not one person should sit home on the couch.
And as you know, our organization has a state political action committee in Texas.
We're working on motivating all of those voters.
I do think the pro-life community is going to show up.
But as Ralph Reed said this weekend, we have got to make sure that we show up to vote and we take every one of our friends with us.
If you have to drive and pick them up and drive them to the polls, everything's at risk from school boards, you know, states on up.
You know, Texas is a huge target.
And Patriot Mobile is really committed to helping C4s educate voters about the issue.
And also, we fund a political action committee in Texas to try to save Texas.
Texas is hugely important.
Without those 40 electoral votes, we'll never have another Republican president.
So it's all hands on deck, needed like no time before.
steve bannon
A Christian company with Christian values.
Stop giving your money to people that hate you and your values.
That's why you've got to focus on Patriot Mobile and the services unparalleled.
Lee, where do people go to get all the content coming out of the political action side of Patriot Mobile?
leigh wambsganss
So, on the political action side, it's patriotmobileaction.com.
On the company side, which is the companies who sponsored these events this weekend, that's patriotmobile.com.
And we're the same.
We're on all the same towers, 4G, 5G.
You can bring your own phone, port your same phone number over.
The difference is when you use Patriot Mobile, you can know and rest assured that your money is not going to organizations and corporate entities that fight against your freedoms.
steve bannon
Amazing.
Amazing weekend for you guys.
You're at the tip of the spear.
Glenn Story says, as good as it gets.
And you guys are fighters, not just in Texas, but inspiring everybody.
Lee, thank you so much for joining us, ma'am.
leigh wambsganss
Thank you, Steve.
God bless you.
steve bannon
Support people that support your values.
When the products and services are equal or better, and this one's better.
You can't just go to pay for your mobile and check it out.
Mike Lindell.
I've got Gabelman tonight, so Gabelman's going to come on tonight and explain to me the entire Robin Voss situation.
Because people have to understand, these blockers like Raffensperger and Voss, they will pull... You think Democrats are bad?
The Republicans' establishment are worse.
You see this happening down in the Commonwealth of Virginia right now in Lynchburg City.
When the Republican establishment gets their hands on things, they're not good.
But people want to know, because I haven't been here on since Saturday, talk to us about deals.
People want to know about my pill of deals.
mike lindell
Yeah, I'll give you the deal.
And by the way, I've got a report on the WEC.
They are fighting over whether to report this next Thursday or not.
I just got an email on that.
You guys, what we're doing is a special deal.
This is a one-day special for the War Room Posse.
We have an overstock.
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People don't realize we have clothing.
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We're having, this is exclusive to the War Room.
Just for today, War Room Warehouse close out and overstock sale.
You're going to save up to 80%.
Go to the website, go down to the War Room Square and you'll see Steve there.
Click on that and you're going to see, this will be the first square.
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Click on that you'll see it opens up this amazing sale just for the War Room Posse.
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And then we have the today's special with the bed sheets.
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We added Two packs to that for $25, but check out this one day sale, the overstock sale.
You guys still get my free movies too.
You're the only ones getting those free movies, all of them for even ordering one item.
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Take, take advantage of it today, everybody.
steve bannon
Mike Lindell, I can say this, the movies don't suck.
They're actually pretty good.
And you're not too shabby.
If this pillow thing doesn't work out, I think we've got... If we don't save the country through stopping the election fraud, and the pillow thing doesn't work out, I think you actually may have a career.
I'm serious.
mike lindell
I'm with you, Steve.
Go make movies.
I'm with you.
steve bannon
Mike Lindell, we'll see you this afternoon.
Charlie Kirk is next.
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